/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5091458]

What are your favorite mysterious / unexplained things?

[Anonymous No.5091464]

[Anonymous No.5091472]

>>5091458
but you cant go in that painting

[Anonymous No.5091481]

Why OP is always a faggot.

[Anonymous No.5091491]

The entirety of Wet Dry World.

[Anonymous No.5091496]

>>5091458

[Anonymous No.5091502]

Left over assets and unused areas in Goldeneye's silo level indicate that at some point in development Goldeneye may have been intended to be a rail shooter, but Rare has never commented
Pic is the unused ventilation shaft that you were supposed to start the level in

[Anonymous No.5091503]

>>5091502
Wasn't that confirmed already? The ability to shoot body parts and guns out of the enemy hands came from that phase.

[Anonymous No.5091531]

>>5091503
Maybe it was confirmed. I'm not sure, I used to be really keen on reading into the Goldeneye mysteries during the mid 2000s but the scene mostly died and I lost interest, so I'm not really up to date.
In that case, one thing I do know that was never confirmed is the roof of this silo (couldn't find a better pic).
Switch from a gun to unarmed, or equip general ouromovs key and press B, and the roof of this silo will open...
You were probably meant to stop a missile launch at some point, but if that's the case why does the roof even open? That would make sense if you were supposed to launch the missile, but why would bond launch a missile?

Goldeneye is filled with really odd shit left over from the beta, and rareware so so ass-backwards secretive at the time that we'll probably never really know.

[Anonymous No.5091538]

>>5091531
maybe it was originally going to be open and bond had to close it.

pd also had some cool mysterious stuff

[Anonymous No.5091551]

>>5091538
I wonder what caused people to search so intensely and data mine rare games so much. Lots of games have 1 or 2 "weird" occurrences but the amount of mysteries dug-up and speculated upon regarding Goldeneye and PD is astounding

[Anonymous No.5091554]

[Anonymous No.5091560]

>>5091458
looks like a background from yoshi's island on snes

[Anonymous No.5091567]

>>5091554

[Anonymous No.5091573]

i really want to know why this is there

[Anonymous No.5091579]

>>5091573
I cum on cat he hiss at penis and scratch tree

[Anonymous No.5091582]

>>5091573
Something's hidden in the tree under the claw marks? Could we not see it without the arrow and gigantic circle??

[Anonymous No.5091634]

[Anonymous No.5091657]

>>5091634
This mystery is pretty much solved. You'd go to the docks and take the green boat to the island to destroy the gun so that you could safely take off from the runway later on.
It was probably scrapped because it would have been too intense for a first level. You can still replicate it with gameshark codes and get the boat moving

[Anonymous No.5091696]

[Anonymous No.5091875]

>>5091496
Heh. Got that Achievement the other day.

[Anonymous No.5091876]

>>5091538
Cheese is 100% debunked when Rare Replay came out

[Anonymous No.5091878]

so many mysteries in Tomba!
The mystery slabs... the unused village... this unreachable part of Masakari Jungle...

[Anonymous No.5091883]

>>5091878
Did you notice how in many games pigs are evil?

[Anonymous No.5091887]

>>5091883
Such as?

[Anonymous No.5091912]

>>5091887
Not him but:
Diddy Kong Racing, Battletoads, Star Fox, 64 Zelda, and Mario Land 2 all come to mind

[Anonymous No.5091915]

>>5091912
Oh, and Duke Nukem 3D.

[Anonymous No.5091919]

>>5091915
I'd really prefer it if you'd be quiet.

[Anonymous No.5091927]

>>5091912
>>5091915
Thank you for the list of evil pigs in video games.

[Anonymous No.5091928]

>>5091696
That's not a mystery. It was supposed to be a super hard secret maze that possibly led players to a room that told them to call a number and say a word. If they did they would get a prize, but soon after the game came out hackers found a way to see all the sprites in the game and found it without actually completing the level so the competition was ultimately scrapped.

http://wolfenstein.wikia.com/wiki/AARDWOLF

[Anonymous No.5091954]

[Anonymous No.5091989]

>>5091954
After watchin pannekoek's videos about textures and how the game handles camera angles, I noticed that was just the resting place for the fixed camera. It always starts at that height in the foyer.
Other areas with random/ weird walls protuding, ledges appearing or so on are also just camera spots. If you go on first person mode wherver there is a fixed camera and stare at it you can see the level takes on some odd geometry. Guess they just wanted to add some flavour to this one.

[Anonymous No.5092009]

Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed

I enjoy its rubber band AI that has me placing worse when I finish faster.

[Anonymous No.5092157]

[Anonymous No.5092208]

[Anonymous No.5092218]

[Anonymous No.5092284]

>>5091573
I think it was supposed to be in the Lost Woods, there're wolfos there.

This game went through 4 directors, they really messed with the game.

[Anonymous No.5092318]

>>5091919
you're a really cool guy with friends and an enjoyable job

[Anonymous No.5092323]

>>5092318
>he doesnt know the reference

[Anonymous No.5092325]

>>5092318
5:15 seconds for the reference, but the whole video is pretty amusing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H50nqenYMDM

[Anonymous No.5092349]

>>5092325
I like how Caveman was actually playing along with Chibi at first. In fact both of them have a lot of chemistry together, both are autistic, the difference is Caveman is more introverted and chibi more extroverted, but both are a spaghetti fest
They don't realize they could be making a duo comedy and getting lots of money.

[Anonymous No.5092453]

>>5091458
It's the song of storms

[Anonymous No.5092468]

>>5092325
I forgot about the jumping jacks.

[Anonymous No.5092472]

>>5092323
>>5092325
it's not that I didn't know the reference, it's more that I didn't agree with your usage of it in the context you chose. feel free to insult me for it if you'd like. Have a nice day

[Anonymous No.5092478]

>>5091458
that's a background from yoshi's story man

[Anonymous No.5092496]

>>5092472
...nah, you didn't get the reference ma boi

[Anonymous No.5092658]

>>5092218

Houston?!

[Anonymous No.5092725]

This is a good thread, lets keep it on track people

[Anonymous No.5092812]

>>5092157
Always been curious about this trap door

[Anonymous No.5092864]

>>5092472
What an embarrassing thing to post.

[Anonymous No.5092865]

>>5092472
I wasn't the guy with the greentext, just the anon who posted the video. I had no intention of insulting you, just wanted to share the video for people who haven't seen it.

[Anonymous No.5092873]

>>5092468
This follow-up video is worth watching too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8rUzA8O_aQ

[Anonymous No.5092885]

>>5092873
Actually caveman is a pretty chill runner and the playstation games he runs are obscure and underrated (hidden gems)

[Anonymous No.5092905]

>>5091458
It's just the wallpaper of the room up those stairs what's the mystery?

[Anonymous No.5092928]

>>5092284
That makes sense. Tree meant to hint at wolves in the woods later gets removed for some reason and re-used on that little island. So many "mysteries" are little more than accidentally leaving in a prop from one level in a different one.

[Anonymous No.5093019]

>>5092928
yes... I think it was Aonuma that said they didn't believe that they could pull the "together".

There're a lot of patches in Ocarina of time... since the medallions used to be key items to enter dungeons and stuff... since they removed it, you had to play musics to open dungeons and stuff.

I'd love to play all of the betas, just to see how much it changed from the original vision/director...

Child Link wasn't supposed to be in the game, there's even one heart piece in Gerudo's... and that's why the Gerudos pass out, but don't die when you hit then with a bow... I deduced that they were supposed to be knocked down with the slingshot.

[Anonymous No.5093026]

>>5091496
lol

[Anonymous No.5093032]

>>5092812

It's just above the hackable computers. Most likely a remnant like the grate near where you put the bug out in that building, as a means for you to know there was more level

[Anonymous No.5093087]

What does it mean /vr/?

[Anonymous No.5093093]

>>5092905
MIND BLOWEN

[Anonymous No.5093118]

>>5093087
>That you're in the entrance to Bowser's lair?

[Anonymous No.5093150]

>>5092325
the guy on the left seems innocent and just tried to make a laugh and make the event less awkward, i dont get the hate on him. moustache man was being super serious for playing a video game

[Anonymous No.5093162]

>>5093150
Speedrunners literally think they're helping cure cancer or some insanity.

[Anonymous No.5093168]

>>5092905
they mystery is why is there a painting of it

[Anonymous No.5093194]

>>5093162
i doubt it i think they just want to be taken seriously for spending 10+ hrs daily playing the same single player video game until they've "mastered" it

[Anonymous No.5093213]

>>5093087
Bowser killed Cubone's mom but Cubone(pictured) dodged and escaped.

[Anonymous No.5093250]

>>5093194
They do those "charity events" though, I'm sure some of them think that's actually doing something for some people. Keep in mind that the idea of "charity events" fools a lot of real adults in the respectable world - no, running a marathon does not help people in need, it's unrelated.

What the speed runners should do if they want to be taken seriously is first of all set aside an amount of time, let's say 30 hours a week, which you are not supposed to exceed. That's almost 4.5 hours a day, which is very generous to be devoting to any hobby, or you can do 9 hours every two days. While enforcement would be an issue, they could at least have the rules in place and the cheaters would know they were cheating. Because the way it is right now, it's all about pushing and incentivizing people to throw their lives away all for a little bit of attention, a little spot in the limelight. And you know these people don't have stellar social lives, it's basically the weakest people in society that are getting baited into this and before they know it they're 35 and have no discernible skills/accomplishments apart from a few world records on kirby and some japanese puzzle game noone ever heard of.

So a time limit would clean up their image quite a lot. Yes you can cheat, but it's a very loserly type of cheating. They might even take it further and insist that you must have employment or a steady source of income in the past 6 months to qualify but I don't know about this bit.

[Anonymous No.5093263]

>>5093250
they do speedruns and ask for donations and the donations go to cancer charities. is this not how agdq works?

so in a very and most incontrovertibly concrete way these guys *are* "doing something for some people".

[Anonymous No.5093268]

>>5093263
doesn't most of the money donated go to cost of running the event in the first place?

[Anonymous No.5093280]

>>5093263
But they're not doing anything directly for the charities, other people are donating to the charities. If they were donating to the players and then those players were giving to the charities in their own time then yes I guess you could say they are.

I not a great believer in doing something completely unrelated to to fundraise, like charity walks or the "ice bucket challenge", it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

[Anonymous No.5093295]

>>5093168
just a decorative painting that reuses the texture, like a handful of other ones.

[Anonymous No.5093312]

>>5093280
It brings in people to give money. No one is going to give $500k to a guy on YouTube for standing in a room talking about video games, barring ad revenue. Same thing with carnies, no one is going to give a carnie $10 unless they get to throw a bent dart at a balloon(or get a bag of weed from them). It's just a way to pay to get entertained, feel accomplished when they finally hand you a good dart/say they'll do something good with the money, and ultimately get to walk away with a fiberglass teddy bear or have your name mentioned in a video.

That being said I used to really like agdq, I got started watching them for that Mega Man X speed run. I was never into speed running before but I can blast through it in under an hour. I played that game every day after school between 94 and 96, eventually I ran out of paper to write my passwords for my current run on so I just started trying to beat the game in the hour and a half I had. I got it down so good I still had time to go out and throw a football through a tire swing. I honestly didn't even know people did things like that competitively til a few years ago. I can appreciate the effort and the techniques, the muscle memory. Fuck, I blogposted AND redditspaced.

[Anonymous No.5093424]

>>5093312
Cancer charities are bullshit in general, how many middle men between Joe Citizen giving $5 and someone getting a cure? Even the final result after all "overheads" is still spent on some asshole professors BMW because even those noble, noble people gotta live in style.

Charities are bullshit in general anyway because people have a set dollar value on guilt, and if one charity takes that $ then the person doesnt feel the need to donate to some *other* charity. In other words, there is a certain amount that gets spent on charities every year, and them vying over it helps nobody.

[Anonymous No.5093428]

>>5093424
Oh, and cancer charities are the fuckin worst because a large portion of them just go to pharmaceutical companies private research departments, you're literally paying money to a company that will sell the chemo back to you for $20k a month.

[Anonymous No.5093430]

>>5093428
you know some charities exist to help people pay for treatment

[Anonymous No.5093453]

>>5091912
And mother 3

[A noun a mouse No.5093454]

Where did my dad go?

[Anonymous No.5093465]

[Anonymous No.5093479]

>>5093087
It's 8-bit Mario jumping over 8-bit Bowser's 8-bit fire.

[Anonymous No.5093508]

>>5093465

[Anonymous No.5093604]

>>5091531
the goldeneye scene is more alive than ever, there is even a fucking level editor

[Anonymous No.5093618]

>>5091883
I wonder..

[Anonymous No.5093631]

>>5092157
am I the only one who thought it's just a pit of a mechanical workshop?
it's a garage with a truck parked outside
also the mainframes are under the window, there is nothing below it

[Anonymous No.5093634]

>>5093168
teleporter

[Anonymous No.5093653]

one of the most intriguing mysteries of all time is the hidden grotto in OOT that looks very different than all the others and has a prism-like rainbow texture not seen anywhere else in game

[Anonymous No.5093661]

>>5091458
I mistakenly thought I was on /x but turns out I accidentally am on /vr.

Anyway the clawmarks on the tree and/or the bird clock in OoT, though I know they kinda have partial explanations. They were the biggest mysteries for me as a kid, though.

Anyway this is the best thread on /x.

[Anonymous No.5093672]

>>5093661
>bird clock in OoT
what bird clock

[Anonymous No.5093675]

>>5093672
Above the gate leading to Hyrule Castle as Kid Link. There is a bird statue at the top. If you climb up and investigate it, it tells you the time just like the Gossip Stones do. But you probably realize what I'm talking about now.

[Anonymous No.5093689]

>>5093508
Based
I was actually thinking about posting that one after the pilotwings mt rushmore

[Anonymous No.5093708]

>>5093653
There are multiple grottos that look like that and the rays always look that way, too.

[Anonymous No.5093735]

>>5093708
tell me the location of another grotto that has those metallic blue walls. the only one is in Sacred Forest Meadow. im not talking about the rays, im talking about the walls

[Anonymous No.5093841]

>>5093263
I can't prove this but I'm willing to bet that a whole bunch of that money don't make it to no charities.

[Anonymous No.5093846]

In Tales of Phantasia, in the Elven Village there's a closed door that's never refered to in the whole game.

[Anonymous No.5093852]

>>5093846
Like niggas can’t lock their doors so you don’t just bust all in there and shit

[Anonymous No.5093853]

[Anonymous No.5093953]

>>5093465
Hit Mario with a missile and see what happens

[Anonymous No.5094027]

>>5091458
The Big(foot) Kahuna

[Anonymous No.5094083]

>>5091481
This

[Anonymous No.5094086]

>>5094027

those gamefaqs threads were wild back in the day

[Anonymous No.5094087]

>>5093465

this one blew my mind as a kid

[Anonymous No.5094116]

>>5093465
Lore status: Deepest.

[Anonymous No.5094127]

>>5093453
not retro

[Anonymous No.5094268]

>>5091502
>at some point in development Goldeneye may have been intended to be a rail shooter

Yes, Goldeneye was originally planned as an on-rails shooter.

[Anonymous No.5094269]

>>5091531
>Maybe it was confirmed. I'm not sure, I used to be really keen on reading into the Goldeneye mysteries during the mid 2000s but the scene mostly died and I lost interest, so I'm not really up to date.

It says on the Wikipedia page that it was planned as an on-rails shooter.

[Anonymous No.5094279]

>>5094268
goldeneye is similar to a light gun game because you're supposed to get a shot on all the baddies so they'll be unable to shoot back

[Anonymous No.5094371]

>>5093735
I think the one in Kakariko is like that too.

[Anonymous No.5094373]

>>5093661
What are their partial explanations?

[Anonymous No.5094382]

>>5094373
For the tree, as was mentioned earlier, it may have been a tree meant for the Lost Woods. It's also been thought that maybe it was meant to be something a different Water Temple boss may have done and it was just never fully fleshed out. The former is probably more likely though.

For the bird it kinda just makes sense that they wanted you to have a regular spot in Castle Town to check the time, or they wanted to teach you about the time cycle since it's early in the game.

[Anonymous No.5094392]

>>5094382
>>5094382
Yeah.

As far as I know at least half of the Shadow Temple is actually what Wind Temple used to be.

So the Forest Temple was never Wind temple, they just used the same medallion. I think that the Forest Temple was the place where the Master Sword was supposed to be sleeping. I don't think it used to be a dungeon at all.

That tree could be a mark that lead to the Master Sword and a Wolfos fight before acquiring it.

That would make sense with Zelda lore, the Master Sword is always in the florest...

And the Temple of Time was supposed to be the Light Temple... that Time Travel stuff was added after Miyamoto step in and changed the game for it to have Child Link.

So the Master Sword was never supposed to be on the Temple of Time (Light Temple).

[Anonymous No.5094418]

>>5091554

Not really a mystery. It's just Japanese people not understanding confession.

[Anonymous No.5094578]

>>5091481
Why anon is always so quick to scream faggot

[Anonymous No.5094951]

siegfried in ff6

[Anonymous No.5095025]

>>5094027
>using braps

[Anonymous No.5095206]

>>5094418
How are they not understanding it?

[Anonymous No.5095295]

>>5092658
This is what I assumed as a kid. But now, is it really possible the Japanese devs were working with the American Nintendo power magazine?

[Anonymous No.5095375]

>>5091531
What are some other lesser known mysteries from goldeneye ?

[Anonymous No.5095390]

>>5095375
Sure, I had a long description typed out for you but I got the captcha wrong and it was deleted so I'll be brief...

People once (maybe they still do, idk) postulated that there was a casino level in development, but scrapped before the creation of a level even took place.
Unused assets of interest include money and a gold bar. Both have to be gamesharked into your inventory, can not be picked up or interacted with. There is also the micro video camera, it's a little surveillance camera that you can gameshark into a level, then pick it up, equip it, and throw it like the tracker you throw onto the chopper in Frigate.
Also, Xenia's line in jungle is "This time the pleasure will be all mine"
>This time
You don't meet Xenia previous to the jungle yet she acts as if you have. Some guys thought that maybe you would meet her in casino and get video of her using the micro camera.
I'm not sure i even believe in the level, perhaps it was planned at some point, but I don't think the level was ever modelled or programmed into the game in any form

[Anonymous No.5095442]

>>5094371
It isn't, the only one in the game like that is in the Sacred Forest Meadow.

[Anonymous No.5095457]

>>5093653
The real mysterious grotto is the one with an arrow of rupees pointing towards a wall.

[Anonymous No.5095486]

The hidden messages in Duke 3D aren't really mysterious, but they sure felt that way as a kid

[Anonymous No.5095508]

[Anonymous No.5095668]

>>5095295
Well, the comic was created by Benimaru Itoh, a Nintendo legend that still work with them to this day.

[Anonymous No.5095676]

You guys are fucking cool.
I wish i was still this enthusiastic about video games

[Anonymous No.5095709]

>>5095390
Xenia was supposed to be in the Frigate level

[Anonymous No.5095765]

>>5095457
you have the location?

[Anonymous No.5095936]

>>5093479

8 bit

[Anonymous No.5095973]

[Anonymous No.5096213]

>>5095973
it was solved... you get the dragon ability in tooie.

[Anonymous No.5096301]

>>5094951

There's a shit ton of cut content in ff6, he was probably meant to do more at some point.

[Anonymous No.5096305]

>>5095295

I was more joking desu. Someone even pointed to Antony from other M as soon as the first trailer came out. "REMEMBER ME?" Are you the dead guy?

But I always thought Houston was a funny addition to the comic and always wondered if he'd maybe eventually make an appearance in the games, but alas, he never has.

[Anonymous No.5097113]

>>5095973
this and the door in gobi valley were pretty insane before we knew about the scrapped stop & swap

[Anonymous No.5097270]

>>5091458
Some guy in an old and crusty M64 fansite counted the starts and Morse code and found they said "in an elm"

[Anonymous No.5097487]

>>5091876
what do you mean debunked? I thought they were just put in as a gag

[Anonymous No.5097691]

>>5097487
It's not a mystery anymore when Rare fully explained the cheese when Rare Replay came out

[Anonymous No.5097796]

>>5091538
Those usernames and passwords were meant for the carrington institute and datadyne websites that were up around when the game came out.

Long gone now of course, I can't even find any archived images of them after a solid three minutes of half hearted google image searching for them.

[Anonymous No.5097853]

That room with mirror in rondo of blood.
Seriously wtf

[Anonymous No.5097905]

>>5095765
In gerudo valley jump off the big bridge onto an alcove. The pit is under a rock.

[Anonymous No.5098086]

>you can only see it once per save file

[Anonymous No.5098092]

>>5097853
Yeah, it screams leftover from a beta idea or something.
In the PSP remake they at least give you some collectible for getting there.

[Anonymous No.5098171]

>>5098086
spoopy

[Anonymous No.5098553]

Never understood why he stayed this way through the entire movie.

[Anonymous No.5098561]

I don't know why he stayed this way the whole game.

[Anonymous No.5098571]

>>5094027
>fraps
>not-retro

[Anonymous No.5098713]

>>5095390
>This time the pleasure will be all mine"

That's straight from the movie, it just doesn't make sense because they chose not to include this in the game - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVmHgf3u1PQ

The gold bar is really interesting. It sounds like they were planning a Goldfinger level based on the country club - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2IBMs6PKTc

[Anonymous No.5098714]

>>5091573
So if this was originally supposed to be in the Sacred Forest Meadow with the Wolfos, is it related to the Rainbow Room in the Grotto?

[Anonymous No.5098774]

>>5098086
Guessing it's just a mistake like you can never re-complete Bowser's sub star. It always surprised me they never fixed that in the DS Remake.

>>5097796
Meant for, but I don't think the username/password section of the site was ever set up, so they were always useless even back then.

[Anonymous No.5098886]

>>5098561

[Anonymous No.5099285]

>>5098561
because majora/skull kid sucked the life out of him and bounded his soul to the deku mask/link

[Anonymous No.5099291]

[Anonymous No.5099301]

What is in those chest at the bottom middle and bottom right?

This is the Karma Forest in Breath of Fire

[Anonymous No.5099701]

>>5098571
>>not-retro

[Anonymous No.5099764]

>>5091573

Wasn't that removed in the 3DS version?

[Anonymous No.5099775]

>>5099764
probably, the 3ds version is soulless garbage

[Anonymous No.5099824]

Anybody remember the pokemon rumors about the truck. Why was it even there, you never see another vehicle in the game?

[Anonymous No.5099831]

>>5099291
wow how did they predict that pc would be the master race and that even Sonic would make the jump?

[Anonymous No.5099837]

>>5099764
I looking for pictures... it appears to be removed... the remaster is very truthful to the source. So it was never supposed to be there...

>>5098714
It makes sense. The tree could be right in the middle of the first part of the meadow. There was no "locked door" and forced fight with the wolfos... but you could find them if you found the secret grotto.

[Anonymous No.5099838]

>>5099837
>Rainbow Room
I'm thinking more about it... there could be a Heart Piece inside the grotto. Also you could hookshot yourself to the top of the tree, giving access to the higher part of the level.

[Anonymous No.5099892]

>>5093508
>Daytona 3 replaces the mural with Modern Sonic
The most soulless thing imaginable

[Anonymous No.5099896]

>>5099892
They don't consider it Daytona 3 anymore, and for good reason.

[Anonymous No.5099907]

>>5097113

I SPENT SO MUCH FUCKING TIME SCOURING THE LEVEL TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW TO OPEN THIS

[Anonymous No.5099924]

>all of this Rare stuff
Why is everyone obsessed with Rare, and yet there's no content on Jet Force Gemini?

As a child I was always intrigued by the trees in the first level. I tried for hours to get into them, as they looked like they were openings into some kind of underground area.
And there was also that abandoned space station.

A lot of the game was kinda mysterious, now that I think back on it.

[Anonymous No.5100230]

>>5091912
>Diddy Kong Racing, Battletoads, Star Fox, 64 Zelda, and Mario Land 2 all come to mind

Also Ganon.

[Anonymous No.5100290]

>>5100230
>Also Ganon.
He mentioned Zelda in the list you quoted.

[Anonymous No.5100367]

>>5097270
>tick-tock clock, the level surrounded by this background, is in a tree
D E E P E S T L O R E

[Anonymous No.5100371]

>>5099924
The control scheme for that game is the most mysterious of all.

[Anonymous No.5100457]

>>5093150
The thing is, you're not somebody's buddy just because you want to be and you're not a total asshole. Caveman put up with Chibi until his dopey reddit humor and observations started to get on his nerves, and started putting on the nonverbal warning signs of "you're annoying, buzz off." Chibi didn't get the picture from more subtle and face-saving rejection cues, so he had to just come out and tell him to shut up.

I feel like Chibi sympathizers are those kids who tried way too hard to ham-fistedly make people into their friends and could never understand why people didn't like them and see themselves in Chibi.

[Anonymous No.5100461]

>>5100371
You actually need to change the control scheme to "Expert" on the menu screen. It's actually game changing, since it lets you move in all 8 directions while you're in aim mode (in standard scheme, it only lets you move sideways, which is stupid and makes the game actually harder)

[Anonymous No.5100464]

>>5100461
Expert basically turns it into a twinstick FPS, where the left stick is the C-buttons.

As a child I played through the entire thing in standard mode. The aiming mode doesn't matter all that much, as ordinary gameplay can be done with 90% auto-aim and in boss fights you cannot move forward/backwards anyway.

[Anonymous No.5100468]

>>5100464
>The aiming mode doesn't matter all that much, as ordinary gameplay can be done with 90% auto-aim
Depends, there's many parts where you need to shoot a bunch of enemies from afar, auto-aim doesn't help, and being able to actually move around (to hid behind walls or dodge) makes the game a lot more playable than just being able to move sideways. You can toggle between aim-mode and normal mode to move around I guess, but it's better to just be able to move freely while on aiming.
I also played the game as a kid without knowing this though, it's doable, but less enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.5100474]

>>5100468
The only thing that drove me crazy as a kid was the part where you need to shoot the crystals so that the huge machine collects them.
I managed to do it once, then forgot to save because it took so much time.

As an adult I did it first try.

[Anonymous No.5100481]

>>5093250
Congrats on being more autistic than a speed runner!

[Anonymous No.5100523]

>>5091579
/thread

[Anonymous No.5100549]

>>5099824
i spent ages getting to that damn truck.

No longer a mystery, but i remember reading theories about "pika blue" before gen 2 pokemon came out. was pretty exciting.

[Anonymous No.5100772]

>>5091458
>mysterious/unexplained
the asking price for this damn game. why?

[Anonymous No.5101327]

>>5100549
Pokegods are my childhood vidya mysteries.

If I was a jap and in charge of pkmn I would remake Gen1 and include the Pokegod shit but not tell anyone. Of course dataminers would find shit, but I think I could mitigate it.

[Anonymous No.5101334]

>>5100772
It's not even THAT great of a game desu. It's fun for sure but it's piss easy so the replayability is pretty low.

[Anonymous No.5101392]

It's a little bit mysterious

[Anonymous No.5101394]

>>5101327
The Mega Pokémon are literal PokéGods. Even the design is almost the same, specially in the case of Mega Charizard and Mega Venusaur.

[Anonymous No.5101397]

>>5101392
>THE WIND FISH IN NAME ONLY, FOR IT IS NEITHER.

[Anonymous No.5101409]

>>5091551
Stop'N'Swap basically made everyone be like "THE FUCK? SECRET SHIT!" and they started pulling apart all of Rare's stuff.

[Anonymous No.5101415]

>>5097691
What was the explanation?

[Anonymous No.5101420]

>>5101397
which owl statue says this?

[Anonymous No.5101424]

>>5093853
The explanation for this one is probably the same as the rest of the weird, odd shit in SoM: It was supposed to be a CD based game before the Sony/Nintendo deal fell through, and they had to cut a fuck ton of content.

[Anonymous No.5101427]

>>5101394
But there is no mystery or mystique there.

[Anonymous No.5101437]

>>5101420
I think one near the swamp or the castle, can't remember exactly.

[Anonymous No.5101446]

>>5100549
I spent countless hours at the library looking up shit like pikablu on old AngelFire websites. That and supposed Neopets cheats.
I did not spend my time wisely as a kid, but it sure was fun to read and try all that stuff. Missingno blew my mind and really got my imagination going regarding what kinds of secrets, glitches, and tricks could be hidden away inside video games, and it gave credence to all the more ridiculous theories.

[Anonymous No.5101565]

>>5101415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye22UAfs6-0&t=783
13:03

[Anonymous No.5102018]

>>5091458
Don't know if this counts as retro (I surely played it more than 18 years ago), but Tibia used to be full of those mysteries.
The community would go nuts investigating them, like this guy I remember that used the shovel in every single tile of the tutorial island (and got nothing to show for it), it was really fun. Too bad the rest of the game is shit

[Anonymous No.5102043]

hibbers

[Anonymous No.5102059]

I don't know if this is the correct thread for this but the easteregg in Dust2 always made me really sad somehow

[Anonymous No.5102161]

>>5101392
>>5101397
dude LA is my favorite zelda. I found most of the secrets before the internet was available B&W original. I got stuck in the last dungeon turtle rock for like a solid month finding the flame rod.

[Anonymous No.5102243]

>>5102059
So basically every easter egg in all the classic CS maps

[Anonymous No.5103221]

>>5101334
but why does it cost upwards of $90 to $400 in the fucking box?. I can't seem to find any info on its pricing or rarity.

[Anonymous No.5103232]

>>5103221
Because only idiots collect. Buy a flashcart or emulate.

[Anonymous No.5103245]

Why is this empty blue sign here? Perhaps my ROM is bugged so it is missing a sign, but I don't think it is.

[Anonymous No.5103317]

>>5091573
My brother told me there was a shark swimming in Lake Hylia and I was terrified to go there.

[Anonymous No.5103324]

>>5103317

[Anonymous No.5103326]

>>5103324
I know the shark is in the cage, but my brother said he was literally actively swimming in the lake and can randomly eat you.

[Anonymous No.5103410]

>>5094578
where do you think we are?

[Anonymous No.5103420]

>>5103232
>because only idiots collect
no shit
>buy a flashcart or emulate
listen very carefully: is this a game I could find after wandering into a thrift store or vintage game shop?. if not then could that be the reason why (((Ebay))) sellers inflate the shit out of the price?

[Anonymous No.5103454]

>>5103232
>idiots collect
dude i have so much cash why not collect? you're mindset is a def mech. for the poor.

[Anonymous No.5103598]

>>5099301
It should be possible to check with a cheat. Are those still there in the gba remake?

[Anonymous No.5103602]

>>5103454
If you're American you might need it to pay health treatments someday.

[Anonymous No.5103723]

>>5099924
>trees in the first level
these? yea they look like a tunnel or something

[Anonymous No.5103864]

>>5095390
They used that line because she says the exact same line at that point in the movie.

However, it is plausible there were plans to use her earlier.

[Anonymous No.5104756]

>>5100457
Underrated post

[Anonymous No.5104789]

>>5103864
Yeah I'm aware she uses the line in the movie... I was recalling the Goldeneye fanbases theory on the casino level and not what I personally think. My thoughts are that rare just used pre existing dialogue and didn't get caught up in the technicality that Xenia hadn't met bond previously.
However, 2005 was a different time and lots of us were pretty determined this casino level existed, lol

[Anonymous No.5104814]

>>5100457
You're taking this way too seriously.
If you actually watch the video, both guys are awkward as fuck, if Caveman wasn't a turbo autismo, he could have find a way to deal with Chibi in a non-asshole way. However, we wouldn't have the meem now, so I'm glad the universe united the two of them so now we can have that moment recorded forever.

[Anonymous No.5104892]

>>5103245
its just because youre using an old build of dolphin

[Anonymous No.5105181]

>>5104814
Autismo detected. He was as polite as he could have been.

[Anonymous No.5105389]

>>5091554
Check out that trump hair

[Anonymous No.5105434]

>>5093150
Oh hey chibi

[Anonymous No.5105436]

>>5105434
He's called Aquana now

[Anonymous No.5105570]

>deku tree raised a baby
>but deku tree don't have arms or legs.
HOW?FUCKIGN HOW?the kokiri are children,they don't exactly come with "how to raise a baby" manual inside their brains.

[Anonymous No.5105974]

>you can kill the piano
>she might hurt you

[Anonymous No.5105982]

>>5105974
Can't you butt-stomp the piano?

[Anonymous No.5106089]

>>5105181
Non-autistic people
1. Don’t get irritated at a person’s lame attempt at humor, to the point of needing to verbalize it
2. Don’t express it in an emotionless, tone deaf, and completely direct manner

[Anonymous No.5106123]

>>5106089
I'm sorry that it triggered bad high school memories for you, but asking someone who's annoying you to leave you alone is not autistic.

[Anonymous No.5106126]

>>5106123
The manner in which he did so was very autistic.

[Anonymous No.5106128]

>>5106123
He's not wrong. He's not defending Chibi, but defending Caveman is the same.
Guy's way of communicating is cringeworthy. It's not just the "I'd prefer if you'd be quiet" line, most of the stuff he says sounds awkward and emotionless. Like he's trying to be a tough guy but he's just an autismo.
It's what makes the whole thing so funny though, the chemistry between these 2 autists.

[Anonymous No.5106148]

>>5092325
>>5092349
>>5093150
Thing is, if I recall correctly Chibbi (the left guy) wasn't even invited to sit on the couch. It was a late night run and he got away with just sitting down, grabbing a mic and doing unasked commentary on the game. He also went for the usual "twitch humor" at the time (X confirmed for Y, X Hype, etc) and cave was just not a fan of that. Instead of picking up that his "jokes" and comments weren't landing he just kept going hoping for a laugh, it's rather sad. Of course then viewers smelling the cringe potential started teasing him with comments until some mad lad got the idea to donate to make him do jumping jacks to annoy cave further.
And if anyone feels bad for him because he's just an autistic kid embarrassing himself on stream: Don't be. He was later found to cheat in his own speedruns and proceeded to lie about it when find out, until he was so cornered that he could do nothing but admit it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1BBiPeDXM0

[Anonymous No.5106492]

>>5091464
:(

[Anonymous No.5106496]

>>5091464
Well you did kill his fucking dog, what is the mystery??

[Anonymous No.5106497]

>>5091481
Determinism; op can’t help but sucking cocks, it is in his nature.

[Anonymous No.5106765]

The biggest mistery for me was this space agency center at Mossdeep city

There was a scientist inside who counted shuttle launches that correspond at the week passed

I never found out what was all about

[Anonymous No.5106773]

>>5106765
>In the games, a man by the window will reveal the number of successful launches there have been; the number is an indicator to the number of weeks since the saved game was begun. Because this is a time-based event, the Space Center will cease to launch Rockets when the battery for the internal clock runs dry, and it can be affected by the berry glitch.

>Many rumors have been spread about this number and its relation to Jirachi and Deoxys. Many believe that if the man reaches a certain number, the player will be able to ride a rocket into space and battle Jirachi or Deoxys. Like the truck rumors of Generation I, this rumor is false. In the remakes, however, it is in fact possible to go to space and battle Deoxys, perhaps in reference to these rumors.

[Anonymous No.5106791]

>>5106496
Well, but who was he?

[Anonymous No.5106810]

>>5091491
man when I was a kid i used an A jump to always get into Wet/Dry World and I just thought it always started at that water level. One day, trying out different jumps i did a backflip into it and the water level was higher... man I was thrilled, i discovered it by myself.

So many examples of this on n64/ps1 games back in the day

[Anonymous No.5106830]

>>5091458
I only found out the other day that the music in Ocarina's Hyrule Field plays in random 15-second sections. You will never hear the tune played in the same way twice in Hyrule Field.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO8Y7hdD6Qk
Also, the main Zelda theme never appears in OoT.

[Anonymous No.5106867]

>>5106830
It's situational depending on what you're doing.

[Anonymous No.5106894]

>>5106830
>the main Zelda theme never appears in OoT.
I know the full theme never plays, but I could have sworn some tiny snippets of the classic theme played in Hyrule Field.

[Anonymous No.5106916]

>>5106867
I believe that if you just stand still, dont engage enemies or anything, it plays at random.

>>5106894
yes I also detect small themes of it in there.

Another quirk : I completed OoT recently and at the final screen (with Zelda and young link in the courtyard and The End on screen) I put my controller down and started reading something, then my Scarecrow's Theme played! I never knew that happened until recently (it was a playthrough I did in 2014 or 2015).
Just cool to find out new things.

[Anonymous No.5106920]

>>5106916
Yeah I remember the scarecrow thing.
I believe if you don't have a scarecrow song, the saria theme will play, but don't quote me on that.
Also I just discovered today that this menu screen on DK64 has a bunch of stuff happening if you don't touch anything.

[Anonymous No.5106924]

>>5106920
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.5106945]

>>5106924
I think i've seen that before. Seriously considering just booting it up and finding out (I have a '64 plugged in at the moment).

Rare were really good for that, just putting loads of character and thought into the games.

[Anonymous No.5107014]

>>5105982
yea, but you go thru it and get hurt

[Anonymous No.5107024]

>>5106830
This: >>5106867
Also yes, the there is a slight motif of the original theme when you are running from enemies.

[Anonymous No.5107115]

>>5105570
The Kokiri are immortal children. The Great Deku Tree could have told them how to take care of a baby. Saria was probably in charge of it.

[Anonymous No.5107143]

>>5099285
That's so sad

[Anonymous No.5107567]

>>5107115
Saria's seen Link naked?

[Anonymous No.5107605]

>>5107567
AT LAST I TRULY SEE,THE PATRICIAN SHIPPING.

[Anonymous No.5107626]

>>5099701
>Grand Theft Auto III is an action-adventure video game developed by DMA Design and published by Rockstar Games. It was released in October 2001 for the PlayStation 2, in May 2002 for Microsoft Windows, and in October 2003 for the Xbox.
Not retro

[Anonymous No.5108596]

>>5106830
are you sure? I don't think so.
That's exactly like how I remember the music.

[Anonymous No.5108630]

>>5108596
>>5106830
It's true!
I looked for two Ocarina Hyrule Field music and both plays differently after each 15 seconds. lol

[Anonymous No.5108640]

I never knew what it was for as a kid.

[Anonymous No.5108663]

>>5091573
I think the boss of that area was supposed to be a clawed beast at one point.

[Anonymous No.5108668]

>>5108663
read
>>5092284
>>5092928
>>5093019
>>5098714
>>5099837

[Anonymous No.5108684]

>>5095206
Because Japs can't into Christianity to them it's just another thing to gloss over and take bits and pieces that sound cool for their fantasy settings

[Anonymous No.5108687]

>>5108684
Do you know that christianity has more history in Japan than, say, islam or jewish?
Look up Xavier.

[Anonymous No.5108713]

>>5108687
>Do you know that christianity has more history in Japan than, say, islam or jewish?
That's the funny part see it might have alot of history in Japan but it's not popular except when put into a fantasy setting

[Anonymous No.5108717]

>>5108713
That might be true, but I don't see what's supposed to be wrong about that scene in SOTN.
The monsters that appear? It's a demon castle after all.

[Anonymous No.5108726]

>>5108717
>I don't see what's supposed to be wrong about that scene
It's not the scene that's the problem it's that Japs don't understand it

[Anonymous No.5108729]

>>5108726
ah okay whatever.

[Anonymous No.5108879]

>>5101327
To be fair Pokemon did get mysterious gods in gen 4, especially since it was cut content. That arceus shit was crazy and also answered the mystery of the unown from gold/silver while bringing up more questions and mystery.

Not retro, but still. It's also neat that we know from the spaceworld demo that hoenn d sinnoh were concieved back then.

[Anonymous No.5108889]

>>5108668
I did and I was replying to them...

[Anonymous No.5108893]

>>5108889
oh I see what you were saying.

[Anonymous No.5109526]

>>5108640

[Anonymous No.5110507]

[Anonymous No.5110771]

>>5095508
What's the context?

[Anonymous No.5113060]

>>5095936
16 bit

[Anonymous No.5113102]

>>5110507

[Anonymous No.5113459]

>>5091531
>>5093604
>>5095375
>>5095390
>>5099924
Rare was notorious for going through so much alterations and versions of their games and they would just leave stuff in there, either in physical objects, or things visible in the editor in a Gameshark.
Do you any of you guys remember Detstar (terrorist) website? he had pages of mysteries and also poorly early 00s photoshopped images of "users" claiming to have found more secrets. So much fun reading throuhg it all. and as for Perfect Dark, Yamo's lair had dozens of unexplained and explained mysteries about the game

https://web.archive.org/web/20021218022607/http://willmistretta.tripod.com:80/mystery.html

[Anonymous No.5113475]

>>5091915
That's just a cops thing really.

[Anonymous No.5113484]

>>5106148
That just makes it more sad if you ask me. He's like a little kid that wants someone to pay him attention.

[Anonymous No.5113551]

I got one
but it's not retro

It's RE4, which board should I go to?

[Anonymous No.5113557]

>>5113551
/v/, /vg/

[Anonymous No.5113561]

>>5113557
There is no RE general, sadly
it's /v/ then

[Anonymous No.5113568]

>>5113561
Don't go to /v/ for video game talk.
That will get you nowhere.
Just consider yourself fucked.

[Anonymous No.5113765]

>>5091912
You forgot Earthbound 3!

[Anonymous No.5113778]

>>5091878
i think tomba wins the award for most autistic game ever made

[Anonymous No.5114984]

>>5106830
Yes if you look at the soundtrack miniUSF rip theres 5-6 15 sec segments of Hyrule field that play in random order

[Anonymous No.5115162]

I'm 33 and I've played hundreds of games to completion. This thread just makes me sad because, while I played most of these games, I remember remarkably little about them. All that is left is general impressions and some specific high or low points for most of the games I've played. Whatever mysteries once occupied my childhood mind are not even remembered.

[Anonymous No.5115238]

>>5115162
The good thing about that is that you can replay the games now.
The nostalgia rush is harder when it's something you very vaguely remember.

[Anonymous No.5115245]

>>5115162
I played hundreds of games as a kid and many of them i've, like you, mostly forgotten the details of.
The exceptions are those that i autistically played for hundreds (or thousands) of hours, like pokemon, mario64, and perfect dark.

[Anonymous No.5115257]

>>5115162
I know that feeling.
What's worse is a friend will be playing game that I've told him that I've completed, and he'll ask me how to beat a boss. Then I stare at him for two minutes while my brain refuses to cooperate.

[Anonymous No.5115331]

>>5115162
>>5115257
Pretty sure that's normal

[Anonymous No.5116217]

>>5093019
cool it with the fucking ellipses you piece of shit

[Anonymous No.5116220]

>>5091696
Zozzle. Played through this earlier this year and wondered what the fuck was going on.

[Anonymous No.5116227]

>>5093118
>tfw can't into meme arrows

[Anonymous No.5116371]

[Anonymous No.5116397]

why was Link's hair pink tho?

[Anonymous No.5116402]

>>5116397
graphic limitations,i think.
>>5116371
>naruto refrences before naturo even started to become mainstream

[Anonymous No.5116512]

>>5116397
becasue it looked better. also every link is a different incarnation, they dont have to have blonde hair

[Anonymous No.5116513]

>>5116397
He's a faggot ass who wants to be bumfucked

[Anonymous No.5116619]

>>5095508
>major skill
>spear

You are man of fine taste. Its a shame that spears end their story after Morrowind, they were so fun to 0lay with and also great for creating fashion sets.

[Anonymous No.5118320]

[Anonymous No.5118856]

>>5118320
the comfiest vidya mystery of all time

[Anonymous No.5118897]

The greatest mystery for me was the temple of light in zelda oot, before internet was a thing they used to make articles in magazines about it and kids in my school used to make up stories how they get the triforce. Pretty busted by now but interesting nonetheless

[Anonymous No.5119021]

>>5116397
Heard somewhere that LTTP uses an 8-bit color palette to get more data in the game.

[Anonymous No.5119023]

the end of Monkey Island 2.

[Anonymous No.5119205]

>>5119021
Demonstrably false. And even with 2bpp colors you could've had non-pink hair.

[Anonymous No.5119253]

>>5091502
How does a ventilation shaft point to an on rails shooter

[Anonymous No.5119297]

>>5099285
glad I didn't play that zelda

[Anonymous No.5119758]

>>5118320

Hey man, he's just chillin'

[Anonymous No.5120834]

>>5110771
Kirkbride got confronted by Todd after skipping work to do drugs.

[Anonymous No.5120973]

>>5119253
>How does a ventilation shaft point to an on rails shooter
I was wondering that too. Maybe it's only fully textured when the player is facing in one direction?

[Anonymous No.5121018]

>>5107626
that's not gta3

[Anonymous No.5121129]

>>5091502
It was confirmed to be a rail shooter on SNES wasn't it, I think Grant Kirkhope even said it in some interview

[Anonymous No.5121146]

>>5095508
>>5110771
If I remember right you can find Dwemer books but since it's a lost civilization you can't read shit or understand any of it so it just says that. Haven't played Morrowind without mods (including a mod that shows Dwemer pictures and text in those books) in a long ass time so maybe I'm wrong

[Anonymous No.5121147]

>>5091481
Came here to write this, but vr doesn't dissapoint

[Anonymous No.5121329]

>>5093653
>>5093735
Call me crazy, bit I think the texture used for those walls is a vertically stretched version of the painting entrance to Bob Omb Battlefield from Super Mario 64. At least I sort of see it

[Anonymous No.5121339]

>>5121329
Anon, I

[Anonymous No.5121342]

>>5098561
>>5099285
How did he manage exit if the one you see leading there is the door in the clock tower? Why did the bushes shake in the beginning of the game indicating Keaton was there if you don't have the mask yet?
Anju's grandmother says that Skull Kid was a friend of the giants since the beginning of termina, but that same Skull Kid is the one from Ocarina of Time whom Link sells the mask to. At most it's around 1 year since Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask events.
What evil activity was Goht doing in the Snowhead Temple if he was frozen?

[Anonymous No.5121345]

>>5099824
It was going to be used in a part that had you either move to Pallet Town like in Gen III but was scrapped. Curious as to why they kept that easter egg in

[Anonymous No.5121346]

>>5121342
>but that same Skull Kid is the one from Ocarina of Time whom Link sells the mask to
This is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.5121353]

>>5109526
What level?

[Anonymous No.5121362]

>>5121346
Remembered what he says wrong, bit either way, he's from the Lost Woods and either met Link or Saria

[Anonymous No.5121368]

spent hours on this shit

[Anonymous No.5121369]

>>5116512
>every link is a different incarnation
That's tacked on NuZelda bullshit, when LttP came out it was a prequel to Zelda 1 and it was the same exact Link.

[Anonymous No.5121380]

>>5121369
I don't think that's right but I'm too lazy to check.

[Anonymous No.5121386]

>>5121369
No he isn’t you fucking imbecile. Only Ganon is the same. It takes place centuries before Zelda 1. The Link from 1 and 2 are the same.

[Anonymous No.5121426]

>>5121353
i think 3-1 or 3-5

[Anonymous No.5121550]

>>5091458
I saw this image before... what I'm looking at?
what is the mysterious thing?

[Anonymous No.5121673]

>>5116512
t. Andrew Dobson

[Anonymous No.5121719]

>>5121369

Nope.

It was the SAME story but different narrations.

[Anonymous No.5121725]

I still don't know how to get this ship to show up on-demand.

[Anonymous No.5121754]

>>5113459
I think I do remember that site. Frankly though it could be because basically all tripod sites looked the same but yeah it does seem especially familiar.

[Anonymous No.5121876]

>>5121018
You are correct, I was wrong about what game it was. But, the game it actually is, San Andreas, was made in 2004, three years after the already non-retro game I previously identified as. The game it actually is, is even less retro, you've hurt your own argument.

[Anonymous No.5121943]

>>5121362
I actually always thought the friend Link was looking for at the beginning of MM was indeed the Skull Kid. I believe it was never really stated in-game that he's actually looking for Navi, but I believe that's the canon explanation.

[Anonymous No.5121948]

>>5121550
Look at Mario's left arm and leg.

[Anonymous No.5121965]

>>5091554
Sitting in random chairs all together would be my thing i dont get

[Anonymous No.5121971]

>>5121362
if he smells the same... it's link. We tech him that music to get a Heart Piece.

If you kill him as an adult you get 200 rupees.

So we never kill him.

[Anonymous No.5121973]

>>5091458
Alot of shit while exploring in ff7 and ff9

[Anonymous No.5121984]

>>5121971
The thing I'm getting at is Termina must either have been created in a very short amount of time, or time passes much slower there compared to Hyrule since the events between OoT and MM are at most a year and Skull Kid was friends with the giants "since the beginning of Termina" ir something like that

[Anonymous No.5121996]

>>5121984
One of the new books about Hyrule... on the Hyrule story line states that Termina doesn't exist. It's a magical place created probably by the power of the Majora's Mask.

So the place is actually a co-creation of Link, Tatle, Skull Kid, the Mask Salesman and the other fairy.

Which is pretty cool and would explain why the moon has Ganondorf face or there're characters from OoT in it.

[Anonymous No.5122001]

>>5121984
>>5121996
So... if Link was in the woods, and we know that the woods is attached to the wind element... it could take you to any place it wants.

That's the mystical power of Lost Woods.

That was lost in OoT and they redesigned the Wind Temple into the Forest Temple...

OoT is a mess, it shouldn't have gone through multiple directors.

But Breath of the Wild recaptures the true essence of Lost Woods.

[Anonymous No.5122004]

>>5121996
Hmmm. That and also ironic that the Carnival of Time happens every so many years when the moon aligns in a way with Clock Town. So yeah, no more of that once it's destroyed

[Anonymous No.5122027]

>>5121965
Ever played Castlevania Curse of Darkness? That game has so many chairs it includes a chair gallery.

[Anonymous No.5122038]

>>5122004
yes, but I still think that some characters, like the Deku Scrubs, Gorons and Zoras could actually be real people.

But maybe not. We known that some entities/deities actually can create life. Like the Wind Fish. Once he stopped dreaming everyone disappeared though except for the girl that was transformed into a seagull.

Maybe not even that giant men are "real".

[Anonymous No.5122045]

>>5122038
>Hyrule is all about the golden goddesses Din, Nayru, and Farore
>Game no mentiones "goddess of time"
wat

[Anonymous No.5122048]

>>5122045
Now*

[Anonymous No.5122049]

>>5122045
I think that Zelda is the sage of time, if she's the reincarnation of Hylia, she could be treated as a goddess. Like Demise was a god too.

[Anonymous No.5122052]

>>5121369

Im pretty sure Nintendo released the assbackward retarded zelda "timeline" so that autists would stop pestering them about it and didn't even try to make it make sense.

Hell you heard their answer to BotW's position in the timeline? "Whereever you want it to fit" translation: "Okay here, now fuck off"

[Anonymous No.5122054]

>>5122001

>But Breath of the Wild recaptures the true essence of Lost Woods.

Sweet Jesus this. The lost woods in BotW was perfect, they couldn't have nailed it better. Had the same mysterious air as ALttP, maybe even more.

[Anonymous No.5122063]

>>5101409
>>5091551
Stop N Swop is THE cool mystery thing because it opened our eyes to the potential of bonus content that somehow escaped the bounds of the game cartridge itself. Much less novel now that we have DLC and ARGs but it lit people's imaginations on fire back then. Way ahead of its time

[Anonymous No.5122067]

>>5121943
He was looking for Navi. Navi flies away at the end of OOT. She was also the character you spent 99.9% of the game with, not the skullkid.

[Anonymous No.5122075]

>>5106773
>>5106765
I don't have a list on hand but X and Y were really interesting because they had a lot of weird little easter eggs that seemed to be hooks for stuff to expand in the eventual "3rd version" like Crystal and Platinum... but then the 3rd version never happened

[Anonymous No.5122076]

>>5122052
I was a timeline fag up until Skyward Sword...

I'll tell you what happened.

The game DID have a timeline until The Wind Waker/Oracle series/Twilight Princess.

But two things happened: The Oracle game is missing the Farore's part. Ocarina of Time went through three directions, so a lot of things didn't make sense, like sending Link back in time.

The Link coming back in time created two theories, one is the split-timeline, the other one was that Link preserved his memories of the future, so he'd stop it before Ganondorf could enter the Sacred Realm.

Well.

The Wind Waker implied it started at the "future timeline" and Twilight Princess in the "present" timeline.

Ganondorf is prosecuted and judged in Twilight. He's sent into Twilight World... but here's the catch, Twilight World was supposed to be the Dark World we see in A Link to the Past.

But Zelda has a strange kind of development, they can change stuff whenever they want...

So you see the mess? Ocarina has the split timeline plothole... they tried to fix it with a unfinished game that is The Wind Waker (it's missing dungeons/storyline).

They tried to connect Link's Awakening with the Oracle series, but again, it's missing Farore's story.

Twilight Princess changed the Dark World for Twilight World... creating another parallel universe (4 by that time...).

After that they stopped to care about timeline, they just made minor connections here and there, like Ganon's Trident in Four Sword Adventures...

The Minish Cap was supposed to tell why Link uses a hat, that was changed in Skyward Sword...

Skyward Sword actually changed the first Zelda's origin. She wasn't an accursed princess anymore, but a reincarnation of the Hylia Goddess...

They stopped to care about the timeline after Skyward Sword/DS games.

Some games connects, yes, but that's about it.

[Anonymous No.5122081]

>>5122054
Yes, and it's so obvious that it has a wind element into it... the forest medallion used to be the Wind Medallion in OoT before the dungeon overhaul.

It was always based in the Wind Element.

[Anonymous No.5122085]

>>5122054
The puzzle was far too simple. I would have liked if Lost Woods in BotW was a place you could actually get lost in, searching for mysterious otherworldly things. instead its a simple puzzle you solve once then warp past every other time

[Anonymous No.5122086]

>>5122063
Yes... but you see, you could get four of the mysterious bonus in the game itself...

But I think that the Ice Key was meant for Donkey Kong though. It would unlock a stage.

So Tooie should have two more egg secrets.

[Anonymous No.5122092]

>>5122086
Ice Key was indeed meant for DK64. In beta screenshots you can see DK's hut has a fridge with Banjo and Kazooie's picture that isn't in the final game. And through a glitch you can actually activate a camera transition where the camera zooms in to the place the fridge used to be before loading another map

[Anonymous No.5122094]

>>5122085

i can't argue with that. i would have liked that as opposed to the random teleporting out. Loved the atmosphere though.

[Anonymous No.5122096]

>>5122085
That would be great if you could really get lost there. You could even visit a dungeon with strange things inside. Hallucinations and stuff.

[Anonymous No.5122102]

In Ocarina of Time there's a grotto in Gerudo Valley (iirc) that has an arrow of rupees pointing to absolutely nothing, there's nothing you can do there.

And Goron City has that weird lava pit that you can see the first time you get there but isn't crossable until WAY later with the Song of Time and Longshot, and all that's there is a couple of Business Scrubs selling common items

[Anonymous No.5122105]

>>5122092
Really? So the key would unlock the fridge? That's cool. Do you have a video of that?

So we basically know what Tooie bonus were, except for two. And we'll never know how DK64 Ice Key stage would be... or maybe they recycled its contents into one of the stages.

[Anonymous No.5122114]

>>5122102
I think you had to access that lava place for a Heart Piece or something, but they later changed it for the Business Scrub.

I've never found this rupee arrow thing... do you have a picture of that?

[Anonymous No.5122119]

>>5122105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOAATfDXfuY

[Anonymous No.5122121]

>>5091912
Iirc, Rocket Knight Adventures as well

[Anonymous No.5122146]

>>5122105
>>5122092
>>5122119

Ohhh, I see... I'm watching this vide...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOAATfDXfuY

So Crystal Caves was supposed to be the secret level?

So he forced his way to trigger the event.

So the Ice Key would unlock Crystal Cave through BK fridge.

Pretty much all Rare secrets are just moved/redesigned/canceled stuff in the end.

[Anonymous No.5122193]

>>5122146

>Pretty much all Rare secrets are just moved/redesigned/canceled stuff in the end.

but there's a metric asston of it all over the place so it leaves a lot for players to try and figure out.

[Anonymous No.5122214]

>>5122193
Yes. They'd leave a lot of stuff in game.

I think that the Cloud Cuckoland Stage from Tooie is actually the leftovers of DK64/BK/BT/Conker mixed in one stage...

They also left the last stage unfinished in that game.

[Anonymous No.5122219]

>>5122214
>>5122193
What I mean is that... we pretty much see everything there was to see, including the Fungi Forest. That was just probably redesigned. Like Clanky's stage.

[Anonymous No.5122226]

In Pokemon X&Y there is an obscure sidequest that rewards the player with an item called Strange Souvenir. This is the only place the item shows up. The flavor text indicates that it is from another region away from where the game takes place. It has no use, cannot be transferred between games and is only worth a tiny amount of money if sold.

In Pokemon Sun & Moon it reappears as a more common item with flavor text updated to show that the region of Sun/Moon is it's place of origin, and has been given a higher selling price. Still, I always found this mysterious as it seems like a feature intended to link the 2 games that was cut.

[Anonymous No.5122232]

>>5122226
not retro

[Anonymous No.5122495]

>>5119205
I think I remember reading that basically, they wanted Link's hair to be distinct from his hat's band. Honestly though, I've always thought it was a coloring mistake when someone was working on his palette, and for whatever reason it stuck.

[Anonymous No.5122605]

[Anonymous No.5122719]

>>5121368
No it wasn't retard, it was always a distant prequel with a different Link and Awakening and Oracles are direct sequels to it.

>>5121719
Wrong. There was always a timeline. Ocarina was explicitly made as an origin story for Ganon. It even goes out of its way at the end to tell the player if he enters the sacred realm it will be corrupted by his evil, exactly what happens in ALTTP.

>>5122052
There have always been connections between the games, many have stories built on them, like Wind Waker and Twilight Princess. It's always been there. Not sure why this triggers you autists so greatly. Is it just that you're too stupid to understand it or what?

[Anonymous No.5123753]

[Anonymous No.5123794]

>>5103326
that would be cool

[Anonymous No.5123930]

>>5122719

I'm not a fucking brainlet, it's painfully obvious there are connections between the games and even times when the games make clear references to others.

But you can't tell me that thimeline they put together makes any sense. It's a ass load of what ifs all revolving around OoT (shocker). And some of the games just seem thrown in wherever the fuck they felt like there was some empty space. Like 4 swords adventure apparently being the second game in the timeline chronologically right after skyward sword.

it reeks of something they just threw together to get people to stop asking. That's all im saying. I've always liked that it was sort of just left up to interpretation of when the games took place where/why/etc.

[Anonymous No.5124004]

>>5100549
>pikablue
What a blast from the past. Remember when we used to get excited about new pokemon, how insanely hyped everyone was for the first pokemon movie because you could see phanphy or some shit in it? Those were the days.

Also Super Saiyan Blue Pikachu.

[Anonymous No.5124294]

>>5116371
jew tattoo

[Anonymous No.5124526]

[Anonymous No.5124527]

[Anonymous No.5124530]

>>5093087
Don't know, looks arabic or maybe farsi

[Anonymous No.5124535]

[Anonymous No.5124563]

>>5121971
>If you kill him as an adult you get 200 rupees.
>
>So we never kill him.

There's more than one Skull Kid, so the one you can kill could be another one, even if he is in the same place.

[Anonymous No.5124573]

>>5121725
The HUD/Status bar looks heavily influenced by SMB3

[Anonymous No.5124720]

>>5092472
wow this is the power of reddit

[Anonymous No.5124795]

I always wondered that the exclamation marks meant something. Never really got an answer.

[Anonymous No.5124845]

>>5124720
>>5092496
>>5092864
Man who believes he is being mocked responds with clarifying civility and is by all appearances not mad. Curiously he is mocked more aggressively by current posters.
>Nah you don't get it.
Responds local poster when quizzed about events.
>Being nice makes you look like a faggot. In all probability, he's probably a feminist too. I bet when someone bumps into him in the street he just nods his head thinks nothing of it. A real alpha male such as myself would get real mad and try and beat up anyone who bumped into me to prove I'm not a pussy.
>When I enter a thread I want to experience the feeling of flaming my teammates in League of Legends while they flame me back. That's really what I want in my community.

[Anonymous No.5124871]

>>5124845
If chan culture is too strong for you, maybe go back to r eddit.

[Anonymous No.5124883]

>>5124795
I think I had been playing this game for 10 years before I knew about the Money Ship to begin with

[Anonymous No.5125046]

>>5124795
are you serious

[Anonymous No.5125773]

>>5124883
Nah i know about the money ship. Just always felt that one block had some deeper purpose.

[Anonymous No.5125787]

>>5124883
>>5125046
kek I thought it was too when I was 5, but I learned soon enough

[Anonymous No.5125843]

>>5124845
All these words just to say, "No u."

[Anonymous No.5126246]

what is the reflection map in mario 64 from? it looks like they used a photo

[Anonymous No.5126251]

>>5113060
1 bit

[Anonymous No.5126339]

>>5093853

SOM actually takes place on Mars before or after humanity.

Did they destroy themselves and the only remnant is that face that we see there now?
Or are they our descendants after we colonized Mars and eventually abandoned technology after the tech wars?

[Anonymous No.5126571]

>>5093953
what happens?

[Anonymous No.5126606]

>>5126571
It turns into Wario

[Anonymous No.5126637]

>>5126246
It's goatse but reenacted by Miyamoto

[Anonymous No.5126709]

[Anonymous No.5126715]

>>5091883
cop metaphors

[Anonymous No.5126720]

>>5126709
>we could have gotten this redesign but instead we got the autistic green eyed lanky faggot

[Anonymous No.5126945]

>>5106894
Maybe your mistaking Ocarina of Time with Majora's mask

[Anonymous No.5126976]

>>5093168
>>5091458
According to interviews there were originally supposed to be something like 30 levels

[Anonymous No.5127052]

>>5093295
all other paintings are reusing an existing painting/world. this one isnt

[Anonymous No.5127341]

>>5102018
I was obsessed with Tibia mysteries 15 years ago. My favorites were the sword of fury and the basilisk. People figured out how to make the sword disappear from its island and supposedly it would move somewhere else where it was actually obtainable but as far as I know no one ever actually managed to get it (or if they did they never shared how).

In 2006 someone named Dennis aka Toor 'hacked' CIP and got access to all of the server-side files that ran the game including quests, dialogue, etc. According to him the Sword of Fury is obtainable though very hard to get but he never explained how. Knightmare, the dev who created Rookgaard, has also confirmed that it's possible to get the sword but if I remember correctly he wouldn't comment on whether or not anyone has actually gotten it.

Back when I played using a pick on certain ground tiles in Rookgaard would open up entrances to secret chambers. Once that became common knowledge CIP removed them and people tried testing every ground tile assuming they had just moved it somewhere else.

As for the basilisk, my guess is it was part of an unfinished quest or was just never actually meant to be anything more than a flavor creature. I would love to talk to the people who made the game and learn about all the secrets, cut content, etc. Maybe one day when Tibia is gone a dev from back then will share some cool stories with us.

[Anonymous No.5127348]

>>5106148
Why is speedrunning such a shitfest

[Anonymous No.5127365]

>>5122052
>>5122076
Seems good enough to me. Just pretend that every story is an alternate universe and take them on a case by case basis.

[Anonymous No.5127418]

>>5126246

Lakitu on the right, camera on the left.

[Anonymous No.5127661]

>>5127341
>>5127341
Holy shit, this client background brings back some memories. When I started playing it was pic related, but the one you posted was so much better.
I remember hearing someone had hacked CIP but wouldn't share the info. I assumed it was bullshit at the time, was any kind of proof ever released?

[Anonymous No.5127683]

where does the staircase lead to, I need to know

[Anonymous No.5127879]

>>5127341
>In 2006 someone named Dennis aka Toor 'hacked' CIP and got access to all of the server-side files that ran the game including quests, dialogue, etc. According to him the Sword of Fury is obtainable though very hard to get but he never explained how. Knightmare, the dev who created Rookgaard, has also confirmed that it's possible to get the sword but if I remember correctly he wouldn't comment on whether or not anyone has actually gotten it.
Or maybe that shit was always a ruse.
Putting that sword on that little island was obviously meant to inspire speculation and people bullshitting one another (and Rookgaard culture was basically nothing but people trolling one another).

I no longer trust anything any dev says ever, and retroactively this extends to any and all "leaks" and "hacks" as well. A "hacker" getting the deets on the biggest mystery in the entire game but then not telling anybody stretches my credibility.
Plus, ain't this game basically dead? Usually what happens is things like these either get their beans spilled (as a publicity stunt) or get turned into a real quest (if they were just some weird thing that players' imaginations ran away with) eventually.

>>5127661
>but the one you posted was so much better.
Naw fuck you. That update was the beginning of the end.

[Anonymous No.5127884]

>>5127683
the basement

[Anonymous No.5128269]

>>5127661
>>5127879
He released the map files which you can probably still find online somewhere. If you've ever played 7.6 on a private server with the 'real' map that server is probably using those files. He never released the files for all the quests so maybe he made up that part or maybe he just didn't want to spoil the fun for everyone. Who knows.

Compared to 10 years ago Tibia is pretty much dead these days. But there are still some people playing and CIP still makes money selling skins and stuff. But the game has changed so much that I doubt any of the old mysteries from when I played are even relevant anymore. For example, they replaced the old tutorial island with some bullshit that takes less than an hour to get through. And remember the portal behind the door that required being level 999 to open? It was obviously put there as a joke but now some people have actually reached level 999. So they made some tiny half-assed island where you get a trophy. They clearly don't want to put much effort into things that most people won't see.

[Anonymous No.5128374]

>>5127341
Tibia used to have GREAT content but eventually it gave space to a grind fuckfest.

I play on Medivia but it took the same direction, now people that play it are char buyers and non-english speakers

[Anonymous No.5128407]

>>5091531
>Why would Bond launch a missile
He heard there was a thot on the other side of the planet and needed to get there as fast as physically possible so he'd launch a missile and latch onto it with a grappling hook. Presumably he would also spray his name onto the side of the missile with a machine gun so everyone below would know who he was.

[Anonymous No.5128707]

>>5128269
Wait, Rookgaard doesn't even exist anymore and they still haven't resolved the sword mystery?

Confirmed shenanigans.

[Anonymous No.5128718]

>>5128407
He needs to let go and free fall into in a resort pool, get out steal someone's martini from a waiters tray, sip, grimace and softly utter, "Stirred."

[Anonymous No.5128761]

>>5091464
Why his dick out?

[Anonymous No.5128774]

>>5128718
>resort pool
not realistic, hed hit the bottom. it needs to be a cruise ship and he needs to land in the ocean. there needs to be shark and he needs to kick it with a switch blade kitana hidden in his shoe sole. after he climbs on the ship after making quick work of the shark he needs to hang his suit jacket to dry before he even acknowledges the martinis existence. THAT is how bond rolls

[Anonymous No.5128829]

>>5122076
> but here's the catch, Twilight World was supposed to be the Dark World we see in A Link to the Past.
Twilight Princess says that the Twilight Realm was a place where the Hylians used to banish criminals a long ago time before OOT. The Dark World was created during OOT when Ganondorf corrupted the Sacred Realm. They can't both be the same thing.

>>5121550
mario can't jump into that painting

[Anonymous No.5128964]

>>5128829
They're not the same thing.

But they were supposed to be. The Zelda development doesn't follow the GDD correctly, so they keep changing the game... again and again.

So they created this Twilight World, with the same characteristics of the Dark World from ALttP.

It shines like gold... you become something that represents your subconscious when you enter it...

They did the same with A Link Between Worlds... that probably started as a remake from ALttP and then they changed it to Lorule.

Sadly Aonuma doesn't care about Zelda story. He just make everything as he goes.

The guy who cared about that was Koizume... I guess that most of OoT consistency came from him. Sadly Miyamoto also stepped in and asked for the Child/Adult thing, that's pretty cool but created plotholes.

[Anonymous No.5129050]

>>5103221
m8 you say the cost of these things now. I have an unsealed goldeneye 64. I'm not selling mine until I retire and that is 30 years from now.

[Anonymous No.5129405]

>>5115162
That's most of us anon. I've had dreams of games that don't exist. Mainly of things that would be similar to DKC rom hacks.

[Anonymous No.5129549]

>>5128964
>Sadly Aonuma doesn't care about Zelda story. He just make everything as he goes.

idk. I suspect that this is what we're supposed to believe, but even before BOTW came out I was starting to suspect there's some sneaky Confucian tomfoolery at work in that series, which BOTW then confirmed big-style.

Meaning that, while I can't back it up without writing a giant wanky essay that nobody will read anyway, I think there's a sort of meta-narrative at work in the series which they've been slowly constructing... in reverse.
So many of the stories about how things turned out may just be lies to maintain the illusion that things are simpler than they really are (plus an advantage of building something in this way is that you can recontextualise genuine development weirdness as something intentional which you can retroactively give meaning to).

Point is... I think they really do care about the story. But they way they're implementing it requires that they make a show of acting much more casually than it seems like they should for such an important series.
Nintendo seems really aware of that fact that kids grow up with their games (and none of us used a time skip to become Old Links). The "real" story is experienced by somebody one step outside the narrative depth of the in-game protagonist, and I'm guessing that's the level at which everything is eventually meant to come together. There's some real fucking Ready Player One shit in BOTW if you really dig, but the whole thing seems to have this really intentional sense of... incompleteness. Which of course there's some bullshit dev story to handwave away, even though it's clearly an implicit design feature.

Anyway that's my "please abuse me" post for today.

[Anonymous No.5129630]

>>5129549
>>5128964
>>5128829
>>5122076
>>5122052
>>5121369
Timeline fags have the most acute strain of life-crippling autism

[Anonymous No.5129673]

>>5129630
>the most accurate strain

[Anonymous No.5129864]

>>5094951
Chances are it was part of Gogo's extended quest line that was cut from the game. He was supposed to mimic NPCs in world of balance, with little to no explanation, and then mimic PCs in WoR. You were supposed to find him with the character he was mimicing as the lead in the party.

As for Siegfried himself, not sure what story they originally had for him. Only fitting things I can think of:
>recruitable character as a Shadow replacement if you let him die
>A possible quest line for Shadow, his friend he failed to kill also turned assassin.
>Maybe a Cyan rival with a secret sword technique or sword

[Anonymous No.5130080]

>>5129864
Gogo had a storyline?

[Anonymous No.5130087]

>>5129549
I don't know. TWW is literally half finished and BotW don't even have proper dungeons.

[Anonymous No.5130101]

>>5130080
From the Will:

>It was originally intended for Gogo to be found in any of the pubs in the World of Ruin disguised as one of the player characters not in the player's active party. Gogo would randomly cycle between the towns based on a timer and if the player managed to speak to them with the real character they were disguised as, Gogo would reveal themselves and join the party.

>The developers felt the quest was too difficult and changed this for the final version of the game.[3] This could possibly suggest that the Siegfried imposter was meant to be Gogo during development.

[Anonymous No.5130117]

>>5130087
How can we tell the difference between something which is genuinely half-finished, and something which is merely affecting a half-finished aesthetic?

I mean, sure, a lot of games get rushed out the door. But that also makes that quality a convention of the medium which somebody could affect intentionally...
Nintendo are an example of somebody with unlimited resources, and more than enough industry experience that there's no genuine reason they should EVER find themselves in a rush scenario. Konami is another.

[Anonymous No.5130190]

>>5129549
They don't care about the timeline. They haven't cared about the timeline since they made WW and TP, two sequels to a prequel (OoT) that were mutually incompatible as well as not fitting with the game (LttP) of which OoT was a prequel.

[Anonymous No.5130207]

>>5130117
Gamecube was losing the console war, they had no massive titles, so they had to release what they had.

There're a lot of underused assets in TWW, like Link slipping and sliding, a puzzle that had a float thing that you could spin with the Deku Leaf...

The Ghost Ship was probably a cut dungeon...

You don't get into the dungeon to get the Nayru's Pearl... but we go through a strange quest that the world can't get daylight because Ganondorf curso (which is really out of place)... so we don't get the bombs in the dungeon, but by doing a strange sidequest connected to Tetra...

Nintendo does deliver games half-finished. Mario Sunshine was unfinished too.

They cut Farore's Oracle game because it couldn't fit the password system (which means that they probably have an unreleased almost finished Zelda game...).

[Anonymous No.5130956]

>>5103232
Fag lmao
Stick to Reddit casual

[Anonymous No.5131130]

>>5110771
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Boethiah%27s_Pillow_Book

Read up about Boethia for more info on why this book only has that entry.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Boethiah

[Anonymous No.5131287]

>>5091878
>>5091883
>>5091887
>>5091915
Never change, /vr/.

[Anonymous No.5131749]

>>5113102
eheheheheh

[Anonymous No.5132249]

>>5124535
wtf never realized that shit

[Anonymous No.5132575]

>>5126720
Life is suffering, anon.

[Anonymous No.5132995]

>>5129864

I always felt like Siegfried was a subtle nod to Gilgamesh in 5. Bumbling swordsman type.

[Anonymous No.5133773]

Does anybody remember the blue ribbon falling down from mercator castle in landstalker?

Or the cursed book at the church in the dwarven village?

[Anonymous No.5134140]

>>5116397
He is the ancestor of Ravio and LTTP is actually set in Lorule pre-triforxe destruction. LTTP is what inspired Princess Hilda's father to destroy the Triforce, and call his Daughter Hilda instead of Zelda

Prove to me this isn't a worth a Hyrule Historia tier retcon.

[Anonymous No.5134146]

>>5122052
The Hyrule Historia has the timeline, get the Hyrule Encyclopaedia and the first thing it does it retcon the timeline saying "while the Hyrule Historia says this, it doesn't really make sense so instead..."

[Anonymous No.5134149]

>>5122085
Should have been a giant giant first, Dark like that Dark island, and then Deku tree and shit wouldn't appeal until you went through a fallen log, and the fallen log moved everytime you visited the area.

You could still warp to middle, but you would have to find the fallen log again

[Anonymous No.5136165]

>>5128761
it's his walking stick

[Anonymous No.5136186]

>>5136165
The universe is fundamentally dualistic, so it's both.

[Anonymous No.5136223]

>>5123930
It's most likely that they do have an internal timeline that they use at will, and which is pretty coarse in resolution.
The official timeline just adds a bunch of detail that they never thought about before.

So, for example, MM follows OoT and SS is the first game in the timeline, but the actual events of SS contradict later games.

In fact, there's like two or three origin stories for the Master Sword because Nintendo doesn't care enough about the greater story beyond "this is roughly where shit is positioned".

And then you have the moronic timeline where Links dies, because Nintendo somehow was unable to think of a better way to fit those games in.

Personally, BotW made me think that BotW is actual events happening as you are playing them, due to its immersive sim nature and its more mundane reality, while the other games are more like retellings of history. That's why shit is off and contradictory.
Breath of the Wild is basically modern-day Zelda, where most of the magic stuff has disappeared. It's why the Zora aren't living underwater anymore, why there's no actual dungeons, why there's no diving mechanic, etc.

Basically, BotW is a documentary, while the other Zelda games are myths and legends based on events that may or may not have been as fantastical as the story claims them to be. The general goofyness of 3D Zelda games - carrying oversized items, meeting outrageously weird characters, etc. - can also be easily explained if that isn't exactly what actually happened.

[Anonymous No.5136226]

>>5130190
>They haven't cared about the timeline since they made WW and TP, two sequels to a prequel (OoT) that were mutually incompatible as well as not fitting with the game (LttP) of which OoT was a prequel.
Why would they be incompatible? In this case the official timeline actually makes sense: OoT Link in the adult timeline travelled back to young timeline, so WW's timeline was without a Link, while TP's timeline follows from young Link and thus there's still a Link.
Might even be possible that the event that caused the world to flood in WW is actually TP.
So WW's Link might be the only Link to not be a reincarnation.

[Anonymous No.5136235]

>>5136223
>In fact, there's like two or three origin stories for the Master Sword because Nintendo doesn't care enough about the greater story beyond "this is roughly where shit is positioned".

Or because that's intentionally ambiguous because it isn't really relevant to the real focus of the overall metaphor of the story.
Have you ever thought about the overlap between Peter Pan and Link?>

[Anonymous No.5136404]

>>5136235
>Have you ever thought about the overlap between Peter Pan and Link?>
You mean the fact that there's literally no overlap aside from the color scheme?

[Anonymous No.5136429]

>>5136404
Is that what I mean? Or are you maybe a simpleton?

[Anonymous No.5136603]

>>5118897
I spent so long searching for that. It wasn’t until they datamined it that I gave up hope that it was in the game.

Speaking of mysteries in OOT. During my search I found a curiosity In the Jabu Jabu section of Zora’s domain. It was near the entrance to the fairy fountain. You needed the gold gauntlets to move a Boulder which revealed a hole covered by a flat stone. I think you had to use the hammer on it or maybe a bomb could blow it up but anyway you drop in the hole and it puts you in a dark tunnel. The tunnel leads up and loops back the open water area, but is infested with invisible large skultullas. There wasn’t any piece of a heart or anything. I always wondered if there was more too it.

[Anonymous No.5136618]

>>5124527
This thing haunts my dreams. I remember getting it once but then never again. Maaaybe once more.

[Anonymous No.5136629]

>>5136603
There's a Gold Skulltula there. It's pretty built up with all the invisible skulltulas because I think they figured it was the final one you'd find

[Anonymous No.5136649]

>>5093250
They are pretty pleased with themselves in general, but they get hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations each event. I'm sure good chunks of that are embezzled and spent on running the event, but they do contribute something to the charities.

[Anonymous No.5136673]

>>5122605
Maybe it’s supposed to be a fountain?

[Anonymous No.5136704]

>>5136629
Hmmm... I guess I missed it then. Well that actually gives me a little resolution. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.5136763]

>>5136603
There's a gold skultulla but that was obviously going to be used to another thing. I have a theory that you'd access Zora's domain through the Forest. I think that was connected to that.

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>>5121725
I believe you are not supposed to be hit up to that point. After you have cleared the first world, the spaceship shows up.

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>>5124526

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>>5137741
what is it?