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>> No.5960586

can you explain it for retards like me. thank

>> No.5960642

>>5960580
It's not, because we still don't have a CRT emulator. I'll just ditch my CRT when there's an line doubler with CRT simulation.

>> No.5960646

>>5960586
It doubles the lines of the input received so it can upscale stuff. It's the best way to upscale images, because you don't lose quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHoOKLWIMKU

>> No.5960671

No, it’s for faggots.

>> No.5961924

>>5960580
A lot of signals don't work well with it, it's hardly considered universal

>> No.5961926

>>5960642
>I'll get rid of my crt for emulated scan lines
kys

>> No.5961930

Upgrade it to 0.84 poopyhead

>> No.5961947

>>5960580
How much does a legit one cost?
In that form factor with that engineering level, I'm guessing about $80USD.

>> No.5962030

>>5961947
more like $190USD

>> No.5963159

>>5961926
CRTs are not just about scanlines.

>> No.5963164

>>5960642
LCD is still slow, you'll never get the fluidity of a CRT, the lag less motion, the scalable resolutions, the colors, the black levels, the contrast.

>> No.5963893

>>5960580
It's not retro.
Other than that, sure, it's handy if you're a flatscreen fag

>> No.5963906

>>5963164
You can get the black levels/colors/contrast if you still have a plasma TV.
Some used the exact same phosphor.
The rest of the points may be valid. I am a fan of proper CRT's myself because I have some nice ones and they cost much less than an OSSC. The size doesn't bother me.

>> No.5963908
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5963908

So I have a retarded question. I was using it for my PS2 but wanted to hook up my PS1 because it's modded, cept the cables I had, that said they where compatible very much weren't. So what sort of scart or component cables should I be looking at for a PS1.

>> No.5963961
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5963961

Unless you live in europe, I'd recommend not doing SCART.

But real answer:
If you have a launch playstation, use your PS2 component cable for RGB and use the composite video jack for sync. On my launch unit I replaced composite video with luma out, but that's only a slight improvement.
If you have a later playstation, either do what I did and add an RCA jack in some way or another (I didn't even bother grounding mine, since the monitors I have share ground between sync and the RGB lines), or spend money on a playstation RGB cable that uses luma for sync.

The only real difference between the PSX and PS2 is that PSX doesn't do sync on green.

>> No.5963968

It's an SCPH1001 if that helps. But even fitting the cable in the jack is a bit too snug.

>> No.5963980
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>>5963968
That's because of the construction of the cable. It's absolutely fine that it's snug. A lot more pins have to make contact with an RGB cable than a composite cable; you'll get used to it.

>> No.5963983

>>5963968
and good, the 1001 means you can get sync via the RCA jack and not have to deal with anything else.

>> No.5963984

>>5963983
(except the disc drive when it breaks)

>> No.5964003

>>5963983
>>5963980
Well then I don't know why I can't get a picture. Cable works perfect with the PS2.

>> No.5964004

>>5960580
Does it still have shit deinterlacing?

>> No.5964006

>>5964003
You're using composite video for sync?
What are you displaying this on? (what screen? Are you using a scaler?)

>> No.5964021

>>5964006
Im just running my PS1 through a scart (this one here) >>5963908

right on my sony bravia with the OSSC. Nothing else.

>> No.5964037

>>5964021
Ah, well I don't know if OSSC likes composite video sync. I've never owned one.
It also might require decoupling capacitors on the RGB lines, but I somewhat doubt that's the issue.
Is the red LED on? Apparently that means unstable sync.

Also apparently the OSSC isn't 100% HDMI compliant, just close. Can you see if it works on another TV?

>> No.5964038

>>5964037
P.S. going to bed now. Will try to remember to check in in a few hours. Or less time than that if I can't sleep.

>> No.5964047

>>5964037
>Can you see if it works on another TV?

It works on an old set with the composite and s cables so the system is probably fine

>> No.5964050

>>5964047
I meant try plugging the OSSC into another HDMI screen.

>> No.5964062

>>5964050
Well it works with every other system I toss at it is the thing, so I know it works.

>> No.5964574

It's probably the solution that makes the most sense for the most people, right now. Any decent 4K set will display every mode, and decent 4K sets can be had pretty affordably these days.

It's not the same as having a CRT, but honestly, people on this board who rage at anyone who doesn't play games on a 14" PVM will tell you that interlace content is like, unplayable via ossc.. because they're retarded, or haven't seen one running since 2016. That's pretty much it.

It's way fucking cheaper than a PC that could emulate up to 6th gen stuff worth a shit, and for how inexpensive it is to get any of those consoles these days you may as well just use original hardware, plugged into one of these

>> No.5964760

It's not retro hardware because it was made after 1999.

>> No.5964812

>>5963164
Fuccckkk is this true?
Why don’t more companies start making CRTs? Seems like it would serve a nice niche market
Maybe in a few years when all CRTs are in the trash can or stop working

>> No.5964847

>>5964812
Because it would cost tens of billions of dollars to get the factory lines up and running and again. Not to mention the cost of the raw materials to make the sets would make them unaffordable to anyone but their intended market. Tv studios. There’s a reason why they cost $30k brand new, they were expensive to manufacture. You’re more likely to see entire human race unite and start singing kumbaya and develop a rocket to get to Mars before Sony or any other player in the market gets back into tube production. Shit just isn’t happening. Ever.

>> No.5964863

Maybe modernized CRTs if it's possible to trim the internals with modern components but making those vacuum tubes were no easy feat.

>> No.5964875

>>5964812
Yes it is true, when you get a CRT monitor and play a game you're used to and see it in motion it really shows how slow your 1ms 144Hz monitor actually is. Also great to watch movies, they seem more real to me.

>> No.5964879

>>5960580
Once it has a deinterlacing that does not suck ass, maybe I'll consider calling it good.

>> No.5964889 [DELETED] 

>>5964875
>play a game
18+ website

>> No.5964896

>>5963908
The PS1 doesn't support component out, but it does do RGB. It's the PS2 that does component out, including while running PS1 games.

>> No.5964901

>>5963906
>You can get the black levels/colors/contrast if you still have a plasma TV.

If you use the OSSC with a plasma TV, chances are you won't get anything other than line2x mode supported, since OSSC just blasts random signals instead of industry standard HDMI ones.
So 640x480 max resolution in 4:3 aspect. If a console uses a resolution that is more than that when multiplied (for ex. PSX), it will get stretched unevenly and will look pretty ugly, especially on dither patterns. Line3x, 4x, 5x would fix that simply by having an input sampling so big that it hides the problem, but those don't work right on an old plasma. You can get around this if the tv has a VGA input, by using a hdmi to vga converter, but then you have to route audio separately, and most hdmi to vga converters are junk. Except for a few expensive models but that means dropping $100 more for a HD Fury Nano.

Also plasma tvs tend to need regassing nowadays to have the same picture quality as they originally did unless you find one that was seldom used. Or in the case of the last & greatest Panasonic Plasmas, you need a special device to fix the black levels (PMCV2).

>> No.5964903

>>5964812
Hint: gamers who want CRTs are an incredibly niche market.

>> No.5964907

>>5964037
>don't know if OSSC likes composite video sync.

It works perfectly fine with it, I'm using my Saturn with the factory original scart cables and it works fine. In fact it works better than the third party cables that have composite sync - those are almost always off-centre and have so much audio buzzing.

>> No.5964917

>>5964574
>people on this board who rage at anyone who doesn't play games on a 14" PVM will tell you that interlace content is like, unplayable via ossc.. because they're retarded, or haven't seen one running since 2016

I've seen one PVM in my life. Interlaced 480i games are completely fucked on OSSC. They use that default bob deinterlace which will turn your eyes into scrambled eggs after half an hour, or give you an epilepsy attack if you are susceptible to it.

Just imagine the entire screen shaking up and down one pixel at 60 frames a second, CONSTANTLY. It's unbearable. The only silver lining is that you can set the thing to bypass 480i and only process 240p, so you can let your TV deinterlace the signal, which gives you deinterlace artifacts but at least doesn't destroy your eyes.

>> No.5964919

>>5964917
The reason it does the bob deinterlace is that it doesn't introduce any additional delay, while everything else requires a framebuffer and time. So you can use it and get a worse image with faster inputs, or cut it out of the loop, let your TV give you a generally more pleasing image and just take the delay. It's choices.

>> No.5964920

>>5964847
>You’re more likely to see entire human race unite and start singing kumbaya and develop a rocket to get to Mars before Sony or any other player in the market gets back into tube production.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, a few years back they had to start making cassette tapes again because demand peaked so high due to the retro hipsters. Granted that's not the same thing cause magnetic tapes are still used today as high-end data storage. But I'd still say that it's more likely for Sony to start making CRTs again, than for world peace & Mars terraforming to begin.

Only marginally more likely, though.

>> No.5964925

>>5964920
They're not super comparable since tape production never fully stopped, and neither did player mechanism production. You also can't get any good quality cassettes or players these days, those are all old stock or used items. Those two things are also much, much simpler than the full supply chains of CRT manufacture.

>> No.5964947

I'm glad the OSSC exists because before that, the only real upscaling solution for old games on modern displays was the overpriced framemeister.
But having said that, I don't think I'll ever use one, because any old curbside CRT will still be better and with much less hassle and headache than an upscaling and using a flat-panel. I get it if people just want one living room gaming setup with everything old and new hooked up to the same TV, but I think it's just superior to have a separate setup for standard def content.

>> No.5965020

>>5964920
Cassette tapes/decks are much simpler machines to both manufacture and own. CRT's are complicated, expensive to make, and depending on the size extremely bulky, heavy and basically require an entire section of the room to themselves. These are the reasons they went out of style in the first place and in a world where we're on the edge of having tv's that are essentially just wallpaper to be applied to the wall we're never getting more CRT's made. Our best hope is that someone produces more inexpensive plasma displays with reduced screen burn in or something

>> No.5965064

>>5963159
Crt don't have scanlines. It's the improper video format that makes them. I've considered linedoubling to feed back to a crt to remove the trash.

>> No.5965071

>>5965064
>CRTs don't create an image by scanning the screen in lines.

I'll have what he's smoking.

>> No.5965080

>>5964863
Realistically there's nothing modern that isn't in a crt from the 90s. Capacitors and resistors are pretty much the same, though the ICs could probably be combined into 1 package.

>> No.5965086

>>5965071
That's not what people commonly refer to as scanlines, they are talking about the blank black lines. Don't play dumb, it's too easy to see through.

>> No.5965096

>>5965086
Those exist on all CRTs too.

One is not possible without the other.

>> No.5965101

>>5965086
scanlines exist in 480i as well. It's just that they alternate and are harder to see. Sharper monitors with higher TV line count make it more visible.

>> No.5965112

I have an OSSC and I like it overall. I don't mind playing games on a modern TV and it works with PC CRTs if I care about that.

>> No.5965116

Is there a version of the OSSC that can do composite and s-video? I know the retrotink exists, but I'd rather just have one scaler that takes care of all input formats.

>> No.5965118

For third, fourth and fifth gen consoles I fine it easier and superior to just emulate on a nice oled display (I have an lg c8) via retroarch, with a nice crt shader like CRT-Royale (or some ntsc shader for component/rf emulation if you're into that) with runahead enable to bring input delay down to CRT levels

You get the perfect blacks and color accuracy of a CRT, at 4k you can pretty much recreate any CRT look you want with autistic levels of accuracy, and runahead removes the input delay issue that emulation tends to come with. Plus you dont have to deal with the wonky geometry issues that plague almost every CRT out there

The only outlier is N64 because I dont believe theres an emulator out there that can handle runahead without slowdown.

>> No.5965129

>>5964917
You're a moron. Interlacing on an OSSC looks exactly the fucking same as interlacing on a CRT. I know because I currently have both sitting right next to each other and have compared them directly. If anything the OSSC is slightly less flickery due to the longer persistence of the LCD panel.

>> No.5965239

>>5965116
You might be able to make your own, but otherwise no.

>> No.5965534

>>5964917

Bro.. I don't need to "imagine", I have one, and I use it with 480i stuff on a regular basis. The flickering isn't that bad, and with alternating scanlines turned on it's not that different from how it feels on a CRT.

>> No.5965719

>>5963961
>use your PS2 component cable for RGB and use the composite video jack for sync.
how do you handle the lack of caps on the rgb-lines?
>>5963908
ps2-rgb-scart-cable usually have no caps, because in the ps2 they're in the console.
the ps1 didn't, it had the caps in its rgb-scart-cable.

>> No.5965737

>>5965719
Ignore him, he's just some crazy retard who insists that people should hack up their consoles and turn them into hot glue monstrosities instead of using readily-available SCART cables for their SCART upscalers.

>> No.5966367

>>5965129
>You're a moron. Interlacing on an OSSC looks exactly the fucking same as interlacing on a CRT.

No because the phosphor afterglow hides most of the interlacing, while on a digital lcd/plasma panel you can clearly see the lines flickering.

>> No.5966383

>>5966367
Even on my shitty Zenith CRT the flickering is just as noticeable as it is with the OSSC, if not more so.

>> No.5966384

Wait, these things are over $100?
How? Audiophile-type faggotry?

>> No.5966616

>>5966384
>Wait, these things are over my allowance?
Zoom

>> No.5966635

>>5966384
Best at what it does. The Retrotink is considered the poor man's version and it's still 100+

>> No.5966667

>>5960580
i have an old xrgb-3 with a dead ac adapter. would it be worthwhile upgrading to one of these?

>> No.5966669

>>5966616
>>5966635
That's nowhere near $100 of materials and design though. You could do better yourself with a breadboard and some EE work.

>> No.5966672

>>5966667
Why not just get a new AC adapter?

>> No.5966675

>>5966669
Do it, then. If you can do better for less I'm sure plenty of people would buy yours instead.

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5966709

>>5966669
>and some EE work.

>> No.5966712

>>5966669
There's a barebones kit you can buy as well that's a lot cheaper if you feel like making your own.

>> No.5966897

>no 240p/480i switching

>> No.5966969
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>>5966712
But then anon would have to do "EE work"

>> No.5967740

>>5966384
>Wait, these things are over $100
the fpga alone is ~$30

>> No.5967743

>>5966897

Confirmed retard who's never owned one or seen one running

>> No.5968096

>>5967740
Top kek kid

>> No.5968128

>>5968096
oof, yeah, fuck me, it's at ~23 now, big mistake.
~8 for the adc, 15-20 for the hdmi-chip which you can't get individually here without a license, so you have to use aliexpress or similar.
plus display (another 10er), plus all the other passive parts chickenshit, plus pcb, plus the case-plates, plus connectors and buttons, screws, heatsinks, spacers n sheet.
Of course you'd still have to solder and assemble it.

But hey, if you sell them for 100$, I want 10.

>> No.5968150

>>5960642
We need OLED to take off and become Standard for everything.

>> No.5968159

Anyone who has one played with custom scanlines much?

Preferred mode for 240p? I was doing x5 @ 1600x1200 pretty much exclusively until I updated to .84. I like the way vertical + horizontal scanline mode looks, but it feels like the lines are more in the right place on x3 and 4. My thinking is custom SL could give a really good appearance on x5 but I just haven't been motivated yet to sperg out for a couple hours tinkering with it.

Also, protip - if you're not already using upsample x2 for 480px2, turn that shit on. Can't believe I was playing DC without it for as long as I was, instant massive improvement.

>> No.5968179

>>5968159
PC monitors never had this problem

Lottes and XM29 emulates it well but the later was never ported to .fx format

>> No.5968209

>>5968159
3x but I have a 4k OLED.

>> No.5968435

>>5968128
>when you back-peddle so hard you off and kidsplain it all
Top kek kid

>> No.5968640

>>5968159
I usually do 3X with some lower percentage horizontal scanlines since 5X tends to cut off some of the picture. Holy shit the firmware is at .84? I'm still running .78a.

>> No.5968656

>>5960580
That looks ghetto as fuck. They didn't even bother to enclose the plastic housing. Please tell me how much you wasted on a simple upscaler.

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>>5968179
I like lottes when Im using MAME but with the newer firmwares, the ossc can give results I find to be pretty much as good. Pic related

>> No.5968718

>>5967743
The switch takes forever and is in no way comparable to a CRT. Chrono Cross is completely unplayable on an OSSC.

>> No.5968754
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5968754

>>5968718
You're thinking of the Framemeister, not the OSSC.

>> No.5968910

>>5961924
Such as? I know there was a problem with certain SNES models in the old firmware, but it was never a show stopper, just the auto detection didn't always work. I've found that everything I try works, just sometimes I need to mess with the filters or the sampling a bit to make it stable. A bigger problem is that by design it has to output the same frequency as the input so I imagine most people's problem is not the OSSC, it's that their TV can't take 60.1Hz or 59.4Hz or 49.7Hz, etc. If you want to take a wonky input signal and output HDMI compliant 59.94Hz then you need a framemeister and you'll just have to live with the frame stutter.

>> No.5968915

>>5964004
Yes, because it's not really an upscaler, it's a scan convertor. It's for getting the lowest input lag you can get, and ALL deinterlacing HAS TO introduce at least 1 frame of lag. So the recommendation has always been if you want good image quality, pass the interlaced signal through to your TV.
The OSSC's de-interlacer is a specialist thing that is for either:
1) Low latency where you'd rather have minimum input lag instead of a stable clear picture (bob deinterlacing is an acquired taste)
2) Or for fixing problems like you get with the gamecube or 3DO where the output *should* have been 240p, but the game is using 480i and in this case bob-deinterlacing effectively recovers a perfect 240p out of an incorrect 480i.
For the OSSC to get good deinterlacing it would have to have a full frame buffer and a processor capable of doing multi-frame reconstruction in realtime. It wouldn't be faster than a good TV and it would just raise the cost significantly.

>> No.5968917

>>5964037
This may sound patronising, but are you using the correct input? There are actually 3 modes for AV1, 2 for AV2, and I can't remember for AV3. RGBS and RGsB are not automatic, they are different inputs on the remote.
Also, quite often CSync cables aren't CSync, they are a dodgy tap off of composite video so you'll need to use the Low Pass Filter to try and strip as much noise as you can.

>> No.5968920

>>5964901
>Also plasma tvs tend to need regassing nowadays to have the same picture quality as they originally did
I feel like I'm going to get whooshed here, but there's no such thing. Loss of picture quality on plasma has more to do with the ageing phosphors and "regassing" would do little EVEN IF IT WERE ACTUALLY POSSIBLE.

>> No.5968931

>>5966669
Strange as it may seem, people don't like running a mail order business for cost. Especially on niche products like this where you don't expect to sell huge numbers you NEED to be selling them for THREE TIMES your cost. That will account for your taxes, overheads, accounting, personal time and most importantly helps you deal with the fact that you'll wake up every morning to an inbox full of angry gamers pissed off that they can't make this technical device work on their setup and think their 200EUR entitles them to remote support.

>> No.5968949

>>5968931
This, it's the unfortunate reality of dealing with all of these nicer products geared towards the retro market. Outlets like Hyperkin do an okay job of providing base level products on a commercial scale but any of the good stuff, like high quality reproduction AV cables or external scalers or anything similarly enthusiast in intent? That's going to cost you just by the nature of being a big investment into a small market.
Though that's also why you've got companies like Pound springing up, trying to split the difference between quality and consumer availability. While a touch too new for /vr/, I use one of their HDMI cables for my Xbox and I have to say, the results are stunning. With external power the image is noise-free and it supports every resolution I can coax this system into outputting without missing a beat.

>> No.5968963

>>5968920
b-b-but teh youtube told me i need to give much jew gold for this. It can't possibly be a scam.

>>5968931
This is why I don't do work for plebs. That it gives me time to shitpost is just an added perk.

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>>5968673
Dosbox ECE Supports reshade, im trying to find a good separate config for all DOS Wing Commander games

>> No.5969094

>>5960580
Not retro

>> No.5969101

>>5969093
All games output prior to WC3 were 320x200 but finding a good one to fit well is annoying.
Also the fact that Retroarch hates its own Dosbox fork

>> No.5969123

>>5960586
It's a line doubler that retarded faggots attempt to convince themselves and others is actually an upscaler because they are too poor to afford a Framemeister.

>> No.5969256

>>5969123
>too poor to afford a Framemeister.
Too poor to add frames of lag anyway. What a time to be alive.

>> No.5969336

>>5969256
>plays old games on an LCD
>worried about lag
lol you dumb bastard

>> No.5969346

>>5969336
>assumes
You're a butt.
Anyway, I play on both, but classics belong on CRT. Got my own arcade too.

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5969482

>>5969336

>> No.5969749

>>5968656
ossc is no upscaler

>> No.5969752

>>5968910
>I know there was a problem with certain SNES models in the old firmware
got nothing to do with firmware but weirdness in the snes- and nes-hardware. (look up dejitter)

>> No.5969756

>>5969123
>>5969749
Nearest neighbor scaling is still scaling. And no one wants a Framemeister in 2019 anyway, even if it were cheaper.

>> No.5969758

>>5969749
yes it is. line-doubling/tripling is a form of upscaling by its very definition.

>> No.5969853

>>5969756
>And no one wants a Framemeister in 2019 anyway,
enjoying your interlaced sources with ossc much?

>> No.5969896

>>5969853
Yes, just as much as I do on my CRTs.

>> No.5969920

>>5963961
>that crisp screen
jelly

>> No.5970030

>>5969756
>And no one wants a Framemeister in 2019 anyway
Spoken like a true poorfag.

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>>5970030
Damn, you got me. How will I ever recover?

>> No.5971118

>>5968915
there isn't any such thing as good deinterlacing. Even watching framemeister footage of 480i, I can still see tons of rippling and general bullshit instability that I get with my shit monoprice chinese knockoff scaler.

>> No.5971263

>>5963961
what in the fuck is that composite cable doing lol

>> No.5971406

>>5963961
What's the blue thing in the parallel port of the left playstation?

>> No.5971479

>>5963961
that's one of the most niggered things I've seen in a while. Some of you guys are okay, don't come to Midgard section one tomorrow.

>> No.5971692

>>5971118
There is good de-interlacing but it's only in broadcast grade video equipment and ridiculously expensive for the most part
However, it's good to keep in mind because sometimes you see this kinda hardware go for the low, low price of "get-it-the-fuck-outta-here". Those are literally once in a lifetime moments though.

>> No.5971896

>>5971406
makeshift-cover, obviously
>>5971263
sync for the ps1-rgb-over-ps2-component-cable-bodge.
can't make that up lol.

>> No.5972049

>>5971692
and I'm sure it has input lag out the ass.

>> No.5972987

>>5963164
>you'll never get the fluidity
This was true in like 2010
I love CRT and have them laying around everywhere but this is objectively false

>> No.5973004

>>5969336
>implying my OSSC is hooked up to an LCD

>> No.5973059

The best way to play 240p games on an OSSC is line 3x with scanlines and hybrid scanlines.

>> No.5973090

I have several CRTs so I've never felt the need to bother with an OSSC. However I might consider getting one when a version that's 4K compatible is made. Since 3840p is an even 16x scale of 240p, it would bypass a lot of the issues with upscaling to 1080p.

>> No.5973823

>>5973004
>pretending my OSSC isn't hooked up to an LCD

>> No.5973828

I prefer my crt but i'm glad you found something that works for you

>> No.5974339

>>5965737
>SCART upscalers.
Gross

>> No.5974340

>>5972987
What he said is objectively true. What you said is objectively false. And sell your CRTs to someone with taste instead of wasting them

>> No.5974397

>>5973090
4K is not 3840p

>> No.5974404

>>5974397
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#Resolutions

>> No.5974417

>>5974404
>2160p
Are you fucking with me?

>> No.5974458

>>5974417
whatever, 3840x2160

>> No.5975696

Is there anyone who uses one of these with an OLED who can comment on motion handling/color/black levels?

I'd prefer to have 1 TV to do everything but my OSSC and LED is just... it's not really a CRT replacement yet, mainly because motion is so much better on the CRT. If I could sell off my current flat panel and feel good about paying the difference for something that's gonna be practical and look good with everything, I'd go for it and let someone else have the crt

>> No.5976269

>>5975696
It looks great but the OLED isn't quite bright enough to play with heavy scanlines in the day time. I have an LG OLED and it works with every setting except LineX4 which I'd never use anyways. SNES works as well.

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I really wish I could fit a CRT in my apartment but I can't even find good CRTs around here that aren't RF only or composite garbage. I hope whenever I move out I'll have enough room and will just use the OSSC for capture card purposes.

I made a good amount of money gambling not too long ago so I ended up going a little crazy getting a bunch of modern accessories for retro games. I probably went too crazy but it was a drop in the bucket ultimately. I got an OSSC + two gcompsw + a ton of HD retrovision cables. Anything else I should get? I might as well since I'm going crazy now and probably don't want to be bothered with it later.

I haven't had a chance to really mess around with the stuff outside of a few tests, I've mostly been stuck traveling for business. How would I update the firmware for the OSSC?

tl;dr any other modern devices I should get for retro games?

>> No.5977867

>>5970073
The geometry of the CRT is fucked.

>> No.5977902

>>5960580
mine is a right pain in the ass to use and the menu makes no sense. basically if it doesn't just 'werk' out of the box you are fucked. for the price it's a bit shit.

>> No.5977908

>>5977902
The menu makes perfect sense. Unfortunately for you, it just makes the assumption that you're not retarded.

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>>5977908
say it in real life faggot not on the internet see what happens

>> No.5978835

>>5977902
next firmware-version will get an OSD, maybe that will help folks like you