OVER THE HILL AND FAR AWAY

[Anonymous No.4731454]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>4727306

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1503/77/1503778360511.png
Doom Downloads:
+ IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
+ PortaDOOM: https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1514/09/1514094816594.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Marathon: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1523/93/1523936193601.png
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q

Doom RPG series
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

BUILD ENGINE LAUNCHERS
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

[Anonymous No.4731456]

=== NEWS ===

[04-23] Mr. Friendly alpha release, turns Doom into "an Animal Crossing-like nonviolent social space"
https://jp.itch.io/mr-friendly

[04-22] Anon mod release: CLANG.wad, replaces every sound with CLANG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x4k2bxhorxb4vyo/CLANG.wad?dl=1

[04-22] Anon map release: roomv4.wad
http://www.mediafire.com/file/f3xu3bifrox8mb2/roomv4.zip (original)
https://my.mixtape.moe/ylyuxt.wad (update)
https://my.mixtape.moe/aaczhx.wad (another update)

[04-22] Anon map release: no title given, forest/cave map
https://my.mixtape.moe/abvwgx.wad

[04-21] Touhou Doom Episode 3.5 Re-Release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=57817

[04-21] Rumors of a new Doom movie
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/100434-another-doom-movie-being-made/

[04-19] Anon's hack of Terminus's Doombike mod
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4718315/#4722307
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=00088901197544308135

[04-19] Doom 2016 OST coming to vinyl
https://twitter.com/DOOM/status/986590166637842432

[04-17] Anon release: Firstmap.wad
http://www.mediafire.com/file/kiu1aq9kqr81zas/Firstmap.wad

[04-17] Trailblazer update 1.4c released, mostly bug fixes
https://pillowblaster.tumblr.com/post/172994870631/trailblazer-14c-update

[04-16] La Tailor Girl 1.52 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1050351#p1050351

[04-16] Booster public test build #2
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1G-Xg0dc8OOwkhq1AHKs2w7wpz-IRB3hD

[04-15] Patch to remove demon runes from D4T
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1050273#p1050273

[04-15] Conversion of Quake Ikwhite textures to Doom format
https://my.mixtape.moe/etefke.wad

[04-13] Anon texture release: Source engine-style devtextures
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=93737565247231239878

[04-11] Heretical Doom updated to v1.2
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=56762

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To submit news, please reply to this post.

[Anonymous No.4731470]

is golden souls 2 out now

[Anonymous No.4731480]

Ey

[Anonymous No.4731483]

>>4731480
>that expression
Jesus, too lewd

[Anonymous No.4731508]

xth for ur a faget

[Anonymous No.4731510]

>>4731508

[Anonymous No.4731512]

>>4731508
But why

[Anonymous No.4731514]

[Anonymous No.4731543]

>>4731508
u r the demons

[Anonymous No.4731546]

>>4731543

[Anonymous No.4731563]

Honestly, if slaughter is done right it can be pretty rewarding and fun. I just think of it as bullet hell, like touhou. It may looks daunting and annoying. But if it's done well like going down then it's extremely rewarding. It has to go beyond just circle strafe rocket launcher. The mapper has to add little gimmicks and objectives for you to do while dodging projectiles.

So does anyone of any instances of a good slaughtermap?

[Anonymous No.4731564]

>>4731563
So can anyone think of any instances**

Dear god, I just woke up

[Anonymous No.4731565]

>>4731563
/thread

[Anonymous No.4731581]

>>4731563
A good slaughtermap would need something to expedite the monster killing process because there's going to be so many fucking dudes. There's no weapon in the unmodded game powerful enough to do that, so infighting is logically the only weapon with the powerscale to do that. Mixing monster types enough that causing big infights is possible, and also having enough space to bob and weave to aggro more parts of the map without having to kill everyone in the previous part first. Needless to say slaughtershit does neither.

[Anonymous No.4731582]

Please tell me i'm not alone. I have no idea why doomseeker people love Complex doom so much. It's literally everything that doom isn't. Hiding, reloading, more hiding, Oh did I mention hiding?

[Anonymous No.4731584]

>>4731581
Off the top of my head: You can add switches that crush enemies , you can add switches that reveal barrels. You can add a switch that gives you a cyber demon perfectly placed for infighting. There's lots you can do

[Anonymous No.4731590]

>>4731582
Doomseeker is bundled with Zandronum, which has its own community. They highly enjoy Complex+LCA, MM8BDM, Comhotel, and Brutal offshoots. Anything else is sparsely populated.

[Anonymous No.4731601]

>>4731582
Mines are one of the only reasons i even care for the mod and you can't use them if you're holding a bigger weapon

[Anonymous No.4731602]

>>4731590
Yeah i found that out. Honestly I had some fun with complex multiplayer. So I decided it'd be cool to try it single player and learn how to deal with each enemy a little better. And it was just fucking boring.

Hide, shoot, hide, shoot, hide, shoot.

[Anonymous No.4731603]

>>4731602
>>4731601
>>4731590
oh and some of the projectiles are too fast to even dodge half the time. So you can't just run out into a group of enemies sprinting around them blowing their heads off.

[Anonymous No.4731605]

>>4731603
Were you just playing the base mod or did you load all the add-ons?

[Anonymous No.4731609]

>>4731605
all the addons. Which made it a bit better, but again changed the gameplay to the extreme. I like going down where you get trapped in a room with a bunch of enemies and have to keep moving. I don't like hunkering down behind a wall

[Anonymous No.4731612]

>>4731584
I tend to not press random switches during encounters because there's a high chance that it's meant to be pressed at the end/bring more monsters in

[Anonymous No.4731614]

>>4731602
The difficulty is obviously meant for multiplayer

[Anonymous No.4731615]

>>4731609
If you were playing it with LCA, that's probably why. The base mod is a decent randomizer, LCA turns it into ridiculous gold and blue shit everywhere with bloated mp3 music.

[Anonymous No.4731617]

>>4731615
hows hard doom? Do you think that'd be a bit better?

[Anonymous No.4731629]

>>4731617
Hard doom is simply a monster replacer which makes the enemies... harder. It can be run with weaponsets if you want, but playing vanilla brings some challenges

[Anonymous No.4731630]

>>4731629
hmm guess i'll try and find some weapon sets that would pair with hard doom nicely.

[Anonymous No.4731634]

>>4731198
Just checked out the Babel homepage and it sounds like an interesting mod. When will you be uploading the latest?

[Anonymous No.4731638]

>>4731629
Not the same anon that was initially asking about Hard Doom, but I have to ask, how does one make sure the weapon set works with Hard Doom?

I tried to do so just now (using ZDL to assist with load order) and I just couldn't figure it out, because I tried with High Noon Drifter and it still was showing the vanilla hud and spawning a chainsaw instead of the boomerang.

[Anonymous No.4731640]

Am I the only one who thinks that the Rocket Launcher in Quake doesn't make the Grenade Launcher useless?

[Anonymous No.4731641]

>>4731640
Why would it?
The GL can be used in specific situations tied to the level geometry

[Anonymous No.4731642]

>>4731640
Grenades are handy for enemies on ledges above you that are much harder to hit with straight-shooting rockets.
This should apply to most games with those two weapons.

[Anonymous No.4731643]

>>4731640
the GL and RL work really well together, they make a fine pair

[Anonymous No.4731645]

>>4731640
Yeah, the grenade launcher is still good for when you need to get an enemy around the corner.

[Anonymous No.4731653]

>>4731641
I've heard some people saying that RL is more precise and allows rocket jumping, therefore it makes the other useless according to them.
I think they just can't aim.

[Anonymous No.4731661]

>>4731638
What order did you put them in?

[Anonymous No.4731670]

PS1 Doom > Doom 64

[Anonymous No.4731671]

>>4731661
I tried it both ways honestly since my last post.

One way I got the vanilla hud but was still using the HND weapons until I saw the chainsaw hadn't been replaced by the boomerange.

And the other way, well I got HND's hud, but the chainsaw was still there. I'm using the latest versions of both mods as well.

[Anonymous No.4731682]

>>4731671
I looked in SLADE, I forgot that Hard Doom has its own weapons and HUD. Try commenting the weapons out in DECORATE, and try commenting out the SBARINFO, see if it works.

[Anonymous No.4731686]

>>4731682
Alrighty, I'll keep that in mind. Thank you!

[Anonymous No.4731702]

Is there a version of fragtrak without the hud?

[Anonymous No.4731704]

>>4731581
>Slaughtershit
Stop playing doom, Mark.

[Anonymous No.4731709]

[Anonymous No.4731730]

>>4731709
Risen3D?

[Anonymous No.4731739]

>>4731730
Think so. Or maybe Doomsday.

God, people thought this shit looked good, surely the HD Texture Pack of its day.

[Anonymous No.4731748]

>>4731709
>The Virgin Revenant
>The Chad Revanant

[Anonymous No.4731753]

>>4730818
I know, I saw the link in the OP. That's why I was thanking you guys.

[Anonymous No.4731754]

>>4731748
Quake 3 skins are so much better than Risen3d and Doomsday.They've actually put effort in these.

[Anonymous No.4731758]

>>4731753
I had nothing to do with it but I'll happily take the credit

[Anonymous No.4731764]

Continuing the discussion in the previous thread I wonder if a Shambler model for Q3 would work. It has a more humanoid appearance, scaling down I don't think it would be an issue.

[Anonymous No.4731773]

>>4731764
It's still pretty big, and the three fingered, meaty hands leave a lot to be desired for the weapons. I think the knights and the zombie would work better.

[Anonymous No.4731796]

>>4731773
I've seen one porting the Q4 gladiator and was huge. I don't think the hands might that much of a issue if you make a pose strictly for the character.

[Anonymous No.4731804]

>>4731796
Oh right, I forgot about that. I guess the Shambler could work at full size, if the user was fine with sticking out from anywhere.

[Anonymous No.4731817]

>>4731804
I think scaled down as they did with Cyberdemon model or slightly taller than Tank Jr would be better.
I think an Ogre would be good too.

[Anonymous No.4731823]

>>4731817
I could probably make an attempt, if I knew how.

[Anonymous No.4731840]

>>4731764
>always 90 fov
>only 150 health and 50 armor
I know this is fake but that'd be dumb lmao

[Anonymous No.4731863]

Is there a way to make items in doom unobtainable when they're behind a small slot wall, similar to Duke3d's? When I attempt to do webm related for doom, my character picks the item up before opening the door slot.

[Anonymous No.4731864]

So I took a shot at CLANG.wad. Best Berserk themed Doom wad.

[Anonymous No.4731869]

>>4731863
You can customize the item in Decorate to only finish the pickup state when it can see the picker-upper maybe?

[Anonymous No.4731882]

>>4731869
Thanks. Though I admit I haven't done anything with decorate in a long time, and was hoping for an easier solution within gzdoombuilder.

[Anonymous No.4731884]

>>4731864
I wish there was an actual Berserk mod for Doom. Swinging the Dragonslayer, using the arm cannon. It would be amazing.
I mean we have OPM, Dragon Ball, 2 Jojo Mods and yet no Berserk.

[Anonymous No.4731885]

>>4731884
I'd definitely play a Berserk Doom wad.

[Anonymous No.4731887]

>>4731864
>So I took a shot at CLANG.wad
i must admit, being from /m/ i'm rather disappointed it has nothing to do with robot girls

[Anonymous No.4731893]

>>4731840
I think a Shambler wouldn't be out of place in QC. Imagine a power up like Doom 4 demon runes multiplayer.
Slow but can one shot almost everyone or drain 90% of your health

[Anonymous No.4731905]

>>4731893

Imagine a shambler trying to use a gun.
>HOW DO I AIM?
>BEEFY SAUSAGE FINGERS NOT FIT TRIGGER
>WHY CAN'T I JUST USE LIGHTNING
>THIS IS DUMB

[Anonymous No.4731907]

>>4731893
>the shambler amble

[Anonymous No.4731909]

>>4731907
it looks like it has a slight limp

[Anonymous No.4731913]

>>4731909
Maybe he stretched his calf chasing down his last dinner

[Anonymous No.4731921]

>>4731758
No problem. Just set up Quakespasm and ECWolf. Loving the ability to play these games in 1080p. Makes me feel like it's the 90s again. Only thing I wish ECWolf supported was weapon switching with the mouse wheel, but it's no biggie.

[Anonymous No.4731925]

>>4731905
>THIS IS GARBAGE
>*violently throws weapon*
>*accidentally hits a character and kills it*
>YOU' VE TAKEN THE LEAD.

[Anonymous No.4731937]

>>4731454
Virgin FPS heavy vs chadgunner

[Babel Dev !OWvSkSdXw6 No.4731952]

Speaking of hitscan vs projectile from last thread
>https://babel-mod.neocities.org/
Mostly bugfixes but they're pretty important. I also did a full 30 map Oblige run to see how well the mod plays under some of the worst gameplay conditions I can imagine and it made me want to fucking kill myself but it was not as bad as I thought, definitely pretty well balanced. Highlights:
- BFG nerfed but still ridiculously powerful
- PSMG works on maps with Voodoo dolls (previously had infinite ammo)
- Spectre ghosts are now silent to help differentiate them
Still looking to do a bit of a sound rework but sound is definitely one of my weaker points. I may also change the SMG sprite, but I dunno.

[Anonymous No.4731957]

Someone needs to make an infograph for the Carnivores series of games. They're pretty great.

[Anonymous No.4731962]

>>4731952
Can I just say how much I appreciate the work you've put into Babel? Once you tweaked the pinkies and adding the PSMG I really do enjoy this mod. Your blood system is really fucking neato too, and I like your flavor text for all of the weapons.

[Anonymous No.4731968]

>>4731962
Thanks bro. I'm really trying to polish it as much as physically possible. The feedback I've gotten, while a bit sparse, has also been great. Even the stuff that I didn't act on at least made me look back and re-assess my design decisions. The chainsaw thing in particular was a really good idea that I probably wouldn't have otherwise thought of, but works insanely well for reducing annoyance.

[Anonymous No.4731969]

>>4731968
What was the chainsaw thing? Not stunlocking pinkies properly?

[Anonymous No.4731972]

>>4731969
More than that, it now has a special trait where the pinkie/spectre stun has a far lower chance to trigger rage/teleportation, meaning they can't escape the melee as easily in addition to being stunned more often.

[Anonymous No.4731974]

>>4731972
Eyyy that was me awhile back. Yes, chainsaws work way better on those guys now.
I really want to poke at your blood system and use it for my own purposes, though I'm not sure if it's friendly with zandy.

[Anonymous No.4731979]

>>4731974
To be fair I cannibalized a huge part of the code from https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=52976 because that blood looks cool as fuck. You could probably port it to Zandybam without too much effort. I can look into it real fast.

[Anonymous No.4731982]

>>4731974
https://my.mixtape.moe/cayoiq.pk3
Here, works in latest Zandronum. May require slight sprite tweaking for proper color, as mine did.

[Anonymous No.4731985]

>>4731982
well hot damn. Thanks dude, I'll be sure to add you and Zrrion to the credits.
I've been looking for some stylish, simple blood for Combined_Arms that wasn't nashgore as that's been done a lot, and this is a fuckin winner.

It was that or the old Burl_Tumd blood, which, while hilarious, was framerate destroying at times.

[Anonymous No.4731986]

>>4731640
GL fires faster, too.

[Anonymous No.4731994]

>>4731985
Thanks Kegan. For the record you or anyone else is free to use whatever from Babel as well. It's not fully documented *yet* but I don't believe in restricting use of mods I make. That also goes for the horribly janky systems in older versions that used Decorate, if you can find a pk3 of them.

[Anonymous No.4731996]

>>4731986
It has a great noise when firing, too.
>*TWHEMP*

[Anonymous No.4731998]

>>4731994
I think all I wanna borrow is the pleasing blood trails, everything else is very much Babel's thing. Though admittedly I kinda wanna yank those pleasing projectile and trails for like, the bullet weapons and the PSMG, they look nice.

[Anonymous No.4732006]

>>4731998
Well those are very very janky and somewhat rely on the player's perspective to not show a problem that I haven't gotten around to fixing yet at least for the player's tracers. I'll get to it eventually. but probably ZS-only. I don't know if you can get a proper lerp working in only Decorate and ZS. Also for the record here's the original 64_Blood and my modded version in case you wanted to know how any of Zrrion's effects worked. They're pretty different actually, now that I look at them.
http://www.hatebin.com/agtuzpcfww

[Anonymous No.4732009]

>>4731996
>*PLONG PLONG PLONG PLONG*

[Anonymous No.4732015]

>>4732006
>ZS
ACS*

[Anonymous No.4732021]

Does anyone have either of the following as PDFs?
>The Official Doom Survivor's Strategies & Secrets
>DOOM Battlebook: Revised and Expanded Edition (Secrets of the Games Series)

[Anonymous No.4732026]

>>4732009
>*KERPOOOW!*

[Anonymous No.4732029]

>author uses abandoned map projects as secret levels

[Anonymous No.4732050]

Is Brutal Doom good? I see it getting praised all over the internet, but hated here. Why is that?

Honest question.

[Anonymous No.4732053]

>>4732050
no.

next question.

[Anonymous No.4732056]

>>4732050
"All over the internet" usually just means games journalists and people who have have a passive interest in doom mods so they barely, BARELY scratch the surface.
Some hate it here, others just dislike it because it borks balance in dumb ways, has bad sound design, feature bloat, and it's poorly coded.

If you're just doing this for chuckles I will find you.

[Anonymous No.4732059]

>>4732050
Smooth Doom is better.

[Anonymous No.4732061]

>>4732050
Try it for yourself, bud. That's the only correct answer.

[Anonymous No.4732063]

>>4732053
>>4732059
Okay.
>>4732056
Thanks for explaining anon. Wasn't baiting, just curious.

[Anonymous No.4732083]

>>4732021
Sorry anon. Wish I could help.

[Anonymous No.4732104]

Is Final Doomer worth checking out? If yes which class is the best?

[Anonymous No.4732106]

>>4732104
Yes
BTSX

[Anonymous No.4732163]

>found my original quake copy
>it still has it's original reciept
>10/21/1996 at Sam's Club
>bought a 40lb bag of Morton Salt, the game itself, cat litter, pants, 3 packs of paper cups
this is fucking surreal bros

[Anonymous No.4732164]

>>4732050
Brutal Doom is fine, but there are variants of it that polished it before it to the state it's in now. Sperglord was my favorite version, but I'm sure there are better variants out there now.

The core mod is bloated as hell now. Older versions were more focused and therefor better imo.

[Anonymous No.4732167]

>>4732163
Neat!
Now I want some salt...

[Anonymous No.4732168]

>>4732164
I genuinely feel like v24 was Brutal Doom's peak

[Anonymous No.4732170]

>>4732163
>that shopping list
What

[Anonymous No.4732176]

>>4732168
Isn't it only on like v20 or something?

[Anonymous No.4732179]

>>4732056
All mods fuck the balance up. It's why they should be made as partial/total conversions, not as shit you slap on to a mapset and be done with.

[Anonymous No.4732183]

>>4732176
I'm retarded, current version is v21
I liked v20 because v21 fucked with the blood splatters, they look too thin

[Anonymous No.4732184]

>>4732179
Some days you just don't want to give a fuck about balance, you know?

[Anonymous No.4732185]

>>4732179
Most don't take to an extreme like BD does, nor does BD do much in the way of trying to strike a balance of its own type, that headshot system really borks everything

[Anonymous No.4732212]

>>4732104
Definitely worth checking out even if just for standard Doom 2 weaponset

If best as in strongest then Ancient Aliens guy wins out pretty clean followed by Plutonia

BTSX and JPCP guys both have some very strong stuff and some kind of weak stuff, TNT guy is the weakest by far

[Anonymous No.4732216]

>>4732179
go back to doomworld

[Anonymous No.4732223]

>>4732212
>plutonia guy's revolver

[Anonymous No.4732228]

>>4732179

[Anonymous No.4732230]

When you finally finish your doom map and realize it's fun

Been working on this level of my wad for a while now and it's good that it plays well, specially with gmota which I had in mind while playing it. It just feels kinda short

[Anonymous No.4732234]

>>4732230
>It just feels kinda short
Perfect match for the main character

[Anonymous No.4732240]

>>4732234
c o m p a c t

[Anonymous No.4732247]

>>4732212
I'd say JPCPguy is pretty up there for someone who only has one hitscan weapon, only held back by a small nailgun capacity.

[Anonymous No.4732263]

Do you like the firemace, /doom/?

[Anonymous No.4732268]

>>4732263
I have a soft spot for the popcorn gun.

[Anonymous No.4732273]

>>4732263
It's pretty good, but it isn't the shotgun-tier weapon that Terminus thought it was for some fucking reason. Jesus Christ, all he had to do was play Heretic for five minutes to learn that the ethereal crossbow is the shotgun equivalent.

[Anonymous No.4732274]

>>4732247
He has a top tier BFG and a solid plasma rifle, but the rockets leave a little something to be desired for bigger enemies(Good on weaker ones though) and the single shotgun is pretty ass

Him and BTSX Guy are strong but still a bit behind Plutonia and AA

Only bad character is TNTguy

[Anonymous No.4732290]

>>4732274
TNTguy sucks? Why?

[Anonymous No.4732306]

>>4732273
you would rather have the firemace in the ssg tier?

frankly, that's an even bigger bad idea

[Anonymous No.4732309]

>>4731905
>>4731925

[Anonymous No.4732313]

>>4732274
Rockets with no self-damage is still a big deal, even if they're just blinding balls of light instead. I might agree with the shotgun if only because the katana is good when applicable, though it's still pretty consistent for what it is.

BTSXguy I feel is pretty average for the mod's standards. The powerup ball is a bit finicky depending on what kind of map you're on and he has his SSG equivalent either way too short or somewhat inconsistent to be useful over the stock one, but it does hit some sweetspots like 2HKO'ing an Archvile and that's incredibly useful if you can apply it. More often than not I found myself using the rocket launcher more often since it's consistent and safe.

Last time I used Plutguy, the BFG wasn't bad against regular enemies but it sucked at taking down boss monsters, everything else was good but that detail stuck out. I think that puts AAguy on top, whose entire kit is honestly just fantastic.

>>4732290
I think TNTguy's biggest problem by far is a lack of good burst damage that plenty of Doom maps might call for.

[Anonymous No.4732314]

>>4732309
This is fucking great.

[Anonymous No.4732315]

>>4732290
Relatively weak weapons and an awkward rocket launcher(Good firing rate though), BFG is kind of ass and his chaingun equivalent has very very low damage

[Anonymous No.4732318]

>>4732309
EXCELLENT

[Anonymous No.4732323]

>>4732306
Firemace is for the BFG slot.

[Anonymous No.4732325]

>>4732323

[Anonymous No.4732326]

>>4732323
You're joking, right?

[Anonymous No.4732327]

>>4732323
Tome of Power is for the BFG slot

[Anonymous No.4732329]

>>4732323
that is exactly the problem with the firemace, it is a terrible bfg

[Anonymous No.4732330]

>>4731764
>>4731893
>no shaggy coat
Into the trash it goes.

[Anonymous No.4732332]

>>4732330
>tfw arcane dimensions uses its own shambler model now that is not only clearly not shaggy but also piss-yellow

[Anonymous No.4732334]

>>4732263

I hate it as a BFG replacement. That special spawncode where it can only appear once on a map and has a 75% chance of spawning at all is baffling as hell.
But as a little chaingun/plasma rifle alternative, it's pretty okay. I actually would've taken it as the plasma rifle replacement over the Hellstaff.

[Anonymous No.4732335]

>>4731952
>PSMG works on maps with Voodoo dolls (previously had infinite ammo)
Oh goodie, this one annoyed me a bit, but I didn't report it because I thought I was fucking it up with another mod or something.

[Anonymous No.4732338]

>>4732327
Tome of Power is an item, not a weapon. It should have replaced berserker pack or one of the other pickups which didn't have a Hexen equivalent. Yet another reason why Samsara is pretty bad for anything other than deathmatch.

[Anonymous No.4732340]

>>4732335
Nah it was a weird ZScript problem. Had to offload the regeneration code to a thinker singleton because apparently ammo pool is "global" but playerpawn scripts run per-pawn. I think there's a similar bug with the BFG that's more rare, but I'm not 100% sure. Still investigating.

[Anonymous No.4732341]

>>4732338
>thirty second item duration
>replacing the fucking berserk
nah, bro

nah

[Anonymous No.4732342]

>>4732104
The fact that the Doom gatling gun is merely a reskinned regular ol' machinegun will never stop annoying me.

[Anonymous No.4732346]

>>4732341
Have you never played Heretic? The tome is his berserker pack.

[Anonymous No.4732347]

>>4732338
Tome of Power changes the function of all the weapons and has extreme versatility
The berserk pack is more common than the BF, ergo, the Tome becomes Slot 7.

[Anonymous No.4732348]

>>4732338
The Tome of Power is what makes Corvus worth playing and changes his entire gameplay dramatically. And, in line with your previous argument, is the only thing as to what makes the Firemace actually BFG rather than a shitty pinball gun. Relegating it to an item with extremely spotty map placement is fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.4732350]

>>4732346
have YOU? the tome isn't fucking close to a berserk pack, it's a complete game-changer

[Anonymous No.4732351]

>>4732346
Berserk pack
>only affects one weapon
>used for full heal or gimmick fist-only sections of maps
>lasts entire level
>used rarely in maps

Tome of Power
>affects all weapons
>lasts 30 seconds
>placed very frequently in maps
>used for a huge damage boost

[Anonymous No.4732352]

>>4732334
>I hate it as a BFG replacement. That special spawncode where it can only appear once on a map and has a 75% chance of spawning at all is baffling as hell.
>But as a little chaingun/plasma rifle alternative, it's pretty okay. I actually would've taken it as the plasma rifle replacement over the Hellstaff.
You have to take the Tome of Power into account when judging Heretic Weapons.

[Anonymous No.4732363]

>>4732334
BFG replacement should be a Firemace bundled with a couple of ToP's.

[Anonymous No.4732375]

sarais did nothing wrong except like a game you didn't.

[Anonymous No.4732381]

r&i

[Anonymous No.4732382]

>>4732375
Hate to respond to obvious bait, but what game are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.4732398]

>>4732234
Speaking of short, Doomslayer's weapon seems to have the same reach as Blaz's. Which actually feels even shorter relatively because Doomslayer's taller than Blaz

[Anonymous No.4732417]

>>4732381
Backseat moderation is a rule violation.
So is telling others to report and ignore.
>>4732382
Evolve which was actually a good game, if you weren't a brainless normie who jumped in and automatically assumed they knew everything

[Anonymous No.4732423]

>>4732417
not retro

[Anonymous No.4732426]

http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-minecraft

has science gone too far?

[Anonymous No.4732432]

>>4731454
>tfw you finally pull off the E1M4 yellow keycard SR50 skip over the acid pit
Dear lord guys, it felt so good.

[Anonymous No.4732437]

>>4732426
Makes me think of a shitty Unity asset flip game.

[Anonymous No.4732448]

>>4732426
I kind of wonder what the point is.
Like if you're gonna make it about combat, why not just play regular Brutal Doom in a real level set?

[Anonymous No.4732459]

>>4732423
Neither is most of the thread, but let's just keep singling out one poster even though he's just replying to one dude on the subject of discussion.

[Anonymous No.4732479]

>>4732426

[Anonymous No.4732481]

>>4732432
But can you bridge to rail?

[Anonymous No.4732482]

>>4732448
Judging by the video, it's just broodal domb with an autismcraft reskin

[Anonymous No.4732483]

>>4732375
>>4732417
>>4732459
yes, yes
poor, innocent, trampled s'arais

i was happy we had a number of threads that were actually really good without you, but now that you're back i guess it's time for autism to reign again until you get chased off again

[Anonymous No.4732491]

Speaking of ToP, ToP'd Eleven Wand is underrated?

[Anonymous No.4732502]

Demons of Problematique sure looks pretty but the author has a thing for making me fight Barons of Hell with only a shotgun and chaingun and its really pissing me off.

[Anonymous No.4732509]

>>4732502
What makes me more angry is the fact that I keep seeing rockets everywhere and I know Im obviously supposed to have the rocket at this point but I cant fucking find it

[Anonymous No.4732536]

>>4732509
If you're having trouble, maybe you should clean the vaseline off your glasses

[Anonymous No.4732537]

>>4732536
Nice shitpost.

[Anonymous No.4732549]

>>4732536
>I posted the funny meme again rather than actually giving advice!

[Anonymous No.4732562]

>>4732537
>>4732549
it was really cool of you to throw a tanty over a joke instead of providing an answer

>>4732509
>>4732502
it's actually pretty common for a mapset to provide with ammo for a weapon before picking up the weapon

DoP goes the extreme, though, you don't actually get the RL until (relatively) late in
but i like how they kind of tease you with ammo
i don't like how you get thrown all sorts of barons, though

[Anonymous No.4732568]

>>4732562
So I'm actually supposed to hack my way through all these barons and spiders with just a shotgun? I dont even think they give me enough ammo for that. I dont understand why they didnt just use hell knights instead. Guess I'll try running past them.

[Anonymous No.4732576]

>decide to try out risen for the first time in years
>decide to download all the HD addons and models
>mfw everything

[Anonymous No.4732582]

>>4732576
>jDoom resource pack

[Anonymous No.4732584]

>>4732568
yeah, you're supposed to run past encounters

it's something that could be telegraphed more efficiently

[Anonymous No.4732589]

>>4732582
>finish me..

[Anonymous No.4732591]

>>4732263
I think it's a pretty pointless weapon that brings down Heretic

[Anonymous No.4732595]

>>4732491
Tomed Phoenix Rod is underrated, oftentimes people don't even know how it works.

[Anonymous No.4732597]

>>4732263
Nah. People like the tomed firemace. That shit wrecks almost everything.

[Anonymous No.4732601]

>>4732163
>pretty much the most irrelevant shopping list ever
>"oh and Quake"

[Anonymous No.4732603]

>>4732601
For you, it was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was HUHsday.

[Anonymous No.4732627]

>>4732603
what if you jumped around spastically irl? would you be able to reach supersonic speeds by building boost off of jumping?

[Anonymous No.4732628]

>>4732589
I used to think this was pretty cool.
It's still neat, but it looks like dog shit.

[Anonymous No.4732630]

>>4732627
You ever watched an acrobatics competition?

[Anonymous No.4732635]

>>4732263
I got balls of firemace

[Anonymous No.4732637]

>>4732627
Fuck imagine how epic life would be if you could bhop in person. I bet if exoskeletons were ever made for consumers, there'd be one that could give you air control and forward acceleration if possible.

[Anonymous No.4732638]

>>4732595
Especially it's ammo consumption mechanism, yes.

[Anonymous No.4732639]

>>4732630
sounds like a bunch of HUH to me.

[Anonymous No.4732661]

The sea be a harsh mistress.

[Anonymous No.4732662]

>>4732661

That's real fucking clever.

[Anonymous No.4732668]

Can someone explain to me the inexplicable silent popularity of Hideous Destructor?
Most people map around vanilla, most gameplay modders mod with the intention of producing something parallel to vanilla, most reviewers and lets-players play vanilla maps and vanilla-parallel gameplay mods, and the only time I see people talk about HD is to do a bunch of (mostly annoying) bitching because they apparently can't wrap their heads around tactical gameplay. And yet....
Somehow it's the most popular mod on ZDoom forums and has a thread 480+ pages long? The fuck? Where the fuck are these people coming from? How the hell is it so popular yet the discussion (outside that thread) is non-existent? Are these people hanging out on ARMA and Rainbow Six forums or something? This shit confuses me dudes.

[Anonymous No.4732679]

>>4732668
it scratches an unconventional itch for a lot of people and does it well and in a rewarding way
i think
personally not into it, but i can definitely see the appeal

[Anonymous No.4732683]

>>4732679
>it scratches an unconventional itch for a lot of people
I guess. Nothing in the community indicates it is popular, yet it is. Feels really left-field, y'know?

[Anonymous No.4732686]

>>4732661
The fact you only ever post this shit in software render irks me.

[Anonymous No.4732690]

>>4732686
it's meant for vanilla, i'm not fazed by it in the slightest

[DoDfag No.4732692]

I'm hyped, mods told me my map qualified so Joel's gonna play it any time now.
I hope he doesn't mind the only arch-vile I placed there but honestly it's not my fault he doesn't know how to deal with them or how to save ammo.

[Anonymous No.4732693]

>>4732690
I think it's because I didn't grow up playing Doom (was too young) that seeing old non-GL rendering bugs me. Also it's a peeve of mine that software rendering obscures so much shit in the distance.
Good to know it will be compatible as fuck though.

[Anonymous No.4732695]

>>4732686
>shit
how dare you, sir
this is high quality fertilizer, at the worst.
you'll be hearing from my mother

[Anonymous No.4732698]

>>4732695
>texture filtering
nvm, go back to software

[Anonymous No.4732708]

>>4732698
nothing is good enough for you

[Anonymous No.4732710]

>>4732668
>>4732679
>>4732683

Keep in mind the votes are weighted. Someone voting 5 isn't the same as five different people voting for it. A more proper gauge of popularity would be tallying up how many different people voted for something, rather than the weight of votes.
That being said, >>4732679 is right on the money. It's been around for a long time, offers a gameplay experience completely unique to it, and does it very well.

[Anonymous No.4732712]

Anyone here watch BigMacDavis?

[Anonymous No.4732713]

>>4732502
I have never once seen a brick layed diagonally

[Anonymous No.4732714]

>>4732713
I have.

[Anonymous No.4732716]

>>4732714
How do I know to trust you?

[Anonymous No.4732724]

>>4732716
I split the handle of a sledgehammer breaking down an outdoor fireplace for my gram and grandad. It had diagonal bricks. The wood pinched the meat of my hand something fierce.

[Anonymous No.4732734]

>>4732661
>700x528
Uhh.. what?

[Anonymous No.4732779]

>>4732716
what makes you say this? like anyone ITT turned out to be a revenant irl or something.

[Anonymous No.4732786]

>>4732309
Amazing.
Is that Ranger on the bottom right?

[Anonymous No.4732787]

Does anyone know how to disable texture filtering in KM Quake 2? I tried /gl_TextureMode gl_linear but it didn't do anything.

[Anonymous No.4732790]

>>4732787
Nevermind, figured it out.

[Anonymous No.4732804]

>>4732661
CAN NOT WAIT FOR REKKR

[Anonymous No.4732806]

>>4732804
>9 hours 23 minutes ago
hol up

[Anonymous No.4732808]

>>4732806
4chan was kill

[Anonymous No.4732809]

>>4731884
>>4731884
doomslayers bombs and knives felt pretty berserky to me in GMOTA

[Anonymous No.4732812]

Back to Shufflin'

[Anonymous No.4732813]

About fucking time.

[Anonymous No.4732815]

JESUS FUCK THAT TOOK FOREVER

Anyway, enjoy this oldschool painted cover, it was intended for Shadow Warrior, way, WAY back during its development.
That game has Alpha builds dating back as early as 1992, seriously.

[Anonymous No.4732816]

>>4732812
Mirrored angled rotations I can understand, but A1C1? Come on.

[Anonymous No.4732821]

Oh thank God we're back. I was reduced to browsing 8 dot ch /v/ DOOM threads. They have some right crazy conspiracy theorists over there, boy howdy.

[Anonymous No.4732826]

>>4732821
i got angry at their stupidity

[Anonymous No.4732827]

FUCKING BROKE AGAIN

THANK YOU BASED GOOKMOOT

[Anonymous No.4732828]

>>4732821
>>4732826
Friendly reminder to always disregard the Doom threads over there, they're absolutely worthless. /agdg/ is the only somewhat good thread over there, and even then, activity is slow.

Back to Doom talk, any mods or projects you guys looking forward to?

[Anonymous No.4732830]

Oh, 4chan was dead?
I was wondering why nobody posted the whole day...

[Anonymous No.4732832]

>>4732828
Still waiting for guncaster update.
Also looking at booster to taking shape. But that will take even longer, probably.

[Anonymous No.4732840]

I'm back, I decided to give Complex doom another try, downloaded every single possible addon and played it on Counterattack.wad

Holy shit it's actually amazing turns into a massive clusterfuck. When you're all runed up with the entire arsenal and you're fighting hordes and hordes of over powered demons it's extremely satisfying.

[Anonymous No.4732842]

>>4732840
> clusterfuck
Heh, funny how you used exactly this word to describe Complex Doom...

[Anonymous No.4732850]

The Virgin generic FPS heavy soldier
>Slowly walks forward like he's trying to be intimidating
>Bearly registered as a threat in a firefight
>usually fat
>tries to roast the player through his helmet, taunts are laughable
>has to reload, like, a lot
>carries a low to mid tier shotgun or light machine gun, somehow uses it worse than anybody else
>likely has a massive weak point on his back
>friendless; never seen with another of his kind in any scenario
>struggles to hold their weapon; has to use two hands
>bearly lights a candle to higher tier enemies
>Can't aim for shit
>Wears bulkier version of generic Mook armor
>Pale skin requires every inch of body to be covered to protect from sun
The DOOM chadgunner
>doesn't need to, but stands still while firing because mobility is for virgins
>strikes fear on an instinctual level
>so muscular that they have to wear special armor pieces to accommodate their build
>Lets out a mighty roar when they see an enemy
>does not know what reloading is
>handles the finest UAC weaponry with maximum efficiency
>has no weak points
>always seen in packs
>Holds chainguns one-handed to demonstrate his superiority
>single-handedly tears apart larger monsters
>Fires chaingun with precision to the point that he's practically a sniper
>Adorns himself with the blood of his enemies
>Aims to show off as much as his tan skin as possible

[Anonymous No.4732851]

>>4732840
Have you tried using 10x_u.pk3?

[Anonymous No.4732852]

>CH's bone wizard makes it where any time a monster dies, a skeleton is born
>>4732828
I'm hoping for Combined Arms' update, because those guns look fun.
>>4731251
If a Caco were to be in QC, would he have four skins with one based off Doom 64 or would they have to cut that one out for obvious reasons?

[Anonymous No.4732859]

>>4732852
Oh, goodie!

[Anonymous No.4732862]

>>4732850
more like
> does not care about accuracy, compensates with sheer volume of fire, a testament to how much fucking ammo he can carry

[Anonymous No.4732876]

>>4732852
Nah,they would slightly change it.After all D4 Caco also has hands.

[Anonymous No.4732881]

>classic caco in QC
>holds currently equipped weapon in his mouth
Come to think of it I think there's a pic out there of a cacodemon chewing on a keyboard

[Anonymous No.4732886]

>>4732881
there is. i used it for a thread once. the title was "biting commentary" if you want to search for it.

[Anonymous No.4732897]

>>4732886
Searched in archive.moe and warosu, I must be using these tools wrong because I couldn't find diddly.
Oh well.

[Anonymous No.4732906]

>>4732828
Whatever Null: Face to Face is going to be

[Anonymous No.4732907]

>>4732595
The very first level of Elf Gets Pissed makes great use of the tomed Phoenix Rod by forcing you to use it against an approaching army of golems.
>>4732661
I fucking love this.

[Anonymous No.4732914]

>>4732850
BAD THING
GOOD THING

[Anonymous No.4732921]

Have to admit,Beautiful Doom is so good
The addition of Smooth Doom animations is great.

[Anonymous No.4732924]

>>4732921
mapset?

[Anonymous No.4732926]

>>4732897
you are bad at computers.

[Anonymous No.4732927]

>>4732921
Now only if we can combine it with Dead Marine...

[Anonymous No.4732932]

>>4732926
Oh that's why. I searched for biting commentary

[Anonymous No.4732934]

Wolfenstein 3D bosses always fucked me up because of how they're larger than BJ and enemies, even their eyes are big as fuck
Imagine if TNO ended with Deathshead getting taller, wider and cartoon eyes while wielding machine guns instead of a mecha

[Anonymous No.4732935]

>>4732926
and I also didn't see the subject line there, fuck me.

[Anonymous No.4732938]

>>4732924
Doom one
http://www.moddb.com/mods/doomone

[Anonymous No.4732939]

>>4732927
Dead Marine is still in Beta state,I think they will add smooth sprites for the enemies too in the future.
Maybe if they release BD map effects only.

[Anonymous No.4732945]

>>4732934
>REMEMBER ME, BILLY?

[Anonymous No.4732950]

>>4732934
They looked weird but I think that's part of their charm.
On top of that most of them don't even wear an armor,they're dressed like regular soldiers.

[Anonymous No.4732959]

Pic related is from August. When'll the next update be?

[Anonymous No.4732964]

Haha zandronum be like
bang bang unf "SOULSPHERE"

[Anonymous No.4732978]

>>4732907
>>4732662
>fucking
Thanks. It's for a demo intro. You won't see rogue waves attacking you in-game.

[Anonymous No.4732998]

>>4732959

What would you see added onto it?

[Anonymous No.4733000]

>doom 3 hell knights get to look different in hell
Has any classic Doom mod or mapset ever made it, where enemies get certain changes in their home locations?

[Anonymous No.4733003]

>>4732998
No idea. Just wanted to make an updated version of the IWADs and more torrent, and didn't want to introduce one for v8 if v9 was just around the corner.

[Anonymous No.4733004]

huh

[Anonymous No.4733005]

>>>/wsg/2199264
Impact sound effects and some incomplete visuals (no bullet holes for metal surfaces). Pistol sped up and made silent for testing purposes.

[Anonymous No.4733009]

>>4732661
Stupid mod! You make me look bad!

[Anonymous No.4733018]

>>4733004
uhu

[Anonymous No.4733019]

>>4733003

Not a whole lot more I plan on doing with the image.
There's a bunch of minor tweaks and edits I could make (Pirate Doom moved to conversions, another levelpack in its place, Hangman replaced with QCDE, 200 minutes of /vr/ updated to mention 300 minutes), but I think the image is already pretty solid for a starting point. If I update it again, I'd like another entry for every category.
The "4chan's own mods" section has been languishing for quite some time. Make more mods, guys!

[Anonymous No.4733026]

>>4733019
I've made another two since then. But I don't think they're worth listing up there. REKKR could be added when it's launched. Project babel could be added as well, projectILE too.

[Anonymous No.4733032]

>>4733019
yeah ditch hangman, I don't think anyone actually cares about it
ant still isn't a word

[Anonymous No.4733034]

>>4733018
YOU THERE

[Anonymous No.4733047]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/92574-dimension-of-the-boomed-beta2-release/
I just played the first 2 levels of this and it's really impressive. It's a Quake themed mapset currently in beta.

[Anonymous No.4733050]

>>4733047
>Quake themed mapset
INSTA-DOWNLOAD

[Anonymous No.4733061]

>>4732914
I love this shit, lol

[Anonymous No.4733069]

rate reddit's taste

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/74c2dv/the_best_doom_wadsmods/dnx7cq2/

[Anonymous No.4733073]

I HAVE LITERALLY NEVER HAD FUN FIGHTING BARONS OF HELL WHY DO THEY EVEN EXIST

[Anonymous No.4733076]

>>4733073
To piss you off.

[Anonymous No.4733085]

>>4733069
My only complaint is the poster there called it "Strange Eons" not "Aeons"

[Anonymous No.4733089]

>>4733073
like, licherally cringing rn

[Anonymous No.4733090]

>>4733069
i don't care/10

[Anonymous No.4733096]

>>4732850

[Anonymous No.4733101]

>>4733069

One person is not a community/10

[Anonymous No.4733103]

Which of the 3000 Maximum Doom levels are worth playing?

[Anonymous No.4733105]

>>4732342
Then simply change its sprites via slade3 it's piss easy.
I changed the chaingun with doom 3 machine gun,helped increase the immersion for me.

[Anonymous No.4733106]

>>4733105
Oh my, that's a nice HUD. What is this?

[Anonymous No.4733109]

>>4733103
it's either all or nothing

[Anonymous No.4733112]

>>4733105
where'd you find that? Looks different from the usual version I see

[Anonymous No.4733113]

>>4733106
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9kbpvtd9kyprxv/newhud.wad?dl=0
I found it in the doomworld forum, here is the link if you like the hud

[Anonymous No.4733114]

>>4733103
just play the 20 commissioned levels

[Anonymous No.4733116]

>>4733113
Thanks anon. It's a good find.

[Anonymous No.4733117]

>>4733112
i believe it's by shivers

[Reaper No.4733119]

>>4733112
You mean doom 3's machine gun sprites?
It's from Shadows of the apocalypse.wad
Download it,copy the sprites, change their name and vola
I hope your familiar on how to use slade3

[Anonymous No.4733125]

>>4733116
You're welcome.
>>4733112
>where'd you find that? Looks different from the usual version I see
You mean the machine gun sprites?
They are from Shadow of the apocalypse wad.
Download the wad,copy the sprites ,rename them and you're done,i hope you know how to use slade3

[Anonymous No.4733129]

>>4733069
I don't see anything that's bad, I guess.

>>4733103
None of them, they're quite literally not worth your time, it's D-Zone tier by all accounts, and many of them are even broken, because a bunch of them were computer converted from Doom 1 to Doom 2, and this sometimes broke some levels.

Play the Master Levels instead. They're not amazing by any means, but there's only 20(+1) levels, and some bit of effort went into them.

[Anonymous No.4733149]

>>4732998
>>4732959
Shouldn't we seperate it into different images for topic like wads, mods, source ports etc

[Anonymous No.4733170]

>>4733047
inb4 it's just quack textures
get a real 3d map format, nurds

[Anonymous No.4733174]

>>4733170
there's a sprite shambler right there, you double skeleton

[Anonymous No.4733179]

>>4733174
but why did they use the ugly arcane dimensions model?

[Anonymous No.4733183]

>>4733179
>Arcane Dimensions Shambler
>Ugly

[Anonymous No.4733193]

>>4733183
it's got yellow man-boobs, eight of them

[Anonymous No.4733206]

>>4733183
But they're not wrong, it IS.

[Anonymous No.4733210]

>>4732850
Friendly reminder doomguy is a virgin and has no interest in sex

[Anonymous No.4733216]

>>4733210
May allah/god forgive me for saying this...But H-Doom is canon now....

[Anonymous No.4733219]

>>4733210
Doomguy is definitely on the spectrum someplace.

[Anonymous No.4733227]

>>4733210
Citation needed

[Anonymous No.4733235]

>>4733210
That's where you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.4733236]

Anybody have that infographic made by Rekkr dude on how to make a monster sprite? I just nabbed some ripped models and specifically need instructions on lighting and shit.

[Anonymous No.4733263]

>>4733227
word of god

[Anonymous No.4733285]

>>4733210
that just means doomguy is pure
pure rage

[Anonymous No.4733286]

is it possible to change actor height with zscript now

[Anonymous No.4733289]

Kegan, you're sure you fixed the SSG for the Doomslayer?
Because i tested it and i still could oneshot a revenant
Maybe i should get again

[Anonymous No.4733290]

>>4733289
>get
Check*

[Anonymous No.4733292]

>>4733263
When?

[Anonymous No.4733293]

Which boss of Wolf 3D is your favourite?
(Mecha Hitler aside of course)

[Anonymous No.4733296]

>>4733292
Carmack Twitter

[Anonymous No.4733297]

Heads up, Joel's about to start streaming WADs.

[Anonymous No.4733298]

>>4733293
why, the death knight

[Anonymous No.4733301]

>>4733210
unf

[Anonymous No.4733302]

>>4733293
gotta be the ubermutant

[Anonymous No.4733305]

>>4733206
I didn't play AD for a while so I don't I remember it.
Sorry.
Do you think it would've been better if they used this one instead?

[Anonymous No.4733309]

>>4733179
wait, can't you use the original shambler?

[Anonymous No.4733315]

>>4733297
twitch is vargskelethor, by the way.

[Anonymous No.4733321]

>>4733289
Yes. The revenants are just on the more fragile side in GMOTA.

[Anonymous No.4733323]

I actually didn't know you can regenerate your health with the blood pools in Wolf 3D.
Blazko you madman

[Anonymous No.4733326]

>>4733323
A shame it can only be done at single digit health

[Anonymous No.4733327]

>platunia

[Anonymous No.4733328]

>>4733327
TNT: Fertilization
The Petunia Experiment

[Anonymous No.4733331]

>>4733326
Maybe it would have made the game too easy. But then again it's not like you die in 2 hits when they shoot you in the back.

[Anonymous No.4733336]

>>4733323
BJ... had a hard life

[Anonymous No.4733337]

BTW I'm in the mood for some Wolf 3D.What mods do you suggest me /vr/?
I have ECwolf.The ones for Doom are fine too.

[Anonymous No.4733345]

>>4733337
Totenkopf SDL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZtkK8mJnkI

[Anonymous No.4733346]

Oooh Joel's talking about that guy who came to this thread to complain about how he played his game in the wrong way, apparently he emailed him.

[Anonymous No.4733347]

>>4733323
I think term included it as one of BJ's perks in samsara

[Anonymous No.4733356]

>>4733346
>Being so mad that someone doesn't play your map right that you actually email them to complain
What a tremendous faggot.

[Anonymous No.4733364]

>>4733346
That's pathetic.

[Anonymous No.4733376]

>>4733346
fucking amazing

[Anonymous No.4733384]

>>4733236
it doesn't have a lot of info, it's just a general "this is an idea how to get started maybe" thing

[Anonymous No.4733387]

>>4733309
in quake or in AD?

[Anonymous No.4733391]

>>4733387
in that quake themed wad
why didn't he used the original?

[Anonymous No.4733395]

>>4733391
It's a more detailed model that probably translated better to sprite form than the original. That's just my theory.

[Anonymous No.4733401]

Come join me in the doom 1 servers. been playing these servers since 2004:

zdaemon.org

[Anonymous No.4733404]

Has any of you ever had a Doom related dream or about any classic fps or even mods?
I once dreamed that a new Doom game had FIREBLU and i was talking about it so much, i was on an hospital bed with my family saying "what the fuck is he talking about, doctor?"

[Anonymous No.4733409]

>>4733401
what's the name

[Anonymous No.4733417]

>>4732907
>The very first level of Elf Gets Pissed makes great use of the tomed Phoenix Rod by forcing you to use it against an approaching army of golems.
Good stuff, also teaches players how ammo comsumption works with it.

[Anonymous No.4733420]

>>4733401
holy shit that's vintage

what's the uh, ip

[Anonymous No.4733438]

>>4733409

85.214.205.224

There's always only been like 4/5 doom 1 shareware servers so they are easy to find if you organize by IWAD. Unfortunately the US servers have crap settings so I stick to the international ones despite the ping

I was gone for a few years. I used to hang around since to old [ldf] days. Then I hung around the [DX] clan because they were all good and used to just troll everyone.

Servers used to be crammed, but nowadays it's rare to find players. I think many of the other veterans do private servers with different aliases.

At least now a lot of the annoying players are gone so I thought I'd pick it back up and just decimate players in the doom 1 servers like I used to

[Anonymous No.4733441]

When a map uses a weapon as an ammo pick up, can it be used as indication that you should use this weapon in the upcoming situation?
Like, if i already had a chaingun and saw one next to a new path, could that mean i not only get more bullets but also that i should switch for that weapon?

[Anonymous No.4733450]

>>4733438
servers are graveyards, but then again, doom is nearing 25 years soon

[Anonymous No.4733451]

>>4733441
It's there for pistol starts

[Anonymous No.4733456]

>>4733438
Is it the FFA?

[Anonymous No.4733501]

>>4733456
kek yes

[Anonymous No.4733526]

>>4733210
Then he's not an incel, he's voluntary celibate. He's not interested in sex because he's too busy murdering demons.

[Anonymous No.4733538]

>>4733501
I'm sorry, my skill is not enough

[Anonymous No.4733542]

>>4733538
You're better than most people that join.

[Anonymous No.4733548]

>>4733542
I killed myself multiple times in every match, you Zdaemon dudes are on another level

[Anonymous No.4733614]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjI1nPEMD90

[Anonymous No.4733662]

What are the comfiest laid back easy going wads for those lazy rainy days?

[Anonymous No.4733672]

>>4733614
>imp fireballs replaced with SUBAWALA
Holy fuck.

[Anonymous No.4733673]

>>4733662
see >>4733614

[Anonymous No.4733678]

>>4733662
>cozy
>that window
That room's humid as hell, that's the opposite of cozy.

[Anonymous No.4733679]

>>4733678
I'd argue that's frost on the outside.

[Anonymous No.4733681]

>>4733614
Canadian squirt gun arsenal when?

[Anonymous No.4733691]

>>4733384
thanks duder!

[Anonymous No.4733720]

>>4733678
I thought it was a cold day outside the room with the window frosted up. Not mine, I just grabbed it off google images.

[Anonymous No.4733739]

>mapping block

[Anonymous No.4733773]

>>4733739
>being able to start a map in the first place

[Anonymous No.4733782]

>>4732661
Just wanted to say this was a really well done intro.
Clever use of vanilla mechanics.

[Anonymous No.4733798]

>>4731454
What is the single most beautiful use of the Doom engine?

[Anonymous No.4733809]

>>4733401
I've been gone for a few years and this is pretty much dead. There are hardly any players left.

On the other hand, Zandrodum seems to be where it's at but I can't find any Doom 1 Shareware deathmatches of the classic 8 maps.

I feel like a relic. In the Zdaemon forum I was active from 2004 to 2012. The nostalgia.....

[Anonymous No.4733813]

>>4733809
Any other old Zdaemon players here? I used the names [LDF]One_Man, GLUM (terrible admins deleted that one over some [DX] trolling), and others. I'm getting back into it now but it takes time for players to show up.

[Anonymous No.4733818]

>>4733809
Multiplayer community is dying, it's mostly just the oldies along with a few new people every year. The singleplayer community has little overlap or interest, and most attempts to change this fail.
It's currently just the veterans hanging with each other, trying to keep it alive.

[Anonymous No.4733867]

>>4733798
For official releases? Hexen imo.
For mods? Vanilla? GZDoom? Spritework? Total conversions?
There's a lot out there.

[Anonymous No.4733978]

>>4733813
>Any other old Zdaemon players here?
I thought Zdeamon is dead like skulltag...
>>4733818
>Multiplayer community is dying
Only if you are a Zdeamon fan or hahaha Odamex one.
Zandronum seems to be doing fine,if your looking for multiplayer Zandro is your only option it seems

[Anonymous No.4734019]

which youtube channels showcase doom or any retro game mods besides icaruslives?

[Anonymous No.4734032]

>>4734019
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU9IqAljGhCXPj9RcZ-RlsA

This guy is small but getting started.

[Anonymous No.4734062]

>>4733818
Zandronum actually has more players than before.

[Anonymous No.4734082]

>>4734032
I've only watched a few videos and so far, he doesn't seem to describe most of a mod's features, even if they're not that missable.

[Anonymous No.4734105]

Hello /vr/! I was thinking about doing a super micro-cosmetic update for The Space Pirate that would fix some things up and maybe add some minor flourishes. It wouldn't really be a whole brand new version with all the features I had done for the MK2 release (check out the ZDoom forums if you're wondering why), but would kind of be like a "rom hack" sorta tweak. Would anybody be interested in that?

[Anonymous No.4734141]

>>4733739
I really enjoyed playing with Doombuilder, and making pretty and detailed environments (ostensibly), but I realized I actually didn't really have any grasp on level design theory or making good encounters, so I gave up on it.

Maybe I should give it a new go someday, now that I'm older and actually understand encounters and stuff.

[Anonymous No.4734154]

>>4734105
I honestly don't see why not. I mean even just fixing up minor things and releasing it could go a long way in garnering interest.

[Anonymous No.4734156]

Comical clothing change spin succeeded

[Anonymous No.4734160]

>>4734156
Just imagine if that spin did damage to the enemies. Taz Doom.

[Anonymous No.4734174]

>>4729031
TNT also had Romero's name written in blood, that awful teleporter puzzle and what i once assumed were "invisible" Arachnotrons.

[Anonymous No.4734180]

>>4734174
that teleporter puzzle doesn't even really qualify as much

[Anonymous No.4734191]

>>4734174
Romero's name is just an easteregg, and the teleporter puzzle in Last Call is just that, a puzzle.

Nothing of this is really world building or lore.

[Anonymous No.4734192]

>>4734156
Certainly brings a new meaning to spinning the thread!

[Anonymous No.4734197]

>>4732806
I Could not wait so I made everyone else wait instead

[Anonymous No.4734262]

>???

[Anonymous No.4734265]

>5.5 hour outage
>again
can we get a site admin that actually knows how to admin

[Anonymous No.4734269]

>>4734105
what do you have to lose?

[Anonymous No.4734271]

Another 6 hour downtime.

Where do you people go when the website is down?

[Anonymous No.4734272]

>>4734265
Let me just get my friend Graf.

[Anonymous No.4734274]

>>4734265

It was this cock spanker's fault >>4734197

[Anonymous No.4734276]

>>4734272
Yes! Let's put Mommy Rachael in charge of another piece of critical infrastructure!

[Anonymous No.4734279]

>>4734271

I play Doom.

[Anonymous No.4734282]

Since downtime is relevant again:
Tell me about twicechan's Doom threads, why are they bad, how are they different, etc? Someone mentioned conspiracy theories?

[Anonymous No.4734285]

>>4734279
>doom

[Anonymous No.4734286]

>>4734271
I played Kirby Super Star for a while and know i wonder if whoever was making that mod could have added the helper system

[Anonymous No.4734289]

>>4734272

[Anonymous No.4734291]

>>4734282
>8gag

You have your answer right there.

[Anonymous No.4734295]

>>4734276
rachael is cool

[Anonymous No.4734297]

If you use freelook the proper thing to do is disable autoaim, correct?

[Anonymous No.4734303]

>>4734297
I disable it just for the fact that freelook with autoaim feels really weird.

[Anonymous No.4734305]

>>4734282
>how are they different
- comparatively very slow
- more posts about doom 4
- not much interest in purism, it's gzdoom/zandronum or nobody cares
- more posts about moon man / columbine / trump reaction images / other pol stuff
>Someone mentioned conspiracy theories?
That was me. I went back to check, it was just one guy with a crazy story about id's early days that was quickly debunked. Nobody else seemed to believe it. So forgive me for jumping to conclusions. It's not a hive of crazies.

[Anonymous No.4734306]

>>4734305
>- not much interest in purism, it's gzdoom/zandronum or nobody cares
sounds like this thread.

[Anonymous No.4734307]

metadoom's baron/hellknights would be a lot better if their new abilities were used on more open spaces and would only shoot regular fireballs and not jump when they're in tight corridors

[Anonymous No.4734308]

>>4734282
every time i've been there, people have been more interested in off-topic forum drama bullshit than actual doom

4ch's got annoying off-topic tangents but 8ch's lasted entire threads, drowning out actual discussion
so i just stopped going
i just want to play vidya

[Anonymous No.4734310]

>>4734306
i don't share your impression. i am a traditionalist and prboom user, and there are enough others that i don't feel alone.

[Anonymous No.4734313]

>>4734282
Imagine if these threads were on /v/, but with a mix of /pol/, Reddit, more drama and shitposting, that it makes you wonder whether or not they even care about the games at all.

[Anonymous No.4734315]

>>4734310
other than the "filters are objectively bad" meme most wads discussed here are stuff done on sourceports.

[Anonymous No.4734317]

>>4734315
yes, prboom is a wonderful source port

[Anonymous No.4734321]

>>4734313
Sounds like these threads in a way, sometimes.

[Anonymous No.4734325]

>>4734306
>>4734321
damn, owned.....

[Anonymous No.4734326]

>>4734282
Either dead or cancer. Sums up the entirety of redditchan

[Anonymous No.4734327]

>>4734305
>>4734308
>>4734313
good answers, thanks

[Anonymous No.4734329]

>>4734315
oh i see. you would prefer the threads to be about vanilla only. although i never use the really advanced ports like gzdoom, i think abandoning source ports completely is a bridge too far for me.

[Anonymous No.4734330]

>>4734271
I tried to make a map!

[Anonymous No.4734332]

How strange to see this, yes I had one last night. I had spent the last few hours before bed drafting stuff for a level so maybe that's why.
I'll give a brief rundown, don't expect this story to make any sense.

I was somewhere near a massive river in the middle of nowhere, I went down by the water and saw a huge boat and then suddenly felt myself being sucked under the water towards it. I couldn't fight it off but by the time I got onboard I found I had a humongous cannon and was up against a horde of Satyrs and I was thinking to myself how unfair the blast radius was against them, before thinking that Russian Overkill makes no sense in most levels and it's just for show. I also thought the huge area I killed them all in had no detail and wouldn't be interesting to play.

After I blew the hell out of all of the bad dudes in the hull I went upstairs, where a gang of bank robbers had stolen some jewels but one of them accidentally threw them in a garbage disposal and they were sifting through crap trying to find it, arguing amongst themselves.

Then my view cut to another robber, who was a sentient guinea pig, where he had in fact stolen the jewellery and got away in a miniature speed boat built for guinea pigs.

Then while getting away he got arrested by the police in their own mini speed boats and I got arrested for having a huge gun but released when they saw I helped capture the bad dudes.

[Anonymous No.4734334]

>>4734315
also i realise calling it purism was the wrong word so i apologise for the confusion
>>4734330
any luck?

[Anonymous No.4734335]

>>4734332
k.

[Anonymous No.4734336]

>>4734334
No!

[Anonymous No.4734338]

>>4733404
How strange to see this, yes I had one last night. I had spent the last few hours before bed drafting stuff for a level so maybe that's why.
I'll give a brief rundown, don't expect this story to make any sense.
I was somewhere near a massive river in the middle of nowhere, I went down by the water and saw a huge boat and then suddenly felt myself being sucked under the water towards it. I couldn't fight it off but by the time I got onboard I found I had a humongous cannon and was up against a horde of Satyrs and I was thinking to myself how unfair the blast radius was against them, before thinking that Russian Overkill makes no sense in most levels and it's just for show. I also thought the huge area I killed them all in had no detail and wouldn't be interesting to play.

After I blew the hell out of all of the bad dudes in the hull I went upstairs, where a gang of bank robbers had stolen some jewels but one of them accidentally threw them in a garbage disposal and they were sifting through crap trying to find it, arguing amongst themselves.

Then my view cut to another robber, who was a sentient guinea pig, where he had in fact stolen the jewellery and got away in a miniature speed boat built for guinea pigs.
Then while getting away he got arrested by the police in their own mini speed boats and I got arrested for having a huge gun but released when they saw I helped capture the bad dudes.

[Anonymous No.4734357]

Is D64 Retribution any good? I already tried EX.

[Anonymous No.4734381]

I've gotten an annoying fixation on barrels now because I'm trying to justify why they're in my map. What do you think is in them and why do they explode? Don't say "nuclear waste" either because not only is it too obvious but nuclear waste doesn't entirely work that way...it's solid for a start.

Most stupid of all is that I know this doesn't matter, nobody will care when they play much less even notice but I am interested to hear what explanations people have had for them over the years. I'd prefer to see them as a mixture of things ranging from chemical waste left over from mining processes, to nasty secret ingredients from UAC to the demon's built them for some mcguffin reason.

[Anonymous No.4734396]

Tell me /doom/
Tell me where one could acquire some MODERN ARTS AND FEAR BOOKS

[Anonymous No.4734407]

Tell me /doom/
Tell me where one could acquire some MODERN ARTS AND FEAR BOOKS

[Anonymous No.4734418]

>>4734381
"Toxic waste" or fuel according to the manual.

[Anonymous No.4734419]

>>4734381
It's cake mix, but the demons are having a terrible time trying to make it, and they're producing it en masse, so you have to frantically run to their kitchen and say "No, you're doing it wrong, here let me show you" and you start singing Coking by the Book from Lazytown

[Anonymous No.4734421]

>>4734418
Fuel would make sense, rocket fuel is insanely volatile.

[Anonymous No.4734423]

does anyone have any good references, tutorials, lessons, videos, etc on level design theory? I feel like im somewhere between meh and okay when it comes to designing maps, and I'd like to do better

[Anonymous No.4734425]

>>4734381
It's retirement grease

[Anonymous No.4734429]

>>4734423
Type "doom design tips" into google and go over the results. They're pretty good as I've been doing exactly this. Plenty of good forum threads on it. Also try this.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97124-designing-caves/

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/95288-a-little-level-design-tips-thread/

http://tankermottind.tumblr.com/post/123754770395/the-secret-to-a-good-doom-level-its-the-layout

[Anonymous No.4734435]

>>4732164
The current v21 is better polished and optimized than Sperglord. The mod's direction has been changing to the better recently.

[Anonymous No.4734438]

Redid the distortion effect I'll use for shockwaves. This time it doesn't use any chroma keying at all. The effect will not be obscured by corners if a grenade explodes just visibly past one though. Worth it imo

[Anonymous No.4734440]

>>4734438
Can you tell us about this mod you're working on?

[Anonymous No.4734442]

>>4734438
Holy shit, I didn't even know you could do that. We F.E.A.R. grenades now

[Anonymous No.4734443]

>>4734438
This fully reminds me of S.T.A.L.K.E.R anomalies.
I presume you have played it, is there a way to get the effect you're making and make it move/rotate in space or fluctuate?

That is seriously fucking cool. I saw your other videos on this in the other thread and was very impressed.

[Anonymous No.4734446]

>>4734440
Started out as a mod to load on top of Project MSX to make everything faster and fancier. Now it's a tc that'll have original weapons and enemies.

Going for something in between fast movement based arena shooters and F.E.A.R, with a good amount of throwable/deployable bombs and gadgets.

[Anonymous No.4734449]

Been working on "Custom Gun" some more as of late. Here's a demonstration of the new "frosty" effect, which slows down enemies and their projectiles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6nmGw_TGk0

[Anonymous No.4734452]

>>4734435
>The mod's direction has been changing to the better recently.
[citation really fucking needed]

[Anonymous No.4734454]

>>4734449

Looks clever.
I'm assuming it's copious usage of A_SetTics?

[Anonymous No.4734458]

>>4734446
How will you have those explosions take effect?
In real time or slow mo? Because I don't know how well slow mo can work as rapidly freezing everything on and off seems too wonky.
But if I remember F.E.A.R had that effect in real time anyway.

[Anonymous No.4734460]

>>4734442
I think there's even a third way to do it with camera textures printed to the screen with custom shaders. Which would be the best, probably. That's the next step I want to try.
Did you see the WIP bullet impact webm? Posted a /wsg/ link earlier in this thread.

>>4734443
Yeah, I could actually just copy the internal warp shader and apply it on top of the sphere. That'd be easy. And thanks anon.

Going to bed now because I stayed up way late for this.

[Anonymous No.4734463]

>>4734460
Thanks bruh, all the best and take care.

[Anonymous No.4734470]

>>4734271
Some of us work for a living.

[Anonymous No.4734472]

>>4734271
Outside to talk to the daywalkers.

[Anonymous No.4734481]

>>4734470
Sorry to hear it
>>4734472
Hope you're okay

[Anonymous No.4734494]

It's a super silly thing but I hate it when Joel plays long maps because that means he won't play as much per stream and I'll have to wait aaaanother week to see if my map is going to be featured or not.

[Anonymous No.4734495]

>>4734494
It's the result of giving people twice the time as the previous contest and only have to work on 1 map rather than 3.

[Anonymous No.4734504]

>>4734446
>Started out as a mod to load on top of Project MSX
Different guy, funny that it started like that for me with the Immoral Conduct thing.

Or rather, I was delighted to see it ported, but I didn't like the old cartoon M16, so made a quick and dirty replacement from other sprites. But I didn't like the grenade launcher so I made it just throw a hand grenade instead, and then I changed something else, and something more, etc, kept tweaking and redoing things.
I kind of had none of these intentions from the beginning but I'm glad it's turning out this way, I'm really enjoying it.

[Anonymous No.4734508]

>>4734446
>something in between fast movement based arena shooters and F.E.A.R

[Anonymous No.4734531]

>>4731456
Commander Carlos CXVII released a new update of Burpal Droid.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/downloads/brutal-doom-v21-beta

[Anonymous No.4734537]

>>4734531
time for my favorite part

to criticize this shit and then watch his asshurt on twitter as he tries to dismiss everything based off one or two posts

[Anonymous No.4734542]

MORK SMOSH

[Anonymous No.4734547]

>>4734105
>is anyone interested in a The Space Pirate update
Heck yes

>(check out the ZDoom forums if you're wondering why)
Uh, that's a bit vague... you referring to your post about a non-doom project in the Space Pirate thread in September last year?

[Anonymous No.4734550]

>>4734321
I feel like 8 is somehow worse than 4chan when it comes to derailing threads into "who's the bad guy"

[Anonymous No.4734557]

>>4734547
Sorry! I meant that a lot of the features I was working on that I posted screenshots of are lost due to a harddrive issue, so I'm actually working with the latest Github version.

[Anonymous No.4734567]

>75mb
jfc mark what the fuck did you cram in there
v20 was barely pushing 30mb

also good sprites for the axe, mark, i really like how the ready-to-swing frame has blurred hands and jaggedy handle

[Anonymous No.4734568]

>>4734567
Why is /doom/ so obsessed with Mark? Geez.

[Anonymous No.4734573]

>>4734568
wow, a new build of a mod came out, i wonder why i'm talking about it

[Anonymous No.4734574]

>>4734573
Everytime he so much as picks his nose this thread can't shut up about it. It's the person/mod you talk about the most.

[Anonymous No.4734576]

>>4734574
wow, a new build of a mod came out, i wonder why i'm talking about it

[Anonymous No.4734579]

The viewbob on this running makes me physically ill.

[Anonymous No.4734582]

>>4734568
Because his mod has an almost literally cult following. Tell a brutal doomer that you won't make a compat patch for their shitty mod and get ready for the endless hatemail.

[Anonymous No.4734584]

>>4734568
Because noone else is
When someone makes a MatthewMatosis type of critique video on why the mod is shit and how it even got this popular, then that anon can stop

[Anonymous No.4734586]

>>4734454
Nope! No monster modification at all, actually. It uses a ZScript custom powerup that modifies the tics so it works on any monster.

[Anonymous No.4734590]

>>4734579
I can only feel bad for you. Same as people that can't handle 3d, high framerate, VR, viewwarping, low/high FOV, etc.

[Anonymous No.4734597]

>>4734438
Neat, now we can have black hole weapons that don't look like shit. Out of curiosity, is this effect point only or can it wrap around let's say; a monster sprite?

[Anonymous No.4734618]

>>4731454
Back in the day I played a mega wad that had levels where you started near like a little shuttle craft, making it seem you were taking the shuttle craft around from map to map.

Anyone know which megawad it could be?

[Anonymous No.4734627]

>>4734618
Marswar?

[Anonymous No.4734628]

>what if picking up the health pack spawned 50 enemies?

[Anonymous No.4734635]

>>4734628
>50
That's fucking nothing

[Anonymous No.4734636]

>>4734627
Based, thanks!

[Anonymous No.4734642]

>>4734628
I normally get annoyed at that kind of thing, unless it's a powerup like berserk or a megasphere.
It's like when you put enemies in secrets, there were some levels in BTSX that had loads of them sometimes and it pissed me off. There is a time and a place I guess but sometimes I went into a secret and had the shit kicked out of me and even came out with less ammo too.

[Anonymous No.4734645]

Ok, question of the century, now is the time to decide forever and ever, winner takes it all and loser takes a fall.....so....

"Starbase" or "Techbase".

[Anonymous No.4734651]

>>4734645
I have never heard 'starbase.'

[Anonymous No.4734675]

>>4734645
Starbase is a subset of Techbase. You can have a techbase structure that isn't space-oriented, but not a starbase with no tech theming.

[Anonymous No.4734676]

>>4734645
Starbase stands to something built in/over/in orbit of a star (a fucking sun). The name is cool, but makes absolutely no sense.

[Anonymous No.4734681]

>lose more health to a sneakily placed shotgun guy than a cyberdemon

[Anonymous No.4734696]

>>4734675
>but not a starbase with no tech theming
But what if you did starbase with no tech theming?

[Anonymous No.4734698]

>>4734696
>wooden starbase

[Anonymous No.4734701]

>>4734698
Categories AB and B.

[Anonymous No.4734704]

>>4734701
man....why can't we go back to this level design
fuck I loved playing UT when it first came out, my adderall filled 9 year old brain had a total blast

fucking loved the music too, it was amazing because it's in that range of being easily memorable and catchy but not overproduced, modern remasters just don't get it, theres too much technology

"save me", "razorback" and "fire breath" were my favs

[Anonymous No.4734709]

>>4734698
>not a colony inside a giant photosynthetic organism that figure-8's between a binary star system
Dropped.

[Anonymous No.4734710]

https://youtu.be/IbYT_c-nWDg

Alright! So I've doubled the damage of melee attacks and increased the amount of time you can input the next move in the combo. Typically as soon as the first attack is thrown completely, you can immediately follow up.

Next is increasing the stunrate for melee and also converting melee attacks to short projectiles

[Anonymous No.4734712]

>>4734709
that sounds killer, but fuck designing the organic shape in Doombuilder
also, stop with these radical ideas as i'll want to use them then feel guilty for taking them

[Anonymous No.4734713]

>>4734698
That'd be cool as fuck.

Or a stone temple floating in space, that'd be cool too.

[Anonymous No.4734717]

>>4734710
I like this idea of getting more out of melee combat, Brutal and it's variants do it and it's one of the things I like the most but of course it's overshadowed by everything else.

What replaces the chainsaw?

[Anonymous No.4734718]

>>4734717
Currently nothing! The plan in the MK2 version was for the gauntlets I showcased like two years ago to do so, but I no longer have those graphics, so I'm not too sure.

[Anonymous No.4734723]

>>4734710
will this be done in zscript or decorate?

[Anonymous No.4734725]

>>4734531
>release
>it's a public beta update

[Anonymous No.4734729]

>>4734723
Decorate. I really don't want to ZScriptify the mod quite yet until I'm sure all the progress I had made is really lost forever. The cool thing is...this runs in Zandronum as is, which is really nice.

[Anonymous No.4734734]

>>4734712
An idyllic town with a single road along a giant mobius strip.

A giant WW1 era aether ship.

A city carved into the chitin shell of a giant insect as it travels a desert planet.

[Anonymous No.4734736]

>>4734729
fair enough

decorate's still more than enough to get things started in

[Anonymous No.4734737]

>>4734734
That's it, I'm closing this thread.
When I become a billionaire off these ideas I asked you not to give me and you're walking alone one night past the TV store in the rain and you see me on the hot seat talking about how I've made it, don't blame me for it coming to that point, this is your fault!

[Anonymous No.4734740]

>>4734701
Man, I still want Unreal Engine style corona lights to be a thing in (G)Zdoom.

[Anonymous No.4734741]

>>4734718
Hmmm, well nothing comes to mind here but I'd suggest something that gives more utility than the chainsaw does in vanilla doom.

In Project Brutality it's actually a viable weapon to use at some points and not just a "out of ammo for everything" weapon. I unno....a lightsaber the main character beat up a Jedi for?

[Anonymous No.4734747]

>>4734676
>an airbase is a base that is built floating in the air

[Anonymous No.4734749]

>>4734737
What about a giant city statue, where you travel through the veins and on the surface of the figure?

What about a giant slowly rolling disc, that you had to constantly keep up with as you play or you'd fall of the side? So the map layout keeps changing... That'd be neat.

[Anonymous No.4734750]

are images down for anyone else?

[Anonymous No.4734751]

>>4734749
>giant city statue
>traveling through the veins and on the surface
>a giant disc

oh shit

I just had an even better idea

[Anonymous No.4734752]

>>4734531
exactly what is the update?

[Anonymous No.4734753]

>>4734750
No.

[Anonymous No.4734754]

>>4734710
>looking at the decorate for this
Jesus christ man, surely you can condense this shit a bit. It's not private Pablo tier but every weapon looks like one of Yholl's decorate warcrimes.

[Anonymous No.4734760]

>>4734754
Honestly if it works, I have no problem with it. If a ZScriptification is on the horizon (which is the plan at the moment), there's really no point in going through and trimming stuff. Besides, things look the way they do now for a reason. The only code I really have issues with is the shotgun, but that's because I had really no hand in doing that.

[Anonymous No.4734761]

>>4734760
Bruh that weapon code is verging on non-maintainable. If I were you I'd at least shove a lot of comments in so that once you do refactor you don't get totally lost. "It looks like shit but it works" is how you end up wanting to blow your brains out reworking stuff later.

[Anonymous No.4734767]

All these amazing map ideas in this thread needs to be compiled into a megawad.

[Anonymous No.4734769]

>>4734750
Shit's broke for me. Though I'm just lurking on my phone.
Well not anymore seeing as I just posted. But yeah, nothing is loading

[Anonymous No.4734772]

>>4734752
Can't examine the link yourself? it's in the description.
Notables:
>- Fixed a bug causing a dying imp to spawn infinite head hitboxes.
>- Fixed a bug that didn't allowed the player to rocket jump.
>- Health and Armor bonus won't respawn in multiplayer to prevent players from abusing it and slowing down Survival games.

[Anonymous No.4734775]

>>4734752
>>4734772
yeah, i got real bored going through it real fast

tl;dr: everything's mostly the same, outside of some really fucking minor changes that i have a hard time believing took this long to come out

[Anonymous No.4734781]

>>4734734
>>4734767
Have fun making that mobius strip in Doom

[Anonymous No.4734786]

>>4734781
Maybe with a series of portals and skyboxes.

[Anonymous No.4734789]

[Anonymous No.4734792]

>>4734710
marty lives?
TSP LIVES?

[Anonymous No.4734795]

>>4734789
what am i looking at?

[Anonymous No.4734797]

>>4734795
Garbage 3d effects clipping through the floor unintentionally a mere 2 levels into doom 2.

[Anonymous No.4734803]

>>4734789
Brutal Doom has been bitched about to death on this forum, but what did annoy me was all the shit that was going on all the time that seemed like "noise", namely clanging bullet, shell casings, extra shit on the screen and imps made too much noise and their fireballs took up too much space
Still play project brutality primarily though.

[Anonymous No.4734808]

>>4734803
>forum
>implying
But yes, it's astoundingly visually noisy and the audio seems to constantly be competing to see which clip can drown the others out. The general rule for these kinds of things is that it's ok to add visual flair when it also conveys information, but Brutal Doom is such a mess of effects that most of the information is lost. Even if all sounds were lowered a bit and most effects made half as large the whole thing would be easier to look at.

[Anonymous No.4734814]

>>4734808
are you saying this is not a forum?

[Anonymous No.4734815]

>>4734814
lurk moar

[Anonymous No.4734816]

>>4734815
>imageboards aren't forums
forum
ˈfɔːrəm/
noun
noun: forum; plural noun: forums; plural noun: fora

1.
a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
"we hope these pages act as a forum for debate"

[Anonymous No.4734817]

>>4734814
This is a symposium.

[Anonymous No.4734820]

>>4734817
Wrong, this is a colloquium.

[Anonymous No.4734830]

>>4734820

Actually, it's a series of tubes.

[Anonymous No.4734832]

>>4734830

[Anonymous No.4734834]

>>4734832

[Anonymous No.4734835]

>>4734789
That's.. that's not how waterfalls work

[Anonymous No.4734836]

>>4734834
YESSSSSSSS

[Anonymous No.4734857]

>>4734458
There won't be any bullet time until someone extends the engine's sound playing function. I don't want to mess with duplicates of every single sound file, or the inability to slow down sounds already playing.

Other than that, it would be easy slowing down time without freezes.

[Anonymous No.4734864]

>>4734449
>durability
eugh.

Also, it'd be nice if you could somehow "cannibalize" less-desired weapons into ammo (or as spare parts for said durability system)

[Anonymous No.4734868]

>>4734628
>Serious Sam 4 in Paris?
pottery

[Anonymous No.4734891]

>>4734857
I remember iogw.wad having "bullet time".

[Anonymous No.4734893]

>>4734789
You can disable these specific models in options.

[Anonymous No.4734908]

>>4734891
Oh I meant there won't be any in my mod, other than maybe as a hidden cheat.

[Anonymous No.4734938]

>>4734803
>forum

[Anonymous No.4734950]

>>4734816
We get it, you're new to the site or don't care about the site culture. There's no need to go around advertising it.

[Anonymous No.4734954]

>>4734579
>being near a hook hanging from the ceiling hurts you

[Anonymous No.4734958]

>>4734954
>running at a hook hanging from the ceiling at 10 mph hurts you

[Anonymous No.4734962]

Is it just me or does Hexen get much better starting with Heresiarch's Seminary? It feels like there's a lot more open space in the Seminary and Castle than in the previous two hubs.

[Anonymous No.4734964]

>>4734958
So would slamming into a wall, but I doubt you'll code Doomguy taking damage every time he bumps into the wall when cl_run is true

[Anonymous No.4734973]

>>4734964
I can think of a mod

[Anonymous No.4734984]

>>4734964
Stop giving Matt ideas.

[Anonymous No.4734989]

>>4734984
It's been in

[Anonymous No.4734990]

>>4734769
yeah I meant on phone. other previously loaded pictures work and show up fine but everything else refused to load. has clover just given up?

[Anonymous No.4734997]

>>4734964
Except the hook can pierce your chest, and tear you apart as you run.

[Anonymous No.4735002]

>>4734997
So would slamming into a wall, but I doubt you'll code Doomguy taking damage every time he bumps into the wall when cl_run is true

[Anonymous No.4735003]

>>4735002
>beware of pointed walls

[Anonymous No.4735006]

>>4734997
If one was to run at a hook like that, they'd simply knock it to the side because it's attached to a chain, meaning it has little resistance
The only pain would be blunt, from your chest knocking it aside

[Anonymous No.4735007]

>>4735002
I have seen some stupid people doing some nasty shit trying to throw fishing hooks. Now imagine a hook 10 times bigger, attached to the ceiling by a steel chain, against the weight of your entire body at 10 miles per hour, I believe it would hurt you quite a bit more than just slamming a wall at the same speed.

[Anonymous No.4735008]

>>4735006
>>4734997
and of course most crucially THE HOOK ISN'T EVEN FACING OUTWARDS, it's facing up, meaning you'd have to be like patrick star and sit on it purposefully to get hurt

[Anonymous No.4735017]

>>4735008
>>4735007
>>4735006
>>4735003
>>4735002
>>4734997
>>4734964
>>4734958

I'm starting to think Admiral Anselmo is adding such inane updates because he knew or expects /vr/'s gonna nitpick on them.

[Anonymous No.4735027]

Am I the only one who finds Golden Souls fucking boring? Feels like im just spamming down HP sponges, these evil plants are the worst.

[Anonymous No.4735032]

>>4735017
> i'll totally troll those guys by going through with all these horrible design decisions which will only prove them right
> that'll show em!

[Anonymous No.4735040]

Okay so I played some of Serious Sam 3 again because now it automatically installs alongside the unified version of TFE and TSE, and I made it halfway through the game this time, and man it still sucks so much. I can totally believe the rumor that Croteam was making a generic military shooter and just slapped a bunch of Serious Sam themed enemies into the maps when it got canceled.

It's like it should be a 10 minute long Unity engine parody of Call of Duty but instead the joke never fucking ends.

[Anonymous No.4735045]

>>4735032
they just don't understand this stable brayne genius' hard work creating the dark souls of doom

[Anonymous No.4735062]

>>4735027
no, that's an extremely common complaint

[Anonymous No.4735114]

>they're at it again
>>>/gif/12601159

[Anonymous No.4735123]

>>4735114
ok

[Anonymous No.4735224]

>>4734789
Old news.

[Anonymous No.4735239]

>>4735017
It's more like his idiotic fanbase keeps requesting inane new features, and since they're paying him for it, he can't say no.

[Anonymous No.4735283]

>>4735224
More like "How the fuck has he not fixed this yet?"

[Anonymous No.4735296]

>>4735062
The plants have been nerfed in a recent patch (that also buffed almost all the weapons), plus they are nerfed even more in the sequel.

[Anonymous No.4735302]

>>4735283
>fixed
Why would he fix a feature?

[Anonymous No.4735306]

>>4735283
The point is, you've a whole new update to pick apart, but you choose to jump on something that's been in there for months, and was already widely lambasted when it was new itself. Come on - is that the best you can find?

[Anonymous No.4735316]

>>4734950
What's up with you not liking the word "forum" to the point that you pretend like I'm not right even though I just proved you wrong?

[Anonymous No.4735318]

NEW THREAD

>>4735314
>>4735314
>>4735314

[Anonymous No.4735324]

>>4734710
I thought TSP was cancelled?

[Anonymous No.4735815]

>>4735324
Never said it was! It's always been on hiatus.