/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5038972]

What's the best classic Dragon Quest and why is it 5?

[Anonymous No.5039067]

5's good. I like 4 the most. The chapter structure is just so unique.

[Anonymous No.5039153]

post more toriyama artwork

[Anonymous No.5039796]

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[Anonymous No.5039802]

3, 5, and 7 are my favorites

[Anonymous No.5039805]

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>>5039823
Last one gotta poop and sleep, if thread is up tomorrow i will dump every thing i have, I-XI.

[Anonymous No.5039839]

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Danks

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[Anonymous No.5040848]

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>>5039067
What makes people like 4 over 5 or 8

[Anonymous No.5040981]

>>5038972
5 or 3.

[Anonymous No.5041040]

>>5040948
At their core, all dragon quests are the exact same game, so to pick a favorite one has to look to whatever little gimmick an entry may have which slightly sets them apart from the others. 4's chapter system really works for me.

[Anonymous No.5041327]

>>5039067
4 is what Octopath wishes it could be

[Anonymous No.5041328]

>>5038972
5 in the west and 3 in Japan is pretty much the universally agreed truth

[Anonymous No.5041390]

Top tier monster companion

[Anonymous No.5041416]

>>5041390
only the golem can compete

[Anonymous No.5041469]

3 is way better for it's time, 5 is a close second with a interesting feature and story

[Anonymous No.5041507]

>>5041469
5 has better mechanics, better world and better story
How can you say 3 is better?
The only reason Japs even like 3 is because they grew up with DQ1 and DQ2 hyping up Roto (Erdrick) to high heaven.

[Anonymous No.5041558]

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When you factor in availability, stats, abilities, and ease of capture, I'd say Slime Knight, Orc King, and Golem are the best.

Great Dragon would be the best if he wasn't an incredibly hard catch at the very end of the game.

One of these days I want to do a really dumb ROMhack where capturing a Dragon Pup/Small Fry in the second gen results in them growing into a Great Dragon after the timeskip.

[Anonymous No.5041580]

>>5041327
At least Octopatch makes up for a disjointed narrative with better combat.

[Anonymous No.5041591]

>>5041507
3 has a way more open structure, 5 is for the most part linear. 5 is much more story focused, in 3 you make your own story.

>>5041580
one thing that's rad about that game is that you are free to visit any town on the world as soon as you finish the start quest.

[Anonymous No.5041620]

>>5041591
Haven't played DQ3 yet, how does Alefgard factor into it?
What what I see in google, DQ3 map is completely different from DQ1 and DQ2 map so I'm very confused as to how the fuck is it supposed to be set in the same world.

[Anonymous No.5041621]

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[Anonymous No.5041638]

>>5041507
>How can you say 3 is better?
Dungeon design, encounter design, less utterly broken shit, and better exploration. I like V's monster catching in theory, but the balance fucking sucks and you can easily trivialize any part of the game without intending to just by getting good recruits.

[Anonymous No.5041639]

>>5041620
where have you been, play it already.

Two thirds into the game after defeating a big-time bad guy you enter a hole (named Giana on that image) and descend to Alefgard many years before 1 and 2 take place. See it as an "underworld" of sorts where the big bad reigns.

[Anonymous No.5041653]

>>5041639
Playing 8 right now.
1 and 2 were so extremely dated I needed to take a break and play something more sensible.
Can you elaborate on that spoiler?
Does it mean that DQ3 is not actually set in the past but in the future and that the protag just so happens to time travel to alternate dimension of DQ1? Because that would genuinely make DQ1 a lot worse retroactively to me.

[Anonymous No.5041661]

>>5041653
>1 and 2 were so extremely dated
on a second note, just stick to your modern games. I'm done talking to you.

[Anonymous No.5041662]

>>5041661
You are deluded if you think DQ1 and 2 aren't anything more than a history lesson.
Fucking FF1 is much less dated than those two.
But feel free to get cancer and die like the /v/ermin nigger you are.

[Anonymous No.5041703]

Talking of which, what's everybody's opinion on DQXI?

[Anonymous No.5041713]

>>5041661
He's not wrong. the first two dragon quests are a quintessential examples of games aging poorly - especially in the aspect of requiring grinding for no other reason than to pad out game length.

[Anonymous No.5041735]

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[Anonymous No.5041749]

Why don't we have more jrpg protagonists like this? Where the main character is a nobody who just happens to be married/tagging along with the real hero/chosen one.

Even games that are similar, such as final fantasy x, there is still a hint of the main character being "chosen" or the obvious plot chosen one.

Despite how cliche and formulaic dragon Quest games can be, I don't think I ever related more with a character than the dqv protagonist. I really cared about his journey and his happiness

[Anonymous No.5041752]

>>5041735
>this faggot ultimately ended the princess solo run
;_;

[Anonymous No.5041767]

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When i finish with II art gonna post some cool shit.

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>>5041703
Looking forward to it. What more is there to say?

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>>5041789
Last one, gotta see the Direct

[Anonymous No.5041948]

>>5039823
When I was a kid, I thought that line across his face was his nose, which meant he had to have a snout because it was so wide. That in turn meant that he must be some kind of beastman or dragonborn fucker, so the hair became ears, and the collar must have been a mane.
It was pretty intimidating and befitting in my mind for the leader of a race of monsters that opposed the human world and lived in the ruins of old towns and castles.

A decade later Dragon Warrior Monsters came out and he got updated spritework, and I found out he's just a goofy little man trying to sport the Dracula version of a pompadour. It was an odd realization.

[Anonymous No.5042908]

Are these games good if you can get past the kiddy graphics?

[Anonymous No.5043157]

>>5042908
That depends on if you like JRPG gameplay or not.
If the answer to that is yes, then they are good. Starting from IV, they also have some surprisingly good stories, and they're not at all afraid to punch you in the gut when you least expect it.

[Anonymous No.5043179]

>>5042908
They're pretty decent gameplay wise, almost SMT-like especially V.

You can avoid VI and VII, they both use the "vocation" system which is kinda like FF's Jobs but incredibly tedious to level. VI is very bland, even Toriyama's designs take a nosedive. VII is just tediously long due to being made up of 20+ stories although a few of them are very good in a fable/fairytale way. The overall story is the standard DQ theme since II so isn't that interesting when you know where it's going. Also be warned, VII has some of the worst pre-rendered CG scenes of the PS1 era.

[Anonymous No.5043192]

>>5043179
VII is worth playing, just not as one of your first Dragon Quest games. VI can definitely be avoided.

[Anonymous No.5043206]

>>5041662
>FF1 is much less dated than DQ2

When was the last time you played FF1? I like FF1 but it isn't anywhere near the polish of DQ2. FF1 is very much a prototype of ideas taken from D&D and Wizardry stuffed in a DQ style game. Putting in a whole bunch of spells that are either bugged or pointless, having filler dungeon and a whole filler fetch quest line that takes up 1/3 of the game, which was probably done as Square's "test area" to see if they could make an RPG and then left it in the game.

[Anonymous No.5043208]

>>5043206
Square made RPGs before Final Fantasy.

[Anonymous No.5043212]

>>5043206
FF1 is way more fun than DQ2. You can make your own party, which adds to replayability, and the game is better paced.

[Anonymous No.5043237]

>>5043206
As a huge Dragon Quest fan i gotta say though i love DQII i believe that FFI is a better game, due to it's difficulty and >>5043212
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[Anonymous No.5043251]

>>5041328
I thought it was 4 and 3 in the west, and 3 and 5 in Japan unless I have missed something in the last few years.

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[Anonymous No.5043253]

>>5043252
Got a party right now on III for the GBC that has a Priest (prev a Mage), a Mage (prev a Priest), a Sage (prev a Warrior) and a Mage who has been a Dealer and a Thief, gonna make her a priest later and a Goof Off to end up becoming the Sage of the party, after that gonna make my current Sage go back to being a Warrior because you gotta love the female Warrior, dude.>>5043240

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>>5043253
Those are four characters but you only have three slots.

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>>5043260
>He doesn't know
Tell me a good joke and i will tell you the deal behind that.

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[Anonymous No.5043295]

>>5043283
Last one.
>>5043260
Maybe you just googled it but whatever the case, to get the Hero out of the party you have to beat the Divine dragon in less than 25 turns (then 20 and after that rhe condition stays at 15), doing so he will grant you a wish from a list wish, one of those wishes is to revive Ortega (Hero's father) once he revives he will be at the Hero house talking with your mom, that's when you can drop the hero from the party, he will not be living in his house even more his parents will ask where in the fuck is he, this is on the GBC version dunno if it works on the SNES version though.

[Anonymous No.5043337]

>>5043295
Yes, you can do it in the SNES version as well.

[Anonymous No.5043345]

>>5043295
But you've got to beat the game for that.
Not to mention that beating Shenlong that fast requires a shitload of experience so that all future planning is worthless in comparison.

[Anonymous No.5043351]

How are the spinoff games?

[Anonymous No.5043354]

>>5043351
Honestly, I didn't like any but the DQ Monster and Slime Quest sub-series are generally mentioned as being pretty good. There's also a couple of japan only Mystery Dungeon/Roguelike games that are OK-ish.

[Anonymous No.5043421]

>>5043345
Not in the GBC version that has the Gran Dragon who is way stronger than Xenlong.