Shadow Warrior for free on Steam

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Shadow Warrior for free on Steam NESfag Wed May 29 09:31:58 2013 No.736602 [Reply] [Original]

Shadow Warrior for free on Steam (using Dosbox)

http://store.steampowered.com/app/238070/

are you ready to be hardcore?
>Hardest difficulty
>sword only
>no saves

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 09:36:58 2013 No.736608 >>736602 >using Dosbox for Shadow Warrior >not SWR

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 10:07:27 2013 No.736653 >Steam Does it have good multiplayer support?

>>	NESfag Wed May 29 10:11:57 2013 No.736662 File: 109 KB, 1024x768, dm8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>736653 it has none i used to play SW online a few years back using YANG (pic related)

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 10:26:27 2013 No.736675 Any good source ports for this?

>>	NESfag Wed May 29 11:01:08 2013 No.736762 >>736675 there is Jonof port for it but it's rather rough and hasn't been updated in ages still playable though http://www.jonof.id.au/jfsw

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 11:48:58 2013 No.736882 >A game on Steam >Using DOSbox I'd never thought I'd see the day

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 11:51:57 2013 No.736886 >dosbox

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 11:55:58 2013 No.736898 >>736762 >>736675 ProAsm's SWP. It's a modded version of the JonoF port and has modding support. http://proasm.com/sw/swp.html

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 11:56:28 2013 No.736902 >>736608 enlighten the humble no nothings what is SWR?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 11:56:58 2013 No.736903 >>736762 There's also SWR, which is based on JFSW and is an updated version of it. JFSW doesn't work in Win 7 IIRC, while SWR does.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 11:57:27 2013 No.736905 >>736903 >>736902 *SWP, I'm a dumbass

>>	script writer kibe Wed May 29 11:58:58 2013 No.736909 >>736602 >get "Shadow Warrior Complete Collection" the other day >then this happens God I wish I hadn't forgotten my Steam log in......

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 12:08:29 2013 No.736928 >>736905 >>736903 >>736898 how exactly do I get this to work? when I try to start it it gives me a "failed to load tables.dat". Do I need to already have the original game?

>>	General Malcolm Granger !Da0m8Chris Wed May 29 12:11:29 2013 No.736935 >>736882 old news, classic Xcom already does that

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 12:11:29 2013 No.736936 >>736928 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 12:12:59 2013 No.736942 >>736882 Dude, the entire list of the old X-COM games run off dos-box, but they aren't optimized in any way so they run like shit unless you set up custom setups and run it outside of steam.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 12:16:28 2013 No.736953 >>736935 >>736942 I never played Xcom. I'm not that big a fan of strategy games, except for HOMM3

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 12:19:59 2013 No.736964 >>736935 don't a bunch of other older games that are on steam do that as well?

>>	General Malcolm Granger !Da0m8Chris Wed May 29 12:20:58 2013 No.736969 >>736964 probably, i know xcom does it for sure

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 13:39:58 2013 No.737247 File: 768 KB, 500x340, 1362969697659.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >decided to look up the website advertised after you exit the game >porn site comes up

Anonymous Wed May 29 18:58:59 2013 No.738439

Why is this game so fucking hardcore? On easiest difficulty, on the very first level there is a monster (green guy with knife) that can kill you with one barrage. One barrage. Every other guy hitscan you, and god helps you if you will be in a view of many of those guys for too long. Boss kills you in 1 hit too. Yes, there is a boss on level 1, I haven't played an oldschool shooter that would have that. Puzzles are really hard for a cheesy game: Hexen beats that, but that was first level, maybe there's more to come. On harder difficulties there are some monsters that look like shadows. They just blind you on attack, and then you just die, because you can't see shit.
I have to finish this game.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 19:04:28 2013 No.738463 >>738439 The boss at the end of the first level of the registered maps is just the boss from the last of the shareware maps. You're supposed to play the shareware set first.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 19:05:58 2013 No.738471 >>736602 >Shadow Warrior Classic So I guess this makes the sequel New Shadow Warrior, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 19:14:58 2013 No.738512 Holy shit, thanks OP! I've played that game, when I was a little boy, somewhere, but I forgot what that game was or what was its name.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 19:29:28 2013 No.738617 >>736964 Yes. There's at least a dozen.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 19:31:28 2013 No.738624 >>738471 They call the sequel "Shadow Warrior" too. In one of those ultra presumptuous moves modern game companies seem to do more and more often.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 19:36:28 2013 No.738654 I need to play this now.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 19:44:58 2013 No.738709 File: 77 KB, 500x400, 221.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>738624

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 19:47:58 2013 No.738721 >>738709 but in this case, unlike coca-cola, the whole reboot thing isn't to sell more of the old version

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 19:48:58 2013 No.738728 >>738721 Pretty sure the reason they ditched "New Coke" altogether was because everyone hated it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 19:50:29 2013 No.738741 >>736602 So why is the UI exactly the same as in Duke Nukem: 3D?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 19:51:59 2013 No.738752 >>738741 Same engine.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 19:59:29 2013 No.738793 File: 7 KB, 218x232, asf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHAT IN THE FUCK I fire a grenade, duck behind a wall, and the explosion kills me

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 20:02:29 2013 No.738809 >>738793 Because... It is good day to die!

>>	GT3000 !Q5taavazbM Thu May 30 04:58:01 2013 No.740645 >>738728 My boss was a senior IT manager for Coke during the New Coke days. He said it was dark times. Dark, dark, foreboding times. Then Coke Classic was the wonder soda that fixed everything.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 06:54:17 2013 No.740804 >Single player game >Steam forcing one to be online to play it Which is why I'd rather buy it from GoG.com

>>	NESfag Thu May 30 06:55:17 2013 No.740806 >>740804 the GOG version has 2 add ons too which are great

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 07:28:48 2013 No.740869 >>740804 copy the shadow warrior to whatever other folder from steam one boom, no online needed

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 07:30:47 2013 No.740874 >>740804 If it doesn't have Steamworks, you can launch it outside of Steam.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 08:02:47 2013 No.740939 >>740806 Both of which are free.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 08:12:48 2013 No.740974 >Minimum: >OS:Windows XP or Vista >Processor:1.8 GHz Processor Wut?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 08:34:48 2013 No.741037 >>740974 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95eUhuR8_ps dosbox is a virtual machine software and it emulates pc from late '90s to run shadow warrior. so of course it needs some more juice.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 08:35:48 2013 No.741041 >>741037 well how it got there

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 08:41:17 2013 No.741058 >>740974 Pretty much every single DOSbox game, but work fine on a low-end notebook. Was appalled by the same as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 09:13:48 2013 No.741131 >>741037 Aw shit, just noticed now that guy killed himself back in February. If only he could have sold his NES maybe he wouldn't killed himself ;_;

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 09:15:47 2013 No.741146 >>736602 why the hell doesn't this show up in F2P search on steam? are there more "hidden" games like this?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 09:20:18 2013 No.741162 >>741146 Probably because it hasn't been tagged with the "free to play" genre in its description. Only just "Action."

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 09:52:20 2013 No.741276 >>738793 The splash damage in build engine is weird. Also those grenades throw some burning debris around which can hurt you.

Anonymous Thu May 30 09:58:18 2013 No.741297

>>741276
grenade launcher is secretly the best weapon in game. train on some empty place to see how the bouncing works. the splash damage is ridicoulus, but it helps greatly to clear rooms with colored ninjas, coolies and shadow ninjas. i use g launcher most of the time on 3rd difficulty and when you learn to bomb the shit out of every place it's satisfying as hell

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 12:28:19 2013 No.741810 >>741276 >fire nuke >cannot progress due to fallout forgot how fast you die in this, its like quake one with more wang

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 12:58:49 2013 No.741897 >>736909 To be fair it being a free was a goof. http://www.gamezone.com/news/2013/05/29/shadow-warrior-classic-is-forever-accidentally-free-on-steam

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 13:02:18 2013 No.741912 Lazy re-release. Better wait for Shadow Warrior +

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 13:03:18 2013 No.741913 >>738439 For me it is the slower movement. Been awhile since I played Duke or Blood but I remember moving a lot faster when you ran compared to Shadow Warrior.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 13:04:18 2013 No.741916 I have no idea how I beat this game as a kid. I tried this just now even the easiest difficulty is fucking hard.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 13:05:18 2013 No.741921 >>740645 I really want to know how New Coke tasted.

Anonymous Thu May 30 13:26:48 2013 No.741967

>>741913
capslock = autorun

everybody: learn to use grenade launcher, sticky bombs, riotgun's alternative mode (press 3 to select riotgun and 3 again to switch modes). coolies kill with missiles, uzis against rippers, all the rest grenade the shit out of them. when you see shadow ninja, no matter what, escape the room and start throwing grenades inside. look for secrets all the time. remember about portable healthkit.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 13:27:18 2013 No.741969 >>741967 I already did have autorun enabled. I thought it was disabled but I checked in game by hitting it. Maybe my brain is slowing down time but Lo Wang feels a lot slower than other build engine characters.

NESfag Thu May 30 13:30:18 2013 No.741975

>>741969
I don't think it's that much slower tbh. Are you sure it's configured nicely and you're not having lag? Dosbox lags rather easily in 640*480 or 800*600 in VESA mode. Hell, I even had to play Blood in 320*240. I wish I still had a mid 90's computer for that game alone

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 13:31:48 2013 No.741981 >>741975 I was running it in SWP because it kept crashing on Dosbox. Like I said it has been a while since I played a Build Engine game so my memory may be hazy about how fast they move.

Anonymous Thu May 30 13:34:18 2013 No.741992

>>741975
this. why blood is so much resorce demanding than sw or duke or redneck rampage is beyond me. the custom build3d version is a hacky clusterfuck probably. shadow warrior was done in-house by 3dr, so ken silverman knew what to do in order to improve. redneck rampage vanilla didn't have any engine changes other than food/drink gimmick

NESfag Thu May 30 13:35:18 2013 No.741995

>>741981
In Duke3D and SW there is a glitch that makes the character run about 20-25% faster. For that you either need to use a joystick (hence why every "pro" used a joystick in deathmatch back then) or moving forward and strafe at the same time.
Always move forward/backward and strafe at the same time for more speed.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 13:37:18 2013 No.742000 >>741995 So basically, the same straferunning trick as in Doom then.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 13:39:48 2013 No.742009 >>737247 no it doesn't http://www.bestinclass.com/about/ten

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 15:24:50 2013 No.742343 This has been free on 3D Realms' site for years, so that's probably why.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 21:36:49 2013 No.743702 >>741146 alien swarm i think that was the name free and it even has online

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 22:05:49 2013 No.743770 >>742343 Only the shareware version.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 23:24:23 2013 No.744017 >>741921 Like Pepsi.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 08:31:51 2013 No.745856 >>738741 Gook Nukem 3d.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 09:52:51 2013 No.746017 File: 17 KB, 251x245, 1329658230462s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>745856

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 11:22:51 2013 No.746245 You want to wash wang? Or you want to watch wang wash wang?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 11:26:21 2013 No.746251 >>746245 Two Wangs are better than one.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 11:34:22 2013 No.746274 >>736602 That game is hard as fuck the way it is, no need to bring the sword challenge to the matter.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 11:45:21 2013 No.746308 Are caltrops as useless as they first appear?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 11:55:51 2013 No.746338 >>746308 Caltrops and the gas bomb are shit. Flash Bomb is okay, if you remember it exists. Smoke Bomb is pretty much the only good item.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 11:59:51 2013 No.746349 I used to play SW multi on TeN fun times

Anonymous Fri May 31 12:12:52 2013 No.746389
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Holy shit, this game's hard and borderline unfair as fuck. Nothing like being within smelling distance of the level's end with 135 health and being one-shotted by a missile mook that looks identical to the generic hitscan cunts.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:15:51 2013 No.746406 >>746389 Look at their pants color. Red = back the fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:20:52 2013 No.746423 File: 114 KB, 1024x768, swp0005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>736602 >Hardest difficulty >sword only >no saves I may try that, except I'll use shurikens too. >trying to kill Coolies with the sword Fuck your shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:22:21 2013 No.746429 >>746406 Doesn't help much when half of the game has red lighting in a dark area.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:24:21 2013 No.746436 >>746429 >half of the game has red lighting in a dark area Yeah, no.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:28:51 2013 No.746447 The steam version has some input lag (~0.25s) that makes it unplayable for me, is there any way to fix this? I've tried messing around with dosbox settings like output mode and vsync, but no dice.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:29:21 2013 No.746450 File: 144 KB, 737x956, SW Weapon Tier.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just finished the game and the expansions. Shit was great.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:32:22 2013 No.746457 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW4QvGMLX3g

Anonymous Fri May 31 12:33:23 2013 No.746459

>>746447
Try using the SWP source port. The one in this link is an older, but more stable version.

The newest version has so problem in that it corrupts your save file when you try to load it.

http://forums.duke4.net/topic/5646-proasm-got-shut-down/page__p__143062#entry143062

NESfag Fri May 31 12:36:21 2013 No.746465

I don't understand why so many of you suck at this game. I think the reason is probably that you haven't played Duke3D enough. In Duke3D it's very easy to learn the patterns of enemies and the best ways to counter them. They made it harder in SW which is a good thing, but I guess it plays better for me because both the developers and me have Duke3D reflexes in mind.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:36:51 2013 No.746464 >>746389 You think this is hard? Play Blood.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:38:21 2013 No.746468 >>746465 Bunch of people who never played a classic fps outside of Doom, probably.

Anonymous Fri May 31 12:53:21 2013 No.746494

>>746465
I've read people complaining that they've run out of ammo. Shit, I kept getting so fucking pissed that I couldn't pick up any more shit when I was playing it, and there are people saying you don't get enough ammo.

Here's a handy hint for newer players; the Grenade Launcher does a shitton of damage, including you. If you see an enemy in a room, run back out and saturate the area with grenades. You'll know if it's dead if you hear a squish (and I swear they coded it so that Lo Wang is more likely to taunt in these circumstances as well)

Also the game is FULL of secret areas, you only need to keep a little eye out for more than enough SUPPLIES.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:00:21 2013 No.746513 >>746494 Only weapons I run out of ammo with are >Uzis Because of those times when I act retarded and use them against Rippers/Guardians >Guardian Head Self explanatory.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:01:52 2013 No.746516 >>746494 I love finding secret areas, glad they kept that from Dook 3D too. I mean, getting ALL areas on any level is madness, but i can always find like 3 or 4.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:03:22 2013 No.746520 >>746513 I run out of ammo with the Uzi all the goddamn time. Twin uzis shit out their full ammo in like 10 seconds.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:10:22 2013 No.746543 I do have to make steam working to play it? Because on my bizzare configuration and means to access web, steam does not work.

Anonymous Fri May 31 13:14:21 2013 No.746553

>>746389
Look for secrets. They are pretty easy to find in Shadow Warrior and a lot of them giving you really helpful items. Hell you can find a fucking nuke in the very first room in stage 1. Also use your sword in weaker enemies. It is best to save your other weapons for the kamikazes and other harder enemies.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:16:51 2013 No.746564 >>746543 You can play it without using Steam. Just go into the game folder to run it instead of starting it up through Steam.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:36:51 2013 No.746653 File: 40 KB, 527x313, shot_130531_203555.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Soon.

>>	NESfag Fri May 31 13:39:21 2013 No.746667 >>746653 lol I remember when Jonof still mattered for Duke3D.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:40:51 2013 No.746671 >>746667 Hey, at least we're gonna get a working port. Found his github https://github.com/jonof/jfsw and things sound good in the readme file (modern OS support, multiplayer).

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:41:51 2013 No.746675 >>746671 >at least we're gonna get a working port SWP works just fine.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:42:21 2013 No.746680 >>746675 No it doesn't. Wonky as fuck mouse aiming (feels delayed and accelerated even with VSync turned off), no OGG support and crashes galore.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:47:21 2013 No.746691 >>746680 >Wonky as fuck mouse aiming No idea what you're talking about. Mouse controls are perfect. >crashes galore See this post >>746459 The latest version is fucked, but this older version works flawlessly. No crashing. No save file corruption.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:48:51 2013 No.746695 File: 84 KB, 500x664, bunny can't believe this shit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > mfw i dropped from the ledges of level 3 > died so hard the game crashed Welp.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:54:51 2013 No.746713 >>746691 Ah, figured the mouse out. I gotta re-enable then disable VSync on each launch. That's kinda shitty.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:58:22 2013 No.746720 How do you get past the part where the guys attack you?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 14:01:22 2013 No.746726 >>746713 Keybind it. CTRL+T is a favorite.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 14:01:51 2013 No.746727 >>746720 Slice at them until they die.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 14:03:21 2013 No.746739 >>746726 Solved it through nVidia's panel, forced it off. Fuck yeah Shadow Warrior here I come.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 14:04:21 2013 No.746743 >>746695 nothing unusual, the game tends to crash after 4-5 deaths

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 14:05:21 2013 No.746747 >>746739 Enjoy your time with Wang.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 15:19:21 2013 No.747013 Can you instal the expansion packs for the steam version? I know they are free, but not sure I can combine them.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 15:30:51 2013 No.747061 >>747013 I don't use the Steam version, so I can't say for sure. When I extract the expansions into my SW folder, it gives a .bat file which starts whatever expansion it's for.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:59:20 2013 No.748410 >>746338 Gas bomb is awesome. Could have done more damage than it did but hucking one into a room and closing the door behind you as the enemy chokes to death is extremely satisfying.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 22:01:21 2013 No.748421 File: 80 KB, 277x269, 1273613575294.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>746450 >dual uzis >not Mr. Woo tier

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 22:06:51 2013 No.748436 >>748410 >extremely satisfying Maybe, but for the sake of time and efficiency you could simply shoot a few grenades in the room and accomplish more; especially since there's grenade launcher ammo fucking everywhere.

Anonymous Fri May 31 22:11:21 2013 No.748450

>>748421
It takes roughly half of the weapon's total ammo to kill most mid to strong enemies. Uzis are great against the weakest Ninjas and Baby Rippers, but other than that it's not all that great.

The Railgun is great against anything, especially Coolie Ghosts and Red/Cloaked Ninjas. The Rocket Launcher for Coolies and pretty much everything. Sword for any melee monster, weak Ninjas, Female Warriors, and Guardians.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 23:01:21 2013 No.748557 File: 20 KB, 320x200, usagi_sw.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Look for secrets. Hellz yeah

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 23:14:51 2013 No.748581 >>736602 >are you ready to be hardcore? >>Hardest difficulty >>sword only >>no saves I tried that but I died as soon as I left the building

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 23:15:21 2013 No.748586 >>748557 > TFW the new Shadow Warrior will not have hentai girls

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 23:21:22 2013 No.748603 File: 34 KB, 447x453, not today.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>748581 >hardest difficulty >sword only >second level >open a door >there's 2 Red Ninjas, 1 Shadow Ninja, and 3 Coolies

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 23:38:22 2013 No.748665 >>748557 In which level is this, so i may find it myself?

Anonymous Fri May 31 23:43:52 2013 No.748679 [SPOILER]

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Was playing today, found a few neat easter eggs/sights. Will spoiler them for the sake of our bros.

So, shareware episode, level 3, a ways into the level, inside the waterfall. This one's kinda impossible to miss, but it's qt, so fuck it.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 23:45:21 2013 No.748687 File: 313 KB, 797x597, shadow warrior killer bunny.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>748679 Shareware episode, level 4, Ripper Valley, duck into the end of the river and out the other side. Best fucking easter egg.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 23:46:21 2013 No.748693 >>748665 Level 18 - Floating Fortress.

Anonymous Fri May 31 23:49:22 2013 No.748710 [SPOILER]

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>>748687
Shareware episode, level 4, into the huge fire cave, jump off the first flying carpet into that area with two Ninjas and explode one of the barrels.

Looks like you've raided your last tomb!

Disappointingly, that's it, but i'll post any others here.

>>748693
Thanks a lot, bro. Still have a ways to go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:09:51 2013 No.748767 >>748450 John Woo dual wields. That's what Lo Wang is talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:17:51 2013 No.748785 File: 2.03 MB, 225x96, 1369011404694.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>748679 Just like the cocooned chicks in Douk 3D--can you kill the women you find in secrets?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:20:51 2013 No.748789 >>748785 Yes, and it's equally pointless. Actually it's probably more of a point because they often shoot you in the face.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:23:51 2013 No.748795

>>748789
Gameplay wise, killing the women in Duke was pointless. But lore(?) wise, they beg you to end their life due to the what's being done to them.

In Shadow Warrior, the women are just eye candy who attack you for speaking to them except Sailor Moon, she gives you items.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:24:52 2013 No.748796 >>748586 I doubt they'll have retro anime anything, let alone hentai. I loved seeing the fake anime posters on walls and such.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:24:52 2013 No.748797 >>748785 >>748795 I didn't try to speak or shoot her. I just left her there on her merry bath. Glad i did, i suppose.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:25:52 2013 No.748798 >>748795 Duke 64 was the exception, in which you could actually rescue them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:26:52 2013 No.748801 >>748797 You may as well talk to them. Then you get to hear Lo Wang's lame come-ons. They only pepper you with uzis anyways. It's worth it as long as you don't do it with no health. Just run away afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:26:52 2013 No.748802 File: 101 KB, 1024x768, swp0031.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>748796 >fake anime posters

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:27:51 2013 No.748805 >>748802 Is that Slayers? You know, I never noticed. I assumed they wouldn't get away with real IP's.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:29:52 2013 No.748809

Shadow Warrior's my favorite of the BILD engine games.
Lo Wang is awesome, the secrets are great, and the gameplay is awesome. Challenging yet fair. Not excessively difficult like Blood or too easy like Duke.

Duke had the better levels and enemies though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:31:52 2013 No.748817 >>748809 The metro levels of Shadow Warrior are pretty great. Are there many like that past the shareware levels?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:32:21 2013 No.748818 File: 106 KB, 1024x768, swp0051.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>748805 Yep. There's others, but Slayers was the only one I could decipher.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:33:52 2013 No.748820 File: 107 KB, 1024x768, swp0050.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>748818

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:35:51 2013 No.748824

I never really played the full Shadow Warrior, first impresions are... not that great.

Even on normal difficulty, the enemies are MASSIVE bullet sponges (they take multiple explosives), and the most common enmies barely flinch, have no wind up and fire hitscan projecticles, a huge no-no for this style of FPS, or indeed, any game. Most weapons have ammo that is far too scarce to use regularly.

Duke 3D (which I still love) made it more than possible to avoid taking damage in most instance, enemies died, or at least flinched, when you shot them and ammo was plentiful.

I really ought to get around to Blood.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:37:21 2013 No.748831 >>748818 >>748820 They probably went ultra obscure with those. I don't recognize them either, then again I was never the authority on anime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:38:21 2013 No.748835 >>748820 Showed this to a friend, apparently the big one is Black Jack, and there's Ranma 1/2 and Katekyo Hitman Reborn on the shelves. Yes, he's a massive weeaboo.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:40:21 2013 No.748840

>>748824
Bullet sponges? Not unless you're trying to kill everything with shurikens. No, you gotta run in with sword, or conserve riot gun or uzi ammo. Those two are the work horse guns in the game. Also use your grenade launcher wisely.

The hitscan ninjas are a piece of cake, you just need to proceed carefully enough to have cover to retreat to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:40:52 2013 No.748843 >>748840 This, pretty much. Running in and out of cover with the katana and taking out the weak ninjas is glorious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:42:51 2013 No.748851 >>748840 That's the thing, it takes a direct hit with the grenade launch to take them out, and they are the only enemy (short of suiciders) that dies to a direct hit. Uzi or riot gun takes forever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:43:21 2013 No.748852 >>748824 As others pointed out, SW enemies aren't really bullet sponges. If you use the wrong weapons on them then some do, like Rippers. Also if you think SW is full of bullet sponges, then you're just going to love Blood.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:43:51 2013 No.748854 >>748851 You are not playing the game on normal difficulty. Because both riot and uzi/dual uzi drop ninjas like nothing. Grenade launcher does too.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:44:51 2013 No.748857

>>748851
Are you playing on hardest and complaining about the difficulty? Because that's the only way i can understand this. Enemies really aren't THAT tough, a general-vicinity-grenade is enough to kill pretty much anything short of a Ripper on difficulty 2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:45:21 2013 No.748861 >>748857 save file says "skill 2". Not sure what's wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:48:52 2013 No.748867 >>748861 Are you using the latest SWP? The latest one's been having issues with save files, but I hadn't heard about difficulty switching.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:50:22 2013 No.748876 >>748867 I didn't even use SWP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:51:22 2013 No.748883 >>748835 >Kateykyo Hitman Reborn It would had to have existed like 6 or 7 years before it was first published, there's no way a manga that started in 2004 would be in Shadow Warrior unless somone at 3D Realms was a time traveler

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:53:51 2013 No.748891 >>748861 I'm... not sure what's wrong either, then. Try turning it off and on again. >>748883 Then he's wrong, i guess.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:57:22 2013 No.748907

>>748824
>the enemies are MASSIVE bullet sponges

Can't say I agree. Most enemies die in 1-3 sword swings, 1-2 seconds of Uzi firing, 1-5 Riot Gun shots, or a single Rocket/Grenade Launcher shot.

>(they take multiple explosives)
One thing to keep in mind is that the Rocket Launcher produces almost no splash damage. It's either a direct hit or bust; which one shots every enemy except Red/Shadow Ninjas, Rippers, and Guardians.

>Most weapons have ammo that is far too scarce to use regularly

This I can say for a fact isn't correct. While the Uzi does chew through ammo, ammo for it and every weapon is extremely plentiful, except for the Guardian Head and Ripper Heart (for good reason too).

How far into the game are you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:11:52 2013 No.748958 >>748818 Wait, fuck. I have seen that anime around 10 years ago. I cannot remember it now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:13:51 2013 No.748965 File: 67 KB, 1024x768, swp0048.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wut

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:14:51 2013 No.748969 >>748965 It's that one robot guy from Streets of Rage 3

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:17:51 2013 No.748978 File: 73 KB, 1024x768, 65853242.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>748969 I guess it could be. It's also Lo Wang's head when you get gibbed.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:38:21 2013 No.749029

Having just played Duke and Blood, Shadow Warrior controls like total shit. Why is this?

And it also has that gameplay element I hate where it makes you unable to not take damage. If I'm shooting at someone, they have so much health that I lose most of my health while they're returning fire. Atleast in Duke and Blood you can kill hitscan enemies quickly or stun them with attacks

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:40:21 2013 No.749037 >>748907 >1-2 seconds of Uzi firing You gotta be playing on the easiest setting or something. On the 3rd difficulty setting they take like 5 seconds of continuous spraying from a few feet away

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:51:22 2013 No.749075 File: 122 KB, 1024x768, swp0055.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>749073 Forgot picture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:51:53 2013 No.749073 >>749037 Higher difficulty doesn't up enemy health. The Uzi tears through weak/grey Ninjas, Baby Rippers, Coolie Ghosts, and Female Warriors in a second.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:55:53 2013 No.749085 >>749073 Tried it again, I think the problem is how random the game is. Like at the start, sometimes that green ogre thing will be there, sometimes not. Sometimes the uzi will kill quickly, sometimes it takes forever

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:56:53 2013 No.749087 >>749085 Sounds like you're in level 5. Did you do the first 4 levels in the Shareware levels first?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:59:52 2013 No.749098 >>748969 Zan? Well he and Lo Wang do look pretty similar.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:59:52 2013 No.749101 >>749087 I'm on level ONE

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 02:00:22 2013 No.749106 >>749101 There are no green guys in level one. Play the shareware episode first, it will ease you into the game easier.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 02:01:52 2013 No.749110

>>749085
I could be mistaken, but I think the Uzi fires both hitscan bullets + projectile bullets. That would explain the inconsistent damage it seems to do.

If you watch the guns while you fire, you can see those big yellow bolts shooting out of it, which travel through the game world instead of instantly striking wherever you are firing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 02:03:23 2013 No.749114 >>749110 Tracer rounds. Not sure if they're an actual projectile or not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 02:03:23 2013 No.749115 >>749101 see >>749106 The "green guys" don't appear in the first 4 levels of the game, which are part of the shareware episode. Do those first then go into the full version episode.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 02:21:53 2013 No.749153 I heard that the Shadow Warrior on steam now is going to be later engine to run it on that will be more like what is used in Duke Nukem 3D Megaton Edition, anyone able to verify or debunk this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 02:22:53 2013 No.749156 I heard that the Shadow Warrior on steam now is going to be updated later with an engine to run it on that will be more like what is used in Duke Nukem 3D Megaton Edition, anyone able to verify or debunk this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 02:26:52 2013 No.749167 >>749156 Where did you even hear that? I'm not even sure what engine this Megaton edition runs on.

>>	NESfag Sat Jun 1 03:39:53 2013 No.749309 >>749167 Duke3D megaton uses Jonof. There is also a (buggy) port of SW made by Jonof but he said that he'd pick it up again >>746653

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 04:22:53 2013 No.749389 >>749309 >NESfag As in Ness from SurvivalHorror? If so, sup dude, long time

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 08:03:22 2013 No.749723 Steam, online multiplayer ...p-please

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 11:13:22 2013 No.750215 >>736882 all the old id games do it too

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 12:07:52 2013 No.750319 How the fuck can I play this Steam version with SWP?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 12:16:52 2013 No.750343 File: 20 KB, 584x590, ancient chinese secret.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>750319 You don't. It's the deal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 12:18:23 2013 No.750348 >>750343 > not 'ancient chinese sheecret'

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 12:28:23 2013 No.750375 >>750343 >>750348 >not 'big trick in little china'

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:01:52 2013 No.752980 >>748421 >>748450 >>748767 Cowabunga Tier should be Mr. Woo Tier and Mr. Woo Tier should be Good-day-to-die Tier. Then it would be all matched.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:31:22 2013 No.753097 File: 144 KB, 737x956, SW Weapon Tier02.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>752980

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:35:22 2013 No.753115

>>749029

It had an insanely hectic development (started literally a year before they were even thinking of the initial concepts of lameduke) and went through like 4 revisions (and 3 versions of the BUILD engine) over the course of its development

Oh and when they finally had their minds set on what the game was going to be like it was rushed all to hell and pretty much completed within like 3/4 of a year or so

They just really didn't take the time to gauge and test everything to its fullest extent, and it really shows; buts its still an okay game

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:54:25 2013 No.753216 >>753115 heres a nice little link to the previous incarnation of what shadow warrior was shaping up to be before the last minute flip they did http://web.archive.org/web/19961023024832/3drealms.com/catalog/sw/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:03:22 2013 No.753257 File: 133 KB, 640x400, sw16.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>753216 Holy shit, why couldn't this have made it to the final build? Would've been better than that shitty sumo boss.

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:06:52 2013 No.753270
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>>753257

one of my favorite images was this one, I mean just looks so damn out there in comparison to how the final game came out

But alas, these builds and maps are most likely lost to the ages, or in Joe Sieglers Betas/alphas folder (and we'll probably never see them because Joe hasn't really ever released anything but a couple snapshots of these folders)

There was also a beta build leaked for the game, but its pretty much identical to the final product aside from some minor weapon issues, and map setups

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:14:53 2013 No.753303
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>>753270

There was also some weird stuff put in with a couple of the old previews for shadow warrior, which highly suggests that the initial first version of shadow warrior ended up becoming the game legend of the seven paladins, or vice versa

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:15:22 2013 No.753306 File: 32 KB, 320x200, SW02.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>753303 sorry for these small resolutions, but this was pretty much what I had to work with when converting some old shadow warrior preview images

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:16:52 2013 No.753315 >>753270 Lost like the source code to strife. Bah.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:19:22 2013 No.753328 >>753270 >dat minigun Wonder if I can recreate it using that image as a base.

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:22:52 2013 No.753346
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>>753315

yeah, its really unfortunate that game devs don't really want to release early alphas and betas of games for their pure historic value

I wish they weren't so damn uptight about stuff like that

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:26:22 2013 No.753367 [DELETED]

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>>753346

for even more cool stuff you can take a look at this dudes site, he did some decompiling and digging within the leaked sw beta, and found some pretty neat stuff out of there too, like the two topless girls in the texture files (for some reason)

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:27:53 2013 No.753371
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>>753346

for even more cool stuff you can take a look at this dudes site, he did some decompiling and digging within the leaked sw beta, and found some pretty neat stuff out of there too, like the two topless girls in the texture files (for some reason)

http://hendricks266.duke4.net/swbeta_art.php

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:32:23 2013 No.753390 >>738728 It was a marketing move. Get everyone to hate New Coke so they'll buy more old Coke.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 02:30:23 2013 No.753819 >>753328 Looks like the riot gun to me. If you wanted to animate the riot gun as a minigun, probably wouldn't be very hard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 02:40:53 2013 No.753846 File: 23 KB, 510x546, 1317148210948.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>753371 >(for some reason) As if they needed a reason.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 02:45:24 2013 No.753856 >>753371 Fun fact, that early Lara Croft sprite is the version that shows up in the shareware edition, but not in the full game. They replaced it with one that looks quite a bit more like the model for her actual games. The one up here: >>748710

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 02:57:23 2013 No.753883 >>753097 Hah! We call you mistah fixit! ...though presumably you also made the original. Excellent.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 12:25:53 2013 No.754953 So this game has secret levels. Any reward for completing those or is just playing them reward in itself?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 14:53:54 2013 No.755626 >>744017 Fuck, thank god that shit ended.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 14:58:24 2013 No.755649 >>746464 Different anon, but holy fuck, Blood does not fuck around, not in the goddamn slightest, that game is out to fucking rape you in the dick. So much fucking saving and loading.

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 15:03:24 2013 No.755673
File: 105 KB, 800x478, Lara Croft.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>753856
Found a comparison image on someone's Deviantart. Here's what he says about it:

Many might remember that in the 4th level of Shadow Warrior it was possible to find Lara Croft in some hidden dungeon ("It seems she raided her last tomb!", is what Lo Wang would say when finding her), what many don't know is the fact this cameo suffered several modifications during the development process, making her look more anime-like in the earliest Shareware versions, and looking more pre-rendered 3D in the last Shareware and Full versions. The images with pink background were extracted directly from the game tiles, while the other image is an in-game screenshot.

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