/CRT/ Thread - Sega Edition

[Anonymous No.5986805]

Previous thread: >>5960031
>Try to keep things /vr/ related: Focus should be on 5th Gen (+Dreamcast) games on back. Slight off topic is fine so long as it's related to CRTs, such as later 16:9 models, HD models, etc. Systems with backwards compatibility are also safe territory, as are re-releases on newer hardware. PC CRTs are also welcome and appreciated.
>Produce OC! Bust out your camera and take photos of your CRTs displaying all sorts of games, featuring all sorts of tubes, using all sorts of signals. Getting good shots can be hard, but if you take enough, at least a few will turn out alright. Tips'n'Tricks™ coming soon™.
>Try and give as much information as possible when asking for info on a specific set, or troubleshooting an issue to expedite and help you may receive. As always, Google is your friend and we are your friends with benefits. Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either; Seriously, there's literally 6 years of backlog at this point.
>Share appreciation for other's choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. Always remember to show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

Limited discussion of video processing and scaling devices is alright, but remember to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories.

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[Anonymous No.5986812]

>>5986789
>Sony audio sucks though.
Not really, but it's nothing special.

[Anonymous No.5986879]

>>5986832
Not too bad. Though I never bothered with RGB/Component on my Famicom since it doesn't even generate it internally.
>stereo
Why, though. Absolutely no one ever composed NES music expecting anyone to hear it over more than one channel.

[Anonymous No.5986924]

jvc a best

[Anonymous No.5986930]

>>5986767
I haven never spent more than 20 dollars on a CRT and you shouldnt either

[Anonymous No.5986946]

[Anonymous No.5987027]

What does /crt/ think of emulating games on a CRT?
Pic related is Trials of Mana emulated on Higan (Accuracy) Retroarch core with a HDMI to composite converter.

[Anonymous No.5987049]

>>5986924
Based and Victor-pilled.

[Anonymous No.5987057]

>>5987027
Emulators are not accurate, but what really matters is enjoying video games.

[Anonymous No.5987064]

>>5987027
it's what I do for the most part but not the same way as you. those cheap converters aren't the best solution, but they're also not the worst. they'll always output 480i so you're not really seeing it the way it should be. a better solution is to use a wii which also makes better signal quality easier to achieve.

[Anonymous No.5987110]

>>5987027
What’s it matter what someone else thinks? Are you incapable of forming your own thoughts?

[Anonymous No.5987118]

I can't believe people are interested in old CRTs. I have 3 in a basement somewhere, 2 Sanyos and 1 Panasonic. Is it worth the time to track them down, move them, clean them up, and try to sell them? I think I know where the remote is for at least one.

[Anonymous No.5987130]

>>5987110
not him but sometimes when you ask for opinions like this you can find out ways to optimize your setup in some way which you might not think of or know about on your own.

[Anonymous No.5987161]

>>5987118
The bandwagonners are only interested in trinitrons.

[Anonymous No.5987187]

>>5987110
>"I never inquire about others opinions because I am a free thinker! Look at me, aren't I so special?"
Good for you faggot, I just wanted to see what others thought about it, and more specifically, what were the objective downsides and possible upsides to it.

>>5987064
I like using PC specifically for the wide array of options I have compared to if I emulated on Wii for instance. On PC I can use whatever controller I want, whether it's a controller rip-off of the system i'm emulating, or a more comfortable modern controller as well as tons of emulator specific options.

[Anonymous No.5987210]

>>5987187
The advantage of the wii is clean 240p output

[Anonymous No.5987216]

>>5987187
you should change how you're getting the signal to the tv if you're going to use a pc. what's your gpu?

[Anonymous No.5987247]

>>5987210
>badly stretched 240p output with subsampled chroma
ftfy

[Anonymous No.5987289]

>>5987216
I have an AMD R9 380 right now.

[Anonymous No.5987316]

>>5987118
No, they are worth $20 max for a large one with component. Why not hook an NES to one and enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.5987352]

>>5987289
Use CRT_Emudriver and a VGA to RGB cable + a RGB-to-Component converter to get the best image quality possible out of your TV

[Anonymous No.5987379]

>>5987247
Wiitards btfo

[Anonymous No.5987948]

>>5987352
>VGA to RGB cable


wat?

[Anonymous No.5987973]

>>5987948
SCART I mean

[Anonymous No.5987974]

>>5986946
Thanks for spoilering this time
>>5987027
It's OK I guess, but I prefer real hardware.
>HDMI to composite
Never mind; go kill yourself.
>>5987247
Nothing wrong with YPbPr from a wii, other than it being a tiny bit softer than a GC with component cable.

[Anonymous No.5987993]

>>5987974
>Nothing wrong with YPbPr from a wii, other than it being a tiny bit softer than a GC with component cable.
There's plenty wrong with it. The Wii's strength is being easy and cheap to set up, not its video quality. If you're using a low-end consumer TV you might not notice how bad it is, though.

[Anonymous No.5988069]

>>5988032
>translation: "It's not direct RGB and therefore trash" (despite being capable of displaying at full quality in low horizontal resolutions)
Bad translation. I have no problem with YPbPr, and even chroma subsampling isn't such a big deal for later 3D games (like GameCube and Wii games for instance). But for pixel art it is a problem, yes. It's easily visible in the picture you posted.
>Can't argue with that one. But that in no way makes it terrible on its own.
I didn't say it was terrible. I said it has issues and a PC would be better, which is objectively and demonstrably true.
>It's a lot sharper than a non-1chip snes. And sharper than NES composite.
How impressive.
>Translation: "I'm better because I jumped through more hoops"
I don't even emulate, I have real consoles. But if you're going to emulate, some solutions are better than others. A Wii is an okay beginner's/retard's choice because it's easy to set up, but if you care about video quality (or want up-to-date emulators and runahead), use a PC instead.

[Anonymous No.5988007]

>>5987993
I am using an RGB capable 750TVL monitor.
(this is not my wii on it though)
You might have to specify what's actually wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.5988012]

>>5988007
Chroma subsampling, poor scaling (either the aspect ratio will be off or you have to deal with non-integer horizontal scaling), and general softness. You can get much better results with a PC outputting 240p, it just takes more effort.

[Anonymous No.5988019]

>>5987993
>There's plenty wrong with it. The Wii's strength is being easy and cheap to set up, not its video quality. If you're using a low-end consumer TV you might not notice how bad it is, though.

Get the hell out of here with this elitist bullshit you just pulled out your ass.

[Anonymous No.5988025]

nothing wrong with the wii, I mean is not 100% perfect but is very easy to set up.

[Anonymous No.5988115]

>>5988069
Uh huh. And pray tell, what does chroma subsampling look like? And how does it differ from how it "looks" in s-video which also uses it during encoding?

[Anonymous No.5988117]

>>5988115
P.S.
I can't think of a single way of encoding YPbPr that doesn't involve chroma subsampling in some form.

[Anonymous No.5988032]

>>5988012
>chroma subsampling
translation: "It's not direct RGB and therefore trash" (despite being capable of displaying at full quality in low horizontal resolutions)
>poor scaling
translation: "The pixel clock isn't the same as on some old systems"
Can't argue with that one. But that in no way makes it terrible on its own.
>general softness
It's a lot sharper than a non-1chip snes. And sharper than NES composite.
>You can get much better results with a PC
Translation: "I'm better because I jumped through more hoops"

Not my pic. From some long bygone CRT thread.

[Anonymous No.5988160]

>>5988115
It manifests as colors "bleeding" into each other, especially visible in areas of high chroma contrast, such as the yellow/green tiles in the picture. S-Video has a similar effect, but significantly worse. Technically it's not accurate to refer to what S-Video does as subsampling, because that term only really applies to digital processes, however S-Video does have very limited chroma bandwidth compared to its luma bandwidth.
>>5988117
YPbPr is just a transformation matrix away from RGB. There's no reduction in bandwidth for the color difference channels. In theory, RGB->YPbPr->RGB can be a completely lossless transform (and even in practice, good equipment can get pretty damn close).

[Anonymous No.5988182]

>>5988160
…That's not visible here.
And S-video does subsample chroma in that it doesn't have chromaticity resolution equal to its potential luminance resolution. During the encoding process, some information is lost, thus subsampling.

[Anonymous No.5988215]

>>5988182
>…That's not visible here.
It sure is. The green is bleeding into the yellow. I noticed it right away, but then I do have a trained eye for that sort of thing.
>And S-video does subsample chroma in that it doesn't have chromaticity resolution equal to its potential luminance resolution. During the encoding process, some information is lost, thus subsampling.
There's no sampling involved in S-Video encoding, thus no subsampling. The loss of bandwidth is due to combining the color difference signals and modulating them into a subcarrier. But that's just semantics.

[Anonymous No.5988308]

stfu faggots

[Anonymous No.5988416]

>>5988019
I'm random person jumping in here but if you compare Wii component emulating SNES to the real deal with RGB, the Wii comes out slightly stretched and slightly too dark
so it is true, you can run the test in real time if your PVM has two RGB/COMP inputs like the medical ones do

[Anonymous No.5988434]

>>5988215
Ah, I see it now.
Very faint, but I see it. My apologies.
Funny, never noticed that before. Good eye.
I hold that due to the analogue nature of S-Video, perfectly modulating and decoding the chroma signal is impossible and thus there is less chrominance information than luminance.

And the Wii still is a hell of a lot simpler than most things, especially for a brainlet who is afraid to make his own video cables. But I concede, you are correct on the subsampling problem. Just tried it on my own Wii to make sure.

>>5988416
Wii VC will be too dark but not necessarily other emulators.
Which SNES revision? 1chips and minis are brighter than prior revisions.

[Anonymous No.5988465]

>>5988434
>Which SNES revision?
Regular SNES with two rubber feet. The Wii was running Snes9x.
There was a definite difference when I A/B switched them.

[Anonymous No.5988594]

>>5988465
I'd believe that.
BTW the 1chip snes also has two rubber feet.
Also it shouldn't be anything unfixable via contrast/brightness dials in this case.

[Anonymous No.5989364]

Is it safe to keep using my pvm 2530 even though it’s dusty grimy inside and kinda smells when It’s turned on? Waiting for a friend to help me move it around next week but I want to keep using it. I have used it for a year and it’s always been like this but never any problems.

[Anonymous No.5989374]

>>5989364
should be fine. dust isn't usually a big issue, it just makes things hotter by insulating them.

[Anonymous No.5989570]

>>5989364
Consider dusting it with compressed air or something after removing the rear casing.
Just don't touch stuff unless you know what you're doing.

[Anonymous No.5989572]

>>5987057
>emulators are not accurate
t. never used an emulators nor knows anything about them

[Anonymous No.5989584]

>>5989572
Some are, some aren't.
It also depends how picky you are.
It's usually OK to use an emulator, but you need really beefy hardware to properly emulate Pokémon Snap on a PC since the only emulator that apparently works with it is the one Nintendo wrote for the Wii (so it requires emulating a Wii emulating Pokémon Snap).
I might remember hearing about someone fixing this, but only in a pure-CPU plugin that's pretty worthless for most computers.
And GlideN64 mostly works, but you can either have a red dot or score points in the review. Not both.
Other consoles? Yeah, some emulators are really good.

[Anonymous No.5989637]

>>5989584
good thing n64 is hardly worth playing.

[Anonymous No.5989651]

n64 is overrated

[Anonymous No.5989881]

>>5989637
>>5989651

[Anonymous No.5989997]

It'll probably shorten its lifespan, by how much is anybody's guess.

[Anonymous No.5990106]

>>5988594
(and interestingly but unrelatedly, the launch PSX is the only kind I've found with four felt pad feet instead of two felt and two plastic.)
>>5989637
>>5989651
Kek. But that doesn't make the point about emulation not necessarily being good any less valid.

[Anonymous No.5990397]

>>5987118
Nah the only ones people willing to travel and pay for are Professional Monitors or Sony Trinitons. Wega Trinitons are still just consumer tier, but people associate any Sony crt as being some sort of high quality grail when in reality it's only their PVM/BVM line. Don't just toss them though. List them as free pickup on Craigslist for a six-pack of beer.

[Anonymous No.5990408]

>>5989364
The dust will make the components inside run hotter and thus degrade faster. Consider removing the casing and blowing the excess dust with compressed air, at least to the point of removing the smell. But don't get yourself killed by wiping shit down if you don't know what you're doing.

[Anonymous No.5990657]

[Anonymous No.5990671]

>>5990657
Whoops. Underexposed.

[Anonymous No.5990684]

free20l5cunt can't live without his /crt/ fame, despite him saying otherwise countless times.

[Anonymous No.5990690]

>>5990684
Point him out for me, if you would.
You talking about >>5990397?

[Free 20L5 Guy No.5990725]

>>5990684
>>5990690
Hi there, you summoned me?
I'm actually pretty surprised that I'm not alone about the AG monitors anymore, but I'm pretty sure any '''fame''' evaporated around four years ago or so.

My posts (IIRC):
>>5986805
>>5986812
>>5986879
>>5987974 (yeah I was the idiot who hadn't noticed wii subsampling)
-- snip --
>>5988434 (end of that stupidity)
>>5988594
>>5989584
>>5990106
>>5990657
>>5990671

BTW, notice how I'm still one of only TWO people in this thread who's actually posted a picture of their CRT, two days into the thread.
I am still opinionated, but did _not_ write any of these because I've decided talking about trinitrons amounts to more pointless shitposting and it's not worth the time. I apologise again for the wii stuff, but now I know better.

[Anonymous No.5990734]

>>5987027
It's a nice option if your monitor has a superbright mode so you can do 3840×240 @120Hz with black frame insertion.
My CRT is not bright enough so BFI or scanlines are not an option. I just use it at 480p and learned to accept a bit of pixellation, that is nowhere near close to what an LCD does to the poor retro games. Plus I get crytal clear motion.
Autists are gonna chimp out but 480p and x2 internal resolution looks absolutely beauriful For PS1 and other 3D games. And this is coming from soneone who played on original hardware and composite tv. I also own a PVMeme and it's a fucking pain in the ass to make it work with a PC. The only thing I can connect it to is my PS2 and I still prefer the way emulator looks with the tvout shader to correct the colors.

[Anonymous No.5990795]

>>5990690
you have your answer below lol

[Anonymous No.5990838]

>>5986812
>Sony audio sucks though.
Depends what you get. If you nab the standard, off-the-shelf consumer shit, then yes, but back in the 70s and 80s, Sony dabbled in some high-end stuff that can pump out some stellar sound, and it goes for comparatively cheap because audiophiles turn up their noses at Sony because they'd rather have a Nikko or Marantz badge on their gear. When you do some research, almost every brand has a few diamonds in the rough, regardless of their overall reputation.

[Anonymous No.5990897]

>>5990838
Sony APM speakers kick ass

[Anonymous No.5990904]

>>5990838
>tfw TA-N88 with busted power supply

http://www.thevintageknob.org/sony-TA-N88B.html

[Anonymous No.5990907]

>>5990897
Yeah I've got some of those. APM-22ES MKII and APM-20ES.

They're great while the woofer surrounds last. Otherwise bit of a pain in the arse to get mended.

[Anonymous No.5990909]

Sony TV speakers are generally better than their counterparts, especially the ones with subwoofers. Picture quality is highly overrated on their TVs though.

[Anonymous No.5990916]

>>5990907
Have you repaired that before? What did you do? I'm facing the same issue and I might just homebrew my own surrounds because I can't seem to find replacement parts anywhere

[Anonymous No.5990920]

>>5990897
>>5990907
Man, I almost scored a pair of these for dirt cheap. Some dude on ebay had them listed for 40 bucks, with with the wrong model number on the auction so nobody else had nabbed them yet. He ended up only sending me one speaker, and so poorly packed that it was practically destroyed in shipping. I tried to see if I could get him to send me the other since he was being a shitbag liar, and he kept trying to get me to paypal him money outside of ebay, so I just reported him and got a refund. Shame, it was a horrible waste of a speaker that had been in perfect condition before he shipped it.

>>5990909
>Picture quality is highly overrated on their TVs though.
Eh. I don't see sony being "overrated" nowadays. People just mention their name a lot because a Trinitron is a very safe bet if you're looking for a CRT. There were tons of them and they were usually on par or better, at least compared to shit like Magnavox or Zenith. It would be like calling a Honda Accord "overrated". The rule should be to keep an eye out for a trinitron because it'll probably be solid, but don't let it dissuade you from picking up something else with a better picture if you find it.

CRT picture is highly subjective now, anyway. Even a garbage RCA can have better picture quality than the nicest Sony or Panasonic if they've seen too much wear. Testing stuff before you buy is always more important than the badge on the front of the set.

>>5990916
Different anon, but I swear I've seen aftermarket replacement kits for those on ebay.

[Free 20L5 Guy No.5990925]

>>5990916
I used to work in a shop that repairs speakers (re-surrounding, replacing cones, coils, etc).

That surround shape looks unusual, I'm not sure you'll have much luck finding replacements… But if you can find replacements, though, then taking the old one off can be as easy as brushing MEK (methyl ethyl ketone) on the old surround where it meets the cone. Try not to let it run down the cone itself because it can leave a 'water stain.' Let it sit for a few minutes, and then try to peel. It should take very little force; if you find yourself exerting force you should apply another layer of MEK. Do it in a well ventilated area and remember that MEK vapor is heavier than air.

I like putting a speaker on a platter/turntable once the glue is dissolved, and using a dull butter knife to peel it.

An adhesive like rubber cement should be fine to hold it back together afterwards; try to keep pressure on it while it dries.

>>5990920
AG's are fine. They just aren't THAT much of an upgrade and they can have a different feel than some other phosphor patterns.

[Anonymous No.5990932]

>>5990925
Meant to quote >>5990909 for that second part
This anon gets it >>5990920

[Anonymous No.5991019]

>>5990925
>AG's are fine. They just aren't THAT much of an upgrade and they can have a different feel than some other phosphor patterns.
for low res content I wouldn't even call them an upgrade. We're not going out to the store and buying brand new tubes, so the whole brightness thing is a moot point most of the time since you can find a beat to shit sony and then find a fresh toshiba and the toshiba will be brighter. and they're not any sharper in my experience. between a good shadowmask and aperture grille I'd say it's down to preference and that neither is really objectively better.

[Anonymous No.5991131]

>>5991019
Yeah that's also part of what I'm trying to say, but a new sony still wouldn't be better in any case than a new <non-sony>.
>>5990725
Cleaner picture after viewing on my non-laptop LCD

[Anonymous No.5991138]

>>5991131
you really like boring jrpgs don't you

[Anonymous No.5991140]

>>5991131
(It would not necessarily be better, I mean to say)
It was a raw shoot, so I really should have done the evaluation on my decent monitor
>>5991138
You really like shmups that get boring after 5 minutes don't you

[Anonymous No.5991143]

>>5991140
not particularly, no. for retro I mostly play sidescrolling platformers but I like racing games too. Indianapolis 500: the simulation is one of my favourite dos games, it's really impressive how realistic it is for the era.

[Anonymous No.5991151]

>>5991143
To its credit, the only atari 2600 game I can enjoy for a full five minutes is River Raid.
RC Pro Am will always hold a special place in my heart, too. And Phantasy Star II kind of sucks. The first is great, though. So is the fourth.

[Anonymous No.5991152]

>>5991151
Single player, I should say.
I can have fun playing Combat for ages.

[Anonymous No.5991160]

>>5991131
what camera?

[Anonymous No.5991183]

>>5991160
Nikon D40, with an 18-55mm kit zoom lens. Is kind of meh unless I use it on a tripod, and rather low-res. But at lower ISO it can be fantastic.
It'd also help for me to clean the sensor, of course. It's needed it for a while.
I often use my Pixel 2 instead.

[Anonymous No.5991189]

>>5991183
Same pic with much less aggressive denoising

[Anonymous No.5991194]

>>5991183
>>5991189
thanks, looks great.

[Anonymous No.5991259]

>>5990725
Is that an old pic or did you rearrange it recently? I swear I saw that same setup recently but with the Panasonic on a top shelf over the desk.

[Anonymous No.5991301]

Curved glass or flat glass?

[Anonymous No.5991305]

Curved

[Anonymous No.5991467]

>>5991301
depends on how good the flat tube is and if it's a tv or pc monitor. a good flat screen monitor is going to have negligible distortion compared to a flatscreen tv. and smaller tvs have very little distortion as well.

[Anonymous No.5991524]

>>5991301
Flat if the geometry is good.

[Anonymous No.5991807]

How do you guys think this would look on a crt?

https://youtu.be/e2ZRSwul7cE

[Anonymous No.5992051]

>>5991301
Curved 100%

[Anonymous No.5992062]

>>5991524
But anon, that's an oxymoron

[Anonymous No.5992112]

>>5991259
>Is that an old pic or did you rearrange it recently?
Just moved it today. I was able to move it down a shelf by pushing the entire desk forward and adding more rubber feet so it'd stick off the back a little.
You may have seen it on a /g/ battlestations thread, too.
Is that a CPD-100SF on the far right? And a 20L5? Or 14L5?
…I have had both of those (20L5 and 100SF) -_-
Got rid of the 100SF somewhat recently since my Amiga's monitor (Commodore 1942) does both 15.6khz and 31khz and I don't really have the space for both of them.
I like your setup btw. I'd just be worried about the degaussing of that rotated monitor wiping whatever's in that computer's floppy drive (if that is a floppy drive on the right hand side).
>>5991301
Curved; no contest. even if a flat one with great geometry exists, I like the curved screen aesthetically.

[Anonymous No.5992124]

>>5992112
wow you had a 20l5? no way! tell me more!

[Anonymous No.5992127]

>>5992124
No

[Anonymous No.5992291]

>>5992112
wyatt, you pizza hut working faggot, why did you get rid of your 20l5?

[Anonymous No.5992307]

>>5991259
did you get that monitor on the right from wyatt?

[Anonymous No.5992308]

>>5992112
That’s a CPD-15SF1 on the far right. The more /vr/-relevant tubes are a KX-14CP1, a 14L5 in TATE, and a 20L5, yes.

[Anonymous No.5992323]

>>5992308
I think you replied to the wrong person, retard

[Anonymous No.5992327]

>>5992323
I replied to the person I intended to. To answer your own question, I have no idea who “wyatt” is so it’s very doubtful.

[Anonymous No.5992334]

>>5992327
shut up, idiot

[Anonymous No.5992401]

Can anyone ID this crt? Thx

[Anonymous No.5992425]

I've got some bookshelf speakers that unfouranetnly need to be placed in very very close proximity to my crt's. Literally right on top, in fact. what kind of sheilding or spacing should I put inbetween the speakers and the top of the tv so the magnets in the speaker dont fuck with the tube?

[Anonymous No.5992578]

So does this really display a digital signal or does it get a digital signal which it converts to analog?

[Anonymous No.5992580]

>>5992578
It converts a digital signal into an analog one.

[Anonymous No.5992725]

>>5986805
What mid 90s to early 2000s models are at least somewhat comparable to a trinitron? I'm on the hunt for a decent crt (been using a doodoo-tier emerson that lacks component inputs after dropping my trinitron) but my area is kind of dry. I don't want to miss anything for lack of knowledge.

[Anonymous No.5992727]

>>5992580
Whats the point of it being digital than? Aren't component ports supposed to support both analog and digital versions of component?

[Anonymous No.5992730]

>>5992725

I don't think they're very common but Mitsubishi is well regarded as is JVC i think

[Anonymous No.5992736]

>>5992112
Comfy setup, but from the picture it seems like it'd be uncomfortable to look up at that small display.

[Anonymous No.5992737]

>>5991301
Flat if you're also playing 6th gen/wii.

[Anonymous No.5992756]

>>5992727
>Whats the point of it being digital than?
Save Nintendo $1 on a video DAC. Or maybe Nintendo had plans for some peripheral that used the port but these plans were dropped. Who knows.

>Aren't component ports supposed to support both analog and digital versions of component?
No. Component is analog.

[Anonymous No.5992806]

>>5992756
>Or maybe Nintendo had plans for some peripheral that used the port but these plans were dropped.

Yep. 3D screen was in development. Also it covers you if a new digital standard comes along.

[Anonymous No.5992868]

>>5992756
So why does it say Digital AV than?

Also than whats the difference between YPbPr and YCbCr?

[Anonymous No.5992890]

>>5992868
>So why does it say Digital AV than?
Because the signals at the port are digital. The video DAC and encoder is inside the cable unlike the PS2 and Xbox that have the DAC and encoder on the board and the component cable is just a cable.

>Also than whats the difference between YPbPr and YCbCr?
YPbPr is for analog video and YCbCr for digital. Some people use YCbCr for both.

[Anonymous No.5993012]

>>5992756
>>5992868
During the sixth gen, there was a Japanese-only cable standard called D-terminal, which was a digital signal. That’s what the port was for. It was phased out when HDMI became the universal standard. Also not retro.

[Anonymous No.5993154]

>>5992112
Damn this is a godawful setup. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

[Anonymous No.5993334]

>>5993012
D-terminal is not digital. It's analog YPbPr, just with a different connector. And the only reason people still use GameCubes is for Game Boy games, so it's still retro.

[Anonymous No.5993479]

Anyone recognizes this model?

[Anonymous No.5993557]

>>5993479
Some variant of the KV-27TS20 by the look of it. In the future you should specify a region if you want help identifying a set.

[Anonymous No.5993568]

>>5993557
Thank you, I'm sorry. Got this photo from a marketplace in Northern Mexico.

[Anonymous No.5993572]

>>5993568
See that really helps cause sometimes Mexico got different models than the rest of North America. I can't really tell you much more than that it'll be a composite/RF set with good sound for the era and some bells and whistles which are now completely useless. Like any 27" composite trinitron of the era it will look perfectly fine for ye olden game.

[Anonymous No.5993636]

My Ikegami HTM1505R randomly shit the bed. It powers on and degausses but the tube itself doesn't turn on. Any ideas before I try to track down a repair place?

[Anonymous No.5994113]

>>5993636
slap it

[Anonymous No.5994159]

>>5992291
I didn't get rid of it, re-read the post. I got rid of the 100SF.
Hi there.
>>5992327
He's talking about me.
>>5992308
I'll say again, love your collection.
>>5992401
It's a blur
>>5992578
It's a DAC
>>5992730
Yeah JVC was owned by Matsushita at the time; Panasonic monitors are frequently similar or the same.
People love the big mitsubishi ones. I've not had the pleasure to use one unfortunately.
>>5992736
It was lowered later; see >>5991131
But it wasn't bad at all. My eyes are still pretty good, and because my bed is behind the desk a little ways it was simple to just lie down on it and prop my head up.
>>5993154
I'm sorry you feel that way.
>>5993479
It's a pretty TV, probably what >>5993557 said.
>>5993636
Consider checking for cracks in the solder around the neckboard. Look for burned traces. Replace the horizontal output transistor.
Potentially you could try >>5994113 as a temporary fix but don't overdo it. And it'll only get worse, even if it does temporarily work.
>obligatory "replace capacitors" suggestion
Hope you can get it fixed; those are nice sets usually.

[Anonymous No.5994172]

>>5993012
>During the sixth gen, there was a Japanese-only cable standard called D-terminal, which was a digital signal.

[Anonymous No.5994184]

>>5994159
Two things missing from this photo...what was it again...

[Anonymous No.5994249]

>>5994184
No idea, you tell me.

[Anonymous No.5994272]

>>5994159
hi

[Anonymous No.5994941]

>>5994159
>>5994113
Percussive maintenance should never be used as a fix, only a means of diagnosis.

[Anonymous No.5995104]

>>5994249
>owning things that you don't and will never use
What's the point?

[Anonymous No.5995236]

>>5993479
KV-27TS20 I own this exam tv but its black

[Anonymous No.5995334]

>>5993479
>sony
It's shit. It's a shit model. You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.5995336]

>>5995334
>It's shit
Explain

[Anonymous No.5995338]

>>5995336
Sony = shit.

This concludes my explanation.

[Anonymous No.5995339]

>>5995104
I use it now. Most of that stuff can be seen in the other pics on this thread.
>>5995336
>>5995338
>>5995334
Don't feed the trolls

[Anonymous No.5995342]

>>5995339
ok, sorry

[Anonymous No.5995350]

>>5987027
Use a Wii if you wanna emulate on a Crt

[Anonymous No.5995352]

>>5995104
I own a bunch of CRTs that I don't use, just VGA monitors. The reason I have them is because I know none of them will last forever and they're really hard to find these days. So when one eventually dies I'll have another to use in its place.

[Anonymous No.5995369]

>>5987027
Does downscaling HDMI look good? And is it displaying at 240p proper or is it 480i?

[Anonymous No.5995464]

>>5991301
I've only had luck with flat models, managed to find a big curved model in a thrift store once for $15 but the picture quality on it was just gone. I'd love a good curved one if I can find it but I'm satisfied with my flatscreen

[Anonymous No.5995609]

Protip: use RVL-CPU-60 or RVK-* Wiis.

[Anonymous No.5996557]

>>5995352
based

[Anonymous No.5996586]

>>5994159
I like your tables/stands, where'd you get them? Do you just use the mono speakers in your 20L5?

[Anonymous No.5996629]

Alright guys I got the based grandaddy of all consumer CRT's upstairs and set up in my room, yes, the sony KV-FV310, 32 inches and 170lbs of display for the most discerning of prosumer retro gamers. Been doing some gaming the last couple nights and... I mean, I'm glad this thing was free at least. Lol. Pic related.

Does anyone with a good eye for this stuff have an idea of how much of what's going on is fixable via the service menu? I understand it'll never be like, perfect, and some games are more noticable than others when it comes to geometry errors, but this is fairly busted.

I'll consider it a win if I can at least get it to not overscan without breaking something else in the process. It has a wavy section that's noticable in horizontal scrollers, and the convergence is pretty btfo in the top right corner, but as I understand these things are either not fixable or may require opening up the case to try out stuff that may or may not work. Any tips greatly appreciated.

[Anonymous No.5996639]

>>5996629

Detailed pic of corner problem

[Anonymous No.5996652]

>>5996629

SOTN for some reason shows all of the bottom of the screen (while having like an inch tall black bar at the top) but games all seem to position a little different, often overscanning the bottom portion.

[Anonymous No.5996656]

>>5996652

It also is worth mentioning that it sustained a drop of about an inch onto it's face when it was being moved into the house, regrettably causing a few chips to the exterior most noticable on the sides of either speaker stand and below the sony logo.

I would not be surprised if this knocked some shit around in the TV and fucked it up, but from what I've read, it's also not uncommon that larger flat trinitrons will have bad geometry regardless.

The picture is honestly good enough as is for me to keep it around for at least a few months and then pass it along to someone else who wants it. It's reminiscent of a well-worn arcade monitor. But if it can get dialed in a bit better, it could be nice to have long term.

[Anonymous No.5997116]

What are some good quality composite cables niggers?

[Anonymous No.5997120]

>>5997116
The cables that shipped with the console are always good by composite standards.

[Anonymous No.5997223]

>>5986805
What are some good Dreamcast games I should get?

[Anonymous No.5997247]

>>5996656
you doomed it, yo. it looks like the leaning tower of pizza now.

[Anonymous No.5997474]

>>5997116
>good quality composite cables

[Anonymous No.5997481]

>>5996629
240p test suite

[Anonymous No.5997596]

>>5996652
What are you playing that game on?

[Anonymous No.5997602]

>>5997223
Powers tone 1/2, I'll Bleed, D2, Sword of Berserk, Tech Romance, Maken X, etc. Look at the obscure stuff you can't play elsewhere all the Big name games like Sonic, Shenmue, Crazy Taxi, Jet Grind Radio, etc have all been ported to other systems. Generally speaking though the Dreamcast had the definitive version of a lot of Gen 5 ports like Rayman 2, MvC, Resident Evil 2, etc if you're into that.

[Anonymous No.5997621]

>>5996629
This guy >>5997247 is wrong, most of the issues you've shown are fixable.
The slight waviness is to be expected for a flat screen, you might be able to make it better but probably not perfect. The image being wider on the bottom can be fixed with pincushion settings, and I'm pretty sure that set has a rotation option on the service menu that you can fix the slight clockwise turn that the full image looks like it has (the whole picture you posted is slanted though so it's hard to tell if I'm imagining that).

Before you do ANYTHING in the service menu, get a pen and paper and write down the name and value of EVERY SINGLE option in the service menu. This takes 10 or 15 minutes, but is hugely worth it in case you make a terrible mistake in the service menu and have to revert your settings.
The corner convergence issue is maybe fixable in the service menu, but if not it's doable with magnetic strips.
>>5996652
SOTN is just like that, I've noticed it on all of my CRTs.
>>5996656
>The picture is honestly good enough as is for me to keep it around for at least a few months and then pass it along to someone else who wants it.
Honestly, it sounds like you're chasing some vague idea of visual perfection, and I think you need to realize that it doesn't exist. PVMs are nice, but the reduced size really is something to consider. If you're considering replacing the 310 with something, spend some time going back and forth between the two before you ditch it. Otherwise you'll probably regret getting rid of it.

[Anonymous No.5997630]

>>5997621
ok boomer

[Anonymous No.5997638]

>>5997630
lol
Call me what you want, I've been down the rabbit hole you're so eager to jump into. Happiness is a nice consumer set. If you want perfect geometry you're better off emulating on your computer's LCD like the zoomer you are.

[Anonymous No.5997642]

>>5997638
based

[Anonymous No.5997682]

>>5997602
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.5997729]

Anyone explain to me how hooking up a Dreamcast works and why there's all these scart and vga combiners?

I got a 20L5, why can't I just hook it up via RGB and rely on sync on green for 480p games? All these cables I see for the DC have these 15/31khz switches.

[Anonymous No.5997736]

>>5996629
>but this is fairly busted.
>that pic
It seems that you're too young to have ever used a CRT television before if you think that's "busted."
>>5996656
>I would not be surprised if this knocked some shit around in the TV and fucked it up
None of what you've posted resembles anything like that at all. You'd see much more dramatic issues if anything important was damaged or broken off from that drop (pic related).

[Anonymous No.5997740]

>>5997729
As I understand it, the Dreamcast AV-Out has pins that need to be connected to +5V or GND depending on what video output mode you want it to be.

[Anonymous No.5997746]

>>5997729
15khz is standard def and 31khz is high def. You could open the connector on the console side and wire it differently for 480p.thats basically what the switches on the cables you're looking at do. A regular pc monitor won't do 15khz and most tv or even professional monitors won't do 31khz.

[Anonymous No.5998137]

>>5997729
PVMeme doesn’t take rgbhv so you need transcoder to turn it to rgbs

[Anonymous No.5998149]

>>5998137
You don't need a transcoder, just a sync interface.

[Anonymous No.5998447]

>>5997621
>Before you do ANYTHING in the service menu, get a pen and paper and write down the name and value of EVERY SINGLE option in the service menu. This takes 10 or 15 minutes

Or anon could simply take a picture of every sub-menu and have job done in a fraction of the time

[Anonymous No.5998464]

I was researching how to connect my computer to my CRT using component, and I was about to make a budget PC with an HD 5450 to use CRT EmuDriver, plus a RGB->YPbPr

However I found this post, and it sounds like this solution is just as good and I can even use my existing Nvidia computer?

https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/awqolc/get_high_quality_240p_from_your_pc_to_your_tv/

What am I missing?

[Anonymous No.5998474]

>>5998447
Every setting on a consumer trinitron service menu has its own screen, he'd need about 50 pictures and it'd be much less convenient to refer to later.

[Anonymous No.5998486]

>>5998474
Just look up the service manual online. It always lists default values in them.

[Anonymous No.5998713]

>>5998486
Some sets were configured using the service menu at the factory to account for individual manufacturing variations in the tubes themselves, so it's worth writing the values from your set down.

[Anonymous No.5998750]

>>5997736
>>5997621

Thank you, helpful anons.

I think I have a tendency to be pessimistic or think other people's stuff is better than mine etc thus feeling like, oh, it's kinda wavy, scan and convergence errors, I must have got a bunk one or broken it, and I'll never find another one just chilling in my neighborhood for free again

Perfection is obviously not really the point of owning a TV like this, I just know that the CRT we had in the house growing up, also a flat trinitron but not one this nice, didn't have like instantly noticable overscan and etc

The only thing I really am thinking of "replacing" this with eventually is an OLED. I was looking into one anyways since I think when combined with my OSSC it should be a relatively final solution for old games as it should get blacks/motion/brightness up to a level far enough above my current flat panel to be happy with 1 tv to do everything,

But those are still $1000+ and then I found this for free. Good enough.

One thing I'll miss whenever it goes to it's next home is the speakers. One aspect of old sets that really hasn't been matched since the change to flat panel and idk if it really can be.

[Anonymous No.5998820]

I have a nice Sony KV24FS120 that I've used off and on for a few years, but lately it's started randomly having this high-pitched, screeching buzzing sound that comes and goes with no real warning or consistency, but when it starts I have no way of making it stop, including turning the TV off and back on.
Is there something I can do about this problem? I've been thinking about just giving it to a friend and finding a new one, but I've had so little luck on my hunt that I'm starting to think it'd be more worthwhile to try figuring out how to fix it.

[Anonymous No.5999242]

any CRT with component is better than none?
serious question

[Anonymous No.5999278]

>>5998464
Onegai help. Anyone with their PC connected to a CRT can help?

[Anonymous No.5999289]

>>5999242
What's wrong with CRT with component?

[Anonymous No.5999307]

>>5999289
sorry, that's not what a meant.

What I meant was, do I need one of those PVMemes or any CRT with component video is ok?

[Anonymous No.5999316]

>>5999307
You don't really need a PVM. They're nice, aesthetically pleasing, and they have a great picture quality, but any old 21 inch (or more) CRT with component is good for playing shit and having it look good.

[Anonymous No.5999352]

>>5999307
Depends on the systems you want to play, really.
>>5999316 wrapped it up well, though.

[Anonymous No.5999472]

>>5999316
>>5999352
Thanks, I will try to find one no too big.

[Anonymous No.5999473]

>>5999307
Component is fine. A cheaper alternative that's close to a PVM is to find a VGA monitor and pair it with a line doubler. You can find RGB/YUV/EGA/CGA to VGA converters for about 30 bucks

[Anonymous No.5999484]

>>5999472
Good luck, anon!

[Anonymous No.5999487]

>>5999473
Or about $60 if you want one without lag.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000305540495.html

[Anonymous No.5999526]

Are these crt's any good?

[Anonymous No.5999531]

How can I use a light gun with a pvm that is connected through an extron switcher. Because of the extron, I am using a sync stripper to get pure sync out of a ps2.

[Anonymous No.5999540]

>>5999526
They're decent, but they only support a single scan rate of something like 72 kHz, which makes them a bit useless for /vr/ purposes.

[Anonymous No.5999546]

>>5999531
You're using a scart to BNC cable, right? I'd try take the light gun's yellow jack and putting it between the sync BNC and the switcher. Using adapters if necessary. They also sell scart cables with light gun jacks built into them to make it easier

[Anonymous No.5999549]

>>5986805
Sorry for phone post, this is RF on shadow mask. Camera made lines, second closer Pic to follow.

[Anonymous No.5999550]

>>5999546
I'm not using scart anywhere, it's all bnc. So, av multi out with bnc breakout on the other end going into extron, then the 4 bnc cables going to the TV.

[Anonymous No.5999556]

>>5999550
Still, the yellow jack looks for sync so I'd give it a try.

[Anonymous No.5999558]

>>5999549
Never thought to play that game in tate before.

[Anonymous No.5999560]

>>5999549
Little better Pic. I have composite and rgb cables ordered, if I can be not lazy I'll take pics. This is an RGB modded shadow mask consumer set. Rgb makes the colors amazing on here. RF is honestly serviceable but colors are washed out some.

[Anonymous No.5999564]

>>5999558
Yeah sorry about phone posting but I'm not at home.

[Anonymous No.5999567]

>>5998820
Anyone?

[Anonymous No.5999568]

>>5999556
Thanks I'll give it a shot

[Anonymous No.5999570]

Does anyone have any recommendations for a good portable (6" or smaller) color CRT with A/V in? There's a Rhapsody TV-670 available locally but one of my friends had a bad experience with his A/V inputs not working so I wonder if it's a common problem. Pic is not the exact one, just a representative.

[Anonymous No.5999573]

>>5999570
Swear to god I thought that was a microwave at first

[Anonymous No.5999574]

>>5999567
If it stops when you touch the back case, Take the back off, put soft foam between where the flyback bolts to the back case and put the case back together. For some of these trinitrons the case gets harmonic resonance and this stops it. Please post back and let us know if it works.

[Anonymous No.5999584]

>>5999574
Thanks, I'll have to give that a try. It might be some days before I can get back with results, though. My self-bump timing was unfortunate but since I originally posted in the early AM I figured I should try to get some daytime attention for the question while I have the chance.

[Anonymous No.6000220]

Does anyone have any clue why my an RGBS cable i made only registers as component when being used with my ps2? I plugged in to a psx and it works just fine for rgb. If I use swap it over to the ps2, everything is green unless I switch the tv over to component.

[Anonymous No.6000226]

>>6000220
It's a setting in the PS2's menu.

[Anonymous No.6000230]

>>6000226
eyyy, thanks. It seems so obvious now.

[Anonymous No.6000247]

umm fellas?

[Anonymous No.6000252]

>>6000247
is this

[Anonymous No.6000257]

>>6000252
a chad rgb equipped zenith set?

[Anonymous No.6000259]

>>6000257
(seller located in grand rapids on the facebook marketplace if anybody wants it)

[Anonymous No.6000273]

>>6000259
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1986-08-07-8602270039-story.html
it's this zenith tv with bose audio. I can't find a manual for it yet

[Anonymous No.6000472]

>>6000257
I suspect the RGB power would be for digital levels, not really useful for muh retro unless you love the earlyish home computers.

[Anonymous No.6000483]

>>5998464
Please don’t bully me /crt/
No one has experience connecting a PC to a CRT?

[Anonymous No.6000612]

>>6000472
Possible, but it would be a little strange given that the RGB sync input is evidently 75-ohm terminated.

[Anonymous No.6000653]

>>6000483
>No one has experience connecting a PC to a CRT?
You're kidding, right?

[Anonymous No.6000658]

>>5999560
FTFY.
Learn to not suck.

[Anonymous No.6000662]

>>5996586
University Loft Co.
I'm not kidding, that's the company's name. In Indianapolis.
IDK if they will sell stuff to individuals.

And for audio I'm using that altec lansing IM600 ipod dock. I don't use the 20L5 as much as my smaller panasonic which I use my harman kardon 2.1 speakers with.

[Anonymous No.6000667]

>>6000662
>P.S. https://www.uloft.com/
Also, looks like this is it https://varsityloftclub.com/product-category/metropolitan-series/

[Anonymous No.6000668]

>>6000662
>This is just the end table

Shame I actually quite like them and they look sturdy. Looks like I'll stick to Ikea shit.

[Anonymous No.6000674]

>>6000668
That's what I'd do.
Or make something yourself, I guess.
It is very pricey; my guess is they're usually bulk purchased. They have been quite sturdy. I've put my 20L5 on the top shelf of this desk before (it's about 70 lbs).
Not that I see the desk for sale.

[Anonymous No.6000684]

>>5998750
Glad to see you came around. Keep in mind that when people post their CRTs, they're often taking photos from a certain angle to make it look as good as possible, there's definitely an art to getting good photos.
>>5998750
>I just know that the CRT we had in the house growing up, also a flat trinitron but not one this nice, didn't have like instantly noticable overscan and etc
You were probably just not paying attention to that sort of thing, but it's possible that it just happened to be well-calibrated.

[Anonymous No.6000689]

>>5999560
Is that an SMS or a genesis?
It matters.
Early master systems had different encoders than late master systems/early genesis systems (V7040 instead of the CXA1145).
If it's a model II genesis it might even have a third encoder (CXA1645).
In my experience the V7040 looks better than the 1145, and maybe a bit worse than the 1645 but they're close.

[Anonymous No.6001204]

>>6000653
I mean a modern PC

[Anonymous No.6001497]

>>6000247
>input 6

wtf?

[Anonymous No.6001617]

>>6001204
lel, what an absolute smoothbrained mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.6001672]

>>6000689
SMS, model 1

[Anonymous No.6001685]

>>6000689
There are a lot more Genesis encoders than just those. The Samsung one is particularly shitty. The model 2 Genesis in particular is a parts bin console.

[Anonymous No.6001708]

>>6001617
Tell me a better way to play Arcade games on a CRT then

[Anonymous No.6001720]

>>6001708
>>6001617
>>6001204
>>6000653
Fine, I'll be clearer.
Does anyone have any experience using CRT Emudriver?

[Anonymous No.6001797]

>>6001720
connecting a PC CRT or a 15khz crt

[Anonymous No.6001934]

I'm in the process of recapping a Viewsonic G810's neck board, and I have a couple questions on identifying capacitors.

For example, One set of caps I need is C601, C602, C603. On the part list, the description says, "CAP AL 50V 3.3U M 5*11 TP5"

From this I can tell that I need to get an aluminum electrolytic capacitor that is rated at 50v and 3.3μF with a tolerance of ±20% (Please correct me if I am wrong). However, I am not sure what the "5*11 TP5" mean. Additionally, on DigiKey a lot of capacitors come up that fill the above requirements but have different low frequency and high frequency ripple currents. hoping someone can clear up what the above terms mean and what would be best for my CRT.

Thanks for any help guys, enjoy a picture of my other PC CRT.

[Anonymous No.6002629]

>>6001204
It's got USB 3.1 on the motherboard as well as HDMI ports. It's modern. I just chose to get one with lots of legacy ports, a parallel port header on the motherboard, etc. so that I could more easily interface it with older equipment.
Your computer just sucks for compatibility.
GFX card is a GTX 750 Ti, so it's no "powerhouse" but I can emulate wii games fine on it so that's enough for me.
(Yeah, one of the USB 3 port "tongues" broke. That was my bad.)

[Anonymous No.6002630]

>>6002629
Also the total bandwidth of the 750 Ti means it doesn't need to be in a PCIe 3 slot, so I put it at the bottom to make room for my SCSI controller.

[Anonymous No.6002685]

>>5986805
My Wii with Homebrew Channel and FCE Ultra GX emulating NES on a CRT I just got from a friend who is moving. Could you tell the difference from looking in real life (a cell phone photo isn't really fair game on account of lighting discrepancies) between a Wii and an NES both fed through composite on a small CRT like this one?

[Anonymous No.6002686]

>>6002685
Yes, even without A/B'ing, because the composite video signal generated by the NES is much less "standard"/"orthodox" and results in jagged vertical edges and a sort of "pixel crawling" shimmering effect when scrolling horizontally.

[Anonymous No.6002692]

>>6002686
(additionally all NES models have a jailbar effect, although it is much more noticeable on the famicom and the top loading NES than the AV Famicom or front loading NES).

[Anonymous No.6002695]

>>6002686
This, and some of the colors will be a bit off as well.

[Anonymous No.6002694]

>>6002692
All possibly excluding the titler and built-in-TV ones, I should say.
AKA all the ones that used a composite video PPU.

[Anonymous No.6002698]

>>6002695
Colors can usually be tweaked to be about right on a wii by either changing the palette or adjusting the phase/hue control on a TV. BMF Final V2 looks about like my famicom. But it still won't make the jagged edges or anything else the NES usually does happen.

[Anonymous No.6002709]

>>6002698
You still have the issue of some palette entries being out of range in RGB, notably the SMB sky. You can get it close but you'll never get it exactly the same in an emulator.

[Anonymous No.6002713]

>>6002709
Heh, what do you think your TV's color primaries are if not RGB?
The composite video signal has to be translated into the RGB color space in order to drive the electron guns. Think about what you say before you say it.

[Anonymous No.6002714]

>>6002713
(Note: that is not to say there is one correct way to translate these colors. But it IS true that for a given single TV you can map the colors the NES outputs to RGB values)

[Anonymous No.6002723]

>>6002713
I'm talking about digital RGB ranges, dumbass, i.e. what the palettes are defined in. You can max out the blue channel in your emulator palette but it still won't drive the blue electron gun in the CRT as hard as the decoded composite from an actual NES. There's been a lot of discussion about this topic over the years, go educate yourself.

[Anonymous No.6002726]

>>6002723
If you want to overdrive blue to match NES results you can just turn contrast up, or blue gain.

[Anonymous No.6002730]

>>6002723
You can counter this by simply cranking the contrast knob up on the CRT.
>Hello kettle. This is pot. You're black.

[Anonymous No.6002735]

>>6002730
(while lowering the peak values for R and G in the palette)

[Anonymous No.6002834]

>>6001934
Were you emulating, or did you plugged your Saturn to it?

[Anonymous No.6003078]

>>6001797
15khz CRT, a Sony Triniton with only Composite and Component input

[Anonymous No.6003086]

>>6002629
I mean that's what my first option one I mentioned. Building a budget PC around an ATI 5450 and using EmuDriver.
However the reddit post seems to imply he found a hack to get pixel perfect output using a modern video-card.
It seems to make sense, it's using a transcoder so there is no (big) input lag added, and as long as you are using integer scaling and the trascoder correctly ignores the extra pixels, you should get the correct output?
Again, this is a consumer set I'm talking about, obviously if it was a CRT monitor this whole discussion would be moot

[Anonymous No.6003124]

>>6003086
This was a consumer CRT monitor and >>6000653 does not mention anything about being a YPbPr TV. Additionally, your response "I meant a modern PC" was nonsensical.

[Anonymous No.6003131]

>>6003124
meant to say that >>6000483 does not mention being a YPbPr TV. (Though it does refer back to the other post).

[Anonymous No.6003138]

>>6003124
>>6003131
Well sorry, I did not see a modern PC in the pictures so I just assumed.
Still doesn't help my situation does it? It's not like I have a GTX 750 lying around and I'm too stupid to get it working
I trying to decide if building a new PC for EmuDriver is worth it while I'm waiting for the Transcoder to arrive so I can try that hack I posted.
How does anything in that post have anything to do with my original post? Who cares if some guy is showing off his setup which I do not have

[Anonymous No.6003151]

>>6003138
Because the post I responded to gave nothing to work with. No information at all. >>6000483

If I had used crt emudriver or whatever I'd give advice. My only AMD GPU is in my powerbook G4 and I run linux on that because I'm not retarded.

[Anonymous No.6003154]

>>6003151
ATI*

[Anonymous No.6003765]

Anyone familiar with these CRT monitors: LG Flatron 775FT 17" and Sony Multiscan sf II 15"
Any good?

[Anonymous No.6003769]

>>6003765
you tell me what you think first

[Anonymous No.6003805]

>>6003769
They put me in touch with someone who has both in good condition, but i won't be able to test. cannot find much info online

[Anonymous No.6003847]

Anyone tried this Innovation Super RGB cable for Dreamcast? It looks fine but it's really cheap and I can't find much information about it so I'm sceptical.

[Anonymous No.6003850]

>>6003805
but tell me how good you think these monitors are for your purposes

[Anonymous No.6003862]

>>6003850
I have an ATI 4800 and want to emulate on original res.
which one of the two would you get? Most likely either would be fine for my purposes but I want to know if one of them has better quality of also if they happen to be pieces of shit.

[Anonymous No.6003863]

>>6003765
Both are low end and not worth too much but will look great for emulation. Dot pitch is similar but the LG is bigger so probably will resolve higher res. Both are AG.
Also I found both service manuals in a couple minutes dude.

[Anonymous No.6003867]

>>6002834
He's emulating, you can tell because the Saturn port of the game has reduced-resolution background art.

[Anonymous No.6003872]

>>6003862
they are very comparable so I would just get the bigger one. Emulate what, 240p, or old pc games?

[Anonymous No.6004324]

Save the thread with oc

[Anonymous No.6004373]

>>6004324
Aye aye cap'n

[Anonymous No.6004456]

>>6004373
Dot triad? What's the setup?

[Anonymous No.6004461]

>>5986812
What sort of mongo ever could think Sony sucks? They were the defacto headphone for studio, the MDR line (and ultra high end with their R10s). Literally anyone that was anyone used Sony for reference. They also set the standard with a few other companies for CD and some other digital formats.

[Anonymous No.6004465]

Riddle me this /crt/

Your house had a fire. All your CRTs burned up. You have to go to ebay and buy a replacement. What one is on ebay right now worth getting?

[Anonymous No.6004475]

>>6004373
game?

[Anonymous No.6004486]

hp a7217a

[Anonymous No.6004549]

>>6004456
Panasonic BT-H1390YN. 750 TVL. RGB from genesis.
>>6004475
Phantasy Star II.
Not as good as the first one or 4 in my opinion for gameplay (very, very grindy), but the story is pretty strong and rather dark.

[Anonymous No.6004550]

>>6004465
None.
I'm not doing your shopping or homework for you, and anyway you should shop local.

[Anonymous No.6004558]

>>6004486
Ok. This has nothing to do with retro games.

[Anonymous No.6004560]

>>6004558
Yes, we know displays are not retro gaming. Good eye.

[Anonymous No.6004562]

>>6004550
Wow, too retarded to make recommendations? Maybe /pol/ is more your speed.
>LE SHOP LOCAL.
lmfao. First new question or discussion ITT and your autism kicks in.

[Anonymous No.6004582]

>>6004560
the autism is strong with this one
>>6004562
>le shop local
>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.6004601]

>>6004582
*clears throat* ahem
U MAD

[Anonymous No.6004650]

>>6004486
>hp a7217a
Based

[Anonymous No.6004676]

>>6004324

[Anonymous No.6004682]

>>6004324

[Anonymous No.6004690]

>>6004324

[Anonymous No.6004701]

>>6004324

[Anonymous No.6004706]

>>6004324

[Anonymous No.6004710]

So I’ve had an issue trying to get my pictures to not look washed the fuck out. Only have my phone to use as a camera atm (iPhone 7+) I’ve been experimenting with using my phones built in photo editor. I may have over did it a tad with the saturation but it definitely looks a lot better then my previous photo attempts, I think.

[Anonymous No.6004725]

>>6004710
kek.
Shoot with a real camera or a phone that lets you do manual exposures and save raws.

[Anonymous No.6004735]

>>6001685
Yeah I forgot the samsung one existed.
It's kinda funny how they hopped back to the discrete YM2612 for a while with the model 2.

[Anonymous No.6004771]

[Anonymous No.6004902]

Pick your poison, /vr/.

[Anonymous No.6004905]

>>6004902
you've moved on to IV?

[Anonymous No.6004914]

>>6004905
II wears me out fast. I'm making steady progress on it, but it's a real grinder. 1 and 4 are my favorites but I feel like I really need to finally finish II.

[Anonymous No.6004915]

>>6004905
(Also I owned IV about two years before I finally got a copy of II. It's good to unwind after some random bullshit makes me temporarily ragequit II.)

[Anonymous No.6004919]

>>6004914
>>6004915
Not even sure if I should actually bother tracking down a copy of 3.

[Anonymous No.6004961]

[Anonymous No.6005002]

>>6004902
I pick free20l5cyanide

[Anonymous No.6005056]

>>6005002
I prefer shitpostarsenic myself. Keep it coming.

[Anonymous No.6005386]

Is the any reason to pick up a test pattern generator or is 240p test suite good enough or better? I ran into a test pattern generator at a thrift store but it's priced at $10. It seems pretty useless but pretty neat.

[Anonymous No.6005394]

Fuck sake did anyone ever make a 13" CRT with stereo? Everything I find is mono. I swear I remember growing up with a small stereo CRT. I vividly remember plugging in all 3 cables. Why is this impossible to find now?

[Anonymous No.6005460]

>>6005394
There are a few. I know Toshiba made some for example.

[Anonymous No.6005472]

>>6005394
some have L/R plugs but are still mono

[Anonymous No.6005476]

>>6005386
$10 is a steal. I'd take it if you don't want it.
240p test suite is good enough though.
>>6005394
Just use external PC speakers.

[Anonymous No.6005486]

>>6005476
Yeah I'll probably go snag it on my way home from work. It's a smaller handheld type and not one of the big fuckers. It's old as hell and looked like it only works with rf/coaxial.

[Anonymous No.6005492]

>>6004902
Right

[Anonymous No.6005572]

>>6003847
just make sure your set is super rgb compatible anon, that's not the same as regular rgb fyi.

[Anonymous No.6005920]

>>6005394
well all the sony 13" of the FS series have stereo and even component
there's also this bad momma, the kv-1380r which had twin speakers sticking out of the sides. One of the earliest sets of its kind to have stereo

[Anonymous No.6006079]

>>6005394
The Toshiba 14AF4x models are your best bet. Luckily they're easy to find cause they're not a trannytron.

[Anonymous No.6006092]

>>6005920
I have this, and it's a great little set. Composite and RF only, though, but since the screen is small it looks pretty decent with composite.

[Anonymous No.6006565]

>>6004324

[Anonymous No.6006701]

Thoughts on the JVC I'Art? Seems like the D-Series is the only one people talk about.

[Anonymous No.6007085]

>>6005386
For one, it’s not bound to a retro console. Second, the color bars will be more accurate than what the test suite will produce, but that’s only useful if you’re using other instruments to calibrate the set. Since you seem like a normie, just go with the test suite.

[Anonymous No.6007089]

>>6004902
Left. Nice “water” on the right. Looks like TV static.
>>6005492
Retard.

[Anonymous No.6007738]

>>6006701
They're decent flat sets, about the same as an average wega. Nothing much to say about them really.

[Anonymous No.6008306]

has anyone ever used an HD/digital antenna as a modulator for analog signals/retro stuff?

[Anonymous No.6008314]

>>5986805
Can someone help me identify pic related? Saw it on the craigslist free section. The listing just says "old tv"

[Anonymous No.6008318]

Hey y’all. I think I just struck gold, so I don’t know much about crts I see these threads all the time, and today I found this in my neighborhood on the side of someone’s house with a sign taped to it “works well, free”

It’s a RCA colortrak stereo monitor manufactured in late 1990

Didn’t have a cord, how can I get a replacement?

[Anonymous No.6008319]

>>6008318

[Anonymous No.6008321]

>>6008319

[Anonymous No.6008323]

>>6008321

[Anonymous No.6008338]

>>6008318
Cool tv! Looks like a standard 2 prong power cord, just search Amazon or eBay for it they're very common

[Anonymous No.6008340]

>>6008318
Does it not use a standard ac adapter? I'm sorry I can't help, but nice find. Take a picture with some games running once you manage to find a cord. The wood panels are very pleasing.

[Anonymous No.6008523]

shoutout to my boy phil holdin it down at the comfy zone!

[Anonymous No.6008526]

>>6008523
better pic of the latest kojima classic

[Anonymous No.6008539]

>>6008526

[Anonymous No.6008543]

>>6008539

[Anonymous No.6008610]

So is this a floor tv? What would hold this beast at least 2 feet off the ground?

And can you take the tv out of its wood frame?

[Anonymous No.6008665]

>>6008610
>And can you take the tv out of its wood frame?
It would be extremely painful.
>>6008314
Looks like a KV-1972R or KV-1997R but the earphone jack isn't there. I can at least tell you that it's mono and RF only in all likelihood. Not very many Sony sets around that time period (1985) had composite inputs. You should pick it up if you're interested in a period authentic NES TV.

[Anonymous No.6008718]

>>6008610
Holy shit I used to have that exact set in the early 90s.
Don't ruin it by removing it from the wood frame. Leave it as a floor TV as the gods intended.
FTFY on that image.
>iOS scum

[Anonymous No.6008721]

>>6008718

[Anonymous No.6008730]

>>6008665
Sharp made the only """authentic""" NES TV.
It used RGB.
Not my pic since they're practically unobtainium. The point is, "authentic" is a stupid term to throw around.

[Anonymous No.6008932]

>>6008730
I don't even really care about NES but that thing would be cool as fuck to own. If I saw one I'd get it just for Zelda II and RCR.

[Anonymous No.6008971]

>>6008730
I said "period authentic" since the TV in question is from 1985 which is the same year the NES was released, you fucking dumb autist.

[Anonymous No.6009332]

>>6008730
I actually have one of those sharp guys in my attic.

[Anonymous No.6009405]

>>6008721
god I love the woodgrain TVs

[Anonymous No.6009413]

>>5999570
bumping this, I want a cute tiny TV that can play games decently.

[Anonymous No.6010070]

>>6008971
Friendly reminder the famicom launched in 1983

[Anonymous No.6010104]

>>6010070
Friendly reminder I said NES, not famicom. They're not the same thing.

[Anonymous No.6010212]

is there any way to get rid of that high pitch whine that you can just barely hear on old crts?
its just audible enough to give me a headache after a short while

[Anonymous No.6010279]

>>6010212
no.

[Anonymous No.6010597]

>>6010104
>Famicom and NES are ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS because the plastic box is different
OK Zoomer.
Also, the NES was only at test market in the US in 1985. General release wasn't really until '86.

[Anonymous No.6010708]

>>5986805
I know PS3 isn't retro but this is the only resource for CRT stuff on this site so grant a humble anon some information, friends.
I have a CRT that supports up to 1080i, but when I hook my PS3 up via component, none of the video options work except standard. Even if I only check 480p, my screen fucks up when testing the display. What causes this? Am I doing something wrong? Everything shows up perfectly fine on standard, but if my TV supports 1080i, why can't my PS3 go up to 720p or even 480p?

[Anonymous No.6010732]

>>6010708
What are you using for video? Component or HDMI?

[Anonymous No.6010735]

>>6010732
Component. Are there seriously CRTs with HDMI slots?

[Anonymous No.6010740]

>>6010735
Yeah. Are sure its component on the tv not rgb?

[Anonymous No.6010743]

>>6010735
A few of the HD ones have them, yeah. My Tau did. What model TV?

[Anonymous No.6010746]

>>6010740
What do you mean? I don't know much about RGB, my only passing knowledge is that old systems can be modded to use it via SCART and shit. I used to have my PS3 hooked up to an old HD TV but recently took it downstairs to make some room and try it out on a CRT. I figured as long as I used component cables I could get 720p but this TV isn't having it no matter what I pick.

>>6010743
Can't check at the moment. It's one of those Sony Trinitrons people are always freaking over, though.

[Anonymous No.6010751]

>>6010746
Can't give you an answer if you can't get a model but it's entirely possible that it's got component in but doesn't have progressive scan

[Anonymous No.6010758]

>>6010751
>possible that it's got component in but doesn't have progressive scan
Shouldn't it still work in 1080i though?

[Anonymous No.6010759]

Anyone have any experience with the KV-27V42? There's one at a local electronics recycling plant I could go and pickup. Doing a bit of research and it looks like it'd be possible to RGB mod it, though I'm not 100% sure. otherwise it just supports composite and s-video

My current sets are 14 and 20 inches, so having a nice 27" to build around seems perfect

[Anonymous No.6010761]

>>6010758
No?

[Anonymous No.6010768]

>>6010761
The TV supports 1080i. The PS3 supports 1080i. I'm missing something here.

[Anonymous No.6010778]

>>6010768
If it did it would accept the signal. Early HDMI can have handshake problems which is why I asked, and analog can fuck up if the signal is being fucked with in some manner, but otherwise it would work if it were supported. The TV model would allow us to better troubleshoot.

[Anonymous No.6010785]

>>6010759
Free is free

[Anonymous No.6010790]

>>6010778
found a chance to check it. kv36fv310. I'm going off of memory from back when I looked up the thing's specs, so I might just be wrong about the 1080i.

[Anonymous No.6010797]

>>6010790
CNET is listing 1080i for some reason but the manual lists 480i max.

[Anonymous No.6010804]

>>6010790
>>6010797
Yeah, that's definitely not an HD set. 480i max.

[Anonymous No.6010806]

>>6010797
Guess that explains it. thanks anon, though in retrospect I feel stupid for thinking this thing could display 1080i

[Anonymous No.6010821]

>>6010806
Still a pretty damn solid SDTV

[Anonymous No.6010834]

>>6010821
Yeah and PS3 still looks great on it. I was just perplexed is all.

[Anonymous No.6010863]

>>6010797
Never trust CNET. That being said you've got a good set. People freak out over the 310 being "the best" SD TV ever made.

[Anonymous No.6010869]

>>6010759
It's probably good if the individual set is in good shape.
Bit big for my liking though.
if you find a service manual I might be able to point out how to rgb mod it.
That said, has anyone else here actually RGB modded a TV? I see people talk about it all the time but never see photos of sets that have actually been successfully modded.

[Anonymous No.6010897]

>>6010869
You can find a few videos on youtube of people modding their TVs. I think this video does a pretty fair comparison.

https://youtu.be/jbi9HEz-cww?t=738

[Anonymous No.6010904]

>>6010897
I've done it. I wasn't asking for advice. Re-read what I said.
I was wondering if anyone else here had actually followed through on their intentions to do it.

[Anonymous No.6010912]

>>6010897
for instance:
have _you_ RGB modded your TV? Or did you get one intending to RGB mod it and then chicken out or put it off forever?

[Anonymous No.6010985]

>>6010759
I've modded that exact model before. It's very straightforward, but be sure to ground the S-Video detect pin on the AV switch IC to bypass the comb filter for your sync input, otherwise you'll get a rather large horizontal shift. I'd recommend doing the OSD mux method; the shmups forum has a big TV RGB mod thread, you should be able to find the resistor value spreadsheet over there.

[Anonymous No.6011275]

The whine of my CRT has a sort of scratchy distorted quality. What would cause this? Should I be worried?

[Anonymous No.6011363]

>>6010985
How did it look post mod vs pre mod?

[Anonymous No.6011450]

>>5988032
wait which one is supposed to be better

[Anonymous No.6011549]

>>6011275
Can you record it, upload it to vocaroo?

[Anonymous No.6011626]

>>6011275
probably the flyback is starting to fail. if this is the case there's not much you can do short of replacing the flyback.

[Anonymous No.6011653]

>>6011363
Like the difference between S-Video and RGB. One of the nicer looking sets I've done, though it does have some corner convergence issues I'd like to address at some point.

[Anonymous No.6011865]

>>6011450
you choose

[Anonymous No.6011916]

>>6011653
>Like the difference between S-Video and RGB.
So, no difference?

[Anonymous No.6011917]

>>6011916
Baste

[Anonymous No.6011954]

>>6011916
>more processed analogue signals in a different color space are as good as less processed analogue signals in the original color space

[Anonymous No.6011959]

>>6011916
>>6011917
Nice cope.
>>6011653
Pics would be nice.

[Anonymous No.6012104]

>>6011959
I'll try to remember to hook it up later tonight and get a few pics. I only have a shitty phone camera that doesn't like CRTs very much, though.

[Anonymous No.6012118]

>>6011954
My nigger there’s no “processing” going on if a console outputs a signal naturally and the display accepts it.

[Anonymous No.6012123]

>>6012118
In addition, consoles that do use RGB generate the color digitally. If the console outputs RGB analog, a conversion is taking place anyway.

[Anonymous No.6012126]

>>6011954
If you want true accuracy you wouldn’t let the signal become RGB in the first place. Otherwise, if you’re not concerned with true accuracy, S-video is 99.9% the same as RGB. RGB is 99% as good as digital. But if you’re going to pretend to be a purist, and you use RGB, that’s just stupid because that’s an analog signal that degrades the original image.

[Anonymous No.6012208]

>>6012123
Since you seem to be a little dense, here's how that works.
1) Most consoles don't expose digital RGB.
2) Even if they do, driving analogue monitors requires one DAC per channel.
3) If you aren't using RGB, instead that becomes DAC -> analogue multiplicative matrix to transform it into the YIQ color space -> video encoder (consisting of pic related, many analogue transformations) -> TV input -> decoding (basically inverse of all the shit I just mentioned except the initial DAC) -> electron guns.
But sure, that's totally the same as a single DAC and an op amp.
>>6012118
Oh, so you have a TV that has phosphors with primaries other than RGB?
That's what I thought.

[Anonymous No.6012214]

>>6012126
Tell me, how does a digital RGB signal get displayed on a CRT?
At some point the TV itself will convert the digital signal to an analogue one, even if it takes digital inputs.

[Anonymous No.6012218]

>>6012208
Actually let me correct myself. The YIQ matrix is inside the encoder usually.
Other than that my point stands.

[Anonymous No.6012242]

>>6012208
Not gonna try to parse your babble but if a console outputs Svideo directly there’s no processing going on by the time it gets to your TV provided there’s nothing interrupting the chain. Don’t bother responding to this, I won’t be engaging your autism further.

[Anonymous No.6012249]

>>6012214
Exactly why if you want to be pure about the signal, you don't display it on a CRT which would result in analog noise. I'm not advocating for acting like a purist about the signal. I'm just pointing out how infantile it is to claim you're a purist and then be using RGB or an analog signal.

[Anonymous No.6012260]

>>6012242
You're retarded.
Your TV uses red, green, and blue to display pictures. S-video color is encoded in a non-RGB color space. Therefore the TV must decode (i.e. process) the color signal.

[Anonymous No.6012289]

>>6012260
NTSC televisions use the NTSC colorspace which is not the same as RGB you retarded faggot.

[Anonymous No.6012302]

>>6012260
THE CONSOLE DOES THE CONVERTING. IF A CONSOLE OUTPUTS S-VIDEO (LUMA AND CHROMA) THE CONVERTING IS COMPLETE!!!!!! THE TV JUST DISPLAYS IT!!!!!! FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.6012305]

>>5988032
right is better

[Anonymous No.6012319]

>>6012289
>>6012302
Yeah, I just got done replacing the NTSC gun in my CRT which totally exists.

[Anonymous No.6012323]

>>6012289
So you're telling me that NTSC TV's don't use red green and blue electron guns?
Lol, how can people be this retarded
>>6012319
Thanks, someone here has half a brain.

[Anonymous No.6012327]

>>6012305
Are you trolling? Look at the green lines. They're not even lines on the right.

[Anonymous No.6012330]

>>6012327
Right is more soulful.

[Anonymous No.6012332]

>>6012327
not everybody likes the clean and sterile look of pure rgb.

[Anonymous No.6012335]

>>6012332
That's component video on the left
But yeah

[Anonymous No.6012340]

>>6012335
I'm aware, but as has been stated before component is not the same as RGB due to the chrome subsampling. It's like a more soulful form of RGB that can do HD resolutions.

[Anonymous No.6012342]

>>6012340
>bad component video is soulful
Wow, I'm impressed how far people will go.
That could be implemented with a shader in retroarch easily.

[Anonymous No.6012345]

>>6012342
It definitely could. Personally I use an s-video style shader in retroarch while running a high resolution integer of 240p. On a PC CRT of course.

[Anonymous No.6012351]

>>6012340
Chroma subsampling is an issue unique to the GameCube/Wii. PS2/Xbox component isn't subsampled, nor is the component you get from HD Retrovision cables or other external transcoders.

[Anonymous No.6012354]

>>6012351
I didn't think GC did it with the digital out cables. But I don't own one of those so I can't verify.
But yeah it's not inherent to YPbPr as a transmission medium.

[Anonymous No.6012361]

>>6012351
I was under the impression component signals were generally 4:2:2

[Anonymous No.6012372]

>>6012361
No; it can be but that depends on the digital source; such terminology is meaningless in YPbPr but can have meaning in YCbCr.

[Anonymous No.6012373]

>>6012372
That's interesting to know. Wouldn't it still apply to ypbpr though since the signal is going to be digital at some point?

[Anonymous No.6012374]

>>6012361
The digital equivalent of YPbPr usually is because people wanted to save space/bandwidth. For a game console it doesn't make sense in most cases. Maybe FMV cutscenes are stored in 4:2:2.

[Anonymous No.6012375]

I pulled an RCA CRT Television F19432 (no remote) out of the recycling bin at work today. I'm trying it with my super famicom and I can't get video to show up no matter what channel I try. Does anyone have any ideas or should I trash the TV?

[Anonymous No.6012376]

>>6012354
It does. The external frame buffer is in 4:2:2 YCbCr, which is what gets sent to the digital video port. The official component cables don't even do any chroma filtering/interpolation, so edges end up looking kind of messy. But that's a blessing in disguise for GBI, which abuses that fact to align the chroma phase and effectively restore full chroma resolution for Game Boy games.

[Anonymous No.6012378]

>>6012373
No.
Some SNESes generate YPbPr internally, but they generate it from analogue RGB input (The input is already analogue at that point).

[Anonymous No.6012382]

>>6012375
Abandon hope or give us more information on what it is doing instead of what you want.

[Anonymous No.6012385]

>>6012382
Static screen and audio on all channels.

[Anonymous No.6012387]

>>6012385
>>6012375
This is a SFC, so you'd want channel 95 if it's a US TV.
You could alternately desolder the RF modulator and pop in one from an american SNES.

[Anonymous No.6012389]

>>6012375
Are you in the US? Japanese consoles use the equivalent of US channels 95 or 96. If the SFC's RF modulator has a trim pot you might be able to get it low enough to display on US channel 6.

[Anonymous No.6012390]

>>6012385
gib pics of the way it's set up

[Anonymous No.6012396]

>>6012387
other alternative:
Composite out to american VCR, tune TV to channel 3. Set VCR to show the composite input.

[Anonymous No.6012401]

>>6012389
>>6012396
>>6012387
Thanks for the suggestions. Its a US TV. Channels loop around back to 0 at 69. I'm connected through composite for now. RF is a good idea, same with the VCR. I should have an RF adapter from my original back in the 90s somewhere. I might have to hunt for a VCR.

>>6012390
See picture. SFC works with other TVs (flatscreen) and a different CRT that has other issues.

[Anonymous No.6012404]

>>6012401
I used an RCA->F-connector adapter. A switch box might cause issues since it's not operating on the channel 3 an american snes switch box expects.
A manual switch box with the actual sliding switch might be good though.

[Anonymous No.6012407]

>>6012401
You need to change the input. Sometimes they will scroll to the right input if you channel down below 2.

[Anonymous No.6012409]

>>6012407
this

[Anonymous No.6012426]

>>6012407
>>6012409
I switched from Air to Cable and then tried channels 90-99 and 1-10, getting static on all channels. I guess the next step is to remove the back and look for damage to the connectors?

[Anonymous No.6012438]

>>6012426
you still don't have a way to get to composite input?
Try using a remote I guess.

[Anonymous No.6012462]

>>6012426
Air to cable just changes the tuning sensitivity and how many channels to go through for auto channel detect.

You still need to find a way to change to composite input

[Anonymous No.6012467]

>>6012462
>>6012438
Thanks. I understand what you guys are saying now.

The other CRT I have needs a remote to work so I guess I'll just buy one for this one too.

[Anonymous No.6012475]

>>6012467
If you can get it to go through auto channel guide programming in the setup menu with the console on it might work.

[Anonymous No.6012486]

>>6012467
If you have a cable box then try the remote for that. They're generally universal except the new fangled ones. A home theater receiver's remote might work too if it's a universal one.

[Anonymous No.6012519]

>>6012319
>>6012323
Ah yes, the electron gun that fires digital ones and zeroes at liquid crystals that respond with a digital value of color. Pure digital RGB on a CRT!

[Anonymous No.6012737]

This is some funny bait to be honest. This guy must be actually retarded to convincingly act so retarded.

[Anonymous No.6012763]

>>6012737
/vr/ seems awfully shitpost-y as of late

[Anonymous No.6012765]

>>6012737
Which post?

[Anonymous No.6012770]

>>6012763
It's because retro games are becoming really popular and we're getting /v/ posters. I hope you didn't like level headed discussions cause those are going to become a lot more rare as time goes on.

[Anonymous No.6012869]

>>6011959
>>6012104
Here's the best I could do. First up is RGB.

[Anonymous No.6012870]

>>6012869
And here's S-Video. This one came out looking weirdly red; I think some of that is the TV's settings and some of it is just my camera being uncooperative. Can't be bothered to try redoing it.

[Anonymous No.6012872]

>>6012870
And just for the hell of it, here's a really shitty third-party S-Video cable from early 2000s GameStop. Don't buy cheap cables, kids.

[Anonymous No.6013528]

>>6012486
>>6012475
Thanks for the help guys. I got a universal remote and was able to switch the input that way.

[Anonymous No.6014474]

Someone’s selling a PVMeme 2030 in my area for the low reasonable price of $350. Would be a shame if someone lowballs him.

[Anonymous No.6015218]

Started an FFVI playthrough last night. My phone usually sucks at taking pics, but I got some decent ones.

>>6014474
I've seen this one popping up for at least 4 or 5 months now. He might take a lowball at this point.

[Anonymous No.6015220]

>>6015218

[Anonymous No.6015225]

>>6015220
I know that feel, Sabin.

[Anonymous No.6015228]

>>6015225

[Anonymous No.6015230]

>>6015228
Chocobo stable guy reminds me of Yugi's grandpa, now.

[Anonymous No.6015236]

>>6015230
This one came out best. The color pallette of the desert doesn't fuck the auto focus up as much.

[Anonymous No.6016827]

>>6015236
Thicc scanlions. What tube?