/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7435280]

Does anybody else find this thing's library to be totally fucking worthless in the year 2021?
Once you've played the marios, zeldas, metroids, resident evils, pikmin, tales of symphonia, baten kaitos, skies of arcadia, starfox adventure, harvest moon/animal crossing, everything else people "love" to play on this thing are multiplat and almost every other version (xbox/ps2) have extra content and more power behind them.
PLEASE I'm begging /vr/ to give me suggestions for fun or cool games on this piece of shit that I haven't already played 50 times as a kid.

[Anonymous No.7435303]

>>7435280
Honest question. What is your penalty for trying a game and disliking it? Are you so scared to try new games that you'd rather be told what to play by other people? Go look at some box art and pick one that looks cool, it's how we all used to do it.

[Anonymous No.7435309]

Everyone knows Gamecube was Nintendo's worst successful console. Literally a gay Dreamcast. It has absolutely no appeal if you're over 13

[Anonymous No.7435310]

>>7435280
That's a (You) problem, not the library's

[Anonymous No.7435324]

>>7435303
I wouldn't be here if I found a game to try I would be playing said game. I just looked at a list of exclusives and none of them look interesting to me. and when it comes to non-exclusives, the better version is almost always ps2/xbox (like re4, lotr, etc)
>>7435309
I'm starting to think you're right
>>7435310
no

[Anonymous No.7435329]

>>7435324
Sonic Heroes was better on Gamecube than on PS2, that's all I got for ya.

[Anonymous No.7435330]

>>7435280
Look up "list of gamecube exclusives", pick one that looks fun, and report back how you like it.

[Anonymous No.7435350]

You're right, it's pretty barren once you've played all the good games. This wouldn't happen on other consoles, which have a literally infinite number of good games that will never run out.

[Anonymous No.7435394]

>>7435350
if this was a ps2 thread or snes thread or xbox thread multiple anons would've already replied with their lists of underrated games they love that received little to no time in the spotlight. the gamecube's library is pitiful and this thread proves it.

[Anonymous No.7435395]

>>7435280
Yes, it's almost completely worthless. It's the only major 4th-7th gen console I don't own and have no desire to.

[Anonymous No.7435414]

>>7435394
Ok zoomer.

[Anonymous No.7435426]

>>7435414
Lmao the Gamecube is literally Zoomer: the console.

[Anonymous No.7435442]

>>7435280
>Does anybody else find this thing's library to be totally fucking worthless in the year 2021?

No because I still own games for this console, including the Metal Gear Solid remake. Plus every single Resident Evil game(except for RE4, fuck that game), which makes the Gamecube really worth owning. But what do I know? I'm just a Sega Chad who bought this console because I wanted Sonic Adventure DX and Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, which the Gamecube was the only console that had those games at the time.

[Anonymous No.7435450]

Got a GCHD in my Gamecube and play it all the time OP gay. Funny how multiplats on Gamecube "don't count" but games available on fucking 7 different consoles are "PS2 Classics".

[Anonymous No.7435456]

>>7435280
There isn't anything, really. I've only got like 20 games for the thing and any other game I'd want is too expensive, so I don't bother.

Outside of stuff you named, I've got Battalion Wars, Geist, PN03, Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2, Custom Robo and MGS Twin Snakes. So you could try some of those, otherwise I can't help you.

Beach Spikers looks fun, but I've never played it, so I can't vouch for quality.

[Anonymous No.7435459]

>>7435450
PS2 dominated the gen so much it gets credit for all the multiplats. Sit down kid

[Anonymous No.7435464]

Here's my Gamecube folder
>almost every other version (xbox/ps2) have extra content and more power behind them
PS2 is actually weaker. Anyways, definitive versions of Killer 7, RE4, Monkey Ball games, Viewtiful Joe games and that's just from my list

[Anonymous No.7435468]

>>7435450
Sorry. GCLoader. Carby for HD. Pic related its him.

[Anonymous No.7435470]

>>7435394
>snes thread
>lists of underrated games they love that received little to no time in the spotlight
Mario, Zelda, the list goes on...

[Anonymous No.7435478]

>>7435464
>PS2 is actually weaker
Didn't matter because of the small disc capacity which resulted in the Gamecube versions usually looking the worst.

[Anonymous No.7435479]

>>7435426
It's too old for that.

[Anonymous No.7435480]

>>7435478
PS2 can only do 480i for the majority of games but keep posting quotes from YouTube videos you've watched

[Anonymous No.7435481]

>>7435459
The PS2 version of multiplat games is 99% the worst version. The Xbox is 99% the best version.

[Anonymous No.7435482]

>>7435456
This nigger buys videogames lmao

[Anonymous No.7435486]

>>7435480
Gran Turismo 4 literally does 1080i.
And textures and music did suffer (either by bitrate or song variety).

I'm on "your side" but seriously read first.

[Anonymous No.7435489]

>>7435478
>in the Gamecube versions usually looking the worst.
This is a lie
PS2 almost universally had the worst looking multiplats and the worst issues with frame drops. Not that it really matters in a Gamecube thread because PS2 and Cube compete for second place.

[Anonymous No.7435493]

>>7435464
>PS2 is actually weaker.
Common misconception, there is a thread on sega-16 explaining quite nicely how the PS2 actually has the GC beat in many ways, such as having a better flat memory layout allowing for more general purpose RAM, better SIMD capabilities, and faster geometry rendering, which allowed for far better lighting and particle effects than the GC was capable of. This can be seen in the best looking games on the PS2 far outperforming what the GC was capable of, with there being nothing on the GC equivalent to Black, Burnout 3, Okami, and so on.

[Anonymous No.7435496]

>>7435280
>Once you've played the marios, zeldas, metroids, resident evils, pikmin, tales of symphonia, baten kaitos, skies of arcadia, starfox adventure, harvest moon/animal crossing,
Anon, thats a nice chunk of games. Now go play cubivore.

[Anonymous No.7435504]

>>7435486
>one game
>the majority
if you actually played games you would know most were still 480i with some being 240p as well
>>7435493
either way a lot of PS2 ports have much worse graphics than Xbox or Gamecube, for example Monkey Ball or RE4

[Anonymous No.7435509]

gamecube has no hidden gems unfortunately

[Anonymous No.7435518]

>>7435280
Eternal Darkness, PN 0.3 and F-Zero GX are missing from this list.

[Anonymous No.7435529]

>>7435450
>GCHD
You overpaid for an HD adapter? LOL Carby is way better.

[Anonymous No.7435538]

>>7435280
gauntlet dark legacy
thps underground

lol

[Anonymous No.7435558]

1080 Avalange,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcJgmydyqh4

[Anonymous No.7435570]

>>7435489
Not even a lie. Gamecube always has the worst textures and various missing effects. Go check out comparisons between Splinter Cell, True Crime and Def Jam NY.

[Anonymous No.7435572]

>>7435280
>no ace combat
>no god hand
>no mgs
it's shit
play killer 7

[Anonymous No.7435573]

>>7435570
>always
nope
if it's ports that are across the entire gen, play the Xbox version. You might not be wrong that some ports are better on PS2 than GC but then they're even better on Xbox. PS2 still doesn't have great video output unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.7435662]

>>7435280
Path of Radiance, if you can afford it.

[Anonymous No.7435671]

>>7435518
>PN 0.3
>missing
For good reason.

[Anonymous No.7435690]

>transcube

[Anonymous No.7435708]

You just don't like the gamecube. You didn't have to make a thread about it loll. Why do people even make threads like this? Why do you care so much that you want to convince people here? Personally I go back to gamecube games all the time. Games like smash bros melee and mario kart will be fun forever with friends. And it still has the best and original version on RE4. I could go on but just that makes it a good console to me.

[Anonymous No.7435723]

Tfw cant emulate ps2 so have to play gamecube

[Anonymous No.7435798]

>>7435309
It was way better than the Wii and the N64

[Anonymous No.7435923]

one of the best games was a launch title

[Anonymous No.7435927]

>>7435798
>and the N64
Did Shitcube have its own Goemon games?
No?
Then it can't be better.

[Anonymous No.7436001]

Why do nintendorks love lying about the gamecube? They always say it was more powerful than the PS2 and Xbox, but thats a lie, because Xbox was way more powerful than it. They also like to slip in another little white lie that it outsold Xbox, but it didnt. It did so by a slight margin yes, but they act like Gamecube wasnt actually dead last that console gen.

Theres also this weird revisionist history going around by zoomers (I dont know if its the fault of cubie e-celebs like Antdude or whatever) saying the Gamecube was beloved and had tons of classics. The reality was that it went through terrible droughts and was constantly belittled for being a toy lunchbox. Every school in america had kids worshipping PS2 for ghetto rap nigger culture with San Andreas or shooty shoot marines with Halo oj Xbox, but it was mostly PS2. If you ever dared saying you liked shit like Mario Sunshine and Animal Crossing you were considered a fag loser. So why the revisionist shit? Is it all a big cope they tell themselves in adulthood as they start looking back? It would explain the exorbitant prices online for these games. You'd think GC games were worth more than gold. But they arent.

[Anonymous No.7436058]

>>7435309
and then you remember the n64 exists

[Anonymous No.7436062]

>>7435280
>Once you've played the marios, zeldas, metroids, resident evils, pikmin, tales of symphonia, baten kaitos, skies of arcadia, starfox adventure, harvest moon/animal crossing,

You do realise, you've mentioned around 17 games there. That's without F-Zero, Eternal Darkness, Twin Snakes, Wave Race, Soul Calibur 2 etc...

[Anonymous No.7436064]

>>7435927
>Shitcube
The only ones who call it that, are Soncels.

[Anonymous No.7436076]

>>7436064
And people with good taste in retro videogame systems.

[Anonymous No.7436085]

>>7436001
>it outsold Xbox, but it didnt.
>It did so by a slight margin yes
k

[Anonymous No.7436102]

>>7436076
False. People with good taste, own a Gamecube.

[Anonymous No.7436112]

>>7436102
The Gamecube sucked dick, retarded zoomlet, and almost killed Nintendo until the Wii saved their ass (but not in a good way).

[Anonymous No.7436118]

>>7436076
I mean the Gamecube is fine, it's worth keeping one around (or a Wii) for the handful of decent games on it, much like the N64
I suppose if you're after generic third person games like >>7436001 maybe not

[Anonymous No.7436212]

>>7436112
t.Soncel who never owned a Gamecube.

Keep seething Sonycuck.

[Anonymous No.7436235]

>>7435459
good lord, i never knew it was that bad. holy shit

[Anonymous No.7436240]

>>7436212
I owned a Gamecube before I owned any Sony systems lol, it was a massive disappointment compared to any of their earlier consoles.
Poor sequels, and inferior 3rd party versions or not getting any at all, that was owning a GC.

[Anonymous No.7436403]

Gamecube was only worth having for the Capcom support, but eventually all their games got ported to other systems anyways...

[Anonymous No.7436436]

>>7435280
>>7435394
> Bomberman Generation
> Pac Man World 2
> Spyro: Enter the Dragonfly (best version by far)
> XD/Colosseum
> Donald Duck: Goin' Quackers (It's actually good, trust me)
> Spongebob Squarepants: Battle for Bikini Bottom
> Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy (the PC version is better though)
Now I will wait for the haters and Sony ponies to bitch about how these games aren't actually good in 3... 2... 1...

[Anonymous No.7436440]

Doshin my nig

[Anonymous No.7436441]

>>7435280
It had great couch coop in Timespliters 2 with 4 players, Smash, Mario Party, and Mario Kart.

[Anonymous No.7436508]

You literally can' say the gc version is the definitive version of RE4 or Viewtiful Joe because RE4 doesn't have Mercenaries, tommy gun, etc. and Viewtiful Joe doesn't have Dante Mode. Sure they might run (VJ) or look (RE4?) smoother but they're objectively not the definitive version. The only thing exclusive to GC RE4 is Ashley's Jiggle Physics (wasn't even in the wii ver).

[Anonymous No.7436524]

>>7436436
"I watch youtube reviewers: the post"

[Anonymous No.7436527]

>>7436508
Forgot to quote
>>7435464
and
>>7435708

[Anonymous No.7436538]

>>7436436
All but 2 on this list are multiplats you failure

[Anonymous No.7436574]

>>7435456
played pn03 and VJ1+2 as a kid, beat twin snakes
>>7435464
played every one of these except odama (dislike pinball) and geist (dislike FPS)
>>7435662
I've beaten multiple FE and this one is so damn boring I lose interest every time I try to play it around Chapter 4 or so
>>7435923
>onions wars
>>7436436
I could check out bomberman, but pac man world is trash, spyro is gay (what's your obsession with 3d mascot platformers?) XD/Colosseum are gay I mean no wild pokemon wtf, Donald Duck and Sponegbob, again with the mascot platformers? I'm not playing shit for babies. I played Sphinx as a kid and liked it but tried to replay it as an adult and only made it past the first mummy part.
I'm glad I made this thread, it's really opened my eyes to just how shit the Gamecube is. Still like the Wii though.

[Anonymous No.7436598]

>>7436574
you've played the entire library it sounds like. the gamecube is fine though and has games to come back to, especially the multiplayer titles. n64 is the same way.

[Anonymous No.7436619]

>>7436436
Like I said, no appeal if you're older than 13

[Anonymous No.7436704]

>>7436436
I stan cube, but these games fucking suck

[Anonymous No.7436734]

>>7436574
I'd say PoR is pretty on par to any other traditional FE game, but I can see why people are turned off by that. It's a decent exclusive, but not enough to save the abyssmal GC library

[Anonymous No.7436818]

>>7435280
chibi robo

i dont know what else to say to you.
since n64 you only buy nintendo systems for first / second party games.

Theyre usually very good but third parties are absent (except for indies on the more recent consoles)

[Anonymous No.7436828]

>>7436436
>Donald Duck: Goin' Quackers (It's actually good, trust me)
interesting, didn't know this had a different name in the states (it was called Quack Attack here, uk).
I had it bundled with my PS2 but i didn't play it much, kinda felt like crash bandicoot iirc.

[Anonymous No.7436829]

Aside from
>All these great games
This console's got nothing!

[Anonymous No.7436841]

>>7436436
Hope this is bait lmfao

[Anonymous No.7436846]

>>7435350
With Pier Solar and Paprium Genesis still hasn't run out

[Anonymous No.7436889]

>>7436240
>Falseflagging this much
Wow

[Anonymous No.7436962]

>>7436524
All of these other than Sphinx I played as a kid. Sphinx I played when the PC port came out.
>>7436538
No one said they had to be exclusives, and all but Sphinx are the best version of the game.

[Anonymous No.7436964]

>>7435708
> And it still has the best and original version on RE4.
LOL absolutely not. 60fps and widescreen alone makes the PC/8th gen versions worth it. And the PC version is the best because you can use mods to disable film grain and increase the ant sized FOV.

[Anonymous No.7436981]

>>7435923
too hard

[Anonymous No.7436985]

>>7435280
>once you've played the 20 or 30 best games for it there's nothing left!!
What kind of fucking retard take is this?
Also imagine thinking PS2 multiplats are remotely comparable to the Gamecube. Just fucking compare RE4. Even fucking Super Monkey Ball is blatantly superior looking on Gamecube.

Even Gamecube games that explicitly look like dogshit BECAUSE the game itself was dumbed down for PS2 hardware in development (Sonic Heroes) somehow manage to still be better on Gamecube.

[Anonymous No.7437009]

>>7435481
gamecube versions are often worse than ps2 versions.

[Anonymous No.7437014]

>>7437009
What fucking massive cope is this? The PS2 has outright inferior hardware. Are you farming (you)s?

[Anonymous No.7437056]

Why did Sega dump all their shitty games onto the Gamecube while putting their good stuff on PS2 and Xbox?

[Anonymous No.7437071]

>>7435504
Very few run at 240p, it's at best a novelty that some do.

>>7437014
GC had much less capable hardware. Here's where you post RE4 as if it's an impressive looking game.

[Anonymous No.7437074]

>>7435280
>XBOX
Man at least the cube has tons of good exclusives. XBOX has halo and what else?

[Anonymous No.7437084]

>>7436436
>Bad ports and shovelware for children

[Anonymous No.7437085]

>>7437074
ninja gaiden and panzer dragoon which are better than every game on the gamecube.

[Anonymous No.7437087]

>>7437074
best Sega games of the generation outside of the Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.7437109]

>>7437056
Can you really blame them? Why would Sega want to put effort into helping their original arch enemy?

[Anonymous No.7437112]

>>7435662
>if you can afford it.
Why yes, I do believe that I can afford a $0.00 download. You don't actually spend hundreds of dollars to play games that you can play for free, do you?

[Anonymous No.7437115]

the wii makes it pretty obsolete. gamecube controller is god tier though

[Anonymous No.7437117]

>>7437014
The controller makes it so that every Gamecube port is inferior.

[Anonymous No.7437121]

>>7437117
not to mention the discs that hold 1/3rd the data

[Anonymous No.7437134]

>>7437014
What do you not understand about textures taking up limited disc space? Gamecube is working with 33% of the disc space of the PS2. Affects music and movie fidelity too.

[Anonymous No.7437147]

>>7437115
wii makes it completely obsolete. Nintendont literally improves the performance of games by upwards to 30fps, making games which drop into the mid/sub 30s run almost twice as well. It's not even a question, if you wanna play GC games at the right res, the Wii is far better.

[Anonymous No.7437148]

>>7436062
You can't even mention 5 games without resorting to games that are better on other systems.
>Twin Snakes
Bad remake of a PlayStation game
>Soul Calibur 2
Inferior version of a multiplat
>b-but muh Link!!1!1
No-one cares, and it's certainly not worth putting up with the GameCube's garbage controller just to play as one character.

[Anonymous No.7437164]

>>7437014

[Anonymous No.7437215]

>>7437148
>Twin Snakes
okay sure.

>Soul Calibur 2
Best version hands down.

>b-but no one cared
Most bought version of the game. All due to Link.

[Anonymous No.7437448]

>>7435280
That's a lot of games though anon.

I grew up with the gamecube and I only go back to the resident evils these days, but i'm fine with that.

[Anonymous No.7437475]

>>7435478
The Gamecube's GPU can use S3TC's compressed textures which provides for a 6:1 ratio in compression for 24-bit textures. For 16-bit textures the ratio is 4:1, and for 8-bit textures the ratio is 2:1.

Let us consider how much compressed textures the Gamecube can hold in it's 24 MB of main memory if we consider different memory size requirements for game code/geometry/etc.
Code/Geometry/etc. Free Texture Space 24-bit Textures (compressed 6:1)
6 MB 18 MB 108 MB
8 MB 16 MB 96 MB
10 MB 14 MB 84 MB
12 MB 12 MB 72 MB


As you can see the Gamecube can store lots of textures in it's memory using S3TC's texture compression format. Note that another benefit of using compressed textures is that the bandwidth requirements also decrease by the same ratio as the actual compression. At a ratio of 6:1, the memory bus can pass 6 times more textures. That means the GPU's texture cache bus of 10.4 GB/sec can pass 62.4 GB of 24-bit compressed textures, and the external bus of 2.6 GB/sec can pass 15.6 GB of 24-bit compressed textures each second!

[Anonymous No.7437493]

>>7437164
Bullshit!

https://youtu.be/P9zCPDea3dI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Pml1U8n4k

F-Zero GX has bigger environments , 29 A.I and with insanes speeds at rock solid 60fps. Burnout 3 destruction animations runs at 30fps

[Anonymous No.7437516]

>>7437112
Ok.

[Anonymous No.7437590]

>>7435324
>the better version is almost always ps2/xbox (like re4, lotr, etc)
RE4's better on Gamecube, you retard. In fact it's better on GCN than any other platform, HD or otherwise

[Anonymous No.7437606]

>>7435330
melee babyyyyyyyyyyy

[Anonymous No.7437624]

>>7437475
emulation is so shitty.

[Anonymous No.7437628]

>>7437493
Destruction animations were intentionally capped at 30 fps because they wanted to push more particle effects and such. I still think the real reason they didn't put 3 on GameCube was because they just didn't want to, certainly seemed that way after they seemed to sabotage Burnout 2's GCN release.

[Anonymous No.7437631]

Monkey Ball tho...

[Anonymous No.7437634]

>>7437624
emugayshun

[Anonymous No.7437721]

>>7435280
Tony hawk 3, 4, underground, underground 2
007 nightfire
Golden eye rogue agent
Bloody roar
Godzilla destroy all monsters
Ultimate muscle
Yugioh the falsebound kingdom
Fifa 2004
Fifa street
Gauntlet dark legacy
Simpson's road rage
Simpson's hit and run

Games you might have played on other systems, but still great. Really this was the only system I got into

[Anonymous No.7437747]

>>7435486
What GT4 does is actually upscaling shitty internally rendered 480i up to 1080i with color palette reduced to 16bit or lower.
PS2 doesn't even have enough VRAM for 480p frame-buffer, you can especially forget about true 1080i.

[Iceman No.7437781]

Yeah the GameCube's library wasn't the first time I was iffy on owning a Nintendo console. I was only really going with it because I grew up with Mario and didn't see myself ever aging out of his games. I wanted to continue to play Pokemon and other titles and I liked the Super Nintendo so what could go wrong? Save for a few gems on the N64 all I was doing was regretting never having a Playstation or knowing what the majority of my friends were fucking talking about. I had a GameCube and, fuck, it really didn't get much mileage outside of the titles in OP. My mom got me a used PS2 from GameStop for getting good grades and I never really looked back. Bought a Wii and traded it back in like two months later. Just wasn't for me.

Now I want a Switch because I figure it's been long enough and there's years worth of backlogged shit I haven't played. It's co-vid season so why the fuck not.

[Anonymous No.7437798]

>>7437074
Yeah what they said:
>>7437085
>>7437087
But also splinter cell, call of Cthulhu, cold fear, dead or alive 2 ultimate, doa 3, doaxbv, deus ex, dino crisis, Dr muto, dungeons and dragons (along with baldurs gate 1 and 2), Fable, Genma Onimusha, gunvalkrye, Jade empire, jsrf, outrun 2 + 2006 (more Sega), psychonauts, Rayman, return to castle Wolfenstein, sonic heroes/mega collection/riders, sudeki, Morrowind (lmao get fucked), thief deadly shadows, timesplitters, oh and emulators with 100% complete gbo, GBC, GBA, nes, SNES, gamegear, master system, genesis, 32x, virtual boy libraries and compatibility, along with limited ps1 and N64 compatible emulators as well. Just to name a little bit of what I have sitting on my modded Xbox right now. Along with capcom CPS-2 and CPS-3 arcade emulators, and snk neo geo of course. Faggot.

[Anonymous No.7438215]

>>7436981

become competent

[Anonymous No.7438251]

>>7437071
RE4 was literally one of the best looking video games ever released when it came out.

[Anonymous No.7438291]

>>7437164
This sounds like cope from a team (or publisher) that didn't want to bother. Factor 5 could easily have gotten the game probably not only working on Gamecube but surpassing the other two versions. Let alone something like Sega who made fucking F-Zero GX.

[Anonymous No.7438317]

>>7437112
Costs money for that few seconds of internet service to find and DL the game, and the electricity to power your PC, and the tiny amount of wear and tear on your PC to compute the DL. Checkmate, faggot.

[Anonymous No.7438390]

>>7438291
F-Zero GX wasn't even that visually impressive. I read through the thread, the devs didn't want to retool the game and have it be completely inferior because they couldn't do as much with destruction and like the other guy said particle effects which the PS2 was well known to have much better capabilities than the GC. The GC edged out in texturing, the PS2 in particle effects, complex lighting, etc. The PS2 would've been visually on par with the Xbox if the hardware AA wasn't broken, which made devs waste a lot of bandwidth using essentially software supersampling to make games not look jaggy as fuck.

>>7437747
Tons of 480p were released for the PS2 after devs found out you could use the VRAM as a frame buffer + texture cache.

[Anonymous No.7438453]

>>7438390
>F-Zero GX wasn't even that visually impressive
constant 60 fps, incredibly fast gameplay, large environments with lots of details and great textures, all with 30 fucking vehicles WITH INTERIORS AND PILOTS. You are insane. It's from a technical standpoint probably the best looking game on the system.

[Anonymous No.7438518]

>>7437164
>>7437493
>>7437628
There's been history between Criterion and Nintendo ever since they were bought out by EA. They approached Nintendo to try and persuade them to publish NFSMWU. Because EA were being EA. They then got pissed off with Nintendo because they didn't want to publish a game that that already a year old.

Criterion also struggled with the GC version of Burnout 2 , I came out later than the others, so we know which machines were priority for them even in the begining.

[Anonymous No.7438545]

>>7438390
PS2 have much better capabilities? Wut?

Then explain to me why RE4 is so downgraded ? due to the PlayStation 2's hardware limitations, lower polygon count, which resulted in a loss of character and environment detail.
The port is missing many lighting effects, however, and water effects needed to be re-designed (ripple with transparency, but a flat surface with no reflections) as the PlayStation 2 hardware does not have the same capabilities as the GameCube. Some small things were left out of the PlayStation 2 version, for instance, the barrels that Leon breaks throughout the game are missing a circular rim on the top compared to the GameCube version. In an interview, Ganados polygon counts were compared to that of the GameCube version revealing how much polygon counts were sacrificed.

it can also be manually compared when extracting the models with proper methods or other methods such as the use of "unofficial" tools and emulators showing the differences in models when comparing the two version. Some character model physics were also downgraded or completely removed due to the sacrificial and downgrading of model quality such as Ada's hair, Leon's back hair, Ashley's hair and Skirt being no longer animated as they were in the original game release.

Additionally, almost all the GameCube's real-time cut scenes were converted into movie files in order to maintain a better quality. This results in the player's character appearing wearing their default costume, regardless of which accessories or outfits were actually chosen. Furthermore, voices and sound effects quality outside of the cut-scenes had been reduced due to disc space being quickly used and audio RAM constraints.

[Anonymous No.7438574]

>>7435482
I buy what I can't emulate, since I have shitty PC's that can't emulate 6th gen.

[Anonymous No.7438586]

>>7438545
>Then explain to me why RE4 is so downgraded?
RE4 was originally announced as a GC exclusive, and Shinji Mikami said he would commit sodoku if it went anywhere else. Capcom then announced it for PS2 which caused Mikami to leave. It's much more likely that it was a rushed port than anything else, especially because RE4 isn't very visually impressive either. The PS2 was harder to develop for as well, which contributed to it. I encourage you to read through the thread, the Gamecube is only superior in ease of development, texturing, and simple lighting. The PS2 could handle more polygons, physics, complex lighting, particles, etc, but was held back by having to use its bandwidth for supersampling cause of broken hardware AA. And the top GC games still can't compare to the best-looking PS2 games, like SOTC, Black, MGS3, etc.

[Anonymous No.7438590]

>>7438586
>especially because RE4 isn't very visually impressive either
It looks better than SOTC, Black or MGS3 easily.

[Anonymous No.7438608]

>>7438590
Pure delusion. Did RE4 have any use of complex lighting, or other shaders, or particle physics? I don't remember much in the way of complex lighting like SSAO/Bloom, and the only particle physics I remember was fog that obscured the background. You might think it looks better aesthetically than SOTC, but something like SOTC just couldn't be done because of the shaders it used on the PS2.

[Anonymous No.7438624]

>>7438453
F-Zero GX also uses simple lighting, no physics, no reflections from what I can remember, no complex shaders in general (I remembered the lava, but looking it up now it doesn't look too impressive), the vehicles were low-poly, etc, I don't think the gameplay being fast has much to do with anything, just texturing. I also loved F-Zero GX when I emulated it, one of my favorite games of all time. But I think it's carried aesthetically but not necessarily technically.

[Anonymous No.7438643]

allowing 6th gen on /vr/ was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.7438761]

>>7438608
it looks very much like a modern game

[Anonymous No.7439038]

>>7435464
very nice library

[Anonymous No.7439047]

>>7438643
Yup. Only Dreamcast should've been allowed since it was dead by 2002

[Anonymous No.7439085]

>>7438586

SOTC is a beautiful game but run poorly on PS2 with frame rates reaching sub 15 fps, the GameCube had more hardwired features that didn't even required a software or driver in between it's components
A TEV unit which could be the equivalent of pixel per vertex shader, a multitexture unit, texture compressor , even the Dreamcast had a TMU , PS2 had to do a bunch of things using software , it lacked many hardware feature at the time . The thing is it was the lead plataformfor many titles and won the generation in sales and games . But form a technical perspective Ps2 was way behind the GC and XBOX

[Anonymous No.7439094]

>>7435280
B-Battalion wars?

[Anonymous No.7439112]

>>7438608
Wut ? RE4 on GC used many source of dynamic lights! Particles effects ranging from fire particles ,blood splatter and small insects flying on screen , specular highlights effects and shaders

In addition to the models, we also adjusted textures for each scene. We sometimes faced problems with how to adjust the way that characters looked when different lights hit them. This happened especially when we used a lot of penetrating or spot lights. We solved this problem by creating textures for each scene or each cut.

Not only was this used for something as detailed as eyes , but was used widely, anywhere from the characters' bodies, to background objects. This texture adjustment was also useful in addressing problems with dynamic lighting situations, such as when dented objects were being lit too brightly

[Anonymous No.7439692]

>>7435459
PS2 was everyone's first DVD player. Not fair to compare it to game consoles.

[Anonymous No.7439727]

>>7435414
>Ok zoomer

does this condescending meme work on all groups of people?
for example:
ok red dit fag;
ok libtard;
ok incel mom;
ok skaven boi;
ok orc boi;

[Anonymous No.7439740]

>>7435280
no I'm having a lot of fun with it. I've got a hacked Wii with game cube controllers and the Wii could be awesome if it didn't have those annoying motion controls I just hate. so I'm mostly playing game cube on it.

today I've started playing the Simpsons hit and run, it's even localised in my native language and I'm having a nostalgia blast. this game is like advanced crazy taxi. sega should have done something clever with that IP but sega is just stupid and wastes one opportunity after another

[Anonymous No.7439748]

>>7435280
>once you played everything there's nothing more to play
Wow, you're a genius, OP!

[Anonymous No.7439785]

>>7439692
Tell that to Sony’s pockets lol. Them niggas made bank (and then wasted a lot of it on PS3)

[Anonymous No.7439801]

>>7437631
originally on Sega hardware and Xbox has the definitive home version

[Anonymous No.7439883]

>>7436964
go back to /v/

[Anonymous No.7439894]

>>7439883
All 6th gen invaders should go back.

[Anonymous No.7440074]

>>7439801
>Xbox
super monkey ball dx controls like shit. the only good home version is on the gamecube.

[Anonymous No.7440090]

>>7440074
Why, because you need the notches on the controller to guide the monkey for you?

[Anonymous No.7440318]

>>7437798
>dino crisis
Cool Bait

[Anonymous No.7440768]

>>7435280
The Game Cube's primary function is to play GBA games

[Anonymous No.7442205]

>>7437164
Holy kek

[Anonymous No.7442217]

>>7435280
Pokemon XD

[Anonymous No.7442237]

>>7442217
>XD
die

[Anonymous No.7442250]

>>7438453
>lots of detail