HOMM/MM (Heroes of) Might & Magic(:Heroes) General

[Anonymous No.6263590]

"Bump limit" Edition
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[Anonymous No.6263596]

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[Anonymous No.6263601]

>>6263596
>>6263597
All me.

[Anonymous No.6263653]

>>6263532
Aside from fire protection, you can heal, they can't

[Anonymous No.6263656]

>>6263596
>>6263597
>>6263601
I was planning to write a reply about retarded way of handling archive, but then I realise the HoMM general doesn't fucking have a common name to all the threads, so it's impossible to just search for them using OPs

[Anonymous No.6263697]

>>6263423
>If you have money issues at the point you are getting dark master something went wrong.
>not getting Master Dark on all party asap after finishing candelabra and stables quests so you don't have to care about fucking up your reputation later
Yeah, just wait til level 50 and buy this useless spell for 20k, totally worth it.

[Anonymous No.6263820]

>>6263596
>>6263597
>Russian archives blocks all archives and CDNs because there might be a loli pussy somewhere in there
MUST
DENY
ACCESS
TO KNOWLEDGE

[Anonymous No.6263821]

>>6263820
>archives
government, rather

[Anonymous No.6264206]

bleh

[Anonymous No.6264389]

Anyone wanna point me in the right direction?

God damn, I saved up 8 levels so I could level all at once and not take 2 months for it, and it still wasn't nearly enough skill points for everything I wanted.

[Anonymous No.6264392]

>>6264206

[Anonymous No.6264448]

So I'm starting Isles of Terra soon and I was wondering if I should go with the default party? I can't see any reason not to and I'm new to CRPGs so I wouldn't really know how to build my own anyway.

[Anonymous No.6264523]

>>6264389
Castle Alamos is in Eel Infested Waters, I believe the ship leaves from Silver Cover
>restarted my SSSC and it was worth doing it right, even got Angelic Helm of Mana

[Anonymous No.6264539]

>>6264523
All right, how do I get Saintly reputation without wanting to gouge my eyes out? I just learned that selling bones loses you a ton of rep.

[Anonymous No.6264582]

>>6264539
Hire 2 bards, I think reputation bonuses/penalties from similar NPCs stack. Do some quests that increase reputation. Main quest will eventually get you +800 rep.

[Anonymous No.6264595]

>>6264582
ngl, this bullshit is making me want to look up if there's any cheat codes to instantly increase rep or something.

Should I work on getting master dark magic first? I didn't have enough SP left over for it so I was doing light first.

[Anonymous No.6264597]

>>6263596
>>6263597
Wouldn't it be easier to just slap them all into one pastebin?

[Anonymous No.6264604]

Alright, time to play M&M X
What am i in for?

[Anonymous No.6264612]

>>6264595
Getting dark first is easier because lowering reputation is easier than increasing it and there is only a couple of quest that give you negative karma. But if you already did a lot of rep-increasing quest, I think it would be a waste to just dump your reputation now, later you may would'n have enough rep from regular quests for Saintly and have to wait til you get increase from the main quest. And generally I find light magic way more useful that dark.
Btw, reputation is constantly lowers/increases toward zero and higher/lower it is, more you loose/gain it with every day passing.

[Anonymous No.6264620]

>>6264612
The problem is I'm already 0 rep right now.

I was floating around 400 rep, then I did the cannibal temple quest in Bootleg Bay and learned that selling bones gets you 1k a pop. What the hell I thought, picked up every bone in the place as I did it and then went back and picked up all the bones from Bootleg Bay I'd previously ignored. Sold them all and leveled up, getting a bunch of new skill masteries etc and clearing off things I'd been putting off.

Only just noticed now that it fucked over my reputation. Kill me now.

[Anonymous No.6264629]

>>6264620
Donation to the temple will get you to 200 rep, 2 bards should (I think, but not really sure) get you +2 levels of reputation. So you have to get 400+ karma from quests to get to 1000. Every day rep will decrease 1%, so take that into account.
Can't you just reload earlier save? Or you're one of those people who save everything in one slot?

[Anonymous No.6264634]

>>6264629
I occasionally save in new slots, but the last time was about 2 months ago.

I'd I saved in a new slot every time I saved, I'd have 50000 save slots.

[Anonymous No.6264637]

>make a Heroes 3 map
>try it
>can't beat it

>can't beat my own fucking map

[Anonymous No.6264649]

>>6264634
Well, tough luck. Go for master dark then or go do main quest.
Grayface patch have quick save function, btw. And there is a middle ground between saving once in a blue moon and keeping a million save files.

[Anonymous No.6264656]

>>6264637
>The moment when you have to do the math in your head and decide whether the map is too hard and you need to make it easier, or you're shit at heroes and need a proper tester

[Anonymous No.6264662]

>>6264649
Let me check something before I fuck up any harder:
If I were to go become the butcher of New Sorpigal (or whatever), get my reputation to the minimum and master Dark magic, could I easily get it back to neutral by donating to temples or something similar and is there anything else I'd have to watch out for?

[Anonymous No.6264671]

>>6264637
>>6264656
>be me
>play game I've played for 20 years
>"Difficulty: Easy"

[Anonymous No.6264703]

>>6264662
You will get thrown into a jail for a year if you go to any lord's castle with reputation -1000 or lower.
Donation to temple of Baa will get you +200 rep if your rep <-800, donation to regular temple will get you +200 rep with rep <200.
Duper, Pirate and Gypsy will lower rep for 1 level each.
You don't really have to kill NPCs to get -1000, just running around the town and being a dick to everyone is easier and much more funny than plain dumb murder-hoboing, for me at least.

[Anonymous No.6264726]

>>6264539
The main line quests give a full reputation category each aside from Loretta's because she is trying to jew the population. When you expose the traitor it is something like 4-5 categories by itself moving you from respectable to angelic/saintly by itself. As mentioned, it's easier to go dark first, donate back to respectable than focus on the main line quests you would be doing anyway. The ship to Eel Infested Waters leaves the northern boat in Silver Cove (not the one in the city) on Thursdays only. The actual trainer is hidden in the back entrance of the southern inn of Eel Infested Waters. It's meant to be hard to find. While you are there set a beacon if you can because the miscellaneous shop has level 5 items including the occasional items of body/water/dark/light magic, plus there will be a quest later that brings you back there.

[Anonymous No.6264731]

>>6264662
Oh, and by the way, Master of Dark lives in Paradise Valley and you will need a Fly spell to dodge Titan's item-breaking bolts while searching for his house.

[Anonymous No.6264802]

Am I the only one who's having problems trying to log in on the online lobby in Horn of the Abyss?

[Anonymous No.6265001]

>>6264726
>aside from Loretta's because she is trying to jew the population.
Excuse me, she's trying to DARK ELF the population

[Anonymous No.6265026]

Homm2 doesn't have a tutorial, right? I found a file named TUTORIAL.GM1 in game folder though.

[Anonymous No.6265123]

>>6265026
That's a save, not sure if it was there with the original game, or if it was added for your version/download.

I've gotten some homm2 versions that have a few weird saves of ongoing games.
No idea if it is official or not, don't have the original version on hand.

[Anonymous No.6265174]

Why is the Succession Wars music so much better than the Price of Loyalty music?

How the fuck is the first 50 seconds of this fitting for a Necromancer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1e1rYlY27w

[Anonymous No.6265202]

>>6265174
I'm not sure.
Maybe because they had two sets of musics for the original version, so they felt like keeping to the old music wasn't as important.

I agree anyways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfkpokX9EY

[Anonymous No.6265243]

>>6264392

[Anonymous No.6265328]

>>6265243

[Anonymous No.6265413]

>>6264671
same

[Anonymous No.6265445]

wish I could rape a hero of might and magic

[Anonymous No.6265467]

>>6265445
for me, it's Kalindra

[Anonymous No.6265604]

>>6265328
touche sir

[Anonymous No.6265768]

>>6264671
Eventually due to watching abnormal amounts of streamers i learned to abuse the hell out of 3, but whenever i play 4 which is the one i play the most i either have to play on the easiest setting or i get my ass beaten.
>Tfw never managed to beat some of the campaigns, and only ever got to read them because i used cheats

[Anonymous No.6265781]

>>6265768
None of the campaigns are that hard. Your main goal is to tech to whatever the better T4 unit is and have your heroes focus on combat, scouting, and a magic school. It's a different style than 3 because you basically have 2 heroes in a group snowball over the enemy units a lot more. Once your heroes get to GM archery you can destroy huge packs with just your hero before the enemy even gets a turn.

[Anonymous No.6265786]

>>6265781
The hard parts are castle sieges, which are obnoxious.

[Anonymous No.6265836]

>>6265467
Kalindra-chan?

[Anonymous No.6265861]

>>6265243
Left: overdesigned anime garbage
Right: soul

[Anonymous No.6265880]

>>6265243

[Anonymous No.6265954]

>>6265861
>overdesigned anime garbage
it's just an edgy dark design but none of the armor parts are too egregious
soulposters just don't ever know what they want

[Anonymous No.6265964]

>>6265954
>soulposters are soulless
ftfy

[Anonymous No.6266008]

>>6265954
It's actually just poorly drawn.
Look at the paladin. He's ready for action, his sword drawn, his stance doul've been better but proportions are just right so it's okay. Meanwhile the edgelord over there is just kind of pointing the sword at the ground being all awkward, like he's not sure if he should be there or not, and the 4-pack armor just looks really really silly. Both of his legs are also straight, like he's just chilling against the wall, not ready for action.

All of Succ sprites are complete trash.

[Anonymous No.6266039]

>SSSC at Master Light and 3x Master Air
I have never cleared shit this fast

[Anonymous No.6266090]

>>6265123
It's indeed a save, I loaded it from regular scenario menu, it's a small tutorial map with 2 other ai players, you start as a knight with some army and resources. No text hints though, just an easy map (which I almost fucked up, lmao).

[Anonymous No.6266092]

Also I forgot that fliers here can reach any hex, speed is used only for turn order calculation.

[Anonymous No.6266093]

So how are the HotA campaigns? I hear they're hard, but are they cancer-hard or comfy-hard?

[Anonymous No.6266095]

>>6266093
They're designed by PVPfags who expect you to know the game balance inside and out.

[Anonymous No.6266143]

>>6266092
Yeah that's a pretty big change from homm2 to homm3, I think it's a pretty interesting difference and I'm not sure which I prefer, I could see both existing in the same homm like game filling different functions, where standard flight works like homm3s flight, but then there's Flight2 that works like homm2s flight.

Which faction are you playing as?

[Anonymous No.6266168]

>>6265445
>wish I could gently make love with a hero of might and magic
There, fixed it for ya. Also, for me it's Adelaide.

[Anonymous No.6266171]

>>6266143
I just started Roland's campaign after finishing that small tutorial map as a knight.
It seems there will be choices about missions later, do they affect maps much?

[Anonymous No.6266174]

>>6265445
I wish I could cuck Roland.

[Anonymous No.6266182]

>>6266143
>I could see both existing
This problem has been solved almost entirely by HoMMV breaking up initiative from speed. It's both better for balance and allows to better diversify various creatures when you have stacks that are slow AND don't go far vs stacks that are slow AND go far but aren't as tough. HoMMV had some really good fundamental ideas like that (then H7 fucked it all up by keeping initiative and speed but for some godforsaken reason bringing back discreet turns).

>>6266171
Yes, choices in H2 campaigns affect bonuses you get later (except for betrayal option that just switches you to the opposite campaign and thus shouldn't be taken).

[Anonymous No.6266217]

>>6266168
decently fun hero to play as

[Anonymous No.6266223]

>>6266171
Ah okay.
They're quite impactful.

There's one choice which is better later on that exists in both, but one which is a lot more fun.

[Anonymous No.6266242]

>>6266168
For me, it's Ciele.
>always wet

[Anonymous No.6266379]

>Cannot enter the superior temple of Baa because I'm not a member
But how am I supposed to join you if you won't let me in?

I heard you can join the Baa cult in here and lose a fuckton of karma in the process, wanted to do it for master Dark Magic. What do I do?

[Anonymous No.6266395]

>>6264604
Hybrid Tax to the max among other things, but that has always been my biggest gripe.

[Anonymous No.6266420]

>>6266379
Wasn't this place only accessible with a cloak you get from the quest that sends you there to begin with?

[Anonymous No.6266431]

>>6266420

[Anonymous No.6266498]

>>6266379
That's part of the mainline quest chain that you need to activate before it opens.
After you have turned in Lord Kilburn's shield || Talk to Slicker Silvertounge in at the High Council. He will reject your entry despite the orders from regent Humphrey. When you go back to Wilbur Humphrey he gives you a quest to investigate that temple. || Once you get inside only someone with Expert Perception can open any doors other than the one that opens a room telling you that you need expert perception.

[Anonymous No.6266505]

>>6266379
That's part of the mainline quest chain that you need to activate before it opens.
After you have turned in Lord Kilburn's shield talk to Slicker Silvertounge in at the High Council. He will reject your entry despite the orders from regent Humphrey. When you go back to Wilbur Humphrey he gives you a quest to investigate that temple. Once you get inside only someone with Expert Perception can open any doors other than the one that opens a room telling you that you need expert perception.

[Anonymous No.6266629]

Hey people, I don't really understand tech-speak. Which one of the "stretch filters" is supposed to be the best/high-end one?

[Anonymous No.6266834]

>>6266629
There is no high-end, it's just visual preference. Ideally, you wouldn't use stretchable, just use 32-bit DirectDraw.

[Anonymous No.6266875]

MM6 guy here who was trying to do a bunch of enchanting a week or two ago:
Man, I still can't get any good modifiers and I dunno what's wrong. I hoofed it over to the asshole of the world (Paradise Valley) and purchased a number of items from the 'special' section of the local magic shop, including a pair of ultimate boots and a scarab ring.

Even with those though, I'm still only getting the exact same shitty modifiers I was getting 20+ levels ago from items bought on Mist. I just really wanna get some cool modifiers on my equipment, but this feels fruitless.

[Anonymous No.6266908]

>>6266875
Enchant item just gives level 3 effects no matter what level the item itself is. If you want the really powerful enchants you have to savescum the shop and buy it directly.

[Anonymous No.6266927]

>>6266875
Most useful enchants you can get from spell is "of Protection", "of Defense +12", "of Thievery", "of Regeneration", "of Mana", "of Recovery" (depending on how you adjust its effect in Grayface patch, in original game it does nothing) and "of Antique".
Item's quality doesn't influence enchantments you get, you only need it to cost more than 450 gold (250 for weapons).
Easiest way to get high-end items is to get a shitton of golden pyramids from Circus (needs a 75-200 in a stat to win consistently) and exchange them for tier 6 items in Abdul's oasis in Dragonsand.

[Anonymous No.6266992]

>>6266908
>>6266927
This would have been superb to know, back when I originally was looking for info. Thanks.

How can I tell if the Greyface patch is properly installed, anyway? Before I installed it my resolution was 640x480 and now it's 1440x1080 with black bars at the sides, but that's the one and only difference I've noticed.

[Anonymous No.6267025]

>>6266992
I didn't even know Greyface made it render properly in fullscreen now but yes that's one of its features.

[Anonymous No.6267031]

>>6266992
>How can I tell if the Greyface patch is properly installed, anyway?
Have you tried reading MM6patch_reame.txt?

[Anonymous No.6267036]

>>6267031
Gonna have to be a tad more specific, that's a long file and kinda flavourless.

[Anonymous No.6267047]

>>6267036
>All options are controlled by mm6.ini
and further.

[Anonymous No.6267052]

>>6267047
Okay, not entirely sure what to do with this information, but cool.

[Anonymous No.6267057]

>>6266834
Okay. Thank you!

[Anonymous No.6267068]

>>6267052
Most of it is kinda sorta descriptive and also explained in readme if you, mmm... read it.

[Anonymous No.6267216]

Damn, homm2 feels really chaotic to me, I can't even calculate damage adequately. And economical balance is quite different here, it's really hard to accumulate money(some prices are just ridiculous), losing creatures penalize you too heavily. And it seems in most situations you can't really save them without wait button like in h3.

[Anonymous No.6267246]

>>6267216
Pretty sure damage in HoMM2 works the same as in HoMM3. Attack-Defence by number of creatures.

[Anonymous No.6267304]

>>6267216
>And economical balance is quite different here, it's really hard to accumulate money(some prices are just ridiculous),
Yeah the economy is way different.

In homm3, a capitol of almost any(I think there's like 1-2 exceptions where you're a few hundred short) can support the weekly dwelling cost.
While in homm2 you have to take care with your money and only buy what you can afford.
I loved liches as a kid, but god they're hard to justify considering their cost and low hp and how easy they die to spells.

I was playing with my nephew just a few days ago and our armies were basically just bone dragons+skeletons.
With 4 castles(2 of which were necromancers) I started buying up mummies and zombies.


Also buying unupgraded units and then upgrading them costs a lot more than just buying them upgraded.


Estates on your main heroes is nothing to scoff at in homm2 btw.

[Anonymous No.6267659]

>>6267068
>Most of it is kinda sorta descriptive and also explained in readme if you, mmm... read it.
Too much in the way of technical information, not enough me knowing if it's worth enabling / disabling any of these things for me.

[Anonymous No.6267664]

>>6265768
Funny thing on custom maps: the harder you put difficulty, the weaker AI will be, as it simply can't beat guards

[Anonymous No.6267670]

>>6267664
Not him, but I played a map I recently wanted to play on Impossible difficulty last week.

I did fine, started to build up a nice little army by week 3 and had mostly upgraded my town / beaten a bunch of stuff in my area.

Then the AI came in, I swear he had a doomstack twice my size, bulldozed through the level 6 creatures between us and smashed through my main hero like it was fucking nothing. Haven't played Homm3 again since.

[Anonymous No.6267675]

>>6267670
i was talking about 4

[Anonymous No.6267742]

>>6265781
It's the early maps that are the hardest, especially the chaos one got me bad. Later on i usually wreck the shit out of the opponent with my heroes.

[Anonymous No.6267801]

>>6266182
>HoMMV had some really good fundamental ideas like that
It seems to me that V has the best balance between new ideas and proper implementation.
Though, given that it was made by Nival (who are autistic slav TBS designers, thus, the people most likely to understand the fundamentals) makes this somewhat unsurprising.

[Anonymous No.6267873]

Just did Warlord's Fortress, fuck Death Knights/Doom Knights/Cuisinarts
>also accidentally threw away the Discharge papers and had to MM6CHE them back in lmfao

[Anonymous No.6267883]

MM6 question: Are shields worth it for a paladin with a standard PACS party? I assume I'd need master shield skill for it to be worth it and I don't know if it's worth the investment or not.

[Anonymous No.6267913]

>>6266242
She has a very unfortunately-sounding name for a Polish player, come to think of it.

[Anonymous No.6267927]

Huh, I just found out I have HoMM 7 on my Ubi account, have no idea where did it come from. Is it any good?
Should I bother with any HoMM game above V?

[Anonymous No.6267943]

>>6267927
I personally haven't but a free game is a free game - give it a try if you don't have anything else to play and see if you enjoy something about it.

[Anonymous No.6267954]

>>6267913
Well, fuck the Polish.

>>6267927
It's... alright. You can definitely get some fun time out of it if you aren't turboautistic about what Heroes gameplay should look like and it definitely has its community but there's a TON of rough edges (seriously, you can write an essay on in how many ways it went wrong) and I was never able to get online multiplayer to work without bugging out. Perhaps the worst offence of VII is that it just attempts to replicate III, V and VI but the devs didn't really understand Heroes that well or were able to produce enough QoL and content for the game to take off.

[Anonymous No.6268068]

>>6267304
just realized that one is missing a bunch of things, must've been an early version I happened to still have in my image folder

[Anonymous No.6268072]

>>6268068
What is this modifier? Also is creature growth rate equal for all factions and only depends on tier of a unit?

[Anonymous No.6268080]

>>6267304
Just realized that one is missing a bunch of things, must've been an early version I happened to still have in my image folder.

Deleted the previous post and made a slightly cleaner looking version.

>>6268072
>What is this modifier?
The Modifier column is a multiplier to the HP for the Modified column, used to determine how much each hp costs when their modifier applies.
So a Steel Golem only takes half damage from spells, so against spells they only pay half for each hp, so the modifier is 0.5

[Anonymous No.6268108]

What's a good build order on Heroes 3 for a long game that focuses on econ, but doesn't neglect creatures?

Castle and Conflux, if it makes a difference.

[Anonymous No.6268158]

[Anonymous No.6268167]

>>6268158
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.6268389]

>>6267883
I want to know if shields fuck with recovery if not i'm going to kill myself for selling that +24 AC bonus Olympian shield

[Anonymous No.6268391]

>>6268167
Based
>>6268158
Get this jew fearmongering shit out of here, it's not real

[Anonymous No.6268446]

>>6268389
Shields absolutely fuck with recovery. Not worth it IMO

[Anonymous No.6268453]

>>6268446
Ty for the answer I'm untying the noose

[Anonymous No.6268561]

>>6268167
>>6268391
lmao /pol/fags butthurt

[Anonymous No.6268575]

>>6268158
Don't worry anon I think it was funny.

[Anonymous No.6268583]

>>6268561
>oy vey look how butthurt you are that I fell for a hoax
Ok faggot

[Anonymous No.6268707]

>>6268583
What hoax did he fall for? Anon just posted a meme.

[Anonymous No.6268905]

Should I help the dwarves (mission 3 in homm2)?
It will just lower the final rating a bit, right? I want to see more maps rather than skipping them.
Also what faction do you prefer here? I think sorceress is really strong and straightforward compared to wizard (titans are affordable way too late to make a difference) and knight (t6 is shit, no fliers, worst t1 unit).

[Anonymous No.6268926]

>>6268905
I did that mission and still got the best rating, and the Dwarven Alliance makes later maps much easier. It is a weird map and not very fun though, in my opinion.

I went with Sorceress too because ranged units are OP, so Elves and Druids are really good especially since it's not a very long map.

[Anonymous No.6268948]

>>6268905
The Dwarf Alliance is just too good of a reward.

If you're speedrunning(not time, but getting as few days as possible) then yeah maybe it's better to skip, but if you're just casually playing and want to be better off later save the dwarves.

[Anonymous No.6268957]

>>6268905
>>6268948
>Also what faction do you prefer here?
Oh and I also prefer Sorc.
Mostly because you'll find more dwarves on this map, and it's nice to stack them up a bit more, I think I've always done that before, but now that I think about it I could see Knight working just fine.
Beefing up the huge dwarf stacks with the knight stats, the dwarves can all be upgraded in hill forts(which I assume were on the map I don't remember).

[Anonymous No.6268961]

>>6268926
>>6268957
Thanks, but I implied my question about factions in general, not on this particular map, I sounded vague probably.

[Anonymous No.6268981]

>>6268961
>Thanks, but I implied my question about factions in general
Really could have fooled me
>Also what faction do you prefer here?
>Sorceress is really strong vs wizard and knight (all three options in this map)

Regardless, it's the basic bitch choice but I really like Warlock. Gargs for the speed, Vampires are self sustaining when you mass up enough of them, and obviously black dragons, for which I like to aggressively econ for.

[Anonymous No.6268994]

>>6265880
I don't get what Death Knights are suppose to be in 5.
In 3 they are Might dudes that got turned into Liches so they can continue their career of hardcore melee blender and lead armies.

[Anonymous No.6269003]

The shop in Paradise Valley had a ring with +light magic.

Not having to worry about Haste constantly running out feels great.

[Anonymous No.6269018]

>H7
>AI runs with empty heroes at neutral stacks and earthquakes his own siege walls
Ah yes the suicidal setting.
It's also really funny how they know their AI is shit so many campaign missions have a preset boss battle-ish hero as the final quest and active enemy player is just an annoyance for you to sweep out of the way. You tried, monsieur Pirou. You tried.

[Anonymous No.6269024]

>>6268994
>In 3 they are Might dudes that got turned into Liches
Does it say so in the game?

[Anonymous No.6269163]

>>6268167
>>6268391
Have sex.

[Anonymous No.6269171]

>>6269163
I have no points in blue magic.

[Anonymous No.6269453]

>>6268389
There is no way in MM6 to remove the recovery penalty but even if there were you don't want a shield, you want to learn master sword for the offhand.

[Anonymous No.6269692]

>>6269453
As long as you have a patch. Otherwise it adds the recovery penalties together and each has a minimum

[Anonymous No.6269783]

>>6269003
I don't even know really where to go / what to do next though now, honestly.

I have insane amounts of firepower and can even shred Titans without too much trouble if it's 1vs1, but my mana reserves don't hold on for very long so I can't kill more than a few things before I have to go to a temple.

[Anonymous No.6269789]

>>6267913
Are you suggesting sexualising calfs (calves?) is wrong?

>>6268158
Kek'd

[Anonymous No.6269858]

>yfw we will NEVER EVER get a new non-mobile HoMM game, good or bad

[Anonymous No.6269867]

>>6269858
Not a single game since III shipped in a finished state so I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing. TBS are exceptionally difficult to design and it would need an extremely passionate developer with a vision.

[Anonymous No.6269881]

>>6269783
Well, where are you at in the mainline quests? Probably time to ground through them. Also, promotion quests?

[Anonymous No.6269886]

Did a KKKK no-magic run the other year
>Figured out there was no drawback to running around insane all the time
>Might shrine located out on an island; inaccessible until later in the game
>Axe Master quest involves a slime spawning behind you and blocking a door. Had to go into the rest screen and starve myself to death

[Anonymous No.6269898]

>>6268905
>>6268926
>>6268948
Fast speedrun times for Roland campaign involve saving the dwarves every time. This map can be run very quick whereas the benefit of having free units on every consecutive map speeds you up much later.

[Anonymous No.6269915]

>>6269858
At this point HoMM needs a reboot and/or a serious reexamining where the series can go from there. Because since HoMM V we've been threading the same water of "HoMM III but with fancier graphics".

[Anonymous No.6269925]

>>6269915
That's really unfair. 6 and 7 don't really play like 3. I don't understand the desire to turn the game into something completely different, at that point just make a different IP (like AoW or Songs of Conquest). 4, 5, 6 and 7 all had ideas on how to move the game forward mechanically but literally not a single game shipped finished and working. It needs direction and vision to be successful but they don't have to be entirely new direction and vision. It's not like it's impossible to sell a turn-based tactical game in this day and age (Fire Emblem series comes to mind). But first and foremost it must be a good, finished, polished fucking game that people would actually want to play. I'm working through H7 content right now and the game is a buggy, poorly thought out piece of shit, that's what turned people away, not that it's an awkward lovechild of H5 and H6.

[Anonymous No.6270026]

>>6269925
Not him but:
Ashan fucking sucks as a setting, Arantir was the only remotely interesting character and Dark Messiah was the only interesting game. 5 was alright gameplay wise but that was a long time ago. The writing sucked. Raelag/Agrael is Spazz Maticus tier.
Reboot the series 50 years after Armageddon's blade, 4/MM9 didn't happen, stay away from weird broke ass writing like Tarnum/Gelu/Kilgore/Sword of Frost. Set it on another world/spaceship/whatever if you need to include a Kreegan faction, one where whatever version of Escaton died on his way there. Set it in Karigor. Anything but Ashan and MUH DRAGON GODS. I haven't spent money on Might and Magic since HOMM5 because of Ubisoft and the sheer number of autistic Slavs still stuck on HOMM3 and writing patches/expansions to MM6-8 must mean something

[Anonymous No.6270034]

>>6270026
Really just retcon Armageddon's blade while you're at it "Lucifer Kreegan" and whatever that half-Kreegan hero was, it sucked. Did you bitch about Forge like a faggot when it happened? This is your fault. This is why we get Factory in HoTA because they chimped out over Forge and think cowboys are more theme appropriate.

[Anonymous No.6270047]

>>6270026
>setting setting setting
This just reminds me of pages upon pages of autistic bullshit on Heroescommunity where people kept talking about setting and how much they hate Ashan, spoiler alert setting does NOT matter. Make a game first, write setting for it later. If setting inhibits the game, change it. These games keep failing because they suck balls as games, not because of Le Breton's attempts at worldbuilding.

[Anonymous No.6270057]

>>6270047
>autistic bullshit on Heroescommunity where people kept talking about setting and how much they hate Ashan,
They were right
>setting does NOT matter.
It does if you bore me to death (WHAT A SURPRISE IT WAS BIARA AGAIN BECAUSE I'M INTELLECTUALLY BANKRUPT)
>These games keep failing because they suck balls as games, not because of Le Breton's attempts at worldbuilding.
If someone keeps attempting and failing they should be replaced in a perfect world but I'm sure the demands of nepotism are at play in this industry, like any other

Base it on 3. Fix shit that didn't work or get rid of it.(ex. Eagle eye) Take things that worked from 4 and 5 and try to incorporate them. STOP THERE. That wasn't so hard? Now you should have something that isn't just 3 done over again.
But what do I know I'm just a consumer backseat game designer not giving this shit money

[Anonymous No.6270091]

>>6269898
ah okay cool

[Anonymous No.6270095]

>>6270047
>spoiler alert setting does NOT matter.
It's not the most important thing, but it matters a bit if it influences town creature setup, homm5 was just too bland in regards to that, while homm1-3 worked fine with its themes.
Homm4 was mostly fine in regards to that despite overall being a terrible game, only the sylvan faction was bad in regards to blandness.

[Anonymous No.6270129]

>>6270095
>mashing undead and demons in one faction BECAUSE REASONS is fine
No, it' was not.

[Anonymous No.6270154]

>>6270129
But was it worse than blowing budget to hire French bondage satan comic artist to design a really awful and forgettable Dungeon?
>BRING BACK ALVAR MERCHANT GUILD

[Anonymous No.6270174]

>>6270154
What's this story

[Anonymous No.6270208]

>>6270174
>What's this story
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivier_Ledroit
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/olivier_ledroit_interview.shtml

[Anonymous No.6270294]

>>6270026
>>6270047
>>6270095
Personally i really liked the Ashan setting, but it annoys me to no fucking end that it has NEVER been properly explored or used. They ignore all the interesting stuff, and focus on the most generic fantasy aspects. I hate this so much. Ashan has potential, but they decided to never explore it. I don't know who's responsible for this godawful world building, but they should be hired.

[Anonymous No.6270321]

>>6270294
Shit i meant fired

[Anonymous No.6270349]

>>6270057
>campaign player
yikes

[Anonymous No.6270404]

>>6270154
>But was it worse than blowing budget to hire French bondage satan comic artist to design a really awful and forgettable Dungeon?
Warlock had a hard life.

[Anonymous No.6270430]

Ubi should've made Dungeon into an underground lizardpeople faction instead of just another "edgy elves" DnD/WH ripoff.

[Anonymous No.6270667]

>>6270430
>DnD/WH ripoff
MM trogs had very little lore but I love them
Now?
>I WORSHIP THE BDSM ASPECT OF MUH DRAGON GOD

[Anonymous No.6270702]

>>6270667
Don't kinkshame.

[Anonymous No.6271919]

>>6270702
>I CAN'T GET MY WEEWEE HARD IF I DON'T DO WEIRD SHIT I SAW IN PORN
if anything there's not enough kinkshaming

[Anonymous No.6272056]

>>6271919
Do you want to talk to a specialist about it? Would you like some help?

[Anonymous No.6272162]

Man, I don't even know where to go from here. The main things I have left are to be in the temple of the moon at midnight on a full moon (I always seem to miss it), to find the prince of thieves or some shit and to do that one dungeon on the New Sorpgil island that I've been putting off forever because it looks horrendous.

What's the best way to go exterminating everything in the Dragonsands, that doesn't require anything I don't have?

[Anonymous No.6272168]

>>6272162
You should be able to manhandle Gharik's Forge at this point. Prince of Thieves is trivial at your level. You haven't done the memory crystals?

[Anonymous No.6272179]

>>6272168
>You haven't done the memory crystals?
The what?

[Anonymous No.6272208]

>>6272168
Of course he didn't because prince of thieves quest is needed to be finished before giving the access to oracle from the council.

[Anonymous No.6272210]

>>6270294
>>6270026
I'm with anon.
The idea of a grand civil religious war and One God having monopoly of the overworld is rad.
But its also a game where it doesn't explore that at all, to do poor generic fantasy. With the compliment of ripping of Warhammer Fantasy without getting anything back for it.

HOMM under NWC explores the idea of murderhobos capitalizing on their power, taking over the world, and then try to have dynasties.
Its pretty rad.

[Anonymous No.6272223]

>>6272210
>people have been enjoy the same game for 20 years
Oh no, how horrible! A game with longevity!
The only swamp is in the head of the faggot who made this picture.

[Anonymous No.6272276]

>>6272223
He is suppose to be a cynic bastard.
Simply put: There is money in the HOMM and MM brands, money that Ubisoft is not willing to spend the effort to make.
Its similar to how Disney is not willing to spend the effort needed to rake in money from Star Wars 7-9.

[Anonymous No.6272331]

>>6272162
As others have said, Prince of Thieves is surprising you skipped it - it's incredibly low-level. Gharik's Forge does kind of suck but you have to suck it up and get it over with to progress to endgame

[Anonymous No.6272338]

>>6272331
>As others have said, Prince of Thieves is surprising you skipped it - it's incredibly low-level.
The reward wasn't good enough for me to go out of my way for, mostly just couldn't be bothered.

>Gharik's Forge does kind of suck but you have to suck it up and get it over with to progress to endgame
:<

[Anonymous No.6272362]

>>6272338
Gharik's is pretty easy with 3 master daggers jamming everyone up and judicious use of doors and geometry

[Anonymous No.6272393]

>>6272362
>3 master daggers
I never invested a single point into daggers.

Honestly, if I were redoing this I'd go with a more balanced party of PACS, and minmax the fuck out of things. SSSC is nice, and Shrapmetaling in the face like a rapid fire shotgun is cool and all, but even now that I've reloaded for a bunch of + Dark Magic rings in the shop it can't really deal with huge volumes of Dragons or whatever as they just rape me too quickly and Shrapmetal just takes too much mana so this shotgun spam can only fire for twelve seconds or whatever.

Think I'd rather have had a Paladin with dual wielded swords going at the enemy like a Tazmanian devil.

[Anonymous No.6272461]

>>6272393
>Shrapmetal just takes too much mana
Starburst and Meteor is pretty good at 4 and 7 points respectively.

[Anonymous No.6272568]

>>6272210
The only weakness of NWC Might and Magic was not giving you the option to murder Roland and Catherine in 8 for maximum comedic effect

[Anonymous No.6272578]

Should I complete the quest to return this, or should I just pretend I never found it, don't visit him again and just use it myself?

[Anonymous No.6272596]

>>6272578
Why not just fucking go and see what completing the quest get you and decide for yourself instead of asking here?

[Anonymous No.6272602]

>>6272596
Because the internet says it's money, 10k exp and +100 karma, none of which I really need.

[Anonymous No.6272629]

>>6272602
Hmm, should I tell him? Or should I be a dick?

[Anonymous No.6272640]

>>6272578
It fucking owns if you master dagger/master hour of power. Keep it

[Anonymous No.6272718]

>>6272578
You are unlikely to even get "of Darkness"(Swift + Vamp) on items unless you farm from it, since its in one of the highest enchantment tiers.
I mean, this game has Item and Enchantment tiers, and if I remember correctly the Spell caps at Magic Tier 3.
See http://mm6world.ru/6_modif.htm

The main reason you want to farm Dragons past some point is that they drop Tier 6 gear with the possibility of Tier 6 enchantments.
Which means "Of Darkness" as a possibility on weapons, and something quite else for armors.

[Anonymous No.6272737]

>>6272718
Are the golden pyramids reliable for it at all? I wasn't able to test that out and it's another month and a bit before I can get to the circus again.

>>6272640
So I'm hearing a "keep", then. Is master dagger really worth it?

[Anonymous No.6272750]

>>6272737
With it without greyface patch?
Because with, expert is ALWAYS worth it for daggers.
I also can't remember if the crit mechanic for daggers ignores hit chance or not.

[Anonymous No.6272765]

>>6272737
>Are the golden pyramids reliable for it at all?
I have Divine Daggers of Darkness, Dragon, Thunderbolts, Ice, Power and Gods, 6 of each. And shitload of other tier 6 stuff, all from exchanging pyramids.
>So I'm hearing a "keep", then.
Huh, okay, I'm gonna be a dick.
<==

[Anonymous No.6272770]

>>6272765
>I'm NOT gonna be a dick

[Anonymous No.6272846]

>>6269898
I guess I should stick with sorceress to the end of the campaign? Having my own dwarves + free dwarves (which I can upgrade if needed) seems like the best way?

[Anonymous No.6272903]

>>6272276
>There is money in the HOMM and MM brands
I'm not so sure. One is a game too slow for zoomers to appreciate and the other is babby's first D&D ripoff.

[Anonymous No.6272917]

>>6272765
>pic
Ah okay, I slightly considered that possibility but I didn't think it likely at all.

When December rolls around, I'm planning on cleaning out the circus and getting a billion item upgrades.

[Anonymous No.6273064]

>>6272750
I'm playing without the patch and triple damage is working, it utterly destroys sorcs/mages/warlocks/grand druids/Longfang.
I just need better knives is all

[Anonymous No.6273109]

>>6272903
"too slow" eh?
In the modern day media where FTL, Into the Breach, Total War, Darkest Dungeon and other games do well?

My main complaint about 5 is that it takes a very fast TBS game, and slows it down almost a tenfold with mediocre 3D animations.
It looks pretty, but the speed cost stacks up badly as the series went on to 6 and 7.
I think a core problem is that TBS is a very very very fast genre, if you allow it to be.
But if its a slow genre due waiting for animations and input autism, you are failing the genre.

Addendum:
The need for good fantasy games has still not gotten away and will not go away.
Industry might have recovered from the LOTR craze, but the demand is still there.

[Anonymous No.6273195]

>>6273109
>pic
heh

[Anonymous No.6273236]

Fucking shipwreck survivors

[Anonymous No.6273269]

>>6273236
god damn, I thought shipwreck survivor items were limted to tier 1 or something

[Anonymous No.6273381]

>>6272578
Turn it in. You get 30000 gold AND keep the weapon. The quest npc isn't impressed and doesn't want it, but still pays you.

[Anonymous No.6273537]

>>6270026
>Dark Messiah
Is it really that good? I swear to god, this game has the biggest "fuck you player" design I've seen in a while. Or it's me being an idiot who doesn't understand how this game works. Somehow I've been missing 90% of the loot and apparently I've build my character wrong (mage/warrior), so halfway through the game he is useless.

[Anonymous No.6273549]

>>6272903
Didn't Ubi tried to release MM X? How did it went and how was that game? Given that nobody is talking about it, I think I have my answer.

[Anonymous No.6273559]

>>6273549
It's not bad but it doesn't really feel like Might and Magic. It's a tile based game but they lose most of the series defining spells and force you into a very linear game unlike MM3-5.

[Anonymous No.6273607]

>>6273381
Thanks for not being a cunt about it.

[Anonymous No.6273625]

>almost have the correct version of homm2 running with the opera music
>make an image guide how to set it up
>game freezes after combat
bah, I'll fix it tomorrow


note, I can get the game running and play it, just not in my preferred way.

[Anonymous No.6273659]

>>6273549
Not him, but it was the first M&M game i was actually able to play, possibly because I'm a brainlet, but i just couldn't play the older ones, it always went terribly.
Either way, i liked ot very much, and would say it's great if it wasn't for some game breaking bugs that literally stopped me from progressing and required me to edit game files to play it. I think at the very least it gave me enough of an idea of how to play m&m games, and it gets tons of points for that. Like the other anon said, it's more linear than other m&m games, but it doesn't make it bad, because it makes the game more accessible to people who never played those games.

[Anonymous No.6273697]

>>6273607
Maybe the guy who takes up half the thread abusing multiple anon's patience by asking them to walk him through every single part of the game that makes him even slightly uncertain is the one being a cunt.
Can't even believe there are people still trying to help you, there are some really nice and patient folk ITT.

[Anonymous No.6273727]

>>6273697
It's... fun. It's nice seeing the game through fresh eyes. I'm glad he's doing it, and hope he plays 7 next.

[Anonymous No.6273731]

Question from that one brainlet who never played MM before. Which is better - MM 6 or 7?
I am personally leaning towards 7, because it seems it has more robust character creator, but then I have no experience with MM games.

[Anonymous No.6273738]

6 had better graphical design and I always felt like more sidequesting to be done, but 7 builds on 6 in a lot of the design space. You're also locked from the higher level spells and potions in 7 so there's a more satisfying curve rather than being able to cheese right out the gate

[Anonymous No.6273743]

>>6273549
It's actually enjoyable and could be used as a base to make something great if they try their hand again with another entry.. The tile combat is... unique, not really my thing. You can easily fuck up your builds which makes the game unplayable since enemies don't respawn, meaning you cant farm and level up--which means you have to restart if you're stuck on an enemy. The world is comfy and its relaxing to play, just not something you'll return to. Imo, it's the best thing ubi has done so far, gives me a smidge of hope.

[Anonymous No.6273765]

>>6273743
What they should've taken from old MM titles:
open-ended experience and specific idiosyncrasies like choices, promotions, setting twists
What they took from old MM titles:
tile movement and D&D

Yeah no fuck Limbic, they don't understand what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.6273791]

>>6273537
I haven't played since it was out, it's probably not a great game but a good Might and Magic game, easily one of the stronger Ubi games,
Plus it had multiplayer
And this thread you know
We don't ever talk about it
LEGENDS OF MIGHT AND MAGIC
>tfw u will never Force Wand people into acid in the DUNGEONS OF DRAGADUNE again

[Anonymous No.6273794]

>>6273791
>WE WANT COUNTER-STRIKE AUDIENCE
Yikes my dude.

[Anonymous No.6273802]

>>6273727
Same, the only time anon was annoying was having a sperg fit about item enchantment

[Anonymous No.6273807]

>>6273794
I remember when it was supposed to be a co-op RPG on LITHTECH lmfao

[Anonymous No.6273817]

MM MMO ideas
go

[Anonymous No.6273821]

>>6273537
i mean you can literally just play the game using exclusively the kick

[Anonymous No.6273827]

>>6273817
Would probably have to play more like action rpgs than normal MM games. You should be able to change your builds anytime, too, so that people playing healers don't have a shit time lvling solo, cuz otherwise the game would be all dps and no other classes. Spells like fly or town portal avaible to everyone for free movement across the maps, not restricted to only mages. You can use them to enter high lvl locations early on and get your ass kicked... or get carried by others for easy fast exp.

[Anonymous No.6273831]

>>6273817
Is it pvp centric or not
Is it ubi or nwc
Like it should be about rival gangs of murder hobos fighting each other with lasers to the consternation of the peasantry
Playable races:
>human
>elf
>dwarf
>goblin
>troll
>troglodyte
>minotaur
>bee

[Anonymous No.6273840]

>>6273817
>MMO

[Anonymous No.6273843]

>>6273831
>bee
imagine a pvp centric m&m mmo where you actually have to have fights between various factions over land and resources, and be rewarded bonuses based on your nation's state.
Also, please don't forget the undead. I wanna play as a spooky skelebro.

[Anonymous No.6273845]

>>6273821
No, not really. You run out of kick stamina very quickly and it's effectiveness is random as fuck.
Sometimes an orc flies across the map and into the spikes, sometimes it just annoys your opponents who then smack you in the face with a sword. This "realistic" Source engine physics fucked me over more times than I can count.

[Anonymous No.6273848]

>>6273817
Dungeons offer a unique experience from the world map. You can form a party of four with other players when you enter a dungeon. Party leader can decide if the combat is turn based or real-time.

[Anonymous No.6273852]

>>6273848
as interesting as it would be, i don't think a turn-based mmo would catch on. Speaking from my experience with raids in the newest pokemon games, it gets annoying as fuck, because you just wait forever for everyone to make their move.

[Anonymous No.6273857]

>>6273845
i admit it's random, but i've never had terrible stamina issues despite abusing the hell out of kick.

[Anonymous No.6273927]

>>6273802
>the only time anon was annoying was having a sperg fit about item enchantment
My bad, but my mind was being warped trying to understand the rabbit hole I was falling down and couldn't understand why I wasn't getting any good modifiers and trying to piece together clues from badly translated Russian websites.
Until somebody finally mentioned you simply can't enchant for every modifier. Whoops.

[Anonymous No.6274161]

>>6273927
Well, here's my remaining quests. The dwarf one I've been not really wanting to bother with as I don't need master axe training and it's two places to clear out, the book of liches sounds like a nightmare to do from the enemy list and looking at the size / complexity of the map, plus I don't see any interesting rewards for it. The hourglass I got practically on day one and have been putting it off ever since.

Probably missed a few random quests from either the Frozen Highlands or Blackwater, but oh well.

Can't stop myself collecting every shiny thing and selling it for yet more gold. What the fuck am I supposed to even do with 760k gold?
Help, I have a problem.

>>6273727
This is exactly why I'm detailing my adventures and misadventures here, you only get to play a game for the first time once and the only sorta way around that is to live vicariously through somebody who's playing for the first time and talking about it. I love it when people do what I'm doing and I figure some others would too.

[Anonymous No.6274182]

hey homm bros
anyone playin on the homm 5.5 mod?
trying it now but some new heroes seem way overpowered to me
What's your take on it?

[Anonymous No.6274184]

>>6274161
Time to do Gharik's Forge. The place is nasty, especially with the wide open spaces where fire elementals break your items and warlocks nuke you down with big energy damage and drive you insane over and over. If you get stuck where you needed a key it's actually in a chest in the Silver Helm Outpost in Mist.

[Anonymous No.6274205]

>>6274161
>book of liches
You do this when you have the main quest to go there

[Anonymous No.6274206]

>>6273236
>homm2
>survivor gives you tax lien

[Anonymous No.6274237]

>>6274206
Oy vey

[Anonymous No.6274239]

>>6274182
Isn't Zehir a campaign hero? It's okay for a hero that isn't in the generic pool to have OP specialization.

[Anonymous No.6274247]

>>6274239
with that mod no he's not
bummed about this cause otherwise it's an excellent mod

[Anonymous No.6274256]

>>6274205
>I'm going to have to go there anyway
Fug.

>LITERALLY JUST NOW discovered I only needed 7 Bodybuilding for Master rank, not 12
Fucking hell fuck me, I would have sworn up and down I needed 12 for this shit, feel like I've wasted a bunch of points now. Gonna go murder hobo some dragons like a whirling dervish to make to feel better.

[Anonymous No.6274257]

>>6274256
15 more health per level up isn't that bad.
Its even more on Might classes.

[Anonymous No.6274259]

>>6274257
I'd prefer a bunch more "hot shrapnel in their faces", if possible.

[Anonymous No.6274265]

>play homm2 a few years ago
>on w7 and 64bit
>not on dos, windows version with the correct music
>now when I try to do the same, still w7 and 64bit the game freezes as soon as combat ends

[Anonymous No.6274269]

>>6274265
just use GoG copy, they even let you choose SW or PoL soundtrack when installing.

[Anonymous No.6274279]

>>6274269
Even with the GoG version the game freezes like this after combat.

[Anonymous No.6274307]

>>6274265
I'm playing gog DOS version, no problem. You can choose the right music here, PoL was default and I had to change it.

[Anonymous No.6274330]

>>6274161
I've heard on the grape vine that you can only find a max of 13 artifacts per game and then no more or something, and if you get a bad one you should reload.

Is this one of the 'good' ones? Are there any of them that are auto keeps and I should be watching out for? Especially for an SSSC party.

[Anonymous No.6274345]

>>6274330
nice harem

[Anonymous No.6274358]

>>6274330
>Is this one of the 'good' ones?
WHOA, RACIST

[Anonymous No.6274361]

>>6274345
Man, I've been waiting for that comment since day one.

[Anonymous No.6274385]

>>6274330
>...
Well, not every preset counts towards the Artifact cap. And it doesn't help that there is Artifacts and Relics too.
Beyond that, in 6 most of the Relics + Artifacts is just high end weapons with 2x-3x modifiers. They are good sure, but not a lot of them is amazing.

I do like Percival, Galahad and Morgana.

[Anonymous No.6274393]

>>6274385
I was a little startled until I realised there's nine of them and not just the one, I doubt the effect stacks though so my second sorc can have it.

[Anonymous No.6274409]

>>6274393
When you do this you save on a bunch of healing/mana

[Anonymous No.6274410]

>>6274182
Overall I like it a lot, although sometimes the mod seems too much. Also, some design decisions are... weird. Is there a reason why only Stronghold Warchief heroes get the Rage ability, and other Stronghold classes get jack shit? It kinda removes the unique gimmick from the Stronghold. Especially since all Necropolis heroes (Necromancer, Death Knight, Reaver) retain Necromancy as their primary ability.

[Anonymous No.6274417]

>>6274409
>When you do this
What, stack two of them together?

[Anonymous No.6274425]

>>6274393
Swiftness do stack for D-wield.
But its 40 attack delay instead of 50 from off handingn a swift weapon.
Lifesteal doesn't stack, since its 20% for the weapon. So its 2x20%

[Anonymous No.6274442]

>>6274393
Found I could reload before examining the corpse of a Supreme Titan / Gold Dragon and reroll for better stuff, if that wasn't obvious by now. This and a handful of relics were all I really got out of it though.

Time for Gharik's Forge, at least it shouldn't be so bad now as long as I mind my step.

[Anonymous No.6274490]

>>6274442
Even looking at a map of this hellhole I can't figure out what to do here, there is no redeeming quality to this place, change my mind.

All 8 doors to this room are open, doesn't seem to do anything though.

[Anonymous No.6274515]

>>6274490
There is a switch to open a elevator down, to progress.
Its hard to spot due color.
The room itself is a easy puzzle

[Anonymous No.6274517]

>>6274490
Nevermind, eventually found one lever that moved the bridge over, though whatever combo of levers needed to be pulled to open the little side room I was seeing on the map continues to elude me.
Still fuck this place.

[Anonymous No.6274528]

>>6274517
It's not as annoying as Hall of the Fire Lord the first time you do it

[Anonymous No.6274535]

>>6274515
>There is a switch to open a elevator down, to progress.
>Its hard to spot due color.
If this is a troll, you got me good.
If it's not a troll, damn I guess I'm blind as I just went through every passageway in the area staring carefully at the walls for hidden switches and didn't find shit.

>>6274528
>Hall of the Fire Lord
Well at least that's an optional quest. Thank fuck.

[Anonymous No.6274539]

>>6264637
>>6264656
What I'm doing right now is testing the map with "unfair" town match-ups, e.g. I'm Conflux and my enemies are Inferno and Fortress. This way I can see how the map would be for a player who is way better than me.

[Anonymous No.6274573]

>>6274490
There is one redeeming quality

It's not the worst mainline dungeon

[Anonymous No.6274576]

>>6274573
Damn there are so many contenders too

[Anonymous No.6274654]

>>6274573
It'd better be the worst I have left between me and the end of the game at least, getting real fucking sick of having to stop mid fight to repair a dozen items that have just broken every time.

[Anonymous No.6274669]

>>6274654
>>6274490
Thats why they added item hardening alchemy in MM7.
And only why they added it.

[Anonymous No.6274671]

>>6274307
I was gonna give up and just go for the dos version, but didn't have a GoG dos version in my downloads for some reason, just a non gog dos version with the wrong music.
Decided to give it another go before asking you which GoG version you had which included dos and made sure to uninstall everything homm2 related before and restart my computer, and now it worked.

[Anonymous No.6274774]

>>6273537
I liked it. It was good how many of the skills led to distinct ways of approaching things instead of just flat bonuses/damage... Although I agree it could've implemented/balanced better (a mid-game respec opportunity wouldn't hurt either). Some demon form enhancing skills would've been interesting too.

Pretty decent (especially at the time), but it's not a game I'm compelled to keep going back to.

[Anonymous No.6274783]

[Anonymous No.6274796]

>playing mm7

>huntard first promo quest
>go and talk to a faerie
>paladin first promo quest
>kill a fucking dragon
perfectly_calm.jpg

[Anonymous No.6274835]

>>6274796
Have a suitable reaction pic.

[Anonymous No.6274932]

Do you ever build giants in homm2?
It just feels so wrong because of the heavy upgrade costs, and the gem cost delays the titans, but I wonder if the tempo might be worth it since they could clear up a lot of stuff

[Anonymous No.6274941]

>>6274932
I think wizard is just as bad as knight.

[Anonymous No.6275018]

>>6274796
>2nd Cleric promotion quest
>Pillage a temple of shit tier Sun/Moon guys
>Easy as shit

>Cavalier to Champion
>2nd highest Arena difficulty x 5
>Wizard to Arch Mage/Lich
>Raid the enemy faction's initiating grounds, and try to find a hidden McGuffinn

[Anonymous No.6275024]

>>6274796
>2nd druid promotion quest

>Arch Druid
>Just kill some gogs

>Warlock
>Go to fucking Eeofol and raid a Dragon Cave

[Anonymous No.6275032]

>>6267664
Wait what for real? Which games does this apply to?

[Anonymous No.6275037]

>>6275032
That anon most likely meant 4 but it applies to a different extent to all of them

[Anonymous No.6275046]

>>6265445
>>6266168
>>6266242
For me, its >>6266143 sprites. I was particularly fond of the ones in IV.

[Anonymous No.6275053]

>>6275046
Would you spank them?

[Anonymous No.6275054]

>>6275046
Actually I take that back ive always been passionate for shiva.

[Anonymous No.6275069]

>>6275037
I have noticed the AI in 4 seems to outright skip over certain monsters.
Might go back to 4 soon. God I wish it had more large and XL maps. Is the gog version any different from the box version?
I know it gets alot of hate but honestly, from a gameplay perspective its probably my favorite game. Its just the lack of large maps. 2 had the best maps hands down.
>>6275053
Only if we get feisty.

[Anonymous No.6275070]

>>6265445
For me it's Markal

[Anonymous No.6275106]

>>6274279
That's the windows version. You want to be playing the Dosbox version.

[Anonymous No.6275189]

>>6275018
RIP everyone not doing max diff arena the day he arrives in Harmondale when they have a knight and plan to take the good route.

[Anonymous No.6275191]

>>6275069
>Is the gog version any different from the box version?
No, it's just last official Winds of War patch.
>from a gameplay perspective its probably my favorite game
It's very unpolished. It needed another year in dev that it couldn't afford to really express what they were going for. I don't hate it but it's really not that great.

[Anonymous No.6275256]

>>6275189
I remember getting there, and realized the current Arena for my level was impossible with my team.
I had to acquire more gear, skill points, better enchantment levels, more spells, and come back later, and delaying levelling until I was ready.
And even then it was close.

There is also a few level ranges where too many forms of status effect party wipe monsters where spawned, and you lack the tools to deal with it.
It IS the hardest promotion quest.
Meanwhile if you do it at level 1 backup up by some scroll/potion/horse shoe roids, its very easy.

[Anonymous No.6275441]

>>6274783
>no homm2 bone dragon
faggot

[Anonymous No.6275464]

>>6275191
It did need more time in development, thats clear. But for what it is, I feel like its got alot of soul. It was going places.
But like I was saying with the maps, you can definately tell there was a development crunch just by the maps. Mostly small and medium maps, hastily made cause the game had to ship with something. I wonder if theres any more decent maps online, I used to go to some Russian one and download them for 3 all the time.

[Anonymous No.6275591]

>>6275441
>_<
I had both of these in my old homm folder, but I didn't look close enough and just grabbed one. They're both from 2014 and for some reason I didn't delete the first one.

[Anonymous No.6276000]

>>6273791
Looks rough. Hexen II & Heretic II did a way better job of fantasy deathmatch. Even that odd Wheel of Time fps is better.

[Anonymous No.6276021]

>>6276000
There were a lot of shit games 3DO were pushing out under the brand when it really hit off. It was actually one of the more profitable IPs they had back when their CEO was pants on head retarded with tanking the company with console business.

[Anonymous No.6276034]

>>6275591
Im quite fond of the rust and azure dragons in 3. Dont care for the other expansion ones though. Its a shame they weren't more prevalent though.

[Anonymous No.6276228]

>>6273791
I wish people talked about Legends more. It was the game that actually killed Heroes IV by 3DO sapping literally all of NWC resources, including JVC himself, to work on that game while Heroes IV was left with scraps (2 programmers including the lead designer). And it fucking sucked and bombed in the end, too.

[Anonymous No.6276241]

>>6276228
All I know is I played with a clan of retarded TOOL fans for awhile

[Anonymous No.6276345]

>>6274796

The idea was Rangers were shittier than Paladins, so their promo quest was "easier" for balance reasons. Same with certain skill mastery (GM Armsmaster is a bitch) - this balance "mechanic" shows up in other MM games.

[Anonymous No.6276361]

>>6276345
>BUT RANGERS ARE THE ONLY CLASS WITH GM ID MONSTER
what did nwc mean

[Anonymous No.6276364]

High tier: necromancer, warlock
Mid tier: sorceress, barbarian
Low tier: wizard, knight

[Anonymous No.6276409]

>>6276364
knight is dope

[Anonymous No.6276425]

Started a good campaign run after seeing anon playing it. Picking Knight castle every chance I get and making Knight heroes my mains when i don't have a choice of main castle, will probably make an exception for Eliza.

I've yet to build a Cathedral and I often have one hero with an army of Champions+Sorc creatures from a conquered town.

[Anonymous No.6276427]

>>6276425

[Anonymous No.6276428]

>>6276427

[Anonymous No.6276437]

>>6276425
>>6276428
Well, you're already further than me, I only finished the third map.

[Anonymous No.6276439]

>>6276437
I'll ease it with screenshots then to avoid spoilers.

[Anonymous No.6276443]

>>6276439
I don't mind spoiler. Do you like knight anyway? Why don't you just play as sorceress with knight heroes?

[Anonymous No.6276448]

>>6276443
I like Knight, but I'm doing it to see how well picking Knight would do.

[Anonymous No.6276637]

>The last dipshit who asked advice from the Oracle forgot to put him on charge, and now I have to journey across the land for some double AAs to get the job done

[Anonymous No.6276946]

>>6276637
It was Archibald being a chad/dick

[Anonymous No.6276951]

>>6276637
It wouldn't be so bad if somebody didn't leave the last Duracell battery inside castle Darkmoor.
Fuck Archibald, our savior.

[Anonymous No.6277183]

how do you play this stupid faction early game, or is mutare's campaign just shit?

[Anonymous No.6277187]

>>6277183
Troglodyte rushing.
OR
Early harpy hags
OR
Ranged supremacy via Beholders and Meduas
But more likely: Manticore rushing & shitload of Magic.

[Anonymous No.6277197]

>>6277187
i figured skip harpies and lean heavily on magic. minotaurs are wicked though but never have the gemeralds in time. dumb faction, don't like.

[Anonymous No.6277223]

>Dude try Axeoth campaigns in 7!
>They're written by Heroes 4 writer and designed by Marzhin!
>first map you just go round the map tagging hotspots and lightning bolting everything with your infinite mana
At this point I'm just doing this to myself aren't I
Ironically Heroes IV overworld music fits the bright island setting really well unlike cat noises Roc Chen whipped up

[Anonymous No.6277238]

>MM10 Legacy wiht 75% discount on steams
Worth it? I heard mixed things about that game.

[Anonymous No.6277257]

>>6277223
>>Dude try Axeoth campaigns in 7!
LET'S GIVE EVERYBODY WHAT THEY DON'T WANT!

[Anonymous No.6277261]

>>6277238
You know if I werent't in a poor African country with an impending coup I would grab it for the sweet sweet DRM

[Anonymous No.6277262]

>>6277261
france really so bad these days?

[Anonymous No.6277275]

>>6277183
I dont know what to tell ya boss. To be quite honest I don't really care for them myself, even though warlock was my fave in 2. The dragons and minotaurs are badass, but the rest of the units are mediocre. The castle itself is cool but the city and its soundtrack are bleh.
When I play them I generally try to push powerful magic hero with alot of evil eyes and medusas.
At least they're better in III than IV. They fucking butchered them in IV.

[Anonymous No.6277280]

>>6277197
>skip harpies
I do the same. Harpies are fucking stupid. I want a quick decisive blow, not them flying back and forth wasting my time.

[Anonymous No.6277283]

>>6277183
Mutare was fairly hard. I upgrade harpies and trogs usually.

[Anonymous No.6277308]

>>6277238
People were discussing mmx yesterday in this thread. Can read those posts and see if you want to nab it.

[Anonymous No.6277324]

>>6277262
Actual Africa not Virtual Africa

[Anonymous No.6277361]

>>6277324
the line is blurring

[Anonymous No.6277364]

>>6277361
Was JVC...
A NEO NAZI???

[Anonymous No.6277669]

Ok what the fuck is wrong with this game? Whats the deal with the AI just ignoring the random armies guarding loot (and consequently the loot itself)? Why is the AI so bad? I put it on moderate or hard. I dont get this shit.

[Anonymous No.6277985]

>>6264597
This

[Anonymous No.6277989]

>>6276637
Next you will have to find his portable recharger in the biggest dungeon of the whole franchise.

[Anonymous No.6277990]

>>6268158
Was there ever a mod that increased undead populations during plague?

[Anonymous No.6277995]

>>6266174
You probably could, she wears "rape me" armor.

[Anonymous No.6278001]

>>6270430
I wish they had kept the diverse mix of creatures making up each town.

[Anonymous No.6278012]

>>6277669
The game was rushed, that's what. 3 was more finished.

[Anonymous No.6278020]

>>6270430
Making the towns more mono-racial was one of their biggest blunders. Only Haven should ever have been like that.

[Anonymous No.6278029]

>>6272056
>talk to a jew
Why?

[Anonymous No.6278119]

>>6276637
It's always been my headcanon that the Crystals were given for study to each of the three evil factions in HoMM2, and that the Kreegan homed in on the Barbarian one near Sweet Water for their arrival

[Anonymous No.6278134]

>>6278020
>Only Haven should ever have been like that.
Because every unit in Necropolis and Inferno are obviously of a different RACE, yeah.
We can't have medusas, troglodytes and nagas along with basilisks, hydras and dragons be in the same town, that would be heresy.
Also, Sylvan should've been faction full of beastmen like centaurs, satyrs and harpies. Because fuck elves.

[Anonymous No.6278207]

>>6278029
>give money to a jew
Why?

[Anonymous No.6278239]

>>6277361

[Anonymous No.6278254]

>>6277364
More like
NEO BASED

[Anonymous No.6278284]

>>6278134
I'd never put harpies in with sylvan. They dont fit the aesthetic at all.

[Anonymous No.6278348]

>>6278134
>Because every unit in Necropolis and Inferno are obviously of a different RACE, yeah.
Necropolis started as an evil Knight mirror so it's okay and Inferno is pretty diverse, you have dog demons, succubi, pig demons, demon demons, I mean, it's unfair to just call all mortally challenged the same race!

[Anonymous No.6278386]

>>6277669
>Why is the AI so bad
1) Game was rushed into publishing by about 8 months
2) AI scipt is flat-out broken, especially in non-campaign situations
3) Due to being broken, AI has certain quirks to its behaviour and can easily end up "looping"
4) Play camaigns and campaigns only, where AI is properly scripted, while the campaigns are the main selling point of this game (they are really fucking good, literally peak of the series)

[Anonymous No.6278390]

>>6278284
>half-human half-animal from Greek mythology
>dont fit the aesthetic
>>6278348
>skeleton with sword, skeleton with staff, floating skeleton in a rag, skeleton (?) in armor on a horse
>red horned dude with fireballs, red horned dude with a whip, red horned dude with a scythe
Whoa, such diversity. H5 had like, what 3-4 units of a "titular" race in Sylvan and Dungeon?

[Anonymous No.6278634]

Okay, how do I get in here exactly?

This feels like one of those "We introduced crouch jumping at the start of the game but it was completely useless for the first 50 hours, and now it's mandatory" scenarios.

[Anonymous No.6278639]

>>6278390
Everyone's a skeleton when you're dead

[Anonymous No.6278671]

>>6278634

[Anonymous No.6278673]

>>6278671
Must I pay that wall jew, is there no other option?

[Anonymous No.6278676]

>>6278673
You CAN find the secret yourself. Or you can pay and reload after like a cheapskate.

[Anonymous No.6278686]

>>6278676
You can't outjew a jew like that!

[Anonymous No.6278687]

>>6278676
I like the idea of screwing him out of money so I tried it, it teleported me to a button at the top middle of the four octagonal rooms that I'd already pressed an hour ago.

What now?

[Anonymous No.6278692]

>>6278687
>What now?
Ehh... press the button?

[Anonymous No.6278697]

>>6278692
>Ehh... press the button?
>that I'd already pressed an hour ago.

[Anonymous No.6278707]

>>6278697
Read "pressed" as "passed", my bad.
Anyway, don't you have a Jump spell?

[Anonymous No.6278716]

>>6278707
>Anyway, don't you have a Jump spell?
Sure, three copies of it.
Have yet to find any single use for it though.

[Anonymous No.6278721]

>>6278707
>>6278716
>It squished me against the ceiling, then wiggled me through the hole when previously mashing X didn't work at all
What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.6278742]

[Anonymous No.6278762]

>>6278390
>H5 had like, what 3-4 units of a "titular" race in Sylvan and Dungeon?
It really was just Fortress that was bad.
People disliked Sylvan and Dungeon because they ditched classic creatrues in favor of OC donut steel elves. H7 rectified that a little but... It's H7.

[Anonymous No.6278764]

>>6278721
Dunno, checked myself now, regular jump works fine.
Also, yeah, apparently button unlocks orange bars, so telling you about Guardian while you already opened them was useless.
Sorry, forgot how it all worked.

[Anonymous No.6278840]

>>6278742

[Anonymous No.6278957]

>>6278386
homm is meant to be playes as a multiplayer, preferably hot seat

[Anonymous No.6279001]

>>6278957
>homm is meant to be playes as a multiplayer,
According to Ubi only about 20% of players ever engage in multiplayer at all---
>preferably hot seat
Oh, you're a professional retard.

[Anonymous No.6279083]

>>6278634
>>6278721
>'Old faithful' strategy I've been leaning on is to max buff myself and windmill my arms until everything falls down
>Castle Darkmoor

[Anonymous No.6279117]

>>6279083
Get a full set of rings (or any other item) of Alarms (L3) and of Sanity (L4) on you party. Also, dispel doesn't remove effects from potions and fountains.

[Anonymous No.6279120]

>>6277238
Ohh thanks, i was about to buy it anyway, will do it now.

[Anonymous No.6279124]

>>6279117
Also, Eyes drop L4-6 rings with 10-30% chance, if you don't have anti-madness items. Anti-sleep you can get from Enchant Item.

[Anonymous No.6279138]

>>6279083
>>6279117
>>6279124
Found a switch in the first half of this place and prodding the big red cube seemed to open a door.

Found a second switch in the next part, but the cube always seems to send me back to either the previous large cavern or a corridor leading to it. I'm missing something, perhaps not clicking the correct side of the cube or something, but I may be stuck.

Also, do some rooms spawn enemies when you walk through them? Tell me I'm not going insane here.

[Anonymous No.6279181]

>>6279138
Second cube just opens a passage when you activate it with second switch.

[Anonymous No.6279190]

>>6279181
Yeah, eventually muddled my way through it. Not sure if it was the intended way, but I got the crystal, destroyed the book, and got the fuck out.

Had really hoped to speedrun these last few missions and move onto other stuff for a little while to avoid burnout before I can even start MM7, no such luck with that castle though.

[Anonymous No.6279196]

Darkmoor was the perennial wallbanger from the earliest alt.binary MM6 discussions so the worst is over. My advice is that Superior Temple is more straightforward than Alamos but neither is as much a pain in the ass as what you just went through

[Anonymous No.6279203]

>>6279196
*Supreme Temple

[Anonymous No.6279234]

>>6279196
I wouldn't have even minded it so much, if it weren't for the fact that the floating eyes and their brethren always fuck off into the rafters at the start of battle and have a million hitpoints to take down with only bows since you can't fly indoors.

I literally picked up master bow just because of that one dungeon.

[Anonymous No.6279404]

>>6279234
Yeah that's definitely a disadvantage of going Shrapmetal-heavy or all-melee.

[Anonymous No.6279479]

>>6279196
Alamos is just big. If you know the path it's like 2 minutes, but finding all the trees and then solving the password takes forever. Tomb of VARN on the other hand takes forever even if you know the place.

[Anonymous No.6279713]

>>6279404
Should you just inferno them?

[Anonymous No.6279727]

>>6279713
Inferno's damage doesn't scale at all. It takes something like 20 casts to kill the maddening eyes. The best way is simply to ignore them when you get more than a couple and run through. If you have to attack, dragon breath will burn them fast, but it costs so much you can't do it often. Otherwise you are mostly stuck with bows.

[Anonymous No.6279757]

>>6279404
You could use Ice Bolt/Implosion.
Earth's Rock Throw or whatever its named is also good, but its also dangerous to use unlike Fireball.

[Anonymous No.6280121]

[Anonymous No.6280123]

>>6280121

[Anonymous No.6280276]

>>6280123

[Anonymous No.6280280]

>>6280276

[Anonymous No.6280481]

>>6280121
>>6280123
>>6280276
>>6280280
Was it autism?

[Anonymous No.6280512]

>>6279001
homm predates ubiquitous internet and PC, most multiplayer was played on LAN, but bantering with the boiz was much more preferable than staring off while thet finish their turn. If you played hotseat but did not like it, you are probably the minority.
also Ubi has little to do with homm, at least with /vr/ homm or homm iv for that matter. Their stats for nuhomm are irrelevant in this context

[Anonymous No.6280540]

>>6280512
>homm predates ubiquitous internet and PC, most multiplayer was played on LAN
Yet it had so many options. Hot seat, ipx-spx, tcp-ip local or internet, online service, direct cable, direct modem.

Today the ability of epic store and steam players being able to see each other is considered a huge feature, coming in patch 2.03a after the 6 month exclusive epic store time passed.

[Anonymous No.6280603]

>>6280481
naeh

[Anonymous No.6280656]

>tfw no k-gf to drink нoтб with

[Anonymous No.6280705]

>>6280656
>a fucking korea time post

[Anonymous No.6280784]

Darkmoor isn't so bad when you know what you're doing, which is frequently teleporting to New Sorpigal

[Anonymous No.6280914]

Darkmoor isn't so bad when you know what you're doing, which is quitting the game and slam dunking it into the trash.

[Anonymous No.6280980]

>>6280656
>>6280705
based
day9 played homm2 in his childhood, so tassles almost certainly did as well, so it's not off-topic.

[Anonymous No.6280982]

>>6280980
>Day9 playing Homm2
How did he do? How far did he get?

[Anonymous No.6280994]

>>6280982
I think he played until the final map of the evil campaign and said he might continue some other time.
Didn't go back to it iirc.
It wasn't his first time playing, he was used to it since childhood.

He did recently play homm3 for the first time though, he played like 1 campaign map, and then a few attempts as necropolis on randomly generated maps, went pretty poorly.

[Anonymous No.6281252]

What do you guys do when you have a random map game of heroes on lockdown, you're 100% sure you've won, but the map size means you're gonna need another 80 turns at least to just go around kicking all of the asses that need kicking?

[Anonymous No.6281274]

>>6281252
The final march is actually my favourite part of the game. But I don't play very big maps.

[Anonymous No.6281287]

>>6280121
>>6280123
>>6280276
>>6280280
I'm still trying to figure out what the point of this shit is I feel like I'm looking at a puzzle

[Anonymous No.6281293]

No obelisks on the map.

[Anonymous No.6281303]

>>6281252
nwcnebuchadnezzar

[Anonymous No.6281307]

>>6281274
>>6281303
I love this map, and especially adore the lore that's seeped into it, but the map is fucking huge and I've been chipping away at it for hours with less than 50% explored to show for it.

Got most of my guys with Expert Earth magic and Town Portal, with enough resources to never ever run out, but I'd have to do a fuckton of sailing and chasing down heroes to finish it off.

[Anonymous No.6281308]

>>6281307
>hota
oh, nevermind.

[Anonymous No.6281316]

>>6281307
Has a pleasant shape to it.

[Anonymous No.6281323]

>>6281316
http://www.heroes3maps.com/map/1814-ultima

It's based on something very nice, so yeah.

[Anonymous No.6281353]

>>6281252
TP+DD plus haste/slow/prayer so you can body their whole army before they cast magic arrow and run away.

[Anonymous No.6281449]

>>6280512
Player stats is the one thing I'd trust Ubisoft with because metrics is the only thing these megajews understand. It is supported by anecdotal evidence where a lot of people consider HoMM to be a solo game and playing with others is too slow or too boring (because believe it or not Jebus Cross playing the map meta is a recent thing).

>>6281308
>hating on hota
Hello hipster

[Anonymous No.6281491]

>>6272210
that image lmao

[Anonymous No.6282108]

>>6281307
>>6281323
>Ultima
Nice. I bet Lord British is on the map somewhere

[Anonymous No.6282417]

This isn't literal right, and instead means that it's under snow?

[Anonymous No.6282816]

>>6282417
I don't know for sure, but I think it is possible to find the grail still with enough luck, time and guesswork even if there are no obelisks.

[Anonymous No.6282885]

>>6282816
What grail? Does that look like 3 to you?

[Anonymous No.6282924]

>>6282885
I said grail because I couldn't think what the thing you dig up in 2 is called and figured you'd know what I meant if I said "grail".

[Anonymous No.6282925]

>>6282924
Ultimate artifacts. They come in different shapes.

[Anonymous No.6283047]

>>6282816
Are you implying every map has a buried artifact even if there are no obelisks?

[Anonymous No.6283085]

>>6283047
That's my theory, though I've never gone out of my way to test it.

Probably the best way to test it would be to have a small map, get a hint in the tavern, then have 3 or 4 heroes over two turns do nothing but dig out each tile in that area and reload until one strikes paydirt.

Alternative idea: in the editor make the smallest possible map with a single island in the middle with two towns on it and as little space as possible, play it two player hotseat and just set out to dig up the entirety of the little island and see if you get it or not.

[Anonymous No.6283112]

>>6283085
I created a small map, but for some reason I can't play it, game just froze when I pressed start button.

[Anonymous No.6283114]

>>6283112
I don't know the Heroes 2 map editor, but did you try validating the map?

Shift+V if it's the same as the Heroes 3 editor.

[Anonymous No.6283117]

>>6283114
It seems there is no validator in h2.

[Anonymous No.6283118]

>>6283117
Okay, I guess make it very slightly bigger? like maybe just enough to let it pretend it's a real map but in reality there's only 20 or so tiles or walkable space.

[Anonymous No.6283123]

>>6283118
I actually can't find this map in my game folder, maybe it wasn't even created at all?

[Anonymous No.6283124]

>>6283123
Weird. Try again I guess, don't forget to name it, cram like one lumber mill and ore mine in there and make sure that any hero from either castle can reach every other place and won't get stuck on the coast or something.

[Anonymous No.6283127]

>>6283124
Okay, you were right, I added more dirt tiles and it started as intended. Also there's no visualized button for digging? Only with D hotkey?

[Anonymous No.6283130]

>>6283127
I mean there is in Homm3, but I haven't played Homm2 seriously in a long enough time that I don't really remember.

[Anonymous No.6283135]

>>6283127
The dig button is under this flag menu

[Anonymous No.6283157]

>>6283135
Thanks.
>>6283130
You were right, my test map didnt have any obelisks, win condition was just a regular kill all/capture all towns - and I found the artifact by digging.

[Anonymous No.6283160]

>>6281252
pretty easy to just follow all the cleared paths and portals

>>6281303
>>6281307
view air + earth

[Anonymous No.6283163]

>>6283157
Looks like the tavern hints aren't so useless after all, if you want to try your luck in the future with some hero you're not using for anything else.

[Anonymous No.6283281]

>>6282816
>but I think it is possible to find the grail still with enough luck, time and guesswork even if there are no obelisks.
Yeah it is, I know that for sure. Well artifact, not grail.
I've done that twice.
Once on a really small map, and once using the tavern hint where the map had a smallish swamp area and the tavern said it was there.
This map has a small snow area so I restarted until I got a fitting hit, but now I'm wondering if this is actually the snow hint.

[Anonymous No.6283295]

I don't think I've ever had quite this level of artifact luck on a normal map before. Was missing the necklace for ages, then jumped in my chair when I nuked an enemy hero and got it just like that.

[Anonymous No.6283307]

>>6283295
Don't know what that hota item is, but other than that it looks like you have top tier items.
I think the best luck I've had was getting the +5 to alls word or the +6 to all helmet in week one, it was on thousand islands and for some reason you could land on an island behind the creature stack defending the artifact and grab it. Not sure if it was a random artifact or an "artifact 4" on the map.

[Anonymous No.6283314]

>>6283307
>Don't know what that hota item is
The metal chain ring? -1 to enemy morale. I had other rings but at this point it was a struggle to come up with anything else that'd be useful at all for the slot.

[Anonymous No.6283538]

>>6283281
Wait so every map has a grail/ultimate artifact even if theres no obelisks?

[Anonymous No.6283574]

>>6283538
yeah, the other time I did it on the evil campaign it was located in the swamp on the final mission, dug up like 10-20 tiles to get it so I had the Ultimate Crown and the Ultimate Shield for my main hero.

The pic I just posted where I got the crown was when I had just about won on one of the smallest maps, and I got it on my first dig.

[Anonymous No.6283613]

>>6283574
Isn't gauntlet the better choice for the final map instead of crown?

[Anonymous No.6283683]

>>6283613
Yes

[Anonymous No.6283814]

>>6279083
>>6279138
>>6279190
>Castle Alamos

[Anonymous No.6283963]

>>6283157
I decided to play my map again and the artifact was found by digging literally on the same tile, but it was golden goose(+10k gold every turn) instead of the crown +4 all attributes.

[Anonymous No.6283972]

Other SSSC run here, just turned myself into an attack helicopter and murdered everything
>FUCK Control Center

[Anonymous No.6283982]

>>6283972
SSSC runner who isn't you here: Is there an easy way through the Tomb of VARN / any cheese to be had?

[Anonymous No.6283991]

>>6283963
Golden goose has gotta be the best artifact that game ever had. I wish it was in 3.

[Anonymous No.6284027]

>>6283991
It's such an insane amount of gold in homm2, 10k a turn.
Yet, you can still not have enough gold for everything on large maps.
I was playing as Sorceress on Lost Continent once and got it, kept the goose on a random sorc on a boat in a bay, to make sure no surprise dimension door hero would pounce on it. At first I could start buying all the creatures, but fairly quickly I had to get frugal again and just settle for the more worthwhile creatures.

I don't really miss it in homm2, but more digging for artifacts would be nice.'
Maybe different sets of obelisks leading to different treasures. The standard artifacts are already so powerful in homm3 so I don't think taht adding ultimate shield and such is viable, but maybe you could have the Grail map for Red Obelisks, then a high tier artifact for Blue Obelisks like Helm of Heavenly Enlightenment, Sword of Judgement.

[Anonymous No.6284039]

>>6283991
>I wish it was in 3
But it is.

[Anonymous No.6284116]

>>6283982
It's not as bad as Darkmoor, Guardians hit hard but are little bitches to shrap metal.
There is a bunch of item breaking so be prepared.
As for Genies/Djinn/Efreet, hit them with what theyre weak to. Genies are immune to cold, Djinn imm. elec, Efreet fire, but ice bolt fucks efreet up.
Get the keys and make sure you hold on to the scrolls, it doesnt really start to get difficult until you get to that northwest corner with all the genies.

[Anonymous No.6284120]

>>6269003
Don't haste potions last for 6 hours?

[Anonymous No.6284124]

>>6284120
Making a potion for each character every 6 hours =/= casting one spell once.

[Anonymous No.6284128]

>>6284124
I think my light magic is at 25+ring and I get about 10 hours of haste

[Anonymous No.6284153]

>>6284128
I'll eventually have level 25 light magic, but I'm getting 7ish hours of Haste right now and that'll do me fine.

[Anonymous No.6284306]

How the fuck do I protect my archers?

[Anonymous No.6284323]

>>6284306
>1
Only engage those you can kill before they get to act
>2
mass slow

[Anonymous No.6284328]

>>6284306
You don't need to, you have black dragons. You're at the stage in the game where every other unit is just fodder

[Anonymous No.6284332]

>>6284323
Do you know that fliers can reach any hex and their speed only matter for their turn order?
>>6284328
I wanted to save some for the final map of the campaign. It seems better to buy out hydras and unicorns instead of shooters then.

[Anonymous No.6284338]

>>6284153
Just take a break before Control Center and save often

[Anonymous No.6284424]

>>6284332
>their speed only matter for their turn order?
Slow changes that

[Anonymous No.6284528]

>>6284332
>Do you know that fliers can reach any hex and their speed only matter for their turn order?
I know more than you.

[Anonymous No.6284573]

>>6284332
>Do you know that fliers can reach any hex and their speed only matter for their turn order?
Slowed fliers in HoMM2 still are significantly less mobile. It's a bit counterintuitive, but it works.

[Anonymous No.6284882]

>>6284039
Well shit. Never got it though. Plus its not the same.
Im not a fan of the combination artifacts desu.

[Anonymous No.6284886]

>>6284027
Yeah digging for artifacts is nice. We could use more of it. Hereos 4 kinda has that. I just dont like that in 4 you have to visit EVERY obelisk (face).
The combination of a grail and an ultimate artifact is pretty nice though.

[Anonymous No.6285120]

>>6284424
>>6284528
>>6284573
Okay, it really works. But mass slow is 4th level spell in this game, right?

[Anonymous No.6285124]

>>6284039
Is this hota stuff?

[Anonymous No.6285126]

>>6284882
>>6285124
I forgot to mention that it's a HotA-specific artifact.

[Anonymous No.6285245]

HOMM2 question: I love the game but the economy is kind of out of wack. For each town, which creatures should I be buying out each week / dwellings I should rush for and which should I leave to rot in town in order to have a chance at all on higher difficulties?

[Anonymous No.6285275]

>>6285245
Probably your t1 will be left if it's not a shooter. For warlock it's slow hydras, for wizard slow golems, zombies are just shit for necro.

[Anonymous No.6285278]

>>6285245
Generally you just want the fattest stack of ranged units, as they offer the most cost efficiency and help you clear out the map with minimal losses. So this means everything from hobgoblins to titans. Lategame though you want dragons and such obviously. Skip the slow units that reduce your movement, and only buy them if you're suddenly sieged.

Necromancer is a bit different, you want to build up giant death balls of skeletons.

It really depends on the map you're playing though, you want to be flexible and prepared to buy whatever units are necessary.

[Anonymous No.6285462]

>>6285245
>Wizard
If you can get to Titans then just them can be fine.
Only get Archmages if you can go through battles without losing them. They're great for a dream team of ranged units, when they reach numbers where they can kill the enemy creatures before they act. Like if you have a bunch of very fast fliers/shooters
Use Halflings until they start to die.
Use rocs, boars and golems until titans or until you conquer a better town.
>Knight
Champions.
Rangers until you start losing them.
Pikemen+Swordsmen.
Crusaders if you are fighting undead.
>Warlock
Dragons
>Necromancer
Bone Dragons, skeletons.
Liches aren't economical, don't build unless you happen to have the goose or have a large stack you can get through diplo maybe.
>Barbarian
Trolls get bullied by spells, and they're only fast so they don't have the potential that Archmages have, so I'd probably skip them unless I can get an especially fat stack of them. The rest are pretty economical.
>Sorc
Phoenix, Elf, Druid form 3/5 of a dream, but they're fragile and you can't slug it out with them, try to only engage with them when you can guarantee no losses.

[Anonymous No.6285510]

>>6285462
No Vampire Lords for Necro?

[Anonymous No.6285589]

Mysticism would be nice

[Anonymous No.6285597]

>>6285589
How many days do you have in the campaign already?

[Anonymous No.6285614]

>>6285597
218.
I was super slow on the first map, 51 days. Obsessively cleared out my starting area and then went for titans which is really not necessary.

[Anonymous No.6285627]

>>6285614
I beat the first map in 39 days and didn't even build titans, only 1 giant in the end when it was basically over.

[Anonymous No.6286362]

Update on the Might and Magic Merge Mod: Rodril is back, actual work can continue, keep your hopes up.

[Anonymous No.6286558]

>>6286362
When will you expand your efforts to merge I and X?

[Anonymous No.6286616]

>>6286558
Anon, I... you really think I can do shit with a computer? You are one nice Anon.

[Anonymous No.6287190]

In HOMM2's evil campaign, what difference does does it make going with mission 3 or 4 at the split? Also what exactly do you get from doing the optional mission 7(?)? Homm2's not great at explaining itself.

[Anonymous No.6287201]

>>6287190
>Split
Ogre Alliance vs Necromancers Guild
All ogres join you, or you get Brother Brax, a higher leveled necromancer hero.
Ogre Alliance is of course much much stronger than budget Eliza.
The optional mission is Dragon Alliance.

These alliances function like the dwarf alliance, so you probably now understand why the evil campaign is much easier.

[Anonymous No.6287214]

>>6287201
I've never beaten the good campaign so I dunno what the Dwarf alliance is. You mean to say if I see any stack of ogres / dragons on the map they would join me 100%?

[Anonymous No.6287236]

>>6287214
>You mean to say if I see any stack of ogres / dragons on the map they would join me 100%?
Yes

[Anonymous No.6287259]

time to end it
rushed the necromancers with eliza+ultimate crown+1 phoenix, then switched to titans for barb+warlock.
Still slow, and wanted the main heroes to run through the stat upgrades, and get Eliza to diplomance the good aligned stacks and the dragons.
I wanted to dig up the artifact, but apparently it was under the lava land and that's way too big of an area.

I think I might play this mission again soon and not rush the enemy, since after the intial push against necro they couldn't really do anything. Last I played this mission it was more interesting because the AIs could build proper armies to attack me, and I suffered heavy losses early on to the knight armies, until I had a proper flight/ranged army from sorc/wizard that could take the enemies out before they nuked me.

Now I just need to decide who should deserves the honor of killing Archibald.

[Anonymous No.6287281]

[Anonymous No.6287286]

>>6287259
Is that the campaign map? Looks neat. I never got far into the campaigns desu.

[Anonymous No.6287289]

>>6287259
>Luna goes from brown to brunette to undead Harry Potter tribute
Luna had a hard life

[Anonymous No.6287291]

>>6287289
it gets worse

[Anonymous No.6287321]

>>6287214
In the Archibald campaign crushing the dwarves not only gets all ogres joining you, but all dwarves instantly run from you. The Necromancer Guild option gives a level 5 hireling available in every mission.

The optional dragon mission makes all dragons join you, but it isn't as useful as it sounds since you will have stupidly powerful armies already. It gives you the ability to pick up some extras if you get lucky on the gauntlet mission though.

On the Roland campaign you have to save the Sorceress Guild anyway so you get the hireling regardless. The optional scenario to save the dwarves makes all dwarves join you.

Of note though is if you take the traitor option you lose all previous awards on either campaign.

[Anonymous No.6287337]

>>6287321
It seems in betrayal your days count is reset, so you will probably get higher score.

[Anonymous No.6287476]

>>6285510
yep, this alone invalidates the wall of text above

[Anonymous No.6287494]

How's the premade maps that ship with HotA? I'm especially looking for some scenario maps that aren't just the standard FFA type which just turn into whack-a-mole against AI after the first few weeks.
In other words, any maps that remain challenging through the whole duration without resorting to bullshit like one-way teleports to your towns for the AI?

[Anonymous No.6287894]

>>6287476
too fragile

[Anonymous No.6288374]

>>6285462
Oh wow, I just beat the 5th level of the evil campaign in 13 days with these tips and could have probably done it a day sooner.
I used to take about 260 days to beat the first mission, once upon a time.

[Anonymous No.6288586]

>>6287894
39 Vampire lords can take down 11 black dragons with enough strategy

[Anonymous No.6288616]

>>6288586
a couple of hydras can take down a dragon city

[Anonymous No.6288631]

>>6288616
Hydras are great it you have teleport.

[Anonymous No.6288648]

>>6288586
I'm sure 11 black dragons can take down 39 vampire lords with enough strategy as well

[Anonymous No.6289729]

>>6288616
How? They have a lot of hp, but hit not that hard.

[Anonymous No.6289953]

>>6289729
lot of factors in play, but dragons will friendly fire and hydra can attack all of them with no retaliation. Cast a steelskin and gg

[Anonymous No.6289961]

>>6289953
Ah, friendly fire makes sense.

[Anonymous No.6290028]

>>6287494
I enjoyed "Island of Dust" and "Broken Compass". "In Defense" is a bit more elaborate and challenge focused (defend yourself against a superior enemy) so it could be something for you. I have yet to play any of the XL+ maps though.

[Anonymous No.6290368]

Trying to get into the game but I hate how it turns into whack-a-mole with the AI on bigger maps after you clearly gain an advantage, any fixes for that except playing a smaller map?

[Anonymous No.6290410]

>>6290368
dimension door, more heroes that can fight, town portal(not gate, but sure gate helps a bit too)

[Anonymous No.6290463]

>>6290368
>>6290410
Which game? I partially solved it in heroes 3 by adding a pair of Shackles of War near my start castle for any map I wanted to play.

Honestly it's what I hate the most too.

[Anonymous No.6290548]

>>6290368
AI is cautious about approaching on high difficulty. So it takes movement boosting landmarks, spells, or castles to pick off some of the enemy heroes in the open if you have a higher powered army yourself. But the AI can behave poorly when facing multiple heroes of slightly less army strength or simply at castle juggling.

It does feel a bit like trying to plug a bunch of water leaks with your bare hands on the big maps. The AI will out boom you even when down castle count and income. You might notice on impossible that you'll only get one top tier monster from a creature dwelling but the computer will get 5. If you're not able to flag all the map resources, it seems to exacerbate the problem.

Breaking the game aka just winning on impossible to me generally happens about the time I can stack multiple tier 7s monsters on one or two heroes. If you can break through the AI's main heroes, then the game is just logistics. So maintaining superiority generally involves stealing AI castles on first days of the week, tricking it into pin cushioning itself against your castle walls and turrets, sniping wandering enemy heroes, canvasing all the map resources, letting the computer pay to place buildings in your castles, and making good market trades when you need. Keep in mind that the computer will probably find combination artifacts, the grail, and whatever else early. Just accept that you're playing the machine at the hardest difficulty and there will be some luck involved in the process of winning or losing.

[Anonymous No.6290576]

Homm2 Archibald campaign - mission 7 question:
Is there a speedrun strat to this? From the description and win condition it sounds like there's probably some sort of pro strat speedrun way to get the job done super fast, anyone mind explaining to me what it is if there is one please?

[Anonymous No.6290586]

what makes a killed enemy hero to appear in your tavern? Purely luck?

[Anonymous No.6290590]

>>6290576
Not really. I am pretty sure speedruns skip that scenario.

The actual dragon city is in the northwest and it's guarded by a bunch of dragons, then you have to fight more dragons inside to take the place. Your best play is to move west immediately with your main force and take the cities, and try to pick up the rest of the items around the map with your other characters. You can beat it in 15-17 days without too much trouble if you get map control early.

[Anonymous No.6290591]

>>6290576
Dragon Master (Evil Campaign 7)
-------------------------------
The Ogre Alliance is necessary for my strategy. Don't lose time worrying
about your two warlock enemies. They won't have time to become real
nuisances before you capture the Dragon castle. I won in 10 days. It should
be quite tough to do better.
1) Start with a barbarian castle. Their pathfinding skills will help you in
the western desert.
2) Hire 2 other barbarian heroes and make them give their troops to your
starting barbarian hero.
3) Do not lose time building up your castle. It's not required in this
scenario.
4) The 2 secondary barbarian heroes should collect ogre stacks that are a
little removed from the road. ASAP, they should transfer those ogres to the
principal hero.
5) Your primary barbarian hero will go west following the road.
6) Take any nearby ogre stacks and upgrade them to ogre lords when you pass
nearby the Hill Fort.
7) Do not deviate from the road very much until you reach the desert.
8) Attack the first red dragon stack in the desert...
9) Make sure your ogre lords are split in two equal stacks and that they
are in the 2nd and 3rd place on your roster (I had 2 stacks of about 43
ogre lords before the first dragon battle)
10) With correct positioning, the flying dragons will soon flame each other
while attacking you (the sandwich dragon strategy again :-)
11) Go north through the desert, destroy any dragon stacks blocking your
way.
12) Attack the Dragon castle !
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/932491-heroes-of-might-and-magic-ii-gold/faqs/2044

[Anonymous No.6290598]

>>6290591
Sounds great, thanks. Will try it tomorrow / later.

[Anonymous No.6290704]

>>6290586
In 3 its pure luck. UNLESS it involves retreating and not buying them out by the end of the week.
Then its by default into one of the enemy taverns, but I don't remember if they get to keep the army or not.

[Anonymous No.6290728]

>>6290704
Retreating heroes lose their armies. Surrendering heroes keep theirs.

[Anonymous No.6290742]

>>6290728
Yes, but that might not be true for the week rollover.
Another important piece of the puzzle are if the AI will be able to retreat without the economy to rehire their heroes.

[Anonymous No.6290981]

>>6290591
>>6290598
After half an hour of testing, I've found it's 100% possible to get a day 7 win if things go right for you and you reset for good starting skills and get a little luck. Maybe day 6 if the stars align just right.

For a day 7 win you need the starting hero to have Expert Pathfinding + Basic Logistics, dump the Orcs and Ogres in town so you just have goblins and move a little way down to path so you're out of the way.
Hire a Barbarian and dump any orcs, move over near the main guy. Hire a Wizard and dump the Halflings, split the boar stack you have and grab the Orcs from town, pass one boar to the hired Barb then have the secondary Barb pass the Goblins to your main guy and start headed NE for the Ogre stack by the ore mine.
Turn 2 the secondary Barb grabs the ogre stack, brings them as far back as he can and the Wizard finishes the job passing all roughly 40 Ogres to the main hero. Main hero grabs the next two ogre stacks and visits the Hill Fort.
Next turns are basically your main hero moving with ruthless efficiency and grabbing a few Goblins on the way. There are basically zero movement points spare.

A day 6 win would theoretically require Advanced Logistics or better along with the Expert Pathfinding, and the first fight that happens on day 3 being something easy like Mummies with it getting a level up for Expert Logistics. (Both my fights with my best randomized starting hero were Grand Elves, so I wasn't going to test if those fights would give enough experience for a level.)

Was actually pretty fun to test and optimize.

[Anonymous No.6291154]

>>6287494
Dead Man's Tales is great. It's Castle/Tower (navy) vs Cove (pirates), both playable and start with multiple towns. The best part about it is the exploration. You just keep running into cool shit.

[Anonymous No.6291172]

>>6290981
noice

[Anonymous No.6291276]

5-7 years ago I made a homm3 version of the homm2 map Revolution, decided to open it up in the homm3 succession war mod editor.

Since homm3 didn't have the orange cracked terrain of homm2, or the yellow sand terrain of homm2, I used the rough terrain in the lower right, and the beach terrain for the lower left.
But Homm3Succ Yellow Sand = Homm3 Rough, so that got flipped.

[Anonymous No.6291768]

>>6291276
>homm 2 soul
>homm 3 soulless

[Anonymous No.6291775]

[Anonymous No.6291821]

>>6291768
>OLD GOOD NEW BAD

[Anonymous No.6291832]

>>6291775
Good job, but can you dig it up on day 2?

[Anonymous No.6291840]

>>6291832
Yeah on a specific map in homm3.

[Anonymous No.6291942]

There was a good thread about succ wars yesterday on /v/ and there was interesting question about races of some heroes, for example, what is this guy? Just a tanned human?

[Anonymous No.6291950]

>>6291942
Does anyone else think Warlocks and Wizards were switched? Warlock portraits in HoMM2 look mostly pretty normal, have bright colors, there's even that Arie guy who looks like an excited 15 year old. Meanwhile Wizards are all these creepy mean looking monsters

[Anonymous No.6292005]

>>6291950
You have to remember that H2 was basically an expansion of H1 and in H1, the swap castle was essentially the wizards, and H2 only added other, supposedly good wizards on top of that, so Swamp probably wasn't intended to be specifically evil outright until the sequel. Why are the Wizards so ugly then? Fucking beats me.

[Anonymous No.6292096]

>>6291821
homm2 has more soul than homm1, but yeah, it is good rule of thumb

[Anonymous No.6292136]

>>6292096
ok boomer

[Anonymous No.6292158]

>>6291950

[Anonymous No.6292310]

>>6292158
What the fuck kind of race is Kastore supposed to be? Snow Elf?

[Anonymous No.6292312]

>>6292310
M&M3-5 elf.

[Anonymous No.6292349]

>>6292312
Yeah mm3-4 elves look like castore a lot.
Especially this guy:
https://mightandmagic.fandom.com/wiki/Seymour

[Anonymous No.6292620]

>>6292349
It always bothered me how Kastore get such a drastic skin change from MM3 to MM7.

[Anonymous No.6292621]

Kastore looks like a dick because he is one.

[Anonymous No.6292629]

>Get doomsday weapon maker
>Immediately shoots a goblin to test it out
Perfect

[Anonymous No.6292741]

Well I didn't expect them to have the black tower up in this warlock castle.

With Jojosh massive defense I think I'll just take black dragons with him, and leave the barbarian army to defend.
I was avoiding most fights with the purple necromancer and the red warlock because I didn't want them to bully me with Lightning Bolts, but dragons solve that.
My plan was to go get the thunder helmet which I spotted, and maybe steal the ice cloak from blue to deal with Sandros 10 spell power.

[Anonymous No.6292758]

>>6292741
Archibald didn't get along with Sandro? That's weird.
I'm yet to play his campaign.

[Anonymous No.6292771]

>>6292758
not a campaign map.
Seven Lakes.

[Anonymous No.6292773]

>>6292771
Ah, okay. Did you beat both original campaigns already? There are also 4 campaigns in prince of loyalty add-on.

[Anonymous No.6292820]

>>6292773
I've not played the evil campaign in years, probably thinking of one of the other anons playing the campaigns.

[Anonymous No.6292834]

>>6291276
You should finish it and send it to maps4heroes

[Anonymous No.6292851]

>>6292834
I considered it back when I had just made it, but after playing it I didn't think it really lived up to the homm2 versions difficulty.
Despite it being 1v7 compared to the homm2 version which is 1v5, and despite splitting the players town between inferno and necropolis.
Added an underground area with 3 fortress towns, and a lava area with 3 conflux towns.

I guess it doesn't need to be that difficult though so I should look into fixing anything that may be wrong with it and uploading it when I have more time.

[Anonymous No.6292903]

>>6292758
Sandro was jewing every other necromancer constantly

[Anonymous No.6293771]

>>6292741
The AI is really not good with handling dragons and titans.

[Anonymous No.6293797]

>>6292741
Killed Sandro a long time ago, but my inventory filled up with his junk.
Missed these items.
Not that my barbarians have used a lot of spells.

[Anonymous No.6293820]

Jojosh and Atlas were sanic fast this game.
Jojosh got 2 speed items in the swamp corner, while Atlas got 2 speed items in the desert corner

[Anonymous No.6294280]

>>6293771
It seems they buy units from the bottom up, not top down. Its honestly kinda dissapointing, I wish there was a patch. Although to be fair titans are way too expensive even when your a human player.
>>6293797
The artifact system in that game was a downside. Heroes 3 did good with it.
>>6292741
>>6293820
Fucking love that map.
>>6291276
I made a smaller version of Dominion for heroes 3 years ago. It was really good but I lost the file and have been lost myself ever since. I wish there was a full size conversion out there somewhere. Dominion was my favorite heroes map of all time hands down.

[Anonymous No.6294315]

>>6293771
>>6294280
http://heroesportal.net/library/index.php?version=h2&page=physic
I think his algorithm of buying depends on a power of certain unit compared to its cost.
Here's the chart of creatures power relatively to a peasant, maybe you will be able to read the article with google translate even.

[Anonymous No.6294580]

>>6294578
Okay, new thread.