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7726291 No.7726291 [Reply] [Original]

Redpill me on this game.
Is it worth buying/playing?

>> No.7726298

>>7726291
When I played it, it was great, until I got bored with it. Never finished it.
Still have fond memories, but it was the JRPG equivalent of an Elder Scrolls game for me.
A worthwhile purchase at the $40 I spent.

>> No.7726310

>>7726291
Forced myself to play it three times. Dropped it at the boat/harbour town.
If you like slow jrpgs with cute characters you might like it. I was growing out of the genre and it just couldn't hold my attention at all.

I'd 'recommend emulating it or the 3Ds port so that you have ability to fast forward a lot.

>> No.7726316

>>7726291
Get the 3DS version with orchestral music mod

>> No.7726410

>>7726316
Ugly port with shitty draw distance.

>> No.7726414

>>7726410
And better gameplay with more content including two party members and a super hard post-game boss rush

>> No.7726430

>>7726414
>Better gameplay
No. The game was built on random encounters. Being able to see and avoid monsters neuters the difficulty.
>More content
Shit that makes little sense like being able to marry Jessica despite her having shown no romantic interest in Hero, shitty flashbacks that try to humanize Dhoulmagus, two new characters that have no reason to join the party and break the game’s difficulty even further, and some gay DLC costumes. The only decent addition is the boss rush.

>> No.7726437

>>7726430
Another thing that pisses me off in the 3DS port is how the monsters in the over world have the same basic AI pattern. Walk around a bit, do some shitty idle animation for a few seconds, then resume walking around aimlessly. Even that DQ Monsters games on DS had more interesting monster AI on the overworld. The 3DS version is a lazy excuse for a port that had little to no effort put in it, like most modern SE ports.

>> No.7726452

>>7726437
at least they make the empty overworld seem less empty.

>> No.7726651

>>7726298
Its around 20$ now on ebay

>> No.7726657

It's a great JRPG. It's Dragon Quest so it's not reinventing the wheel or anything, but the characters are all great. Love their banter.

>> No.7726776

>>7726657
How come is it so universally acclaimed if it's just a regular rpg?
Honest question, I know nothing about the game except that dragon quests from what I've gathered remained the same.

>> No.7726784

>>7726776
Dragon Quest is THE JRPG. It solidified what the genre is back in the Famicom days.
It has seniority power plus every game is just incredibly solid. When you play a DQ game you pretty much know what to expect.

>> No.7726787

>>7726776

Nice combat, nice weapons and character building, nice quests and a lot of hidden stuff, every exp and gold counts, a wonderful overworld and the fantastic ost.

>> No.7726791

>>7726784
>It solidified what the genre is
It's interesting that unlike most games of that genre, DQ is one of the few JRPG were status ailment can be used against bosses.

>> No.7726819

My only complaint is that getting the ship to cross the desert feels like one huge series of major plot fetch quests, but other than that, just like all DQ games it's one huge comfy feel good adventure. Make sure you recruit strong monsters (just avoid the hackasaurus north of the initial town because he'll destroy your shit) and do the Monster Arena stuff, not only is it fun as fuck but a good team is extremely useful once you're able to use them in regular battles..

>> No.7726832

I easily put over 100 hours into this game. It was the best RPG on the PS double.

>> No.7726836

>>7726291
You have to be a weeb to enjoy the games. Not even toriyama fans, who buy almost everything from him, like these games

>> No.7726837

>>7726787
Oh nice. How does it run on PS2, any framerate issues?

>> No.7726840

>not a single bad main game
Yep, I'm thinking Dragon Quest is the true JRPGonnoiseur's franchise.

>> No.7726943

>>7726430
>The game was built on random encounters. Being able to see and avoid monsters neuters the difficulty.
Oh yeah non-stop fighting fodder every 3 steps when trying to explore was such a fantastic experience.
If you need this much grinding from pointless fights then it's not a well-designed game to begin with.

>> No.7727106

>>7726943
Just use holy water or that one spell, dipshit.

>> No.7727138

>>7726291
>Dragon Quest
>worth playing
No

>> No.7727190

>>7727106
>random encounters are the core of the game
>j-just skip them
Make up your mind eskimo

>> No.7727227
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7727227

>>7726840
>what is the empty shell that is DQ1

>> No.7727240

I think it's probably the best. It's very short compared to VI and VII though.

>> No.7727269

>>7726291
I remember /v/ cca 2007 or 8 when this was widely considered to be one of the hardest games alongside SMT Nocturne. Funny.

>> No.7727279

>>7727269
>tfw never beat the Dragovian Trials without the level 65 anti-dragon move

>> No.7727429

>>7726837

Can't remember any, probably yes but not much disturbing

>> No.7727443

>>7726840
>DQ10

>> No.7727510
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7727510

>>7727443
How would you know? You will never play it.

>> No.7727512

>>7727227
Stop trying to be an edgy asshole. There's more payoff in experiencing DQIII after the first two.

>> No.7727526

>>7727512
No there isn't, stop trying to force the "this series that can be played in any order is actually better if you start with the worst games" meme

>> No.7727552

>>7726298
>When I played it, it was great, until I got bored with it. Never finished it.
This. Is fun until you get tired with it.

>> No.7727564

>>7727526
The first three games are a trilogy, dumbass. IV, V and VI too but they only share very loosely connected elements.

>> No.7727589

>>7727564
Both trilogies are loose trilogies, you're exaggerating how connected they are. You can play both trilogies in any order, they're only connected by theme and geography. You don't need to suffer through I and II to know who Roto is, he's brought up the entire game; the same way you don't need to play IV first in order to understand Zenithia in V or VI. Yeah sure, it's cooler to see Alefgard if you've already walked through it, but fuck that, I'm never going to encourage somebody to waste time playing a game they don't like (I and II are the games I most often see people give up on) just so they can appreciate a 1000x better game slightly more.

>> No.7727594 [DELETED] 

>>7727510
i will never play a single dragon quest game because i am not some rice dick pining for the days when my parents dumped me in front of a famicom in lieu of parenting so they could go to their soul crushing jobs

>> No.7727639 [DELETED] 

>>7727594
You're on 4channel, your life clearly took a turn worse than of any rice dicked jap.

>> No.7727780

>>7726819
Be sure to go back to get Hackzilla later. He's one of the best momster team members in the game.
My best team for absolutely shitting out damage was Hackzilla, and Attack Bots mk II and mk III. (I avoided putting all 3 bots together, because their combined form had less total hp, and would inflict far less damage per round)

>> No.7727794

>>7727279
Same. I was holding up until the Darksteel Dragon. Fuck that guy so hard.
In the final dragon boss rush, i inflicted my biggest hit ever in that game to.the 2nd dragon: full kabuff +max tension+ dragovian sword + dragon slash = 4000 damage. Blew my mind.

>> No.7727829

>>7726430
Random battles are shit, on-field enemies are superior. SaGa did it and nobody calls that easy.

>> No.7727896

>>7726791
>Few JRPGs
It's actually not that unusual for bosses to have ailment vulnerability. Etrian Odyssey in particular has bosses be vulnerable to most ailments but they can develop a stacking resistance bonus to it. I can also attest to many bosses from FF, Tales, and Golden Sun being vulnerable.

Funnily, the black mage Ominas Crowe in Bravely Default is immune to silence, even though you find a mage masher right before facing him.

>> No.7727905

I remember certain bosses in DQ VI would run away from you if you used that one item that would cast confusion. It seemed to have a low chance of happening so when it first happened I was shocked.

>> No.7729363

>>7726291
Good game but the translation is god-awful. Play it in Japanese or not at all.

>> No.7729831

DQ8 or Nocturne. Which one is kino of the ps2?

>> No.7729834

>>7727512
Like what? A few references?

>> No.7730001

Emulating this gem on PS4, german version, works like a charm. Here and there the lighting is fucked, but doesnt matter much to me.
anyone bitching about MUH RANDUM ENCUNTETS doesn't belong in a DQ thread, the roaming monsters on 3ds ruined it, so much unfun avoiding everything but visible metal slimes.

>> No.7730014

>>7727829
>Durr, this game made with on-field enemies in mind isn’t considered easy—adding them to a game that wasn’t surely won’t ruin the balancing!
While we’re at it, not being able to control your teammates is dumb. That’s why P3P is the definitive version of Persona 3, despite the fact the game was literally balanced around you not being able to control your party members.

>> No.7730016

>>7726943
I don’t think you understand or should be playing Dragon Quest. The charm is clearly lost on you.

>> No.7730135

>>7729831
Nocturne's definitely harder with a completely different atmosphere. You want a mostly care free fantasy adventure to save a kingdom or do you want to become the lord of demons in a post-apocalyptic religious nut Tokyo.

>> No.7730152
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7730152

>>7726291
Forget the game, look at the fanart instead.

>> No.7730261

>>7730014
Didn't P3P's AI have a lot of stupidity when it came to Tetrakarn?

>> No.7730263

>>7729363
Why do so many people hate the SOULFUL localization efforts of modern dragon quest? Why would you rather the script be boring and lifeless? Fucking meme "just learn japanese", the people saying this probably read at a kindergarten level anyway lol.

>> No.7730535

>>7730014
>That’s why P3P is the definitive version of Persona 3
Stopped reading there. Virgin detected.

>> No.7730563

>>7730535
Fuck youre dumb bud. I dont know anything about that shitty high school sim and I still know he was being facetious

>> No.7731124

>>7730563
>facetious
I may have stepped over the line.

>> No.7731154

>>7731124
You would have figured it out if you didn't "stop reading right there" hahaha

>> No.7731198

>>7731154
I know haha. I'll take this one on me.

>> No.7731242 [DELETED] 

>>7726291
>redpill me
No. Fuck off and take your nazi dog whistling with you.

>> No.7731245 [DELETED] 
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>>7731242
>nazi dog whistling

>> No.7731893

>>7727896
in turn Sleep breaks that game (along other things) once you have an Arcanist online

>> No.7731902

>>7727896
How many of those games have a final boss that can be affected by status ailment? Shin Megami Tensei had its final bosses affected by charm, which made the final battle trivial.

>> No.7731908

>>7727589
>Both trilogies are loose trilogies
First trilogy: main characters of the second game are descendent of the main character of the first game, which, in turn, is the main character of the third game. How is that a loose trilogy?

>> No.7731915

>>7730263
>SOULFUL localization
You mean fanfiction

>> No.7731926

>>7731902
The true final bosses in Etrian require varying levels of cheese to defeat (Like 3 needing shogun/ninja bullshit to dish out a truly insane amount of damage in a single turn), but the plot final bosses tend to be vulnerable. I know for a fact the final bosses of 3 are vulnerable to binds, paralysis, and Deep Princess can be slain via instant death if you're lucky enough. 4 onwards, I have no idea, and I cleared Nexus with a solo hero who has no ailment attacks to begin with.

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7731935

>>7726943
Dipshit loser plays grindy jrpg to complain about all the grinding, News at 11

>> No.7731962

>>7731926
You are making me want to play Etrian Odyssey, mate.

>> No.7731976

>>7731962
Do so, play the 3DS remakes of 1 and 2 (these come with a cool story mode but you can play classic style as well), the DS version of 3, and then 4, 5, and Nexus (you appreciate this more if you've played the prior games and it is looooong). It's a great series.

>> No.7732404

never played it but damn that Jessica got a rack on her

>> No.7732465
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7732465

>>7726291
Yes, it's the best dragon quizzle

>> No.7733067 [DELETED] 

>>7732404
coomers out of this thread

>> No.7733821 [DELETED] 

>>7733067
keep your /v/ memes out of here kiddo

>> No.7734396 [DELETED] 

>>7733821
No fapping to animegirls virgin

>> No.7734416
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7734416

>>7732465
But...

>> No.7734426

It's dull at first but gets a lot better once you leave the first town.

>>7726316

Don't take this advice but get the 3DS port of VII

>> No.7736321

So whats the deal with random encounters. Good or not?

>> No.7736564

>>7736321
Gut.

>> No.7736679

>>7726291
World is empty and boring, and gameplay is slow, but if you can stand that it's a decent Dragon Quest.

>> No.7736683

>>7736679
>it’s the best Dragon Quest
FTFY

>> No.7736727

>>7736679
>World is empty and boring
Sure you played the same game?

>> No.7736827 [DELETED] 

>>7726943
Zoomity zoopity zoom!

>> No.7736869

No. Dragon Quest is an awful series and there's a very good reason it never caught on in the west the way it did in Japan. There are probably at least 100 JRPGs more worth playing before you touch any DQ game.

>> No.7736878

>>7736869
Because the west has shit taste and can’t appreciate a lighthearted adventure with charming characters. Everything needs a convoluted plot. All characters must be an edgy swordsman.

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7736890

>>7736878
>muh charm!
>muh lighthearted!
none of that shit matters. Lots of JRPGs have a light tone. It's just most of them use Dragon Quest as a literal base to build upon, which leaves Dragon Quest fucking worthless as a series. Playing Dragon Quest when games like Shadow Hearts, the Mario RPGs, Baten Kaitos, and yes, Final Fantasy exist is fucking retarded.
It's the equivalent of choosing to play with the flat green lego plane by itself.

And there's no excuse. This series used to be revolutionary. The first two games got the entire fucking JRPG ball rolling. The third game was a massive leap forward for the genre. Then for no apparent reason they decided Dragon Quest needed to remain "traditional" and be the same for the next 30 goddamn years while nearly every other JRPG ever made from the SNES onward experimented and innovated and pushed the genre forward. It was well and truly dead when they somehow thought Dragon Quest 7 was acceptable to release on the fucking PS1, the system that brought us FF7, Parasite Eve, Xenogears, Valkyrie Profile, FF Tactics, the list could go on and on.

>> No.7737175 [DELETED] 

>>7736827
Is your ceiling holding up, anon?

>> No.7737234 [DELETED] 

>>7736890
>7736890
found the virgin

>> No.7737330

>>7726410
The best part is being able to avoid random battles.

>> No.7737419

>>7737330
Exploring and grinding around in a JRPG for hours while listening to Led Zeppelin, Babymetal or Greek philosophy classes is the best part of JRPGS. For me anyway.

>> No.7738251

>>7737419
most JRPGs are renowned for their incredible soundtracks. Oh wait, except Dragon Quest.

>> No.7738258

>>7738251
DQ has an incredible OST, though.

>> No.7738268

>>7738258
[citation needed]
Both IX and XI, the latest games in the series, have fucking horrible music.
Dragon Quest 7 was directly competing against fucking FF7-9 and Chrono Cross, let alone any other JRPG of that era with insanely good music.

does Dragon Quest have a legendary boss theme like Final Fantasy IV's? Almost anybody who ever owned a PS1 and PS2 know all the battle themes for the FF games by heart, hell they even know the town music and overworld themes.

>> No.7738273

>>7738268
To be fair, it's not valid to compare with Nobuo Uematsu's work. FFXIII has a shit OST compared to every other FF, for example.

>> No.7738316

>>7738268
Are you seriously trying to argue that Dragon Quest doesn’t have an iconic soundtrack? Jesus Christ, you double nigger.

>> No.7738337

>>7738268
>does Dragon Quest have a legendary boss theme like Final Fantasy IV's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6vYXYGg_hM

>> No.7738341 [DELETED] 

>>7738316
Why are dragoncucks so fragile?

>> No.7738347

>>7738273
>XIII
>shit OST
the fucking music is the only good thing about it. It has what is possibly the best battle theme in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfu0XBf8kmk

Also even without Uematsu, you've got Yoko Shimomura, Motoi Sakuraba (is terrible now but used to be great), Hitoshi Sakimoto, etc.

>>7738316
Almost any American gamer probably knows several FF battle themes, boss themes, and final boss themes by fucking heart, and the same goes for Kingdom Hearts. They'd probably be able to hum them from beginning to end if asked. Ask any of them to do the battle theme from DQ3 or 5 or the final boss theme from DQ8, they'll blank on you. Let alone town music, you think Dragon Quest has any town themes as iconic as Besaid Island or Wall Market?

>> No.7738427 [DELETED] 

>>7738347
>American gamer
Who cares abou them?

>> No.7738430 [DELETED] 

>>7738427
I probably could have said western gamer, I doubt any euros or latinos give a shit about Dragon Quest either.

>> No.7738440

>>7736890
7 looking like a classic RPG was not part of its problems, its main problem was its horrifyingly bad pacing. Even in the trimmed-down 3DS version the WR speedrun doesn't reach a fight until nearly an hour in.

>> No.7738446

>>7738273
>FFXIII has a shit OST
I consider FF13 to be an embarrassment to the FF name and a blight on JRPGs as a whole, but you will not stand there and insult its soundtrack.

>> No.7738456 [DELETED] 

>That one rabid DQ hater is here
Oh joy.

>> No.7738458

>>7738440
It's not even just the pacing though. The battle system and character building are trash too.

>> No.7738547

>>7738446
Compared to the rest, XIII has the weakest OST.

>> No.7738569

>>7738547
IX, XII, and XV are worse.

>> No.7738581

>>7726776
A completely average and unremarkable handjob is still a pleasant experience.

>> No.7738701

>>7726784
>It solidified what the genre is back in the Famicom days.
lmao and then went to shit with the SNES and got overtaken by every other game in the genre from that point on

>> No.7738713

>>7738569
IX's ost s superior to XIII's one, the fuck you on?

>> No.7738718

>>7738701
Not in Japan, the only country with taste.
Also you’re delusional if you think shite like FF6 or Chrono Trigger can touch DQV.

>> No.7738720

>>7738713
It has the worst boss theme in the entire series. In a game with insanely slow ass awful battles.

>> No.7738729

>>7738718
lmao Japan's favorite Gundam show is SEED and their favorite Bleach character is Hitsugaya, Japan has shit taste all the time.

>> No.7738759

>>7738720
Yeah, but that is one song out of a lot. The main problem is less about the ost and more about how it is badly used in the game. Sometimes you have some important dialogue and it's playing some town theme.

>> No.7738773

>>7738729
Hitsugaya is based.

>> No.7738781

>>7738773
Nah. He's boring, his powers are lame, his fights are lame, his design sucks, and he's a jobber. Americans have it right with Kenpachi being the favorite.

>> No.7738786

>>7738781
>burgers
>love le edgy swordsman
Oh color me shocked.

>> No.7738787

>>7738781
Pretty sure anyone that doesn't have Kenpachi as favorite is a fag.

>> No.7738792

>>7738786
>Kenpachi
>edgy
the guy has friends, a sense of humor, and clearly enjoys himself almost all the time. If edgy is the first word you think of with Kenpachi rather than manly or badass you're retarded.

>> No.7738793

Any of you play XI? I know it’s not retro but I saw people absolutely losing their shit over how it’s the “greatest game ever” who struck me as the type who never played a single DQ game before. I see it’s available pretty cheap now, is there actually anything to it?

>> No.7738809

>>7738787
Pretty sure anyone who likes drawn-out repetitive shit like Bleach is a fag. Now take your shit to >>>/a/

>> No.7738840

>>7726943
I'd just like to point out that in the PS2 game you didn't get any battles if you stayed near the roads, they happened when you ventured out into the wilderness. It made going off and exploring feel like there was some danger to it, and then a feeling of accomplishment when you got through the random encounters and found a location off the beaten path.

Also those special mini-boss enemies that gave medals after you beat them were visible on the overworld on the PS2, how did the 3DS version differentiate them if it has them all be visible?

>> No.7738854

>>7738840
There’s an icon over them that differentiates them from the other monsters on the overworld.

>> No.7739293
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7739293

>>7726291
it's pretty fucking fantastic and was one of my favorite ps2 games. has memorable characters, great villains, fairly tough but rewarding gameplay (as far as turn-based combat goes), and beautiful cel shading graphics that age like a fine wine.

All that said, DQV is still the best Dragon Quest

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>>7739293
>worst girl on the poster

what are you gay?

>> No.7739479

>>7738569
>XII
That's it, outside.

>> No.7739494

God I wish I could play this so bad, it's all janky on my pcsx2. Instead I settled for the V remake (which is still fun mind you)
The japanese really have it figured out. Sticking with the formula just works. I've never been truly disappointed in a dragon quest game so far.

>> No.7739496

>>7738793
I enjoy it! It still holds true to most of what DQ has always stood for but there's a couple qol improvements and extras to keep you satisfied. Fun characters, interesting character arcs, awesome baddies as usual. You should get it anon.

>> No.7739618

>>7739343
Abusive Italian wife is only in the DS version.

>> No.7739736

>>7738347
>Almost any American gamer probably knows several FF battle themes, boss themes, and final boss themes by fucking heart, and the same goes for Kingdom Hearts. They'd probably be able to hum them from beginning to end if asked.
Imagine being this fucking delusional.

>> No.7739868 [DELETED] 

not retro
>>>/v/

>> No.7739873 [DELETED] 

>>7739868
>PS2
Sorry faggot, it’s retro.

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>>7739868

>> No.7739916

>>7727896
>FF bosses afflicted by status ailments

Maybe try actually playing the games or updating your memory from retarded level.

>> No.7740409

>>7739916
>Astos in FF1 can be Silenced, Tiamat can be petrified, Marilith can be confused, slept, and silenced,
>Ancient Sword in FF2 in particular can really fuck up some bosses, as can Teleport
>Midgardsormer, Bottomswell, Dyne, Palmer, and Materia Keeper can all be poisoned, Ruby Weapon can be Stopped
>Beatrix can be poisoned, not sure about other FF bosses
>Seymour's second fight in FFX can be completely shut down by provoking him and casting reflect on provocateur, Defender X's AI breaks when provoked, and his third fight can be poisoned, Chocobo Eater can be Slowed, Braska's Final Aeon can be zombied, many of them can be Power Broken