Pet baby caco needs to happen

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Pet baby caco needs to happen Anonymous Sat Nov 9 22:44:04 2019 No.6002405 [Reply] [Original]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5996946

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0 [Embed]

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR

Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
https://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

Anonymous Sat Nov 9 22:45:10 2019 No.6002407

=== ONGOING ===

/vr/ Heretic Mapping Project
-Currently looking for mappers, testers, and anyone else who can help.
-Project Discord server: https://discord.gg/BBPnHM8

=== NEWS ===

[11-6] DBP17 RC2 released, an Aliens-themed mapset
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/110070-dbp17-alone/

[11-4] MORTIS, a gameplay mod
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=66279

[11-4] BlooM, a Doom/Blood crossover
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=66261

[11-4] GMOTA 1.3 scheduled for the 15th this month
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIACyDExUj8&feature=youtu.be [Embed]

[11-2] Kinsie releases a WIP of 'Deathmatch Simulator'
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=66264&sid=3421fd12811cbd9c13bc2ff851980cae

[10-31] Death Wish for Blood updated to 1.6.7
https://www.moddb.com/mods/death-wish-for-blood

[10-31] Quake Halloween Jam 2 out now
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61786

[10-31] Doom 4 Vanilla v2.3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH4bU3wWAXI [Embed]

[10-29] Guncaster Vindicated updated to 3.2.0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eD8gPMaGc7E [Embed]

[10-29] Guncaster updates to 3.5.7
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=37066&sid=69353dbf78756b18deee151bc797cd60

[10-28] New Blood addon 'Fleshed Out'
https://www.moddb.com/mods/blood-fleshed-out/downloads/fleshed-out-1-0

[10-25] jcr shamelessly self-promotes his Q1 map curation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqp_DyDgxjw [Embed]

[10-22] Doom Tournament and Doomreal 1.0 now available
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60759
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65969

[10-21] GZDoom updates to 4.2.3
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=66171&p=1122190#p1122190

[10-21] Zandronum updated to 3.0.1
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9775

[10-21] Colorful Hell's 'Brown beta 2' released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1122162#p1122162

=== PREVIOUS ===

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 22:55:36 2019 No.6002418 File: 9 KB, 491x316, 57DCD170-764E-4284-A8B3-33E4F79C9218.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 22:57:43 2019 No.6002421 File: 7 KB, 106x118, 1536251153439.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] CRUDUX CRUO

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 22:59:23 2019 No.6002423 File: 136 KB, 900x1200, IMG_20191109_232227.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 23:00:25 2019 No.6002425 @fabino is our guy

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 23:01:01 2019 No.6002426 File: 215 KB, 871x960, 1566353245980.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there a way to do contact damage in Decorate that doesn't involve constantly shooting out hitscans/proximity checks?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 23:04:24 2019 No.6002430 >>6002426 As in, something that damages in contact? Give it the flag "skullfly".

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 23:04:52 2019 No.6002431 File: 2.20 MB, 640x360, blue.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6002405

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 23:05:46 2019 No.6002435 >>6002418 How slippery is that gate?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 23:06:02 2019 No.6002436 File: 135 KB, 454x555, Satyr_Texture_Gargoyle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 23:12:36 2019 No.6002443 >>6002430 Yeah, this is exactly what I was looking for, thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 23:51:05 2019 No.6002487 >>6002405 >subject not in all caps c'mon anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 23:54:43 2019 No.6002493 File: 112 KB, 972x1200, 1570984931819.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 00:10:31 2019 No.6002528 >>6002493 Funny image. I like Doom 3 though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 00:28:00 2019 No.6002562 but why is it called doom

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 00:31:09 2019 No.6002569 >>6002562 but why can't I ever get free pizza

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 00:32:33 2019 No.6002571 File: 7 KB, 184x174, 1562066614636.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6002487 forgive me my sins anon. haven't had my coffee yet while starting the new thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 00:34:02 2019 No.6002574 >tfw no alien trilogy and power slave wads why live?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 00:39:09 2019 No.6002582 File: 115 KB, 583x350, 1565948144036.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6002571 You're forgiven.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 00:46:04 2019 No.6002591 >>6002571 >mrworghh I love mancubi

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 01:54:37 2019 No.6002646 >>6002423 >>6002425 excellent artist, love his work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 02:52:41 2019 No.6002706 File: 470 KB, 585x463, cultist chaingunner.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A weapon to surpass metal gear

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 04:27:09 2019 No.6002813
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Redone hitscan-based projectiles coming along nicely. The beam is actually a projectile that's forced to exhaust all it's movement in a single gametick, while spawning trails at the same time. Can use this for the grenade launcher, where a toggle can draw up the exact path your grenade will take upon firing. May or may not draw to the screen in 2D instead of spawning model trails.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 04:32:36 2019 No.6002818 >>6002813 That's really cool! I wonder what would be faster - draw to screen, or draw to-world. Also can this work in GZDoom VR? If so, this could be amazing aiming assistance in VR https://github.com/Fishbiter/gz3doom/releases

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 04:39:07 2019 No.6002825 God damn imagine if Croteam's doom 4 pitch wasn't thrown out

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 04:40:42 2019 No.6002827

>>6002818
I'm not sure which is faster, I'll have to find out. "Drawing to the world" involves spawning a lot of actors which is expensive and also requires inducing a deliberate desynch so other players can't see it, but drawing to the screen involves more math. Thankfully, keksdose's "libeye" library does screen projection quite efficently.

For VR, I think you'd have to go with the actor approach since the only way to draw to the hud in 3D does not allow offsetting or angling.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 04:52:23 2019 No.6002838 >>6002825 I like serious sam but croteam are hacks wish next encounter was on PC, it looks dope

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 05:13:46 2019 No.6002868 What's the default difficulty in blood, lightly broiled? Also I have motion sickness, is there a way to change something in options to negate it? I'm using bloodgdx.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 05:18:00 2019 No.6002876 >>6002868 yes I dunno, FOV, view bobbing, view swaying

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 05:18:24 2019 No.6002879 >>6002868 For the motion sickness, I think the best you can do is move the monitor away from you a bit more than usual (or play windowed). Normally I'd suggest turning up the fov a little bit, but I don't think that's possible.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 05:19:29 2019 No.6002881 >>6002879 nblood and bloodGDX have FOV options DOS you're fucked

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 05:28:20 2019 No.6002885 >>6002876 >view bobbing, view swaying Did Duke have it as well? I don't remember having problems playing it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 06:09:22 2019 No.6002934 >>6002431 So, what is that wad?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 06:10:09 2019 No.6002937 >>6002934 Looks like ancient aliens

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 06:15:52 2019 No.6002943 >>6002825 SS is disbalanced, grindy shit, boring on "hard" and annoying on "serious" difficulty

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 06:16:52 2019 No.6002945 >>6002934 Old Otherworlders Aged Ayys

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 06:17:15 2019 No.6002946 >>6002818 GZdoom VR is horribly outdated. It's a shame, because it works well, but very few current mods will run on it now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 06:24:10 2019 No.6002951 >>6002946 Fishbiter updated it quite a lot and it uses newer GZDoom version as well. Not totally up to date, but it does have ZScript and most mods work fine. Too bad the last update was in May.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 06:33:37 2019 No.6002969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1snCRIl16ks This fucking sucks

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 06:51:01 2019 No.6002993

>>6002825
Why would you want that? Serious Sam has honestly the worst level design out of any "arena lockdown" FPS, and often has its fights drawn out for way too long.
I don't like that Doom 2016 relied too much on arena lockdowns on the second half, but I still enjoyed them more than anything I've experienced in Serious Sam.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 06:54:04 2019 No.6002997 >>6002993 serious sam is skub but it's my kind of skub d44m is skub as well, rearange just the few of the elements and remove a few and you might be onto something with it

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 07:00:45 2019 No.6003003 >>6002934 Map in development called Near Death Experiences.

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 07:45:24 2019 No.6003038

>>6002993
The levels which you actually move through and explore are nice, but damn do those late game arenas just go on and on. Doesn't help that most of them are single enemy type groups in a locked down square. Like a slaughter map that doesn't end.
At least it isn't Painkiller, square arenas full of melee dudes you massively out speed and they even have wind up on attacks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 08:08:21 2019 No.6003054 File: 1.50 MB, 900x1200, IMG_20191107_093813.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 09:30:32 2019 No.6003118 Am I the only one who finds the enemy design of Shadow Warrior to be boring as hell?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 09:35:33 2019 No.6003128 Is there any way to have a player start on a descending platform in Boom format?

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 09:39:52 2019 No.6003141

>>6002825
You know how BFE starts out in an urban area for the first few levels because Croteam happened to be working on a shooter with a realistic setting before it got scrapped by the publisher? It might have had something to do with Doom 4's original "Call of Doom" version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 10:33:27 2019 No.6003243 File: 730 KB, 1920x1080, ad20190825165807-00.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] They are trying to make epsilon build compatible with Arcane Dimensions

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 10:33:44 2019 No.6003247 >>6002405 Is he slipping a couple cheeky fingers up cacodemon's back holes?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 11:14:53 2019 No.6003291 File: 2.48 MB, 640x360, 945842255.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is the wad

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 11:18:34 2019 No.6003295 >>6003291 Huh?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 11:29:09 2019 No.6003326 >>6003295 It was posted on pol and it looks edgy as fuck some school shooter kinda thing Just wanna know the name of the wad in question

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 11:40:41 2019 No.6003349 File: 771 KB, 320x240, Brianaction.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone know what wad this gif on ed is from

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 11:51:07 2019 No.6003360 >>6003291 I also want this

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 12:03:03 2019 No.6003375 Arcane Dimensions is beautiful, it should be the standard for quake mods.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 12:11:29 2019 No.6003381 File: 74 KB, 1165x542, how2voodoo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6003128 I don't know how much of this you already know but I couldn't find any straightforward tutorials regardless so here you go

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 12:14:52 2019 No.6003385 >>6003349 I think that .gif sufficed. I doubt there's much more to the game than that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 12:15:24 2019 No.6003387 >>6003295 HUH

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 12:21:26 2019 No.6003404 >>6003385 Deep down I know you're right but I saw that gif years ago and I've never been able to fully forget it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 12:35:17 2019 No.6003420 >>6002405 A Doom WAD where most, if not all, of the weapons are food and beverage-related items would be neat. The enemies are now hobos, obese binge eaters and angry chefs of different ranks from Italy and France.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 12:36:20 2019 No.6003424 >>6002405 Why does DromED have this gingerbread cookie clown in it?

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 12:42:50 2019 No.6003439

Bloom is p good
>Map design, music, and atmosphere are great
>Cool enemy concept and designs
>The Chaingun
>GZDoom maps are fun (to me). Shame they’re few and far between. Even more so for co-op.
But also p bad
>Foliage and wires can cover up enemies outside the walls
>No Fullscreen HUD
>Status bar portrait covers up Doomguy’s weapons
>Doomguy could’ve had his own hud with grenade counter
>Dynamite physics are kinda bad
>Caleb as a whole feels awkward to play as
>First mapset that made me play on Hurt me Plenty
>I don’t have friends who play doom mods to co-op with nor do I know how to make a server for them to play on :(

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 13:07:34 2019 No.6003475 File: 325 KB, 715x576, 1571364704187.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6002423 Timbler is the best.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 13:44:52 2019 No.6003552 File: 1.20 MB, 440x404, 8d4.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 13:55:16 2019 No.6003579 >>6003291 It looks shitty.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 14:05:10 2019 No.6003602 >>6003439 You could always get The Sentinel's Playground to host a server for you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 14:07:35 2019 No.6003608 >>6003349 Probably some throwaway .wad someone on YTMND made like, 14 years ago, out of mostly existing assets, just to make that .gif What you see there is likely all there ever was to that .wad

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 14:12:51 2019 No.6003617 >>6003038 fuck you buddy painkiller's awesome

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 14:29:31 2019 No.6003640 >>6002405 Is Vulkan good?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 14:36:09 2019 No.6003658 >>6003640 No. You'd be a trekkie.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 14:41:22 2019 No.6003665 What's the best ways to deal with a bunch of Cultists in open spaces? It feels like I'm better off sitting back, and kiting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 14:43:41 2019 No.6003670 File: 126 KB, 1575x885, captain-james-t-kirk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6003658 >implying TOS isn't based

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 14:51:01 2019 No.6003679 >>6002431 >it's another "pretty colors with revenants everywhere and no room to move" wad yawwwwwwn

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 14:52:01 2019 No.6003682 Plutonia 2 is better than Plutonia. TNT2 is better than TNT. Fight me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 15:14:59 2019 No.6003725 >>6003682 No

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 15:29:54 2019 No.6003749 God damn Blood has some satisfying gunplay.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 15:58:16 2019 No.6003803 Mapping is fun . . . I wished I knew this years ago . . .

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 15:59:34 2019 No.6003807 File: 640 KB, 1280x925, e3eb33b9cebe5da97785e6ca40d7d633.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6003552

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 16:03:15 2019 No.6003816 >>6002423 >>6003475 is this becoming a legit meme

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 16:24:44 2019 No.6003854 >>6002493 >>6002497 These remind me of that pic of Jack Nicholson being asked to sign a photo of TDK Joker

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 16:26:55 2019 No.6003858 >>6003118 No. Its gameplay is fun but the enemy's just don't stand out to me as much. I prefer Duke over the other build games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 16:40:35 2019 No.6003880 >>6003243 ranger looks a bit feminine

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 16:42:44 2019 No.6003884 >>6003880 >tfw no ranger gf

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 16:44:47 2019 No.6003886 File: 913 KB, 2448x3264, IMG_20191109_232217.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6003816 Maybe

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 16:59:05 2019 No.6003897
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>play dusk and ion fury
>very disappointed, I found dusk actually pretty bad and ion fury petters out quick
>grudgingly finish them and start amid evil to get through my backlog
>mfw it's fucking awesome
I love this game

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 16:59:17 2019 No.6003898 >>6003880 Quit the söy

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 17:02:04 2019 No.6003903 >>6003682 tnt revilution?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 17:04:08 2019 No.6003905 >>6003897 I had almost the exact opposite reaction. I played through Amid Evil, found it alright but not amazing, then played through Dusk and loved the hell out of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 17:09:50 2019 No.6003920 >>6003897 Sorry about your taste

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 17:17:02 2019 No.6003932

got my girlfriend into doom using GZDoom. But of course we want to play coop. im a fucking idiot when it comes to this shit. How would i be able to get a coop game going between a mac and pc? do we need a new sourceport? sorry to bother you guys with a question thats been asked probably 1000 times.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 17:18:28 2019 No.6003939 anyone got the lastest ion fury gog release?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 17:22:47 2019 No.6003946 >>6003932 You don't need a new port, but GZDoom's netplay can be fickle, to say the least. https://zdoom.org/wiki/multiplayer

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 17:25:27 2019 No.6003949 >>6003932 Zandronum exists specifically for playing multiplayer Doom. Just keep in mind that it won't be compatible with some mods and that some mods have Zandronum-specific versions.

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 17:28:04 2019 No.6003952

>>6003946
yeah we tried this, i got the bat files running on my end, but macs are weird and ig it didnt work. maybe we did something wrong? but i doubt it.
>>6003949
how would i set up Zandronum for multi? Does it come with multiplayer connections and stuff like that?

i honestly have never even set up a server. im so fucking confused.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 17:46:28 2019 No.6003971 >>6003903 Yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 17:55:24 2019 No.6003985 >>6003946 >>6003932 if it's over LAN, gzdoom probably works just fine. >>6003952 you know how to find your local IP address, right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 17:59:24 2019 No.6003992 >>6003985 honestly i dont even know how to set up a LAN game and yeah CMD ipconfig IPv4 right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:00:43 2019 No.6003995 >>6003992 Yes. When you type the host command in, do you get a message telling you to wait for the other player?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:01:21 2019 No.6003996 File: 294 KB, 498x401, 1551993641513.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6003291 ALL THE OTHER KIDS WITH THEIR PUMPED UP KICKS

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:02:47 2019 No.6004001 >>6003679 yes the entire wad is literally just that webm. you've cracked the code.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:02:52 2019 No.6004002 >>6003952 zandronum comes with doomseeker these days, doesn't it? just create a game through it, hit "host server" when you've got the settings set up as you want, and it should automatically appear for everyone else on your LAN if they open doomseeker

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:05:09 2019 No.6004006 >>6003682 >the sky is blue, fight me This is how you sound.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:10:02 2019 No.6004014 Has anyone ever thought of making an id tech mod inspired by Dragon's Crown, preferably for either Heretic or Hexen? Imagine the Amazon from DC and Baratus holding hands

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:10:45 2019 No.6004015 >>6004014 Baratus does look like the homo type.

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:20:41 2019 No.6004038
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Also, i saw these icons from Mobygames and apparently, they're official
Has Raven software released any official art of Hexen?
Like, is there any concept art of the first game?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:22:49 2019 No.6004042 >>6004038 Daedolon looking like a stone cold master wizard there.

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:22:59 2019 No.6004043

>>6003995
zdoom -host 2 -warp 01 -skill 4
this is the host command right? but yeah when i open up GZDoom i get told to wait for the other player. and then i gave my gf zdoom -join 192.168.0.1 (with my IP of course) and doom just opens for her, no multiplayer though and my game just doesnt open.
>>6004002
alright thanks anon. how do i get someone on my LAN though?

thank you guys for your help so far! this means a ton to me and my gf

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:23:12 2019 No.6004047 Playing BlooM right now, and it’s amazing. Doe it really work for Ultimate Doom, Doom 2, Final Doom, and Sigil?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:24:30 2019 No.6004052 >>6004043 >zdoom uh that should be zdoom. make sure you both select the same iwads, too. maybe try appending "-iwad doom.wad" to both commands.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:24:32 2019 No.6004053 File: 795 KB, 1000x781, 1445756181733.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6004038 Is this official art or fanart?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:28:16 2019 No.6004057 >>6004052 oh shit yeah i just copied and pasted it, we both made it into gzdoom, sorry about the confusion! and thank you, ill try that when shes up!

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:32:19 2019 No.6004067 File: 182 KB, 1302x803, HPRsTEW[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I need MOAR

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:33:16 2019 No.6004069
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>>6004053
So, is there no such thing as official artwork of Hexen?
Also, has anyone ever managed to bring the otherrwise crappy console ports of Hexen to pc?
>>6004015
Are you implying being into muscular women makes you a homo?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:35:00 2019 No.6004075 >>6004006 I never hear people talk enough about Plut2 or TNT2. Everyone always talks about Plutonia and TNT

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:35:34 2019 No.6004078

>>6004043
>alright thanks anon. how do i get someone on my LAN though?
if you're using the same router for your internet, you're on the same LAN - that's what the "local" in LAN means
if you're not, then consider looking into TSPG (just google "zandronum tspg") - it's a free zandronum server host anyone can use

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 18:55:31 2019 No.6004114
File: 2.39 MB, 1280x720, less painful strife dialogs.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

More progress on the ZSDF editor. Interface is done, CRUD (create, read, update, delete; for the non-programmers) is pretty much also done. Next up, writing the exporter. Then the importer. Finally, I'll have to optimize the everliving fuck out of this, because some of the stuff I did half-assedly just to get the damn thing to work. I got a few ideas on how to do that. So far, in my tests, 100 conversations (14682 lines) load in approx. 25 seconds. 200 conversations load in 1 minute. In reality they load in 3 seconds, but it takes some time to populate the tree view. That part I'm not sure how to optimize. Yet. Aside from the loading, the rest is pretty fast. Also WinForms is the devil's creation. Fuck that, I'm using WPF next time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 19:02:15 2019 No.6004126 >>6004069 Depends on how muscular.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 19:03:16 2019 No.6004128 >>6004114 I'm out of the loop, what is this? Is it just for strife or what?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 19:04:51 2019 No.6004131 >>6003897 I love all three, but Amid Evil is my favorite so far, looking forward to Wrath.

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 19:09:49 2019 No.6004138

>>6004128
It's for (G)ZDoom and uses the ZDoom Strife Dialog Format. Writing the DIALOGUE lumps by hand is a complete fucking pain and becomes a headache once you start having more than 5 pages in a coversation. tl;dr it helps with organizing Strife dialogues for (G)ZDoom.

Anonymous Sun Nov 10 19:10:13 2019 No.6004139

>>6004128
Not him but a different anon. ZSDF stands for ZDoom Strife Dialog Format and allows for conversation text like in Strife. Before hand you would have to use notepad or some other program like that to create dialog. What anon here is doing is creating a program that makes it easier to create dialog in ZDoom.
If you want an example of a wad that makes use of ZSDF then look at Community is Falling 3.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 19:12:22 2019 No.6004142 >>6004138 >>6004139 Alright, yeah, now I get it. I knew it was doing DIALOGUE stuff from the webm but couldn't remember for the life of me what ZSDF meant. Thought it might be ZScript Dsomething Fsomething.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 19:21:39 2019 No.6004154 >>6004001 Yeah, im sure the rest is totally different. That webm alone is indicative enough that its not for me. So sick of these tryhard wads that try to wow everyone with craaazy visuals and alll have the same shit sadistic gameplay.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 19:22:53 2019 No.6004160 >>6004038 There's a 3d cutscene in the PS1 port.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 20:00:04 2019 No.6004215 File: 264 KB, 3040x1440, 73067642_2502868789750776_1085609540193353728_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lads doom retro plays incredibly well on delta touch for android, highly rec

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 20:51:28 2019 No.6004308 Strife is fuckign weird I picked up a random item at the begining and find out it's a treasonous act and can't progress anymore 45 minutes later. All my progress is fucked. Weird game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 21:05:00 2019 No.6004349 File: 19 KB, 280x280, quack.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] piddling around in vanilla doom is about all the pc gaming I currently do. how should I go about playing quake III arena in linux? should I just go with openarena?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 21:13:54 2019 No.6004363 >>6004308 That's the beginner's trap. It does that this one time, and you're fucked if you fall for it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 21:25:19 2019 No.6004390 >>6004215 Too many quircks in Doom retro make it unappealing to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 21:34:28 2019 No.6004398 File: 32 KB, 461x373, 12148756.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ashes 2063 is fun as fuck. When will it be finished?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 21:39:37 2019 No.6004406 >>6004308 >>6004363 He is right about that but if you kill him before the you get the mission you get his secret stash of items

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 22:10:35 2019 No.6004458 >>6003897 the 1st correct opinion I've heard ITT since 2017

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 22:11:37 2019 No.6004462 >>6004349 in order to enjoy your linux gayming experience you gotta use that wine bro

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 22:12:47 2019 No.6004464 >>6004349 ioquake3

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 22:13:56 2019 No.6004467 >>6004464 cnq3

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 22:21:02 2019 No.6004473 >>6004215 Doom Retro has no purpose It's not accurate as Chocolate or even Crispy It's not high performance as PRBoom It's not mod-friendly. What is it for?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 22:30:12 2019 No.6004479 File: 108 KB, 960x960, doom_thread.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what WAD lets me play as an 18.8m-tall robot?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 22:33:32 2019 No.6004484 >>6004462 don't wanna >>6004464 thanks, I'll give this a go

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 23:06:30 2019 No.6004523 >>6004075 TNT2 isnt even out yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 23:07:43 2019 No.6004524 >>6003682 >Plutonia 2 is better than Plutonia. I LOVE Gusta's work in PL2. But Plutonia is more consistently good, IMO.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 23:11:41 2019 No.6004526 Just finished Duke3D for the first time and it wasn't that good. The second episode was garbage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 23:38:45 2019 No.6004551 >>6003658 >No. >You'd be a trekkie. So? >>6003670 >implying TOS is the only good trek It's pretty great though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 10 23:40:48 2019 No.6004554 >>6003291 Nice shotgun animation btw

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 00:28:44 2019 No.6004640 >>6004523 Revilution is pretty much the real TNT2. https://www.doomworld.com/files/file/18810-tnt-revilution/

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 00:28:47 2019 No.6004641 >>6004479 the one you make yourself DO IT FAGGOT

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 00:43:30 2019 No.6004670 >>6002813 holy shit, What was the name of this mod? I need it asap.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 01:11:30 2019 No.6004705

What's the point of the Planet and Simulation levels supposed to be in Icarus, story-wise?
Like I get why they're there for the sake of variety but how is it helping you take over the Icarus by randomly dropping down to the planet or going into a computer

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 01:19:10 2019 No.6004713 Finally beaten E4M4 of UDTWID. What a ballbuster!

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 02:14:17 2019 No.6004758 >>6002407 Death Wish for Blood is now up to version 1.6.8 as of the weekend.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 04:25:31 2019 No.6004872 >>6004479 shogo MAD :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 04:30:14 2019 No.6004875 Does anyone want to play some deathmatch? I have a server up on doomseeker/zandronum called "4chan"

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 04:36:15 2019 No.6004886 >>6004875 I wanna co-op sunlust on UV pure-ish, smooth/beaut doom maybe

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 04:38:05 2019 No.6004890 >>6004886 I'm pretty bad at doom desu, but I can try. give me a sec to set it up

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 04:44:16 2019 No.6004893 >>6004886 >>6004890 alright, it should be up and called "Sunlust Coop"

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 04:47:49 2019 No.6004896 >>6004893 fug, got nothing better to do anyway

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 04:53:48 2019 No.6004901 >>6004526 This post is really pissing me off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 04:55:11 2019 No.6004903 >>6004705 I'm not sure even Team TNT had a good answer for that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 05:00:04 2019 No.6004907 File: 254 KB, 432x360, f.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 05:02:40 2019 No.6004910 >>6004670 DoomShock.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 05:39:02 2019 No.6004943 >>6004907 What's the difference?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 06:00:04 2019 No.6004959 File: 12 KB, 349x300, quake-spawn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wet slapping noises

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 06:14:20 2019 No.6004975

I've just gotten into creating doom levels.

Is Zdoom (hexen) the way to go? From what I've seen on YouTube that seems most recommended.
What are some really good doom wads with just default doom/doom 2 monsters and weapons that I can down load for inspiration?
Are there any guides to creating non euclidean levels in doom?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 06:21:07 2019 No.6004980 >>6004886 >>6004890 >>6004893 was fun you nincompoops, I wasn't entirely awake and now it's my bed time

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 06:21:52 2019 No.6004981 >>6004398 If you haven't already, play the fan made expansion, it's pretty good, and if you like hideous destructor try playing the standalone maps with that, since they go very well together.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 06:23:30 2019 No.6004982 also daily reminder sunlust is an evil, evil wad on UV

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 06:26:38 2019 No.6004984 >>6004975 If you wanna do advanced maps, ZDoom UDMF would be best.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 06:28:25 2019 No.6004985 >>6004975 If you're going to go with a mode that supports scripting and shit, you might as well just use UDMF. Remember, just because you have a fuckton of options doesn't mean you have to use every single one of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 06:32:25 2019 No.6004987 >>6004875 >>6004886 >>6004890 >>6004893 >>6004896 >>6004980 everyone left and I'm going to bed, but I'm going to leave the server up if anyone wants to still play it

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 06:32:36 2019 No.6004989 >>6004959 thank you Romero

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 06:37:29 2019 No.6004992 >>6004985 >>6004984 I definitely don't plan on going overboard and shoving everything into a map. I've just always been enamoured by non Euclidean level design so would love to make maps than are basically vanilla doom with non Euclidean elements.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 06:42:44 2019 No.6005000 >>6004992 Take a look at The Quirky Domain by FishyClockwork. Non-Euclidean geometry is the very essence of his map. You can reverse-engineer it to see how he uses portals to achieve that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 06:49:02 2019 No.6005004 >>6005000 thanks, I didn't think of just reverse engineering techniques. Any other examples you can suggest would be great.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 07:08:44 2019 No.6005017 Is there are a mod that makes all the characters look cute like the cacodemon on the OP?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 07:12:10 2019 No.6005019 File: 34 KB, 338x325, 1547319019420.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6004526 Fuck you

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 07:15:31 2019 No.6005023 >>6004526 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp3rwQ8fvhg

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 07:26:27 2019 No.6005037 >>6005023 In the developers commentary in duke nukem world tour one of them talks about how he always shoved those things into all his levels and he didn't know why since it s=pissed off even him..

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 07:38:58 2019 No.6005041 >>6005019 It's time to mow grass and sip Monster cans. And I'm all out of cans.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 07:39:44 2019 No.6005043 >>6003897 You can't really mention those 3 games here without everyone talking how shitty those are. Great games, sadly /vr/ is not the place to talk about them. Good luck finding some /v/irgins willing to talk about something that isn't Fortnite.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 07:51:03 2019 No.6005052

>>6003897
The 1st episode of Dusk was subpar, but the 2nd and especially the 3rd are much better.

Ion Fury is the only one that is truly retro, running on Build while the others use Unity, but suffers from sameness copypasted environments, it's most appealing for those that like secret hunting, which the game has tons of, and some are really obtuse to find.

Amid Evil doesn't really have retro graphics, it looks pretty, but the gameplay IS retro. It has the most variety out of the three.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 07:53:15 2019 No.6005057 >>6005052 Amid Evil looks like shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 07:55:08 2019 No.6005059 >>6005057 Only when compared to modern games, but it's not meant to be a "modern" game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 07:59:35 2019 No.6005065 >>6005057 your face looks like shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:00:01 2019 No.6005068 >>6005052 >sameness copypasted environments Reused textures/assets sure but the environments always felt hand-crafted to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:06:06 2019 No.6005072 >>6005065 your ass looks like shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:08:17 2019 No.6005073 >>6005052 >It has the most variety out of the three. Not really. Every episode just feels like a reskinned rehash of the previous, and most of the enemies are basic humanoids that shoot glowy projectiles at you.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:08:42 2019 No.6005074

>>6005052
>the others use Unity
Only Dusk uses Unity. Amid Evil uses Unreal Engine.
Also Wrath gonna use Quake / DarkPlaces

>>6005068
Not him, but they felt very samy.
I think it's mostly because of overabundance of details that modern machines allowed, which made same kind of detailing be seen very frequently.
Old games used details sparingly, in very limited, measured amounts,only emphasizing key elements of the scene.
And those repetitive detail elements caused different environments to feel repetitive as well.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:09:22 2019 No.6005076

>>6005057
Amid evil looks great. Sadly most people in this thread can't accept that some people want more than just wads over wads over wads. As soon as there is something trying to appeal to people like us you already lifted pitchfork and torch while at the same time complaining "all modern shooters are shit". Maybe it's just your mentality that's shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:09:40 2019 No.6005078 >>6005065 >>6005072 What's the difference?

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:14:02 2019 No.6005082

>>6005073
First world: mostly humanoid enemies
Second world: 1.5 humanoid enemy, tree of eyes, blobs of flesh, slime
Third world: Fire elementals, tree elementals that turn fire if you burn them, trees, floating faces, chunky golems
Forth world: Mostly humanoid enemies
5: things with spikes, balls, robots, fish
6: varied crystalline creatures like spiders, scorpions, snakes, dragons
7: both humanoid and non-humanoid voids

Sure there are 2 worlds where you fight nothing but humanoids, but that was the theme of the levels, and other world inhabitants are quite varied.

So, you, sir, are full of shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:21:52 2019 No.6005090 >>6004959 based

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:23:49 2019 No.6005092 >>6005073 >Zombie with Pistol >Zombie with Shotgun >Dude that throws fireball >Thing that runs at you >Flying thing that shoots a fireball >Tall guy that throws a fireball >Skull that dashes in your face

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:25:43 2019 No.6005095 >>6005073 t. confirmed for not having played it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:29:37 2019 No.6005102 >>6005092 as an edit: I know that Doom's enemies are great in design, I just wanted to show how hypocritical anon's point was.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:40:08 2019 No.6005110

>>6005082
I don't think I played them in the same order you did, and I only played four episodes before getting bored and dropping the game, but Astral Equinox, Solar Solstice, and Arcane Expanse were all built on very similar enemies. Arcane Expanse added some Skaarj-style side-rolling but that was it. More important are the enemy dynamics, or lack thereof in this case. Every M1 introduces you to the charges-at-you guys, the weak projectile guys, and then a flying projectile guy. Later, they introduce the bigger projectile guy. By the end of each episode you see roughly six enemies in total, and then when you start the new episode, it's like the reset button being hit. Domain of the Sentinels was the only episode that felt like a proper variation, though its progression still wasn't exactly great.
>>6005092
>>6005102
The design is the important part.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:42:58 2019 No.6005114 >>6003897 I think all 3 are at least good. Dusk is pretty ugly though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:44:33 2019 No.6005117 >>6005110 Shouldve played them in order lol. You played the only 2 that have purely human roster (because they are 2 knightly orders). Arcane expanse have plenty of non-human crystalline creatures tho.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:52:55 2019 No.6005125

>>6005117
Where was a specific order stated? I know the first one was first but after that it seemed like you could just pick as they opened.

I guess the snakes stood out a bit in Arcane Expanse since their acid puddled on the ground, but the big grosshopper things weren't really any different from the usual melee-charging enemies. It just felt like there weren't any game-changing enemies. A room with one Archville is completely different from a room without one. With Ion Fury, the red robe crossbow guys had the damage and spread to usually change my approach as well. With Amid Evil, it just felt like I was hopping between small/medium-sized rooms the same way, feeding my special ability bar with kills, and then using the special abilities every time I entered the obligatory big room with the bigger enemies. It's like I always had the drop on the enemy, which isn't how it should be in a classic fps.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 08:59:38 2019 No.6005131

>>6005110
Are you talking visual design or gameplay design? Because anon was talking about "basic humanoids that shoot glowy projectiles at you". Well, an Imp isn't that creative as well. A brown dude throwing a fireball.
Meanwhile Amid Evil has very good enemy design. Golems, Angels, green things that run at you insanely fast and I can't even explain what's luring in "The Forge". Gameplay and design wise Amid Evil is a great game.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 09:19:09 2019 No.6005153

>>6005131
Gameplay design. The imp is basic, yes, but eventually you get to the point when you have imps, pain elementals, manucubii, and revenants all in the same room. I never felt like the number or variety of enemies in a room really mattered in Amid Evil.

But if I ever fire it back up, I'll give The Forge a shot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 09:24:49 2019 No.6005159 >>6005153 Do that anon. My point wasn't that Doom's enemies are bad or that Amid Evil's enemies are straight better, just that you should't judge the game to quick. You might miss out on something you would enjoy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 09:40:58 2019 No.6005180 File: 1.23 MB, 2400x1848, EINsw8tWoAAAuK5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 09:42:04 2019 No.6005182 File: 1.33 MB, 2400x1848, EINsw8vXkAA2hkS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6005180

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>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 09:43:10 2019 No.6005185 File: 1.41 MB, 2400x1848, EINsw84XsAAQcwV.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6005182

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 09:44:15 2019 No.6005189 File: 1010 KB, 2048x1577, EIP4xIgXsAActev.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6005185

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 09:45:20 2019 No.6005191 File: 938 KB, 2048x1577, EIP4xIjWkAAlq8o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6005189

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 09:46:24 2019 No.6005193 File: 941 KB, 2048x1577, EIP4xMnXsAA0_zZ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6005191

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 09:46:38 2019 No.6005195 >>6005184 source?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 09:56:52 2019 No.6005209 >>6005180 >>6005182 >>6005185 >>6005189 >>6005191 >>6005193 cool

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 09:57:11 2019 No.6005210 >>6005185 Why did I read this as a manga and why did it still somehow make sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 10:07:25 2019 No.6005221 The Doom spooktober wad crashes my Nintendy switch ;__;

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 10:15:24 2019 No.6005226

>>6005193
That sphere part is great.

Holy fuck this comic was amazing. All action, no dialogue necessary. So well crafted. Introduced the entire arsenal in a organic way. I kinda wish it showed him picking up armour pieces to replace broken bits of his own armour or something. Maybe use some health vials.

10/10

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 10:32:36 2019 No.6005241
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You know what Its jank but its nowhere near as bad as people paint it, Redneck Rampage is giving me nostalgia waves for a game I never played back then. And the cd soundtrack is awesome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 10:58:43 2019 No.6005276 >>6005241 >>>And the cd soundtrack is awesome. Ufo's Big Rigs & Bbq is just great

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 11:01:31 2019 No.6005280 >>6005226 I think the guy plans on either collecting it or colouring it, he said something along those lines on his twitter (Tyrell Cannon) Honestly, id/Bethesda and publish it

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 11:05:03 2019 No.6005287

>>6005226
>I kinda wish it showed him picking up armour pieces to replace broken bits of his own armour or something.
Issue with that is he'd have to completely change the armor pieces from how the ingame sprites look, for it to make any sort of sense, and the comic is definitely trying very hard to stay faithful to the game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 11:17:38 2019 No.6005305 imagine thinking Dusk is bad what the fuck kind of shitty opinion is that? Dusk is awesome

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 11:26:24 2019 No.6005320 >>6005305 Dusk is great! As well as Ion Fury and Amid Evil.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 11:27:00 2019 No.6005324

Is there any sort of mod for Hexen that adds a few more weapons and monsters? New maps would be nice too, but I've played it to death and having some new stuff would be fun.

Used to play it with a friend on the N64 way back when, have a soft spot for it even if I realize now how bad that port was.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 12:05:46 2019 No.6005373 >>6005210 No words, beyond sound effects, and the comic is just a long extended action scene. Closest analogue would probably be G.I. Joe #21

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 12:14:46 2019 No.6005389 >>6005320 They are all pretty meh. Simply because they are more interested in being nostalgia trips than being their own games with a hint of nostalgia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 12:15:38 2019 No.6005391 Is killcount fucked in blood(gdx)? I swear searched the whole level and found secrets, but there are still missing enemies. Both train level and carnival had this problem.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 12:30:32 2019 No.6005412 File: 503 KB, 2280x1080, Screenshot_20191028-172814_YouTube_Vanced-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Doom1_pistolview.jpg

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 12:32:57 2019 No.6005416 File: 35 KB, 470x600, first person.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6005412

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 12:43:25 2019 No.6005432 >>6005416 Nobody holds guns like this

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 12:43:52 2019 No.6005435 >>6003803 Show us what your working on friend

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 13:01:16 2019 No.6005467 >>6005432 I hold your mom like this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 13:18:51 2019 No.6005495 >>6005416 kinda wished the later bfg designs kept the idea of the gun having those handles

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 13:20:24 2019 No.6005502 >>6002421 Is this guy voiced by the fag Martinet? Sounds as gay as Mario.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 13:21:41 2019 No.6005503 >>6005320 >low standards

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 13:24:53 2019 No.6005507 >>6002405 Finally the HD remastering we have always wanted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP7wZPu90W0

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 13:31:07 2019 No.6005521 Which game is better between Blood and Shadow Warrior?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 13:31:24 2019 No.6005523 >>6005507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFIdanlYFhE&t=76s

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 13:32:49 2019 No.6005526 >>6005226 >>6005287 Armor bits aren't human tech but demon magic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 13:36:39 2019 No.6005531 >>6005521 Blood easily, Shadow Warrior is ass

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 13:37:26 2019 No.6005534 File: 2.79 MB, 640x360, 2019-11-11 20-33-34.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > make bezier curve > instead of spawning a trail on it, use it for velocity for the trail pretty

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 13:48:02 2019 No.6005545 >>6005534 Nice. Shame that'll be in ZScript and be too advanced for my monkey brain.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 13:48:36 2019 No.6005546 >>6005193 >>6005191 >>6005189 >>6005185 >>6005182 >>6005180 Bretty gud

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:00:39 2019 No.6005569 File: 131 KB, 816x404, 1557943359754.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iXfWWrwrlQ >Boot Winquake >It starts playing HL soundtrack in game because of mounted CD.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:04:57 2019 No.6005578 >>6005569 Half-Life had music?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:07:46 2019 No.6005583 >>6004989 it was actually Sandy Peterson's design and levels

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:08:32 2019 No.6005585 >>6002407 D4T 2.5 releases November 16th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=122klRWFl5A

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:11:15 2019 No.6005592 File: 120 KB, 227x333, 1397410741090.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6005585 Holy Fuck that's beautiful.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:13:37 2019 No.6005593

>>6005585

There seems to be two approaches to doom, the RIP AND TEAR approach and the maze approach. This is the first one. I'm not a huge fan of it, and the meme view people have of doom now. That stupid comic (that people only read like 2 pages of and not realize he's high on berserker which wears off) distored a lot of people's views on the game.

I like Doom 1 way more since it has more slower paced maze stuff and doom 2 onwards had more fast based action with suepr shot gun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:14:01 2019 No.6005594 File: 21 KB, 500x473, 17mt0o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6005578 Yeah and it's wonderful too bad they play it only once and not for the entirety of the fucking chapter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:16:48 2019 No.6005603 >The game's popularity prompted Bill Gates to briefly consider buying id Software Imagine how history would turn out if it happened and Gaben, Carmack and Romero both made games together.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:17:23 2019 No.6005604 >>6005594 > music playing > get to next map loading segment > music doesn't continue playing next map

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:19:03 2019 No.6005607

>>6005593
Personally I like D4T approach. It gives enough Nu-Doom without being too bloated with it.
Other mods based on that game tend to have too much or not enough.

I tried D4T:Crucible Slayer edition.While it was best way to play D4T,I wasn't a fan of how Berserk plays.
Simply exploding into a pile of guts is much better.

It doesn't break maps nearly as much BD does.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:21:38 2019 No.6005612
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>>6005604
I seriously despise that.
You have bangers like:Adrenaline Horror,Military Precision and Hard Rock Technology but oops! You get to hear them only once.

Some parts didn't need music in order to build tension but come on not all of them.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:26:05 2019 No.6005623

>>6005603
On one side they would have a much better publisher like Valve.
Possibly a better budget as well and a proper modding scene for the new games.

On the other hand we wouldn't get much because Valve doesn't make games anymore.

Unless Carmack and Romero give them the motivation to make more.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:31:04 2019 No.6005630
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>>6002405

I don't really know if anybody can help me. but.

I'm running the last version of gzdoom(4.2.4) in kubuntu with project-brutality 3 and this is what appears on my screen.

This only happens with project brutality 3, others like hideous destructor or guncaster seem to work just fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:33:09 2019 No.6005635 >>6005630 Also, I don't even know whats the term for this kind of problem to look it in google, like "the screen looks weird" or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:41:33 2019 No.6005647 >>6005593 >the RIP AND TEAR approach and the maze approach. It's a gameplay mod, not a map. i.e you can play it on your beloved mazes.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 14:58:32 2019 No.6005671

>>6005593
sounds like /vr/
>>/vr/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=%22rip+and+tear%22&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=old&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 15:00:00 2019 No.6005675 >>6005521 Duke3d

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 15:05:27 2019 No.6005679 >>6005578 Yes. Look up the soundtrack on YouTube if you like some high tier WubWub and suspense music.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 15:08:59 2019 No.6005686 >>6005585 GMOTA 1.3 comes out the day before that. wew lad I'm in for some fun times. Hopefully I can beat 2016 on Ultra Nightmare before then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 15:10:15 2019 No.6005689 >>6005521 Blood > the rest of the build engine imho

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 15:12:03 2019 No.6005692 >>6005495 I don't frankly. I like the idea of Doomguy just being strong enough to hold it up at chest height like a fucking G

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 15:13:04 2019 No.6005695 >>6005623 Valve would've found a way to fuck it up. Thank christ we're still even getting Doom games, I don't want this timeline to ruin that too.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 15:13:13 2019 No.6005696

>>6005671
To be fair, this was before it became part of marketing and mainstream, same probably for Doot.
>>6005607
>>6005647
That's another thing with new Doom, there's a lot of ideas and stuff that work better in a more "Doom" level format.
As in "enemy placement and different encounters can actually exist in these maps".

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 15:14:20 2019 No.6005698 >>6005692 that's the thing, it was made for your typical uac guard that needed some support for it

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 15:17:17 2019 No.6005706 >>6005698 Maybe Doomguy should've just ripped the handles off in Doom 2016, that would've been sick.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 15:41:55 2019 No.6005754

>>6005696
>To be fair, this was before it became part of marketing and mainstream
that's not what the post was complaining about. it claimed that people said it because of the comic and referred to the "meme view people have of doom". so by all means and purposes he is complaining about old /vr/ back before it was uncool to say that phrase cause it got too popular.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 16:01:14 2019 No.6005786 >>6005647 In fact D4T actually encourages exploration since that's how you get alt-fires for your weapons (as well as powerups of course).

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 16:06:24 2019 No.6005792 >>6005698 >typical uac guard >carrying a weapon of mass destruction

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 16:14:24 2019 No.6005808 >>6005792 I think it's fairly established that the UAC isn't able to recognize bad ideas.

Anonymous Mon Nov 11 16:16:20 2019 No.6005810

I like to think they conceived the BFG first as a prototype for a giant fuckin gundam type mech, with each subsequent iteration on the design making it more fit for conventional use. The 10k design is also UAC crafted but they kept losing them to the demons, who would send through wormholes sending them over to the strogg menace and the vadrigar for use in their arenas.

I don't know, I just like hypothesizing a lot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 16:30:33 2019 No.6005838 >>6002405 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHMnZ-pjoMw

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 16:54:14 2019 No.6005882 Jesus, everything, EVERYTHING in which SAT-Powerslave is alike PC-Powerslave is such a rampant dumbfuckery, what the hell.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 17:52:13 2019 No.6005991 >>6005882 Elaborate

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 18:03:40 2019 No.6006017 File: 292 KB, 458x430, A&OXXL2_Quake.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ahh... my favorite arena FPS.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 18:09:07 2019 No.6006026 File: 371 KB, 670x360, Main_Page_Slider_(Mini_Games).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6006017 Wedding Cake was better

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 18:11:24 2019 No.6006039 Guys, can you bump this thread a little more frequently? We're not seeing it at the top of the catalog nearly often enough. Please, we can't get enough of that image in the OP. Sincerely, the rest of /vr/

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 18:13:34 2019 No.6006046 >>6003349 isn't brian peppers dead?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 18:15:36 2019 No.6006049 >>6006039 instead of setting up a filter to hide a thread you're tired of seeing, you decided to post in said thread without sage, therefore putting it on the top have you considered that you are your own problem here

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 18:17:11 2019 No.6006053 >>6002431 should probably finish that floor

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 18:18:41 2019 No.6006057 >>6006046 >isn't brian peppers dead? yes https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/toledo-oh/brian-peppers-4993862

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 18:23:52 2019 No.6006073 >>6006049 Sage does not work and has not worked for years, old man

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 18:37:49 2019 No.6006104 >>6006017 I liked Qarrot Qake better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 18:43:40 2019 No.6006112 File: 951 KB, 994x1275, 20190607_152004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6006017 would you pay the fare?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 18:48:56 2019 No.6006121 >>6006112 Man sigils do have a life of their own. Quake 3 one kinda has some power, element 3, look like crown around a figure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 18:57:31 2019 No.6006134 >>6005593 RIP AND TEAR and exploration are both entirely valid and important parts of the doom experience IMO

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 19:00:01 2019 No.6006139 >>6006026 >Wedding Quake Ftfy

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 19:06:21 2019 No.6006141 Do you guys ever organize deathmatch?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 19:29:56 2019 No.6006171 >>6003886 >>6003816 Sounds forced. What's the story behind it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 20:35:54 2019 No.6006265 >>6005092 >hitscan imp >balding hitscan imp >imp imp >melee imp >flying tomato imp >big imp >flying imp head >cyber imp >big fat hitscan imp

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 20:44:16 2019 No.6006282 So this isn't strictly /vr/ but where can i play my old fps? I found UT2004 at my parents house, is there still an active community? Can i register the cd key on steam or gog to find a bigger community?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 20:44:18 2019 No.6006283 >>6002405 OK, what does M210 mean by needing "runtime" on BuildGDX?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 20:46:19 2019 No.6006290 >>6006282 Speck's unreal /v/idya, we play vidya (sometimes) >>6006283 he means java runtime environment, which you need to play his port

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 20:58:38 2019 No.6006305 Is there like a, "top files of the week/month/" etc like Nexusmods has for doom wads? Not talking Cacoawards of course.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 21:09:18 2019 No.6006317 >>6006265 Damn, the Imp should be on the cover instead of Doomguy!

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 21:10:02 2019 No.6006319 >>6006171 Some guy thought it was funny and told artists to make more of it. That's literally it

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 21:11:59 2019 No.6006321 >>6006317 he already is, wearing green armor which exposes his chiseled midriff for some reason

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 21:15:47 2019 No.6006328 3 AM seems to me to be the perfect time to start with Ancient Aliens. What am I in for?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 21:16:59 2019 No.6006329 >>6006321 Doomguy was an Imp all along? How could we know?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 21:25:19 2019 No.6006337 >>6006329 imp encounter is canon

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 21:52:42 2019 No.6006360 Give me a quick rundown on Daikatana. Is it any good? I don't care about the marketing, I just want to know if the game is worth playing.

>>	jcr Mon Nov 11 21:56:57 2019 No.6006367 File: 3.49 MB, 2560x1080, spasm0001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6002407 Got some new stuff coming soon for you guys https://youtu.be/d-oDa_pAuSk

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 22:00:50 2019 No.6006373 File: 48 KB, 680x510, D8GGqgUVsAAP66K.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who's your favorite Doom content creator? I like Jimmy's midis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 22:26:45 2019 No.6006423 >>6006373 Years, even though they've still only released the one episode of Nihility. Some day I'll play the rest of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 22:28:13 2019 No.6006426 File: 166 KB, 800x496, pic01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6005435 Really early in, just focusing in the geometry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 22:45:48 2019 No.6006456 How do I display my strafe speed in the hub. Can't find the option in the zdoom wiki.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 23:41:02 2019 No.6006540 >>6006305 There used to be the /newstuff chronicles, but that's been on hiatus for nearly a year now. Best you can do is check https://www.doomworld.com/files/ when you want to see something new

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 11 23:41:18 2019 No.6006541 >>6002407 Not mine, and a few days old, but neat shit: https://youtu.be/X49gUc4p1Qg

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 00:15:30 2019 No.6006575 >>6006367 neat

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 00:19:16 2019 No.6006583 >>6006360 It's just bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 00:22:06 2019 No.6006587 >>6005534 Can you make it into a continuous wobbly beam?

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 00:36:53 2019 No.6006601
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>>6005593
>>6005671
The problem with modern "rip and tear"shindig is that those idiots at BethID took the silly meme and did it with a straight face. And then the public accepted it, unaware of its origins.

To me it is like if someone made an epic kaiju Longcat vs Tacgnol flick, and it got an unironic fan following from people completely unfamilliar with chans.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 00:41:00 2019 No.6006605

>>6005630
>>6005635
Dude you might want to have your GPU looked at.
My did about same thing, but only in certain games, while in other games it was fine. Then on one day it just stopped working.
Turns out half of the contacts on the chip overheated so much they disconnected from their bearings (unsoldered themselves? idk the propper term).
Thankfully after reballing it started working again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 00:43:47 2019 No.6006606 File: 38 KB, 300x600, DxgZRmRWoAAgXi_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6004959

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 00:47:04 2019 No.6006609 >>6006601 Honestly, who really cares?

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 01:00:10 2019 No.6006620
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When do you guys feel "done" with a mapset? Getting to the end of the final map? Getting to the end of everything including secret maps? 100% every map? Beating every map with no mid-level saves? Something else?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 01:08:21 2019 No.6006623 >>6006620 because I've got a short attention span and not a ton of time just beating the final map

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 01:22:50 2019 No.6006636 >>6006620 When i beat the final map, never been a completionist. If i really liked the wad and didnt find them already, ill warp to the secret map afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 01:38:50 2019 No.6006651 What's the difference between quake 1's movement and CPMA's?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 01:39:15 2019 No.6006653 File: 555 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20191111_225603.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do i fix the status bar face again

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 01:58:45 2019 No.6006686

>>6006360
Episode 1 is God Awful. Some of the level layoutings are neat, but it is a Ridiculous Pain In the Ass to play. A monstrous one.

Episodes 2 and 3 are where it's at. They are charming in their ways, memorable, well flowing. Sadly, they only ever hit THAT mark if you play on the last difficulty (good luck getting through ep1 on it) and without leveling either yourself or your sword (again, good luck getting through ep1 without leveling yourself). Otherwise they can be somewhat of a faceroll. That having been said, they are shorter than ep1, and, taken together, comprise more like 1/3 of the game, instead of 1/2.

The last, 4th, episode is somewhere in between of 1 and 2/3 balance-wise, but, how do I say, overall it's more or less early beta quality. In contrast with ep1 which was so overdone it was burnt to unedible crisp, ep4 very much is just "you know, whatever". That having been said it STILL plays better than episode1, but it's not, you know, all that genuinely enjoyable either. Has some bitching soundtracks, Modern Mystery, Caution, good stuff.

Anyway, I suffered through this thing continuously, on Shogun (savegems off though) and I absolutely don't recommend it. What I DO recommend is taking a look at cheat codes and either somehow warping yourself straight to the start of ep2 (Greece) or just godmoding through ep1 as quickly and not giving a fuck as possible. Also, again, for ep2/3 my recommendation is Shogun difficulty, not leveling, not using the sword, they are on the easy side regardless.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 02:08:14 2019 No.6006697 File: 2.74 MB, 502x384, gz.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6002405 How to hide error window on startup in gzdoom?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 02:11:09 2019 No.6006704 >>6006697 >B̈rütal Dööm̈ you can't

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 02:18:59 2019 No.6006719

>>6006651
CPMA movement uses quake 1's air movement values when holding left or right, quake 3's air movement values when holding left/right + up/down, and its own form of air control when holding up or down
it also uses a higher ground acceleration value - I think it's 4000ups^2 vs the standard 3200ups^2? don't quote me on that

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 02:28:24 2019 No.6006729 File: 81 KB, 877x458, .png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Doing some geometry into Trenchbroom. How I am going guys?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 02:42:56 2019 No.6006754 >>6006360 I've never played it but I honestly can't see how it can be worse than Blood 2

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 02:43:21 2019 No.6006756 File: 1 KB, 44x54, STFST01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6006653 downscaled the status bar sprite but not satisfied with the look

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 02:45:03 2019 No.6006760 >>6006729 There should be some kind of re-topologising comand in TB.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 02:55:35 2019 No.6006774 >>6006651 the same difference as between quake 1 and quake 2/3 but then the acceleration values don't match up you NERDS JUST DIAGONAL STRAFE AND TURN THE MOUSE WITH THE BEAT IT AINT ROCKET SCIENCE

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 02:58:35 2019 No.6006776 >>6006729 Horrible. I did circles & arches that way until I watched this video and learned how to do it properly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjzYKGm_DQk

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 02:59:02 2019 No.6006779 >>6006776 wew thanks

>>	Marisa Kirisame !!FrQCaIaTfJw Tue Nov 12 05:20:53 2019 No.6006948 >>6005630 disable motion blur, pb uses a broken version of the shader.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 05:25:52 2019 No.6006959 File: 73 KB, 900x900, gmanlives.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No matter what this guy is talking about he always sounds like he is asking a question

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 05:58:41 2019 No.6007001 >>6006697 by fixing the errors

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 06:10:28 2019 No.6007019 >>6004014 >Imagine the Amazon from DC and Baratus holding hands Imagine the porn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 06:26:07 2019 No.6007029 >>6007001 There are better ways to tell people to end themselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 06:48:24 2019 No.6007058 >>6006959 Because he's an aussie his entire life is questionable

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 07:02:14 2019 No.6007070 I finally beat Dark Carnival maybe two minutes ago. My fucking pinky hurts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 07:20:44 2019 No.6007094 >>6007070 >My fucking pinky hurts. from crouching?

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 07:25:09 2019 No.6007102

>>6006360
What I hear is that after patches, it's not awful (and modding out the AI companions makes the gameplay far smoother), more it's a passable game with some pretty bad design decisions, which together with bugs and obscene hype really turned people against it.

>>6006754
Hoh, yeah, fuck me. Blood 2 is legit *extremely* bad, I personally think it has barely any redeeming values at all, and I don't regard it as canon to Blood.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 07:26:55 2019 No.6007104 >>6007094 Other hand. I think I was gripping the fucking mouse too hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 07:29:41 2019 No.6007106 >>6007104 >>6007070 you're gonna love house of horrors

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 07:50:44 2019 No.6007120

>>6007104
Try to migrate to touchpad. It more than suffices for singleplayer games, ALTHOUGH you'll have to remap mouse buttons onto keyboard, for generality sake, using AutoHotkey. Like LMB to LeftAlt, RMB to CapsLock (Shift+Capslock will still activate/disactivate CapsLock-proper - well, depends on the actual remapping script; it does for me).

Also, almost all the major 2.5D FPS games can be successfully played keyboard-only (right hand is best situated on NumPad for that, in my opinion), with pretty much only Eradicator being a more or less notable exception.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 07:57:35 2019 No.6007129 >>6006373 I really like Impie stuff, even the books he wrote.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 08:01:46 2019 No.6007134 >>6007120 Well, there are also 2.5D games with floating cursor though. Like System Shock, Realms of the Haunting, CyClones from what I've heard about the latter. These are, naturally, not keyboard-only-friendly.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 08:02:47 2019 No.6007136

>>6006959
Well, what else should he do if he doesn't know what he talks about. He's a blind fan for the things he likes (like nu Doom) without seeing any flaws. On the other hand he thinks himself as some kind of FPS genius and is telling everyone "If you don't play the game like that, uhm, I'm sorry to say but you're playing the game wrong!".

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 08:22:03 2019 No.6007152 Reminder that 2.5D does not mean "sprites in 3D space" like many believe It means either gameplay or the visuals do not make use of Z axis, while the other part does.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 08:24:48 2019 No.6007154 >>6007120 why not play games with your feet while you're at it

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 08:34:36 2019 No.6007164 >>6007152 You mean like walls being all vertical, and vertical aiming being done through horizon shifting, so that to make texturemapping speedier?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 08:35:51 2019 No.6007169 >>6007154 Oh yeah, sure, much better to continue destroying your wrist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 08:37:10 2019 No.6007170 >>6007152 Or like maps being all created from overhead perspective due to tool-level limitations?

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 08:40:20 2019 No.6007175

>>6007164
>>6007164
>>6007170
Not really. If visuals have Z axis, and gameplay has Z axis, then it's a 3D game.
That's it. If you try to "acktually" it with particularies then you are inventing your own definition.
Thus limits like no RoR (due to map format limitations) or no proper freelook have no bearing on it, and both Doom and Duke 3D are actual 3D games, full stop. They have their limits, sure, but it's still 3D since both gameplay and visuals represent 3D space and if you try going beyond that then it can befurther argued and misconstrued that ANY game at all that is projected onto a flat screen is not 3D.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 08:53:57 2019 No.6007198 >>6006367 very cool

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 09:04:56 2019 No.6007224

>>6007175
Metal Gear Solid can be played off radar other than in its unrelated to the core loop "bazooka/sniper aiming minigame", thus it is 2.5D game after all, by your definition, isn't it? That's for one.
Second, the definition you use, was, at the end of the day, invented by someone, regardless of whoever it was. Why should I submit to other people's descriptions of the same reality I witness?

There are a bunch of games which share similar sets of traits, among which are: first person perspective with continuous movement and turning, sprite-based billboarded enemies, abundance of strictly vertical walls, characteristical perspective distortions on lookups/lookdowns where allowed, excessive vertical auto-aiming combined with much less pronounced horizontal one. Sometimes, the walls adhere to a grid or are placed in a set number of directions.

As long as you are aware with these and those games playing fairly similarly, you don't really even need any definitions. If you are, however, like, what is Marathon or what is Cybermage - then sure, knock yourself out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 09:06:35 2019 No.6007226 Isn't it weird how Quakes modding/mapping community is still very active and outputs loads of content and Quake 2 is just fucking dead. Where did quake 2 go so wrong lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 09:07:36 2019 No.6007227 >>6007226 >content >speedmap pack 2XX >content

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 09:10:18 2019 No.6007231 >>6007224 >thus it is 2.5D game after all, by your definition, isn't it? IIRC there are lifts and ramps in there, so no. And it's not "my" definition. It's the definition of a "3D game" - a game that plays in 3 axis, and visually presents 3 axis.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 09:15:01 2019 No.6007236

>>6007231
Enemies and cameras from higher floor levels do not see you. Which is quite embarassing, because even aforementioned Cybermage, which had explicitly floor-based maps (basically every map was laid out as a 4-story building) allowed you to interact with enemies on other floors, and them - with you.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 09:17:43 2019 No.6007238

>>6003897
>ion fury
Pretty much my GotY. I don't understand how people can like Build engine games but dislike this game.
>dusk
Yeah, not my cup of tea but I was never really the biggest Quake fan.
>amid evil
I know they probably want to counter the grey and brown meme in modern shooters but those loud colors are really challenging for me. I will probably give it another shot after beating Ion Fury on hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 09:19:02 2019 No.6007242 >>6007227 I guess you just ignore the Halloween pack, the jams, the Christmas pack ongoing. And 200 speedmap packs is still 200x more than anyone's making for Q2

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 09:20:55 2019 No.6007245

>>6007152
"2.5D" in practice means that the walls are not drawn using polygons like we expect in a "normal" 3D game but instead are drawn using a simpler and cheaper column drawing function. if the FPS allows for height variations but doesn't have perspective-correct freelook, it's 2.5D.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 09:25:43 2019 No.6007249

>>6007231
Also, let's review another extreme, Wizardry-likes. So, you move in discrete steps, the turns are strictly 90 degrees. You have a picture of what locales look like 2-3 steps before you. Not even monsters, those usually pop up in jack-from-the-box like manner, initiating "tactical combat" minigame.

Now, what I am leading to, is that dungeon FLOORS are absolutely flat. You only ever move north or south or west or east in them. You fight with monsters in a separate minigame, you loot chests and pick doors in a separate minigame, yadda-yadda. HOWEVER, dungeons have multiple floors, connected with ladders up and ladders down and, sometimes, HOLES. Which you can levitate over OR drop down taking some damage - and ending in one of the lower floors. Noe what I AM leading to is that said lower floor do absolutely have room unreachable by any other means than DROPPING DOWN A CORRECT HOLE which has to FIRST BE DEDUCED by means of OVERLAYING and ACTUALLY COMPARING THE FLOOR MAPS you are TYPICALLY REQUIRED TO DRAW YOURSELF. No, I wonder, does the OVERLAYING part count as the presense of the third dimension in those games' gameplay as per your definition?!

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 09:51:20 2019 No.6007291 I tried Doom 2016 for the first time today and it's very bad

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 10:02:20 2019 No.6007305 >>6007291 k

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 10:24:05 2019 No.6007342 >>6007291 basicly Serious Sam in a Doom skin. No problem with Serious Sam, but let Doom be Doom.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 10:42:32 2019 No.6007378 >>6007342 Serious Sam and Dewd2016 are nowhere alike

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 10:45:07 2019 No.6007382 >>6007378 You're right, Serious Sam doesn't have a 12 enemy limit.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 10:54:49 2019 No.6007391

>>6007378
>>>Serious Sam and Dewd2016 are nowhere alike
Let's see...we got a areas you get locked in till you killed everything, non-stop running and shooting and let's not forget that after about half the game there is nothing new and you just repeat the same stuff till the end. Yeah...sry anon, how could I compare those two?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 11:11:00 2019 No.6007417 >>6007391 see >>6007382

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 12:07:09 2019 No.6007494 >>6007129 I should get around to playing his stuff someday.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 12:10:19 2019 No.6007502
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I dunno how possible this us in scripting or how well it's work balancewuse in existing maps because it changes behavior so much, but I've had this mod in my head for a while now
>doomguy's been lost in hell for decades
>tired old man who can't tell reality from nightmares anymore
>starts with a couple old weapons, most of them break after a couple shits and have to be replaced
>hell is in a similar state because of his presence, and demons are more and more warped and eldritch abd mechanical as hell tries to adapt to him
>revenants are missing their arms and kick or use bows with their feet and mouths, lead their shots if you strafe in a straight line
>imp spikes are wildly overgrown and too heavy to lift, they fire more slowly but their melee wrecks you
>pain elementals are bloated and can't fly anymore, they boomrush you and throw explosive skulls at short range instead
>zombies are liquified puddles sometimes, or tiny revenants with shitty old guns
>archviles are having the time if their lives, and will sometimes revive monsters as a better one instead but with only 1HP
>cacodemons just lay on the floor sleeping because fuck this shit they don't care anymore
>barons and hellknights are partially mechanized like failed cyberdemons

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 12:11:38 2019 No.6007505 File: 789 KB, 1200x976, 1565997946769.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6002405 New Civvie https://youtu.be/J8WEhRvEY6M

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 12:19:15 2019 No.6007524 >>6002405 How long does it take for an archvile to revive a fellow dead demon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 12:32:37 2019 No.6007548 >>6003897 Ion fury is not only mediocre, but it killed the Duke modding scene as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 12:47:42 2019 No.6007578 >>6007505 Probably my favourite doom aesthetically over the years, hampered by console lack of memory. Shame really Doom 3 was meh, becasue I think dark ish doom mixed with horror makes doom better than rip and tear, now with play doh eternal.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 12:51:08 2019 No.6007586
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I fucking love Doom but I just don't understand the appeal of this game.

It's slower (yes I know you can HUH around but the game is still slower, the creators even acknowledge this), the levels are poorly designed and short, the enemies are quite boring and uninspired, shooting feels weightless and floaty and the entire game is just a bland shit brown that's unappealing to the eye.

I get that it was a big deal back when it released because of the technology behind it, but why do people still try to claim it's some masterpiece FPS?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 12:52:46 2019 No.6007589 >>6007586 Zoomer

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 12:53:57 2019 No.6007592 >>6007589 I'm not but it is true that I didn't play Quake as a child so I don't have that nostalgia.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 12:56:03 2019 No.6007596 File: 8 KB, 255x262, HUHH.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6007586 OK Doomer

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 13:06:05 2019 No.6007605 >>6007586 > poorly designed and short more consistent than doom 1 (after ep1) or 2 was theyre compact and full of action a proper third dimension meant that levels didn't need to be as large on the XY axis

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 13:11:19 2019 No.6007616 >>6007586 None of that is true at all. Did you consider your perception may be because you suck dick and are gay?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 13:16:17 2019 No.6007624 >>6007616 I both suck dick and am gay, and I enjoy Quake. How does that change anything

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 13:17:27 2019 No.6007627 >>6007391 >after about half the game there is nothing new and you just repeat the same stuff till the end Sounds like every shooter since Wolf3D.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 13:22:18 2019 No.6007635 >>6007627 >>>/r9k/

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 13:25:09 2019 No.6007639 >>6007635 >>/notanargument/

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 13:31:05 2019 No.6007646 >>6006601 it's like when people keep misremembering a popular catch phrase due to mandella effect, from a movie and then they make a new one and it's throwbacks are about how people said it and remembered it than what the movie was about

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 13:33:15 2019 No.6007650 Okay but where are the mods that turn the enemies into lolis

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 13:40:54 2019 No.6007657

>"Your fatigue was enormous, the price for encountering pure evil. Hell was a place no mortal was meant to experience. Stupid military doctors: their tests and treatments, were of little help. In the end, what did it matter - it was all classified and sealed. The nightmares continued. Demons, so many Demons; relentless, pouring through."

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 13:42:02 2019 No.6007658 >>6007650 Stylish Hell does that partially.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:00:16 2019 No.6007698 >>6007382 Yeah, instead Serious Sam has fucking thousands of enemies at once, as if that's better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:10:36 2019 No.6007718 >>6007650 Look somewhere else, pedo.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:11:09 2019 No.6007720
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Jesus. Finally. I'm done. Last update on the ZSDF editor for now. Had to make the importer read XML files instead of the DIALOGUE lumps directly, at least for the time being so there's some form of progress saving available. The XML is generated when exporting a dialogue, along with the dialogue file itself.

I'll release it next week, because I gotta go away for a few days, plus I want to do some real scenario work to test it more thoroughly and polish it some more before release. I'm sure I've missed something. Also need to write the documentation. Planning on putting the source for the entire toolkit up on GitLab as well.

As a bonus, I've managed to optimize the tree view. Went from loading 200 conversations in 1 minute to 500 conversations in 5 seconds. Of course you have to be pretty fucking mental to load 500 convos, but hey, at least you can.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:16:51 2019 No.6007729 >>6007650 closest you got is shooting a hanging shota 4 times after you kill nazis in doom 2

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:17:29 2019 No.6007731 >>6007650 Some day...

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:18:16 2019 No.6007734 >>6007698 point was that nu Doom is like Serious Sam instead of classic Doom

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:25:17 2019 No.6007742 >>6007586 >the levels are poorly designed Some of your points are subjective, but come on, Quake's levels are wayyy more consistent and well-designed than the gimmicky hodge-podge that is Doom 2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:31:16 2019 No.6007751 File: 1.61 MB, 2978x2393, quaketechdemo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Today I will remind them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:34:37 2019 No.6007757 File: 161 KB, 447x447, b1b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6007751 I will also remind them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:34:53 2019 No.6007758 >>6007751 Whoever says Quake has a weak singleplayer is a stupid faggot who should be murdered with a belt sander.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:36:20 2019 No.6007761 >>6007757 Good thing I'm not a Christian. Get up against the cross so I can crucify you with the nailgun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:36:57 2019 No.6007762 >>6007761 I'm not a Christian either, anon. It's a meme ya dip.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:37:42 2019 No.6007764 >>6007751 Yep, this is a good reminder that just because it's published in book form doesn't mean it's true.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:38:03 2019 No.6007765 >>6007762 Quake is my religion, hence why I take offense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:38:34 2019 No.6007768 Why can't we just enjoy the games we love instead of trying to shit on other ones?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:39:00 2019 No.6007769 >>6007761 Are you nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humour?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:43:38 2019 No.6007775 >>6007768 Because certain people don't care either way for the game they mention and just like to start shit because it's easy to do

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:43:39 2019 No.6007776 File: 178 KB, 736x1024, 5fa737f280aab171f6a24a9c0ed1ed09.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6007761 >Saint Clavus Telum This sounds cool as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:44:19 2019 No.6007778 >>6007769 m'lady

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:48:03 2019 No.6007781 >>6007120 Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't smoke enough crack to play Blood with a fucking touchpad, let alone keyboard-only.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:49:14 2019 No.6007782 Is there a list of linedef actions that monsters can trigger? "GR Door open stay", and "wr lift lower wait raise" are the two I'm aware of. "DR door open wait close" I suppose...

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 14:57:40 2019 No.6007790 >>6007769 No, I actually quite dislike nihilism. Some people seem to think I'm funny, but I'm not convinced.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:03:13 2019 No.6007798

Didn't MGS1 had a bit where you had to go to different rooms and areas to alter a keycard's temperature in a specific sequence to activate it?
Is that possible to do with Doom keycards?
Like first you must go to a warm area to use the key, then use it again after you've been in a cold one?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:12:46 2019 No.6007805 >>6007798 In the sense that you could script a sequence like that with a sourceport with a scripting language, such as GzDoom, yes you could.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:17:08 2019 No.6007815 Daily reminder. >>6007803

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:18:53 2019 No.6007820 >>6007720 Good work anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:23:35 2019 No.6007831 >>6007505 poor tnt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:27:10 2019 No.6007836 >>6007505 >"better than Doom 1 and most of Doom 2" Wow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:27:14 2019 No.6007837 >>6007831 it's so boring, man. I couldn't bring myself to complete it. The first couple maps are okay but man does it just become tedious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:28:32 2019 No.6007839 >>6007837 oh I don't disagree.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:30:07 2019 No.6007843 Why do you retards like hl1 so much? Is shit taste?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:33:07 2019 No.6007850 >>6007843 Hey Alf, I missed you

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:33:41 2019 No.6007852 >>6007850 obsessed

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:34:23 2019 No.6007854 >>6007852 Kettles are indeed black

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:42:47 2019 No.6007870 thief will be always superior valve drones.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:43:07 2019 No.6007871 >>6007870 ok alf :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:50:06 2019 No.6007881 >>6002813 How do you do this? Zscript?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:52:27 2019 No.6007886 >>6007843 Oh hey, they let you out on parole?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 15:53:54 2019 No.6007889 >>6007881 Yeah, entirely zscript. The projectile/beam is an actor with a "tick override", where it adds additional checks and actions to the ones all actors do automatically 35 times a second.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 16:00:31 2019 No.6007906 >>6007889 I was curious about the beam too. I could never get a beam like that using ACS and decorate.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 16:18:13 2019 No.6007938

>>6007906
You can do it in ACS/Decorate, but it's way more annoying since you can't use proper pointers or arrays.

The trick to making a beam is using a 3D model actor that's 1 (1.2 due to pixel stretch) units in height. You then scale it's height to the length you want and the width become radius. After that you tilt it 90 degrees, and presto you've got a beam. To make a curved beam, you have to stitch together many small straight ones.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 16:25:39 2019 No.6007949 >>6005391 88/90 is your best bet on Phantom Express and 122/124 is your best bet on Dark Carnival. I think the latter (as well as some other levels) have something to do with those gargoyle statues placed around as decoration.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 16:50:54 2019 No.6007987 >>6005604 I'm pretty sure the music doesn't stop after a map change in the WON version

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 16:54:57 2019 No.6007992 File: 31 KB, 420x245, dsda.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6002407 Andy Olivera steps down, adds final update to DSDA: http://doomedsda.us/news.html

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 17:07:53 2019 No.6008012

>>6007391
They really are nothing alike outside of the fact that they're both arena shooters. People just pool the two of them together for that same reason (PK too as it is pretty much gothic SS with some extra elements thrown into the mix for good measure), discounting things like the fact that 2016 has a sense of nonlinear map structure and progression, enemies above stone-throwing tier AI, and more visually distinctive areas. If I had to draw comparisons I'd say God Of War sits closer to it than SS.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 17:08:16 2019 No.6008013 >it's a MAP07 episode

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 17:16:25 2019 No.6008025 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLHRztQlZkA

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 17:22:01 2019 No.6008032 >>6007836 Historically speaking aside he's not the far off. D2 is pretty much a glorified map pack.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 17:25:28 2019 No.6008040 >>6008013 pretty fucking short episode then

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 17:35:31 2019 No.6008058
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What other game series besides Doom have twisted versions of Hell?
Something that could compete or even overcome the classic Inferno.
And look like what Doom 2016's Hell could have been.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 17:42:09 2019 No.6008072 >>6007586 Play Arcane Dimensions. If you don't like that then ok

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 17:46:13 2019 No.6008074 File: 83 KB, 900x635, 1570729603198.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6007751 >Quake 2 >Good single player campaign

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 17:46:19 2019 No.6008075 >>6007720 Fuck yeah, I'm pretty excited, anon. Now I'm gonna have to check these threads like a hawk.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 17:48:05 2019 No.6008078 >>6007949 Yeah I noticed that they bleed if you hit them with your pitchfork.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 17:49:02 2019 No.6008079 marveller's videos being reuploaded just reminded me of some shit going on with youtube so, just in case, anyone here may want to back up any doom related video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8eJDA6sXQI

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 18:00:27 2019 No.6008093 >>6008032 In a sense, but the new monsters really add a lot to the gameplay, and Doom 64 lacks two of the best ones.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 18:06:55 2019 No.6008105 https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9552 What other mods make the icon of sin an enemy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 18:29:09 2019 No.6008136 >>6008093 Which let's be honest would wreck 99% of console plebs at the time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 18:39:11 2019 No.6008157 >>6008032 >D2 is pretty much a glorified map pack. Except for doubling the monster roster, sure.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 18:48:11 2019 No.6008171

I think the main source of influence behind William Gee's WGCity map for Duke Nukem 3D is Metroid: Fusion. I fail to see any other possibility, Fusion is the exact kind of "Mentalvania" that takes place in WGCity, and there weren't any other comparably significant games in the genre at the time, barring possibly Prime 2, which I don't think does that kind of thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 18:52:43 2019 No.6008180 >>6008058 Is that American McGee's Alice?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 18:54:08 2019 No.6008183 >>6008180 The sequel. Alice: Madness Returns.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 18:54:20 2019 No.6008184 >>6008180 Alice madness returns.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 18:57:32 2019 No.6008191 >>6008183 >>6008184 Right. I wonder if I should go back to finish that game. Never played the original either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 19:07:23 2019 No.6008198 >>6008191 It was tedious to some extent and I stopped playing in oriental section of the game, but eventually finished it. First game was better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 19:08:54 2019 No.6008203 >>6008198 I'd most be in it for the world and visuals anyway. Hopefully that new Alice game in the works will be decent.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 19:10:30 2019 No.6008204
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Got back to working on my map after a bit of a hiatus. Fixed this hall I was working on by making more space. I don't really know what texture would be best for the ceiling, do you guys have any suggestions?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 19:23:14 2019 No.6008220 >>6008204 use the dark brown that looks like packed soil, but with some marbley bits here and there

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 19:36:06 2019 No.6008243 Thief is a masterpiece. And will continue to be so while HL is forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 19:38:21 2019 No.6008248 Shadow Warrior is a masterpiece. And will continue to be so while Marathon is forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 19:42:57 2019 No.6008253 Quake is a masterpiece. And will continue to be so while Quake 2 is forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 19:50:12 2019 No.6008270 >>6005706 It doesn’t have handles in 2016.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 19:50:35 2019 No.6008273 Doom is a masterpiece. And will continue to be so while Quake is forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 19:51:31 2019 No.6008274 >>6007657 Does Doomguy have Hell PTSD?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 19:56:20 2019 No.6008285 Wolfenstein 3D is a masterpiece. And will continue to be so while Doom is forgotten

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 19:56:59 2019 No.6008289 >>6008285 Ah almost got it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 20:00:53 2019 No.6008296 >>6008289 maybe do any of id's fps before wolfenstein

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 20:36:27 2019 No.6008341 Catacomb 3-D is a masterpiece. And will continue to be so while Wolfenstein 3D is forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 20:46:33 2019 No.6008357 >>6008204 lighting is too bright and flat >>6008248 unironically true

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 20:48:12 2019 No.6008363 >>6007586 The only thing I don't really like about quake is shamblers and vores

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 20:51:12 2019 No.6008368 Half-Life is a masterpiece. And will continue to be so while Doom is forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 20:52:03 2019 No.6008370 3D Monster Maze is a masterpiece. And it will continue to be while Doom is forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 21:06:09 2019 No.6008393 Books where masterpieces. And they will continue to be while all other media is forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 21:13:58 2019 No.6008417 File: 139 KB, 383x364, 1562604878867.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6008363 You shall not dislike the almight shambler! Vores are still shit tho.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 21:30:31 2019 No.6008447 File: 30 KB, 612x408, rolling up sleeves.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6008363

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 21:49:26 2019 No.6008473 >>6008393 actually this

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 21:49:42 2019 No.6008474 >>6008171 Come to think of it, there is also another possibilty, I haven't previously thought about, Warrior Within.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 22:02:23 2019 No.6008493 >>6008447 hitscan is shit fight me

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 22:04:59 2019 No.6008497 File: 5 KB, 225x225, 1573614299659.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6008493 grow a pair

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 22:07:35 2019 No.6008504 >>6008493 It really is though, there's no reason not to use fast projectiles nowadays. Even if they're functionally equivalent at most ranges it's still better just because the visuals and game objects line up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 22:27:41 2019 No.6008540 File: 2.74 MB, 2997x2000, 1573615661648.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6008493

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 22:31:11 2019 No.6008547 So what youtube celebrity barfed out a bit about hitscan recently? The kids have been throwing the word around a lot suddenly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 22:37:28 2019 No.6008558 >>6007505 >doom 64 getting love what a great day... new monster pack when? and no, brutal doom 64 new monster are not good

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 22:43:59 2019 No.6008565 File: 1.11 MB, 1237x659, 1566284057334.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6008357 Trying to give it some better lighting, should the steps be lit where the light would cross over or should they be dark like between the two pillars?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 22:57:23 2019 No.6008582 File: 522 KB, 777x500, 1573617443750.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6008493

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 23:16:37 2019 No.6008603 Is there better mod than Project Brutality?

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 23:20:41 2019 No.6008609
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>>6005585
What control scheme should I use for Thief Gold? When I click "LOAD" it gives me these options:

Thief Default Bindings
Unreal Bindings
Quake Bindings
WASD Bindings
Thief Classic Bindings
TFix default

I'm using the GOG version, incase that matters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 23:31:28 2019 No.6008617 >>6008603 yeah.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 23:32:12 2019 No.6008618 >>6008603 yeah, a bunch

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 23:38:31 2019 No.6008626 >>6008603 Plenty.

Anonymous Tue Nov 12 23:39:03 2019 No.6008628
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>>6005706
>>6008270
>finally get into the test chamber to get the BFG
>Hayden starts giving doomguy the quick rundown on how to use his experimental, highly dangerous, one of a kind weapon
>doomguy turns it over in his hand and looks at it, tries shouldering it a few time and finds the shoulder dongles keep snagging on his armour and make it a bitch to shoulder quickly
>While Hayden is telling doomguy how to use the shoulder dongles to not turn his collar bone to dust when he fires it, he tears off the guards and practices shouldering quickly, and moves along satisfied with his modification, much to Hayden's frustration

Doom 2016 did a fantastic job of giving personality to a character who never speaks and never has his face shown.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 23:46:08 2019 No.6008639 File: 297 KB, 547x544, 1567061696525.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Quake is a perfect game, not in its design and not in its intent, but it's the first 10/10 this medium has produced More on that later

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 23:49:19 2019 No.6008645 Redpill me on Quake 1.5

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 12 23:54:02 2019 No.6008654 >>6008645 Brutal Quake

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 00:40:01 2019 No.6008731 Any other mods besides smooth doom and pkdoomsfx to spruce up vanilla a little bit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 00:51:05 2019 No.6008743 >>6008731 you need a wad because fuck playing vanilla levels

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 01:08:18 2019 No.6008770 >>6003291 Here you go, you sick fucks. mediafire.com/file/cyd5pgb23vlr7b7/abyssal_school.zip/file

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 01:11:13 2019 No.6008778 >>6008770 By the way, it only works on ZDoom for some reason.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 01:13:19 2019 No.6008781

looking back at doom 64 it makes perfect sense if doom 2016 were a followup

>game is a bit grittier and the monologues indicate that doomguy was pretty scarred wrecking hell in doom 1 and 2, obsessed, even
>at the end doomguy decides to stay in hell, punishing them forever

>this is literally EXACTLY how doom 2016 is set up
>all of doomguy's actions in 2016 indicate two things: doomguy has been through all of this before and knows what he's doing, and H A T E S demons and those who enable them

They would actually be fools to throw this aside in favor of him being some stupid forgettable knight from another dimension.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 01:23:50 2019 No.6008795 >>6006756 downscale using interpolation

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 01:33:51 2019 No.6008809 >>6008781 nobody cares virgin

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 01:34:54 2019 No.6008812 >>6008645 expertly shits on quake's simple elegance

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 01:42:19 2019 No.6008819 >>6008809 settle down ok

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 01:48:38 2019 No.6008827 >>6008809 I care.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 01:52:47 2019 No.6008834 >>6008609 It's quick enough to set up yourself. None of the defaults are perfect imo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 02:59:06 2019 No.6008913 >>6002407 >Guncaster Vindicated >Guncaster Vindicated bigger, is he better or not?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 03:01:15 2019 No.6008917 File: 306 KB, 2606x1388, tmp_26679-1566217056535463609683.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6005389 >mfw I put 6 hours in them combined and doing the 3rd Hedon run on the Berzerk difficulty after 20 hours of playtime

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 03:27:09 2019 No.6008937 >>6007646 More people in the US probably know the phrase "Play it again, Sam" than that Casablanca is even a real city.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 03:34:10 2019 No.6008941 File: 27 KB, 103x125, 1530888390952.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6008937 ...Casablanca is a city?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 03:47:37 2019 No.6008956 >>6006601 >BethID took the silly meme and did it with a straight face Not really... Don't think we played the same game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 04:02:56 2019 No.6008968 >>6008819 >>6008827 have sex zoomslayer fans

>>	Father Electronics Couture Wed Nov 13 04:42:01 2019 No.6009002 File: 27 KB, 425x520, 71QVHsxEXHL._SX425_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6002405 >Pet baby caco I converted one into a fleshlight. Shit is so cash

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 04:48:54 2019 No.6009007 Why exactly couldn't Doom 64 have another 4 frames of reload animation? People say "storage space" but they really couldn't save 40 more frames of sprites?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 05:02:03 2019 No.6009023 >>6008834 Which most resembles Thief 2?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 05:03:55 2019 No.6009027 >>6008956 Before nuDoom "rip and tear" was a silly meme, anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 05:22:10 2019 No.6009050 >>6009002 dare I say it based and redbluepilled

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 05:26:11 2019 No.6009057 so how do you deal with instense feeling of deja vu after a hard day shitposting on an anonymous anime BBS

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 05:45:21 2019 No.6009074 https://www.theguardian.com/games/2019/nov/12/doom-creator-john-romero-shooter-games-id-software

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 06:04:03 2019 No.6009096

>>6009074
imagine living romero's life
you were born to be a shampoo commercial model
your game design career started high and ended so low you've become a joke
and yet all people wanna talk about is Doom, 25 years after you made it
and that's the only string to your bow nowdays, so you're only too happy to oblige

it's a lynchian kind of hell

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 06:09:27 2019 No.6009104 Romero's wife's new game actually sounds pretty cool too bad it will probably be an epic games exclusive and therefore doomed to fail

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 07:18:17 2019 No.6009168 >>6008617 >>6008618 >>6008626 Name it

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 07:21:34 2019 No.6009171 File: 1.01 MB, 760x2176, 1414580259563.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6009168 Final Doomer, High Noon Drifter, Lt. Typhon, and Hideous Destructor.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 07:25:42 2019 No.6009175 >>6007120 I use a drawing tablet instead of a mouse and it has been working out surprisingly well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 07:53:23 2019 No.6009193 >>6008603 If you are old enough to post here, yes. If gore is the only thing you care for...grow up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 08:00:47 2019 No.6009205 >>6008917 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 08:32:07 2019 No.6009247 >>6008603 Brutal Doom (purified version of PB)

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 08:53:41 2019 No.6009272 >>6007751 >such as Valve, which developed Half-Life using the Quake II engine

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 09:21:01 2019 No.6009328 >>6008628 Like when he saved VEGA?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 09:24:06 2019 No.6009334 >>6008781 The Blood Keep, a level from Doom 64, is mentioned in a codex entry about how they managed to knockout Doomguy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 09:56:21 2019 No.6009367 >>6009168 Project Brut-... oh god!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 09:58:14 2019 No.6009369 >>6009168 High Noon Drifter. I got a thing for the Wild West.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 10:10:44 2019 No.6009391 >>6009168 Gmota and metadoom

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 10:19:23 2019 No.6009403
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>>6008781
I always had the thought that it's possible that he's in some kind of time loop where universal events keep repeating but always slightly different than before. But I'm sure Eternal will shit on that idea and go for something more boring.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 10:40:29 2019 No.6009424 >>6008609 Tfix default I think already come with wasd. There is nothing complicated except putting crouch on a comfortable key, or just toggle for me, and the inventory. >>6008917 Well futa faggots are a bit on the austimo side so it checks out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 11:18:25 2019 No.6009484 The Bloom demo looks great but plays like ass; truly the modern day KDiZD.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 11:18:49 2019 No.6009485 >>6009104 Is Brenda a trannie?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 11:24:32 2019 No.6009491 >>6009104 Isn't that shit a Paradox published game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 11:27:42 2019 No.6009502 >>6009484 >implying KDiZD looks great

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 11:29:37 2019 No.6009510 >>6009502 Some of them have pretty good detailing but they're utter shit to play.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 11:39:49 2019 No.6009530 >>6008136 yeah it's not like doom 2 got ported to consoles or anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 11:49:27 2019 No.6009546 >>6008628 I really like the generic marine design in Eternal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 11:54:02 2019 No.6009552 File: 120 KB, 1200x652, EJRH-IUXYAIi8Tk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6002405

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 12:08:39 2019 No.6009582 >>6009485 no, just an aging bimbo

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 12:10:29 2019 No.6009584 >>6009491 hell that might be even worse there are so many "sound kinda cool" gaems coming out waiting, seeing and hopefully remembering the name of it in 5 years is the only rational course of action really

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 12:10:35 2019 No.6009585 all the games discussed in this thread are masterpieces, as shown by the fact that they haven't been forgotten for decades

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 12:13:06 2019 No.6009589 File: 24 KB, 425x425, 817dxnt7bAL._SX425_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6009585 As with everything, give it some time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 12:24:24 2019 No.6009605 >>6009589 what's this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 12:57:14 2019 No.6009648 >>6009168 Project MSX

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 14:09:46 2019 No.6009734

How do you play Doom64EX? The mouse is still bugged even with the Windows 10 SDL fix. Link to nightly builds is dead. I tried to build it from source but got stuck. I have built the libfluidsynth.lib and placed it in extern\lib folder along with the win32 dependencies as said here https://github.com/svkaiser/Doom64EX#compiling-on-windows, but cmake gives me the "Could NOT find FluidSynth (missing: FLUIDSYNTH_INCLUDE_DIR)" message while configuring. I have tried to rename the libfluidsynth.lib to fluidsynth.lib, and also tried to build .dll by changing "Configuration type" to "Dynamic library" in Project->Properties but it doesn't want to compile that way. What am I missing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 14:19:53 2019 No.6009749 >>6006367 release it now or else

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 14:30:40 2019 No.6009781 More footage of PowerslaveGDX. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQCovAxysoA

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 14:35:51 2019 No.6009793 >>6009605 Royal Game of Ur, a board game approximately five thousand years old

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 14:36:24 2019 No.6009794 >>6009605 the game of ur it's like 4000 years old, people still play it in the middle east i think >>6009781 so is that the pc version of powerslave or what?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 14:38:32 2019 No.6009798 >>6009403 Sounds odd. I'd rather go for the Well theory in all honesty.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 14:47:08 2019 No.6009809 >>6009794 Yep. Completely different game than the Saturn/PS1 game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 15:01:11 2019 No.6009825 What is the best way to play Quake II? Why is there no dl link or sourceport in the OP?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 15:02:42 2019 No.6009829 >>6009734 Replacing the SDL.dll worked for me. No idea what your issue is. Try another version of SDL maybe. I used this one https://www.libsdl.org/release/SDL-1.2.15-win32.zip

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 15:08:12 2019 No.6009839 >>6009825 yquake2 >>6009829 Well, fuck me then. It just doesn't work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 15:10:20 2019 No.6009843 Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wants some wang. The exaggerated low whine cracks me up everytime, god bless the guy who had fun making wang voice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 15:37:04 2019 No.6009891 >>6009781 >>6009781 Never been a fan of how this version looked.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 15:38:12 2019 No.6009893 Are there any console commands for Quake that could help boost performance? I'm running modern mods and levels on a weaker device and some of the insanely detailed levels chug.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 15:38:22 2019 No.6009894 >>6007586 Arcane. Dimensions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 15:39:28 2019 No.6009896 >>6009825 epsxe

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 15:41:44 2019 No.6009901

>>6009096
Dude probably makes 6 figures just going from convention to convention, signing autographs, taking pictures with adoring fans that love him, playing Doom with fans, selling books and merch, giving q&a's, getting royalties.

How the fuck people can think that's not a decent quality life I'll never understand. I'd trade lives in a heartbeat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 15:42:23 2019 No.6009903 >>6009825 yamagi Q2 because Q2 sucks (except if you can get a quetoo match going somehow, it's more fun than vQ3)

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 15:51:35 2019 No.6009907 >>6009825 Retroarch just added a Quake 2/3/Doom 3 cores in the latest builds

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 16:16:22 2019 No.6009948
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>>6009809
I loved a Robotica on the Saturn, its a mediocre fps, but I loved the idea behind it, you control a robot drone trying to disable a bigger robot weapon station of mass destruction from the inside.

Badass idea, and would loo great today remade. Great ambiance. Great intro cinematic.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 16:19:02 2019 No.6009954
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>>6009948
I liked Kileak and its sequels (epidemic, brahma force) on the psx too, I miss robot FPS games. Gungriffon Blaze on the PS2 is fucking excellent.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 16:21:19 2019 No.6009960 >>6009901 This. He's making a middle class salary working a handful of days out of the year. Dude lives in a tax haven with his big tittied blonde wife. Do you really think he lies in bed awake at night, regretting Daikatana?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 16:22:47 2019 No.6009968 >>6009960 He probably does regret it a little, a man with an ego like that doesn't just let shit like that go.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 16:23:29 2019 No.6009971
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>>6009954
I never tried blaze but I absolutely loved Gungriffon 1 on saturn. its everything I wanted from a mech game today instead of battletech or fucking shit armored core, gundam type of bullshit.

It was arcade sure but still trying to look believable with weapons, tanks, and overall armoured warfare. Great fucking game.
The intro ignited my military otaku inside me back in the day. I watched it so many times.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 17:04:26 2019 No.6010023

>>6009403
>But I'm sure Eternal will shit on that idea and go for something more boring.
doom technically works more if the story makes less sense/has retcons here and there so 1: it's a sign of it not mattering and 2: could lead to interpretation and a bunch of theories
some people will say a lot of things would benefit from still being mysterious but doom seems like a more noticeable case
we could have gone a partially twisted metal like case of each game trying out different gameplay design and art design ideas, whether or not it'd tie with a specific game in mind or two
the rpg games were almost a merge of classic and doom 3 with some new personalitiy into it
there's probably still a lot you can do with doom as a franchise before you let it rest in peace outside a few occasional cameos in other stuff or re-releases and leave it to fans to keep it "eternal" like they did before 2016 was released

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 17:05:06 2019 No.6010024
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Updated grenades and phosphorous sub-projectiles with new movement code. (means they collide with skies for now, but that's fixable. They're orders of magnitude more resource efficient now).
Rewrote the burning effect to be inventory based, and part of a generic status effect system.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 17:18:43 2019 No.6010047 >>6009403 I kind of prefer the theory that Hell is a constant across all universes and an alternate UAC simply pulled him into their's.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 17:20:39 2019 No.6010051 >>6010047 that could explain why there'd be different versions, wouldn't? i remember hearing that doom 64 was supposed to be about different cultural versions of hell

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 17:28:33 2019 No.6010062 >>6010024 MAGNIFICENT You should probably use Blood's burning effect sprites, as those look more organic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 17:34:21 2019 No.6010069 >>6010062 I would, but I'm not including any sprites/graphics other than TEXTURES composites. I can make a cvar for those palette translation corpses though so something loaded on top of this can add those.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 17:40:05 2019 No.6010078

>>6008781
>>6009403
>>6010047
>>6010051
In Doom'16 we learn that Hell assimilates other worlds into it until they become part of Hell dimension. In Doom 1 they teleport Deimos into Hell.

So it stands to reason that
1) Hell is connected to many different dimensions and
2) Hell expands by conquering other dimensions and adding them to Hell in some way
thus:
Hell is an amalgamation of different dimensions that demons conquered over the countless aeons, and therefore can come in a wide variety of different flavours depending on the world that particular region of hell was part of before.

Since a multitude of worlds does exist in Doom universe, It is also possible that there are many different Earths and different "humanities", some of which were counquered by Demons, some weren't, and Doomguy comes from a different Earth than the one in Doom'16.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 17:53:46 2019 No.6010095

i also like to imagine hell can always resurrect certain demons or even clone them
explains why the cyberdemon can be an enemy type even though he was also a demon lord
and why zombiemen and former humans usually look similar because otherwise human enemies would realistically look more diverse, meaning the edgiest doom could ever be is earth having baby zombies or zombies of different races
for what we know, even animals could be zombies, specially bunnies
or even trees and plants

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 17:56:22 2019 No.6010102 >>6010095 >Treant demons This concept left me blueballed after playing Faith.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 18:36:59 2019 No.6010158

>>6008781
I'd rather not have classic Doomguy suffer the taint of Bethesda and modern Id. Let him rest in peace while an entirely separate Doomslayer shoulders the burden. Besides, Doom2016 implies the armor suit is why the dude can fall ridiculous distances without injury, which we know isn't true of Doomguy.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 18:45:16 2019 No.6010170

>>6010158
Honestly I just don't really think the game works if doomguy isn't the real doomguy. The whole concept of the original silent FPS protag coming back after like twenty years and not taking shit from your ~morally ambiguous mission control~ is so rock solid, if the new doomguy were just some guy we know nothing about it'd be so limp in comparison imo

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 18:49:33 2019 No.6010172

>>6010170
Some people don't like that idea, simple as that. I personally like the idea that this is the same Doomguy we've seen go through Doom 1, 2, TNT, Plutonia, and 64 before staying in hell and killing demons til they drop a roof on him, leaving him trapped and unable to kill. So once he comes back for Doom 4 he's just tired of their bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 18:49:35 2019 No.6010173 >>6010158 Nothing about 2016 warrants an entirely new character "holding the burden" of anything. If they want to make them the same character of old, they'd only be winning.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 18:51:00 2019 No.6010175 Is Doom2016 worth playing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 18:54:16 2019 No.6010182 >>6010175 Sure. It's not the same game,but it's definitely not a bad game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 18:56:32 2019 No.6010186 >>6010173 >they'd only be winning. And they shouldn't, Bethesda especially.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 18:57:14 2019 No.6010189 >>6010186 I don't think Bethesda owns Id, I'm pretty sure Zenimax owns both of them. Which isn't much better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 18:57:34 2019 No.6010191 >>6010175 old game good new game bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 18:59:13 2019 No.6010193 I listen to the Doom OST while I play Quake

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:00:07 2019 No.6010194 >>6010175 It's worth trying out. I personally loved it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:00:38 2019 No.6010196 >>6010186 Whatever you say.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:00:57 2019 No.6010197

>>6010175
>111 hours on steam, 90% of it spent on the campaign, 0% on snapmap

Yeah I would say it is, but I'm biased because I fucking can't hate on it or it hurts my brain. Ultra nightmare is a joke difficulty, but Nightmare is really good and enjoyable. Play it on Nightmare.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:01:39 2019 No.6010202 >>6010175 Yeah. It doesn't have the same replay value as Doom 1 and 2, partially because there's no modding scene and no maps will be made for it, but it's still a good romp

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:01:45 2019 No.6010203 >>6010197 I never tired it because it looks meh. Especially dont like the demons and overall art style.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:03:50 2019 No.6010205 >>6010203 What about the art style makes you dislike it?

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:04:29 2019 No.6010209

>>6010197
Beating it on Ultra Nightmare was pretty fun not gonna lie

>>6010203
Like already mentioned, it's different, but it isn't bad. I think the artstyle looks great.

One thing to remember while playing to get a tiny bit more out of the combat is that you can often cancel reload animations by switching to another weapon. Weapon combos help you kill so much faster. Almost too fast if I'm being honest, but it feels really good.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:06:00 2019 No.6010215

>>6010175
It doesn't play like Doom at all. It locks you in a room, it spawns waves of enemies, and repeat that for 10+ hours. It feels a lot like Painkiller. Also glory kills are fucking cancer and the entire game feels like it was made entirely for consoles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:06:11 2019 No.6010216 >>6010209 I have tried ultra nightmare many times, and there are only so many times I can get sniped out of the air by an enemy that was facing a completely different direction before I put a game down. It was cheap as fuck.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:08:19 2019 No.6010224

>>6010203
They improved the art design big time on the new title it seems, especially the environments.

>>6010175
It doesn't have the same replay value as the first 2 games but once you embrace it as a "just go fast" type game and gain control of the encounters and cheesing the shit out of everything with your weapons, it's pretty fun.

Nightmare skill ensures the monsters deal respectable damage so you're never *too* broken even if you reload cancel all the time. Don't expect the same deal from 1 and 2 on the map design front though, even if the first 4 maps give off the sense of nonlinearity of old the rest of the game doesn't live up to them.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:11:13 2019 No.6010231

>>6010205
Weapons and the sci fi looks are okay. But then again everything looks "okay" today to the point its boring. Titanfall 2 looks amazing but artists never seem to go crazy. Lack of distinctiveness today.
Maybe my expectations were high especially since 3 was also just okay. Eternal also seems to be going for the same greasy looking demons blobs. Those Demons nests look like something out of darksiders.

>>6010215
I expect that from what I see. But I also see bigger maps and exploration.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:12:32 2019 No.6010236

>>6010216
it's not really that cheap, actually the reason I stuck with it was that I don't think I ever really felt like I should've dodged something that hit me. There was a sense of consistency to encounters.

You just want to always be moving, basically. Focus on controlling imps using shit like the remote detonation rocket launcher and the shotgun's grenade, whip out the gauss cannon for big dudes or throw out a quick shotgun grenade/rocket reload cancel. If enemies get into your personal bubble throw out a stun from the plasma rifle to make room. Using glory kills during hectic fights is a GREAT way to take avoidable hits, so don't do it unless the reward outweighs the risk, like if you're very low on health or maybe if a tiny bit more armor would give you rich get richer, which is downright unfair.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:12:43 2019 No.6010237

>>6010215
Nothing about the game really gives off the vibe it was tailored after consoles, it's pretty standard in its approach. Painkiller doesn't play like 2016 at all outside of the fact they're both arena styled shooter romps.

Glory kills I'm mixed on, honestly. But you can opt out of doing them at all.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:14:04 2019 No.6010239

>>6010231
Want to get depressed? Titanfall 2's style is great because the high flying stylish action contrasts super well with the grounded military sci-fi designs. It's a great feel.

The art designer immediately for infinity ward upon hearing they were working on a new modern warfare because he was tired of sci-fi and wanted to work on something more grounded that people could "relate" to better.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:25:04 2019 No.6010253

>>6010237
I also hate the glowing light on the enemies signalling glory kills. From gameplay vids.
Honestly I know its not the same but I felt as empty seeing Doom 2016 as looking as I dont know crysis 2 or 3 footage.
There is this pervasive feeling with games today that I know beforehand it's just going to be mediocre.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:25:30 2019 No.6010256

>>6010175
it has mandatory weapon upgrades and as a result the only weapons that have specific roles are the BFG and the chainsaw
the engine is also a megatextured piece shit that can't handle more than 12 or so demons in the same room at a time, enjoy looking for the last imp hanging somewhere on the cieling so the next wave can spawn

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:25:39 2019 No.6010257 >>6010253 Can't you turn off the glowy light indicators?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:26:19 2019 No.6010259 >>6010257 That would be nice if true. Downloading totally legit copy now right now to test.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:27:57 2019 No.6010264 >>6010257 You can't

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:28:33 2019 No.6010265

>>6010256
>it has mandatory weapon upgrades and as a result the only weapons that have specific roles are the BFG and the chainsaw
I don't see how that makes the other weapons fail at having roles, the upgrades are to improve them at their roles, and you pick and choose which upgrades to prioritize.
There's little sense in spending points on the pistol perhaps, but that's just kind of in line with how the pistol has always been the worst weapon in every Doom game.

>enjoy looking for the last imp hanging somewhere on the cieling so the next wave can spawn
Though I think the heavy reliance of lock-in arenas is a mark against he game, that's not something I've ever had happen to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:29:25 2019 No.6010269 >>6010264 I coulda sworn you could. If my PS4 wasn't packed down in moving boxes right now I'd boot it up and check. I might be thinking of another game though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:31:21 2019 No.6010271 >>6010264 you used to be able to back when the game came out because honestly who played that game more than once

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:32:02 2019 No.6010272 >>6010256 >it has mandatory weapon upgrades and as a result the only weapons that have specific roles are the BFG and the chainsaw ???

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:35:20 2019 No.6010282

>>6010272
ok instead of giving you punchy weapons with different rythms to them and tacticool situational uses they give you a bunch of piss weak guns, too many in my opinion, honestly what's quake's railgun doing in there and why does it take most of the game to get a chaingun, and expect you to figure out roles for them yourself, cause they sure as hell didn't have a clue
so just use whatever you have ammo for, doesn't matter, even the boomstick is underwhelming

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:37:59 2019 No.6010287 How does Doom 64 work with losing weapons on death? I lose the unmaker permanently? Until the one of a handful of places I can pick it up?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:39:13 2019 No.6010290 >>6010282 The chaingun isn't even worth using over any other automatic weapon. Doesn't seem like they're rectifying the weapon problems in Eternal, either.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:44:21 2019 No.6010301 >>6010287 You were supposed to use memory card saves originally, I think, or passwords, which might account for that (I don't know that for sure).

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:46:39 2019 No.6010304 >>6010287 >>6010301 smooth doom with doom 64 weapons enabled and a decent custom textures wad beats anything doom 64 has to offer

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:59:52 2019 No.6010332 >>6010264 >>6010271 You absolutely still can.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 20:01:44 2019 No.6010337 >>6010290 Except the chaingun is actually a people mower this go around and the plasma rifle isn't insulting weak any longer. Both shotguns have pretty good range now also. t. played at PAX

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 20:02:11 2019 No.6010338

>>6010282
i dunno about that man
>pistol
actually worthless, a lot like old doom
>shotgun
your main skirmishing weapon for the early game, the grenade launcher is the third best single shot weapon in the game and the primary fire is good for combos as a pseudo-melee attack to finish off enemies up close after peppering them with fire on the approach. primary fire loses relevance as you go.
>HAR
workhorse. for early mid game it's your designated long range fodder clearing gun, micro missiles give it some good fire-and-forget burst damage to throw out as you're switching between weapons.
>plasma rifle
early game high dps high ammo drain, alt fires are both different variations on making space around you with stun being a panic button that does no damage but will stop anything in its tracks and heat blast having extremely high AOE damage that will pulp most smaller mobs immediately
>rocket launcher
much like continuous doom, it does almost everything. great for clearing individual weaker mobs with one clean shot, gets better at this with remote detonation, or you can make it a bit better at burst damage with the burst lock-on.
>super shotgun
outrageously high close range damage especially with the double shot, what more is there to say?
>chaingun
great consistent medium range damage. More of a power weapon than it was in old doom. Mobile sentry turns it into a lawnmower, giving it ridiculously high damage at the cost of making you a slower target- great to whip out when you have a good position with the drawback of high ammo drain.
>gauss cannon
big boy power weapon, as the BFG now has its own ammo it kind of takes the place of the doom 1 BFG in that it's a ridiculously potent weapon that makes you feel weird about using the plasma gun anymore. Good at anything. Deleting distant targets, heaping on heavy damage in a combo, deleting a squishy target anywhere on screen reliably, and siege mode actually admittedly completely breaks the game I make no excuses

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 20:04:05 2019 No.6010342 >>6010271 Yep, you've cracked the code, anon. You're the only person who bought the game since it released.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 20:55:16 2019 No.6010417 >>6010338 Spot on. The rocket launcher is good as is, but becomes excellent with either upgrade. I'll argue that you really want the upgrades as the difficulty progresses in the game.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 21:07:14 2019 No.6010427
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>>6010338
>HAR
idk why but that reminds me how for some god forsaken reason, the crosshairs are bound to the fov so the higher it is, the smaller they get. This makes the HAR almost impossible to use without the missiles or scope cus the crosshair on higher fovs is practically nonexistent. Why the hell didn't make it two bold while recital like almost every other weapon, or at least do SOMETHING to have it stand out more?

Or maybe N O T bind the crosshairs to the damn fov?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 21:27:25 2019 No.6010448 is Hard the definitive way to play Quake? It was fun at first but the difficulty spikes eventually and I'm not sure if I should lower it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 21:29:35 2019 No.6010449 >>6010448 I played on nightmare. Enter rooms cautiously and don't be afraid to back out and fight from a room's entrance. Can't HUH your way around shamblers and vores.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 21:44:17 2019 No.6010471 >>6010448 Yes. Don't be a pussy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 21:51:56 2019 No.6010482 >>6010448 Hard is for big boys, but remember you can go back to difficulty selection between episodes if it's getting to be too much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 22:08:02 2019 No.6010501 >>6009552 How'd you get dynamic lighting on those textures and lights posts also sauce on that map

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 22:45:06 2019 No.6010558 File: 295 KB, 600x497, 1566922592636.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >not one but TWO unannounced FPS by 3D Realms (published) in the works

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 22:49:29 2019 No.6010563 File: 753 KB, 756x747, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] it begins

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 23:05:21 2019 No.6010584 >>6010448 Playing Easy, Medium, and Hard, in succession, I found that I enjoyed Hard the most. You do you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 23:13:58 2019 No.6010609 >>6010584 hard is fun but I get annihilated by scramblers and later on they start showing up a ton.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 23:15:00 2019 No.6010613 >>6010609 >scramblers before anyone corrects me I meant shamblers

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 23:15:01 2019 No.6010614 >>6010563 Hm. Interesting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 23:21:45 2019 No.6010631 Who the fuck played through Uncle Reggie's Basement and said "yeah, this is a good enough map for our community wad"?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 23:24:27 2019 No.6010636 Not retro but the thread is dying and it's an old school shooter and I just wanna say I've been playing Painkiller Black Edition and it's fucking solid

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 23:25:00 2019 No.6010640 >>6010636 Painkiller's pretty cool, features one of the best starting weapons I've seen in an FPS game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 23:26:23 2019 No.6010643 >>6010563 MMMMMMM

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 23:30:46 2019 No.6010648 >>6010636 Don't bother with the sequel, it fucking sucks.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 23:31:33 2019 No.6010652
File: 244 KB, 1288x966, timbler.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>6010609
>>6010613
Quick tips on Timblers:
1) They take half damage from explosives.
2) Thus they're best suitable for nails and lightning if you can, due to their DPS.
3) The Super Shotgun is surprisingly viable if you get close enough to have them try to engage you in melee, and you bait and dodge so they whiff their swing, pounding shell after shell, made easier by a good corner or pillar, in case they start zapping again.

Also, Quad Damage is always useful, obviously.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 23:33:02 2019 No.6010657 >>6010652 Why the fuck is shambler in timbs a meme now? Not even mad, just confused

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 23:33:54 2019 No.6010659 >>6010558 >nu-wang FFS

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 23:35:43 2019 No.6010663 >>6010657 I think a guy just thought about a silly pun, envisioned it, thought it was funny, and it just snowballed from there out of absurdity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 00:03:14 2019 No.6010685 File: 1.46 MB, 1536x655, 1569868521884.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying my best to make some cave lava lake thingy here pls don't bully

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 00:26:38 2019 No.6010707 >>6010563 Sexbots soon, guys.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 01:32:56 2019 No.6010809 >>6010685 u smell

Anonymous Thu Nov 14 01:41:24 2019 No.6010817

>>6007245
It does not matter if it's drawn with polygons or not.
3D means "three dimensions". Game allows you to move in 3 dimensions, game shows you 3 dimensions, it's 3D.
Otherwise you'd have to call Wing Commander and other early sprite based space sims "2.5D", since they showed 3D with scaling and panning of a 2D plane, even if they allowed you all 6 DOF of movement.
"not drawn with polygons" argument is completely bogus. You can for example have voxel engine that calculates 3D space but transforms voxel entities into sprites before drawing, and it would NOT be 3D by your definition.

In any case, my point is that adding various clauses, "ackchuallys" and exceptions on top of "3D means three dimensions" is idiocy and unnecessary complication of what should be a simple issue of:
1) How many dimensions the game shows
2) In how many dimensions the game allows to operate entities (player and enemies for example).
If both are "3" then its 3D. If both are 2 then its 2D. If one 2 while other is 3, then 2.5D.

>>6007249
Wizardry-likes are 2.5D because third dimension, while shown (albeit primitively) is not present in actual gameplay, you cant jump or visually elevate yourself above the surface. The floor transit simply transport you into another flat area with a very clear transition - there would be no functional difference if it was just teleportation. Same reason Wolfenstein is 2.5D, really.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 01:51:12 2019 No.6010832 >>6010809 >>6010685 ...like strawberries, anon! Good work!

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 02:12:18 2019 No.6010848 >>6010685 You should decorate those walls (both cave and castle) - they look barren.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 03:15:58 2019 No.6010906 >>6009502 Yeah, KDIZD's detailing is so overdone, that it doesn't even look good. Just looks like a cluttered mess of sector spam, which unfortunately wasnt uncommon with mid-late 00's era ZDoom mapping.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 03:22:37 2019 No.6010917 New thread, now with 100% less [Embed]. >>6010915 >>6010915 >>6010915

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 06:12:39 2019 No.6011057 >>6010636 Better than nu-doom, always has been

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 07:17:58 2019 No.6011112 >>6007120 This person is a lunatic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 07:19:29 2019 No.6011113 >>6010659 I love Nu-Wang.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 11:35:07 2019 No.6011428 >>6011057 Nudoom Is unironically a better arena shooter than SS and PK combined. But not in your tiny mind, apparently.

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