/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4904583]

Was it ever actually confirmed that the red face in the background is supposed to be Giygas?

[Anonymous No.4904595]

Does it really matter? It's been pointed out multiple times that the face is Giygas/Giegue's from Mother 1 upside down.

[Anonymous No.4904615]

Sure OP.

[Anonymous No.4904698]

>>4904595
>actually believing his

[Anonymous No.4904968]

>>4904583
Isn't it just a fetus

[Anonymous No.4904978]

>>4904583
It's like a cathulu sorta deal. Giygas' current form is so incomprehensible that that image is the closest we can get to percieving his true form

[Anonymous No.4905092]

>>4904968
The negative space is, but we're talking about the red section here.

[Anonymous No.4905102]

>>4904698
>hurr durr

[Anonymous No.4905347]

>>4905102
This is more of a stretch than the fetus, At least you don't have to turn it upside down to see it

[Anonymous No.4905358]

>>4905347
I don't know if Itoi talked about it or not but I'm pretty sure that he'd find that more plausible than the Fetus crap.

[Anonymous No.4905368]

>>4905347
You think the fetus is a stretch? It seems pretty obvious & undeniable. I mean there's right there for all to see.

[Anonymous No.4905387]

>>4904583
I untwisted it somewhat

[Anonymous No.4905685]

>>4905368
Rorschach test.

[Anonymous No.4905719]

>>4905685
It really isn't. It's undeniably a fetus.

[Anonymous No.4905741]

>>4904583
i think we can all agree gigyas was a fucked up final boss fight.

[Anonymous No.4905757]

fetus theory is gay, it only appears for a single tiny section of le game

[Anonymous No.4905774]

>>4904583
What the fuck else would it be? Yes, the face is Giygas, aka Gyiyg.

>>4904968
>>4905092
>muuuh feeeetus
I'm gonna fucking glass you guys.

>>4905368
IT'S NOT A FUCKING FETUS

[Anonymous No.4905778]

>>4905774

[Anonymous No.4905779]

>>4905774
see >>4905719

Also calm your tits there, sperglord.

[Anonymous No.4905790]

i bet i can trace a dick in that image. giygas is an ancient alien dick thats impregnating earth to have his space baby

[Anonymous No.4905793]

>>4905790
Do it if you're a big man.

[Anonymous No.4905794]

>>4905793
okay

[Anonymous No.4905798]

>>4905790

I bet your dick is malformed.

[Anonymous No.4905801]

>>4905793
i found a dick and a tit, which leads me to believe that giygas was actually an ancient trap

[Anonymous No.4905804]

>>4905801
This is bad and you should feel bad.

[Anonymous No.4905805]

>>4905801

Anon your dick is malformed, that's not what dicks look like.

[Anonymous No.4905808]

>>4905804
im no fucking leonardo davinci and you knw deep down im correct

[Anonymous No.4905810]

giygas is a trap

[Anonymous No.4905815]

>Ness-kun, let me inside of you
>nya nya purr purr
>i-i swear im not bulging

[Anonymous No.4905817]

>>4905808
Go to bed for the night, anon. You're drunk.

[Anonymous No.4905820]

i just might
t>>4905817

[Anonymous No.4905823]

I love this thread

[Anonymous No.4905826]

desu i dont have any opinion on the giygas thing. Its fun to speculate about, but i think the most likely thing is the gigue refrence.

[Anonymous No.4905831]

What do you guys think of the AVGN's giygas theory?

[Anonymous No.4905897]

>>4905810
no, he's an insane alien who misses his mommy.

[Anonymous No.4905924]

>Quibbling over Giygas's appearance and WHAT EXACTLY DID THEY MEAN BY THIS????
>Not discussing the larger point of the whole sequence

At the end of the game, after all seems lost, and everyone you met along the way gave you their energy, it wasn't enough to beat Giygas.

In the end, she has to appeal to somebody, anybody. And the prayer is answered by... well the player. Or at least whatever the player put in when asked what their name was.

So in the end, Giygas died because he's the final boss of the game, and that's what he's there for. The final boss is beaten because you were determined to beat him.

...I mean, for a game that was made in 1994, that's pretty good, right?

[Anonymous No.4906310]

>>4905924
wish it was the only time I ever killed someone with love

[Anonymous No.4906319]

>>4906310
it was an act of mercy to kill him desu

[Anonymous No.4906320]

>>4905924
>Paula and her friends calls touched the heart of Shitstain
jesus, wtf Nintendo...oh, that's what i named myself at the beginning of the game. ha

[Anonymous No.4906331]

>>4905831
It's pure shit if you know anything that happens in mother 1

[Anonymous No.4906341]

>>4906331
most of these dumbass matpat tier theories go out the window if you've played the first mother

[Anonymous No.4906426]

>>4906341
yeah, totally agree with that. But giygas is still an ancient alien trap.

[Anonymous No.4906456]

>>4904978
>cathulu

[Anonymous No.4906459]

>>4906426
>trap
oh god why does that remind me of that morphine doujin of pokey and giygas fucking

[Anonymous No.4906462]

[Anonymous No.4906481]

>>4906459
i've never heard of that and i dont want to see it

[Anonymous No.4906491]

>>4906459i looked it up and its by a guy called "trannyfur" the image is even worse than the name

[Anonymous No.4906607]

>fetus shit
Please stop this bullshit. The fetus theory is nothing more then a theory made up to make the game sound edgier then it is, it's like the bullshit about kids killing themselves after hearing the lavender town theme.

[Anonymous No.4906617]

>>4906607
See >>4905719
It's there plain as day. You want us to just ignore that? What are you, catholic?

[Anonymous No.4906627]

>>4906617
Just a coincidence, or even if intended it probably is more symbolic of Giygas' mind becoming primitive, likeva baby, then the abortion shit people spew. Most people still think the movie scene Itoi saw was a rape, they mangle facts to make it sound deeper then it is.

[Anonymous No.4906634]

>>4906627
Okay, so you're calling everyone's speculation bullshit, and your evidence to back that up is your own speculation. Got it.

[Anonymous No.4906645]

>>4906634
All i'm saying is is that that's all it is, speculation. I just hate it when people parade it around as fact since they think it makes the game sound "darker" and more "mature". Earthbound is a goofy game about goofy kids traveling the world while a bunch of goofy shit happens, I don't know why people try to make it sound deep.

[Anonymous No.4906657]

>>4906459
Link?

[Anonymous No.4906670]

>>4906607
Is it just me or does Itoi look eerily similar to Arino?

[Anonymous No.4906682]

>>4906627
Considering the story's main theme, the fetus makes absolutely perfect sense. The fetus image itself is in the game's files and what you see in the game is virtually unaltered. Check it out for yourself.
I'm sticking to the theory that either it might've been the background animator's idea and Itoi didn't even notice, or it was Itoi's idea all along but he later found it too edgy or in poor taste and started denying it. The adult film story was 100% Itoi's own account and he has since said that his memory of the event was completely off. He's just made some mistakes, that's all.

[Anonymous No.4906694]

>>4906645
So far the only sound theory in this thread is the face being that of Giegue from Mother 1

[Anonymous No.4906718]

>>4906694
Okay but even then Giygas' face in Mother 1 is literally a circle with triangle ears, not like it's that distinct. I think the upside down thing is just some weird coincidence, if that.
>Giegue
Cut that out. His name is Giygas. The name "Giegue" is simply a different interpretation of translating the name "Gyiyg", his Japanese name. Giygas was used in Earthbound and is his canon name in both games. He's the same character in both games.

[Anonymous No.4906724]

>>4906718
I never I never implied that they were two different characters, it's just a habit of mind to refer to him by these two different names when talking about either game, like the Pokey/Porky dilemma.

[Anonymous No.4906745]

>>4906724
Alright, just annoys me as it confuses people. For some reason I see people stupidly insist they're different despite the tag line of Mother 2 literally being "Gyiyg Strikes Back". It pisses me off Nintendo didn't change it for Earthbound Beginnings, such a lazy port celebrated for no real reason.

[Anonymous No.4906756]

>>4906745
I rather like EB Beginnings, the shoddy 1990 translation makes it more authentic.

[Anonymous No.4906757]

>>4905368
kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.4906776]

>>4906718
I like referring to his two different forms by different names. Kinda gives a Ganondorf/Ganon kind of vibe

[Anonymous No.4907335]

>>4906776
I always have and always will just call him Ganon no matter what form he takes.

[Anonymous No.4907353]

>>4906657
heres the link, but dont say i didnt warn you
https://e621.net/post/show/164222/69_position-blush-candy-chocolate-duo-earthbound_-

[Anonymous No.4907356]

>>4907353
I always laugh when I see artists draw pokey as thin rather than the bloated shit he is ingame,

[Anonymous No.4907365]

>>4907356
yeah

[Princess Sevenleaf !IT2uZpX.Ic No.4907389]

>>4905924
>The final boss is beaten because you were determined to beat him
Was Earthbound the Undertale of the 90's?

[Anonymous No.4907392]

>>4907389
Kill yourself for even making the comparison, you fucking magypsy.

[Anonymous No.4907463]

>>4907389
undertale is supreme faggotry, earthbound is actually meaningful and important

[Anonymous No.4907545]

It looks like Marylin Manson.

[Anonymous No.4907568]

>>4907545
wut

[Anonymous No.4907590]

>>4907568

It looks like him after he's been flushed down a toilet.

[Anonymous No.4907661]

[Anonymous No.4907667]

>>4907590
Hey, you, are you trying to be mean?

[Princess sevendustleaf No.4907969]

>>4907389
No you dumb shit. Undertale shamelessly copied dozens of video games and wrapped them up in some basic graphics and repetitive soundtrack.

Undertale resembles mother here because that's what undertale set out to do. Its not like they separately came up with the idea.

[Anonymous No.4908010]

>>4905831
I thought that it was original enough that it helped me to come up with my own theory, just because everyone else just wants to talk about what Giygas looks like.

My opinion is that Earthbound is less about Ness and Giygas and more about the player and draws on Japanese religious philosophy. I see Giygas as a representation of spiritual impurity within the the player and the game as a kind of journey to acquire positive feelings of childhood strength in order to banish Giygas and exorcise that spiritual impurity from your own life. Like, for example, if your feeling down about losing a girlfriend or a job you might play Earthbound, escape into your childhood, defeat Giygas, and now maybe you'll feel much happier.

[Anonymous No.4908024]

>>4907389
Did you say this stupid shit on purpose to get Mother fans to destroy your ass?

[Anonymous No.4908041]

>>4907389
The creator of Undertale got his start making edgy EarthBound romhacks. Sans's battle theme actually appeared in one of those hacks before appearing in Undertale. So the similarities are not a coincidence.

[Anonymous No.4908052]

>>4905102

[Anonymous No.4908064]

>>4904978
I like this theory best

[Anonymous No.4908142]

Itoi literally debunked the fetus interpretation and said the baby outline was a coincidence

[Anonymous No.4908157]

>>4908052
so I guess that makes his insane ramblings in the final battle about Maria and the kids from Mother 1, huh?

[Anonymous No.4908335]

>>4908142
There's no way that's a coincidence. I'm sure it wasn't Itoi himself who put it in there but rather someone from the lower decks feeling creative. Such a complex and distinct shape does not occur just by happenstance.

[Anonymous No.4908372]

>>4908335
There's nothing complex about that shape, my dude. It's very simply; my bed sheets can randomly make that shape. Do you think natural rock formations and clouds with simple shapes resembling human faces are a result of someone's design too?

[Anonymous No.4908420]

>>4906718
When talking about Mother, Gyiyg feels appropriate, in Earthbound, where he becomes a dementia ridden intergalactic hate ghost, I refer to him as Giygas.
I'm not sure that's proper, but it just feels right, like it emphasizes his transformation.

[Anonymous No.4908424]

>>4908372
It's more than just the face, but also the distinct shape of the fetal head.

Look, the fact is that pattern was designed & drawn by human hands, and it then had to be approved by some sort of editing process before it made it into the game. It literally can't be coincidence.

[Anonymous No.4908425]

>>4907463
you have been manipulated perfectly you tool

[Anonymous No.4908426]

>>4907969
>repetitive soundtrack.
is this guy being serious right now

is it actually possible to be this ignorant and inattentive

[Anonymous No.4908431]

>>4907389
No. Aside from both taking inspiration from various media, but that's hardly unique.

>>4908041
True. He distanced himself from those (I would too), but you can still see a lot of the genesis for UT in the Halloween Hack.
It is better told and thought out in UT, but it's still not amazing.

I think the guy might have some talent though, so it'd be neat to see him do an all new game with fresh ideas and more fun gameplay, I figure he may be able to pull something off.

[Anonymous No.4908435]

>>4908335
even if it were intentional, that's not a fetus, it would mean that giygas is literally inside of the kids' heads

[Anonymous No.4908436]

>>4908424
It literally can, it could be that nobody looked closely and never thought "fetus".

[Anonymous No.4908438]

>>4908425
>>4908426
UT will never have even an ounce of the soul and wit that Itoi's works, deal with it

[Anonymous No.4908441]

>>4906718
giegue is 100% canon, fuck off back to starmen.net

[Anonymous No.4908442]

>>4908441
pretty sure even the spergs at starmen are content with either name

[Anonymous No.4908447]

>>4908435
How many times do I have to point to >>4905719 ? How can anyone look at that and say it isn't what it clearly is?

Do you do that all day long? You see an apple and go "That's not an apple?" You then see a loaf of bread and go, "That apple looks delicious!"

[Anonymous No.4908456]

>>4908447
No matter how much you REEE about it, that image is intentionally over-detailed to make it appear like something is there, when in reality it's still a youtube-tier fan theory.

[Anonymous No.4908458]

>>4908456
Well fuck man, I just don't know how to go further with folks who flat-out deny reality. I'm arguing with a crazy person.

[Anonymous No.4908462]

>>4908458
I'm not the guy you were arguing with initially, just someone else who doesn't believe the fetus-theory.

[Anonymous No.4908484]

>>4908458
just because you can see a baby head doesn't mean that it was intentional, it could just be something that happened by chance and never had any reason to be corrected.

[Anonymous No.4908495]

>>4908484
It isn't a Jackson Pollack painting. That was drawn by a real person. Someone drew that. On purpose.

>>4908462
Would you at least agree that this is a fetus there but it doesn't necessary mean that Giygas himself is some prenatal child there to be aborted?

[Anonymous No.4908535]

>>4908484
Why is there a cervix and intestines leading up to the not a fetus?

[Anonymous No.4908548]

>>4908495
No, I wouldn't.

[Anonymous No.4908554]

>>4908495
I can see it but I highly doubt that it was intentional, they just wanted to take advantage of the SNES's hardware with it.

[Anonymous No.4908561]

>>4908495
>Someone drew that. On purpose.
it's a single image being repeated and put into distorted effects. Itoi said it himself that the effect was randomly generated.

[Anonymous No.4908568]

>>4908335
Humans are very, very good at seeing faces in things that aren't faces.

[Anonymous No.4908578]

>>4908568
It's more than just the face. It's also the distinct head, and the shape of a slumped upper torso.

[Anonymous No.4908581]

>>4908578
You need a fuckin boot up your ass

[Anonymous No.4908582]

>>4908561
The fetus is still seen in the base image before the SNES applies any distortion effects.

[Anonymous No.4908590]

>>4908582
The image itself is distorted, then the background is put into a repeat pattern and distorted even more

[Anonymous No.4908614]

a fetus is a fetus, you can't say it's only half

[Anonymous No.4908631]

>>4908052
If this looks like anything to you you're absolutely fuckin mental

[Anonymous No.4908645]

>>4908142

[citation needed]

link?

[Anonymous No.4908649]

>>4908631
Turning it upsidedown doesn't make it magically go away.

[Anonymous No.4908679]

>>4908649
Exactly, that was meant for the upsidedownfags. I should've specified with "except upsidedown fetuses".

[Anonymous No.4908682]

>>4908631
it looks like a hellish version of his appearance in mother 1, there i fucking said it

[Anonymous No.4908689]

>>4908682
This is correct.

[Anonymous No.4908697]

>>4908689
of course, it links the two games together, the fetus shit is game theory tier faggotry that even the most diehard mother fans reject

[Anonymous No.4908704]

>>4906491
The artist is Morphine you fucking idiot, trannyfur just posted the comment

[Anonymous No.4908705]

>>4908682
For the sake of argument I'll agree that the face does. If the rest looks like a body to you, either outline it or visit a fucking psychiatrist.

[Anonymous No.4908734]

>>4906670
I see no similarity

[Anonymous No.4908739]

>>4908734
do you want me to kick your ass?

[Anonymous No.4908740]

>>4908734
think it's the clothes and eyebrows that remind me of arino

[Anonymous No.4908784]

>>4908535
Actually i take it back. They are pipes connected to giygas mother 1 sphere. I also buy the upside down face now. It does still look like a bunch of fetus though

[Anonymous No.4908794]

>>4908784
and how do his lines during the battle fit in?

[Anonymous No.4908824]

>>4908631

Neat, a real life autist posting on my /vr/

*Snap*

[Anonymous No.4908865]

>>4908824
I think you mean >>4908649

[Anonymous No.4909253]

there are fucking hundreds of secret images in the giygas background, the "fetus" is just in one

Plus, the way that people trace the fetus is is fucking gay.

Also, that is one deformed fucking fetus. The only "evidence" is to little bumps. The theory also doesnt make sense within the context of the universe

[Anonymous No.4909294]

>>4909253
Point out five others.

[Anonymous No.4909314]

>>4909294
okay.

[Anonymous No.4909332]

>>4909294
we have micky mouse, multiple moons, the state of texas, a snake with its mouth wide open, a bird, and a shitty meme. The outlines arnt perfectly drawn, like the fetus is.

[Anonymous No.4909340]

>>4909332
>the state of texas
....dear god it's worse than we all imagined...

[Anonymous No.4909349]

>>4909340
i also demonstrated that giygas was a trap up above

[Anonymous No.4909416]

>>4909332
>>4909340

Think 'bout a place that's hot as hell
'Bout drier than the bottom of a dried-out well
And I think ya know what Texas means to me
Ain't got no money, ain't got no jobs
The banks are all too poor to rob
And I'd like to say one thing 'fore I leave

Fuck you, Texas, and fuck your Lone Star Beer.
Fuck that fucking Alamo, and fuckin' long-horned steer.
Fuck every Dallas cowboy, that ever draw'd a breath
Fuck you, Texas, and fuck you plumb to death!

[Anonymous No.4911067]

>>4906456
>delicious homeland memes

[Anonymous No.4912031]

>>4909332
lol
based autismo bro I love you