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5680550 No.5680550 [Reply] [Original]

So it’s supposed to be an undersaturated shade of purple? That’s kinda gay, desu...

>> No.5680574

You’re kinda gay.

>> No.5680580

>>5680550
No, the definitive version, the American one, uses a mid dark blue sky as seen in the commercials and the box.

>> No.5680584

>>5680580
This is objectively incorrect. It’s supposed to be purplish.

>> No.5680594

>>5680584
No, that guy is right. The American version on a correctly color calibrated NTSC screen is blue

>> No.5680596

>>5680584
Only if you're a zoomer or a literal brainlet boomer. Gen X decides this, period.

>> No.5680597

>>5680594
It’s actually purplish.

>> No.5680604

>>5680597
Actually, you don't even believe that.

>> No.5680605

>>5680580
>>5680594
Shut up, yanks. No one gives a shit about how things were in “good ol’ ‘murca, ah-hyuck!”

The sky color is a purplish blue. End of story.

>> No.5680613

>>5680605
>Shut up, yanks
Yeah, yeah in the proper version the sky is full of purple TV license agents. No one cares for your inbred opinions, "mate".

>> No.5680649
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5680649

>>5680550
In the RGB palette used in the arcade version, it's precisely this color. Use that information however you will.

>> No.5680662

>>5680550
It's supposed to be whatever your TV interprets it to be due to the arse-about way the NES color palette works. It could be sky blue, it could be indigo, it could be fucking mauve.

>> No.5680738

>>5680649
Yep that's lavender

>> No.5680742

>>5680662
Disregard this, anon is a retard who doesn’t understand how NTSC works. NTSC color has precise specifications for color and when set correctly, it will be displayed as purplish.

>> No.5680743
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5680743

>>5680649
Inauthentic and mincing.
Nice try, though. It's blue in Vs. Super Mario Bros. (pronounced "brothers" not "brohs") and the Playchoice/PlayChoice 10 NES version.

>> No.5680748

>>5680649
You couldn't even bother to use a real arcade image. Screenshotted for lulz.

>> No.5680760

>>5680605
The anons you quoted are wrong but above all else palfaggots are completely irrelevant in this discussion Mario is an NTSC game. Go play Zniggy on your 3 color monitor.

>> No.5680762

>>5680760
>The anons you quoted are wrong
Afraid not, zoomy.

>> No.5680763

>>5680762
>can’t produce evidence
Facts don’t care about your feelings.

>> No.5680764

>>5680743
>>5680743
The RP2C03 uses 9-bit RGB with the palette values stored in ROM. The exact color is (4,4,7). Converted to 24-bit RGB, that's (146,146,255) or #9292FF. Those are facts, I'm simply reporting them.

>> No.5680779

>>5680764
>9292FF
This.
"Light Slate Blue"
"BLUE"

>> No.5680789
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5680789

>>5680584
>>5680597
>>5680605
Purple, or magenta, only appears as much as cyan. Would you say it's a cyanish blue? No. In other words, there is not a more significant amount of purple than there is cyan. It is not purplish. This is just being scientific and objective.

>> No.5680803
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5680803

>>5680789

>> No.5680806

>>5680803
So it is the purplish blue. Not that you fuckers know anything about display calibration anyhow.

>> No.5680831

>>5680764
And you're wrong. The box art, commercials, and both arcades games don't lie.

>> No.5680835

If you play SMB with a purple background under any circumstances, you're a turbo gay.

>> No.5680843

>>5680789
I think this settles it, it's blue, and purplefags are ironically blueballed now.

>> No.5680845
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>> No.5680846

>>5680845
You need to resize that so the lettering isn't cropped out, but very good.

>> No.5680852
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5680852

>>5680846
Yeah, I fucked it up at the end, sorry.

>> No.5680860

>>5680852
Beautiful.

>> No.5681061
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5681061

Looks blue on my North American SMB/Duck Hunt cartridge over composite.

Only emulators and RGB mods with inaccurate color palettes make it look purple.

>> No.5681072
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5681072

NES systems and famicoms did not encode graphics in RGB values. Rather, they were encoded directly in NTSC. And composite/RF looks different on every single TV depending on the settings of that television and the model of NES/famicom. Some had a blue sky, some had a purplish one.

Shigeru Miyamoto has stated that he chose a "purple" as the intended color for the sky for reference, but that doesn't mean you ever necessarily saw it like that as a kid depending on your setup. Further complicating matters is the fact that every Virtual Console release of the game as well as the GBA port had a different palette implemented by whoever handled the emulator.

In sum, no matter what you do, you'll never have colors that perfectly resemble the original NTSC colors of a real NES, famicom, toploader, or Famicom AV. The FBX palettes are as close as we are going to get, but even those are just approximations. On my CRT using composite, sometimes the sky is purple and sometimes it's blue depending on the TV's settings and which of my NES systems or Famicoms I am using.

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>> No.5681076

>>5681073
>Run and hold the down side of the + button.
Lol...

>> No.5681081
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5681081

>>5681076
it would have taken more ink to print the word D-Pad, zoomer scum. what is economics? god i swear you z-gen kids have no sense of cost of production or even the slightest understanding of what it is to get the best bang for your buck. fuckin lol..

>> No.5681091
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5681091

These threads are why the Mariocel fanbase needs to go away.

>> No.5681093

>>5681081
I'm not a zoomer and SMB was actually the first video I ever played. I just think it's funny how the terminology has evolved, which is what I think that picture is illustrative of, not some cost-production issue (besides, ti would have taken even less words to simply write "Run and hold the down button.") There's also a typo in the middle, where it says "To jump over large, use the B button..."

>> No.5681195

Blue but with a faint purple tint to it, kind of like the background color of OP's image.

>> No.5681223

>>5681091
Nincel

>> No.5681231

Why is this only an isue on the famicom / NES?

>> No.5681236

the NES only has like 60 colors; it looks more blue on CRT, but emulators and VC make it look like the default background of /vr/

>> No.5681242

>>5681236
It looks wrong in emulators because they aren't encoding the video in NTSC format. They're typically displaying the raw RGB color. Some emulators do support it, but it's usually not enabled by default.

It's also why NES RGB mods are stupid and a waste of money.

>> No.5681361

>>5680574
Came here to post this. You're doing God's work, anon.

>> No.5681368

>>5681072
This.
There is a reason why in TV production for years NTSC was joked around as "Never The Same Color twice". Striving for 1:1 color reproduction from editing to broadcasting is basicly a pipe dream on analog NTSC.

>> No.5681454

Glad that it's settled, blue if you know what you're talking about, purple if you're in an insufferable zoomer without common sense and a soul.

>> No.5681523

>>5681242
Pretty much all modern emulators support it dude. What emulators do you think don’t have this option?

>> No.5681561

>>5681368
>There is a reason why in TV production for years NTSC was joked around as "Never The Same Color twice". Striving for 1:1 color reproduction from editing to broadcasting is basicly a pipe dream on analog NTSC.
Yes. And it's completely irrelevant to home video. But good job otherwise.

>> No.5681645

>>5681061
1. You’re a retarded faggot
2. You’re playing on a flat screen
3. Just because you it shows as blue doesn’t make it right

>> No.5681657

>>5681645
t. tryhard zoomer who worships obscure wrongheaded technical blogs

>> No.5682927

>>5681061
>LCD
This isn't the board for you, next please.

>> No.5682932

>>5681093
>"I'm not a zoomer"
You're not fooling anyone.

>> No.5683053
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>> No.5683081

>>5683053
Degauss that shit

>> No.5683096

>>5680845
heh, literally rose tinted view

>> No.5683462

>>5681076
first thing i read was "FIREBALL / ACCELERTION(sic) BUTTON"

>> No.5683689

>>5680594
>a correctly color calibrated NTSC screen
Such a thing does not exist.

>> No.5683865
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>> No.5683893

>>5683689
Just because you can’t do it doesn’t mean it exist. For example, other people have sex.

>> No.5684054

>>5681645
>>5682927
What, you guys don't have line doublers?

>> No.5684252

>>5684054
Go fuck yourself.

>> No.5684497

>>5684252
Ya seethe?
Ya seethe.

>> No.5684528
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5684528

>>5680743
>Nice try, though. It's blue in Vs. Super Mario Bros. (pronounced "brothers" not "brohs")

>> No.5684659

>>5684528
It's literally supposed to be said as "brothers", you turbo zoomer.

>> No.5684875

>>5684659
>Posts an unprompted, literal ACHTUALLY

>> No.5684892

>>5684875
You are brain-damaged.

>> No.5685129

>>5681561
What are you doing on /vr/ if you don't even understand half the stuff that post is talking about? go back to /v/

>> No.5685140

>>5685129
Jesus christ, Dunning-Kruger in full fucking force. Read a book sometimes, retard. Or maybe start with a wikipedia article.

>> No.5685149

>>5684528
If you're adequate-looking and confident, this conversation would be absolutely fine. And if you aren't, then no conversation will.

>> No.5685153

>>5680594
Never The Same Color you moron

>> No.5685163

>>5685129
>>5685153
Go away, samefag fucktard.

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5685229

>>5680550

>> No.5685236
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5685236

>>5685163
you don't belong, summerfag

>> No.5685260

>>5685236
Why don't you go "correct" the wikipedia article on NTSC if you're such a fucking expert on the subject? You obviously won't, and you will never provide any sources to your idiotic claims because you're just a retard parroting nonsense spouted by other equally retarded individuals.

>> No.5685271

>>5685229
Kek. This is going to see so much use.

>> No.5685273
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5685273

>>5685260
>"zoom zoom zoomity zoom!! blargh!! i can't stand it when people have actual explanations, it makes it harder for me to troll!!! GIVE ME ATTENTION REEEE!!!!!!"
yikes. go read this again if you don't have a literary disability you half-wit. >>5681072

>> No.5685281

>>5685273
Wow, nice source you stupid fucking retard. It's wrong. TVs don't handle composite in some fucking magical way that is unique to every model. It doesn't make any fucking sense. This is not where the incorrectly used NTSC color meme comes from. Do the world a favor and cease breathing for eternity.

>> No.5685301
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>>5685281
you don't seem to remotely even have a clue about the topic being discussed so this debate is over between you and I. Most people have stopped replying in this thread because its been derailed by people like you. The post I directed you to above is objectively accurate in the way color is displayed differently on different circumstances. If this is too hard for you to understand, stick to your LCD and retropi zoom zoom.

>> No.5685307

>>5685301
You don't have a fucking clue, you absolute mong. You're delusional as fuck. If you did you could easily substantiate your retarded claims. You can't, so you lose.

I'll give you one thing though; you fit right in here along with all the other retards.

>> No.5685310

>>5685307
Nice try :)

>> No.5685320

>>5685310
Educate yourself, fucktard:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC

>> No.5685328

>>5685320
Posting a wiki link isn't a source, I've given an objective definition.

Nice try :)

>> No.5685350

>>5685328
I'm sorry, but you're wrong and I'm right.
And my claim is substantiated by at least one third party that I have linked, however questionable you may think it is.
The closest thing your retarded opinion has to a source is your anus :^)

>> No.5685379

>>5685350
>I'm sorry, but you're wrong and I'm right
great argument kiddo, nice try though :)

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>>5685320
>utilizing wiki as a source
hey anon, I'll have some chicken wings and yes, I want some fucking fries with that, here's a tip towards an actual education ya bum

>> No.5685626

>>5680803
Uuuh I don't give a fuck about any of the posts in this thread. This for me says it should be purple, and imo the more purple the more I am aligned with his vision. BLUE LOOKS GAY AS FUCK, AND I HATE GAYS!!!

>> No.5685630

>>5681072
>Shigeru Miyamoto has stated that he chose a "purple" as the intended color for the sky for reference
Wrong.

>> No.5685639
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5685639

>>5680550

>> No.5685667

>>5685639
>i don’t know how to set tint correctly

>> No.5685672

>>5685667
cope

>> No.5685681
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5685681

>>5685672
You’re literally retarded. If you know how to adjust a TV properly, it’s purple. Sorry, just the facts.

>> No.5685721

>>5685681
wow, thats exactly how my 240p test suite looks, you dipshit. thanks for proving you're a fucktarded troll.

>> No.5685745

>>5685639
That is correct, but the blue could be dialed down a hair.

>> No.5685790

The NES relies on your TV to set its palette. There is no correct color, it just looks like whatever it looks like for you. If you don't like it, fuck around with your screen settings until you do. It doesn't matter what somebody else thinks it should be as long as it looks good on your screen.

>> No.5685793

>>5685790
>There is no correct color,
Wrong. The commercials and the box are definitive.

>> No.5685805
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5685805

>>5685793
The box is derivative to what ink was available and was not accurately represented by the same color on the monitors used to develop the graphics since the monitor itself developed and printed from has its own unique color settings. This makes the autist rage for some reason and will do anything to deny factual objective evidence and reasoning. its a sad, sad world, mm, yes, quite.

>> No.5685807

>>5685793
I mean, if we absolutely had to settle for something as definitive I would go for those. I'll give you that.

>> No.5685809

>>5685805
>The box is derivative to what ink was available
Oh fuck off.

>> No.5685813

>>5685807
That's good, but do you really want me to believe that the ground can be green and that the sky can be red and still be correct because muh variations?

>> No.5685817

>>5685809
see: >>5685809

>> No.5685819

>>5685817
Made me chuckle.

>> No.5685825 [DELETED] 

>>5685681
You don’t know how to use it if you’re getting blue skies.

>> No.5685827

>>5685790
Fuck off centrist faggot.

>> No.5685832

>>5685721
You don’t know how to use it if you’re getting blue skies.

>> No.5685837

>>5685827
see: >>5681072

>> No.5685842

>>5685793
Wrong. Look up Famicom Tilter. It’s a special console with S-video out that they used for screenshots and gameplay footage. S-video alters the colors.

>> No.5685847

>>5685842
>Famicom
>definitive

Oh anon.

>> No.5685853

>>5685847
he doesn't know what hes even talking about, don't bother. people come here to be retarded.

>> No.5685854

>>5685847
>Gets proven wrong
>Goes into low-effort shitposting mode
:^P

>> No.5685861

>>5685853
Meant for >>5685842

>> No.5685862

>>5685854
are you the retard that typed >>5685842 ?

>> No.5685869

>>5685854
I'm not wrong, you're just a zoomer who read a misquote from someone and you want to prove older gamers wrong. Look, you can't even play the game properly, so you are not the authority on this.

>> No.5685881

>>5685862
Shoo. Away with you and your fluff responses.

>>5685869
Could make a scarecrow with all that straw, man. You are wrong, and I’m likely older than you—and I can say with confidence I’m better than you at SMB. Set up a way for us to play together and I’ll show you.

>> No.5685896

>>5685862
>Responses within a span of 5 minutes
>Hurr are you the guy who just literally posted before
We got a real einstein over here folks

>> No.5685906

>>5685881
>I’m likely older than you
Hahahahahaha No.
>and I can say with confidence I’m better than you at SMB
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA No.

>Set up a way for us to play together and I’ll show you
It is too bad that I can't humiliate you in public, but if you find a way online, you're on.

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>>5685837
Hey retard, NTSC color isn’t some arbitrary specification for color. Images aren’t supposed to vary across displays. Men much more intelligent than you realized that if an image looks one way when shot in a studio, and a completely different way when it’s displayed at someone’s home, it’s probably a bad thing

>> No.5685932

I've been looking for an easy way to play head-to-head SMB, but they (our gameplay) could be streamed simultaneously on many sites if we really wanted to prove it. Got anything?

>> No.5685956

>>5680649
>>5680845
>>5683865
all the evidence is here folks.

>> No.5685960

>>5680649
>>5680743
>>5680738
>>5685956
>>5685907
>>5685896
>>5685881
see: >>5681072

>> No.5685965

>>5685960
Mass repliers are always wrong.

>> No.5685969

>>5685965
see: >>5685960

>> No.5685971

>>5685960
No

>> No.5685976

>>5685960
No matter how many times you (You) your own shitty post, it will never not be a load of poop.

>> No.5685981

>>5685976
>>5685971
is your trolling on /v/ not getting enough attention or something?

>> No.5685998

>>5685981
This >>5685971 is not me. But thanks for the (You), Mr. Ass

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5686014

>>5685998
Anytime, anon.

>> No.5686023

>>5685907
This is literally from wikipedia, isn't it? It's obviously WRONG. Each NES/Famicom hold a little meeting before displaying anything, where it is decided whether the sky should be purple or blue or anything in between. This is a FACT. Go zoomzoom elsewhere and let us oldfags enjoy or consoles and shared identity (which is the only thing we have in our lives).

>> No.5686047

>>5685813
Eh? No, that's a bit too varied. There's a range for this sort of thing, I think. Not too blue, not too purple either.

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5686049

>>5685827

>> No.5686086

>>5681073
I always wondered if there was a super hero story as to how Mario could jump so high and smash blocks with his fist but not punch an enemy into annihilation.

>> No.5686095

>>5685790
>he doesnt calibrate his tv

>> No.5686138

>>5686095
You literally can't! How can't you understand this? Never The Same Color. Every time you turn it on you get different colors. Switch channels - different colors. Take your pea sized zoomer brain and go back to shitting up /v/ and leave us oldfags who actually know how things work alone.

>> No.5686151

>>5686138
>Every time you turn it on you get different colors
No. Just stop. It's embarrassing now.

>> No.5686163

>>5686151
You may not like it, but it's a fact. Read >>5681072 and then see yourself out, little zoomshitter. Oh, and don't ever reply to me again, please.

>> No.5686207

>>5684892
his point is that the pronunciation of "bros." in super mario bros. was never brought up
people find it offensive when people preempt a correction like that, it infers the person you're talking to is stupid

>> No.5686210

>>5686163
^gay

>> No.5686213

>>5686207
>people find it offensive when people preempt a correction like that, it infers the person you're talking to is stupid
^autism

>> No.5686296

>>5686210
At least I'm RIGHT. So fuck off, retarded zoomerkid.

>> No.5686573

>>5686163
It’s still wrong. Didn’t read past the first sentence.

>> No.5686575

>>5686573
It's the objective truth. Get over it, dumb dumb zoomy zoomer shitface.

>> No.5686631

>>5686047
There's no range. The NES and broadcast standards use very specific color values. If your TV shows something other than the specified value, it is calibrated incorrectly.

>> No.5686639

>>5686575
See >>5685907

>> No.5686640

>>5686631
>>5686639
See >>5681072 and then cry about how pants on head retarded you are.

>> No.5686653

>>5686640
Doubling down when you’re wrong isn’t a good look anon. Take the L and move on. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

>> No.5686675

>>5686653
Where is your evidence retard? Now go cry in the corner.

>> No.5686683

>>5686675
See >>5685907

>> No.5686692

>>5686683
A random table from wikipedia is not a source. Show me some text from a reputable site. You obviously don't have it, or you would have posted it already. There is a reason it is called Never The Same Color. Go cry in the corner, and let the adults talk.

>> No.5686693

>>5681072
but what about pal, not the whole world is america

>> No.5686704

>>5686693
PAL is Perfection At Last. There are no real issues with PAL except terrible ports and 50 hz flicker.

>> No.5686712

>>5686704
>50 hz flicker.
native PAL televisions have different phosphors than native NTSC televisions
a tv designed for ntsc will flicker worse displaying pal because the phosphors more quickly lose their brightness
i live in a PAL country, and i can tell you there really wasn't much visual difference flicker-wise between a tv (displaying a pal signal) and a computer monitor (displaying a 60Hz signal)

>> No.5686714

>>5686692
Just because it’s on a wiki doesn’t make it false. It’s easily verified and readily documented, I’m not gonna look it up for you. It’s like arguing with the boiling point of water because you read it on wikipedia lmao. Just pack it up man and write off the loss

>> No.5686727

>>5686712
I live in PAL territory and there is a massive difference between 50 and 60 hz on a pal TV.
>>5686714
>up not gonna get you a source because I can't find any
Got it. No worries. I think we already concluded that you lack intellect a long time ago.

>> No.5686732

>>5686727
>palfag
Into the trash it goes

>> No.5686734

>>5686727
>there is a massive difference between 50 and 60 hz on a pal TV.
yes, but i'm not talking about that
i'm saying pal on a pal tv and ntsc on an ntsc has comparable levels of flicker
pal on an ntsc tv looks more flickery, but sharper
ntsc on a pal tv looks less flickery, but more smeared

>> No.5686737

>>5686727
OI MATE YOU GOTS A LOICESE FO THAT VIDGEO GAME CONSOL

>> No.5686748

>>5686737
howdy pardnerrr, did you know that most of the worrrld uses pal?

>> No.5686754

>>5686734
I guess we don't disagree then, if we can at least agree that 50 hz PAL flicker is bad. I have heard about the phosphor thing before. Never had the chance to compare directly for fairly obvious reasons and I haven't paid attention to or noticed flicker when I've been in freedomland.

>> No.5686758

>>5686754
>if we can at least agree that 50 hz PAL flicker is bad
yea, but flicker on ntsc tv's isn't what you'd call "good" either
they're both pretty low rates

>> No.5686761

>>5686748
Irrelevant when discussing retro games, as the only ones worth playing came from NTSC countries

>> No.5686792

>>5681368
See >>5681561
The Never (The/Twice) Same Color is because of a limitation in Over The Air broadcasting. The NTSC colour carrier doesn't have enough information to prevent the color chroma channels from being affected by distance, obstructions, and such. So back then your TV will have drifted into and out of calibration with the NTSC color spec depending on the channel you were on.
This however is largely irrelevant with respect to the NES since there's no inherent/unpredictable drift in an RF lead. With your TV's tint control set to middle/default, all NTSC color bias is gone. If your TV was calibrated from the factory, which most decent ones were (not to a studio standard, but close enough for consumers), you are seeing the colors as intended by the NTSC standard.
Of course, if you can find a source that says that the NES output was NOT NTSC and varied machine to machine, then we're all pissing into the wind here.

>> No.5686862

>>5686748
see >>5686761 for a free BTFO

>> No.5686891

>>5686792
Imagine typing all this out on a cambodian shoe polishing forum. Go outside and get some perspective.

>> No.5686902

>>5686792
Wow, this is cute. You just can't get into your pea sized noggin that you will never EVER get the same colors on two different tv sets or two different consoles no matter how much you calibrate. It's just not possible.
See >>5681072 and try to actually understand what it says.

>> No.5686914

even if you have a perfect setup
who's to say the devs of your game did?
and who cares? as long as the sky isn't neon green, it's probably close enough, it's a video game, not a medical exam

>> No.5686917

>>5686914
You just have to assume.

>> No.5686921

>>5686917
even if you both did, the NES has a fixed palette, so they were picking approximations from the very beginning, they couldn't use the colour they really wanted to even if they tried

>> No.5686928

>>5680605
do you have a lioscene to comment here. If so Im gonna need to see it

>> No.5686936

>>5680831
That's a pretty inefficient way to type out "no u".

>> No.5686938

>>5686921
It's the color they chose. I don't give a shit if it was a compromise.

>> No.5686951

>>5683053
Why do I seem to have the only 1702 in existence with the door over the pots attached and intact?

>> No.5687000

>>5686936
Pointing out the facts that ream out your zoomer ass isn't "no u", you fucking broken condom.

>> No.5687059
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5687059

>>5687000
You can't "no u" me when I point out your "no u".
That's not how it works, you little shit.

>> No.5687061

>>5687059
confirmed u don't know what a "no u" is

>> No.5687064

>>5687061
No u.

>> No.5687253

>>5687059
What an embarrassing post^

>> No.5687262

>>5687253
>^
Cringe.

>> No.5687291

>>5687253
For you.

>> No.5688629

To sum things up for those not wanting to wade through shitposts: purple skies are objectively correct.

>> No.5689592
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5689592

>>5680550
>People on /vr/ are arguing the color of the sky
The absolute state of this board.

>> No.5689598

>>5688629
Blue.

>> No.5689630

>>5680550
Once again.... the word "desu" is a meaningless word with no other use than to immediately identify you as a dumb weaboo faggot.

>> No.5689638

>>5689630
Excellent post, desu senpai/basedboy.

>> No.5689649

>>5680649
https://youtu.be/Yr-QtNE9k84

>> No.5689650

>>5686692
>>5685681
NTSc color bars. You.. check this out.. can calibrate your screen to the signal.

>> No.5689656

>>5683053
blue

>> No.5689675

>>5689650
No. You. Can. Not. Get. This. Into. Your. Head. And. Reread. That. Post. Until. You. Understand. It.

>> No.5689987

>>5689675
Enlighten us what is the purpose of the NTSC color bars, the purpose of which has documented for decades?

>> No.5690001

>>5689987
It's there to roughly dial in the thing. It's not like you're gonna calibrate a 3D LUT or some shit on some old piece of shit lmoa. But if that's what you call calibration, then sure, you can """calibrate""" them just fine.

>> No.5690024
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5690024

>>5690001
Objectively wrong again! You can “roughly dial” [read: inaccurately] it to be close to correct if you know what you’re doing, but its main use is to calibrate your set with a tool like an oscilloscope to get accurate color. You really shouldn’t discuss topics you don’t know anything about, palfag.

>> No.5690124

>>5690024
And now let's see the calibration report after just adjusting your display to SMPTE color bars. Lmoa, try again, retardfag.

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5690647

>>5690124

>> No.5691372

>>5690647
I thought as much.

>> No.5691380

Someone in a thread here about a year ago posted that it's actually impossible to cover the entire NTSC colorspace accurately without desaturating both to equal them out. He uploaded a palette that does just that which you can use for most NES emulators. For retroarch, put it in the system folder.

https://anonfile.com/E6ifC7w0nd/custom_pal

>> No.5691389

>>5691380
You can generate your own using whatever parameters you specify using http://drag.wootest.net/misc/palgen.html

>> No.5691391
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5691391

>>5691380
Might have to rename the file for each core. https://docs.libretro.com/library/fceumm/#directories

For reference.

>> No.5691456

>>5686207
>it infers the person you're talking to is stupid
It IMPLIES that the person you're talking to is stupid, stupid. The reader is the one who is doing the inferring.

>> No.5691462

>>5691456
thanks for correcting me

>> No.5691473

>>5690124
>>5691372
Not him but you got BTFO badly and are still trying to act tough? "Lmoa"? "retardfag"? Are you literally a dirty, poor, underage European rat child who doesn't understand science? Thought so.

>> No.5691489

>>5691473
>posts picture of an oscilloscope
>WOOOOOW!!! TOTALLY CALIBRATED!!1 BTFO!!! XDDD HAHA PWNED
Have sex. Then educate yourself about what actual calibration is and what constitutes an accurate image.

>> No.5691602

>>5691489
just cause you got raised on sonic going 2mph on your 'mega drive' doesn't mean you should take it out on this board palfag

>> No.5691616 [DELETED] 

>>5691602
Looks like you forgot to post that calibration report. Better look with your next post! :^)

>> No.5691618

>>5691602
Looks like you forgot to post that calibration report. Better luck with your next post! :^)

>> No.5691632

>>5691618
you're level of salt is as transparent as can be holy shit lol

>> No.5691683

>>5691632
>seething incel is seething
Who'd have thunk. I'll be here waiting for that calibration report. I hope you find out where you left it :))

>> No.5691841

>>5691683
Calibrate your own set and report back. Hint: the skies will be purple.

>> No.5691873

>>5691683
>moving the goalposts this badly

>> No.5692129

It's blue, you blue-balled bitches.

>> No.5692181

>>5691873
>you can totally calibrate a display using just smpte bars!
>gets told to prove it
>m-m-muh goalposts!!
Lmoa. Kys, retard.

>> No.5692237

>>5692181
You’ve already been btfo’s multiple times, each time you just move the goalposts. It’s a bad look palfag. How about you prove it’s supposed to be blue? You can’t.

>> No.5692274

>>5692237
Not them, but it's been definitively proven that the skies in SMB are blue. Please kys if you disagree. Thnx

>> No.5692294

>>5692274
Yeah it’s still you palfag. Prove it’s blue. Hint: you can’t.

>> No.5692297

>>5692294
>Yeah it’s still you palfag.
Deluded and incorrect ain't no way yadda yadda yadda

>> No.5692312

>>5692294
>palfag
Obsessed AND wrong.

>> No.5692423

>>5692297
>>5692312
Still waiting for any proof.

>> No.5692428
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5692428

>>5680594
>Never Twice Same Colour

>> No.5692431

>>5692428
>pal
>50Hz

>> No.5692583

>>5692423
>Still waiting for any proof.
Any arcade playing Vs. Super Mario Bros. or even one of the Playchoice versions is going to have a blue background, the commercials for the NES advertises a blue background, and finally the box for the game itself shows a blue sky, so you lose. Game set and match.

>> No.5692586

>>5692583
We’re not talking about Vs Super Mario, we’re talking about the one meant to be played on NTSC televisions. Again you’ve moved the goalposts, palfsg.

>> No.5692608

>>5692586
>We’re not talking about Vs Super Mario
Vs. Super Mario Bros. was even made AFTER the original release of SMB in Japan, anon. Consider that. I like how you think ignoring the rest of my post and trying to hold onto the arcade version as some kind of proof that the sky is purple (wrong).

>> No.5692610

>>5692586
And you're still talking to another anon. You're just outnumbered and thus incorrect in this case.

>> No.5692615

>>5692610
That’s not how facts work palfag. They don’t care about your feelings, nor the number of people who think the incorrect opposite is true.

>> No.5692625

>>5692615
HAhahahahahahaha You are such a pathetic faggot.

>> No.5692631

>>5692625
The one on the losing side of the argument resorts to personal attacks because he doesn’t have facts on his side.

>> No.5692640

>>5692631
You called me a palfag before I answered in kind, moron. You're the kind of dork at a bar who starts a fight and then right before you get hit you apologize and swear you didn't mean to start a fight. Leave this board and never return.

>> No.5692682

>>5692640
I’ve already presented the facts that prove without a doubt that it’s supposed to be purple. It’s not getting through your palfag brain. You shouldn’t talk about things you don’t understand. Stick to discussing 50Hz and the Zed Ex m8

>> No.5692690

>>5692682
>the facts prove without a doubt that it’s supposed to be blue
Finally you're talking sense.

>> No.5692694

>>5692682
And I'm American, for the last time.

>> No.5692724

>>5692690
>when you don’t have an argument

>> No.5692736
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5692736

>>5692724
>I'm sorry, man, it's just that no one wants to be my friend and I'm also bad at most things, so I just want to be right on this one thing, but you're right, I am pathetic, it's empirically clear that the sky in SMB is blue. Sorry.

It'll be ok, anon. :)

>> No.5692746

>>5692736
>2d hand drawn is the same as a picture generated by a game console and displayed on a television
Again you’ve moved the goalposts.
>>5680803

>> No.5692759

>>5692746
>Sorry again, guys. I guess purple has been on my mind a lot since my most favorite movie of all-time came out and I've been crushing on Admiral Holdo. She's a real leader!

Ewww

>> No.5692760

>>5692759
Ok, it’s clear that you don’t have an argument. Purple is objectively correct. See ya palfag!

>> No.5692768

>>5692760
>Ok, it’s clear that I have to dilate or else my fantasy world will come cumbling down again gotta run! Sorry for being an insufferable tool again!

Ok...

>> No.5692826

Bluefags are the niggers of this debate.

>> No.5692883

>>5692826
>I keep ignoring overwhelming evidence because daddy didn't discipline me

Ok...awkward

>> No.5692920

>>5692883
What’s awkward is you cooking up little strawmans based on your childhood lol.

>> No.5692930

>>5692883
Translation:
>I really want a big strong anon to come pound my ass like daddy used to do

>> No.5692978

>>5692920
>>5692930
You don't have to keep proving that you're a woman.

>> No.5692989

>>5692978
Even better: I’m a man. A big, burly, unshaven man.
I can fulfill all your fantasies, la’. ;-*

>> No.5692997

>>5692989
>I’m a manlet. A teeny, tiny, unshaven manlet with chicken legs.

So anyway, some weirdo in Japan had his Famicom set wrong one time and someone took a picture so now you think it's purple.

Sad!

>> No.5693003

>>5692997
See >>5680803

>> No.5693010

>>5693003
No. "Purplish", you dolt. You slow, slow summer child. It's fucking BLUE in that same fucking conversation. It's blue that's slightly purplish. Learn to read, please.

>> No.5693014

>>5693010
It’s not the same cyan blue on the back of the box or commercials.

>> No.5693020

>>5693014
>It’s not the same cyan blue
Glad we both truly agree that it's blue.

>> No.5693026

>>5693020
As long as you agree that the pictures on the back of the box aren’t accurate, then we’re in agreement. It’s a purplish blue, leaning more towards purple.

Great chat.

>> No.5693029

>>5693026
>As long as you agree that the pictures on the back of the box are accurate, then we’re in agreement. It’s a purplish blue, leaning more towards blue.
>Great chat.
FTFY and agreed.

>> No.5693041

>>5693029
Go fix your broken relationship with your father, gay boy.

>> No.5693045

>>5693041
>My projection is as bad as a broken CRT, anon!
We know, buddy. We know.

>> No.5693050

>>5693041
DESTROYED

>>5693045
Cope.

>> No.5693053

>>5693041
Kek, based

>> No.5693065

>>5693041
STOP THE DAMN MATCH

>> No.5693070

>>5693050
>>5693053
>>5693065
^samefag

>> No.5693075

Palfag here. Still waiting on that calibration report.

>> No.5693114

>>5693041
FLAWLESS VICTORY

>> No.5693118

>>5693114
^still samefagging

>> No.5693175

>>5691683
Go back to /v/ your trolling is below effortless *yawn

>> No.5693227

>>5693041
https://youtu.be/HiQ4d_aGV1g

>> No.5693235

>>5693227
^epic samefagging

It's blue, get over it.

>> No.5693696

>>5693235
Yeah, it is blue. A purplish blue. AKA not what’s found on the back of the box or commercials. The Vs. cabinets aren’t accurate. Seriously, read up on the Famicom Tilter.

>> No.5693836

>>5693696
It's just as cyanish as it is purplish. You could say it's cyanish/purplish blue, but to say it's just "purplish blue" is objectively incorrect.

>> No.5693839

>>5693041
hearty kek

>> No.5694389

>>5680649
It's pronounced "bross", rhyming with floss, boss and toss.

>> No.5694413

>>5693041
Really, being homophobic just proves you're an idiot. I just showed up in this thread but whoever you're disagreeing with is clearly the winner

>> No.5694449

>>5694413
Where do you think you are?

>> No.5694459

>>5694449
This is 4channel. You poltards had your time.

>> No.5694467 [DELETED] 

>>5694459
This is a redpilled board. Niggers, spics, tranny faggots, and kikes are not welcome here

>> No.5694509

>>5694459
Go dilate princesscuck and eat her marmalade

>> No.5694519

>>5694467
I am none of those things. I am a whitepilled white liberal man. Your time is over.

>> No.5694535 [DELETED] 

>>5694519
No, u.
>imagining you or your children will be allowed to breed just because you were a good boy

>> No.5694768

>>5693075
Ok, report back when you do it.

>> No.5694810

>>5694519
No it isn’t. This is a redpilled board. :^)

>> No.5695773

>>5694389
That's not even funny.