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>No save feature
>Not even password
>Tails can't fly
>Shield power-ups are plain
>Compulsory Super Sonic transformation
>S&K just adds Knuckles to the game
>Infamous final boss
>Infamous casino level

Why so many people consider Sonic the Hedgehog 2 better than Sonic the Hedgehog 3?

>> No.3701908

Sonic 2 was released as a full game.

>> No.3701913

>>3701902
Why so many people consider Sonic the Hedgehog 2 better than Sonic the Hedgehog 1?

>> No.3701916

>>3701902
You can always do the level select code. It's not like Sonic games are long or challenging anyway.

>> No.3701918

>>3701916
It's not challenging but it is pretty damn long

>> No.3701936

>>3701918
Nah most levels take less than 5 minutes to clear if you know what you're doing.

>> No.3701958

>>3701902
>Not even password
For what, 96 exits? In case you haven't heard: you go fast in that game.
>Tails can't fly
>Shield power-ups are plain
"Why isn't that game exactly like Sonic 3? So what that it says 2 on the package?"
>S&K just adds Knuckles to the game
What else did you fucking expect, naked photos of Yuji Naka?
>Infamous final boss
>Infamous casino level
Looks like you have infamously shit skills

Your complaints boil down to: "I wanted a game exactly like Sonic 3 and that's why Sonic 2 is shit". You bought the wrong fucking game then

>> No.3701964

>>3701908
That's been a moot point for over 20 years.

>> No.3701965

>>3701936
>less than 5 minutes
That's quite generous. The first few acts can be cleared in under 3 minutes easily unless you even bother with super sonic

>> No.3701979

>>3701958
Turn off your autism and read the thread again.

>> No.3702118

>>3701902
>game is only 2d

why did people ever like this?

>> No.3702145

>>3701936
>>3701965
3-5 minutes for that many stages is still on the long side, and it can take way longer if you do special stages, hunt around for rings, or (god forbid) die.

>> No.3702167

>>3701936
The only stage I'd consider to take that long would be sandopolis

>> No.3702185
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3702185

>>3702145
I never do special stages. The reward is just not worth it, and they're the worst in the series.

To me the appeal of Sonic is that first, you explore all the stages: learn the enemies, routes, ring box locations, etc. Eventually you find the most optimal one and then breeze through them, only perfecting your memory.

>> No.3702370

Well it took me about two and a half decades but I finally got to the end of Sonic 2.

Which is best to play first: Sonic 3, & Knuckles, or Sonic 3 & Knuckes?

>> No.3702376

Because the stages don't take forever to complete.

>> No.3702398

>>3702376
>can't beat S3&K in under 30 minutes
git gud kid

>> No.3702401

>>3701902
>Infamous casino level

I have NEVER heard it being called "infamous", probably a failed meme you tried to start because you literally got lost and confused in a Sonic game.

>> No.3702427

>>3702401
Seconding this. The only "infamous" thing I can think of from Sonic 2 is the pit in Mystic Cave zone and that's not exactly a game breaker.

>> No.3702431

Casino is a great zone, everyone loves it.

Carnival Night, on the other hand... (and no, I'm not talking about the barrel, that was never a problem for me)

>> No.3702434

Sonic 2 is the shortest and easiest
Generally people prefer that

>> No.3702437

>>3702434

All Sonic games are easy, bro.

Also, I'm sure Sonic 2 is longer than Sonic 1, 3 and S&K

>> No.3702440

>>3701902
Beat the game in one go.

Why need a password on a platformer? The levels are fun

Tails is an asshole.

Shield power up was a new thing at the time.

Don't let yourself get 50 rings.

S&K is awesome by itself.

Its a perfect game.

>> No.3702445

>>3702440
>Shield power up was a new thing at the time.

Sonic 1 had shield.

>> No.3702446

>>3702434
Sonic 2 is harder than Sonic 1. By the time you get to Metropolis zone you start getting sleepy, and then you have to beat a tough two bosses. Getting all the rings is harder.

>> No.3703068

>>3702370
>Which is best to play first: Sonic 3, & Knuckles, or Sonic 3 & Knuckes?

Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Don't bother playing them separately unless you somehow have to.

>> No.3703087

sonic 2 added spin dash which I really liked. Casino lvl was awesome.

I did like the additonal shield features, but knuckles kinda lame.

>> No.3703764

>>3703068
>Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Don't bother playing them separately unless you somehow have to.
Isn't this one of those things that people are always arguing about for some reason?

>> No.3703776

>>3703764
It's autists and their retarded nitpicks like changed boss musics and some spikes got removed to make the game easier.

>> No.3703854
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3703854

You know the reason, right?

>> No.3703967

>>3701902
>Compulsory Super Sonic transformation

this was the first super sonic
likewise it didn't have a compulsory SS boss

>> No.3703970

>>3701913
it's level design utilizes it's speed gimmick better than the original

also Super Sonic and casino level

>> No.3704007

>>3703854
the eyelashes make him appear more masculine than feminine

>> No.3704010

>>3704007
it's funny because it's true
he really does look more masculine with these eyelashes painted on

>> No.3704129

>>3704007
>>3704010
t. gay in denial

>> No.3704180

>>3704129
they did say "more" I mean compare to the other two poses.

>> No.3705018

>>3704129
it's not my fault they made tails' design so cute

>> No.3705030

Sonic 2 is definitely the worst of the classic games. Still pretty good though, and I have a bit of nostalgia for it since it's the first one I played.

>> No.3705059

>>3705030
CD, Chaotix and the 8-bit games are worse though.

>> No.3705078

>>3701958
>What else did you fucking expect, naked photos of Yuji Naka?
Yes.

>> No.3705084

>>3703776
Sonic 3 Complete exists, so they have no excuse because it (optionally) fixes all those issues.

>> No.3705086

>>3705059
Sonic 1 on megadrive is pretty good honestly.

>> No.3705087

>>3705059
>8-bit games are worse

Nigger, I will fight you.

>> No.3706665

>>3702446
>By the time you get to Metropolis zone you start getting sleepy, and then you have to beat a tough two bosses.
wh... what?

>> No.3706674

>>3702446
no i think 1 is definitely harder other than the final boss
labyrinth zone and scrap brain can fuk your shit

>> No.3707581

>>3702185
Seems like you have the right idea. I could never get into Sonic 2 as a kid because I had to try to get *everything*, even backtracking to get rings that reappear after you go to the special stage. You wouldn't think it would be possible to be too autistic for Sonic, but here I am.

Is it stupidly difficult to finish Sonic 2 with Knuckles?

>> No.3707606

>>3707581
>I could never get into Sonic 2 as a kid because I had to try to get *everything*, even backtracking to get rings that reappear after you go to the special stage.
Sonic 2 is just not well-suited for this… It's funny because there's a lot of cool stuff hidden in interesting spots in it, so it's tempting to collect it al; but it clashes with what you actually should do. So yeah, you skip most of this hidden stuff and just go forward. The big point is still to go fast through stages, after all.

You want a true collectathon where stuff you collect is actually accounted somewhere, try DKC, Super Metroid, SM64 or whatever. All the stuff in Sonic 2 is never counted anywhere, all you get from it is lives, but IIRC if you beat the stage fast enough you get a life anyway, so why bother? Getting all the rings is pointless too for this reason, why collect 100 when you can just grab a life.

> Is it stupidly difficult to finish Sonic 2 with Knuckles?
Sorry, haven't tried it. Where I live S&K was never sold in a proper lock-on cart form.

In any case, I guess in Sonic 2 Knuckles should be just like Sonic, only better.

>> No.3707916

>>3701902
>No save feature
>Not even password

Did you not use the debug cheat code that everyone uses to get level select?

>> No.3707928

>>3701902
>>Compulsory Super Sonic transformation
What? The only time you absolutely need to become Super Sonic is in the one level specifically designed for him.

>> No.3707960

>>3701902
I always thought Sonic 2's zones felt out of order. Like, Emerald Hill. then suddenly Chemical Plant, then suddenly Aquatic Ruin? How does that even make sense?

>> No.3707964

>>3707928
You're thinking of Sonic 3 & Knuckles. In Sonic 2, you transform into Super Sonic by simply jumping, while in Sonic 3 you need to press jump a second time mid-air to transform

>> No.3708346

>>3707581
> Is it stupidly difficult to finish Sonic 2 with Knuckles?

The final boss becomes extra hard but that's about it.

>> No.3708387

I think Sonic 2 is the worst of the 4 classic games. The levels feel like a chore sometimes (Oil Ocean, Hill Top in particular) and it just feels... off, the art and the atmosphere just feel wrong for some reason.

You shouldn't need a save, though, the game can be beaten pretty quickly even without skill.

>>3707581
It's pretty easy mode with Knuckles because the ring behavior changes in stages - in regular S2, rings don't respawn when coming back from the special stage. In S2K, they do, making it ridiculously easy to get Super Knuckles and amass a high amount of both lives and continues. The only part that really gets tough is Death Egg, because Knuckles doesn't jump as high, but it's not THAT much harder.

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3708397

Is every single enemy you don't destroy doomed to exist forever as a cyborg? The game isn't giving me any closure there.

>> No.3709025

>>3702446
No way

When I had both in my Megadrive, I could never finish Sonic 1, always died in Labyrinth Zone, didn't even know if there were levels after that (I was 13)

While Sonic 2 I did beat multiple times, yes, it is longer, but MUCH easier, even doing the bonus stages (with Sonic alone, Tails makes you lose many rings if controlled by the CPU)

It wasn't until I played in an emulator years later that I beated Sonic 1

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>>3701902
This casino level is the worst shit, what the fuck were they thinking?

>> No.3709449

>>3702427
What pit would this be? I think I remember one that was inescapable in Stage 2, but I can't be certain.

>> No.3710069

>>3709216
Literally my introduction to using the internet for help.

>> No.3710072

>>3709216
>what the fuck were they thinking?
"We're only releasing half a game, how can we pad the game length so it will seem longer to some people"