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7692818 No.7692818 [Reply] [Original]

Half-Life 2 is a masterwork of liminal design.

>> No.7692824

shut the fuck up

>> No.7692848

>>7692818
That's an interesting statement.
Elaborate further, OP.

>> No.7692854

>>7692824
This

>> No.7692864

>>7692818
this post is a masterwork of ligma design

>> No.7692865

>>7692818
no? usually, whether it's explicit or not, the 'liminal' space is one that's designed for people, but is too oppressive so there are none, or is just empty of some kind of furniture business/life that's there's space for.
This just looks like under a bridge or actually kind of like a fish pond or something.
the ONLY redeeming feature of this image is the way the scene out the end kind of looks like rolling hills with a black sky

>> No.7692868

>>7692818
OP is a master at taking dicks liminally up his ass.

>> No.7692909

>>7692818
Do you have this in higher resolution?

>> No.7693098
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7693098

>>7692848
Each map serves as a transitory space leading, ultimately, to the top the Citadel. As you draw closer to the Citadel, there is a progression from purely human forms to overwhelmingly alien environments, creating an unsettling, almost disorienting, atmosphere. The streets of City 17, the labyrinthine Kanals, the dark alleys of corrugated metal and brick of Ravenholm, the winding, fog drenched coasts, and, finally, up to the very top of the Citadel - each map seamlessly leading to the next until you reach the pinnacle of that alien tower.
Art and gameplay are perfectly intertwined. The bridge map along the Coast is my favorite and is the best example of how the art of HL2 serves the gameplay rather than the other way around. This method of level design lends, in part, to the surreal look of the environments, in which things can look quite bizarre but remain plausible.
Gordon Freemam's story is one of liminality in the truest sense. After defeating the Nihilanth, he is frozen in time by Gman until he is awoken, only briefly, for the events of HL2. The passage of years only felt like a moment to Gordon. After destroying the reactor at the heart of the Citadel, he is frozen again, in a "liminal space", waiting to be tossed back into the unknown.
>>7692909
Best I could find.

>> No.7693103

>>7692824
fpbp
HL1 is the masterwork, HL2 is a nice tech demo/physics engine.

>> No.7693137

>>7692865
>'liminal' space is one that's designed for people, but is too oppressive so there are none, or is just empty of some kind of furniture business/life that's there's space for.
That's not what liminal space is. Not in architecture, at least.

>> No.7693140

>>7692824
there it is. the liminal first post. A transitional post between the original post and the rest of the thread.

>> No.7693182
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7693182

HL1 is better

>> No.7693246

>>7693137
>in architecture
nobody is talking about what you are talking about lol

>> No.7693256

HL1 is better even in the liminal aspect. Those empty offices at >>7693182 with the distant humming of electricity and footsteps on carpet and floortiles is miles better than big open spaces with fuckall to look at.

>> No.7693285

Once you grow up you come to realize that Half Life 2 was better than Half Life 1

>> No.7693286

>>7693256
Shut the fuck up dweeb

>> No.7693290

>>7693285
Based

>> No.7693297

>>7693286
Your thread's shit, cockbreath. Get fucked.

>> No.7693382

>>7693256
OpFor has some good spots too, I've always liked that one room early on where you come to that road carved into the rock.

>> No.7693398
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7693398

"uhh so a liminal space is this uhh this uhhh this uhhhhh its like transition between states of being uhhhhh and its eerie and creepy and its like it was frozen in time or something uh"
just say you like looking at pictures of empty places you absolute virgin
also I'm hijacking this gay thread, post cool pictures of maps

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>>7693398

>> No.7693404
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>>7693403
taken from the retro fps general

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7693408

>>7693404

>> No.7693412
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7693412

>>7693408

>> No.7693416

>>7693408
game of name?

>> No.7693417

>>7692864
ligma design?

>> No.7693448

>>7693416
fy_bibliotek_fix for counter strike source

>> No.7693538

>>7693256
Office Complex is great. I really like the flooded office with eletrified water. Then you climb up through the vents above the ceiling tiles. It blew my mind back the day when I discovered that those ceiling tiles were destructible.

>> No.7693983

>>7692865
Liminal means in-between. Hotel hallways are a liminal space because they're not a real place, but a transitioning point between real places. Alleyways and airports are the same way. A school or supermarket at night is a liminal space in a different sense, because they only serve a purpose during the day when people are using them.

I guess another form of liminal space would be something that only resembles a real place.

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7693987

>>7692818

>> No.7694071

>>7692864
Who's Steve Jobs?

>> No.7694172

>>7693256
You are correct.

>> No.7694272

>>7692818
OpFor > HL > Black Mesa > Decay > Episode 2 > Blue Shift > Episode 1

>> No.7694289

Somebody shoot this guy

>> No.7694451

>>7693404
>>7693403
maps based on real places are so comfy
especially rats style maps where you're in a giant bedroom

>> No.7694532

>>7693417
CANDICE DICK FIT IN YO ASS?! GODEEM

>>7693182
No. It never will be better at anything and Black Mesa only brings it close to HL2, not anywhere near passing it.

>> No.7694560

>>7693103
Being contrarian only works in person when people refuse to reply to your smelly ass so you will leave.

>> No.7694745

>>7692818
>Half-Life 2
Is a terrible game I don't wish to endure again.

>> No.7694791

>>7694745
>Half-Life 2 is a terrible game
Objectively wrong. Just be honest and say you don't like it.

>> No.7694805

>>7694791
I am honest. It's a terrible game.

>> No.7694882
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7694882

>>7693987
That's a funny image macro, anon.

>> No.7694898

>>7694791
Most of the guns are shitty, the levels are too gimmicky, and the combine ai is braindead

>> No.7694917

>>7694898
>the levels are too gimmicky
That didn't bother me. I liked how you were doing unique stuff in each chapter.

>> No.7694956

>>7694917
Sometimes it's cool but often they belabor it, eg the vehicle driving levels which are way too transparent in their gameloop

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7695072

>>7693098

>> No.7696291

>>7694745
Big Rig Racing is a terrible game
Half-Life 2 is alright

>> No.7696308

>>7692818
kill all zoomers

>> No.7696314

>>7696291
Big Rigs is surprisingly decent and much more of a video game than HL2 will ever be.

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7696329

>tfw game that came out when you just started your first job after graduating college is now called retro

>> No.7696337

>>7693983
that's not what people are talking about when they talk about it now, ok? this was already explained to you

>> No.7696340

>>7692818
Go back you worthless retard

>> No.7696358
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7696358

>>7693398
lol plebbitor BTFO

>> No.7696375

>>7696329
Feelin' old yet?

>> No.7696385

>>7696329
>little shits born in the 80s are now calling themselves old
God I'm getting cold.

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7696394

>>7692818

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7696396

>>7696340
no u

>> No.7696417

>>7694451
You have great taste anon, these maps are the absolute best. I also really like Build engine levels that try to emulate real places.

>> No.7696982
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7696982

Nipper maps are masterworks of liminal design

>> No.7697001
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>> No.7697079

>>7693398
but it's like totally negative emotion aura energy like bro shut up

>> No.7697113

>>7693403
Dude I miss that map so much. The vent system was fun, like all nipper maps were.

WHY didn't later counterstrikes have fun maps like this?

>> No.7697130

>>7697001
source or goldsrc?

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7697269

>>7694532
>It never will be better
what a funny fella

>> No.7697395

I liked HL1 for the feeling of being trapped in an endless facility where new shit keeps going wrong and things get worse and worse, HL2 felt totally different, didn't keep my attention with story/characters, and the physics were meh

>> No.7697420

>>7692864
your post is a masterwork of smegma design

>> No.7697601
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7697601

>>7693398

>> No.7697785

>>7697130
Yes

>> No.7697823

>>7692818
>HL2 is considered retro
Am I getting old or something?

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7698827

>>7697823
>Released 17 years ago
>3 years before the new retro cut off year
Yeah

>> No.7699104

>>7697823
>2004 was 30 years ago

>> No.7699604

>>7693408
someone made this map to shoot up his school

>> No.7699612

>>7692824
this

>> No.7699695
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7699695

>>7699604
nah, the layout is too abstract for that
also the guy is still making maps

>> No.7700309

>>7692818
It's actually just good at representing concrete structures.