/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4825246]

what's the most painfully boring game you've ever been meme'd into playing

[Anonymous No.4825506]

OP is a faggot.

[Anonymous No.4825509]

>>4825246
Touhou series (this is coming from someone that has shoot 'em ups as his favorite genre by far, and likes many styles, including retro bullet hells)

[Anonymous No.4825795]

I seriously don't get the hype. I spent more times watching cutscenes full of poorly written dialogue and melodrama than actually playing the game. The characters were all paper thin and unlikable, with no development. The story tried way too hard to be deep and profound, and failed miserably. It's like everything people bitch about in Final Fantasy games rolled into one.

[Anonymous No.4825836]

>>4825795
>I seriously don't get the hype. I spent more times watching cutscenes full of poorly written dialogue and melodrama than actually playing the game.
A lot of people play JRPGs just for that, the difference is that they don't mind the writing since they haven't read anything decent in their lives.
As a rule of thumb, NEVER listen to hype coming from storyfags.

[Anonymous No.4825851]

Ocarina of Time

[Anonymous No.4825865]

The Zelda oracle games. I cannot understand how games which appear to be so well made just utterly fail to hold my interest for more than a dungeon or two before I drop them again. And this is coming from a guy who's played through Link's Awakening ten times at least.

[Anonymous No.4825869]

>>4825509

Touhou is phenomenal in that it really seems like 99.9% of everybody who likes and relentlessly spams these little cherub-faced girls wearing burlap sacks don't even know about the actual games, let alone played any of them. The fanbase is literally an army of secondaries. And yeah, the games blow.

[Anonymous No.4825875]

>>4825865
I dropped those games when I saw the dancing minigame with the gorons, that shit ain’t zelda I tell ya hwat

[Anonymous No.4825878]

>>4825869
I hate waifufags
However, I've seen some folks get into arcade shooters after starting with Touhou, so that's something, even if that meant having weirdo weebs in the community.

[Anonymous No.4825883]

>>4825836
Well if you hate long cutscenes then avoid the Xenosaga and Xenoblade games, since they're a whole lot more of them same.

>>4825836
Xenoblade 1 has a legit great story though.

[Anonymous No.4825893]

>>4825883
Appreciated, but this is /vr/, man

[Anonymous No.4825895]

most wrpgs really

[Anonymous No.4825897]

>>4825246
Willow NES

[Anonymous No.4825903]

>>4825897
Try the arcade original
>>4825895
Curious, why? I can see it, just asking

[Anonymous No.4825908]

>>4825903
mostly the open world non-linear structure bores me
pool of radiance had decent battles at least

[Anonymous No.4825913]

>>4825908
Sandbox games can be boring indeed, they essentially demand that you make your own game inside the game for it to be engaging

[Anonymous No.4826364]

>>4825246
Good taste

>>4825795
Shit taste

[Anonymous No.4826370]

[Anonymous No.4826372]

>>4825246
Castlevania. The games are crap. Yet everyone hypes these to death. Its a fucking conspiracy.

[Anonymous No.4826581]

>>4825795
>Not being able to understand Xenogears

It's basically just a giant commentary on rapid technological development and weaponry when our own base, human instincts haven't evolved along with it. The game employs the use of the Butterfly Effect both on a personal-micro and large-scale-macro level in order to achieve its desired effect on the sheer pointlessness and dangers of war and the importance of at least *attempted* coexistence.

It's also just one massive deconstruction on the notion of worship in and of itself, it BTFOs even the hardcore atheists on their stubborn insistence of clinging to science as a "God."

I'm sorry you were too much of a faggot to get all this.

[Anonymous No.4826904]

>>4825246
The one you posted is up there. For me though it's Suikoden 2. Honorable mentions go to Breath of Fire 2, Xenogears and FF9.
>>4825869
Waifus are the kiss of death for video game genres. Once they take over you know that genre is creatively dead. It happened to Visual Novels, JRPG's and of course Shmups.
>>4825883
>Xenoblade 1 has a legit great story though.
Its story is a god damned clusterfuck, not as bad as Xenogears but it's a fucking mess.
>>4826581
The story is fine it's just told incompetently. The script is completely unfinished. The plot doesn't even start until disc 2 and by then they had run out of money and had to throw the unfinished script on screen as a series of storyboards.
Important plot points are left out and only available in external sources.

[Anonymous No.4826907]

Morrowind. I liked what came before and after it, though.

[Anonymous No.4826952]

>>4826904
Absolute shit fucking taste, right here. Don't bother replying to me.

[Anonymous No.4827052]

In terms of gameplay and storytelling, everything Trigger did right Cross does wrong.

[Anonymous No.4827081]

Most jrpgs. Its like....theyre all the same thing.

[Anonymous No.4827085]

>>4826370
Story sucked but i liked the combat... just played a few months ago.

Not many games actually make feel like im having fun but this is one of the few.

[Anonymous No.4827139]

>>4825246
Someone who thinks this game is absolute trash too? I don't know why I forced myself to finish it. Put me off of JRPGs for a good couple years.

[Anonymous No.4827153]

>>4825246
A lot of action games from the ps1 generation that were trying to go for a more adventure/rpg approach like Mega Man Legends.
>>4827081
Also this, most jrpgs and rpgs just bore me to tears gameplay wise.

[Anonymous No.4827396]

I don't think I've ever seen a game get so much slack on its programming and hardware limitations from both fans and the gaming press. Janky controls? "IT ADDS TO THE HORROR!" Fog and darkness used constantly to obscure very short draw distances? "IT ADDS TO THE HORROR!" Grainy, gritty polygons with a murky, dull color palette? "IT ADDS TO THE HORROR!" The RE games are even worse with their godawful camera angles and Z-Grade story, dialogue and voice acting. Honestly the only horror games I could stand playing are the System Shock games, everything else I've played so far either bores or annoys the fuck out of me.

[Anonymous No.4827425]

>>4827396
>System Shock
>horror
Its a mediocre shooter at best, with clunky as fuck controls. I don't know why people praise it. The atmosphere is alright, considering when it was released, but even the story is almost non-existent with awful voice tapes.

[Anonymous No.4827428]

>>4827425
Still better than any Resident Evil (except 4) or Silent Hill.

[Anonymous No.4827449]

I'm honestly struggling to come up with anything. Everytime I think of something it's from the 6th gen. I actually enjoy most vr games although I haven't played a lot of the JRPGs in this thread. I'll get around to it soon but I'm more interested in the Genesis games I've missed out on.

Shenmue probably comes the closest although I played it back when it came out. I thought it was supposed to be the Dreamcast's answer to FF7 and Ocarina of Time. Instead it you just look around for sailors and listen to some of the worst voice acting I think I've ever heard. It's a shame because it may have been a really great game if you got to fight a lot more in it.

[Anonymous No.4827562]

Zelda, any really. Got the farthest in a Stink to the past, I guess.

[Anonymous No.4827564]

>>4827396
>Fog and darkness used
yeah, because horror doesn't work in well-lit areas, the fact that fog and darkness obscures short draw distances is more of a happy accident
>murky, dull color palette?
sorry a horror game doesn't look like SM64 lmao

[Anonymous No.4827843]

>>4825246

Lufia 1 is the most generic jrpg I can think of, at least DQ has good music and monster design for it, but this one is just dull.

[Anonymous No.4828197]

>>4825246
How that game gained such a rabid cult fanbase in the early-mid 2000s is beyond me. The only noteworthy thing about it when it came out was all the voice acting in its cutscenes and just overall quality of them compared to its contemporaries.

[Anonymous No.4828234]

Just takes so fucking long to move everyone, also not a fan of the colour pallet. Love nu-xcom though

[Anonymous No.4828340]

>>4827562
You didn't like A Link to the Past? That's actually surprising because it has some of the best puzzle solving I can recall among both Zelda games and SNES games.

[Anonymous No.4828362]

>>4825509
Touhou at this point is just a gateway shmup, some gimmicks are annoying but it never comes across as a "hardcore" game. I think ZUN would rather have the American audience play the games that inspired Touhou but for a doujin game made by one guy some of the entries are pretty alright and not misleading of the genre for people who discover the games through the memes.

[Anonymous No.4828363]

>>4828362
Yes, as I said here >>4825878

[Anonymous No.4828387]

>>4825865
>>4825851
honestly all Zelda games besides the first one and LTTP for me.
The first one is perfect, it's a fucking dungeon adventure game. No drama, no bullshit.
LTTP was the perfect amount of story and side quest.
Every other Zelda game i have mixed feelings about except for Link's Awakening which was the perfect put down and pick up game.

[Anonymous No.4828390]

>>4828387
I really want to like zelda 2 but it just doesn't feel fun, loved the idea of it though.

[Anonymous No.4828391]

For me it's Pokemon, I know I'm not the audience but neither is a lot of people who actually like them, what is there to like or dislike about it? what is there to comment about the most popular rpg series of all time? I have nothing. I think I know something I dislike about it, I would rather have my sequels be sequels and not expansion packs.

>>4826372
They have neat production.

>>4827562
Was your first Zelda a NES one? Those are the worst ones, I don't see how could you get bored by something like Majora's Mask or Link's Awakening.

[Anonymous No.4828410]

>>4828390
Same, great ideas, i am not against it at all.
I just couldn't get involved in it.

I'd have to say the most overrated one is for sure Ocarina. Played it on release. It wasn't a horrible game, but that in itself is the issue. Because it wasn't as amazing as everyone kept telling me it was.
I was often bored, every dungeon felt the same.

Oh also
Most boring game i've ever played...
not /vr/ related, but Fallout4. Every decision I made felt like it had no impact. When playing a game where choices drive every future possible choice this is a huge issue and instantly took me out of it.
If I can't self insert in a RPG I can't enjoy it.
So that takes most games out for me.
JRPGs are also bad for me because of this.

[Anonymous No.4828524]

[Anonymous No.4828532]

>>4828524
The first game is trash. The second one is OK, has some rough stuff but a big step up. The series definitely got better right after, yes.

[Anonymous No.4828787]

>>4825246
Drakengard

[Anonymous No.4829103]

>>4825851
this but unironically. Zelda blows

[Anonymous No.4829116]

>>4825506
>OP is a faggot.
I 2nd this motion. Legend of Dragoon was more fun than FF tactics. Not many games came in a 5 disk set like this one.

[Anonymous No.4829125]

>>4828391
Pokemon is for little kids. I played Blue when I was like 4 or 5 years old and that shit was amazing.

[Anonymous No.4829173]

Witcher 3, honestly.
I finally bit the bullet and started playing it, even though before it didn't really interest me, but I got into classless RPGs again, so whatever.
Anyway, it's really slow paced, and has a lot of technical problems, mostly due to UI decisions and lacking a lot of QoL knick-knacks.
tl;dr— it's fucking clunky and cluttered.

[Anonymous No.4829179]

>>4829173
I know it's new, but honestly can't think of a retro game I got convinced to play.
Mmm, maybe Soul Reaver? It set out to "improve" the Zelda formula, but I never thought it really did, and it introduced a whole host of its own issues that never got ironed out as the series went on. But I played it close to release so I guess it doesn't really count.

[Anonymous No.4829231]

>>4825246
Very good choice.

[Anonymous No.4829236]

I was actually playing the 3DS remake that supposedly cuts out the most egregious tedium of the intro and other parts of the game and I was stil bored to tears.[/spoiler[

[Anonymous No.4829240]

I was actually playing the 3DS remake that supposedly cuts out the most egregious tedium of the intro and other parts of the game and I was still bored to tears.

[Anonymous No.4829436]

>>4827396
I don't think I've ever seen anyone claim the first Silent Hill is perfect though. People mention flaws when they recommend it and will quickly admit they exist, unlike some other games and series.

[Anonymous No.4829437]

Earthbound

[Anonymous No.4829445]

Final Fantasy 1. What an unfun, broken game. And this is coming from someone who played the shit out of Hillsfar on a 386 as a kid.

[Anonymous No.4829629]

Jet Set Radio and Skies of Arcadia.

[Anonymous No.4829656]

>>4829436
Theres multitudes of videos praising it.

I tried playing it on my phone at work and dear god the controls give me a headache. Might be better with an actual controller.

[Anonymous No.4829657]

>>4829240
Believe me it did nothing to fix that tedium. It takes several hours to do what could've been summed up in 20 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=789ihZYZLBk

This guy knows exactly what to do in the intro and it still takes an hour and a half to reach the first goddamn fight. The pacing is absolutely disgusting, I could complete Devil May Cry on the highest setting in that time.

[Anonymous No.4829661]

>>4827562
>>4827562
Based anon. Zelda is a pile of garbage (every iteration) dont know why it gets so much praise. In fact the majority of Nintendo games are shit

[Anonymous No.4829667]

>>4829173
You forgot to add
>annoying music
>lack of variety of enemies. (How many times do i have to kill a drowner)
>shit story
>annoying parts where you play the flashbacks that could of been shortened and been a cutscene.
>shitty voiceacting
>linear
And yea controlling Geralt is like controlling a wet noodle.

[Anonymous No.4829671]

>>4829240
I'm sorry you don't like a comfy game, anon. Perhaps Call of Duty would be more to your liking.

[Anonymous No.4829676]

>>4827396
imagine being this underage

[Anonymous No.4829678]

>>4829671
What the fuck is this logic

[Anonymous No.4829710]

>>4828787
>he got off Mr Taro's Wild Ride
tell me how

[Anonymous No.4829854]

>>4829657
>This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc.. It is not available in your country.
awww

[Anonymous No.4830541]

>>4825246
>>4825795
These two and add Legend of Legaia to it. The holy trinity of average PS RPGs that nobody cared about at the time and are held up as amazing "hidden gems" today.

[Anonymous No.4831491]

>>4829854
hooktube

[Anonymous No.4831823]

>>4830541
Instead Xenogears I would say FF9.

[Anonymous No.4832337]

>>4825246
Not memed into playing it, but by and far the worst piece of shit rpg I've ever played in my life. It took three months to get through because of how boring it was.

[Anonymous No.4832345]

>>4825246

[Anonymous No.4832353]

>>4825246
both these games were utter gash, i was meme'd into playing them by the Nintendo magazine i used to buy which gave them 95% scores.
>backtracking
>save stations
>the disc used to crash a lot
>can't strafe
>controls were clunky
>scanning things gets very boring very quickly
>light/dark world thing is shit and overdone
>overrated
>unclear what the objective is for large portions of the game
>oh.. a phazon spider... oh... a phazon space pirate... oh whats next a phazon metroid? jeez who saw that coming... jeez... what a great game

[Anonymous No.4832358]

>>4832345
>>4832353
If you don't like backtracking why did you play games from a genre that's based around backtracking? Did you expect true FPS games?
Also, not /vr/, check the sticky

[Anonymous No.4832365]

>>4832358
i hadn't ever played Metroid, i was too young to have a SNES. I got the Nintendo magazine and they went on about how great Metroid Prime will be, how great Super Metroid was, etc so i thought "yeah this will be good, resurrecting a series, etc etc etc"
And the whole backtracking thing wasn't really mentioned in any review that I read. Also, backtracking wasn't my only criticism of the game

[Anonymous No.4832369]

>>4832365
Yeah, your knowledge of the games wasn't very high when you tried them, so it's understandable.
Yes, the games are clunky as fuck. The same goes for Super Metroid. The less clunky ones are the GBA games.

[Anonymous No.4832403]

>>4832369
the biggest problem was the crashing. Having to wait 20 mins for a save station then the game crash.. but i persevered because of how amazing everyone seemed to think the game was. I got MP 2 as a gift, and i completed it, I don't even know why.
I honestly think metroid is the most overrated game that I can think of.

[Anonymous No.4832408]

>>4832369
the controls are mega-clunky too, strafing around a stationary enemy was Ok-ish with the B button, but once you fight Space pirates and stuff that moves around, you have to keep locking-on again and ... yeah, they really shouldve thought that out better....
the "Multiplayer" on MP 2 was just shit as well... the lock-on just ruins it. at the time there was a build up "MP2 will make Halo 2 look pedestrian!" haha, look how that turned out. Halo 2 was an infinitely better game.

[Anonymous No.4832415]

>>4832403
That's not an issue with the game itself, though. A bad console or disc

[Anonymous No.4832419]

>>4832415
Given the rest of the game is so poor it didn't help/

[Anonymous No.4832429]

>>4826370
Same here. The game looked good and had a good history but I could not make it past the combat system.
Might be just me...I went back to playing Fallout 1.

[Anonymous No.4832441]

>>4825246
back to the future NES

[Anonymous No.4832670]

>>4831823
I own FF9, never finished, but I kind of understand your point. 10 in my opinion is really well designed, 8 for all it's flak has some fun features, not sure how 9 fits into the development of the series. Maybe I should finish it before judging but it seems like it could have been released just after FF6 (barring and I would have been none the wiser.

[Anonymous No.4832682]

Glad none of you niggers said DUAL ORB 2. That game's amazing

[Anonymous No.4832719]

>>4825246
It would probably have to be DUAL ORB 2

[Anonymous No.4832726]

>>4832682
>>4832719
This board is great.

[Anonymous No.4833798]

>>4832670
>10 in my opinion is really well designed

Well besides the fact that it was a straight line from beginning to end with no overworld.

[Anonymous No.4833832]

>>4826581
Redpill me on this Xenofags and tell me how true this plot synopsis of the game is?

[Anonymous No.4835020]

>>4831823
I'm the person you're replying to and actually I agree, FF IX is such a mediocre slog

[Anonymous No.4835023]

>>4832670
10 is the shittiest piece of shit to ever grace a console and you should be ashamed of your opinion. Your praise for it is the reason why RPGs went from golden age to garbage in less than 5 years.

[Anonymous No.4835034]

daggerfall, i've already logged over 700 hours but haven't finished the game and haven't had fun

[Anonymous No.4835037]

>>4829671
>Don't like a certain game
>Lol go back to Call of Duty, Halo, League, DOTA, Fortnite, ect.
Piss off with your knee jerk reactions. Guy is even on /vr/ as well so there is an obvious interest in older games. He can't help that the Dragon Quest series is painfully dull.

[Anonymous No.4835049]

>>4835034
Good man. I hope you're walking from town to town too.

[Anonymous No.4835051]

>>4825509
2hu takes decent music & a cutesy story & shoves terrible art, bland, repetitive backgrounds and usage of the same enemies repeatedly throughout each game. Peeps don't realize that there's a reason the 2hus that get memed en-masse come from the 6th one which was over 10 years ago. That's when it hit its peak and was still terribly designed.

Almost every fan game is higher quality than the main series.

[Anonymous No.4835053]

>>4835049
If there's a way I can fly or something I didn't know.

[Anonymous No.4835089]

>>4829116
It's a 4 disk set

[Anonymous No.4835103]

>>4829656
>playing it on my phone at work

I can't tell if this is bait. In the case that it isn't--how can you expect to make any sort of judgment on a horror game with already clunky controls which should be played in a dark room on an actual screen at night when you're playing it on your phone at work?

[Anonymous No.4835117]

>>4832719
nigga it has monster trucks and sniper rifles

[Anonymous No.4835250]

>>4835051
>decent music
Disagree here (hate how it sounds), but music taste is quite subjective
>terrible art
Apparently good enough to spawn a retarded fanbase. Anime girls, not even once.

[Anonymous No.4835513]

>>4825246
I can't say i have ever been meme'd into trying some shitty /vr/ game. I hate platformers and jrpgs and nintendo games any nothing anyone would say would convince me otherwise. The only meme ive fallen for was mount and blade and i wish i could refund it now even if it cost like 5 euro. It wasn't fun with friends and it wasnt fun with mods. LoTR Conquest was much more fun in multiplayer. Too bad it was fleshed out very well and it was forgotten weeks after it came out.
>>4829661
based frogposter
>>4835053
theres fucking fast travel and i found that out when i was 12. What is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.4835536]

>>4827396
The horror...the horror

[Anonymous No.4835554]

>>4825509
Everyone knows the only good thing about 2hou is the music and the waifus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn5l02pFu0k

[Anonymous No.4835568]

>>4829173
I agree, but not retro.

[Anonymous No.4835603]

>>4835554

The waifus are just a simple weeb magnet
The gameplay and the music is niiiicee

>>4825246
Rollercoaster Tycoon

[Anonymous No.4835691]

>>4835603

[Anonymous No.4836119]

>>4825795
The people who praise XG for it's story/writing/themes stem from weebs who only have shittier JRPGs to compare to.

[Anonymous No.4836126]

>>4836119
Or anime