/vr/ - Retro Games

[/CRT/ Thread again No.6514953]

Old thread's gone.
Take pictures and argue about inconsequential bullshit.

[Anonymous No.6514958]

[Anonymous No.6514963]

>>6514958
kys.

[/CRT/ Thread again No.6514968]

[Anonymous No.6514973]

Fuck, that was the name field, not the title field. I fucked up guys.

[Anonymous No.6514974]

[Anonymous No.6514987]

>>6514953
>argue about inconsequential bullshit

That's the whole point of this board.

[Anonymous No.6515284]

[Anonymous No.6515290]

>>6515284
GBA is retro now?

[Anonymous No.6515323]

>>6515290
No

[Anonymous No.6515339]

What’s the best shader currently? I have a pretty beefy computer rig that should be able to handle anything I throw at it but I have no interest in owning an actual meme tv.

[Anonymous No.6515343]

>>6514953
>left
soul

>right
soulless

[Anonymous No.6515405]

>>6515339
CRT-Zoom-NoSoul should pair well with pretty much any LCD display

[Anonymous No.6515451]

>>6514973
>I fucked up guys.
you had one job, you fucking gigantic mongo.

[Anonymous No.6515489]

>>6514987
So Xenogears IS shit?

[Anonymous No.6515492]

>>6515343
>left
Can't see shit, captain

>right
Finally, some good fucking picture

[Anonymous No.6515506]

>>6514987
The typical /vr/ poster is only vaguely interested in games. They're really just here to either validate their own nostalgia or to try and experience an era that had passed before they were old enough to experience it. That's why they get so offended at someone else playing a game in a way they don't think the "developers intended" The actual game in question is in many ways ancillary.

[Anonymous No.6516085]

are there any brands that made decent CRTs in the 16"-22" range? I see lots of sony, JVC, panasonic, but it's always 27" or bigger which is just too big for my living space

[Anonymous No.6516086]

>>6514953
>scanlines

[Anonymous No.6516087]

>>6515343

[Anonymous No.6516793]

>>6514953
Fuck qualitylets I'm going to buy a bargain basement Goldstar from the 70s for my games, catch me on channel 3 losers

[Anonymous No.6516925]

>>6516087

[Anonymous No.6517096]

[Anonymous No.6517101]

>>6517096
>King turn from a monkey to a nigger.
Like poetry.

[Anonymous No.6517109]

>>6516085
Sony made excellent 21" TVs.
I have a Philips 21" that is also nice, but Trinitrons are on another level.

[Anonymous No.6517237]

>another /crt/ with shit-tier OP
>subject in name-field
why bother when you obviously don't care?

[Anonymous No.6517335]

CRTs are for cool dudes

[Kya !kDashing02 No.6517339]

uwu

[Anonymous No.6517341]

[Anonymous No.6517348]

>>6517339
a weird canadian told me to tell you ur gae

[Anonymous No.6517350]

whoops, wrong image...

[Anonymous No.6517352]

help me

[Anonymous No.6517353]

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[Anonymous No.6517368]

>>6517339

[Anonymous No.6517369]

>>6517368
nice crt, faggot. get a fucking pvm.

[Anonymous No.6517372]

>>6517369
u too cutie

[Anonymous No.6517375]

>>6517372
not retro and yiff in hell, furfag

[RoboyZ4Chaner No.6517380]

[Anonymous No.6517385]

[Anonymous No.6517387]

[Anonymous No.6517958]

recently picked up this toshiba 27“ with component and s-video for $20 off of craigslist

[Anonymous No.6517961]

>>6517958
Looks nice. A Series?

[Anonymous No.6518019]

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[Anonymous No.6518028]

[Anonymous No.6518030]

[Anonymous No.6518032]

[Anonymous No.6518120]

>>6518019
Damn the bridge is already impressive without scanlines but here it straight up looks like a 3D model.

[Anonymous No.6518126]

Why do some people refuse to admit this is how retro vidya is meant to be played? They get really anal about it too.

[Anonymous No.6518140]

>>6517961
I think so? Model 27A41

[Anonymous No.6518348]

>>6518032
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6518354]

So I recently got a JVC I'Art in great condition, but I think I now understand why people dislike flat screens.
The image near the center of the screen is bright and crisp, but at the edges, the image gets stretched out and blurry. When the screen scrolls, the effect is that stuff gets larger and smaller as it crosses the screen. I assume this is just a problem with all flat screens?

[Anonymous No.6518404]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmtmWk3puGg&list=LLm03lBVu1M3FkhkoNm2KBTg&index=24&t=0s

[Anonymous No.6518418]

>>6518348
Yeah, this meme ain't doin' it for me. Sorry /v/.

[Anonymous No.6518582]

>>6516793
>Fuck qualitylets I'm going to buy a bargain basement Goldstar from the 70s for my games, catch me on channel 3 losers
OK, have fun with that
>>6516086
No one should care about scanlines. Horizontal resolution is the only concern I have when comparing two sets with the same inputs.
>>6515339
>What’s the best shader currently
The one where you don't use a shader or just apply a 4:3 aspect ratio stretch and nothing else.
>>6517096
That's a lot of bleeding. Is your cable incredibly long or something? Usually I only see that with a bad ground or really long cables.
>>6517237
I said I was sorry.
>>6518140
I have a 27A42, they're pretty decent.
Mine had some annoying geometry issues because it was a "short" tube, but other than that it's probably one of the nicest curved sets you can get outside of pro-land or Europe/Japan.
>>6518354
To a greater or lesser extent, yes. It does vary though.

[Anonymous No.6518648]

>>6518354

I noticed this when I first picked up my kv-32xbr200. At least on my tv, the effect goes away when I turn the sharpness really low which is fine because it still looks great over component even w/ sharpness almost all the way down.

Like the other anon said it’s not as obvious on all flat screens. Honestly I haven’t noticed this effect on later model FD Trinitrons I have. The xbr200 was an early model made in ‘99.

[Anonymous No.6518861]

>>6518354
This happens because with a flat screen the distance between the electron beam and screen changes as you scan across. To illustrate this consider a point some distance away from a line and draw arrows going out from the point to the line. The arrow perpendicular to the line from the point will be the shortest and as you move outward it gets longer. Applied to CRTs it means the center of the screen receives more energy and is therefore brighter than the edges. Also if you look closely at the screen while it's off in a bright room you'll see the phosphor stripes get wider as you move away from the center due to the same reason.

[Anonymous No.6518870]

[Anonymous No.6519509]

>That feel when I put /CRT/ thread in the name field instead of the subject field

[Anonymous No.6519606]

CRT display looks like fucking garbage. I dont understand why nostalgiacucks are obsessed with that. I'm sure everyone in the 80s would buy LCD TVs if they were as cheap as CRT.

[Anonymous No.6519626]

>>6519606
lower latency
better display of 240p and 480i

[Anonymous No.6519683]

Does a modern TV often blur an analog signal like Wii 480i? I was wondering if getting an OSSC and line doubling it to 960p would make it sharp and pixely like it would if you emulate on a PC.

[Anonymous No.6519694]

>>6514953
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6519782]

>>6519626

>Better blacks

Add one.

[Anonymous No.6519884]

>>6519683
Well, a modern TV's going to process an image with the presumption that it's video content, not graphics and vidya. It'll tend to prefer a softer look. The higher the resolution you give it though, the less room it has to do that.

[Anonymous No.6519887]

>>6518870
this looks like shit

[Anonymous No.6519908]

>>6519887
Anything "better" and you'd start seeing the dithering patterns. It's a tradeoff between blurry video with more perceived colors and sharp video with very obvious dithering.

[Anonymous No.6519984]

>>6519887
Dithering trade off and preference. I remember when I went down the image quality rabbit hole, I noticed crisp dithering artifacts for the first time and thought they looked great. Then I got a composite only monitor from the mid 80s and got into maximizing composite image quality. I now appreciate both, but for dithering heavy games I definitely prefer a quality composite image.

tldr, pic related

[Anonymous No.6520003]

>>6519908
>>6519984
You know you can patch images to remove some dithering. I'd imagine results are pretty decent on a CRT over component or RGB, though I've not actually tried it myself.
Either way, I understand where you're coming from but I enjoy the crisp PS1 CRT look way too much to go back to composite. Mine's a PAL console anyway, so the NTSC it puts out is fucked up.
Been using a Retrotink RGB2COMP for that and the results are phenomenal on a component consumer CRT.

[Anonymous No.6520010]

>>6519887
Composite is objectively how the developers intended retro games to be played.

[Anonymous No.6520031]

>>6519984
>Opinions vary
Should be the tag line of /vr/

[Anonymous No.6520054]

>>6514953
in reality scan lines where never used with bilinear filtering. scan lines were used by some companies in japan to circumvent the cost of patent usage fees because the owner of the patent had these crazy fees . SNK would be a notable company in japan that refused to pay. all snk games until more recently had scanlines and no bilinear filtering. scanlines are not the result of a crt being used its a image overlay that tricks the mind into seeing things as being smoother a little when things are in motion

even some european companies wouldnt pay the patent fees to america because it was a huge amount. its like Astar for tactics ai movement huge fee for usage

so your pic on the left and your pic on the right are both faked with modern emulation filters

[Anonymous No.6520879]

>>6518870
Are you using the stock ps1 composite cable?

[Anonymous No.6520952]

>>6518861
>>6518354
>>6518648

Found some interesting info about flat CRT screens, it's not as simple as "flat vs fishbowl" because there's a few different types. An FD Trinitron is really just a trinitron with a flat exterior but it still has the vertically flat but curved horizontal interior. Pic related shows what I mean, but it's from an ad by LG so take it with a grain of salt because they obviously want to talk up their flatrons.

[Anonymous No.6521175]

>>6520879
Yes

[Anonymous No.6521351]

This book legitiamtely just took pictures of CRT tvs.

https://e-hentai.org/g/1658332/56cc23a054/

[Anonymous No.6521872]

>>6521175
I get a little bit better composite from my PS! & PS2 by using a scph-1160 (5500 in Japan) av adapter, then using a quality shielded RCA cable that's as short as possible. Best cable I've found is a 3 ft RCA video cable made by Acoustic Research.

[Anonymous No.6521897]

>>6521872
Sounds about right. FWIW I have the cable wound into a circle tied together next to several power cords and even a coaxial cable coming out of an amplified antenna so I'd imagine there's a lot of interference going on in the space behind the TV. When the image is dark I can even see a vertical bar slightly brighter than the background moving from left to right with regular timing.

[Anonymous No.6521930]

Scanlines are ugly

[Anonymous No.6522031]

anyone who would actually turn down component/svideo/rgb etc in favor of composite for systems like PS1 is retarded, sorry. why is being able to see a dithering pattern so offensive to some people? i'd rather that than shitty washed out colors and huge loss of detail

[Anonymous No.6522306]

>>6522031
See
>>6519694

[Anonymous No.6522382]

reported and saged let me bump off my last remaining comment on this website and then I will stop posting forever

4

[Anonymous No.6522412]

>>6520010
Based. Playstation + Composite is an aesthetic match made in heaven.

[Anonymous No.6522761]

first crt, how'd I do?

[Anonymous No.6522821]

>>6522761

[Anonymous No.6522953]

[Anonymous No.6523116]

Retro games to CRT over composite or to HDTV over component, if those are the only choices without getting off my ass and buying new hardware?

[Anonymous No.6523418]

>>6520010
Most developers used s-video and mid-range TV's when developing their games because it was the best quality they could squeeze out of a relatively small amount of money

Most actual development was done on very nice pic monitors

[Anonymous No.6523419]

>>6523116
Composite on crt because most scalers in TVs are confused by console output and throw artifacts and bs into the picture

[Anonymous No.6523897]

>>6518032
>pvm

[Anonymous No.6524341]

>>6523116
RGB and component aren't the same thing. No console before the PS2 natively puts out component video, the three red, green and blue RCA jacks. That signal is actually called YPbPr, a clever form of encoding to avoid needing a dedicated sync line. If you're plugging in component from them, you're buying HD Retrovision cables to do it already and should probably spend a little more on a basic scaler like the RetroTink 2X.

[Anonymous No.6524608]

I have a confession. My local thrift store always has plenty of cheap CRTs, and I go in once a week to buy a couple. I bring my vita and composite cables to test them out and then I bring them home for test number 2 with a wii and component/s-video test. If they aren't better than the 4 sets I already have I just toss them out. I'm starting to feel bad though because I realize that CRTs are hard to find in most places, I live in fucking Arkansas and no one gives a shit about them. Am I a bad man for tossing sets that other people may love, even if they are less than great?

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[Anonymous No.6525023]

>>6520952
i had a "flatron" . it was an earlier LCD panel though, with TFT lighting...

[Anonymous No.6525026]

If I cared about graphics I’d play modern games

[Anonymous No.6525032]

>>6525026
modern games have no soul or unique artstyle

[Anonymous No.6525034]

>>6525026
In muh day we wanted all our games to look like shit. When we got a new console we threw the composite cables it came with in the garbage and bought the cheapest RF adapter we could find from wal-mart. You see that's what classic gaming is all about. Maintaining a bunch of aging hardware but getting the worst out of it, for authenticity. Just like muh daddy did.

[Anonymous No.6525053]

some people prefer no input lag, and no missing musical notes and no missing background textures that emulation has yet to solve. cope harder poorfags

[Anonymous No.6525392]

>>6523897
ironic because they think that consumer sets are still better

[Anonymous No.6525393]

>>6525026
False equivalence, cringe
>>6525034
Based

[Anonymous No.6525395]

>>6518032
Those blues look like shit.

[Anonymous No.6525496]

>>6525053
>some people prefer no input lag, and no missing musical notes and no missing background textures that emulation has yet to solve. cope harder poorfags

hipsters born after 2000s are morons. many games had input lag due to bad programming alone. little to do with original hardware. in many cases emulations and fanpatches fixed gamebreaking/major bugs. emulation is master race.

[Anonymous No.6525741]

Guys, are there any significant issues like input lag or shitty graphics when using PC emulation with a CRT TV?

[Anonymous No.6525756]

>>6525741
It should be fine, right?
What about PC games? Some playstation PC ports are superior to console versions, I'd prefer to play them on a CRT TV.

[Anonymous No.6525764]

>>6524608
yes, but there's probably not much you can do besides try to get people to pay outrageous shipping costs on eBay. If there isn't interest in your area they were probably going to get tossed anyway.

[Anonymous No.6525781]

I've been trying to fix overscan on an early 2000s panasonic set. I got into the service menu but I'm too scared to fuck around with the settings. Anyone know which option controls vertical stretch? I know I need to be in In serviceman B mode.

[Anonymous No.6525836]

>>6525741
There might be, but since you're using a computer, why not just use a CRT monitor? They're much easier to connect, you just need an adapter if your PC can't output VGA. They can use higher resolutions and refresh rates too, which is great for modern PC games.

[Anonymous No.6525869]

>>6525836
I already have one, it's my main monitor for gaming. But it's 17", which is alright for mouse and keyboard, but when I want to sit back on the couch and play, the screen feels a bit small.
Thinking about buying one of those giant Trinitrons.

[Anonymous No.6525885]

>>6525496
>i-in m-m-many c-cases
lmaoooo
Cope harder you broke bucktoothed bitch

[Anonymous No.6525896]

Anyone here have experience with Americann CRTs?
How are once super high end curved GE/RCA/Zenith sets with s-video compared to their bubble economy counterparts?

[Anonymous No.6526010]

>>6520952
>>6525023
I currently use a Flatron as my main LCD monitor, I've always been pretty happy with it. Bought it second-hand at a PC store and it's served me well for 8 years so far.

[Anonymous No.6526153]

>>6525869
Ok. To go back to your concern about input latency, it's nothing to worry about. I use my xbox one on a CRT tv through a hdfury box and it doesn't add any input lag as far as i can tell, and i'm generally pretty sensitive to these things, like when using a modern TV not set to its game mode.

[Anonymous No.6526289]

>>6526153
I see, thanks.

[Anonymous No.6526382]

[Anonymous No.6526431]

is 13 inches too small for PS2? there's a $5 trinitron posted 10 minutes ago but it's only 13... I'd have it in a bedroom so I'd be pretty close, but I'm not trying to squint like a motherfucker

[Anonymous No.6526529]

I want to get a CRT monitor to use as a secondary monitor for emulation, is there anything I need to know? I have DVI, VGA and S-Video ports, what should I use?

[Anonymous No.6526572]

>>6526529
VGA

[Anonymous No.6527063]

I found one of these beasts on fb marketplace in barely used condition. Panasonic ct-34wx53. Yes, it's a 1080i set, but I'm cooming over the aesthetic of it. Invar shadow mask to boot. I can't find much info on the set to my surprise.

[Anonymous No.6527123]

>>6527063
80kg

[Anonymous No.6527209]

>>6527123
By information, I meant user impressions and reviews of the set. 170-180 lbs is typical for a set this large. aperture grille sets are 15-20 lbs heavier of course.

[Anonymous No.6527325]

I've noticed this thread is slower, probably because since "/crt/ is in the title it doesn't show up when you search the catalog for "crt"

[Anonymous No.6527335]

[Anonymous No.6527857]

I have an AV Famicom (only supports composite or RF outputs natively) which I want to connect to a modern screen. What's the best way to achieve this without modding the system?

[Anonymous No.6527864]

>>6527857
The open source scan converter would be your best bet. It does line multiplying rather than a full-on upscaling like a framemeister does, so it doesn't add any latency on top of your TV's inherent input lag. Depending on the console, it can output slightly out of spec refresh rates, which don't play nicely with some modern TVs, so do keep that in mind

[Anonymous No.6527959]

>>6527857
RetroTink2X if you don't want to spend hundreds.

[Anonymous No.6528052]

>>6527857
Retarded faggot.

[Anonymous No.6528202]

>>6527864
>>6527959
Thanks

>>6528052
Thanks

[Anonymous No.6530121]

>>6514953
Any list out there of consumer TVs to look for when looking for the best of the best? Living in Eastern Europe, PVMs are not common at all.

[Anonymous No.6530135]

>>6530121
>TVs
Get a computer monitor. They're much higher quality and can run at higher resolutions and refresh rates, which makes them much more versatile, hell they're amazing for modern games.

[Anonymous No.6530164]

>>6530121
https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/wiki/speclist

[Anonymous No.6530237]

>>6530135
Yeah but they don't play nice with 15hz

[Anonymous No.6530612]

>>6518032
This hurts me eyes just to look at through an LCD.

[Anonymous No.6530881]

>>6525836
>you just need an adapter if your PC can't output VGA
New GPUs stopped supporting analog output a few years ago and good active converters aren't cheap.

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[Anonymous No.6530991]

>>6523897
why do people pseudo fake shill false flag in opposition on this board for their protection over pvm and bvms like this poster?

[Anonymous No.6531150]

>>6530991
They're salty because their price got memed by people who "know what they got", if they were lucky enough to find one for very cheap or even free they absolutely would not hesitate to pick it up

[Anonymous No.6531629]

https://boulder.craigslist.org/ele/d/boulder-sony-trinitron-tv-monitor/7142767885.html
lol, asks $900 for it and can't even bother to post a non-stock photo

[Anonymous No.6531746]

>>6515284
>GBA
>scanlines

Idiot.

[Anonymous No.6532239]

Is there such thing as belling-lee connector to spade lug? Or a coaxial to spade lug?

[Anonymous No.6532621]

>>6515284
See
>>6516086

[Anonymous No.6532624]

>>6525392
They definitely don’t. They both game on modern displays with disgusting “sharp pixels”

[Anonymous No.6532834]

>>6531150
Is that a megaview?

[Anonymous No.6533484]

>>6532834
Not my picture
In general presentation monitors are underrated, got a 2530 for cheap during a broadcaster asset auction personally

[Anonymous No.6535220]

Guys help I picked up an old CRT TV off the curb the other day. I don't even notice to scan lines. It's been so many years since I used a CRT that I assumed I just forgot about them. Are emulator CRT shaders actually that bullshit? Of course if I shove my face into the thing I can see them but I mean

[Anonymous No.6535302]

I went to my local pawnshop and they have a CTX monitor. Never heard of such a thing. Anyone know what it is? Dated back to the 90s I think. Sticker read IJEPV-768.

[Anonymous No.6535308]

>>6535220
The emulator ones are indeed bullshit. If I'm playing on something other than a real CRT I'm not going to shit up the picture with that crap. Looks fugly compared to the real thing.

[Anonymous No.6535883]

Alright lads, just took home a CRT monitor to try and see if it works. I hooked it up to my 360 via vga to test it, and it works, but it has weird colorful artifacts on the left half of the screen. Any of you might know what it is and how to fix it?

[Anonymous No.6535889]

>>6535883
Degauss it, if no degauss option exists power it on and off every 10 minutes for an hour to see if it restores purity.

[Anonymous No.6535908]

>>6535889
Just degaussed it, it didn't do much. Maybe it's affected by other E.M waves in the room.

[Anonymous No.6535915]

>>6514953
Left is composite, right is component?

[Anonymous No.6535916]

>>6535908
Do it for an hour

[Anonymous No.6535921]

>>6522306
>see anon you're wrong based on this MS paint doodle I made
I'll put it on the fridge next to my nephew's crayola drawings.

[Anonymous No.6535927]

>>6535916
It degausses itself when switched on, would repeatedly power-cycling it for that time work?

[Anonymous No.6536023]

>>6535889
Doing just that. I'll keep you posted. Gonna enjoy some banjo kazooie in the meantime, it looks super smooth!

[Anonymous No.6536028]

>>6536023
>>6535927
Don't do this.

[Anonymous No.6536041]

>>6536028
What would be a good way to get rid of the problem then?

[Anonymous No.6536050]

>>6536041
check the caps

[Anonymous No.6536076]

>>6524608
>vita
>composite
why would you just go on the internet and lie?

[Anonymous No.6536103]

>>6536050
I'm not really comfortable messing with those. I get that power-cycling the monitor puts some strain on them. I feel simply degaussing regularly would be the best way to go about solving that colour problem.

[Anonymous No.6536174]

>>6514953
>left: cool she's topless
>right: dammit

[Anonymous No.6536214]

>>6514953
Hello, someone in my city is giving away a COMPAQ P900 (19", ~26 kg / 57 lbs.) for free, with the VGA cable. I see it says Trinitron so that must be good, but I also see it has a flat screen, and I don't know if that's good or bad or anywhere in-between. Here is the data sheet / manual, and I have four questions:
>https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1310701/Compaq-P900.html
1) I don't know if it's the original VGA cable, Does it matter?
2) It doesn't come with a power cable, Will any do?
3) I don't have a car, Is this monitor good enough to warrant hauling its weight through bus and foot? I plan to use lots of styrofoam and bubble wrap and put it into a luggage case so I can roll it around.
4) Due to its weight, is there any way to know ether my desk will bend from it if I put it in the middle?

Thanks in advance for any reply.

[Anonymous No.6536264]

>>6536214
Flat screen on crt monitors means perfect geometry, Flat crt tv is another story.

[Anonymous No.6536269]

>>6514973
What game???

[Anonymous No.6536275]

What is the best consumer curved crt. I own a 24in Trinitron Wega that's a flat screen. I want a similar or smaller curved screen. The more lines the better obviously.

[Anonymous No.6536287]

>>6536275
Is difficult in this day and age to choose a specific model of a crt. first search what is available.

[Anonymous No.6536304]

>>6536275
>I want a similar or smaller curved screen
Why?

[Anonymous No.6536324]

>>6536287
If this was a perfect world what would you recommend.
>>6536304
PS1 mainly. For nostalgia purposes. I had a ps1 and later a GameCube on a 4.5" screen until I was in high school. As an adult now my friends always make fun of me for hating on their giant TV's. I truly hate having to turn my head from one side to the other to see what's happening on the other side of the screen. With a small TV the entire picture fits in your focus zone.

[Anonymous No.6536331]

>>6536324
With that being said I would still greatly prefer the TV to have component hookups. One composite and one component would be perfect.

[Anonymous No.6536350]

>>6536324
JVC D SERIES or trinitron

[Anonymous No.6536370]

Just like the devs intended.

[Anonymous No.6536387]

Jackal for the NES

[Anonymous No.6536389]

>>6536264
Sorry, I don't know what that entails; does that mean I should pick it up?

[Anonymous No.6536404]

>>6536389
It's a good CRT monitor and is in good shape, It's up to you.

[Anonymous No.6536419]

>>6536404
Sorry, I haven't owned a CRT monitor since 2006, and since then only had shitty TN laptop screens due to travelling. Would you say that e.g. As far as CRT monitor go, this may be as good as I'll get for free?

[Anonymous No.6536431]

>>6536214
Does it work?

[Anonymous No.6536440]

>>6536431
Allegedly yes, I asked if it had any issues and the owners said no.

[Anonymous No.6536483]

>>6514953
excuse my ignorance but is the difference between lcd monitor and crt monitor the same as lcd tv and crt tv for games? I saw a video a while ago about crt tv for games being so much better that it wasnt even close so now I wonder if its the same for pc monitors

[Anonymous No.6536506]

>>6536483
you are mixing things up, CRT is a completely different thing.

[Anonymous No.6536509]

Been looking around and some people are offering their old Sony trinitrons like this one here.

It's the model KV-21XD4.
Worth picking up for 5 bucks?

[Anonymous No.6536517]

>>6536506
a different thing than what?

[Anonymous No.6536575]

>>6536517
Mac.

[Anonymous No.6536578]

>>6536575
what are you talking about? I dont understand

[Anonymous No.6536628]

>>6536509
If it works I'd pay $5

[Anonymous No.6536854]

Anyone know what VRMP BI means in a JVC service menu? It can only be set to 00 (default) or 01. 01 seems to sharpen up the picture a bit around the edges.

[Anonymous No.6537049]

>>6536419
dude, its free. just go get it.

[Anonymous No.6537482]

>>6532624
yes, consumer sets with modded RGB or modern TV's with OSSC

[Anonymous No.6537591]

>>6536023
Update on the CRT monitor i found. Degaussed it a bunch of times over the course of an hour, havent't noticed much, if any change. Any way i could degauss it more effectively, or is the tube fucked?

[Anonymous No.6537593]

>>6537591
You'd need a degaussing coil

[Anonymous No.6537607]

>>6537593
Ok, i'll look into those. I saw them mentioned in the service manual.

[Anonymous No.6537620]

I like the aesthetics of this CRT.

[Anonymous No.6537649]

>>6537620
Not good CRT. Claims Jerry Seinfield is Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Avoid.

[Anonymous No.6537662]

>>6537049
Like I mentioned, I don't have a car. Hauling 26+ kg. on foot (~30 mins total, round trip) and public transportation (~80 minutes total, round trip) is quite a lot, so I wanted some convincing because I'm really ignorant about CTRs and its benefits in 2020 beyond "it looks sharper than an IPS" + "It's as good as a TN", with the only drawback being aspect ratio.

[Anonymous No.6537694]

If the graphics card has a VGA port does that guarantee a CRT monitor will work?

[Anonymous No.6537741]

[Anonymous No.6537746]

[Anonymous No.6537748]

[Anonymous No.6537756]

[Anonymous No.6537759]

[Anonymous No.6537783]

>>6536214
1) Not really
2) Yes as long as voltage is the same
3) If it actually works then go get it
4) As /diy/

[Anonymous No.6537808]

[Anonymous No.6537876]

>another /crt/ with shitty op
>this time it can't even be found in the catalog when searching for "crt"
just stop

[Anonymous No.6537882]

>>6537876
You didn't even look

[Anonymous No.6537927]

>>6537882
>phone
Retard. Catalog doesn't show poster names.

[Anonymous No.6537934]

>>6537927
Here you go newfag, use the index like a normal fucking person.

[Anonymous No.6537946]

>>6537934
>anon says you can't found the thread in the catalog
>y-yes you can look at my phone, btw I'm a faggot
>no, catalog doesn't show poster names
>u-use the index!1 n-newfag!
I can understand you being both retarded, and an homosexual, but there's no excuse for you to pretend you're right when you have proven wrong beyond reproach.

[Anonymous No.6537958]

>>6537946
>calling others gay when you use the catalog
Its almost like I've been anti-catalog the whole time

[Anonymous No.6537965]

>>6537958
It doesn't matter what you, as a faggot, do or not do. All that matters is that you denied anon being unable to find the thread in the catalog, and you were proven wrong.

[Anonymous No.6537971]

>>6537965
>thinking i created the op
Oh you're schizo, now I understand why you're using the catalog

[Anonymous No.6537974]

>>6537971
>still acting like a faggot
Quote back to me where I stated or implied that you were the one who created the OP.
>s-chizo
Ironic coming from you.

[Anonymous No.6537978]

>>6537974
Sure thing, pal
>>6537965
>All that matters is that you denied anon being unable to find the thread in the catalog
This implies that I created the thread. Doesn't matter if you intended for it to or not, you were the one who said to point out implication >>6537974
>Quote back to me where I stated or implied that you were the one who created the OP

[Anonymous No.6537980]

>>6537978
>This implies that I created the thread
No, it doesn't. All that it shows is that you're narcissistic. Anon stated he couldn't find it in the catalog without quoting any specific post, then you replied "you didn't even look" which was bogus, and then I proved you wrong. There's a vast difference between me implying unintended (which didn't happen) and you inferring incorrectly, which is what happened. There's nothing for you to infer that you were accused of making the OP unless you were extremely self-absorbed.

[Anonymous No.6538005]

>>6537980
>>6537978
>Doesn't matter if you intended for it to or not

[Anonymous No.6538006]

>>6537808
See
>>6516086

[Anonymous No.6538012]

>>6538005
>I-I'm not wrong!!1
You're just embarrassing yourself now.

[Anonymous No.6538015]

>>6538012
Meant for >>6537980

[Anonymous No.6538040]

>>6538015
>still at it
I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from a dumb, narcissistic, homosexual phoneposter.

[Anonymous No.6538051]

>>6538040
>thinking that was me
Get help, schizo

[Anonymous No.6538059]

>>6538051
>thinking that was me
Seek therapy for your paranoia.

[Anonymous No.6538072]

>>6538059
>he's still replying
That dude BTFO'd you hours ago, you're seething so bad that you keep replying to me thinking I'm him.

[Anonymous No.6538080]

>>6538072
>still butthurt
Anon already buillied the phonefag over an hour ago why are you replying to them because you think they think you think is the same person they bullied earlier? All you're doing is making it seem as they're right and you're indeed the same person.

[Anonymous No.6538140]

>seething anon is still going at it
I'm going to bring us back on topic since this retard can't handle it

I got a free Toshiba 27AF44 off of Craigslist. I also bought a composite cable for my Wii. Did I do well?

[Anonymous No.6538156]

>>6538140
That TV has a component input. Get a cheap component cable for your Wii and you'll really be in business.

[Anonymous No.6538163]

>>6538140
>still boiling with anger
Sad.
>Did I do well?
For free? Sure, why not.

[Anonymous No.6538165]

[Anonymous No.6538168]

>>6538156
I meant I bought a component cable, my bad. I've never owned a cable like this, was really confused when plugging it in but I figured it out eventually. It looks really nice

[Anonymous No.6538175]

>>6538168
Yeah it's the right way to go for the Wii, you can get 240p output with it.

[Anonymous No.6538237]

How do I photograph a CRT without making it look like shit?

[Anonymous No.6538247]

>>6538237
With tenuous (literally) background lightning and with an actual camera, not your phone.

[Anonymous No.6538440]

>>6538168
>was really confused
>matching colors
LOL

[Anonymous No.6538509]

>>6538440
There are two white and red cords and when I turned it to video 2 it only had audio. I didn't realize there was a third channel, that's why the composite cable is plugged in as well.

[Anonymous No.6538978]

So I picked up a D-Series and the picture quality is great except for some mild moire around the edges that is visible with dark, solid colors. Anyone know how to fix this?

[Anonymous No.6539679]

>>6501213
>>6501256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsMsZaSz3Fk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q5bEGikmNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3G7b-DcOO4
Interesting...

[Anonymous No.6539683]

>a way to emulate CRTs on a modern TV
HDMI 2.1

[Anonymous No.6540419]

>>6514963
what game? Breath of Fire?

[Anonymous No.6540439]

>>6540419
yes, 1 specifically

[Anonymous No.6540526]

>>6515284
scanlines fetishism has gone too far

[Anonymous No.6540531]

>>6519908
>>6519984
>>6522412

thanks for the you's I havent asked for but it sounds like cope to like

currently playing VP as >>6518870 on my 1997 with my 1997 scart cable, just looks much much better : better color, better sprites, better everything

[Anonymous No.6540650]

*blocks your path*

[Anonymous No.6540737]

why my CRT corners fucked up
One corner is green
The other is red
I'm boutta do it.

[Anonymous No.6540801]

Anons, help me out. I found a 19" CRT flat screen monitor for free but doesn't come with the power cable / cord (they're using it for their current monitor). Will -any- do?

[Anonymous No.6540804]

>>6538509
>getting filtered by a cable

[Anonymous No.6540810]

>>6540801
As long as it's just a power cable and not an external power supply yes.

[Anonymous No.6540847]

What do you guys clean your TVs with? Can I get away with windex and a paper towel?

[Anonymous No.6540851]

>>6540847
I use micro fiber towels I get from the dollar store.

[Anonymous No.6540868]

>>6540851
Any cleaning solution?

[Anonymous No.6540874]

>>6540868
I usually use these wet wipes that are made for windows but I'm sure windex would be fine. I used it quite a bit back in the day.

[Anonymous No.6540881]

>>6540874
Thanks

[Anonymous No.6540884]

>>6540847
>>6540868
>>6540881
Windex is fine, but don't be generous about it, if you spray and it starts running down, you used too much. Gentle sprays > wipe > repeat. Once done use a micro fiber cloth for perfection.

[Anonymous No.6540895]

>>6540804
How am i filtered if I figured it out on my own? A huge problem I was having was the only AAA batteries I had for the remote were incredibly low. I kept having to reconnect it just to change the channel.

[Anonymous No.6541078]

Are these any good?

[Anonymous No.6541149]

>>6538006
Scanline envy...

[Anonymous No.6541282]

>>6540737
If it's a PC crt there might be a setting called "landing" in the adjustments where turning it down will make the discoloration lessen

[Anonymous No.6541389]

is the difference between component and s-video really that meaningful? I have an s-video cable and it looks fine to me

[Anonymous No.6541470]

>>6541389
It's most noticible in a direct comparison which makes some people cry diminishing returns.

[Anonymous No.6542787]

>>6541389
it's not as big of a jump as composite to S-video, but the difference is noticeable if you have working eyes

[Anonymous No.6543365]

>>6514953
Is a Sony KV-21FX30E Trinitron better than a Samsung CS-21A11MHQ Plano? I see the Sony being given away, but it's a 4 hour drive total, wondering if it would be worth getting it as a potential upgrade. Thanks.
Also, both are 21 inches, does screen size matter in terms of picture quality? Like, the bigger the screen, the better the picture?

[Anonymous No.6543471]

>>6531150
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with playing on them. These days the market's just expensive to the point of the pursuit being pointless, particularly with the results that can be had from a component or RGB modded consumer CRT.

[Anonymous No.6543482]

>>6538140
>>6538168
A Wii with component is an excellent cheap way to get started with real CRT games, or as a supplement. Lots of decent emulators and native 240p in a super cheap package you probably already have on the shelf and if not, is still pretty cheap to pick up.

[Anonymous No.6543484]

>>6543365
The physical size of a screen will spread out the pixels more. Think about how you've probably seen both a smartphone and a flatscreen with a 1080p screen. The phone is going to look orders of magnitudes sharper, due to the higher pixel density.
That being said, a CRT's picture is naturally a little softer so you shouldn't worry about it too much, more the size that you want and works for your setup.

[Anonymous No.6544083]

>>6536214
So I picked this up. Been configuring it, finally managed to get great color and relatively low deformation, but how do I increase focus?

[Anonymous No.6545096]

[Anonymous No.6545105]

>>6535883
That's a DiamondTron you are very lucky

[Anonymous No.6545251]

Postan an RGB mod I did

[Anonymous No.6545258]

[Anonymous No.6545259]

Is it frowned upon to ask how to achieve the best crt effect on Retroarch? There's a bunch of shaders.

[Anonymous No.6545262]

>>6545259
They all look like shit. Get a real CRT or just leave them off.

[Anonymous No.6545516]

>>6543365
Asking about the Trinitron again, i'm under the impression that it is one of the best consumer TVs you can get (in Europe), is that true? And if not, can i somehow compare specs with other TVs to know for sure. I've read about TVL, but using google and an official service manual, i couldn't find it.
>>6545251
Looks great.
>>6543484
Thanks :)

[Anonymous No.6545929]

>>6525021

oooh ahhh .... Model?

[Anonymous No.6546191]

>>6545929
14m2u

[Anonymous No.6546225]

>sharp pixels

[Anonymous No.6546375]

>>6546225
Do you draw these yourself or do you go "shopping" for them on Google images

[Anonymous No.6546483]

>>6546375
he's a phoneposter, he has never created OC in his life

[Anonymous No.6546753]

>>6546191

>juicy <3

[Anonymous No.6546827]

What's the best filter to get that soft look without adding scanlines or other crt overlays?

[Anonymous No.6547779]

>>6545259
I tested the crt-pi shaders through a basic hdtv and it just doesn't look or feel the same as a CRT due to the interference brought on by the hdtv.
It does the job if you're not super picky. But if you have the option, get the real thing.

[Anonymous No.6547782]

>>6547779
>I tested the crt-pi shaders
Try some real shaders. Those are shit, optimized to run on weak hardware. CRT Royale variants are way better. I'm a PVM owner but I have to admit the CRT Royale shaders look better on a 4k screen after being tweaked than any consumer or pro CRT looks.

[Anonymous No.6547795]

>>6536269
Phantasy Star 4 on the genesis.

[Anonymous No.6547938]

>>6514953
Whats the difference between a PVM and a regular CRT?

[Anonymous No.6547967]

I plug the scort cables into my ass

[Anonymous No.6547971]

>>6547938
Higher quality phospers for higher color accuracy, most parts designed to be operated 24/7 with high life expectancy as opposed to a bog standard consumer crt.

[Anonymous No.6548128]

>>6547938

[Anonymous No.6548535]

>>6547938
One is a meme, one is not.

[Anonymous No.6548703]

>>6547938
>PVM
High quality product for professional use.
>Regular CRT
Mass produced product.

[Anonymous No.6548745]

>>6547782
Doubt it, unless you have some method of eliminating motion blur without sacrificing brightness or some other tradeoff

[Anonymous No.6548752]

>>6514953
remember, if you can still see dithering and checkerboard patterns, you aren't using a crt correctly

[Anonymous No.6548764]

>>6524608
Tbh you buying and recycling/tossing the bad ones is just doing everyone else a favor

[Anonymous No.6549154]

Is this worth the hour drive? Already have a 21" Trinitron but only does 720i. Pictured does 1080i and is 16:9. Also already have a 4:3 34" Zenith average TV.

[Anonymous No.6549248]

>>6549154
Those WegaHD are not good for 240p content

[Anonymous No.6549382]

>>6545258
>>6545251
Looks good

[Anonymous No.6549856]

>>6524608
Yes, I live in Arkansas too. Due to retards such as yourself, the only crt I’ve found in the last year than even turns on is a shitty Durabrand

[Anonymous No.6549996]

>>6537591
>>6537591
how long have you been running it? unless it's an ancient monitor is should degauss when turning on/off. you may just want to run it for an hour or two and see if it fixes itself.. all crts do this if they are moved too far or are tilted.

[Anonymous No.6550174]

>>6514953
No. Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.6550179]

>>6547938
A PVM contains a CRT, retard. The better question is what is the difference between a PVM and a TV.

[Anonymous No.6550269]

>>6524967
God I love that game

[Anonymous No.6550437]

>>6550179
Retard, the pvm is the crt, just a name to refer to a particular type of crt

[Anonymous No.6550501]

>>6549996
I have been using it for a couple of hours everyday since i first posted it. It does degauss itself when turning on, but some magnetic fields remain on the left half of the screen. My guess is that it was stored near unshielded speaker or something like that, as the internal degaussing system doesn't remove these fields, so i plan on making an external degaussing coil and trying that, as it's mentioned in the service manual.

[Anonymous No.6551052]

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[Anonymous No.6551069]

[Anonymous No.6551071]

[Anonymous No.6551965]

Finally hooked it up to my computer. Left half has some magnetic fields degaussing doesn't get rid of, display area is fairly small, screen is very dim, i have to max out the brightness to get any kind of usable picture, it emits some crackling/popping sounds when turning on. Not great. Any advice on what exactly might be wrong with it, and whether or not i should try and fix it? Is it just too far gone?

[Anonymous No.6552087]

>>6551965
>>6536050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1mQupQHFkc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsVuMRTCX5Y

[Anonymous No.6552160]

>>6552087
Thanks, i know what i'll be doing this weekend. I'll make sure to keep you posted.

[Anonymous No.6552194]

>>6552160
I don't recommend you do that, CRT are very dangerous.

[Anonymous No.6552218]

>>6552194
only complete retards get hurt by CRTs

[Anonymous No.6552226]

just check the caps

[Anonymous No.6552227]

>>6552194
I'll let it discharge for a couple days, i'll be fine. Even if i don't manage to fix it, there are plenty more monitors where it came from, not many flatscreens though.

[Anonymous No.6552248]

>>6552226
Yeah, i'll do that. If replacing hypothetical blown caps doesn't help, i'll just dump it and get another from the same warehouse, i saw a couple other 19" units.

[Anonymous No.6552859]

>>6550437
Wrong. A CRT is literally the glass tube inside of the monitor or TV.
>a particular type of crt
Trinitron would be one such example. Not PVM.

[Anonymous No.6553245]

>>6550179
A PVM is a type of CRT display designed for continuous operation and reliability. They were generally part of surveillance systems or medical equipment. BVMs are similar, but were more geared towards TV production/broadcasting, hence the larger size of some models and their higher resolutions, up to 1080i for some models. They are some of the highest quality CRT displays, outside of computer monitors.

[Anonymous No.6553425]

Not a real CRT but the CRT-Royale-Fake-Bloom-Intel shader looks pretty good in my opinion. It's the closest to what my memory remembers of my old actual CRT.

[Anonymous No.6553513]

>>6553425
it's so funny lol like..
>not a real crt, but

no shit, really? maybe resizing this made something get lost in translation, but this doesn't look like the game would on any CRT, like, it bears no resemblance to any real life mask/dot pitch etc, and the motion resolution/colors/contrast on the LCD this is being played on are more than likely ass in comparison. CRT shaders are just SuperEagle for 2020

[Anonymous No.6553523]

>>6553513
>elitist for a fucking screen type
And I thought my obsession with tomboys was weird.

[Anonymous No.6553538]

>>6553523
>bootyblasted and coping
What thread do you think you're posting in, retard? The "CRT's are overrated general"? how is it possible to even be "elitist" over a product that you can get anyday for free because most people view them as literal garbage, holy shit you people are stupid

[Anonymous No.6553608]

>>6553425
>>6553523
no one cares
this is a CRT thread

[Anonymous No.6554067]

>>6553538
I was talking about how you behave like an ass towards others and look down on people not playing on those.