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I have ben trying to find a good let's play of Revenge of Shinobi but so many people cheat their way through the game with this? Why do so many people use this?

>> No.5727484

Has anyone ever made a cheat to play with no shurikens, which also disables shuriken pickups? I wanna play through the game like that.

>> No.5727495

I play with limited shuriken, but I farm a few lives in the airplane level in case I get fucked in the last level.

>> No.5727519

>>5727495
I play with 90 I don't farm lives.

>> No.5727569

>>5727481
Because some people have more fun when it's a bit easier to play the game. You seriously can't understand this? Are you into BDSM by any chance?

>> No.5727573

>>5727484
Try BMVT-0000 or BMVT-GA00

>> No.5727578

Oh and BMTT also I guess

>> No.5727802

>>5727484
There might be a game genie for that.

>> No.5727817

Breaking news: Some people are shit at videogames and prefer to cheat themselves out of the best experience rather than git gud. More at eleven.

>> No.5727854 [DELETED] 

>>5727817
I know but so many people just cheat at this game like they have to. I can't find any let's play where someone isn't cheating. The game loses a major part of it's strategy with that cheat.

>> No.5727858

>>5727481
because it makes the game easier

i only play Revenge with limited shurikens, but i play Shinobi III with the 6-button cheat

>> No.5727860

>>5727817
I know but so many people just cheat at this game like they have to. I can't find any let's play where someone isn't cheating. The game loses a major part of its strategy with that cheat.

>> No.5727879

>>5727481

Because it makes the game fun.

>> No.5727908
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5727908

Shinobi III is garbage.

>> No.5727910
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>> No.5727915
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>> No.5727976

>>5727915
>>5727910
>>5727908
Shinobi 3 is the best in the series.

>> No.5727986

>>5727495
How do you farm lives?

>> No.5728007

Why do you care how other people play a single-player game?

>> No.5728021

>>5727976
I genuinely cannot comprehend how someone can think Shinobi 3 was a bad game.

>> No.5728146

>>5728021
Same.

>> No.5728154

>>5728007
I don't but I just noticed it. Is the game unfair? A lot of people just seem to use infinite and I like to watch let's plays without the cheat.

>> No.5728160

>>5727986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpId0jrU_SY

Bonus vid: Hidden items locations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-9gbxRfg8U

>> No.5728164

>>5727986
One the second stage of level four, fire at the base of the first conveyor belt. A special Musashi symbol will appear. Hop onto the conveyor belt and let it carry you to the end. You lose a life but you gain 2.

>> No.5728308

Huh. I've never had a problem with the default number of shurikens. There's always enough power ups on each stage.

>> No.5728317

I don't respect anybody who uses infinite shurikens. this game is very well made so there's no excuse to be spamming them at every opportunity like a retard.

>> No.5728320

Does anyone know how this guy starts rolling on the floor?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hdXVuYfCRk&t=58s

>> No.5728324

>>5728317
Well I wouldn't go that far but I find it interesting that most people use infinite on Revenge but no on III. Thoughts? I will admit that 50 shurkines isn't enough for me. I think it was a very smart move to allow the player to choose the amount of shurikens you start with.

>> No.5728327

>>5728320
That is a tool assisted speedrun.

>> No.5728329

>>5728327
Yeah but I'm wondering if it's doable without TAS.

>> No.5728332

>>5728329
I think I might know what you are talking about I will post a vid of me doing it and an explanation. Sound good?

>> No.5728340

>>5728332
https://anonfile.com/Dec2V6ydn1/Play_Revenge_of_Shinobi_Rev_00_for_sega_genesis_online_SSega_Play_Retro_Sega_Genesis_Mega_drive_video_games_emulated_online_in_your_browser._-_Google_Chrome_7_11_2019_1_35_47_AM_mp4

>> No.5728342

>>5728340

This glitch can only be done with a keyboard on a emulator or any controller with a joystick. This will not work on a Genesis controller. Hold left on the joystick while pressing right on the d-pad. This will trigger a moon walk glitch. The can be done on the keyboard by merely holding the left key and pressing right.

>> No.5728343

>>5728332
Yes, thank you!

>> No.5728348

I see. So rolling along the ground is part of the moonwalk glitch, where you hold one direction and then push the opposite direction? I'll try experimenting with it tomorrow.

>> No.5728378

>>5728343
You're welcome.

>>5728348
Good luck. Remember you can't do this on a genesis controller.

>> No.5728603

bump, this is a general Revenge thread too.

>> No.5729024

ebic shinobi 3 fags didn't prove me wrong.

>> No.5729083

>>5727908
>screencapping your own post in a thread you got btfo in
>got btfo three times already when you tried to shill this garbage
Holy fuck give it a rest already

>> No.5729086

>>5729024
>Australia now shitting up shinobi threads
It's so tiresome

>> No.5729120

Both Super Shinobi Bros. games are rather shite.

Go play the Arcade Shinobi or Shadow Dancer instead.

>> No.5729129

>>5727908
>>5727910
Stop using my posts as bait anon
>>5729083
Link me where this btfo'ing happened pls, I'm yet to see a proper argument coming from Shinobi 3 fans that doesn't boil down to "you're exaggerating!" or just outright lies.

>> No.5729135

Shinobi 3 sucks.
>>5729120
based

>> No.5729143

Because they can't deal with the fact that they're always spending a resource every time they throw them psychologically even though it doesn't actually matter and the game has more than enough shurikens to never have to worry about them. desu I don't even know why they added limited shurikens in the first place, I guess it was borrowed from Rolling Thunder but those games did a far better job at making you conserve your bullets.

>> No.5730315

>>5729120
One hit kill games suck ballz. You aren't even playing a full game.

>> No.5730539

>>5729143
Dude, I sometimes run out and I'm at 90. I do rush through the levels though.

>> No.5730563

>>5729120
>shite
This is an American board, get out

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>>5730315
What kinda dumbass judges game quality on the amount of hits it takes for the player to die?

>> No.5730584

>>5730563
Oh, choke on a hotdog m8.

>> No.5730605
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5730605

The blatant copyright infringement in this game makes me laugh, like how the fuck did they think they would get away with it? There is some plausible deniability with the references to Rambo and the Hulk/Terminator early on. Then you end up fighting what is clearly Spider-Man and not only that, he turns into Batman half way into the fight.

>> No.5730984

>>5730605
They used to have the license to Spider-Man with the other stuff they gave no fucks. Rambo had to go bald in later revisions.

>> No.5730992

>>5730580
The developers of Revenge even did: from Noriyoshi Ohba “In the original Shinobi, you died when you are hit once, but in the sequel Joe has HP. We designed it this way because while Shinobi was designed to be played for about three minutes with one coin, The Revenge Of Shinobi was a console game and cost considerably more. It was also a much bigger game, so introducing a damage system was much more suitable.” Blow me, retard.

>> No.5731006

>>5730605
Japan was a different place at the time when it came to copyrights. Now, they can't get away with shit like that.

>> No.5731009

>>5730992
>Revenge of Shinobi devs could only go three minutes into Arcade Shinobi before getting a game over

sounds like they were just trash at videogames and wanted to dumb shinobi down for themselves and other shitplayers like yourself

>> No.5731010

>>5730992
Must be why its noticably worse than its predecessors

>> No.5731018

>>5730992
They don't say anything about its quality, they're just saying it needed to be casualized so people don't throw bitch fits from losing. Funnily enough the game isn't easier to 1cc on its hardest setting, nor is it more "fair" really.

>> No.5731069 [DELETED] 

>>5731009
Those arcade weren't mean to be played for long in one sitting. You were expected to die frequently. Only the players with the most most money would get to the end. The average player gets his ass handed to him. You know nothing. Btw, since you want to talk shit why don't you meet me in fightcade, bro? I'm through being bullied,

>> No.5731072

>>5731009
Those arcade games weren't mean to be played for long in one sitting. You were expected to die frequently. Only the players with the most most money would get to the end. The average player gets his ass handed to him. You know nothing. Btw, since you want to talk shit why don't you meet me in fightcade, bro? I'm through being bullied. I could 1cc Shinobi arcade.

>> No.5731076

>>5731018
The game is easier bro. The added mobility and shuriken shower makes it easier already.

>> No.5731259

>>5731076
It's easier for lots of reasons but all the pre-Saturn Shinobis are super fun

>> No.5731476

>>5727481
Because giving you limited shurikens was a fucking stupid design decision.

Also:
>>5728007

>> No.5731495
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>> No.5731512

>>5731476
I don't care how people play it, I just found it intresting. Why do you think the design is stupid? If the made them limited I think they would get rid of the shuriken shower move.

>> No.5731565

Lmao at casuals defending the console shinobis. Unironically kys.

>> No.5731568

>>5731076
The game still had plenty of bullshit jumps, annoying enemy encounters and tougher bosses than the original and its not like you can spam the shuriken shower its use has to be planned. The original game is easy and fair for the most part, with the major exceptions being the level 3 boss which will definitely kill you for a while until you realize you cant waste a second and the first part of the last level with the bullshit flying ninjas that need to be memorized. The rest is smooth sailing, the lack of lifebar really doesn't do much to add to its challenge

>> No.5731573

>>5731565
Look at little billy badass here telling people to kill themselves over a video game.

>> No.5731575

>>5731568
You think Shinobi arcade is easy? I got my ass handed to me. The final boss is cheap af imo.

>> No.5731578

>>5731573
>Wah wah stop making fun of me for playing the inferior games

>> No.5731580

>>5731578
Shinobi Arcade isn't even a full game compared to the console ones. You are playing a demo, haha.

>> No.5731594

>>5731575
Yeah it only me just a few hours to 1cc it, and a no death run wouldn't take too long either. You'll probably die to the final boss a couple of times but it's really not hard at all, just make sure to use your magic if things get hairy in the second phase where he summons the tornado, that's the most dangerous part. The others are quite easy as long as you don't lose your concentration, first one is just walk to the right and attack,walk to the right attack, stay close to him when he's summoning clones and kill them, and the final phase is just throw shuriken from a distance and jump backwards if you see him running at you

>> No.5731702

>>5727910
>>5727908
imagine screencapping your own posts

>> No.5731708

>>5727481
>a good let's play
there's your problem, the people who make these things are all filthy casuals who hate video games.

>> No.5732307

>>5727908
>>5727910
>>5727915
This isn't really wrong but it ignores the game's strengths. Weakest of the great classic Shinobis but I can't go lower than 8/10 and that's if I'm grumpy.

>> No.5732309

God Tier:
Shadow Dancer (ARC)
Shinobi

High Tier:
Shadow Dancer (MD)

Mid Tier:
Revenge of Shinobi
Shinobi X
GG Shinobi II
GG Shinobi

Low Tier:
Shinobi III

Shit Tier:
Cyber Shinobi

Kid Tier:
Alex the Kid in Shinobi World

>> No.5732327

>>5732309
>Mid Tier:
>Revenge of Shinobi
>Shinobi X
Well you got me to respond

Ninja Cop is top tier Shinobi even though it's not officially Shinobi

>> No.5732328

preferring any other shinobi to the 2 super shinobi games is peak contrarianism

>> No.5732343

>>5727915
>>5727910
>>5727908
Why'd you screencap your own posts from like a week ago?

>> No.5732370

>>5732328
Pretty lousy opinion, 1 hit deaths let you know shit is serious

>> No.5732383

>>5732328
It's a sign of top tier tastes and love of quality level design/mechanics over flashy gay jump kicks that let you cheese all enemies

>> No.5732419 [DELETED] 

arcadefags are ruining this board.

>> No.5732424

>>5732419
Why

>> No.5732427

Fuck off to castlevania threads contrarians.

>> No.5732439

>>5732370
>>5732383
>>5732309
Embarrassing taste.

>> No.5732449
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I love how 3 fags can never actually defend their game when faced with its criticism, they can only get mad and screech about contrarians all thread. Guess that's what happens when you have no real tastes and just go with whatever's popular, nevermind that their modern popularity has more to do with availability than quality since they're easily purchased MD games.

>> No.5732474

>>5727519
Fair, I play with the default amount.
To my credit, I did find out about the life farming exploit all on my own.

>> No.5732487 [DELETED] 

HOW CAN ANYONE PREFER THE MEGADRIVE SHINOBIS?REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.5732526

>>5728154
>Is the game unfair?
In terms of the amount of shurikens you get? Not really. The only thing I'd call unfair is that it's really easy to waste 5 shurikens by doing a jumping attack accidentaly.

>> No.5732547

>>5728154

The only thing unfair about the game is that one fucking jump

>> No.5732552

People who like the MD games should be shot especially 3 fags.

>> No.5732576

>>5732552
Nah, MD Shadow Dancer is good. It's the Super Shinobi Bros. fags that need to fuck off.

>> No.5732657

>>5732552
>>5732576
Chill out homie

>> No.5732660

>>5732449
No one cares. That isn't what this thread is for.

>> No.5732670

lmao Super babies cant defend their games

>> No.5732678

>>5732670
Why do you care what games people like? You should get a life, dude.

>> No.5732760

>>5732547
The one with the logs at the end of stage 2?

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>>5732760
This one right here.

>> No.5732958

>>5732767
Any tips? Thats the furthest level I can reach.

>> No.5733046

Super shinobi are still garbage.

>> No.5733058

fuck super shinobi and fuck consolecucks

>> No.5733150

>>5732958
use the technique that allows you to jump high

>> No.5733153

>>5733058
and fuck video games am i right? your memes never caught up on /vr/.

>> No.5733180

>>5732958
Try slowly walking the very tip of the ledge and then jumping and doing a double jump when you are close to the platform. Joe doesn't seem to build up speed, so it is fine to start from the very end of the ledge. You can either try to make the jump easier by using the Ninjutsu of Fushin or you can use Ninjutsu of Ikazuchi to avoid enemies knocking you into the water. I also make sure to get most hidden lives and hidden Ninjutsus.

>> No.5733182

>>5733046
I'll entertain your trolling. Why do you hate Super Shinobi, anon?

>> No.5733226

so was there any reason why you have to kill hulk that turns into a T-800, then spiderman, who transforms into batman?

Like was there any comments by the game designers about it?

>> No.5733246

>>5733226
Not really, this is the closest they commented on it:

“I made some rough sketches of characters from my mind and from some photos due to my lack of drawing ability,” reveals Ohba. “They were meant to be used as a rough example. Unfortunately, the designer of the sprites reproduced my drawings a bit too faithfully and you know the end result. I personally think that if the designer had tried to show more of his own personality in those characters, they would have looked a lot different to the originals. Those bosses were created by taking each one’s weak point and how to kill them into consideration. We created each of them considering what you specifically need to do to kill them, what movement you need to use to avoid the boss’s attack, and then arranged them in order of difficulty.”

They only had the copyright to Spider-Man the time they made the boss. Revenge was made in the 80s and these things were popular back then.

>> No.5733250

>>5733246

Interesting, so basically the sprite creators took the "make this guy as strong as the hulk that blows up into a robot when he dies" literally
after seeing some hulk and T-800 examples lol

>> No.5733261

what the hell even was the flying wig final boss guy meant to be anyway? was he some pop culture reference like the previous level bosses that went over my head?

>> No.5733274

>>5733261
He was original to my knowledge.

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>>5733261
He's a kabuki theater guy and he is the evil enemy ninja master

>> No.5733391

>>5733367
I see. figured it was some Japanese folklore thing alright

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>>5733391
I don't know that it qualifies as folklore but it's not something they came up with themselves

>>5733246
Yet the copyright violations create a more convincing z movie aesthetic

>> No.5734227

>>5727481
When I was a kid I didn't like the change from arcade infinite shurikens to limited. So I always used the cheat. I think that might have been why many play with infinite. To make it more like the first game.

Later on I did play the game as intended with original shurikens.

>> No.5735134

>>5734227
That makes sense. You might like the genesis Shadow Dancer then.

>> No.5736291

>>5727481
It's not cheating, it's an easy difficulty level. It's still obeying rules of the game.

And the reason people like to use infinite shurikens is because then the game plays more like typical run'n'guns like Contra, Ghosts and Goblins or Metal Slug.
If you have limited shurikens, then it plays closer to something like Ninja Gaiden or Castlevania.

It' s a matter of preference.

>> No.5736301

>>5727484
They should have included that... Shinobi 3 allows you to map sword to another button so you can do a no-shuriken run easily, and console Shadow Dancer lets you disable shurikens.

>>5727519
>>5727495
I set it to 0 and max difficulty, but I'm not a bad enough dude to avoid picking them up and using them. You still end up with a ton of them if you don't die much, but it makes bosses scary.