/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5467480]

Let's have a thread about G&W and other well made liquid crystal games.
>What's your favorite?
>What is in your collection?
>Any advice for buyers?
>Repair questions?
>Post nice pictures of your collection!
>ect...

Personally I think Octopus is the most beautiful one out there, but I have the most fun with Donkey Kong Jr.

[Anonymous No.5467485]

I had this one as a kid and also used it as an alarm clock. It even had hidden mushrooms like the NES game.

I also had a Legend of Zelda one, I think it was a clamshell design.

[Anonymous No.5467514]

I’ve only ever played the G&W Gallery games but I like them a lot.

[Anonymous No.5467559]

>>5467514
that's fine. I'd say the gallery's have their place here too since they are basically rereleases with minimal alterations. I consider them one of the best ways to decide whether or not you like one game or another, and recomend to anyone looking to buy one to try it out on one of those games first. Especially since http://pica-pic.com/ doesn't have all of them (or many of them for that matter.)

>>5467485
I think that one was actually one of the few to have a mute feature. I might be thinking of mario bros though. Sky blue was a strange choice of color if you ask me, but as long as it's a polished surface it's fine with me.

[Anonymous No.5467615]

>>5467480
>G&W
>well made
>literally retarded

[Anonymous No.5467618]

Here's my Donkey Kong Jr. I got it for a little over $60 shipped because the "sound didn't work". I opened it up and the cords were ripped from the speaker. Quick soldering fixed it right up and it was good as new.
Little tip for all of you buyers out there; when it comes to buying a game & watch, value is skin deep. The only common internal issue I've ever come accross that can't be completely repaired or reasonably replaced is screen bleed. So value is in the case not the board.
Now if only I wasn't poor so I could afford a table top or panorama g&w.

[Anonymous No.5467660]

This was the best one. It had actual levels.

[Anonymous No.5467661]

>>5467660

[Anonymous No.5467675]

My favorite growing up was Donkey Kong, as it was one of the only ones that actually had a bottom screen and a top screen

[Anonymous No.5467771]

>>5467485
I was right. This is the Zelda one!

[Anonymous No.5467779]

Are these things viable as actual clock/alarm? I like to carry a travel alarm when I travel and it would be cool to have one that doubles as a game.

[Anonymous No.5467786]

picked this up for 30 bucks cause the screen was messed up. I just wanted to experience what a real g&w felt like without shelling out too much. It's suprising how comfortable these things are to hold compared to modern handhelds.

[Anonymous No.5467787]

>>5467779
Very viable. The Super Mario one I know for sure actually has a metal tab in the back so you can stand it up on a table. It blinks on and off and plays a "beep" like old school electronic watch alarms. Always worked for me as a kid just fine!

[Anonymous No.5467805]

>>5467771
And you don't have it anymore!? fuck! I can't find any of them for sale under a dollar!

>>5467786
looks like a bit of screen bleed. Maybe a weakened polarizer and a dirty stage/reflector. if you open it up and clean the stage and reflector if might be a bit clearer. The polarizer you'd have to replace, and the lcd screen can't be truely fixed but you might be able to minimize the bleed by sqceezing the lcd aroudn the affected area and moving the bleed around or out of the lcd. G&W lcd are raised though so idk how safe that would be.

[Anonymous No.5467810]

>>5467805
*hundred dollars

>>5467779
I use mine as a little clock all the time. I prefer to use my phone for alarms because I'm too afraid of destroying my g&w to stop the alarm

[Anonymous No.5467815]

>>5467805
thanks anon I really appreciate it but honestly I probably won't be bothered to clean/repair it. I only play it once in a while and I'd be pretty scared to break anything by opening it up.

[Anonymous No.5467821]

>>5467618
nice, I'm jealous. I always loved the donkey kong g&ws the most. They really capture the essence of the arcade games in such a simplified form.

[Anonymous No.5467832]

>>5467815
I can understand that. just know that they are resoundingly sturdy everywhere except for maybe the lcd screen. If you do work up the confidence I recommend rinsing the stage and polarizer off gently with your fingers, and maybe wiping down the reflector with a damp cloth. Then just take some rubbing alcohol and wipe down the button contacts and the buttons themselves. These are maintenance routines that are almost impossible to fuck up. The board rub down will make all controls much more responsive, and the stage obviously just becomes less dirty.

>>5467821
DKjr is actually pretty cheap on ebay if you're willing to buy a less than perfect one. usually those that are less than perfect are easily fixed,(see above information.)

[Anonymous No.5467867]

They are still out there, thrifters and flea nerds. I picked up a Donkey Kong 2 with a little bit of case damage for $45 2 weekends ago at the Laney Swap Meet in Oakland. Still is the best videogame finding flea in the world. Guy who had it always has great stuff.

[Anonymous No.5467918]

>>5467867
how bad was the chipping? That might not be that much better than what I find on ebay.

[Anonymous No.5467949]

Never had a G&W game. As I stated in another thread, I did have a giant After Burner tabletop machine. That was utter cack, so I went back to playing the two games pictured.

[Anonymous No.5467982]

I fucking love LCD/LSI games. My first one was this, Caveman, but I've owned various ones over the years. My favorite thing about them is collecting shots that show off all the graphics at once. It's art!

[Anonymous No.5467997]

You can get a Game & Watch, or you can just get a game watch.

[Anonymous No.5468093]

Sega: We want to license our games to a VR headset that can compete with Nintendo's Virtual Boy and play the latest state of the art games like Panzer Dragoon and Virtua Cop.

Tiger: Here's your VR headset, bro.

[Anonymous No.5468097]

>>5467771
My God. It's like an 80s DS.

[Anonymous No.5468148]

>>5468097
Funny you mention that. I believe the designers mentioned the various game and watches we're inspiration for their various handhelds, including the DS. The game was also plain fun as hell to play.

[Anonymous No.5468182]

I've posted my collection before, but here it is again.

Favorites are Mario Cement Factory and Snoopy Tennis. I did manage to beat Mario crystal once...it was not easy.

[Anonymous No.5468732]

How much longer can these things potentially last? Is it because they are so simple they dont have to worry about things like bit rot?

[Anonymous No.5468885]

>>5468732
Instead of bit rot, I believe lcd bleed or the batteries dying are the primary problem.

[Anonymous No.5468890]

>>5468732
You're younger than them and simple and your brain already has bit rot

[Anonymous No.5468931]

Is there anywhere out there to buy replacement polarisers for these things? Specifically Mario Bros dual screen.

[Anonymous No.5468953]

>>5468931
you can order replacement polarizers off ebay, buy if you want to do your whole collection I'd buy a sheet of polarizing film and an exacto knife and cut them to shape using your origianl polarizer as a stencil.

[Anonymous No.5469012]

I have a copy of parachute, I am not sure if it works anymore. I would have to get new batteries and try it

[Anonymous No.5469297]

>>5469012
when you find it let me know and post pictures, I'd be happy help get it up to par.

[Anonymous No.5469921]

>>5468931
Yes. There are literally thousands of factories churning out polarizers around the clock

[Anonymous No.5470553]

>>5468953
>>5469921
I've done this in the past but the problem is that the polariser needs to be rotated to a certain alignment with the screen to get the correct contrast so you end up with a lot of wasted material.

I'd prefer an off the shelf solution, lazy as that may seem.

[Anonymous No.5470796]

>>5467480
>What's your favorite?
Octopus or Parachute. Helmet is nice too
>What is in your collection?
I have all the game&watch collection games on gbc. I also own the cement factory keychain one
>Any advice for buyers?
Yeah, buy them off yahoo auctions

[Anonymous No.5470943]

>>5467618
I had pic related back then, I remember they were kinda expensive.

[Anonymous No.5470998]

Is this thread just for GnW or are these included?

[Anonymous No.5471118]

>>5470998
As long as you enjoyed it or admire it, feel free to post it.

[Anonymous No.5471256]

>>5470553
>you end up with a lot of wasted material.
I think you mean (You). I have hardly any wasted material because I know what I'm doing. And if an off "the shelf solution" doesn't exist you have to DIY.

[Anonymous No.5471326]

>>5471256
It's not a matter of knowing what you're doing, it's a matter of physics and the way polarisers work. Buy a random sheet of film? It may need to be rotated 45 degrees in order to work on your g&w lcd., That means a lot of wasted material when you cut it to size.

I spent nearly two decades working in the photographic industry btw so I have more knowledge of polarisers than you give me credit for.

[Anonymous No.5471418]

>>5471326
Sorry sport, it's all about knowing what you're doing. But since you don't you can't even comprehend what that means. Buy a random sheet of film? Nope. I buy a roll of exactly what I need. Because I know what I'm doing. But hey, you've been taking selfies for nearly 20 years so you know all about how LCDs work.

[Anonymous No.5471448]

>>5471418
Tell me where you buy a roll of specifically orientated polarising film.

Seriously, I'll suck your dick.

[Anonymous No.5471546]

>>5471418
I think what he's describing is seen in this vid at 3:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqAK5aFbtoo
If you buy a sheet of polarizing film you might have to rotate it for maximum contrast. Whether you rotate the film or not, you still have to trim it and create waste. You claim you have a way of doing it without waste... in other words, you know a place to buy polarizing film in any dimension and with the correct polarization. Wow! Mind sharing a link? Sounds useful.

[Anonymous No.5471698]

I cant believe there isnt an ultimate G&W gallery game with every single game in it and 1/1 graphics to the original
The GB ones are just adequate but not great

[Anonymous No.5471942]

>>5471698
Game and watch gallery 4 us pretty great imo. The gba graphics aren't great for emulating the deliciously smooth LCD etchings, but the game itself and the variety within is great.

[Anonymous No.5472103]

>>5471448
What orientation do you need?

>>5471546
Yup that's exactly what he's describing. A shining example of someone who doesn't know what their doing. Just like you're a shining example of someone who doesn't know reading comprehension. I buy a roll with the correct angle and cut it to the size I need. What, did you think i buy tiny 2" squares in rolls and iron them flat? What a fucktard.

[Anonymous No.5472328]

I forgot, what kind of batteries will work with Game and Watches? I know there's plenty of modern, easily found sizes that work, but which ones in particular?

[Anonymous No.5472450]

>>5472103

[Anonymous No.5472471]

>>5472328
SR44 (Silver Oxide). Renata is a good brand.
Don't bother with LR44 (Alkaline) as they won't last nearly as long.

[Anonymous No.5472476]

>>5467661
I have this but with transparent screen
I always panic and lose when I reach the final boss

[Anonymous No.5473060]

>>5471698
MAME has a lot of them now

[Anonymous No.5473437]

>>5471698
someone already started
http://pica-pic.com/

[Anonymous No.5473487]

>>5469297
>>5469012
Well what do you know. Got some new batteries and it started up just fine.
Aside from the obvious exterior scratches and burrs, this 40 year old piece of technology still works just fine.

[Anonymous No.5473507]

https://youtu.be/jML413m1Fb8

[Anonymous No.5473513]

>>5473487
yeah I couldn't think of anything to repair or maintain. like you said the worst of it is the face plate (IMO a bad face plate is worth replacing since that's 80% of the beauty, but if it doesn't bother you that's fine)
Are the buttons responsive or do they miss every now and again?

[Anonymous No.5473589]

>>5473513
They're fairly responsive, they will occasionally miss light and quick presses though, but as long as there's decent pressure they will work 100%

[Anonymous No.5473595]

>>5473513
They're fairly responsive, they will occasionally miss light and quick presses though, but as long as there's decent pressure they will work 100%.
Of course that might just be straight up not pressing the buttons all the way every time

[Anonymous No.5473610]

>>5473595
sounds like it's in pretty perfect condition then. all I would do is try to buff out some scratches, but really it seems pretty good.

[Anonymous No.5473962]

>>5467480
I'm not a collector and the only one I personally had was Octupus. I had lots of fun with it and other Game&Watch games from friends&relatives.

[Anonymous No.5474081]

Mario's bombs away is one of the most hilarious concepts for a game ever. I am amazed that came out less than 20 years after the Vietnam war ended, let alone with Mario being the main character

[Anonymous No.5474084]

I've always wanted the Octopus and Zelda ones, in a nostalgic way, despite being slightly zoomer

[Anonymous No.5474108]

Going by the g&w gallery games I would have to say that some of my favorite game & watches are
>donkey kong
>climber
>bomb sweeper
>mario's cement factory
>greenhouse
>zelda

[Anonymous No.5474417]

>>5470943
Where the hell were you living? I remember them being quite cheap. Even today you can find them cheap.

[Anonymous No.5474465]

Here's my stuff from my childhood. I gotta get batteries.

[Anonymous No.5474535]

>>5474417
Yeah, they were like $20 if I remember correctly, not exactly gonna break the bank. I had the silver Super Mario Bros one.

[Anonymous No.5475145]

>>5473437
I know about that and its pretty neat but the selection is not the best also online only, I want to download them
>>5473060
Really? i need to look into that

[Anonymous No.5477043]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.5477890]

>>5474081
excuse me, what?

[Anonymous No.5477895]

Are 303/357 batteries the the closest approximation to SR44s?
I've kind of found that 303/357's seem to be a bit big for Game&Watch cases, whereas 386 fit a little better with the same circumference.

[Anonymous No.5478492]

Anyone have a g&w wishlist, or something similar?
Personally, I would like nintendo do another gallery game or ports. Really get as close to the original LCD graphics as possible.

[Anonymous No.5478757]

>>5470943
>>5474417
>>5474535
Those keychain game and watch thingies are still quite easy to find. I got a re-issue of Super Mario Bros. and DK Junior some years ago when they did another reprint in 2014. Not exactly the same experience as original G&W modules from the 80s and early 90s but it works well as both games and watches. The only annoying thing is that I keep forgetting I still need to get new batteries for them.

[Anonymous No.5479704]

Awesome memories. I remember going to school and playing with the different games that the other mates had. The double deckers were the bomb. Latter there was a larger version of Mario's game where the playing area was see through and which was a joy to play.

[Anonymous No.5481494]

>>5467514
>tfw I've only played the gallery games
>I've never seen a real G&W system
>I don't even have that Club Nintendo reprint of Ball
It's hurts.

[Anonymous No.5482014]

People often shit on the tiger electronics handhelds or other 3rd party ones, but the designers did an amazing job considering what they had to work with. An extremely small budget, limited logic and a custom 1 bit lcd, they had to try and recreate the original game as close as possible. Its actually really amazing. Even games like megaman are actually quite fun when you take a step back and realise what they had to work with

[Anonymous No.5482332]

>>5481494
In all fairness, ball is boring and there's like 80 better game &watch games

[Anonymous No.5482452]

Jeez. Fire attack gets really brutal in difficulty once you hit around 700 points.
Even on game a

[Anonymous No.5482702]

>>5467982
This looks cool as fuck.

[Anonymous No.5482720]

>>5467618
Didn't believe you when you made it sound like 60 was a good deal. Holy shit I paid $3 for mine at a garage sale. Probably 15-20 years ago. Got a cool retro Kid Cuisine frisbee too. Time to sell that fucker. Probably my favorite G&W. Also own FIRE (mom called it burning babies) and Mario Cement Factory. Both were my parents who had them since they were in stores. No plan to buy any more.

[Anonymous No.5482934]

>>5467480
I used to have the Donkey Kong rip off called Mighty Kong made by Radio Shack back in the 1990s. Dunno whatever happened to it. I recall it being pretty fun.

Now I have the LCD version of Centipede that is currently sold at Wal-Mart and is shaped like a little arcade cabinet.

[Anonymous No.5483392]

>>5482014
I designed LCD games in the 80's and early 90's. We made no effort to "recreate the original game as close as possible". It was all about shitting out cheap shit for poorfags. More detailed designs were regularly scrapped and scaled down to fit on a cheaper part. This did require quite a bit of skill on the part of the lcd mask designers and coders but this was all to save a few pennies. I actually designed a couple games for Sanyo parts that had actual sound channels. Both were redone on Sharp parts with pong tier two tone capabilities to save a few pennies. None of my games ever made it to production with the two channel tracker sound as the developer originally intended.

[Anonymous No.5483613]

>>5483392
Do you remember any that you worked on?

[Anonymous No.5483669]

>>5478757
Just replaced the batteries and both DK Jr. and Super Mario Bros. are functional again. Still don't know how to set up the alarm on them but the clock and the game are both operational and god damn it they're still a lot of fun to play.
If it weren't for me being poor and bad at handling money at the moment I would've bought a ton more Nintendo mini classics like Mario's Cement Factory or Popeye.

[Anonymous No.5486275]

>>5482720
I know what you mean. When I started getting into them I couldn't believe how much they were going for. It's likely because people either utterly destroy theirs or they think theirs can't be fixed when it could.

[Anonymous No.5486294]

>>5467485
I had this one, paid like $30 for it at macys and it's just making jumps over and over, waste of money.
also had donkey kong, got lots of use out of it until i lost the battery cover.
>>5477890
that supposed to be offensive to th viet cong? fucking terrorists anyways.

[Anonymous No.5487637]

>>5486294
I would think that the vietnamese have bigger issues these days than how the vietcong were represented in a 40 year old video game