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6016024 No.6016024 [Reply] [Original]

Why the FUCK did the Amiger fail in the US? It was a better than anything else on the market.

>> No.6016042

Macintosh was objectively better for everything except video and gaming. Music, still graphics, desktop publishing, etc.

>> No.6016053

Commodore was mismanaged.

>> No.6016056

>>6016024
Poor marketing, and after VGA and Sound Blaster came out the Amiga was way behind on tech.

>> No.6016076

>>6016024
ameegur is for europoor cucks

>> No.6016086

>>6016042
This. Amigas were used for video production; it was common to see Video Toasters on the same rack as your precious meme pvm monitors. I also remember using Atari STs for music production. DOSboxes were only really useful for word processing BITD.

>> No.6016091

>>6016024
Because you're too young to remember when it was successful?

>> No.6016097

one word: europeans

>> No.6016098

>>6016091
It was never successful in the US retard.

>> No.6016413

>>6016024
>Amiger
Nice to see an Americunt actually be self aware of how silly their accent sounds.

>> No.6016497

>>6016413
I was poking fun at your accent but okay.

>> No.6016506

IBM clones were advertised everywhere (especially RadioShack, back when that mattered) and people wanted to use the machines they had at work.

>> No.6016672

>>6016098
There was a pretty long period between 1985 when Amiga was introduced and 1989 when the VESA standard and "Super VGA" started being implemented where the Amiga version of games was undeniably superior and gamers would have preferred to play on that platform but like the anon above me says PC was just too widely used and those clones were actually cheaper. AGA was nice but it was too little too late to save Amiga in 92. ATI really nailed the coffin shut in 95 with the Rage.

>> No.6016678 [DELETED] 

>>6016413
But Americans pronounce Amiga the right way, dumb eurocuck.

>> No.6016682

>>6016024
It was too weak to play Doom well.

>> No.6016690
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>>6016678
but that isn't how you say amoigah

>> No.6016692

>>6016024
>IBM Compats were much cheaper here than in Europe and better for serious work
>Macs already rooted themselves into their niche of visual GUI work until Windows took over
>The console market was back on its feet and if you wanted to play games you got a Nintendo

>> No.6016830

In the early days people thought it was the same as a c64 and ibms were really expensive and came in big metal boxes so that must mean they were better. Brand snobbery. Computer shops also didn't demonstrate their superiority because they could make more profit selling ibms. After 1990 you had hundreds on clone makers selling cheaper systems even out selling ibm by which time the majority of ibms should have had vga graphics. The amiga was also a few hundred $ which would have been a few weeks wage back then so its not like it could have sold to the same people buying the nes for $100. The c128 could have had an effect as people thought it was the next c64 and it was barely better so they could have thought the same of the amiga. In euro countries poor people could get a computer, in america the popular opinion was if you can't afford a $2000 computer then you can't have a computer at all. People just didn't know about the amiga. Very interesting times and how expensive products become more popular because of perception.

>> No.6016831

>>6016690
The Alpha and the Amoigah, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.

>> No.6017128

I spent the 80's and 90's glued to the TV it was not marketed right at all.

>> No.6017675

>>6016024
How many of these threads do we need?

By the time Atari ST/Amiga came out, PC was dominant. What you Dad worked on at work is what he eventually brought home.

IBM, in today's lexicon, open sourced the PC platform. That allowed everyone and their grandmother to make PCs. Microsoft realized that, to make money, you needed to create a platform and avoid "hit-based" products. They made an operating system and, from that success, simply started taking over various software industries.

Apple could only compete because there was a cult following behind it and, at one point, Microsoft allowed it to live in order to avoid looking bad during it's many monopoly investigations.

Everyone else faded from view and that was that.

>> No.6017760

>>6017675
>How many of these threads do we need?
>It's almost like this thread is bait!

>> No.6018396

because games for ibm/ms-dos were better than anything produced in the late 80s when the amiga lemon was dumped on the market
best games are german and polish from the mid 90s

>> No.6018470

>>6016098
Top kek kid. There were Amigas nearly everywhere anyone was going video. From basic stuff like titling in the early days and with stuff like the toaster in older models. They were pretty popular with musicians as well. During the time between the first model being released and 4th gen consoles/decent VGA games the Amiga had the best sound of graphics of anything out there. Youropoor millennials who aren't aware that anything existed before the A600 need to do their homework.

>> No.6018480

>>6016098
>It was never successful in the US retard.
>used extensively throughout hollywood and television studios
hello zoomer :)

>> No.6018481

>>6017675
>IBM, in today's lexicon, open sourced the PC platform.
They did nothing of the sort. What they did was use mostly off-the-shelf components to keep costs down, which made it easy for other companies to copy the design and reverse-engineer the BIOS. IBM tried to stop it but were unsuccessful.

>> No.6019167 [DELETED] 

>>6018480
>a jew company that """sells""" to it's jewish hollywood clients is popularity
um no kiddo. noone fell for the amiga trickery. it was obsolete at launch and it's retail price only increased while it was outclassed by every other computer system. it was literally used as a tool to exploit east germany and poland after their "liberation" and even they had sense enough to dump it for microshit at the consumer level.

>> No.6019174

>>6019167
Are you ok anon? Who hurt you to the point where you’d post racism outside of /b/ and /pol/?

>> No.6019186 [DELETED] 

>>6019174
"racism" is the way of the world little friend
amiga was jewish from top down. pcdos/msdos liberated operating systems from jewish tyranny quite actually. now here we are back to square one with macOS and chrome and win10 all with 50%+ jewish executives trying to create botnet surveillance again.

>> No.6019206

>>6019186
You have issues man, get some help

>> No.6019216

>>6019167
>>6019186
>JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS

this is your mind on /pol/

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>>6016024
>Just a couple of years before customers felt burned when the commercials constantly told them that a Commodore64 will change their day-to-day lives, when in reality it was only good for games
>Jack Tramiel burned every business partner and distributor he dealt with. Europe was run by different people and so that didn't effect things here.
>Shit marketing
>Commodore couldn't figure out what market this was aimed at
>Doom

>> No.6019415

>>6019216
It's hard to not mention them when they literally run the world, sweety.

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6020151

>>6019415
It's spelled sweaty faggot

>> No.6020183

You could even see the difference in what kind of games companies in US and Europe made at the time and what were their preferred platforms. American companies (Microprose, Sierra etc.) made stuff like flight sims, strategy games, RPG's, adventure games, cerebral games for a more mature taste, developed for PC and then ported to Amiga/ST afterwards. European devs made platformers and shooters for Amiga+ST that made use of the 2D graphics crunching power of the hardware which were more commonly ported to Japanese consoles than to PC.

>> No.6020408

>>6019216
>>6019206
>>6019174
my earlier comment since modified by janny tranny was that commodore international was highjacked by jew yorkers who tried dumping cheap shit on the market out of frustration because they couldn't compete with MS and IBM
jews maybe this or that but they will always be tacky and tasteless

>> No.6020968

>>6017675
Say, what about Japan and the MSX-DOS? Why didn't IBM bring the PC there?

>> No.6022228

>>6020968
They did later, with DOS-V ("vee" not 5) coming out in 1990.

It was fine for a cheap microcomputer to only have kana or romaji, but a serious, expensive computer like an IBM needed proper Kanji support which took a bit of finessing to implement (the characters had to be stored on the hard drive instead of ROM.)

>> No.6022267

>>6017675
Is this what George Costanza meant when he asked his father if he knew "what it takes to compete with Microsoft and IBM"? It doesn't make any sense, Microsoft developed DOS and Windows 95 and IBM developed the PC standard we know know, but perhaps they also sold computers in 1997?

>> No.6022280

I do recall they used Amigas to do special effects in Robocop.

>> No.6022309

>>6020968
The PC-98 was basically a PC with Japanese support, in a time where supporting Japanese required dedicated hardware.
By the time regular PCs had the ability to render Japanese without anything extra (namely the introduction of VGA), NEC had a near monopoly on the computer market and IBM was losing control of the PC. And while the PC-98 was similar to the PC, it was just different enough to be incompatible, which meant having to re-buy all your software if you switched.
It was actually Windows 95 that broke NEC's hold on the Japanese market; it had a compatibility layer so programs made for the PC would work on the PC-98 and vice versa (so long as they were Win32 programs), which meant that once you upgraded all your software for 95, you could transparently replace your hardware with (cheaper and more powerful) PCs.

>> No.6022634

>>6022309
And ever since Windows 95, the Japanese have been super salty about making computer games and all moved to consoles.

>> No.6023056

>>6022634
And ever since World War 2, the japanese have been super salty

>> No.6023068

Name a single game on amiger that isnt trash

>> No.6023483

>>6022634
It has more to do with Japanese PCs crazy jacked-up prices that makes getting a proper gaming rig an anus-clenching investment, so people buy shitty nettops and white box office machines which can't do much more than VNs.