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6524001 No.6524001 [Reply] [Original]

They were better than Capcom.
Sorry not sorry.

>> No.6524007

Wow, so controversial and daring.

>> No.6524008

>>6524001
I disagree, but Capcom and Konami were tied for the absolute top tier 3rd party home console developers during retro years.

>> No.6524009

>>6524001
At least Capcom is still making Mega Man. It really sucks that Konami pretty much gave up on Castlevania and Silent Hill entirely

>> No.6524012

>>6524009
Fuck them for making sensible financial decisions.

>> No.6524017

>>6524012
>Implying that the armies of fanboys wouldn't flock to purchase the next Castlevania/Silent Hill
A surprising amount of zoomers really like Castlevania.
Unfortunately, if they were to make a new one, it would be a metroidvania because that's the kind of dogshit that sells these days

>> No.6524025

>>6524012
>being a literal bootlicker
Yikes

>> No.6524037

>>6524012
they pump yugioh and pachinko ruthlessly, they're not hurting for money at all

>> No.6524040

>>6524025
>thinking of business companies like they are real people
Just saying this dumb konami hatred meme was started by Jim Sterling because they pulled his review or some shit.

>> No.6524043

>>6524017
I don't think it would be metroidvania since they were already heading the third person tlou god of war sad dad simulator route with Lords of Shadow.
You'd probably be Dracula babysitting a young bisexual Alucard while he teaches you the importance of respecting all women and open borders for mass demon immigration or some crap.

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6524082

>>6524001
Konami made better shmups, but Capcom made far better platformers and fighters/bmups.

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>>6524082
Nothing Capcom made surpasses Castlevania

>> No.6524087

>>6524082
Konami made Rocket Knight Adventures

>> No.6524138

But nothing is better than Capcom and SNK.

>> No.6524453

>>6524082
Well Konami didn't really make any relevant fighters anyway so there's not much competition there.
Beat-em-ups though? Konami stomps. Bayou Billy, NES/SNES Batman Returns, most of the TMNT games, The Simpsons, X-Men? Peak beat-em-up and peak soulful. All Capcom has that's retro is Final Fight and Cadillacs and Dinosaurs. None of this matters anyways because neither company made Streets of Rage.
Mega Man has *this* much (the slightest molecular bit of space between my fingers as I hold them together) over Classicvania but I still like CV more.
Contra shits on Ghosts n' Goblins.
Silent Hill is superior to Resident Evil.
Suikoden is better than Breath of Fire.
There is no Capcom equivalent for Metal Gear Solid.

>> No.6524457

>>6524138
laughs in Konami and Sega

>> No.6524526

>>6524001
No

>> No.6524603

>>6524526
Yes

>> No.6524938

>>6524007
You'd be surprised. Capcom is almost as fanboyed as Nintendo.

>> No.6524961

>>6524453
Konami beat em ups are, for the most part, shit. The best ones like Metamorphic Force and Violent Storm are just ripping off Capcom's formula. The TMNT games are some of the worst games in their genre, with mediocre console ports. Capcom has Final Fight, Cadillacs & Dinosaurs, Alien vs Predator, Captain Commando, Punisher, D&D games, Knights of the Round, King of Dragons, Warriors of Fate, Armored Warriors and Battle Circuit. Their entire arcade output is so consistently great that you could completely ignore all other beat 'em ups and be fully satisfied. That's not going into how they pioneered both the 90's beat 'em up formula with Final Fight AND the modern 3D beat 'em up formula with games like DMC.
>Silent Hill is superior to Resident Evil.
This meme needs to go. Resident Evil has actually good gameplay and design worth looking at, the only good thing about SH is the audiovisuals and general atmosphere. The gameplay is beyond dogshit. RE1 had nonlinear exploration with well implemented resource management, later games had a ton of extra modes/difficulties that were so fun they became the main draw, the games were always tightly designed and replayable. They are enjoyable even if you don't like horror, because they are good games first and foremost.
>GnG vs Contra
Weird comparison, I'd say GnG is better but they are so different that they're hard to compare. Commando is better than the early Contras though, and Gun.Smoke is better than all Contra games put together.

>> No.6524972

Nah. Konami has more good shoot em ups and run n guns but that's mainly because Capcom wasn't that interested in either genre. The shoot em ups they did put out like 19XX, Varth and Eco Fighters were top notch. They also published Progear. When it comes to genres that both companies focused on, Capcom blew Konami the fuck out every time. And many well known later Konami series are movieshit with bad or minimal gameplay

>> No.6524976

>>6524972
again, I'm laughing in Silent Hill and Castlevania

>> No.6524982

>>6524976
Ah yes Silent Hill, well known for its top notch gameplay. Castlevania is really good but I'd take Makaimura and its spinoffs over it any day

>> No.6525061

>>6524001
in the 90s? yes, after 2000s not.

>> No.6525618

>>6524453
>There is no Capcom equivalent for Metal Gear Solid.
Pirate Ship Higemaru / Goof Troop

>> No.6525637
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6525637

They were better than Trashure.
Sorry not sorry.

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6525694

>>6525637
Based.

>> No.6525752

>>6525637
Treasure made Alien Soldier and Sin & Punishment though.

>> No.6525758

>>6525752
>Alien Soldier
Inferior to Contra.

>Sin & Punishment
Inferior to G.I. Joe.

>> No.6525759

>>6525758
>Inferior to Contra.
They're not really the same kind of game, Alien Soldier is just a straight up boss rush.
>Inferior to G.I. Joe.
Come on now.

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>>6525694
WORDFILTER?

>> No.6525916

>>6525618
>obscuro central and licensed shit
Yeah, I'm thinking this one goes to Konami

>> No.6526115

>>6524001
I actually agree.

Konami has Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill, the best beat-em ups(Batman Returns, TMNT), Castlevania and so many other great titles.

The only thing Capcom has, is Resident Evil and a ton of fighting games.

>> No.6526150

>>6525916
>calling one of Shinji Mikami's early masterpieces "licensed shit"
lol konami babbys

>> No.6526151

>>6524453
>None of this matters anyways because neither company made Streets of Rage.

learn how to 1cc arcade bmups and you'll never be able to go back to shites of rage and will see all its abysmal flaws, the only thing good about it is the music. It's clunky, overlong, eats inputs on higher modes, has absolutely no balancing so they just chucked lives at you like candy to get around it on higher difficulties, and teaches you bad habits whilst starving you of having to learn proper skills which are necessary to 1cc arcade bmups. It's passable by console standards and nothing more, can't hold a candle to the top 15 arcade bmups.

>> No.6526239

>>6524008
This
80s-early 2000s they were untouchable

>> No.6526292

Smells like /v/.

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6526357

>>6524037
>tfw a new Tag Force never

>> No.6526603

Square>Konami>Capcom

I don't care about fighting games at all

>> No.6526696

>>6526150
>lol konami babbys
Seethe more. Poof Poop is nowhere near the same scope as MGS. If you were arguing against NES Metal Gear, then you'd have had a point.

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6526703

>Its another thing better than thing thread

>> No.6526705

>>6526603
Based. Fighting games fucking suck. All of tham
They hardly have any substance and all of their "depth" comes from needlessly complex button combos.

>> No.6526782

>>6526705
Shame they killed off a much superior genre, the belt-scrolling beat 'em up, due to their popularity.

>> No.6527659

>>6526703
I care, because a lot of people think otherwise and they are wrong.

>> No.6527662

>>6524961
>the only good thing about SH is the audiovisuals and general atmosphere.
which is kinda sorta the most important fucking thing in a horror game

>> No.6527754

>>6527662
This attitude is why horror games went to shit. If you want to stick with it and relegate the horror genre into b tier forever then fine, that just means RE is a good game period while SH is "good for a horror game"

>> No.6527772

>>6524017
straight old school style games do not sell for AAA prices, or even middleware (30-40$) prices anymore, if you want to sell a straight old school style game, you have to go indie prices

shantae barely gets away at a 30$ price point (the new game is still too new, but it also lacks any sale price points so its all I can go by) but its also not a strictly old school game, its a partial metroidvania.

a 2d metroidvania would be a financial risk at a higher price point, a 3d castlevania would likely be dark souls like if made today, I think that format would greatly lend itself to the castlevania theme.

my understanding, kojima completely fucked the company, and they haven't had a single mass hit to give the coffers to take a risk in a long time

>> No.6527812

I thought like that before I really tried capcoms arcade offerings. They dominated the beat em up and the shooter.

>> No.6527841

>>6524453
>Suikoden better than BoF
Sure buddy, just don't forget to take your daily pills

>> No.6528612

>>6524001
>They were better than Capcom
And Nintendo was better than Sega.
Any other news?

>> No.6528638

>>6527841
>BoF better than Suikoden
Don't you have some diaper scaly porn to jack off to?

>> No.6529879

>>6528638
Yes sorry I'll go back to eka's portal now

>> No.6529923

>>6524001
Konami made more shovelware games and games that aged poorly so I dunno OP

>> No.6530846

>>6529923
>games that aged poorly
Name 10 games that did this

>> No.6530859

>>6524001
On home consoles, debatable though I would agree yes

In arcades, fuck no.