Fallout 1&2

[Anonymous No.2458326]

Let's have a nice FO 1&2 thread, shall we?
With Fallout 4 coming I've decided to play Fallout 1 and 2 again, but I end up doing the same build I did for the first time and playing in the same way.
What are the most fun builds and ways to play it?

[Anonymous No.2458351]

The "Charming Talker" build (high char., int. and speech skill) and the "Steal Everything" build (high agil., luck and thief skills like 'sneak'). Stealing everything and pickpockething and getting away with it is great therapy for your inner scavenger.

[Anonymous No.2458359]

>>2458351
i might try the steal everything char
i always use charisma and speech in my builds, though

[Anonymous No.2458362]

>>2458326

Have you ever tried the dumb titan build? you just have to keep low into and melee everything, some dialogues are absolutely hilarious.

[Anonymous No.2458364]

>>2458362
I've been wanting to that one too, but I got pissed of because of the content I was missing, but I'll give it another shot

[Anonymous No.2458593]

>>2458359
Charisma is a completely useless stat in 1, and only worth it for party size in 2. Speech works just as fine with 1 CHA as it does with 10, save for the starting points. FO3 is the first game where CHA actually does something.

Melee build has always been my favorite, followed maybe by grenadier (simply because of how unusual it is) or some cookie cutter Energy/Speech/Lockpick when I just want a quick and clean playthrough (which I'm guessing is your "same build", so maybe not this one).

[Anonymous No.2458704]

>>2458593
Interesting... i always thought that charisma affected the conversation options... and you're completely right about my "same build": small guns /speech/lockpick and my SPECIAL was low strength, low luck, average endurance and perception and high agility, intelligence and charisma.
Now that i think of it, it was a bit shitty, but i never used any guides and i felt pretty safe with this build

[Anonymous No.2458787]

I am starting Fallout 2 soon and was wondering what a good build for someones first play through.

[Anonymous No.2458818]

>>2458787
try the winning formula for fallout...
2 charisma
4 strength
8-10 agility
average - high perception
high intelligence
average endurance
low-average luck

traits:
gifted

skills:
small guns/melee
speech
lockpick

Try to go a bit pacifist, get speech high early on, if you want the first part of the game to be easy, go for melee and at least 6 perception.

But, most importantly, try to make your own costumized character, not this one exactly, you'll get a much better experience out of the game, it will be a bit harder though, and think for yourself when leveling.

ps: always pick the awareness perk at level 3

[Anonymous No.2458830]

>>2458787
One of the absolutely strongest builds in FO2 is a close combat build based on either Unarmed (which will ultimately go for Power Fist) or Melee (which will ultimately go for Ripper and a Sledge) with Sneak as your secondary combat skill.

This example is for Melee:
Max Agility (this is always good in the first Fallout games).
Relatively high Endurance and Strength (don't max Strength though).
Charisma at either 1 or 4.
Lots of Intelligence, but not as important as STR/END/AGI
6 Perception.
Luck at whatever you feel like. It's a great stat for almost everything, but it's no biggie if you put it low.

Tag your preferred combat skill (Unarmed/Melee), Sneak, and whatever else you want (Speech is god in both 1 and 2, so it's a good choice even for combat characters).

Gifted is the most OP trait in the game, and if it's your first playthrough take it without question.
If you have a high luck, go for Finesse. Don't go for Heavy Handed, since it only really pays off in the early game. Never take Bruiser. Never take Fast Shot unless you have a very specific build (and this ain't it).

Better Criticals, Action Boy, Bonus HTH Attacks (NOTE: Not the same as Bonus HTH Damage), Bonus Move (Personal preference, not really mandatory), Silent Running (Only for convenience, doesn't really improve your character) are perks to aim for.


The strategy is basically to level up your Sneak to the point that you can walk as close as 3 hexes of an enemy with Sneak without being spotted, entering combat, running up and hitting them, then if needed walk away and leave combat in stealth. You use the Ripper to hit hard, and the Sledge to knock them back when you're low on AP so you get enough distance to Sneak and leave combat.

[Anonymous No.2458886]

>>2458830
>If you have a high luck, go for Finesse.
This should read if you have LOW luck.
The lower luck you have, the more benefit you will gain from it.
Although there's nothing wrong with getting it if you have high luck either.

[Anonymous No.2459427]

Post your face when you're a vault dweller and you're surrounded by rats, but you know you're a-okay because you got Ian at your back with the 10mm SMG

[Anonymous No.2459494]

Fuck vault 15 and its sneaky ass hunting rifle. That shit is like impossible to see, how the hell did anyone actually find this thing originally.

[Anonymous No.2459796]

>>2459494
wait... there's a hunting rifle there?

[Anonymous No.2459845]

>>2459427

[Anonymous No.2459913]

>>2459427
>I'll be alright, Ian will cover me, i gave him a smg

[Anonymous No.2459917]

>tfw when you're a smoothskin normie

[Anonymous No.2459958]

>>2459427

Have i been the only one to finish fallout with ian ?
The last part was insane trying to save him every time.

[Anonymous No.2459962]

>>2459958
no, i also managed to save ian and i almost saved dogmeat, but he died when i fought the lieutenant

[Anonymous No.2459964]

Doing a 10 luck / jinxed run now, headed straight for the Mariposa Base, on my way there i found the alien blaster and the nuka cola truck, although it only had nuka colas.
Managed to kill the first SM sentry without firing a shot, he was always critically missing. It's a very fun build, you should try it

[Anonymous No.2460297]

>>2458326
I enjoy these games but the combat is crippling difficult.

[Anonymous No.2460305]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuBjeLiWhek

[Anonymous No.2460647]

About to start my first Fallout 1 playthrough, how does this look like?

Strength 6
Perception 7
Endurance 4
Charisma 5
Intelligence 9
Agility 9
Luck 8
Boosted by Gifted and Small Frame

Tagged: Small Guns, Energy Weapons, Speech

[Anonymous No.2460658]

>>2459796
Yep in the room all the way on the left. Its in the top leftmost corner in the bathroom. Nearly impossible to see and easily missed.

[Anonymous No.2460664]

>>2460647
U fucked up. Never put anything below 5.

[Anonymous No.2460668]

>>2460647
You want more strength and endurance. No matter what kind of character you want to play, you have to go through a huge amount of mandatory fights against all sorts of critters and that will be a hassle with the low HP you have now. And your carrying capacity will be awful as well.

[Anonymous No.2460670]

>>2460647
take some points of charisma and put them on endurance
don't pick small frame

[Anonymous No.2460672]

>>2460647
take lockipick instead of energy weapons, those are end game and if you can allocate 2-3 points per level, you'll reach 100% in no time

[Anonymous No.2460675]

>>2460647
don't listen to this>>2460664 fucker

[Anonymous No.2460683]

>>2460647
never put odd numbers on agility

[Anonymous No.2460698]

Is Albert even a good default character? Can you actually solve everything diplomatically with him?

[Anonymous No.2460742]

>>2460698
never used any default, i think they suck

[Anonymous No.2460864]

>>2460675
Taking points out of skills is not rec. Mainly its fine though, 6 str is k and gifted is great. Small frame is no

[Anonymous No.2460869]

>>2460672
This shit def. Energy wep is late late game.

[Anonymous No.2460896]

>>2460675
in fact you can practically throw away your charisma entirely

[Anonymous No.2461743]

>>2460683
Why though? Is there some boost that comes later on?

[Anonymous No.2461746]

>>2460896
B-but muh companions

[Anonymous No.2461757]

>>2461746
They are kinda useless, especially in FO1 where they don't catch up with you, not to mention that too many of them makes combats a supreme clusterfuck.
>>2461743
AGI gives you one pip more on your AP bar for every two points you have in it. You are kinda wasting points in chargen if you put an odd number.

[Anonymous No.2461801]

>>2461757
Okay so 4 Char for Dogmeat and another guy, then 8 Agi would be good?

[Anonymous No.2461898]

>>2458326
High pickpocketing and sneak skill, and lots and lots of dynamite.

[Anonymous No.2461917]

>>2460683
You can raise the 9 to a 10 over the course of the game right?

[Anonymous No.2462003]

>>2461757
What about the mod that allows you to equip them normally and what not?

[Anonymous No.2462017]

I'm going to start a fallout 2 game with energy weapons but so far I've been quite fucked because I haven't found any

[Anonymous No.2462020]

how long did it take for you to give marcus a plasma rifle or a flamer and take his minigun away?

[Anonymous No.2462041]

So, does the Tell Me About feature do anything at all in 1?

[Anonymous No.2462094]

>>2462041
If you don't have enough int for a talking-based quest, you can use it to complete them anyway if you know what you're supposed to say. For instance, you can talk to the Shady Sands farmer and use "tell me about Crop Rotation" to finish the crop rotation quest.

>>2461801
>>2461746
Charisma doesn't affect your companion count in Fallout 1. You can grab the entire bunch with 1 Charisma.

[Anonymous No.2462134]

>>2462041
Some keywords can resolve some quests, and generally they are just there for some fluff and funny responses. It's kinda useless and not it's not really what keywords are relevant for a given character, no surprise it got axed in the subsequent games.

[Anonymous No.2462139]

>>2462134
*not really evident. Fuck.