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What the fuck happened to /vr/?!?!
Last time I came here, it was filled with intelligent discussion and actually coherent threads. Now it's just RAMPANT SHITPOSTING!!!
Has /v/ finally taken over just like they did with /g/?!

>> No.3145338
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>>3145332
The board is basically massively resisting the idea that the 6th gen is retro and a fuckload of shitposts are coming from people accusing others of being children, kids, underaged, etc. constantly.

Genesis and SNES faggots have taken over the board almost completely and daily console wars with the most generic bait and shitflinging imaginable are occurring and people keep posting in them.

Lots of misinformation, dumbass collectors, and resellers are posting and making threads and lots of morons with no idea what they are talking about post constantly now and have ideas and beliefs that no one else has but they keep flooding them around in every thread.

Lots of discussion about the 6th gen continually gets curbed even when it brings fresh topics to the board in favor of the 100th recommendation thread for the Sega Genesis and the 100th console war thread about blast processing and Gensis vs SNES music.

People are hateful and awful towards one another on here on top of all the shitty topics and repeated conversations that keep happening because the board is literally out of things to discuss, and the board only seems to focus on the tiny era of Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis with a smattering of random short lived discussion about a few other systems and games.

>> No.3145342
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>>3145338
>being this mad that you can't discuss your precious PS2 on /vr/
It NEVER EVER will be retro, deal with it.

>> No.3145345

>>3145342
Here is a primary example, that even a system that is over 16 years old is not retro in the Sega Genesis/Super Nintendo posters minds.

>> No.3145350

And when were you last here, OP? Must have been a good long time ago if this change shocks you. Don't know why you're even upset since you obviously don't come here enough to grow attached to the place.

>> No.3145354

>>3145345
Yes and never will be.

>> No.3145357

>>3145345
Games like God of War or Halo have no business being discussed on the same forum that is dedicated to SNES or Genesis.

>> No.3145358

>>3145338

This.

Console wars are for retarded children without a disposable income and ignorant fanboys. There are great games on every platform but we constantly have threads here like:

>N64 HAS NO GAMES LEL
>GENESIS ONLY HAS ARCADE GAMES LEL AND HOW ABOUT THAT SHITTY ASS GENESIS MUSIC REKT
>TOP KEK, THE SNES HAS SLOWDOWN FUCK ME IN THE ASS I CAN'T TOLERATE GAMES WITH SLOWDOWN

We get the occasional quality threads but more or less it can be boiled down to this. The funny thing is is that the main argument for disallowing 6th gen is that it'll make the board filled with fags from /v/, but we have already seen that happen over the course of the past two years anyway. It's just gotten worse and worse.

I lurk here these days and don't post often, and when I do its usually in a Saturn or NES thread. Fuck this board.

>> No.3145362

>>3145342

I'm sure the Atari fags were telling the NES fags that the NES would never be "retro" either.

>> No.3145373

>>3145362
Atari fags were right, fuck the NES.

>> No.3145378

>>3145338
Dude, fuck off with the 6th gen shit. Go to /v/ if you want to talk about them. The shitposting is going to be 100x worse if they were allowed. The board would get flooded with garbage and actual retro games topics aside from fucking Merio and Sonic wouldn't last a day

>> No.3145379

>>3145362
I never heard the word "retro" applied to video games at all until 2013.

>> No.3145381

>>3145362
In all seriousness though I don't mind 6th gen I'm just sick of meta posting. If you wanted a ps2 board you should have been bugging hiroyuki instead of making endless whiny threads here.

>> No.3145382

>>3145373
This is the exact mindset of /v/. Fags that think they're right come here and shitpost all day. You are a disgrace to this board and should leave immediately.

>> No.3145385

>>3145382

I was jokes.

>> No.3145389

>>3145381

I actually don't want a ps2 board. I'm just sort of pointing out the flawed logic at work here.

Personally, late night /v/ actually has some decent 6th gen discussion though its pretty random. I don't think 4chan is the best place for discussion so disallowing 6th gen here doesn't really matter to me.

>>3145379

Really? I've heard it since I bought tons of carts for cheap at eBgames and gamestop back when they were selling off old stock.

>>3145373

If you say so. Atari isn't even a thing anymore.

>> No.3145391

>>3145378
>Dude, fuck off with the 6th gen shit.

Hey grandpa nigger: Time stops for no one. The PS2 is 16 fucking years old. People who were born when it came are driving cars now and will be able to post here in two. It's fucking retro and should be allowed to be discussed.

>> No.3145393

>/vr/ can't talk about 4th gen and 5th gen games without console war shitposting
>but maybe 6th gen games will be better!

>> No.3145395

>>3145378
I agree with you. Do you really want /vr/ flooded with 12 year olds talking about Gaylo? I don't.

>> No.3145396

>>3145338
>>3145345
I kinda agree with OP and you do bring out some fair points, but please. 6th gen doesn't belong here. People never really cared about the cutoff and things were comfy as fuck here until "b-but /v/ told me to post here" people started coming, paired with a ship of trolls, and /vr/ isn't really the brightest board when it comes to trolls.

While I agree a board for things less than new could bring fresh discussion, /v/'s shitposting will also inevitably reach that place in a neverending cycle. Things must suck sooner or later, deal with it. If 6th gen were allowed here, I couldn't post about some DOS game from my childhood without the thread being sent to page 10 like crazy because people would only ever talk about 6th gen stuff (the same way you lament people posting SNES and Genesis threads, most of them being falseflags), which is plentiful. While by limiting ourselves to a certain age, we can focus discussion and give everyone a chance.

>> No.3145397

>>3145389
I'm pointing out that your pointing out is annoying, I don't wanna have meta threads. Go bug hiroyuki, make your own reddit or board on infinity chan, whatever.

>> No.3145398

>>3145391
>>It's fucking retro and should be allowed to be discussed.
>kids arguing about why gaylo was best game, ps2 vs xbox threads, etc.
yuck, get that shit OFF of here

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>>3145393

The source of the 4th and 5th gen posting is purely the anti-Nintendo mentality though.

>N64 HAS NO GAMES
>SNES HAS SLOWDOWN

It's incessant. Calling it out and putting the shitposting in its place is step 1 to better 4th and 5th gen discussion.

Furthermore a lot of those shitposters might just be shitting up the board on purpose because they can't talk about their precious 6th gen here.

>> No.3145406

>>3145397

Yeah well you're wrong for thinking I'm OP or that I'm creating threads on the matter. I'm just fucking replying to the thread anon. You can stop getting your panties in a bunch and telling me to go to websites I don't ever go to.

>> No.3145412

>>3145393
It would at least add something to talk about.

>>3145395
People who were 12 when Gaylo came out are in their mid to late 20s now.

>>3145396
>give everyone a chance.

And yet you limit yourselves to a fucking cutoff for what can be discussion. In one breath you fucking contradict your own post you retarded faggot.

>>3145398
Oh yeah, because /vr/ is an Algonquin round table with MUH NINTENDO IS BETTER THAN UR SEGA FAG SHIT already, right?

>> No.3145413

There's no saving /vr/ when its self-appointed guardians are its biggest shitposters.

http://desustorage.org/vr/search/text/%22fuck%20off%22/

>> No.3145414

>>3145391
Not retro, never will be retro. Byeeee

>> No.3145416

>>3145414
Good your leaving. No one wants you here either.

>> No.3145417

>>3145412
>/vr/ is already shit so let's shit it up some more!!!

>> No.3145419

>>3145358
>Console wars are for retarded children without a disposable income and ignorant fanboys.
You can't be this stupid. Every console that's allowed on /vr/ is easily emulated now, so that's a piss poor excuse. The real reason is because of all the oldfags on /vr/ that want to relive the dead console wars, arguing what they believe to be the superior console. It's a mindset that's akin to Ford vs Chevy, or Packers vs Patriots. You can't stop people from picking a side and being competitive about it, no matter how stupid or irrelevant it may be. If you want a place where everyone agrees about the same thing, you might want to try Reddit, sounds like something more up your alley.

>> No.3145420

>>3145402
>4th and 5th gen posting is purely the anti-Nintendo mentality though

Confirmation bias. Don't be playing the victim game, bro.

>> No.3145421

Really the best solution would be another vidya board dedicated to 6th & 7th generation. 8th added to it too after we get a new gen.

>> No.3145425
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>Another 6th gen pusher hijacking someones thread
NEVER EVER WILL BE RETRO.

This board has gotten more hostile, you cannot change that since it has set in. Part of it is /v/ mentality with "This game is the greatest and everything else is shit" so that just generates shit flinging and then other people who want to change the rule sets and are ousted with hostility.

You really cannot expect civil discussions on an anonymous site on a hobby such as video games, that is silly without getting stomped by moderators and by then what is the point of the forum if you cannot voice your opinions that go against the grain?

Maybe you should be looking at different sites, maybe image boards really don't cater to you.

>> No.3145428

>>3145420

Explain. I don't even own either of those consoles. It's literally the bulk of what I see though. I'd implore you to pay attention.

Of course there is SEGA shitposting but its nowhere near as common.

>> No.3145429

>>3145417
Yeah, it's shit because you goddamn niggers berate anything that doesn't meet your arbitrary hugbox cutoff date. You're pulling this hypothetical impending 6th gen console war shit out of your ass because you probably engaged in it like a little faggot 10 years ago when you first posted on 4chan.

Maybe you faggots really are too busy reviving 16 bit console wars to actually discuss anything that came out 17 years ago.

>> No.3145430

>>3145425
>You really cannot expect civil discussions on an anonymous site on a hobby such as video games
why were there civil discussions here before /v/ shat it up with "UGH ACCEPT 6TH GEN PLS!!!!!" and "GENESIS IS BETTER THAN SNES AND ALL OF SNES GAMES ARE SHIT LOLZORAXIS"?

>> No.3145432

We could end these arguments now if the mods came up with a plan for adding new consoles. Even if it was crazy restrictive and banned all future consoles under the age of 30, we could still point people to the rules whenever they demand a /halogen/.

>> No.3145434

>>3145425
>This board has gotten more hostile, you cannot change that since it has set in.

Sad truth. I think this board would only benefit from being a sekrit club, but that's also against what this site stands for.

>> No.3145436

>>3145419

>GO TO REDDIT

god no

>> No.3145437

>>3145429
>hugbox
wow, what choice of buzzwords you have, anon!
please, delight me more with your /v/-tier buzzwords and shitposting.

>> No.3145439

>>3145428
>Literally who consoles (TG-16 and Neo Geo)
>Fart sounds
>Gimmicky short arcade games
>Where are the RPG's?
>Why is the sound chip so shit?
>Why doesn't the SEGA Genesis have anything as iconic as Zelda, Mario, Metriod, Final Fantasy, and so on?

>> No.3145440

>>3145416
Bed time son, you've got church in the morning

>> No.3145443

>>3145437
>please, delight me more with your /v/-tier buzzwords and shitposting.

Says the faggot who offers no rebuttal to what I posted.

This shithole really is /v/ away from /v/.

>> No.3145448

/vr/ was fine the way it was until the guys wanting to force the cutoff date past 1999 started showing up here screaming about how there's nothing to talk about.

Personally I enjoy the slow-moving /vr/. It does not need to be /v/.

If you want more topics to discuss, and want to discuss stuff other than SNES and Genesis, then make some fucking topics.

Other wise; fuck off, we're full.

>> No.3145449

>>3145419
Using the Reddit boogeyman to completely dismiss and put someone's opinion below yours is truly the 4chan version of Godwin's law.

>> No.3145451

>>3145443
hey, i wasn't the one advocating that 6th gen be posted here

>> No.3145454

>>3145448
>If you want more topics to discuss
>make topic about a 15 year old game
>NOT RETRO GTFO BACK TO /v/ U TRIGGERED MY CUTOFF DATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>3145451
Nice argument /v/.

>> No.3145457

I'm so fucking sick and tired of this Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis shit. WE need an entirely separate board for those two consoles alone because it's all anyone wants to shitpost about constantly and people attack each other like they are fucking paid marketers. I've read "THE SOUND" and "THE PROCESSING SPEED, BLAST PROCESSING" 100 fucking times in the past week and those are all different threads.

If I see one more fucking thread about the Sega Genesis audio quality, from a fucking GAMING BOX MADE IN 1989, I am going to kill someone.

>> No.3145459

>>3145430
>"UGH ACCEPT 6TH GEN PLS!!!!!" and "GENESIS IS BETTER THAN SNES AND ALL OF SNES GAMES ARE SHIT LOLZORAXIS"?
The thing is there was more than just that, I mean look at Castlevania threads. Those are a straight up nightmare. Final Fantasy is always dicey but they always have been and also the Zelda series. They all just kind of degrade over time. Not even going to mention the shoot 'em up general since they always seem to be at each others throats.

>> No.3145461

>>3145449

He's right, though. Demanding a removal of hostilities between brand fanboys is impossible unless you implement some kind of Reddit-like karma system.

>> No.3145462

NO ONE IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT FUCKING HALO

KIDS WHO PLAYED HALO IN 2001 ARE FUCKING 25 YEARS OLD NOW AND ALREADY POST ON THIS BOARD

>>3145461
It isn't hostility. A lot of is targeted shitposting, baiting, and trolling. The people actually just do it on purpose.

>> No.3145463

>>3145454

>make a thread about something past the cutoff date
>get made when people tell you to fuck off

Gee. It's almost like you could go and find somewhere else to discuss this stuff. But instead you wanna come here and force it onto a board that doesn't want it.

We're so terrible for having rules that you don't agree with. I'm sorry.

>> No.3145464

We should just have a board dedicated to each system. That's the only way we're going to reach harmony. :)

>> No.3145467

>>3145462
Halo 1 is an outdated piece of shit now, and the only thing anyone would talk about is memories from fucking 15 years ago and emulation.

Kind of like how that's all anyone talks about here to begin with now anyway.

>> No.3145469

>>3145454
>Nice argument /v/.
>I don't actually have any retorts left in my retort folder so I'll just call him a faggot instead
Sorry you don't agree with the board rules, but there is already a board that you can talk about 6th gen at.

>> No.3145470

>>3145463
>cutoff date

Oh you mean that arbitrary fucking bullshit hugbox date that allows people to shitpost all day long and non-stop about Genesis and Super Nintendo, but randomly allows the Dreamcast from 1999 to be "retro" but not the PS2 from 2000?

>> No.3145473

>>3145470
This anon has a point. We should lower the date to 1996 or 1997 to keep all of gen6 out of /vr/.

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3145474

We got a real winner now.

>> No.3145475

>>3145470
>and he says that I'm /v/
Look at your post. Look at it. You truly are a disgrace to this board, fucking hypocrite.

>> No.3145478

>>3145469
>>I don't actually have any retorts left in my retort folder so I'll just call him a faggot instead

Oh look, it's the savant who posted all this shit acting he had arguments to begin with.
>>3145451
>>3145437
>>3145417

It's your turn to refute nigger.

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>>3145474
UH OH

WHOOPS

>> No.3145482

>>3145470

>hugbox

Yep. You got it. We're a hugbox. So I'm sure this place is now terrible and you don't want to be here anymore. You could try going somewhere else, maybe? I'm sure we'll miss you.

>> No.3145484

>>3145478
Like you had any refutes to begin with except
>UGH HUGBOX CUTOFF DATE!!! ALLOW 6TH GEN PLZZZZ :(((((
Like I said, sorry you don't stick to the board rules.

>> No.3145486

>>3145473
The cutoff needs to either be the end of the 5th generation, or it needs to be the 6th generation. Period.

I don't give a fuck about these arbitrary cutoff dates if they don't make any sense at all. Allowing Dreamcast, really, and not GameCube or Game Boy Advance? What the fuck?

>> No.3145491

>>3145486

Because Dreamcast fags screamed, and wailed like you guys are doing, and the mods caved in and let them have their discussion here.

>> No.3145493

>>3145484
The board doesn't even stick to it's own fucking rules, because it not only has an arbitrary cutoff date that isn't true to the definition of retro (retro is 15 years and older, before becoming vintage, and then antique), but it allows the fucking Dreamcast, which is a 6th generation machine and clearly marks the beginning of actual online gaming people screech about the Xbox for.

>> No.3145494

>>3145462

Instead, we'll get

>MELEE IS NOT A FIGHTING GAME
>FFX was the last good Final Fantasy. Prove me wrong.
>Rise is cute. CUTE!
>Is Half Life 2 the most overrated game of all time?
>When will the mods allow the DS? It's basically a portable N64!

And similar threads because allowing 6th gen games will do nothing to change the tone of /vr/.

>> No.3145495

>>3145494
>It's basically a portable N64!

Not even close. It was more like a portable PS1 in terms of graphical capabilities.

>> No.3145496

>>3145493

Oh well. Aren't we just horrible? I mean 1999 for a cutoff date? That's so stupid. You should just hate us and leave us here to be stupid on our own. We may not survive without you, and you'd sure show us how bad and awful we truly are!

>> No.3145498

>>3145486
Dreamcast was always legal here, not sure why it had to be contested. The rule was always pre-1999 hardware and DC came out in 1998.

>> No.3145501

All this time complaining about there not being enough diversity in topics on /vr/ could be spent discussing stuff on /vr/.

>> No.3145502

>>3145498
That's the point. Pre-1999 hardware is fucking arbitrary and makes no sense. The Dreamcast is a 6th generation console.

>> No.3145504

>>3145494
>And similar threads because allowing 6th gen games will do nothing to change the tone of /vr/.

So it wouldn't change anything. You should allow it then, because your circlejerk board isn't getting any better.

Maybe if you push the cutoff date back even further and not allow discussion of PS1 games it would help.

>> No.3145507

>>3145502

Yep. It's arbitrary and terrible. You shouldn't waste time on us stupid plebs with our ridiculous rules. We do not deserve you here!

>> No.3145510

>>3145504

>because your circlejerk board isn't getting any better.

You assume that /vr/ cannot get any worse when it totally can.

>> No.3145515

>>3145501
I still wonder why the people who so desperately want PS2 even bother coming here. Apparently there isn't enough on here already for them to discuss, so why do they bother coming here?

I'm of the belief that allowing PS2 and XBOX will bring in a lot more users who only come to discuss those consoles and the things currently allowed for discussion will get pushed off the board.

>> No.3145516

>>3145504

If it's so terrible, then why do you want to come here so badly?

>> No.3145517

>>3145507
>us
>our
>we

You don't own the board you stupid faggot.

>> No.3145520

>>3145515

It'll be the same shit that's already happening. A few games will be discussed to death and the torpor will continue.

The problem isn't the number of consoles, or the cutoff dates, but that most of the userbase on this site thinks the site should cater to them. It's not like there isn't billions of topics to be had going all the way back to the Atari 2600 and prior all the way up to the Dreamcast. Not millions of games, stories, ads, tech, and such. Oh no. No. The reason why /vr/ isn't "good" for them is because it just doesn't have enough consoles to discuss. So adding three more will solve everything.

>> No.3145526

>>3145520
>So adding three more will solve everything.
Or, you know, lowering the cutoff date to the end of the 5th gen.

>> No.3145527

>>3145520
We've already discussed everything interesting about the 2600 to Dreamcast, besides there's 25 years worth of games from Pong to the PS2's introduction in 2000 so adding the 6th gen only gives an additional six years of games. I hardly see how that's upsetting the balance of anything.

>> No.3145537

>>3145527

I seriously doubt everything has been discussed here. On a board that has not been around for long, and moves as slowly as it has.

Adding "six years" of games to that, if that's your point, would be fully discussed and done with in a far shorter time thus not fixing the problem.

>> No.3145542

>>3145537
>I seriously doubt everything has been discussed here

Hence why I said everything interesting. I mean, nobody's gonna talk about crappy shovelware games, le no?

>> No.3145548

>15/81 posters
delete this shit mods

>> No.3145552

>>3145548
>15 posters
>implying that isn't a sizable chunk of our regular userbase

>> No.3145553

>>3145542
>nobody's gonna talk about crappy shovelware games, le no?
Man, I wonder why Hotel Mario's been discussed in the past.

>> No.3145559

>>3145542

I think that you're very convinced in your opinion of this board, but consider that if you really believe that we've already cleared 25 years of discussion down to only "crappy shovelware" how long do you think we'll last on another 6 years worth? This board has only been around since maybe 2013?

>> No.3145562

>>3145332

Why are you posting this here? Nothing productive will come of this thread; you're not talking to who makes the decisions required to get this pile of shit back on track. Not that you'll ever get the time of day from Hiroyuki; fucker barely understands English from what I hear, and really only maintains 4Chan out of wounded pride over losing 2Chan.

>> No.3145563

>>3145527
Except really 15 years because nobody seriously cares about pre-1985 stuff anyway.

>> No.3145565

Fight and argue about rules all you want, but the board went to shit ages ago and is never going to get better.

We used to have this thread every other month, then every few weeks, then every week and now it's almost every day. Mods might as well make it a rolling sticky at this point.

>> No.3145569

>>3145565
Or mods might as well clearly define this board with a cutoff date of 1996/5th gen, or allow 6th gen discussion.

>> No.3145571

>>3145569
Wouldn't make a fucking difference.

Rules clearly state anything before 2000, but shitheads like you act like that doesn't exist.

>> No.3145573

>>3145563

And even within those 15 years, only a small handful of games are usually discussed. Only a smattering of topics on other stuff happens here. That's the issue, not the cutoff date. People could easily make discussions about stuff, but tend to prefer that someone else does it for them.

That's the biggest issue here.

>>3145569

Or the cutoff date remains as it is, and the mods continue to do nothing about these flamewars over the rules.

>> No.3145575

>>3145571
>Rules clearly state anything before 2000,
OH REALLY

BECAUSE FROM WHAT I SEE, THE RULES MAKE IT LOOK LIKE AS GENERATIONS AGE, THEY BECOME RETRO

>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier. With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.

>> No.3145578

>>3145573
If you're that worried about the 6th gen, then we could just ban all discussion of Halo, GTA, and Squaresoft games. There's lots of obscure gems like Bully that don't attract the horrible cancer of those franchises.

>> No.3145580

>>3145573
>Or the cutoff date remains as it is, and the mods continue to do nothing about these flamewars over the rules.

Or they can clarify what the fuck
>With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro",

means

Does it mean when the Nintendo NX (9th Generation) is launched, the rest of the 6th generation becomes retro?

Why is there a 1 year difference between the Dreamcast and PS2 based upon the 8th generation, which launched in late 2012 early 2013?

>> No.3145581

>>3145575

Actually with a bit of reading comprehension, you'll see that it clearly states what is considered "Retro" for this board, and what isn't. It's a moot point, anyway. This is like the people who've been screaming and crying about seeing anime outside of /a/ on this site for well over a decade. The mods haven't stopped it, and I don't see them changing this board anytime soon.

So please stop. Please. Go somewhere else. Anywhere else. Or stay and discuss what is allowed. The board does not have to change because you want it to. That is selfish on your part, and not fair to the rest of us.

>> No.3145582

>>3145575
You're reading too much into it. It could easily mean:

>with the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the rules are now set in stone forever

>> No.3145584

>>3145581
Sorry, that does not compute. The rules clearly add in something extra with a comma,
" launched in 1999 and earlier. With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro",

First of all, that was unecessary to state, as the Dreamcast would have been considered "retro" with the previous 1999 rule. So they had to clarify that BECAUSE of a new generation of consoles, a 6th gen console is now retro.

So what the fuck is it?

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3145586

Can we please delete console war threads? That shit belongs on /v/.

Also retro isn't a age but a period of time, and for video games that time ends about 1999-2000. Personally I don't think dreamcast should be here.

>> No.3145587

>>3145580

I don't know, really. Maybe the mods don't give a flying fuck if the rules make sense to you. I know I don't. I really fucking don't.

>> No.3145590

>>3145582
What would the release of the 8th gen have to do with anything, then, if they already clarified pre 1999?

>>3145586
Retro is a time period over 15 years old, but not older than 50, in commonly understand vernacular. This allows distinctions between vintage and antique for grading of aged items and period pieces.

>> No.3145592

>>3145584
Generations are pretty stupid, imo.

>> No.3145594

>>3145584

Poorly worded rules that the mods have to this date not cared enough to fix.

Nor do they care enough to clarify, or speak to us on the matter.

But I have seen 6th Gen threads get purged by them. I think that alone states how they feel on the matter, at least.

>>3145586

I agree, and disagree on the Dreamcast. It doesn't bother me that it's here, but being here has led to so much confusion.

>> No.3145598

>>3145586
>Personally I don't think dreamcast should be here.
Wasn't it originally released in like 1998 though?

>> No.3145602

>>3145594
I guess it's just weird only having the dreamcast as it technically is 6th gen. The actual disscussion it creates is fine.

More then anything I just fucking hate the 12 "snes vs genesis" threads.

>> No.3145603

>>3145586
It's funny how the turn of the millennium is exactly the point where video games became not-retro. Some strange coincidence, isn't it?

>> No.3145604

>>3145332
>What the fuck happened to /vr/?!?!
>Last time I came here, it was filled with intelligent discussion and actually coherent threads. Now it's just RAMPANT SHITPOSTING!!!
It's a few things.

6th gen kids constantly acting like the Dreamcast kids acted, in hope they will get the same result.

Some Australian shitposter who got butthurt and now shitposts endlessly in every single thread that even remotely relates to NTSC/PAL or regions.

Console war retards. They were promptly kicked to the curb in the early days of /vr/, but with the influx of newfags who want to treat /vr/ like /v/, now any console war thread will get over 200 posts.

Collectors and emulators constantly arguing over pointless shit that no one else cares about. Collectors who feel the need to shit on emulators and call them poorfags so they can dickwave about their collection, and emulators who feel the need to shit on collectors and call them hoarders.

Some falseflagging faggots who pretend to be a part of any camp and act as annoying as possible.

JD can't stop shitposting in the GCCX threads, even though he keeps threatening to leave.(PROTIP:He'll never leave)

Assclowns who make shitpost bait threads because "It fosters conversation!"

Morons who make crap "This question could be answered by google, but I'll make a thread anyways, LOL!" threads because "It generates conversation!"

STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE threads.

Personal blog BUT I MENTIONED A VIDEOGAME SO IT'S /VR/! threads.

The "Overrated Retro Games" thread spam.

The one good mod/janitor we had quit after the Dreamcast BS, and the entire rest of the mod team visits this board maybe twice a week if that, letting shitposting run rampant, encouraging more shitposting.

And all the shitposting and crap threads made most of our good posters leave, leaving us with shitposters and /v/ posters.

Any questions OP?

>> No.3145605

>>3145594
Dreamcast was considered a bit of an in-between console for a while.

People didn't consider it 6th gen because it came out much earlier than the competition, but not quite 5th gen because of how late it was and the fact Saturn exists.

People settled on "5th and a half gen" for DC, but seems to have devolved into pure 6th gen for some reason.

I don't really understand, but the generation convention is pretty fucking stupid when you think about it.

>> No.3145607

>>3145590

Yes, it is. But the mods haven't made any attempts to adjust the board to fit that definition.

To be honest, I'm rather glad they do not. 1999 seems like a pretty good cutoff date to me, and the rest of you be damned.

And it's not so much that I don't want to discuss 6th Gen stuff. I really would.

But you people, and your demeanor, has made me dislike you completely. At this point I'm happy to see you not get your way simply out of spite.

Instead of petitioning the administration over this, you come here and make threads where you stamp your feet, make demands, and generally derail and shitpost. You know it's not allowed, but you think if you cry hard enough, that will change. All you do is just shit the board up in the process instead of going about this like reasonable adults.

I really dislike people like you. You have this mentality that everything should change to suit you, rather than you changing to suit the environment. You don't want to become part of a community, you want to demolish that community's rules, and ethics until it caters to you and your demands.

>> No.3145610

>>3145590
>Retro is a time period over 15 years old, but not older than 50, in commonly understand vernacular

Are we resorting to making shit up now? Stick to facts or you'll convince no-one.

>> No.3145612

>>3145586

>retro isn't age but a period of time

Agreed. Unfortunately given the circumstances, by 2020 the original Xbox and Gamecube as well as PS2 can no longer not be "retro" by the standard definition of "retro".

I know you hate the idea of halo threads here but yeah, its inevitable.

>> No.3145615

>>3145603
6th gen really was a massive change for gaming. Graphics, expectations, and game's budgets were now greater then ever and society was quite different.

>> No.3145617

>>3145612
>/vr2k/

2035.

>> No.3145620

>>3145332
It's mostly because they never updated the board. If they had let 6th gen stuff in the userbase wouldn't have dwindled and turned to trolls and fanatics.

>> No.3145624

>>3145604

This pretty much sums it up, though you forgot to mention that 4Chan in general has become a big ol' plate of ass-cheese.

>> No.3145626

>>3145607
>Instead of petitioning the administration over this, you come here and make threads where you stamp your feet, make demands, and generally derail and shitpost. You know it's not allowed, but you think if you cry hard enough, that will change. All you do is just shit the board up in the process instead of going about this like reasonable adults.
It worked for the Dreamcast, they really have no reason to believe it won't work for them.

>> No.3145627
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>>3145615
All of those changes started in the 5th generation. Sorry you're blind to how different the 5th gen is from the 4th, but it's clear as day.

>> No.3145629

>>3145482
>>3145496
this doesnt mean you win anon hah

youre embarrassing yourself even more

>> No.3145637

>>3145620
Not really. We got raided a few times and a bunch of them never left. Every time I visit /vr/ now I have a whole new set of threads to filter.

>> No.3145643

>>3145626

It works for nearly every board in a lot of ways.

Except for anime. That fight has never been won by the faggots, and that warms me heart, and soul.

But considering how long they've been bitching compared to how long the Dreamcastfags bitched should be telling enough. But you cannot reason with zealots.

>> No.3145645

>>3145607
>You don't want to become part of a community, you want to demolish that community's rules, and ethics until it caters to you and your demands.

That's probably what bothers me the most about all this, the belief that an established community should change its rules and alienate existing posters who are happy for the place as it is just to please those who demand it loudly enough. And, to add on top of that, it isn't like there is nowhere else where PS2 and XBOX discussion is allowed, it is just that that place apparently doesn't meet their standards.

>> No.3145646

>>3145626
Wasn't the DC change made within about a week of the board starting? You're talking as if it was a result of years of bitching like you've been doing.

>> No.3145649

>>3145610

He's entirely correct, though. Perhaps you could argue that videogames have some special uber-specific definition of "retro" (though I personally would think you're full of shit at that point), but in every other enthusiast field shit like "retro", "vintage", and "antique" have specific well-defined meanings which greatly affect the price at which you can charge and not be seen as a fucking crook.

>> No.3145650

>>3145646

No. He's on the right side of this. But what the 6th Gen idiots don't get is that the Dreamcast response came quickly. They've been bitching for 6th Gen for years now, to no avail. But they're zealots. They think they've already won, it's just us being obstinate.

>> No.3145654

>>3145575
This really makes it seem stupid that only the Dreamcast is allowed in the 6th gen

Ik this board wanted it but from an outsides pov it looks like maybe the mods decided that because they prefer it

>> No.3145656

>>3145627
>everyone ignores this, always

>> No.3145657

>>3145650
>we've won but the mods haven't updated the rules yet

>> No.3145658

>>3145649

Here's the idea:

It's what the board is founded on. That's what's going to happen here. It's how this place is setup.

Don't like it? GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!

>> No.3145659

>>3145646

>wasn't the DC change made within a week of the board starting

Hardly. I was here around the time of the board's inception and promptly left for a while a few months later only to come back towards the end of 2015 to the Dreamcast being added in as an exception

>> No.3145661

>>3145457
>split /vr/
Not sure if serious.

>> No.3145664 [DELETED] 

>>3145656
>Except for anime.

Yeah...nah.

>>3145627
>NSMBU, same old spin on Mario's 2D gameplay
>not retro

WiiU confirmed for retro.

>> No.3145665

>>3145457

This. I'm so fucking tired of the Genesis and Super nintendo shitposting

both consoles are great you fucking morons

>> No.3145667

>>3145646
>Wasn't the DC change made within about a week of the board starting?
Are you fucking NEW here? They were pushing to get it considered retro in April 2013, by May they were complaining "Dreamcast is retro, STUPID FUCKING MODS!" In June we finally got a sticky with the rules, stating that DC was NOT retro. That september, the DC kids started their shitposting campaign to get the DC considered retro, and in November of 2013 the rules changed to give the DC special snowflake status. Check the archives if you don't believe me.

But we both know you are a 6th gen falseflagger.

>> No.3145670

>>3145659
Should've just checked the dates.

>board founded March '13
>sticky posted Feb '14

Just under 11 months, but it feels like forever.

>> No.3145672

>>3145457

It's literally just one person making threads about the Genesis sound chip every time the previous one 404s. They always use Revolution X's soundtrack as an example.

>> No.3145674

Just rename /vr/ to /v20/ - 20th Century Gaming

>> No.3145678

>>3145674
>20th Century Gaming

When they dig up ancient Roman vidya I want it to be eligible.

Otherwise good.

>> No.3145681

Underage b& are too young to have played 6th gen games anyway; they don't care about that shit.

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>> No.3145686

>>3145674
best idea so far

>> No.3145687

>>3145654
Dreamcast is Gen 5-1/2 just as Colecovision is Gen 2-1/2.

>> No.3145694
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3145694

>Halo
>Kingdom Hearts
>Call of Duty
>Twilight Princess
>Final Fantasy X, X-2, XI, XII, DoC & CC

Yea, nah.

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3145702

Can we please consider the console war threads shitposting and request for them to be removed? That shit ruins this board, honestly probably worse then people only here to argue about 6th gen.

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3145703

>>3145674
←Official mascot system
A friendly computer for a friendly board.

>> No.3145704

>>3145694

>>3145578

>> No.3145706

>>3145702
Even if it doesn't break most rules, there's always that low quality post rule that serves as a catch-all for practically everything.

>> No.3145708

>>3145338

I see you're new here. Now kindly, gtfo.

OP is talking about you, btw. There used to be no one like you.

So ironic you think the shitposting is the people telling you to gtfo, when you brought and ARE the shitposting.

GTFO.

>> No.3145710

>>3145332
Because stagnation and boredom are what inevitably come from talking about
the same topic, the same games, from the same era, over and over again.

Eventually you're just repeating the same shit ad nauseum. So people turn to shitposting.

'Tis the way of the world.

>> No.3145713

>>3145706

We move so slow, and so little actually happens here that the staff doesn't pay much attention to us.

>> No.3145717

>>3145710

Why don't those people leave? Why don't we make them leave?

>> No.3145719

>>3145710
No. Most people were digging for obscure and lesser known games to talk about before the shitposting influx. Funny how you use the "Same old conversation" argument that the 6th gen kids use. GEE, I WONDER WHY YOU WOULD USE THAT ARGUMENT.

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3145720

This thread makes it pretty obvious that the bulk of the shitposting is coming from teenagers and early twenties people. Entitlement, narcissism and entryism are common among them, and they can't accept /vr/ not covering PS2 in much the same way that normies can't accept 4chan being an anime site and SJWs can't accept video games not being made for them. These days the norm is to try to take over other people's communities and force them to do things your way. And that results in cataclysmic amounts of shitposting and derailing.

The reason why the PS2 isn't "retro" is because it's effectively identical to a PS3 or PS4. The games are the same and so is the controller. There's nothing oldfashioned about it.

Of course there's a lot more shitposting than just >muh PS2 going on here, like having screaming matches over consoles that came out long before the /v/irgins here were even born, and making all sorts of shitty bait and other zero effort threads that are commonplace on /v/.

>> No.3145723

>>3145717

There's a new generation of 4chan users that think the whole site is for being a huge jackass ironically.

Getting them to leave is impossible. They're entrenched and will be until the fad wears off.

>> No.3145729

>>3145720
>The reason why the PS2 isn't "retro" is because it's effectively identical to a PS3 or PS4. The games are the same and so is the controller. There's nothing old fashioned about it.

Vat. A game from like 2002 is 14 years old. Gaming has changed a lot since the Vice City days.

>> No.3145731

>>3145658

>Getting this worked up over a section on a shitty Siamese cartoon board

Calm down there champ. You could, like, blow out your anal gasket or something.

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3145734

The problem with allowing 6th gen in is that it will provide more inroads for proxy console wars based on the current /v/ ones.

>>3145694
>talking shit about FFXII

>> No.3145738

>>3145720

I think it's because most of them don't come from the era of traditional forums and don't understand what made 4chan so appealing in the first place. To them 4chan is only what the mass media view of it is; a place of trolls and shitposting and being offensive for the sake of it. When they leave the high traffic, large population boards, or go to /a/, they are suddenly aghast when they find themselves staring face-to-face with the older 4chan (and internet in general) community. Our mentality on how online communities should, and have operated for decades stuns them, and all they can do is just throw hissy fits because anything else is outside of their realm completely.

The very notion of "You cater to us, we do not cater to you." is too foreign a concept for them.

>> No.3145739

>>3145723

I blame Reddit, but not for the usual reason. Reddit's /r/4chan is a place where people try to emulate a stereotypical 4channer (lots of "OP is a faggot") and a lot of them come back here.

>> No.3145741

>>3145704

You forgot Persona and WoW.

>> No.3145743

>>3145729
Yes, it's 14 years old. That doesn't change what I said. The age is not the point.

>> No.3145745

>>3145729

What separates Vice City from GTA5? Graphics?

>> No.3145746

>>3145739
I imagine those shits go to /b/ or /r9k/ where you can be a dumbass and be in good company.

>> No.3145749

>>3145739

You're probably absolutely right. I know of that cancerous shithole. Most of the shit they post there is screenshots of them purposefully shitting up places like /v/. Many of the ridiculous posts they share are just other Redditors acting like stereotypical "4channers" at the other Redditors.

>> No.3145750

>>3145717
> Why don't they leave?
Boredom? Insecurity? No better place to go?
Hell if I know.
> Why don't we make them leave?
How would you suggest we go about doing that on an anonymous board?
>>3145719
> GEE, I WONDER WHY YOU WOULD USE THAT ARGUMENT.
First time I've ever been on this board. I just saw the OP, considered what the
board is about, and came to the natural conclusion.

No need to get all offended. No need for all caps. No jimmies need be rustled.

> kids

I'm 32. Been gaming since 1987, so my bread-and-butter of gaming is the very topic of this board.

>> No.3145753

>>3145746

Don't forget the tumor that is /s4s/. It's very existence proves what younger millennials think 4chan is; ironic shitposting.

>> No.3145756

>>3145745
What separates Wind Waker from the original Zelda?

>> No.3145758

>>3145745
>>3145720
This is the guy who thinks GBA is retro because it has 2D graphics.

>> No.3145762

>>3145750
>First time I've ever been on this board.
Then why argue as if you know what's best for the board? You haven't been here, you don't know.

>> No.3145763

>>3145758
Only the second post is mine, and I never said anything about the GBA or that something is retro just because it has 2D graphics.

>> No.3145765

>>3145687
Dreamcast is not fucking 5-1/2

>> No.3145771

>>3145745
The games out now are a lot different in terms of design, consumer expectations, and features. Online connectivity was still in comparative infancy in the early 2000s, 3D platformers were still dominant, and consoles were designed for a CRT TV and lacked proper HD support. Nor was there any Blu-Ray support because it didn't exist yet.

6th gen games are also largely based in early 2000s pop culture/archetypes which are quite different from 2016's pop culture/archetypes.

>> No.3145779

>>3145771
Those are almost entirely peripheral issues (resolution and optical disc capacity are important differences? Really?).

>> No.3145781

>That retard who said Dreamcast is 5-1/2

The Dreamcast was an amazing machine. It had smooth 3D worlds and high 480p resolution, with incredible texture quality. It's incredible to think games on it like Shenmue are 16 years old.

>> No.3145782

>>3145779
Would you say NES and SNES are from distinct eras or the same era? They both use cartridges but the latter has more advanced sound/graphics (but still primarily 2D scrollers).

>> No.3145783

>>3145756

You can tart up the textures and shaders on Wind Waker, release it on the Wii U and have it pass for a modern game. You can't do that with OoT. 5th gen games have been left behind in the remaster boom.

>> No.3145785

>>3145781
>mfw this underage teenager who doesn't realize that once the PS2 was out, Sega officially threw up the white flag because the Dreamcast had no chance whatsoever of competing

The poor thing, it was more powerful than the 5th gen consoles, not powerful enough to compete with 6th gen consoles.

>> No.3145789

>>3145783
>you can't enhance the textures on OOT

Whut.

>> No.3145795

>>3145782
The Atari 2600 and SNES are both now "retro" regardless of differences in technology and games.

>> No.3145796

>>3145762
> Why argue as if you know what's best for the board?

The OP didn't ask what was best for the board. He or she listed a
series of gripes about what the board's become, describing what most
threads and posts are about.

Based on that, and the purpose of the board, I drew the conclusion that
stagnation was a likely (if not solo) culprit.

Did I make an assumption? Absolutely. Was it necessarily fair? Probably not.
But given that, by your and other posters admissions, the same old arguments
keep popping up, I'm not convinced I was that far off the mark. The board keeps
arguing over the same thing. That's textbook stagnation.

Maybe a change could help. What should that change be? I dunno. Maybe the topic should take into account games from a certain length of time in the past, rather than a
very specific era? Maybe the board should take up discussing modern attempts at
paying homage to older games?

>> No.3145801

>>3145795
Ok but he's arguing that peripherals and disc capacity aren't enough to put consoles in a different era and that 6th gen constitutes all games from 2001 to present.

>> No.3145810

>>3145801
I never said that.

>> No.3145813

>>3145796
>stagnation
There is no shortage of retro games out there. If I were to start a thread about strategies for Mortal Kombat on the Genesis it would get replies the same as if I started a thread about Sierra point and click adventures. There are seemingly infinite topics of discussion for this board. There is no stagnation.

>> No.3145814

>>3145801
The PS2 is fundamentally the same as the PS3 and PS4. There are no major differences. The PS2 still represents modern video games. That's the point.

>> No.3145819

>>3145801
I know where he's coming from. I've seen it before. He's some bitter unemployed 40 year old manchild who hasn't kept up with video games since the Clinton years and in his mind, all the stuff from the PS2 onward all runs together like a blur. Of course if you actually stopped and analyzed things, you'd notice that the early 2000s was quite a long time ago and a lot has changed since then.

His thinking is something like "All 2001- stuff is all the same Cawad00dy/Halo shit to me I can't tell one game apart from another anymore." so that's why he says there's no functional difference between 2002's games (14 fucking years ago, an eternity of time) and the present.

And it may also be that as you get older, time seems to pass quicker so he may not exactly be aware of how long ago the early 2000s was. He probably also thinks it was like two years ago when it wasn't.

>> No.3145828

>>3145819
Can you describe what has changed from FPS games in 2001 and FPS games in 2016? Or any other genre really? I like 6th gen but 6th gen game design is largely the same as what we have today. Yes, it was a while ago, but stylistically 6th gen has a lot more in common with modern games than with pre-2000 stuff.

(this is my first post ITT, I am not the other guy making this argument)

>> No.3145832

>>3145819
>He's some bitter unemployed 40 year old manchild
If you have to immediately resort to something like this it just shows that you don't actually have any leg to stand on.

>the early 2000s was quite a long time ago and a lot has changed since then
>14 years ago
The passage of time does not automatically change anything.

>> No.3145835

>>3145819

I'll have you know that I'm a bitter unemployed 23 year old manchild who hasn't kept up with videogames since Obama's last election.

My point was that there's an unbroken line, in terms of what games are made and how they play, going from the PS2 to the PS4.

>> No.3145837

>>3145832
Do you think a game from 2003 is at all like a game from 1988? (15 years prior)

>> No.3145840

Okay. I have a solution. I feel it will satisfy both sides of the argument.

Once the very last 6th Gen game is 15 years old, then 6th Gen will be considered "Retro" for the purpose of "/Vidya Retro/"

Deal?

>> No.3145841

>>3145785
This is the kind of stupid shitposting I'm sick of.
Underage, Kid, Child, Children, etc.

Here's your bite.

>> No.3145845

>>3145837
Do you think a game from 1995 is at all like a game from 1988?

>> No.3145848

>>3145840

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2014

That means in 2029, we can discuss 6th Gen on /vr/.

Or if that is not acceptable, then we can go with the end of the PS2's lifespan which was discontinued in 2013. So 2028 the 6th Gen will have been over for 15 years.

>> No.3145851

>>3145837
A game from 2003 could be the same, but most likely isn't. What are you getting at?

>> No.3145852

PS2s are very outdated and old, true. However, the big problem is that while the console itself is 17 years old, its primary commercial lifespan lasted through 2006 which is only 10 years ago.

I think if we're going to argue anything, it's more that the last 6th gen games are just a decade old rather than the asinine argument made by >>3145814 that a console designed during the Clinton years is still comparable to modern ones hardware wise.

>> No.3145854

>>3145837
You claimed there is no functional difference between a game made in 2016 and a game made in 2002 despite 15 years separating them. But if we were in 2002, would you make the same argument that those games were unchanged from a 1988 title.

>> No.3145857

>>3145852

It kept being produced by Sony until 2013.

It's still too new.

Xbox and Gamecube will be retro before it will be.

>> No.3145860

4chan made a huge mistake making /vr/ include the beginning of the shit generation of gaming (PS1/N64). So it attracted dumbfuck little kids that still believe their childhood games were actually good.

>> No.3145862

>>3145857
>Xbox and Gamecube will be retro before [the ps2] will be
Oh boy, I can't wait to talk about Soul Calibur 2, BUT NOT THE VERSION WITH HEIHACHI IN IT CUZ THAT'S NOT RETRO!

>> No.3145863

>>3145854
Video games have not continued to progres at a constant, linear rate, just like cinema hasn't. At some point they both matured.

There are a great deal more differences between 1988 and 2002 than there are between 2002 and 2016. In 1988 3D games hardly existed aside from flight simulators and such (using vector graphics).

>> No.3145864

>>3145860
Dude, you'd be 30 if you were 10 when the N64 first came out.

>> No.3145865

>>3145854

I can't think of any games from those time periods that are that similar. Maybe a handful of Nintendo games, space simulations (which are mostly based off Elite) and Dragon Quest.

>> No.3145867

>>3145863

>>3145758

>> No.3145870

>>3145862
Good, because you'll never be able to talk about any version on this board.

>> No.3145873

>>3145852
I bet he also thinks a PC from the early 2000s is the same as a modern PC. Aside from USB ports, they really aren't, a lot has changed. I have a Pentium 4 box with XP Pro and it definitely is not close to a current machine.

>> No.3145875

>>3145870
I was just saying that it's really stupid to allow discussion of some consoles in a gen but not others based on end date, because they still shared much of their library.

We had this problem with the Dreamcast back when it wasn't allowed, there's an image floating around that I don't have but basically there were a bunch of games that came out on DC before PS1 and we could talk about the newer PS1 versions but not the older DC versions.

>> No.3145878

>>3145864
I was 25 when the N64 came out.

If you weren't old enough to be an adult when the N64 came out, you don't belong on /vr/, honestly.

>> No.3145879

I'd argue that early 6th gen is quite similar in design to the 5th gen library (just check out the games released for the PS2 before Christmas 2001), but yeah, after a certain point they started to be designed like modern games still are.

>> No.3145883

>>3145867
I never said anything about the GBA. What is your point?

>> No.3145884

>>3145878
Like the other guy said, >>3145819

>> No.3145886

>>3145883
You're using 3D graphics as a yardstick to judge whether a console is modern or not.

>>3145879
That's a little bit of an asspull because the early NES games look like Colecovision stuff while Kirby's Adventure looks like a SNES game.

>> No.3145890

>>3145884
That's a bunch of bullshit, really, and just an excuse little millennials use when people actually attack their beloved little shit games.

Look, it's a FACT that in the mid-90s, there was a shift to style-over-substance games to lure in non-gamers of the time. Mario 64, MGS, the N64 Zelda games, all the shallow fucking PS1 games, etc. The gameplay wasn't there, but there was a style to them that attracted gamers and kept them while real gameplay in games was beginning to decline sharply.

THIS was the beginning of the non-retro era, and your rose-tinted glasses isn't going to change this.

>> No.3145891

We're only having this argument because the mods haven't weighed in one way or the other.

>> No.3145893

>>3145886
I never did any such thing. It was clearly an example of how things are very different between 1988 and 2002.

>> No.3145894

>>3145886

I too remember the mostly monochrome SNES games with major graphical glitches.

>> No.3145895

>>3145878
https://desustorage.org/vr/thread/3106997/#q3107286
https://desustorage.org/vr/thread/3106997/#q3107307

Oh look, it's this troll again.

>> No.3145901

>>3145895
Looks like it.

Is it me, or are all these threads literally the same 3-4 people posting the same exact replies over and over and over.

>> No.3145902

>>3145895
>troll
I'm not even following whatever virus-laden links you pasted, but I'm not a troll. I'm a fucking gamer that's been one since the goddamn Pong days, and if you can't accept that things have SIGNIFICANTLY changed in gaming in the mid-90s, you are not only blind but stupid.

I challenge EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU to put away your modern shit and play pre-1995 games EXCLUSIVELY for at least a year. Then come back and tell me your stupid shit modern games suck.

>> No.3145903
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3145903

/vr/ has ran out of new things to talk about

>> No.3145904

>>3145891

The mods have weighed in. There's a big fat stickied thread at the top of page 0, saying "hey guys, this is what's retro, this is what's not, thanks."

It's just underage b& flooding in from /v/ going BUT WHAT ABOUT MY NOSTALGIA, IT'S NOT FAIR

>> No.3145906

>>3145904

They have not weighed in. The question people here are asking is "Will the rules of /vr/ ever be updated in the future?"

>> No.3145907

>>3145902
>been one since the goddamn Pong days

Pong for the PlayStation is actually a pretty fun game. Did you play it on PS2 or PS3? Or emulate?

>> No.3145912

Here's how we make /vr/ great again
>ban australian IPs
>3 day bans for Rondo vs Dracula X shitposting
>swear in the rest of 6th gen consoles to give the board more life and new discussion

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>>3145902
Fine, I will post the screencaps here. These posts read exactly like yours, which appears to indicate that this troll and you are one and the same.

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>>3145913

>> No.3145916

>>3145912
>swear in 6th gen

If that's the alternative, I'm fine with /vr/ being subjected to this shit forever more.

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>>3145913

>> No.3145925

>>3145916
Why? The people who grew up with 6th gen are now or have been adults. You don't think it'd be refreshing to debate the merits Silent Hill 2 vs something more /vr/s speed now, like Clock Tower? Not every 18-28 year old is a shitposter

>> No.3145926

>>3145902
>I'm not even following whatever virus-laden links you pasted, but I'm not a troll. I'm a fucking gamer that's been one since the goddamn Pong days, and if you can't accept that things have SIGNIFICANTLY changed in gaming in the mid-90s, you are not only blind but stupid.
You ain't been playing games since no Pong days, kiddo. But maybe you found your uncle's Intellivision in the attic.
>I challenge EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU to put away your modern shit and play pre-1995 games EXCLUSIVELY for at least a year. Then come back and tell me your stupid shit modern games suck.
Child plz, I probably have more knowledge of pre-95 stuff in one finger than your entire body.

>> No.3145927

>>3145925
I respectfully disagree.

>> No.3145928

>>3145925
People born after 1985 aren't human anyway.

>> No.3145929

>>3145926
Ok fine, shitbag. What year were you born in if I'm so underage and you're not.

>> No.3145930

>>3145928
Millennial here, can confirm.

#6thgenonvr

>> No.3145931

>>3145927
Would you mind elaborating on why you disagree or linking to a post earlier ITT that does?

>> No.3145934

>>3145929
>>3145926
Post drivers licenses, old-timers

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3145936

>daily "where's my 6th gen" thread

JUST

>> No.3145940

I was born in 88 if you wanted to know. The thing is I wasn't even alive for Atari, yet I probably know far more about that shit than this Down's babby >>3145878 who was probably born in 1997.

Like fuck you were 25 when the N64 came out.

>> No.3145941

>>3145931
I'm kind of set in my ways, floodgate mentality I suppose. The board has suffered in a lot of ways. There are a lot of really shit threads that technically stay within the rules, more now than ever.

I don't think for a second that changing the rules would alleviate any of that. If anything I think we'd need less, not more. Nazi moderation instead of anything goes.

But of course that's not going to happen, but neither is 6th gen being allowed. As bad as it might be now, /vr/ will only get worse.

>> No.3145946

Holy fucking shit. It's obvious that in 2016, moving into 2017 where we are going to see the release of the Nintendo NX, PS4K and whatever Xbox comes out with, that 2001 and the 6th gen are retro consoles.

Holy shit can we stop arguing about this?

You either have a "Pre 2000 only" board, or you have a "retro game" board.

I don't give a fuck what arbitrary assignments you give, retro is 15 years old.

>> No.3145947

>>3145934
Don't have one. It was suspended recently (don't ask, just crooked cops fucking me over)

>> No.3145948

>>3145941
>As bad as it might be now, /vr/ will only get worse.

It can't get worse because the SNES/Genesis shitposting has reached an all time high. It's maddening and I'm sick of seeing it daily.

>> No.3145949

>>3145878
>25 when the N64 came out
>now 45 year old virgin who whines on anonymous vietnamese street-performing board

I'd have heroed at no later than 30 if I were in your position.

>> No.3145950

>>3145946
Well, some guy in the archived thread said that a car has to be 25 years old to get antique tags.

Which is a little scary because a Chevy Corsica can now be taken to a classic car show.

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>>3145860
But I like talking about Saturn games ;_;

>> No.3145954

>>3145948
>it cannot get worse than this

I have said the same thing myself many times and I've always been wrong. If you start to think it's picking up again, it's just you getting used to how bad it is, then it'll get worse again.

>> No.3145957

>>3145950
It's not antique if it's not over 100 years.

Vintage is typically considered 20 years old.

Historic Motor Vehicles are different.

>> No.3145958

>>3145949
He appears to be a victim of fetal alcohol syndrome.

>> No.3145960

>>3145948
>the SNES/Genesis shitposting has reached an all time high
In contrast, this is what happens when an actual adult looks back on old system wars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbW5ovQtWh8#t=25m05s

>> No.3145961

>>3145647
And now we have a new persistent troll to deal with, this Apple employee.

>> No.3145963

Man, I wish we still had that dude who posted the daily X-COM threads and his wacky stories about fighting aliens.

>> No.3145964

>>3145946

We have the Pre-2000s board.

Deal with it.

>> No.3145965

>>3145960
Any of these stupid fucks that say the F word, not fuck, and say any of those famous abbreviations should just be banned for 3 days.

>> No.3145967

I don't personally object to allowing 6th gen discussion however the problem is that retro games need to be 15 years old and the last 6th gen games are just 10 years old.

>> No.3145974

>>3145967
We go by the age of the console partially to simplify things because no-one is going to check if a particular game came out before the cut-off. Plenty of old consoles still have new releases in 2016, some of them good.

>> No.3145989

I love how the argument has devolved at this point.

>"Why wont you let me discuss my games here? Your rules are arbitrary!"
>"Because fuck you, that's why. Go away."
>"What the fuck man, why do you care so much about a Malaysian Laser Charging board!?"

>> No.3145992

>>3145989
Rules are rules. People who can't accept that need to grow up.

>> No.3146004

>>3145992

Yeah. Besides, the consensus for /vr/ has always been overwhelmingly in favor of the 1999 cutoff. It shows the maturity level of the people that come here and demand we chance to accept them. Rather than accepting that we've decided on something, and want it to remain so.

I'd love to discuss 6th Gen with them, but as I've said before; fuck'em. Their insolent behavior has made me despise them fully. I hope the cutoff remains in place simply out of spite.

>> No.3146008

>>3146004
Then rename the board.

>> No.3146010

>>3146008

No.

Fuck off.

>> No.3146016

>>3145338
There, you did it again. Seek professional help.

>> No.3146020

>>3146010
pre 2001 is retro now.

If you want just pre-1999 name the board Pre-1999 Video Games, or PV
>>3146016
First post is best post in this case, you fuck off.

>> No.3146025

>>3146020
Where do you live? Psychiatrists can't be that expensive.

>> No.3146028

>>3146020
/vr/ = Retro Games but we really mean anything that came out in 1999 or before, we just call it retro to trigger people who think everything is "retro".

>>3146025
Most places have laws that prevent certifiable people from being employed, for your protection as well as their own.

>> No.3146035

>>3146020

No. Fuck off.

>> No.3146048

>>3146020

2001-20XX will never be retro.
It will just become "Old Shit"
But not "Retro".

>> No.3146063

>>3145967

It's actually 6. The last major 6th gen game was Silent Hill: Shattered Memories.

>> No.3146072

>>3145338

This thread was shit from this point on

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>>3146063
More recent than that actually

>> No.3146076

>>3146004
>I'd love to discuss 6th Gen with them, but as I've said before; fuck'em. Their insolent behavior has made me despise them fully. I hope the cutoff remains in place simply out of spite.
This is the exact reason why I hate the DC kids. I was in favor of letting the DC in, right up until the shitposting campaign. They lost all respect from me with that shit. Self-centered shits.

>> No.3146078

>>3146075

I meant major as in games /vr/ might talk about.

>> No.3146085

>B-BUT THE LAST OFFICIAL PS2 GAME CAME OUT IN 2013 iTS TOO NEW

Agreed. We also should ban discussion of PS1 games (last game that cam out was in 2004, that's not retro), N64 (2002), Sega CD (2006!)and the Neo-Geo (last game was also in 2004)

>> No.3146091

>>3146028
>we just call it retro to trigger people who think everything is "retro".

Nigger, you didn't do shit. That cuck moot choose the name.

>> No.3146092

>>3146091
Then go bitch at him instead of us.

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>>3146085

This is a horrible argument; most of those had huge gaps where no games were released, unlike PS2

Doesn't matter anyways, it's about game styles etc.

Keep Persona sluts and melee fags off /vr/

>> No.3146097

>>3146092
Are you new, retarded, or both?

>> No.3146098

>>3146076

I didn't make it to /vr/ until after the DC shitfest. I think I peeked in a few times prior, but never really spent enough time until 2014 when I was getting back into collecting retro games again.

I'll be honest, I think the DC inclusion is spurious at best, but there are -some- legitimate arguments for it. The fact that it came out during the 5th Gen, and spent the majority of it's short success during the period prior to the release of the PS2 in western markets gives it good reason to be included in /vr/.

However at the same time, it really was a 6th Gen console. Allowing it has let to too many allowances for the current crop of shitposters to remain here making stupid arguments. I get it. /v/ is shit. But /vr/ has it's own problems, and allowing a bunch of immigrants onto the board that have already shown that they hate the board, and it's culture is not going to help things at all. It'll just make things worse. I think the only reason they want to come here is to get away from /v/'s bullshit. But /v/ could surely use some people making threads that aren't shit. The least they could do is try instead of saying "Oh my god there's never any threads!" Nobody's stopping them from making the damn threads. Same goes for this board and the complaints of "We have nothing to talk about!" Bullshit. We have 25 good years of content to sprawl over. 35 in reality. There's no shortage of topics to cover. People just aren't making the threads for it.

>> No.3146101

>>3146094
>game styles

Can't do that I'm afraid, or every other shitty mobile or indie game will try to get in.

>> No.3146103

>>3146094
>This is a horrible argument

I agree, hence why I made it to show retarded the rest of you are for making it.

Never have I seen such a dense group of retarded niggers on a board.

>> No.3146105

>>3146097
>complain to /vr/
>nothing happens
>complain to moot
>nothing happens

See? Same thing. Go punish him instead of us.

>> No.3146106

>>3145396
>People never really cared about the cutoff and things were comfy as fuck here until "b-but /v/ told me to post here" people started coming, paired with a ship of trolls, and /vr/ isn't really the brightest board when it comes to trolls.
This. Funny how the anons from the 6th gen troop don't seem able to notice it themselves. Or they probably do and do it anyway to shit on the board because why can't muh childhood be retro tooooooo.

>> No.3146107

>>3146105
Why would I take anything up with him when that won't do anything? At least here there are mods who see shit.

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>>3146094
There is already waifu cancer on /vr/ anyway, and it's not like the retro Personas didn't have waifus as well.

>> No.3146110

>>3146107
Nothing is going to change no matter who you complain to. The autistic janitor sees these threads and sometimes deletes them. Mods will do nothing but laugh at you no matter how loud you scream.

>> No.3146115

>>3146107

And how long have you been complaining about this?

Have you seen anything come of it other than 6th Gen threads being purged?

People like you are the reason why the term "Weeaboo" was used as a wordfilter for "Wapanese."

And even still you just don't get it.

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this thread was a shitpost b8 thread.
snake would rather blow a pony with a rocket up his ass than read through this,

>> No.3146162

>thread about video games
>~10 replies
>"h-hey guys is ps2 retro yet" thread
>282 replies
>even with such a big thread there are only 40 unique IPs
>everybody on /vr/ is an insufferable asshole

>> No.3146164

guys tell me how the /crt/ thread is ruining /vr/

64 posters
thats pretty much the entirety of /vr/

>> No.3146169

>>3146162
>40 unique IPs
Damn's that's like every poster in /vr/

>> No.3146171

>>3146164
prob the regulars, you hardly see a thread over 100.

>> No.3146184

For those of you who want to discuss 6th gen here, think of it like this: forget the word retro. It's the golden age of gaming. Like comics had a golden age, and a silver, bronze and modern age. This is where we talk about the beginning of gaming. Silver age can never be golden age, likewise 6th gen and beyond will never be retro.

>> No.3146197

>>3146184
>golden age abruptly ended at midnight new years eve 1999

it can include the year 2000 anon

fuck everything past that

>> No.3146208

>>3145332
We ran out of shit to discuss, any utterance of 6th gen despite it being dead for almost a decade is met with either "BYUT ASHDnshb PSE"TTWWWOOOOO WTILL HAS GAMES COMING OUTUUTUTTTT!!" or "DO YOU WANT THE FUCKING HALO 12 YEAR OLDS IN HERE!?"

I just come here to shitpost because this board needs to burn to ashes.

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>>3146197
Dremcaast is too new, so you can take that cookie

>> No.3146218

>>3146162
Every post is one step closer to the bump limit. Not that that means anything, since someone will end up making another thread right away.

>> No.3146252

>>3146162

40 unique IPs!?

OH MY FUCKING GOD!

ARE YOU TELLING ME PEOPLE ARE MAKING MORE THAN ONE POST IN A THREAD!?

I just don't even. This is 4chan omg u liek just make one post then move on omg i dont even

>> No.3146257

>>3146213
Wait what. Is that Fred Durst with a Rei doll?

>> No.3146262

>>3146257
Anime is a strong drug.

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>>3146257
ya


limited edition Durstcast

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>>3146269

>> No.3146273

>>3146252
>296 replies
>43 posters

>still thinking this is normal or acceptable

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>>3146271

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>>3146274
doesn't get more retro than limp bizkit shilling your broadband gaming service

>> No.3146282

>>3146273
thread started 7.5 hours ago
300 posts
40 posters

(40/300)/7.5=1 post per hour per ip. You a shit at math

>> No.3146287

>>3146282
Where I mention hours, ah who cares, you're just part of this autistic cancer.

>> No.3146291

>>3146282
And it's still one of the fastest growing threads on /vr/ that needs to be pruned for being offtopic spam.

>> No.3146326

>>3145783
>What is OoT for the 3DS
Literally the same game as the original OoT with better graphics.

>> No.3146330

>>3145624
The normies have flooded 4chan since the memes have been plastered all over mainstream media

>> No.3146347

>>3146273
>>3146287


>WAAAAAAAAAAAAH! PEOPLE MADE MORE THAN ONE POST! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

>> No.3146350

>>3146273

That means an average of 7 posts per person.

What a fucking tragedy. How dare these people post 7 times in one thread! What a bunch of fucking Nazis!