Sony PlayStation Classic

[Anonymous No.5253460]

What went wrong?

[Anonymous No.5253470]

>>5253460
Horrid selection of games that then only run in PAL mode. It's comedy gold.

[Anonymous No.5253482]

>>5253470
Does the Japanese version also include PAL titles?

[Anonymous No.5253490]

>>5253482
No the Jap version runs in NTSC at least but the game selection is still a joke. Ohh and there's barely any memory on the thing to hack your own games into it.

[Anonymous No.5253493]

>>5253460
>never the mini-console
>never drew a dime
>stole a FOSS emulator core from literal who despite Sony already having in-house emulator core for PSP/Vita
>shit game lineup even in Japan
>high reliance on PAL versions on English version of the system
>jannetty to SNES Classic performance-wise
>cringe non-dualshock controller
>shit compatibility on sideloaded games

[Anonymous No.5253518]

>>5253470
add to that no dual shock or even dual analog controller
>>5253490
game selection is better if you like jrpgs

[Anonymous No.5253526]

honestly it's the lack of overall care put into the piece of shit.
>emulator pulled from the internet
>no menu music, the most barebones default emu interface
It's literally the quickest, dirtiest implementation they could make in time for Christmas, and so they could go do something else after lunch

[Anonymous No.5253582]

>>5253460
Daily Reminder

[Anonymous No.5253609]

>>5253518
>already too expensive and underpowered
>wants to add motors and sticks
It amazes me people are retarded enough to think there will be an N64 Mini

[Anonymous No.5253616]

>Sony
>making good decisions

[Anonymous No.5253636]

Trying to milk gay ass nostalgia babies when most of them are nintoddlers

[Anonymous No.5253654]

>>5253460
Target price matches walmart.com. cartwheel app takes 40% more off. MFW I can lick Sony's scrotum for only $35 today before the deal expires.

[Anonymous No.5253889]

>>5253460
I just got one and I like it a lot. And considering that it's already being hacked, it's even better. For right now the games have to be kept on a memory stick, but you can play whatever PS1 game you want, so it seems so far, I haven't done any testing myself yet. It's still in the "simply follow these 59 steps" phase of hacking, but it's looking good. Either use a keyboard, and failing that there's a hack through a flash drive to give direct controller access to the hidden menu. On the menu all the issues can be addressed; turn 50hz to 60hz; etc.

[Anonymous No.5253896]

>>5253636
>gay ass nostalgia babies
That's this whole board

[Anonymous No.5253937]

>>5253460
>bad emulation
>bad game choices
>no power adapter
>50hz
>modern day Sony making decisions
was doomed from the start

[Anonymous No.5253950]

>>5253937
>>bad emulation
It's pretty good actually.

>>5253937
>>bad game choices
I don't understand that sentiment.

>>5253937
>>no power adapter
Yeah, that sucked, but I got lucky and had the right spare power module. Make sure it's a 5 volt.

>>5253937
>>50hz
You can change that in the hidden menu.

[Anonymous No.5253972]

>>5253950
>I don't understand that sentiment.
are you serious? All the good games that could’ve been put back n there and what they decided on was that crap lineup? You have to be joking.

[Anonymous No.5253995]

>>5253654
It'll be down to forty bucks within the next two months anyway, without any special deal.

[Anonymous No.5254007]

>>5253636
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.5254041]

>>5253460
Nintendo proves once again that artificial scarcity always works. SONY BTFO by bean curd bois.

[Anonymous No.5254050]

>>5253636
>he says on the nostalgia baby board

[Anonymous No.5254062]

>>5254041
If Nintendo's classics had been bungled as hard as Sony's, they'd have Urban Champion as a classic or a PAL version of DKC running at 30fps.

[Anonymous No.5254079]

>>5253460
PlayStation owes its customers an apology for this shit. I just don't understand how they can fuck so many things up with this thing, game selection aside.

[Anonymous No.5254108]

>>5254079
The list of things that Sony needs to apologize for over the past 20 years is a mile long.

[Anonymous No.5254132]

>>5253582
based, now throw away every (s)nes mini because is even more underpowered and useless

[Anonymous No.5254301]

>>5254132
But what else will I play my Playstation games on?

[Anonymous No.5254309]

>>5253654
This varies by store. My store apparently caught on to this and won't stack the discount.

[Anonymous No.5254321]

>>5253460
The main issue seems to be thay Sony wanted to mass produce these things on the cheap. OK, fine, but that ended up extending to the library as well as the hardware.

Basically, we ended up with a couple good games to draw people in, and a meteic fuck ton of "oh yeah, that existed" games that Sony either owned the locwnse to, or could aquire cheaply.

The problem being that the cheap lineup isn't moving units. A more costly, license wise, lineup would have moved a lot more units. And possibly even allowed them to charge more. The point being that you need to spend money to make money. Sony dodn't wanna spend, so they lost out. And they are too blind t see this. So that's that.

On a personal note; classic mini consoles are fucking cancer, and nothing of value was lost.

A $50 used PSP is a better PS1 classic than the pile of shit they actually released, and has existed for years already. Better lineup, better price, better quality and a lot more.

If Sony had any real brains, they could have just shoved PSTVs into a PS1 shaped ahell, added compatability with more games, a PS1 themed front end and it would have been not only more cost effective to them, but moved a lot more units. Thus earning more money in the most obvious fucking way possible.

Oh fucking well. I have a PS3, so I can play any PS1 games I want anyway, digital or physical. Same goes for most people inclined to have actually bought the classic. So what was the point again?

[Anonymous No.5254396]

>>5253493
And don't forget that they're asking 100$ for this piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.5254407]

>>5253460
The big M rating on the box.
Parents/grandparents aren't going to pick one up on a whim as a gift for a young child. They'll either buy an NES mini or one of those atgames things.

[Anonymous No.5254408]

>>5254396
Not to sound contrarian but it isn’t being sold at that price anymore. It’s been knocked down $40 and that is nationally known news story.

[Anonymous No.5254416]

>>5254408
Forgotten about that.
Still, if they really want me to pay for that, i'd spend at best 15$. Anything higher than that is a scam.

[Anonymous No.5254427]

>>5253493
HOLY FINNA BASEDOLA

[Anonymous No.5254462]

>>5254062
>PAL version of DKC running at 30fps
Impossible

[Anonymous No.5254468]

No Gran Turismo, CTR, or Tomb Raider

[Anonymous No.5254475]

The exact same thing that went wrong with Playstation All Stars.

[Anonymous No.5254494]

>>5254321

Sunk costs. Based on prior outings sony tv, psp, vita it's selling appropriately. I mean Playstation sold ok but most people are nostalgic for the PS2 really.

[Anonymous No.5254512]

>>5254475
Being a cheap, heartless copy of something Nintendo did better.

[Anonymous No.5254553]

>>5254468
>Gran Turismo
Even if they were willing to spend the money required for licensing all the brands, any text referencing Daimler-Chrysler would probably be a no-go for both Daimler AG and Fiat Chrysler.

[Anonymous No.5254584]

>>5253460
People wanting something to complain about.
If you wanted a "perfect" list of games to come with the system why would you buy one of these toys in the first place?

I think it's a beautiful replica not that I would ever throw my money at it but it wasn't made for me.

[Anonymous No.5254597]

What went wrong is that whoever was put in charge of this fucking abortion of a product either lacked any frame of reference as to how these games are supposed to look and run, or flat-out didn't give a shit. This was an obvious "me too" cash-grab on the heels of Nintendo's success, and a very convenient one for Sony, as the mighty PS4 is mysteriously incapable of running PS1 discs in a software emulator, something the PS3 could do from Day One in 2006. (And don't forget to rebuy your emulated PS2 ports!)

At least the UI is authentic.

[Anonymous No.5254603]

>>5254553
Just changing GT (assuming they still have the source code LOOOL) to be license compliant would be more effort than they put into this entire project

[Anonymous No.5254605]

I can't even get BleemSync to work on the one I found in the trash.

[Anonymous No.5254614]

people that work for major game companies have no clue what made old games great. and they are all software people, hardware guys have gone extinct.

[Anonymous No.5254637]

>>5253609
there will be a n64 mini eventually, when nintendo needs to close its numbers in green

[Anonymous No.5254641]

>>5253609
Nintendo got N64 ROMs to run in an emulator on the Wii, which if you remember was little more than a souped-up GameCube. 12 years later, it shouldn't be much trouble to do the same thing with a cheap ARM SoC.

[Anonymous No.5254646]

>>5253950
>it's pretty good actually
Hell no. Even ePSXe is better on the mobile platform than ReARMed. And they managed to somehow make it worse in some respects than the version of ReARMed we already use, if that SNES Classic comparison is to be believed.

[Anonymous No.5254685]

>>5253460
Because of remakes, re releases, and licensing difficulties, this thing was going to be missing a few games people really wanted on it. Sony’s problem is they have no memorable 1st party games on PS1 except Twisted Metal 2 and GT1&2.

- the Gran Turismo games wouldn’t be there because of licensed cars, that would be really expensive.

- the Tony Hawk games wouldn’t be there because of the soundtrack filled with licensed music and names/likenesses of real people and the royalties associated with that.

- the Spyro games wouldn’t be there because the reignited trilogy.

- the crash games wouldn’t be there because the n sane trilogy.

- SotN wouldn’t be there because the re release of SotN with RoB that Konami dropped.

- the mega man games wouldn’t be there because the collection Capcom released.

- the Ace Combat games and Ape Escape won’t work because no analog sticks.

[Anonymous No.5254704]

>>5254685
>adhering to copyright laws
well there's your problem

[Anonymous No.5254713]

>>5254685
That said there are some games that could’ve been on there that really would’ve been cool to have like:

>brave fencer musashi
>silent hill
>resident evil 2
>parasite eve 1&2 (Japan got 1)
>puzzle bobble 4
>mr domino
>gta 2
>roll away
>disruptor
>driver 2
>metal slug x
>twisted metal 2

[Anonymous No.5254715]

>>5253460
PlayStation 1 games haven't aged well and normies have only just realised this.

[Anonymous No.5254717]

>>5254713
>gta2
i loved gta2 but my god was the psx version garbage compared to the pc one

[Anonymous No.5254721]

>>5254637
I want a Gameboy mini first. And the original Gameboy, none of that colour or later versions.

[Anonymous No.5254737]

>>5254713
would’ve been cool to get to get some Japan exclusives like:

the obvious meme ones like
>pepsi man
>lsd dream emulator
>mizzurna falls

but also lesser known stuff like
>yuuyami doori tankentai
>king of crusher
>rapid angel
>racing lagoon
>love or destroy

[Anonymous No.5254751]

>>5254737
or some other US releases I forgot that would’ve been cool:

>chu lip
>ghost in the shell

[Anonymous No.5254763]

>>5254715
only people nostalgic for 5th gen 3D games will enjoy 5th gen 3D games. Those early 3D games have mega stiff controls and weird button assignments. Also 3D graphics from that era are a tough sell. But normies would’ve bought this thing and play it for all of 1 week and then forget it. Same happens with all these retro plug and plays.

But the PS1 has a great library for people who are into these early games.

[Anonymous No.5254781]

It's terrible as far as recreation goes. Many games run at slower frame rates than the real hardware, and has PAL games. The controllers are neat though and it looks cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LWs2TXlTRw

[Anonymous No.5254787]

>>5254781
The actual thing you'd compare it to is an emulator on your computer for free.

A used PS3 will play the games better, but you still have to buy the games separately.

[Anonymous No.5254959]

>>5254781
I appreciate the technical analysis, but I gotta say that it's mind-numbingly boring and tedious listening to him drone on. Yeah, we get it, the PS1 Classic doesn't emulate perfectly with its onboard emulator, but I still like it. I never had a PlayStation, so in a way it feels it makes up for me missing that bus. Back in the day I was a true Nintendo fanboy, but I my defense I had no reason to trust Sony.

[Anonymous No.5254986]

>>5254685
Ace Combat doesn't require analog controls. The first game doesn't even support it.

[Anonymous No.5254992]

>>5253518
>add to that no dual shock or even dual analog controller
This is a good thing, the original Playstation controller had a better form factor and Ape Escape is overrated.

[Anonymous No.5254997]

>>5254721
But why, though? What's wrong with just throwing GBC games on it too?

[Anonymous No.5255001]

>>5254475
That's not fair, PSASBR at least had Sir Daniel. This massive fucking abortion didn't even have that going for it.

[Anonymous No.5255004]

>>5254751
Chulip was a PS2 game.

[Anonymous No.5255006]

>>5253470
How is that comedy gold?

[Anonymous No.5255007]

>>5254416
Why?

[Anonymous No.5255012]

>>5253460
Words cannot express how happy I am to be pleased by the machine and the butthurt reactions to it. The thing is a quad core with a gig of RAM, it's already cracked and hacked and it's got more than enough power to perfectly play not only PS1 games, but many others. As it is, it's as good as what Nintendo put out except the emulation isn't pefect I know, but who cares? Sony has delivered a device that can do a ton and it can easily become an emulation device. The controllers even have micro connections internally so they can be replaced and the controllers can even be used with a PC. Keep hating, though, it makes it easier to pick them up.

[Anonymous No.5255015]

>>5255012
>Sony has delivered a device that can do a ton and it can easily become an emulation device.
*I meant, emulation station.

[Anonymous No.5255050]

People have weird memories around here, there isn’t a single PS1 title that “required” a DS yet I’ve read a dozen comments in the last few weeks from people who think they existed.

[Anonymous No.5255056]

>>5254408
It's actually $60. People getting it for less than $40 are using a 40% off coupon on top of that.

[Anonymous No.5255128]

>>5254685
Is this in the collection? If no why not?

[Anonymous No.5255130]

>>5255056
Thanks for the correction anon

[Anonymous No.5255135]

>>5255050
Maybe it's you that doesn't exist, buddy.

[Anonymous No.5255138]

Sony executives. Sony executives are what went wrong.

[Anonymous No.5255202]

>>5253460
>What went wrong?
Early 3D games look shit.

[Anonymous No.5255982]

>>5253460
Made them cheaply as a obvious cash grab. Couldn't even be bothered to use the proper region versions, and the console was so lazily put together than you can just plug in a keyboard and press esc to get the restricted settings of the system, like filters and extra save files.

Sony put in the bare minimum, gave fewer games than the SNES and NES classic, had none of the charming UI or settings of the nintendo plugin consoles that were easy to access, and expected people to shovel 100 bucks for it.

Hell, the game had over 20 other games planned to be added but they didn't. If this did have a 40+ game library it might have given more incentive to buy it for that steep price.

But either way, it's just Sony copying Nintendo without putting the effort Nintendo did into it, as usual. The system is worth 30 bucks at best.

[Anonymous No.5256036]

>>5255138
Well this is modern day now California HQ’d PlayStation branch of Sony we are talking about here. So...

[Anonymous No.5256037]

>>5255128
This would've been cool to have on there.

[Anonymous No.5256039]

>>5253493
HOLY DING-DONG DIDDLY BASEDOLA

[Anonymous No.5256246]

>>5254685
What about WipEout? IIRC, the first game only used in-house music, so no licensing issues.
Unless Sony wants to push people towards Omega Collection, which in itself is a rehash too.

[Anonymous No.5256274]

>>5253493
Based and /asp/pilled

[Anonymous No.5256415]

nothing really went wrong, it just hasn't been hacked yet

after this thing is hacked everyone who isn't holding a grudge will be happy with it

[Anonymous No.5256420]

>>5253950
>emulator that has jittery frame pacing issues in both PAL and NTSC games
>It's pretty good actually.
Not even trying.

[Anonymous No.5257702]

>>5253470
>>5253518

What in god's name were they thinking when they made this thing.

[Anonymous No.5257724]

It was like half the size of the original. Barely a replica.

[Anonymous No.5258961]

I like it.

[Anonymous No.5258965]

>>5256415
>after this thing is hacked everyone who isn't holding a grudge will be happy with it
Already being done. These things are going to be in demand.

[Anonymous No.5258971]

>>5253460
Sony fans aren't interested in toys like Nintoddlers

[Anonymous No.5258973]

>>5258971
>Sony fans aren't interested in toys like Nintoddlers
>not buying both

It's like some of you want to be unhappy.

[Anonymous No.5258976]

>>5254416
kek no, two USB controllers are worth more than $15, even ignoring the value of the SBC (way more powerful than SNES mini)

[Anonymous No.5258990]

>>5254597
are you implying switch cannot run emulators? I'm going to bring this breakthrough news to the retroarch team, they must stop their port immediately
the gaming industry is greedy, shocking I know, but why are you singling out Sony when Nintendo does this and worse shutting down ROM sites?