/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7364580]

Half-life, UT99, Goldeneye, Deus Ex. That covers the gameplay range you need. If you disagree you're too young, old, a fag, dork or weeb.

[Anonymous No.7364590]

doom doesn't really fit into any of those categories, although I suppose you could consider it a middle ground between HL and goldeneye

[Anonymous No.7364626]

>putting a console baby FPS in the same sentence as Deus Ex and Unreal Tournament

[Anonymous No.7364632]

>>7364580
>reeEEeeEE only play my favorite games or you're a... you're a.... POOPOODOODOFACE!!!

[Anonymous No.7364642]

>>7364580
>If you disagree you're too young, old, a fag, dork or weeb.
Sounds like you are really afraid of getting any kind of dissent. Grow some balls, faggot.

[Anonymous No.7364667]

Goldeneye is outdated shit

>>7364626
this

[Anonymous No.7364673]

>>7364580
Shut up bitch

[Anonymous No.7364707]

>>7364580

...and you started your thread by posting a screenshot of Make Random Things Shiny And Too Dark: Source? Go away, poser.

[Anonymous No.7364769]

>>7364626
>>7364667
Show me the part of deus ex where you can shoot a guy in the hand or ass and have him react with a flawlessly fluid animation of pain in that specific area

[Anonymous No.7364773]

>>7364707
>Make Random Things Shiny And Too Dark: Source?
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.7364941]

>>7364769
that's nice anon but the game is still a shitty console shooter that runs at 10 fps.

[Anonymous No.7364951]

>>7364580
all shit, all fps, all amerigarbage games for retards.

[Anonymous No.7364952]

>>7364941
>only high speed pc twitching is gaming
the thing is that you're just confirming the OP
>a dork

[Anonymous No.7364956]

>>7364951
>a weeb

[Anonymous No.7364958]

>>7364952
that's not what I said though. Why would you make up things I said and then argue with the thing you made up?

[Anonymous No.7365270]

>>7364958
You complained about the low fps in the console which doesn't ruin the gameplay at all. Then speed in a PC is what you want

[Anonymous No.7365286]

>>7364626
>>7364667
Show me the part of deus ex where you can shoot a guy's hat out of his head while he is shitting and he won't get hurt

[Anonymous No.7365323]

>>7365286
theres a part where the matrix meme man says a meme thing about politics and corporations bad, it was amazing

[Anonymous No.7365348]

>>7365323
>the matrix meme man
oh damn that is why he's black lol

[Anonymous No.7365376]

>clown-life and goldeneye surreptitiously trying to ride the coattails of actual good games
Pathetic. Nice try but pathetic.

[Anonymous No.7365395]

>>7365376
hi alf

[Anonymous No.7365567]

>>7365323
Politics and Corporation are the reason why you are a retard slave calling them a meme.

[Anonymous No.7365569]

>>7365376
>deus ex
>good

[Anonymous No.7365580]

>>7365567
based meme man we live in a society system of a down fuck the system

[Anonymous No.7365601]

>>7365376
Goldeneye is the only good game on that list.

[Anonymous No.7365616]

Goldeneye and Deus Ex fans hate each other. Because both games are from rival platforms and different genre

[Anonymous No.7365638]

>>7364580
VGS
VGS
VGTG

[Anonymous No.7365641]

>>7365616
But it was one of deus ex influences

[Anonymous No.7365649]

>>7364580
I never played GoldenEye, and I only played UT99 on my brother's computer (but I divulged the shit out of UT2K4 when it came out).

[Anonymous No.7365674]

>>7364707
>>7364773
i guess he is (incorrectly) assuming OP pic is from black mesa and not original goldsrc hl1

[Anonymous No.7365693]

>>7365286
>goldeneyefags bringing up some gimmick interactions in a bathroom to distract from the terrible gameplay

[Anonymous No.7365780]

>>7365649
divulged?

[Anonymous No.7365784]

op sounds unhinged

[Anonymous No.7365785]

>>7364707
>>7365674
Huh. Ok so guy, I'm interested why you thought the pic wasn't from basic hl1? Looks too good?

[Anonymous No.7365828]

>>7364580
there's only one problem with hl, which amazingly goldeneye suffers from also: Purple rocks.
I guess quake made people so wary of brown they overdid it and even actual brown things were too triggering to be shown as brown

[Anonymous No.7365834]

>>7365828

[Anonymous No.7365926]

>>7365780
Yes, and I've been on the FBI database since. Still can't fly out of the country. :(

[Anonymous No.7365939]

>>7365270
>low fps doesn't ruin gameplay.

[Anonymous No.7366191]

>>7365834
And there's a map in multiplayer called caves which has rock colored rock so its' not some technical thing

[Anonymous No.7366213]

>>7364580
Were there ACTUAL people who were playing UT instead of Quake 3? I heard tales but never met a single person who wanted to play that overshadowed game.

[Anonymous No.7366220]

How about System Shock 2, or perhaps Starsiege: Tribes?

[Anonymous No.7366227]

>>7365616
>N64 was a rival platform to PC for shooters, in fucking 1999
I cannot stop laughing, this is without a doubt the funniest thing ever said on /vr/.

[Anonymous No.7366237]

>>7365939
By posting an image like that you automatically lose every possible argument.

Goldeneye is a wonderful game and only autists who don't even like playing videogames care about fps.

Also you're a fucking RETARD. Kill yourself.

Low fps doesn't "ruin" or even damage gameplay. I'll say it straight to your fucking face bitch and I'll smack you until you agree with it cause you're a fucking retard.

Sometimes low fps can make games less good, but everything comes together really well in Goldeneye and is rarely below 10fps anyway.

[Anonymous No.7366251]

10 fps is the lowest recorded framerate on Goldeneye. That guy is a nigger that doesn't understand anything.

[Anonymous No.7366262]

>>7366237
>and only autists who don't even like playing videogames care about fps.
Before I'm stupidly misinterpreted when I say this I am obviously talking about comparing games based on their fps, I am not talking about caring that your fps rate on a PC game is where it should be. I obviously have to clarify that and idiot-proof my posts considering where we are.

[Anonymous No.7366298]

>>7366237
Low fps absolutely ruins gameplay, hence why perfect dark was such a disappointment. It's just unplayable on some levels.
But the framerate in GE was fine in almost all situations.

[Anonymous No.7366301]

>>7366237
By using reddit spacing, you automatically lose at life.
>Goldeneye is a wonderful game
Even by the standards of the day it was pitiful. I should know, I had a PC and an N64 at the time.
>Low fps doesn't "ruin" or even damage gameplay
For some kinds of games, it doesn't matter at all. FPS is one genre where framerate absolutely does matter, especially for multiplayer. Only a complete retard would say otherwise.

[Anonymous No.7366354]

>>7366237
Based Face Ball 2000 Game Boy chad defending only the slowest slideshows around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29BeTsp4_A8

[Anonymous No.7366478]

>>7366213
i played both. i preferred ut99 as a kid, there were more gamemodes and the maps were cooler

[Anonymous No.7366491]

>>7366213
UT didn't really hit its stride until 2k3

[Anonymous No.7366497]

>>7364941
Even less if you set off an explosive, launch a rocket, or for some goddamn reason, shoot a chair.

Also the fact that you can't even see the other side of the room because of the fog needs to be considered.

Oh and the multiplayer is terrible, in no small part to the issues above and because you know exactly where your opponents are even without screen-looking thanks to the 'helpful' radar.

>>7364952
Technical considerations that affect gameplay are actual flaws. Learn the difference between opinions and facts sometime, dear.

[Anonymous No.7366523]

>>7366497
>Also the fact that you can't even see the other side of the room because of the fog
this is bullshit and i was going to chide you for straight up lying because even disengenious shitposting should make an art of being misleading not just lies
But then i see there is some p.o.s. emulator out there that apparently adds way more fog. maybe you saw that

[Anonymous No.7366623]

>>7366491
>UT didn't really hit its stride until 2k3

For me I spent more time with UT99 than UT2k3. UT2k4 added onslaught which was a game mode that I really became addicted too.

[Anonymous No.7366657]

>HL is narrative
>UT99 is for deathmatch
>Deus Ex is for player freedom
>Goldeneye is ???
Because it was the first game you ever played?
Everything Goldeneye did, Perfect Dark did better.

[Anonymous No.7366660]

>>7364580
I like how you can always tell if someone is a 300 IQ chad or an 80 IQ potato nigger by whether or not they like Quake 3 or UT99 respectively.

[Anonymous No.7366662]

>>7366657
>Everything Goldeneye did, Perfect Dark did better.
Anything either of those games did was done infinitely better by PC FPS games of its day.

[Anonymous No.7366680]

Console FPS's are a meme.

[Anonymous No.7366698]

>>7366680
>FPS's are a meme.
fixed

[Anonymous No.7366776]

>>7366657
>Perfect Dark did better.
no, i mean we just had this thread, but pd is an unsatisfying bloated degradation of ge.
>we need to put 'twists' on things from ge because we need this to seem like a new game
>goldeneye: guns go blam
>perfect dark: oh i know - guns go sisss

[Anonymous No.7366869]

>>7364590
>>7366213
>>7366660
Sorry, iDshit is not included because those are games for a little kid
>ooh wah it's HELL woahh no! you're getting chased by scary Deeemons, wooo! watch out for the demon
that stuff is too cliche "video game" for an adult to play

[Anonymous No.7366882]

>>7364580

Needs more Halo

[Anonymous No.7366892]

>>7366882
kys zoomer

[Anonymous No.7366903]

On the subject of Half-Life

The Half-Life in the DOS-WIN MEGA Games, is there any way to restore the models back to their original? I absolutely hate these.

[Anonymous No.7366905]

>>7366903
attaching images is difficult

[Anonymous No.7366928]

>>7366905
haha what the fuck
>fleeman, my handse disgtingu

[Anonymous No.7366931]

>>7366882
kill yourself i'm serious.
>shooting fucking bugs because mommy won't like little timmy shooting men
and you bought into it

[Anonymous No.7366950]

>>7366931

Sorry it's not edgy enough for you. Sounds like you've got a lot of growing up ahead of you

[Anonymous No.7367115]

>>7364580
I would like to add some Perfect Dark, just to add a little bit of silliness

[Anonymous No.7367635]

>>7364580
Remove HL, Goldeneye and Deus Ex and add NOLF and Serious Sam to actually get some decent FPS gameplay range.
Yes, they are slightly newer. They are also easily better games than HL and Goldeneye at least. If I had to add older games to the list, I'd add Marathon and Descent or some Build Engine game, I guess. Maybe Powerslave (Saturn), if console representation is really needed.

[Anonymous No.7367640]

>>7364580
>Forgetting Quake II

[Anonymous No.7367685]

>>7366931
bruh shooting the aliens in halo is fun. you stick them with grenades and they run around like dwarves, it's hilarious. of all the fucking things to complain about

[Anonymous No.7367701]

>>7364580
Goldeneye is out of place among those, not because it's console, but rather because it belongs to an earlier generation of FPS than the others. It's from the Quake 1/2 early 3D generation, while the others belong to the early GPU generation.

[Anonymous No.7368294]

>>7364580
This but with quake 3 instead of ut.

[Anonymous No.7368487]

>>7364580
Thief covers what Goldeneye aimed to do way better. That might seem like a confusing comparison but they're both open ended multi-objective games only Thief is much more detailed and enjoyable while Goldeneye feels like walking around an empty hedge maze. It's shooting is nothing special either, you're better off playing Perfect Dark on the 360.

[Anonymous No.7368516]

>>7368487
well thief was influenced by it.
At least the objective thing.

[Anonymous No.7368659]

>>7365286
show me the part of goldeneye that has good gameplay

[Anonymous No.7369078]

>>7368516
Yes that's why I made that comparison, Looking Glass was inspired by GoldenEye for it's objective design which is why there is merit in comparing them. They're both games where defeating enemies isn't critical to competing objectives or levels, but one leans harder into stealth than the other. I would say GoldenEye's influence is better than the actual game.

[Anonymous No.7369797]

>>7367635
>NOLF
Based.

[Anonymous No.7370967]

>>7369078
>Looking Glass was inspired by GoldenEye for it's objective design which is why there is merit in comparing them
The only thing that Looking Glass took from Goldeneye was different difficulty settings having different objectives.
That's literally it.
You're grasping at straws.

[Anonymous No.7371000]

>>7364580
>if you don't play these 4 first person games only, you're a buzzword

OP was a faggot, nothing unusual.

[Anonymous No.7371023]

>>7370967
Nah.

[Anonymous No.7371060]

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[Anonymous No.7371070]

>>7371023
What else did it influence?

[Anonymous No.7371074]

>>7366869
>thinks DooM's appeal is the plot and not the well balanced cast of enemies and weapons, creating a game that is both simple as hell (ha) and more dynamic than many modern games
Have you ever even got through E1M1 on ultraviolence? Or are you too much of a babby?

>>7364580
If you are going to be an atmospheric story fag with your list at least include SS2

[Anonymous No.7371128]

>>7364580
But if you agree you're a sissy gaylord faggot.

[Anonymous No.7371618]

>>7366869
The funny thing about this post is how it's partially correct, but for all the wrong reasons.
>>7371074
Doom enemies are whatever, weapons balance is fine (unless you include Doom 2, where SS fucks it up) and level design sucks after the first episode.
Also SS2 isn't that good of a game.

[Anonymous No.7373930]

>>7371070
Not that much unfortunately, objective based action games didn't really take off like other genres.

[Anonymous No.7374887]

>>7364580
half life has to be the most overrated video game ever.

[Anonymous No.7374984]

>>7374887
Why did they do it? purple mesas i mean

[Anonymous No.7375559]

>GUYSSSS PC FPS IS WHERE ITS AT EVEN THOUGH ALL PC FPS GET PORTED TO CONSOLES AND ARE COMPLETELY PLAYABLE ANYWAY WHILE CONSOLE FPS MOSTLY STAY EXCLUSIVE PFFFHAHA WE DONT WANT THOSE PLEB CONSOLEFAG SHOOTERS!!!

[Anonymous No.7376824]

>>7374887
ok alf

[Anonymous No.7376841]

>>7375559
>console fps
>complete playable
zoom zoom.
>WE DONT WANT THOSE PLEB CONSOLEFAG SHOOTERS!!!
We literally don't.
There's a reason why we call Halo "Gaylo."

[Anonymous No.7376852]

>>7374984
Either palette limitations or eyeballing the colors from a reference picture with not entirely correct colors

[Anonymous No.7376917]

>>7364580
switch Goldeneye for the vastly superior Perfect Dark and trade UT99 for either Duke 3D or Quake 1

[Anonymous No.7376923]

>>7374887
nah that's Half-Life 2, Half-Life 1 is actually fun

[Anonymous No.7377140]

>>7366882
ignoring the underage retards who replied to you, Halo is a descendant of Quake and UT mostly, I wouldn't call it unique enough to be it's own founding category

[Anonymous No.7377153]

>>7366882
Halo is the most generic, boring, uninspired looking early 00s sci-fi schlock I can think of.

[Anonymous No.7377156]

>>7364580
>starsiege tribes
So revolutionary I am forgotten

[Anonymous No.7378487]

>>7376917
duke 3d maybe, quake no. game needs to have some part set on earth to be anything except kiddie cringe.
perfect dark is like, lets take half of goldeneye and then stick alien cringe as the second half.
you think zen is bad? imagine if it was 2/3 of the game

[Anonymous No.7378496]

>>7377156
I remember anon. I remember.

[Anonymous No.7378736]

>>7377153
the nickelback of games

[Anonymous No.7378761]

>>7366869
woah edgy are you applying for a 90s game magazine writer job?

[Anonymous No.7378878]

>>7378761
>90s game magazine writer
didn't they worship idshit. It seems like you're mixing up it's own edginess with mocking it

[Anonymous No.7378884]

>>7378878
*id's own

[Anonymous No.7381112]

>>7366220
>Starsiege: Tribes
holy shit how could i forget this. so good

[Anonymous No.7381127]

>>7364580
>UT
>consoleshit
the furries and bronies of gamers.

[Anonymous No.7381131]

>>7381127
>calling UT furries and bronies
read the file name

[Anonymous No.7381771]

>>7381127
imagine being too smooth-brained to enjoy unreal tournament

[Anonymous No.7381781]

>>7381127
N

[Anonymous No.7381812]

>>7381127
>the furries and bronies of gamers
fag

[Anonymous No.7381952]

>>7376923
completely the opposite

[Anonymous No.7383674]

>>7381771
fuck off mate, there's nothing leftist about UT