Why the fuck did it take almost a decade for someone to come up with such an obvious design?

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Anonymous Fri Aug 12 16:14:48 2016 No.3421914 [Reply] [Original]

Why the fuck did it take almost a decade for someone to come up with such an obvious design?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 16:19:47 2016 No.3421923 Because physical button addons for smartphones have so little support that nobody wants to invest in making a high quality one.

Anonymous Fri Aug 12 16:26:41 2016 No.3421939
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Cause its shit design. Handhelds dont need to be in two fucking parts. Ds and 3ds get a pass cause they fold, but they still are not as ergonomic as any gameboy or psp or vita. Someone needs to make a case you slide your phone into, buttons on each side and a hole for the screen

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 16:39:56 2016 No.3421967 >>3421939 There are controllers like that already.

Anonymous Fri Aug 12 16:42:01 2016 No.3421972

>>3421939
>Handhelds dont need to be in two fucking parts
they don't need to be in one piece either. The design in OP's pic allows to use a living room controller and maximizes the available screensize, regardless of the size of your phone/phablet. Both things a slide-in can't offer

Anonymous Fri Aug 12 16:42:54 2016 No.3421974
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When it comes to bluetooth controllers there are basically three divergent schools of thought

>I want the controller to have ideal ergonomics
Use a PS3 controller or a bluetooth repro/modded version of your fave controller plus a clamp

>I want to have the ideal screen layout
Use a decent clamp on controller like pic related which is pretty popular

>I want something that fits in my pocket
Use the best bluetooth controller that's small enough for your pocket

OP looks like it falls somewhere between category 1 and category 2, maybe in a nice place depending on the thickness of the controller and how slim is the clip.

Personally, I carry an additional device, an Xperia Play because the whole thing is smaller than most bluetooth controllers. People who want big power also will often have a dedicated device like an Nvidia Shield. It's nice not to worry about your phone's battery.

I predict there's going to be demand for a good clamp-on bluetooth controller with very good Windows gamepad compatibility, considering how common Windows tablets are becoming.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 16:47:07 2016 No.3421985 >>3421974 I want something wired.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 16:53:22 2016 No.3422002 File: 65 KB, 1024x683, img_4252-1024px1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3421985 just wire my shit up senpai

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 16:55:43 2016 No.3422009 >>3422002 Now it only needs to hold a 10" tablet and it might be perfect.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 16:58:22 2016 No.3422016 >>3422009 There's a good reason why hand held consoles are usually 4-5 inches.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 16:58:48 2016 No.3422018 >>3421914 Why didn't YOU come up with it? You sound like a lazy, unimaginative fuck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 17:01:08 2016 No.3422025 >>3422018 your mom was a lazy, unimaginative fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 17:01:38 2016 No.3422027 >>3422016 Because they are for children.

Anonymous Fri Aug 12 17:04:00 2016 No.3422029

>>3421974
The reason I want the one I posted is because it's between number 2 and 3, actually. The clip shit has existed for a while, but it always depended on ps3 controllers or bulky stuff like that. The one you posted looks less bulky, but still. Basically I'm a weeney that only cares about not looking autistic in public.

>>3422018
I did, in my [spongebob voice] i-ma-gi-na-tion. Though in my imagination the clip was foldable, but you can't have everything can you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 17:07:47 2016 No.3422037 >>3422029 >you can't have everything can you https://www.amazon.com/Everything/dp/B0011Z4Y6E/

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 17:14:11 2016 No.3422052 File: 241 KB, 1280x960, rzr junglecat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3422029 how do you feel about sliding cases

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 17:17:23 2016 No.3422062 >>3422052 Those are cool but generally have no dual analogs, or are iphone-only

Anonymous Fri Aug 12 17:22:48 2016 No.3422075
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>>3421914
Weren't smartphones low powered shit a decade ago?

Like, I think mine is neat now, being able to check 4chan or YouTube on the toilet or when out and about is a feature I value, but phones in 2006 didn't exactly have a lot of memory or processing power, at least from what I remember (shit, my previous phone had serious slowdown and memory issues when trying to run Doom on a Boom port), and they didn't have a lot hardware or software support compared to today.

I'm not saying it couldn't have been done, putting an emulator on one and attaching a controller to make sort of a faux hand-held system, but I'm not sure it would be as easy or smooth.

>>3421939
>Handhelds dont need to be in two fucking parts. Ds and 3ds get a pass cause they fold
Basically this, the method where you basically join a phone and a standard gamepad with a clamp is bulky and awkward, it doesn't fit in your pockets unless you're Paul Bunyan.

>Someone needs to make a case you slide your phone into, buttons on each side and a hole for the screen
There's a couple of designs like that already, one has a rubber gasket which you jam the phone into, and supposedly it's supposed to sit snug. Others come with a set of spacers and fitting pieces to fit a number of models through combination.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 17:25:22 2016 No.3422087 >>3422075 >Weren't smartphones low powered shit a decade ago? no, smart phones always favored computing power over other aspects

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 17:27:44 2016 No.3422093 File: 81 KB, 1920x1080, maxresdefault[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3422029 Just join the dedicated device master race already. Mod yourself a PSP if you want to test drive the lifestyle on the cheap with a horizontal layout

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 17:29:12 2016 No.3422096 >>3422087 Yeah but I mean compared to even cheap stuff today.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 17:29:17 2016 No.3422097 >>3422087 Indeed. I emulated Playstation on my HTC Wizard WinMo in 2005

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 17:36:44 2016 No.3422116 File: 730 KB, 900x616, jncobus.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3422075 >it doesn't fit in your pockets unless you're Paul Bunyan. Don't speak of what you don't understand anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 21:16:23 2016 No.3422550 >>3422116 That guy must own a sega gamegear and Atari Lynx.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 21:39:24 2016 No.3422603 >>3422116 just put it in your purse instead, anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 12 21:43:37 2016 No.3422613 >>3422116 is that sam hyde

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 00:22:04 2016 No.3422839 File: 53 KB, 600x399, 110328122vx.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why the fuck didn't sony just make a better and more powerful version of this

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 04:54:00 2016 No.3423162 >>3422839 Because the PSP line hasn't really been a good financial hit for them, they've ceased development of handhelds and no longer supports any of the PSP models.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 05:04:15 2016 No.3423171

>>3421914
I have that controller, but not the smartphone mount. I use it for PC games. It's alright. Not great, but serviceable. I'd prefer to use a real SNES controller, but the extra set of shoulder buttons is useful because I use one for mumble/ventrilo/teamspeak to talk to my >friends while playing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 05:14:55 2016 No.3423181 >>3423171 >It's alright. Not great, but serviceable I'm having an eye on that controller. What are its problems?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 05:39:27 2016 No.3423206 File: 104 KB, 1070x602, 00-top.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Supposed you had the dollars to drop on this baby, would you?

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 05:39:44 2016 No.3423207

>>3423181
The analog sticks are very tiny so not very intuitive to control, if you care about those. The d-pad is alright, probably on the higher end as far as modern controllers go, but still not as good as a real SNES/SFC controller (and nothing else ever will be). I'm extremely picky about d-pads, they're a very subtle thing to get exactly right. This one is usable though. ABXY/Start/Select buttons are all fine. The L/R shoulder pairs are split horizontally so you may or may not find it a tiny bit difficult to hit the right one depending on your hand size, I went back and forth trying to decide whether I liked the outer pair more or the inner.

The only other annoying thing with this controller is the LEDs on the bottom are constantly flashing on and off when being used in PC mode, for some reason.. They can't be turned off, unless there's a firmware patch for that now. Overall I figured the $40 I spent on it would be a gamble, but I ended up liking it, and I'm happy with what I got for the money, I guess.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 08:25:22 2016 No.3423348

>>3422052
My phone has a full physical QWERTY keyboard that slides out from under it. I've posted about it before. It's also considerably heavier than other phones I've owned and held, which I like.
I run emulators and map the controls to the physical keys.

Works a dream. Makes me wonder why none of you guys do that. I can play games on the go discreetly rather than have to look like a spaghetti-mode spastic, pulling out a phone and controller and that snappy-on-y thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 08:29:11 2016 No.3423354 >>3421923 It's all about this. First and foremost, mobile games have to be played using touch. Developers have to make games with the assumption that people will just be using the screen to play before assuming people will have a separate controller.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 08:37:22 2016 No.3423369

>>3423354
I'm >>3423348
I'm not quite sure what developers you're talking about. Literally every emulator I've ever used has support for physical inputs. Every. Single. One. And that's over a dozen different emulators.

Or are you talking about playing non-/vr/ touch games on your phone and, if so, why are you talking about that here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 08:42:29 2016 No.3423373 >>3421914 That's a nice pad. It's like the best of Nintendo in a single pad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 08:44:47 2016 No.3423375 >>3423369 I don't have to defend my words, this is 4chan. You don't even know who I am.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 08:48:05 2016 No.3423376 >>3423375 I see. So you and >>3421923 are just speaking out the left side of your arse with no validity to your statements at all. That's cool, man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 08:54:49 2016 No.3423382 >>3423206 I have one of these. Its great for playing PlayStation games. Build quality kind of sucks though. Has decent ports (video out, otg, mSD). Psp and ds worked nicely as well. Mostly used it for manga though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 08:58:55 2016 No.3423385 >>3423375 >You don't even know who I am. You're Benjamin Disraeli?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 09:08:41 2016 No.3423393 >>3423348 >Makes me wonder why none of you guys do that. because there are no good phones with a slide-out keyboard, and playing a game using WASD with my thumb makes me sick thinking about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 09:13:02 2016 No.3423401 >>3423385 When that gag came on my father actually did know who he was.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 09:25:11 2016 No.3423413 >>3423401 As did I. Well, only that he was a British PM. Literally nothing else.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 09:28:42 2016 No.3423421

>>3423393
What's a "good phone" to you, Anon?

I play NES, SNES, GB, GBC, SMS, MD/Genesis, Sega CD, GG, PCE/TG16 and the non-retro GBA on my phone, no problems. Well, few problems. Can't emulate Popful Mail well and Yoshi's Island won't run at all.

>wasd is bad!!!
Then map the keys to something else.

>i don't wanna!!!
Then why are you complaining?

>nobody loves me and i have no friends!!!
I'll be your friend, Anon. Here: hold my phone and play some Monster World IV. (:

>>3423401
I did, too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 11:35:55 2016 No.3423609 Just play on your telly ffs

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 11:44:26 2016 No.3423621

>>3423421
>What's a "good phone" to you, Anon?
a recent version of Android, nice specs, good battery life. I want up to PSX in RetroArch, but I'd want Saturn once Mednafen Saturn hits Android.

>>wasd is bad!!!
>Then map the keys to something else.
There IS nothing else. there's no d-pad, and if there is it's on the right and probably still isn't good enough.

>>i don't wanna!!!
>Then why are you complaining?
way to assume that I didn't have a good reason jackass

>>nobody loves me and i have no friends!!!
Fuck Off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 11:46:33 2016 No.3423625 File: 247 KB, 570x668, aahaha.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3423421 >playing games on your phone

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 11:47:18 2016 No.3423627 Shit like that existed for years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 12:05:32 2016 No.3423657 >>3422075 >supposedly it's supposed to Triggered

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 12:09:04 2016 No.3423659 File: 483 KB, 1920x1440, openpandora_multitasking.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3422093 >Android

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 12:13:20 2016 No.3423662

>>3423625
I just started doing this. Playing metroid rom hacks or sonic and knuckles with my daughter while waiting at the dmv is fucking great and you are a gay faggot homo queer if you think otherwise. I have a cheep chink ps3ish bluetooth controller(literally 8 bux), a clip, and a galaxy s7. I play rampart while shitting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 12:15:24 2016 No.3423667 >>3423659 >conan and kirby that's too kawaii for this imageboard

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 12:31:07 2016 No.3423704 >>3422116 I want those pants.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:01:46 2016 No.3423779 >>3423206 I actually have one. Fucking great. Can play any Android emulator pre PS2 perfectly. It even plays Dreamcast with no hiccups.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:36:35 2016 No.3423868

>>3423621
>a recent version of Android
Got me there. Mine's running 4,4,2.

>nice specs
What are "nice specs" to you? Mine's pretty nice, although the phone is (gasp!) two years old now.

>good battery life
I can run my phone three days on a single charge with intermittent gaming, internet use and phone conversation or 24 hours or so with lots of that stuff. Is that good or no? Supposedly, the battery can last 17 days.

>I want up to PSX in RetroArch, but I'd want Saturn once Mednafen Saturn hits Android.
I don't know if I can run PSX or not. Never tried. Was never huge into that era. I assume I can, though. As for Retro Arch, I don't use it, but I don't see why that would be a problem.

The only issue I have with it is that I can't screenshot anything. That's literally the only problem I have.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:46:40 2016 No.3423886 >>3422052 shiiiiiiit! Thats what I want but with two analogs and 4 triggers like a jxd. Its basically a psp go

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:49:24 2016 No.3423889 what is that and where do I buy it I have a Nexus 6 though

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 14:07:04 2016 No.3423923 >>3423704 You can have mine. My wife won't let me wear them. Apparently the 90s are over.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 14:09:41 2016 No.3423934 >>3423659 >pandora Excited for the Pyra? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZcFnunrVGw

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:28:33 2016 No.3424198 >>3423659 >tfw bought one of these pieces of shit and the guy in charge took the money and ran

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:15:49 2016 No.3424289 File: 13 KB, 393x216, Retro-RetroCon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3421914 Well hellllllooooooo It has probably been done before this PS2 pad as well

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:20:39 2016 No.3424298 We need more circular d-pads. You shouldn't have to lay across two arrows to diag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:07:14 2016 No.3424443 >>3424298 Blame Nintendo and Sony for that,

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 11:17:21 2016 No.3425985 >>3421914 Is this the NES30 PRO/Crissaegrim? I wonder if it works with games that are touch-based, like the FF remakes

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 11:24:08 2016 No.3425995 File: 1022 KB, 4272x1728, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck, I really wish 8bitdo hadn't tried to awkwardly cram the SNES's extra buttons into the NES controller form factor. It's the one thing stopping me from buying the NES30.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 11:32:10 2016 No.3426004 >>3425995 >SNES's extra buttons what makes you think they were aiming for the SNES?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 11:35:09 2016 No.3426007 >>3426004 >X and Y face buttons, forming a cross shape >L and R shoulder buttons What else would it be?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 11:38:44 2016 No.3426009 >>3426007 a controller to play modern games with, in the style of an NES controller. Many games assume 4 face buttons and two triggers, because of their complex input schemes

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 11:41:46 2016 No.3426012 >>3426009 In any case, they already make an SNES clone controller for that. Should have left the NES30 with its original layout for those who don't want the extra buttons getting in the way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 11:48:02 2016 No.3426014 >>3426012 it's for those that want 4 face buttons and the NES design. The SNES controller does not use the NES design

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 11:53:44 2016 No.3426018 >>3426014 The NES never had X and Y buttons or shoulder buttons. Retrofitting new controller layouts on old ones that were never designed to fit them is the problem.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 11:54:33 2016 No.3426020 >>3426018 >the problem your problem. The company is pretty cool with what it's making, and so are their buyers

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 13:01:01 2016 No.3426125 >>3422093 What device is that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 13:06:43 2016 No.3426138 >>3424198 That's exactly why I refuse to support anything else from those faggots.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 14:14:54 2016 No.3426293 >>3426138 That was a geordie named Craig Rothwell. The guy behind the Pyra is Michael Mrozek, who runs dragonbox.de. The same guy that offered sizable discounts to people who were scammed by Rothwell despite having no obligation to do so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 14:54:35 2016 No.3426378 >>3421939 Disagree. Having the main screen above the controls means you don't crane your neck down while playing. It's one of the many subtle design advantages the DS systems had over its PSP competition.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 14:56:34 2016 No.3426382 >>3426378 The DS had its main screen between the controls, and behind the controls. It had an additional, secondary screen in the lid

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 19:54:59 2016 No.3427140 >>3422052 Can I buy something like this for a 6s?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 20:10:21 2016 No.3427167 >>3426293 What a noble fucking thing to do. A god among men.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 23:10:59 2016 No.3427509 >>3426007 Just about any basic controller design from the last 20 years? Highly doubt many people even realize SNES was one of the first to do it anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 23:42:43 2016 No.3427576 >>3421914 that controller is ass though, which is funny because it was real damn expensive too for bluetooth.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 23:51:29 2016 No.3427593 >>3422839 >Got this with contract thinking it'd be great >Terrible control deck all around, shoulder buttons are garbage and slip >Sony drops support for it completely, only like three PSX games actually got ported to it in the end Never again

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 23:51:35 2016 No.3427594 >>3427576 >that controller is ass how so? >>3423207 suggested it's not bad

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:22:17 2016 No.3429187 >>3423375 underage plz go

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:58:29 2016 No.3429253 >>3423376 Stop being such a patronizing prick

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