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Castlevania didn't get good until they became exploration open-ended platformers

>> No.5811481

OP is straight and makes good threads

>> No.5811487

>>5811472
SotN is the only great entry in the series. Bloodlines is good, the rest are shades of mediocre.

>> No.5811507

OP has good taste.

>> No.5811582

i prefer the pc engine library over the genesis

(it has a bunch of sega ports anyway)

>> No.5811669
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>>5811472
Rondo of Blood was good, buteven it was blown out of the water by SOTN.
As for an unpopular opinion, Megaman X4 was better than X1

>> No.5811683

>>5811472
Yea, nothing being so broke for ideas that you have to copy Super Metroid.

>> No.5811692

>>5811472

Catlevania was never good.

>> No.5811708

>>5811472
Castlevania didn't get bad until they became open platformers. Metroid's amazing, but no Metroidvania ever matched it or its linear predecessors.

>> No.5811715

>>5811683
It copied alttp actually.

>> No.5811718

>>5811715
nay, Zelda II (which was already similar to Simon's Quest).

>> No.5811763

Donkey kong 64 was amazing and possessed SOUL
A link between worlds is objectively better than a link to the past
Majoras mask is on par with Ocarina of time
Metroid prime is better than Super metroid
Zelda 2 deserves its own spinoff series of zelda
Mario 64 is better than super mario world and super mario bros 3, possibly combined
Pokemon crystal is better than pokemon yellow
Diddy kong racing is better than newer mario karts
Quake 2 is better than Doom 1 and maybe even Doom 2
Doom 3 is better than Doom2016
Xbox is retro every other day
Morrowind>Oblivion>Skyrim=Daggerfall
Banjo-tooie>Banjo-kazooie
Gameboyadvance is retro
Nintendo is the best video game company
Wii u was cool
Wii is a perfect video game console
Gamecube control is nice
Sony's best controller is ps1 dual shock
Video games should be remade every few years and include originals as unlocks.

>> No.5811793

>>5811763
OP asked for unpopular opinions not retarded opinions

>> No.5811974

Video games should reach higher artistry similar to movies
Mini consoles are a worthy investment for people trying to learn about a system's library
The entirety of the Zelda franchise is boring
I never got into Mario, not even the RPG
Parasite Eve is not that great, definitely not worth talking about every week
Metroid deserves the position Mario is in and should be considered a better franchise than Zelda
Super Smash is just a boring Nintendo power fantasy
Resident Evil 1 is the best RE game ever made
Earthbound is the best JRPG ever made

>> No.5812028

>>5811763
>A link between worlds is objectively better than a link to the past
A Link Between Worlds is hideous garbage that taints what's left of the series legacy after Skyward Sword trashed it.
>Pokemon crystal is better than pokemon yellow
Who cares. How old are you?
>Diddy kong racing is better than newer mario karts
No, and it's not even close.
>Morrowind>Oblivion>Skyrim=Daggerfall
Okay, but they're all atrocious fantasies for tasteless nerds who don't notice or care if a game looks and plays like it was made by Napoleon Dynamite teamed up with a Ukrainian hacker.
>Wii is a perfect video game console
To set up in an old folks' home for some imaginary bowling.
>Sony's best controller is ps1 dual shock
DS4 would be much better if it were wired, but judging from the rest of your comments I doubt the latency aspect has anything to do with why you hold your dumb opinion.
>Video games should be remade every few years and include originals as unlocks.
Why? They're almost always worse than the original. Success rate has to be less than 1% at this point.

>> No.5812046

>>5811472
AoS and HoD are better than SoTN

>> No.5812056

>>5811763
Every thing u said was true except link between world's
(I haven't played it but as a Nintendo faggot nothing's better than the SNES)

>> No.5812094
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>>5811472
Earthbound is the most overrated game of the 16-bit era by far. It is a below average RPG at best.

>> No.5812103

>>5812094
GTFO outta here. Nothings better than the snes
And eb is the best rpg on the snes

>> No.5812104

>>5811472
Emulation is superior to original hardware for any console prior to 5th gen.

>> No.5812120 [DELETED] 
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All the black people in the United States should be deported back to Africa.

>> No.5812128

>>5812120
This

>> No.5812154

>>5812056
What a maroon.

>> No.5812158
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5812158

The United States should have allied with Nazi Germany in 1941 to help them defeat the Soviet Union.

>> No.5812163

>>5811487
What makes Bloodlines better than the others?

>> No.5812167

>>5811715
>>5811718
Alttp and SM are basically the same game anyways aside from theme and topdown vs sidescroll

>> No.5812168

>>5812163
Perfect length for a jumpyvania, incredible great aesthetic, non-bullshit enemy placement.

>> No.5812171

>>5812163
It's on the Genesis.

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>>5812168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjdVflSHxN4

>> No.5812247

>>5812213
Genesis truly has the best soundtracks.

>> No.5812287

>>5812056
I agree, I was hasty with that one, lttp is better, albw just capitalizes on my nostalgia for that game.
>>5811793
next
>>5812028
Skyward sword is amazing.
Who cares. How young are you?
>Not only is Diddy kong racing better than all the mario karts, but banjo pilot needs remade in the third dimension with polygons and jazz.
You just don't like a good ole western fantasy romp is all.
Wii U is even better but that's just if you want to add those lists of games to the already perfect Wii.
The only thing dumber than my opinion has to be you liking DS4 and wanting anything more than a long charge cable.
>More time should be spent perfecting the newest entries so as to not lose what makes the original great, obviously, the point is to keep the same amazing game concurrent with today's tech.

>>5811974
>>Video games should reach higher artistry similar to movies
Eventually they should? lol. Retro games aren't old enough yet.
>>I never got into Mario, not even the RPG
Facts.
>>Super Smash is just a boring Nintendo power fantasy
You mean Metroid is a boring female empowerment fantasy? ha hur har, sexism..
Zelda does seem to be a bit slow as I get older though. I'm hoping they throw a crossover at us eventually.
>>5812094
Nice. I mean, it's neat but it can't be one of the greatest of its genre just because it's like an acid trip, can it?
>>5812104
Having everyone under one roof is the best thing ever, heres to hoping Nintendo release a legacy console and don't charge an arm and leg for it!
>>5812167
Wouldn't it be cool to do another sidescrolling Zelda, and do a top down Metroid?
>>5812247
Fight me irl

>> No.5812772

>>5812158
Based on the notion Nazi Germany needed that help to begin with?
The USSR was in no state to fight, and the Nazis found plenty of help from within the USSR from ethnic groups willing to help Hitler destroy the USSR.

If America wouldn't have gotten involved and never practiced any land lease, that would've been enough for Nazi Germany to win.

>> No.5812796

>>5811472
>>5811669
I'm pretty sure those are popular opinions.

>> No.5814712

>>5811763
>Metroid prime is better than Super metroid
>Doom 3 is better than Doom2016
this is so true

>> No.5814998

>>5811974
>Video games should reach higher artistry similar to movies
This mode of thinking is how we got a deluge of shitty walking simulators and pretentious indie games. Movies =\= games

>> No.5815002

Unpopular opinion: "Metroidvania" games suck, and SotN is bad even by the genre's standards.

>> No.5815018

>>5811472
>Symphony of the Night
>Symphony
>music is just smooth jazz
Why didn't they call it Easy Listening of the Night, or even Jazz Muzak of the Night?

>> No.5815024

>>5815018
The original japanese title is Gekka no Yasoukyoku, which translates to Nocturne in Moonlight.
I guess the western localization team thought "Symphony" was more badass than Nocturne, and "Night" more badass than "Moonlight".

>> No.5815239

I actually like CRT filters on emulators

>> No.5815254
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5815254

DĀKU METAMORUFUŌZE !!

>> No.5815562

>>5811472
What are you a retard?

>> No.5815576

>>5812287
>Skyward sword is amazing.
You're disgusting.

>> No.5815585

NES games and games that came before can still be fun.

>> No.5815638

>>5815576
I hope they rerelease or even remake the game. Yum.

>> No.5815698

>>5811763
>Donkey kong 64 was amazing and possessed SOUL
>Majoras mask is on par with Ocarina of time
>Metroid prime is better than Super metroid
>Zelda 2 deserves its own spinoff series of zelda
>Mario 64 is better than super mario world and super mario bros 3, possibly combined
>Diddy kong racing is better than newer mario karts
>Morrowind>Oblivion>Skyrim=Daggerfall
>Gameboyadvance is retro
>Nintendo is the best video game company
>Wii u was cool
My man.

>Doom 3 is better than Doom2016
>Xbox is retro every other day
>Banjo-tooie>Banjo-kazooie
>Wii is a perfect video game console
>Video games should be remade every few years and include originals as unlocks.
Nah.

>> No.5815703

>>5811763
i can't believe i agree 100% with this bait post

>> No.5815741

>unpopular
For any series that went through a BC/AD transition it's perfectly reasonable for someone to say "I don't like the old games that are different" or "I don't like the new games that are different" etc.
>>5811669
My little brother always liked the PS1 X titles and I always thought he was out of his mind.

>> No.5815905

>>5815703
My Man.
>>5815698
Oof, 60% is a decent hit.

>> No.5815919

>>5811472
Quality level design, sense of progression, and overall experience went out the window when they became that though.

>> No.5816513

>>5815919
Well there's no levels to begin with right. Progression feels fine; revisiting places and unlocking new paths give a different but arguably better sense of advancement, and collecting tons of useless junk covers the OCD angle better than traditional level-by-level design

>> No.5816528

>>5811763
Giant amounts of soi and autism in this post. Here's your (you).

>> No.5816549

>>5816513
>collecting tons of useless junk covers the OCD angle
Thank god it covers the OCD angle. Every good game has to cover the OCD angle, doesn't it? Graphics, music, fun factor, replayability, OCD angle. 10/10

>> No.5816586

>>5811472
Isn't Castlevania 2 on the NES an open ended platformer?
Isn't it generally considered shit?
>OP is a faggot and literally cannot stop sucking dick

>> No.5816589

>>5816513
>Well there's no levels to begin with right.
Level design doesn't need a traditional level progression system. Level design exists in the very design of every room in these games, and it also includes things like enemy and item placement. Because the player can and will sometimes need to enter a room from multiple different entrance points, the level design has to become "flatter" to compensate. There's way more interesting and challenging enemy and item placements in contract with the player's position in the pre-SOTN Castlevania games as a result (excluding 2).

>Progression feels fine
It's not nearly as satisfying because it's not nearly as funneled. It's more consistently enjoyable, I'll give it that, but when you iron out the lows you also iron out the highs.

>> No.5816649

Dragon Quest 5 is the last good game in the main series, every numbered entry after is mediocre or shit

>> No.5816754

>>5816528
Here's yourself Mister Too Afraid To Have Contrary Opinions.
Be more like >>5816649

>> No.5816773

>>5811472
The Genesis is a pretty terrible console, there is almost nothing worth playing on it outside of the Sonic games. SNES (and most other retro consoles) shit on it in every way. Blows my mind that so many people say it's one of their favorites. I say this as someone who grew up with a Genesis.

>> No.5816786

>>5811763
>Donkey kong 64 was amazing and possessed SOUL
Agreed
>A link between worlds is objectively better than a link to the past
Yikes
>Majoras mask is on par with Ocarina of time
It is, you can argue about which one is better
>Metroid prime is better than Super metroid
You're entitled to think that
>Zelda 2 deserves its own spinoff series of zelda
That would be cool
>Mario 64 is better than super mario world and super mario bros 3, possibly combined
Agreed
>Pokemon crystal is better than pokemon yellow
Agreed
>Diddy kong racing is better than newer mario karts
Possibly agreed
>Quake 2 is better than Doom 1 and maybe even Doom 2
Yikes
>Doom 3 is better than Doom2016
Ok
>Xbox is retro every other day
I think early 6th gen is maybe retro but not later 6th gen
>Morrowind>Oblivion>Skyrim=Daggerfall
Who cares it's all the same dumb Western shit anyway
>Banjo-tooie>Banjo-kazooie
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES
>Gameboyadvance is retro
See above
>Nintendo is the best video game company
Depends on how you define "best"
>Wii u was cool
Not really
>Wii is a perfect video game console
Double yikes
>Gamecube control is nice
Yeah
>Sony's best controller is ps1 dual shock
Ok
>Video games should be remade every few years and include originals as unlocks.
Yikes

>> No.5816792

>>5816773
You didn't look very hard for good games, then.

I grew up with an SNES, and I didn't discover some of my favorite games until emulators came out in the early 2000s.

>> No.5816801

>>5811472
I hate niggers I hate jews I hate spics and arabs too!

>> No.5816810

Graphic adventures have terrible gameplay. What makes them enjoyable is the setting and the writing.

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>>5816786
>I think early 6th gen is maybe retro but not later 6th gen
Finally someone gets it. Early 6th gen is bleeding into what one might consider retro and this is what gets people into arguments here about how this board is only wanting old video games in particular. Retro is the recent past imo.
>>Who cares it's all the same dumb Western shit anyway
That's some fun dumb western shit. You ever watch cowboys draw at each other in black and white? ahh shucks.
>FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES
Ahhh yeaa
>>Depends on how you define "best"
They're the most polished game-games for just chilling and immersing yourself into some dumb fun.
>Wii U isn't cool
sad_panda.jpeg
>>Double yikes
-_-
Remake the 'gems! rerelease retro games forward!

>>5816810
>See image

>> No.5818175

>>5812772
What a retard, go to /his/ and make them laugh.

>> No.5818648

There's a reason your opinion is unpopular.

>> No.5818691

>>5811472
The original Darkseed really had that Sam's Club aesthetic. Even the second one, did, actually even more so, now that I think more about it.