Playing emulators with touch controls

[Anonymous No.2653354]

What do you Guys think about playing emulators on a smart phone can it Work or not?

[noko No.2653362]

i doubt it :/ the lack of physical keys is the main issue

[Anonymous No.2653365]

>>2653354
I wouldn't want to play anything action based like that, but for strategy or RPGs it's probably fine. Those aren't about controls.

[Anonymous No.2653367]

>>2653354
Pokemon? Played with touch screen controls?
Impossible!

[Anonymous No.2653375]

>>2653354
I didn't care for it when I used a friend's phone. It works for certain games like RPGs, adventure games, and puzzles, but playing something that demands quick responsive inputs like a fighting game or a plaformer is tough. I use a sony xperia for my phone emulating it has a controller built into it. its great. Though there are other ways to have buttons with a phone or tablet.

[noko No.2653379]

turn based; yeah. click this click that ect ect
its not a game, its a task.

i loved Links Awakening on the handheld GameBoy, and on PSP i still played the game.

it just dosn't feel right on a mobile fone

>feel right /
Necessity is the mother of invention; Ergonomics was the father of design

[Anonymous No.2653384]

It's why I don't use my phone for emulation: lack of physical buttons and fingers getting in the way of the action.

If you are gonna emulate off your phone, at least use a physical controller for it.

[Anonymous No.2653392]

>>2653379
Are you implying that turn based games can't contain strategy or actual gameplay?

[noko No.2653405]

>>2653392
implying that only turn based games truly work.

i would love to have FF12 on my mobile

the issue that mobiles have is the input; platform/live explotration games need physical inputs to feel natural. having a touch D-Pad or touch analog stick doesn't feel right, doesn't work right, and sadly will never be right.

[Anonymous No.2653426]

>>2653405

I agree with what you're saying about not having buttons or a dpad being an issue this is my opinion. >>2653365 It was just this bit I took exception to.

>turn based; yeah. click this click that ect ect
>its not a game, its a task.

I would say turn based can be just as much a game as something action based.

[Anonymous No.2653431]

This thread is dumb.

[Anonymous No.2653464]

Even turn/tile based feels awful, so many times in pokemon I went the wrong way and got into a random battle because my thumbs kept missing a directional input. If you're more careful and patient it's not impossible or anything but good god is it better to look at just the screen and not ever your thumbs to make sure you're pressing on something right.

[Anonymous No.2653516]

I find trying to use a virtual dpad to be hell on the thumbs.
I think it's because I roll about rather than slide or whatever you're supposed to do, so on a fixed surface it's using areas of the thumb that I normally wouldn't on an actual movable pad.

[Anonymous No.2653569]

>>2653464
Time based RPG like chrono trigger will fuck you over too by making the wrong selections in the small time frame, plus catching the rat in the future is a huge bitch as it is and I thought I would have to give up the whole game when playing on my phone.

[Anonymous No.2653627]

I hate it tbh.
The clickity click of the buttons/keys and the sensation of pressing them is part of the vidya experience, especially when playing older games.
Touch-screen a shit, the day mechanical buttons are done away with for touch bullshit is the day vidya dies.

[Anonymous No.2653661]

i had problems while playing Wario World 3, especially during the last boss fight

[Anonymous No.2653735]

Except with pic related, I can't.

[Anonymous No.2653765]

>>2653735
i hate everything about this image

[Anonymous No.2653769]

>>2653765
Why ?

[Anonymous No.2653823]

>>2653354
only turned based games work

[Anonymous No.2653826]

>>2653823
Basically this. I use a custom controller in retroarch that let's me swipe down for a and up for b with a haptic 8way dpad. It works fine for turn based and simple platformers.

[Anonymous No.2653845]

[Anonymous No.2654169]

>>2653354
>can it Work
Sure it can work it just works very poorly.

[Anonymous No.2654181]

>>2653845
Seems big, but I like that it has shoulder buttons. I just ordered this one, only $4 we'll see if it's worth a shit when it gets here.

[Anonymous No.2654215]

>>2654181
Where can I get one of these thing ?

[Anonymous No.2654370]

>>2653845
>>2654181

[Anonymous No.2654384]

>>2654215
micro center sometimes

[Anonymous No.2654391]

>>2653354
I beat Astro Boy for the GBA on my S5 with touch controls. It wasn't too bad.

[Anonymous No.2654463]

>>2654370
You will hold them with 2 fingers.
Thumb and point.
Size isn't a issue.

[Anonymous No.2654539]

>>2653362
Yeah, I hate mobile games and only play on my psp for emulated games. I just hate not having buttons

[Anonymous No.2654542]

Rpgs ate perfectly acceptable to me but platformers, shooters, etc are literally unplayable

[Anonymous No.2654548]

>>2653354
Just play it on your pc, mang.
That shit hurts your fingers after 4 hours+ of gameplay

[Anonymous No.2654549]

>>2653354
It's pretty shit; acceptable for games with no action component like 4th-gen JRPGs, but not much else.

[Anonymous No.2654563]

>>2653354
Can't do it. Not having tactile feedback completely fucks me over. You know something's wrong when you keep running into the first goomba or falling into a random pit because the controls are just that terrible.

[Anonymous No.2654647]

i mash the buttons so goddamned hard when i'm playing racing games, that i'd probably fuck up the screen playing just one level of F-ZERO.

[Anonymous No.2654648]

Christian Whitehead did a pretty good job with controls for the sonic ports, but then, that's really just left and right with an action button.

NBA Jam had a decent control system, where anywhere touched on the left of the screen would become your 'joystick', so if you missed the exact placement of the stick, it would move to where your thumb now is, allowing you to slide to the direction you want.

Street Fighter 4 seemed to work well too. Customize where you put your buttons.

When you need to switch between buttons, like A/B a lot you'll lose your place a lot, which is bad for 'quick' games.
It's not impossible, but I think emulators just go for a quick solution, making buttons at X instead of a range of X +1 to +5 or something.

I also have a personal problem where I really push into the screen as if it were a controller, which isn't so good.

[Anonymous No.2654726]

>>2654648
Does this port have real widescreen (more of the game world is actually rendered) or is it just stretched to fit the screen?

[Anonymous No.2654732]

>>2654726
More of the world is rendered! It honestly surprised me. These are the definitive versions of the game, unless you're me who usually sticks to the vanilla unless there's little difference between ports.

[Anonymous No.2654747]

>>2653354
It's mostly only good for turn based jrpgs. I usually use my phone to replay pokemon games. I did just beat Donkey Kong for GB and made it to Mike Tyson on Punchout on my phone but don't really recommend it.

[Anonymous No.2654748]

>>2654726
real widescreen, as far as I'm aware
http://christianwhitehead.com/?page_id=51

[Anonymous No.2655031]

Yeah, but it has to be games that require you to do as less instant actions as possible.

So RPG with turn battles are the perfect fit to emulate, since you can take your time to make decisions.

[Anonymous No.2655278]

>>2654732
>>2654748
That's really interesting, it's pretty rare that these ports of retro games to mobile actually do more than put them in an emulator with a bad GUI and call it a day. Thanks for the replies.

[Anonymous No.2655317]

I could deal with a Gameboy emulator since the system was nearly the same shape a phone is nowadays, and there are some emulators that put the buttons where they would be with the 'screen' above them where your fingers don't block it.

Still, I'd need to be able to resize the buttons. Without being able to feel them they need to be bigger, so you don't end up pressing the wrong one.

People talk about how bad ebooks are compared to the real thing, and it's even worse with games.

[Anonymous No.2655818]

>>2654181
The pic makes it look a little bigger I think.

I got mine on Amazon for $12.99, with Prime shipping. It's on eBay cheaper, but ships from China.

I like mine for what it is. Buttons are mushy, but it's fine for casual games. I carry my keys on a belt loop already, so the extra bulk doesn't matter to me. But it could just as easily be carried in a pocket.

[Anonymous No.2655997]

>>2655031
This, I played FF tactics, Advance wars, Pokemon ect just fine on my phone, but sonic/Mario ect are unplayable

[Anonymous No.2657103]

>>2654648
An honest overview like this is rare. It's nice to see even if the subject matter isn't supposed to be here.

[Anonymous No.2657113]

>>2653354
>Can it work or not?
As in emulator functionality, mobile is better than PSP. It's the touchpads that have everyone saying no.

>>2653845
Are these very durable? Also which one is good? There's like 10 of these things that look exactly the same on Amazon alone under different names.

[Anonymous No.2657124]

You guys think touchscreens are bad?

Try playing sanic 1 on this. Yes, Sega actually ported it to this thing way before Taxman.

[Anonymous No.2657513]

Suddenly i got a feeling that it would be nice to put gba emulator on my phone and play some Duel Masters. With version of DM would you recommend? (english only)

[Anonymous No.2657952]

>>2653354
its a bit rough with some action/platformer games.

I have played MMBN and Pokemon games repatedly on touchscreens though. Turn based games are obviously not a problem, but I honestly surprised myself with how well I did in Battle network since the fights are in real time. The grid aspect definitely helped.

Sorry. GBA isn't /vr/ but the idea still stands.

[Anonymous No.2657957]

>>2653765
Quit limiting yourself.
have some fucking fun

[Anonymous No.2658691]

>>2653354
As with everything mobile, it's needlessly gimped and awful. Tonnes of the emulators (that are completely free on PC) require paid versions for normal features such as ePSXe's pay-to-save and resume. The touch screen controls give you no response whatsoever and there are no physical boundaries you can feel. Tactile feedback is important when playing videogames. Due to the impreciseness of the controls, action games are right out.

Just hack a PSP.

[Anonymous No.2658741]

>>2657124
>mfw I had that game

[Anonymous No.2658773]

>>2653354
I don't think it works. I like the tactility of pressing real buttons too much.

[Anonymous No.2658870]

>>2657124
Can you even access clickwheel games anymore through apple?

[Anonymous No.2659265]

>>2653354

I've played around 60 hours of snes/gba games at work when it's been slow using my 6 plus. Made me realize how much of a hassle it was to download roms. In fact, it inspired me to make http://theromdepot.com/.. As long as you're playing games that don't rely on heavy platforming, you should be okay. I beat Super Mario RPG, 7th Saga, Earthbound, Final Fantasy Iv, Pokemon, and a few others. I'd definitely recommend some kind of controller if you can. If you have an iphone, iCade is a thing that exists. Don't know how well it works though to be honest

[Anonymous No.2660225]

>>2659265
Dude, rad site. Bookmarked

[Anonymous No.2660248]

>>2653354
Nearly impossible without a tactile element.

[Anonymous No.2660282]

>>2653735
at this point, just use a fucking emulator on PC.

[Anonymous No.2660587]

>>2660282
Exactly my thoughts. I have no problems with touch controls so I play not just RPG or turn based games, but more action-packed ones too. I can't say if it's how it's because I got used to it, it just doesn't pose as a hassle. Maybe this's a result of so many android games I already played so when I started emulating it wasn't much of shock.

I just enjoy separating my games like this:

Emulating a console? Than I use the PC, connect the proper control for that console in order to simulate the closest experience of the real hardware. I could connect it to my tv but these nowadays are too big for a PS1 or N64 resolution so my PC screen is perfectly fine.

Emulating a handheld? Than I use my android cellphone, feels portable like the real thing and I always have it with me, plus a ginormous library that does nothing to my phone's memory.

[Anonymous No.2661789]

retroarch is the way to go

[Anonymous No.2662221]

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[Anonymous No.2662335]

>>2653354
I hate it, Only works for RPG's. I guess anything turn based.

[Anonymous No.2663236]

/diy/ here.
I just finished building myself pic related. It basicly acts as Bluetooth keyboard.
Now I need a non shit emulator that lets me bind keys. I tried "My OldBoy Free" but somehow while it allows binding it doesn't react to keypresses ingame. (I tested the controler with other software and it works fine).

[Anonymous No.2663821]

>>2660225

Thanks, glad you like it bruh

[Anonymous No.2663828]

>>2653354
Slow paced games like RPGs work fine with virtual controls, especially if you add a little rumble for every touch so there's some sort of feedback.
They suck for something fast-paced though. I tried Panel de Pon on emulator because I wanted a good puzzle game on my android and it was a pain in the ass.

[Anonymous No.2663884]

>>2653845
I have that, its piece of shit.
>>2654181
Its tiny, around same size of an gba cart
>>2657113
Dunno about durability since I dont carry mine around and never used it more than hour
>>2662221
There is(was?) doom port/engine called doom touch which actually works quite well once you change default controls little bit. Too bad it was apparently removed from google play(or I cant find it anymore).


Personally I love nes30, good build quality and battery life and its portable-ish(size is almost identical to the real nes controller w/o cord). Theres also snes version of this(and another one with analogs and few more extra buttons).

[Anonymous No.2663904]

>>2663884
what phone is this?

[Anonymous No.2665052]

It plays strategy games like advance wars or fire emblem, but action games like mega man zero it might be close to impossible to play.