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Anonymous Thu Jan 30 02:52:14 2020 No.6167796 [Reply] [Original]

>3D Sonic was a mistake
Why we can't just admit SA was the beginning of the end?
A mediocre platform with good graphic (for the time), the very first bad Sonic game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 02:54:28 2020 No.6167798 >>6167796 >Why we can't just admit SA was the beginning of the end? Because Sonic Adventure 2 and the Sonic Riders series are some of the best games ever made, let alone for Sonic. If you think otherwise, you are a casual.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 03:02:57 2020 No.6167812 >>6167798 >Sonic Adventure 2 Worst than SA1

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 03:07:58 2020 No.6167819 >>6167812 Nostalgiafag brainlet. Looks worse, sounds worse, designed worse, plays worse.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 03:59:40 2020 No.6167876

>>6167796
Whether e-celebs like it or not Adventure and Adventure 2 were received extremely positively on release, they weren't perfect but lots of people liked them and I don't know why that triggers zoomers into this kind of batshit logic. "Come on! Just admit it! COME ON!", there's nothing to admit. It won't be the first 'bad Sonic game' no matter how hard to retroactively try to make it so, hell it wasn't even the first bad Sonic game released in 98.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 04:10:10 2020 No.6167890 >>6167876 this

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 04:12:47 2020 No.6167894 File: 192 KB, 801x843, Sonic-R-cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6167876 >>6167890

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 04:25:30 2020 No.6167913 File: 1.98 MB, 500x225, 1569707904663.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6167798 >Sonic Adventure 2 and the Sonic Riders series are some of the best games ever made,

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 04:26:25 2020 No.6167915 >>6167796 Wow you have really opened my eyes, OP. I was just living in denial. I was having fake fun. One might even say artificial fun.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 04:50:55 2020 No.6167932 >>6167796 >the very first bad sonic game That was Sonic 1.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:02:57 2020 No.6167938 File: 39 KB, 250x346, Sonic_Blast_cover_art.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > the very first bad Sonic game. Stupid nigga casuals don't even play all the games from the era they're obbessed with

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 12:36:22 2020 No.6168363 >>6167876 Its just not a good game man i got my first dreamcast and played it as my first game a month ago and came into it with a very neutral stance, never watched a youtube faggots video on it or anything, its just a bad game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:06:07 2020 No.6168402 >>6167796 t.Nintendrone who never owned a Sega Dreamcast Sonic Adventure is the best Sonic game ever made. The worst & the first bad Sonic game would definitely be Sonic 3D Blast.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:11:01 2020 No.6168408 >>6167796 That's 8-bit 3d blast or labyrinth, you zoom zoom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:13:43 2020 No.6168415 >>6167876 I played SA2 on the Gamecube and thought it was a shit game long before YouTube was even a twinkle in your zoomer eye

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:24:29 2020 No.6168425 >>6168415 The Gamecube version is inferior to the Dreamcast version.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:33:32 2020 No.6168435

>>6168425
https://tcrf.net/Sonic_Adventure_DX:_Director%27s_Cut_(GameCube)/Changes_from_the_Dreamcast_Version#Gameplay_Differences

Literally nothing here is a big deal

In fact, it even had MORE content for me not to enjoy - and that really sucks because it was like $20 when I got it and usually the $20 games I got were usually good. (Maximo, Onimusha, etc)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:32:05 2020 No.6168527 >>6168425 Not even true, and anyone who says this exposes themselves as having had no friends growing up to play the multiplayer with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:32:59 2020 No.6168529 >>6168425 https://tcrf.net/Sonic_Adventure_2:_Battle/Changes_from_the_Dreamcast_Version Fucked up the link but still not impressed

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:33:07 2020 No.6168530 >>6168363 shit taste zoomer redundant, I know

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:49:57 2020 No.6168553 >>6168402 >muh Nintendo boogeyman Every time.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 16:00:26 2020 No.6168647

>>6168530
What year does zoomer begin anyway? I dont agree with the sentiment through that sonic just cant be in 3d or that it just never had that level of intricacy to begin with, i think theres alot of potential for there to be a good game here it just didnt happen, probably because of the state of sega at the time and the rush to get it out to market the game feels very shoddy and slipshod

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 16:31:42 2020 No.6168709 >>6168647 >What year does zoomer begin anyway? 1997 unarguably autumn 1996 imlo

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 16:31:44 2020 No.6168710 >>6167796 Chao Garden was genius.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 16:34:39 2020 No.6168716

I haven't played all the way through SA1 in many years, but the only thing that stood out in my mind as being particularly bad was Big the Cat's missions. I did boot the game up and played for a few minutes not too long ago, but I was surprised by how bad some of the animation looked.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 18:13:50 2020 No.6168864

>>6168363
Just because you don't like something doesn't make it bad though.

I don't like Guilty Gear much and I like Tekken, but GG is still a good game.

Additionally, you need to keep in mind that different games teach you differently and that you won't always mesh with how one game wants you to approach it. A good example is how SA2 is an arcade style score attack game first and a standard platformer second, but it never tells you this at all outside the ranking system. But once you learn to approach it via trial and error, it feels great to go back for high scores with all 6 characters.

A similar case can be made for SA1, except SA1 is more emphasized on physical route choice and optimization in level replays. Which is an emphasis antithetical to anything mario enforces in how it teaches you to approach platformers.

Again, not bad, but innately different.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 18:23:37 2020 No.6168879 >>6167938 I haven't played this game in over a decade but I remember that I absolutely loved it as a kid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 19:14:02 2020 No.6168962 >>6168710 Yeah, but in 2B.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 19:17:48 2020 No.6168969 >>6167796 Go back to fucking your 3/10 asian whore, Egoraptor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:12:34 2020 No.6169232 >>6168709 Im 95 so im not a zoomer you lose what do you i have now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:15:10 2020 No.6169243 >>6168864 I agree i think sonic has far more in common with star fox then mario

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:28:48 2020 No.6169295 >>6168969 She's not asian, just retarded and fetal alcohol syndrome.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 23:31:23 2020 No.6169521 SA is fun and I don't even like Sonic much. it's amusing to abuse the physics and the voice acting makes me laugh. not all games have to be masterpieces, it's okay to enjoy a freddy got fingered instead of an Ordet sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 01:29:35 2020 No.6169713 >>6169232 Not him, but I was born in 1982 and I fuck women around your age. Although late 90's kids are clueless about video game systems as old as Dreamcast.

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:38:20 2020 No.6170495
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>>6169713
Good for you im into the occult and have a succubus from goddess lilith one of most powerful entities in this universe what do you have to front against that besides lolololololol gtfo back to /x/ schizo?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:40:51 2020 No.6170496 >>6169713 Also what are you talking about dreamcast is a sixth gen console they could have gotten one in 2001

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 17:25:32 2020 No.6171062 >>6167796 NO!!!!! SHUP THE FUCK MORTY! SHUT THE FUCK UP. I HAVE A GAN MOURTE' I AVBE A GUEEEEEEEEN

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 17:30:09 2020 No.6171071 >>6167796 Because, believe it or not, many of us actually like the game and think it's objectively good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 18:03:28 2020 No.6171112 File: 481 KB, 370x218, masturbation party.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Live & Learn > Open Your Heart

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 00:22:32 2020 No.6171694 >>6167876 >Adventure and Adventure 2 were received extremely positively on release This means absolutely nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 00:25:36 2020 No.6171701 File: 32 KB, 500x308, d4e2fbdbc138f8417d5ba171a616ae04.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6168415 >disparages zoomers while talking about how they first experienced SA2 on the GameCube

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 00:27:27 2020 No.6171703 File: 157 KB, 798x802, 1542861136769.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6171112

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 00:38:12 2020 No.6171719 >>6167796 Sonic Colors was a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 00:40:57 2020 No.6171727 >>6167913 not him and haven't played SA or SA2 but I had fun with Sonic riders zero gravity when it was new

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 00:55:51 2020 No.6171748
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i just dont know how you can honestly say sa1 is an objectively good game. sure sonic playstyle is good but not all of sonic's levels are fun, then there's knuckles and gamma who have potential but are underdeveloped and then tails/amy/big who are all just plain shit and only seem to exist to pad out the game. the music is awesome but the cutscenes are just plain bad even in the original japanese version and the story has pretty much nothing going on. the plot isn't anywhere near complex enough to necessitate the whole 6 different perspectives thing, it easily could have all been told in sonic's story alone. the adventure stages are pretty much just to waste your time if you don't find them charming anymore. the graphics were good at the time but are showing their age. there's the chao system but it's underdeveloped to the point where it's basically unrecognizable from how it appeared in adventure 2. overall adventure can be fun when you're playing on sonic levels yeah but the rest of the game just doesn't hold up very well in my opinion. it's like a 4/10 at best if i want to be generous. to me the fact remains a solid 60% or more of the overall product just plain sucks

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 01:13:07 2020 No.6171764 >>6167798 great post, .05 cents has been put into your SegaNet account

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 02:26:40 2020 No.6171838 >>6171719 >one of the cool Sonic 3D is a mistake KEK

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 02:28:29 2020 No.6171841 >>6171719 >>6171838 Sonic Colors felt great at the time but in retrospect the fact that a good 3/5 of the game is in the weird 2.5D perspective turns me off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 02:35:06 2020 No.6171848 >>6167876 I hated em cause I thought riding stupid skateboards down hills through a city with real humans wasn't fucking sonic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 02:36:52 2020 No.6171852 I still enjoy Sonic Adventure 1, and nobody can take that away from me. Sonic Heroes blows though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 02:53:26 2020 No.6171873 File: 62 KB, 800x600, 1577411088575.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6171071 >objectively

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:13:10 2020 No.6173382 >>6167798 SA2 is fucking dog shit - it's not good. It's awful. SA1 is poor but at least it has some interesting speed tech.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:19:40 2020 No.6173397 >>6167876 Based. Retard e celeb worshippers have no place on this board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:24:30 2020 No.6173406 >>6168402 Sonic Adventure 1 was on the Gamecube. Hell, I think most SA fans played the series on the Gamecube.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 23:18:18 2020 No.6173664 >>6167876 >Game journalist reviews don't matter until I want them to Cope

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 23:28:41 2020 No.6173683 >>6167796 The very first bad Sonic game was released in 1991.

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