/vr/ - Retro Games

[Sprites No.2014970]

ITT Games with great sprite/pixel work.

Hard mode: no SNK (although, SNK is welcome too).

[Anonymous No.2014972]

>>2014970
Why does Alucard summon Spawn without his mask?

[Anonymous No.2015042]

>>2014972
He has a rod that, used in combination with a shield, produces an effect (based on which shield he has). He also summons a nude woman to heal him.

[Anonymous No.2015047]

>>2014970
Konami was pretty much the king of home console sprite work and animation. Always so smooth and looked amazing.

[Anonymous No.2015053]

[Anonymous No.2015092]

This is easy, good examples include:

Princess Crown
Dragon Force 2
Golden Axe: The Duel
X-Men: Children of the Atom
Marvel Super Heroes
Guardian Heroes (for the better part)
Dark Savior
Grandia of course

Basically, just most of the 2D games on the Sega Saturn.

[Anonymous No.2015097]

How come you don't see sprite work like SotN anymore? I mean wouldn't current tech be able to produce a side stroller that literally looks like a full flowing cartoon?

[Anonymous No.2015101]

>>2014970
This is a pretty damn good reaction image.

[Anonymous No.2015103]

>>2015097

believe because it takes a lot more work hours and effort and also an extremely high number of unique frames could be very taxing on graphics cards

3d graphics can look somewhat similar and require far less resources and effort to make

it's like comparing cel animation to computer assisted animation

[Anonymous No.2015108]

Mega Man 8.

[Anonymous No.2015116]

>>2015103
Isn't it more like comparing hand drawn to computer generated animation?

[Anonymous No.2015345]

Princess Crown

[Anonymous No.2015371]

>>2015103
>also an extremely high number of unique frames could be very taxing on graphics cards
Really? Everybody has 64bit processors and 8 gigs of ram, how bad could it be?

[Anonymous No.2015372]

Virtual Boy has some really good pixel porn if you don't mind the red and black.

[Anonymous No.2015393]

>>2015372
God, I really want someone to import the roboboxer sprites.

[Anonymous No.2015437]

>>2015393

would be really cool to see some animated gifs of Teleroboxer

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[Anonymous No.2015749]

>>2015746
What game is this?

[Anonymous No.2015751]

>>2015746
Possessioner 2 if I'm not mistaken.

[Anonymous No.2015760]

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[Anonymous No.2015763]

Fire Woman Matoi Gumi

[Anonymous No.2015764]

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[Anonymous No.2015768]

Yuuyami Doori Tankentai

[Anonymous No.2015767]

>>2015053
>Not posting the superior Final Fight tribute stage.

[Anonymous No.2015770]

>>2015720
>>2015735
>>2015738
Sauce? What games are these from?

[Anonymous No.2015771]

Front Mission, Snes.

[Anonymous No.2015773]

[Anonymous No.2015775]

>>2015770
>>2015720
This is Illusion City

[Anonymous No.2015778]

>>2015770
Genei Toshi: Illusion City
Bee - mercenary force
The third one, I though it was Three sisters story, but I'm wrong.

[Anonymous No.2015779]

>>2015047
Some of their mid-90s arcade games have nice pixel art too.

[Anonymous No.2015790]

[Anonymous No.2015792]

[Anonymous No.2015895]

>>2015735
A drawing that's been digitized doesn't really strike me as "sprite/pixel work."

[Anonymous No.2015914]

>>2015773

[Anonymous No.2015916]

I always felt Clocktower had excellent sprites.

[Anonymous No.2015975]

>>2015790
>Metal Orange

[Anonymous No.2016183]

>>2015895
It's digitially colored with corrections on a pixel basis.

[Anonymous No.2016185]

>>2016183
So it's a photoshopped image, gotcha

[Anonymous No.2016186]

>>2015097
you are looking in the wrong places. modern consoles are so stupidly powerful that making a 2D pixel art game is seen as a massive waste, by most developers. you need to look into the indie game scene.

check out mobile games, indie PC games, and indie games from the digital marketplaces for Xbox and Playstation.

pic related
its called Hyper Light Drifter. if you like it, start stuffing money into Kickstarter. there are dozens of pixel art games being made by struggling indie devs, at any given day

[Hulk No.2016314]

>>2015053
>>2015437
>>2015792
I hate when gif no move!

[Anonymous No.2016338]

[Anonymous No.2016358]

>>2016338

I should have just posted this one since you get to see more of the actual art instead of numbers and stats.

[Anonymous No.2016361]

>>2016186
They don't avoid 2d games because it's a "waste", they avoid it because 1) modern gamers want muh realizm and 2) it's actually a lot cheaper and quicker to produce high quality 3d models than it is to produce high quality 2d assets with all the animations from all possible orientations involved and that looks good at any resolution and aspect ratio

[Anonymous No.2016362]

>>2015042
>He also summons a nude woman to heal him.

Why didn't you post that one, OP? Why did you fail us?

[Anonymous No.2016368]

>>2016186
style over substance: the game

[Anonymous No.2016373]

>>2015762
Is there something I'm missing or is that a gigantic shirt on that top window?

[Anonymous No.2016564]

>>2016185
What do you think pixel art is?

[Anonymous No.2016581]

Breath of Fire 3

[Anonymous No.2016604]

>>2015767
>Haggar still hasn't been in a Street Fighter game
Come on, Capcom, get your shit together.

[Anonymous No.2016606]

>>2016604
>Well, playable, that is

[Anonymous No.2016623]

>>2016604
Just use Zangief, he's burlier and stole all of Haggars signature moves anyway. He's even got a Haggar costume in sf4.

[Anonymous No.2016704]

>>2015735
Uchuu Kaitou Funny Bee is so fucking good.

[Anonymous No.2016708]

>>2016704
Here's some trivia for you: The artist for it was also the character designer for Samurai Pizza Cats,

[Anonymous No.2016716]

>>2015748
Wow what game is this?

[That Ecchi Guy !!SXqkEzxV5p0 No.2016720]

Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden

[Anonymous No.2016723]

>>2016708
No shit? I fucking love SPC.

[Anonymous No.2016725]

>>2016716
Hexen.

[Anonymous No.2016738]

>>2016723
No shit. Noritaka "Tenko" Suzuki. He also worked on Idol Project and Wild Cardz, among other things. He has a blog where he still draws a lot of SPC-related stuff: http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/robototenko

[Anonymous No.2016862]

>>2016604
I know, it's bullshit. I really want Damnd to be playable too but it'll never happen.

[Anonymous No.2016869]

>>2016862
He's playable in this though.

[Anonymous No.2016878]

>>2015097
>I mean wouldn't current tech be able to produce a side stroller that literally looks like a full flowing cartoon?
What is Rayman Origins? Legends? Dragon's Crown?

[Anonymous No.2016886]

>>2016604

He was in MvC3, ain't that enough?

[Anonymous No.2017009]

>>2016368
Have you even read anything about it or seen it in action? It looks like a blast to play.

[Anonymous No.2017017]

>>2015097
Anything Vanillaware, just look at princess crown, grim grimoire, odin's sphere, muramasa and dragons crown

[That Ecchi Guy !!SXqkEzxV5p0 No.2017038]

>>2015097

[Anonymous No.2017043]

>>2016878
Beat me to the punch.
Seriously, check these out. Haven't played Dragon's Crown, but the Rayman games are fun, and look truly amazing...really makes me wish more devs would take the time to make games as beautiful as those nowadays.

[Anonymous No.2017048]

>>2017038
That looks like a heavily cel-shaded 3D model to me.

[Anonymous No.2017085]

>>2017017
Games like that don't look like cartoons though, they lack that fluidity. It looks like little paper cutouts moving along instead, which is cool too, but they're a little more rigid.

[Anonymous No.2017106]

>>2016720
Gonna have to check if the 1st Alpha translation is moving...nope, still 65%.

[Anonymous No.2017179]

>>2017017
You forgot Grand Knights History. And before you ask, it got some time ago a 100% fan translation patch.

[Anonymous No.2017205]

A lot of Capcom stuff on the SNES had incredible art. Super Ghouls and Ghosts, Demon's Crest, Megaman X all have gorgeous character sprites and backgrounds.

You know, I really love the animation style that SoTN and later Metroidvania games used for the bigger monsters, where they just draw super detailed limbs and then I guess tween them independently. Eligor in OoE looked so cool because of that.

[That Ecchi Guy !!SXqkEzxV5p0 No.2017246]

>>2017048
That's the illusion. They used 3D models for reference and a lot of scaling + rotating wizardry. The units aren't animated as whole sprites but instead as heads, limbs, and other moving parts that are then rigged together. This helps them achieve that illusory 3D effect whilst letting them animate to the confines of 2D.

>>2017085
This is my issue with Vanillaware and the Rayman games. Too much tweening, not enough reference frames, and rotation of individual limbs doesn't work as well for humanoids as it does for robots or large creatures. Their sprites look great but not so much in terms of actual animation.

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[Anonymous No.2017664]

>>2015371
Don't believe him, the only reason is that sprites need much more work as opposed to 3D models. Sprite rendering actually takes very little resources (that is why the first games used sprites.

[Anonymous No.2017685]

>>2016368
Ahh, but what style! What do you think got so much funding? It's freaking gorgeous, and if it has a half-workable combat mechanic behind it, it'll be worth my money.

[Anonymous No.2017949]

>>2017685
I'm playing the beta right now, and it's goddamn fun. Simple yes, but fun.

[Anonymous No.2017970]

>>2015726
what game is that?

[Anonymous No.2017973]

>>2016886
Can't ever get enough Haggar

[Anonymous No.2018354]

>>2017970
Stronghold Crusader. Duh.

[Anonymous No.2018387]

>>2017949
>>2017685
Hella fun, I played through the beta and was left craving more. Another good pixel game that'll be out by 2015 summer is called Moon Hunters. Been called the Harvest moon x Guantlet x Castle Crashers x Chrono Trigger fourway love child. I kickstarted it, and can't wait, the in-between adventures town-building looks really rad, on top of the combat.

[Anonymous No.2018409]

>>2014970
While the rest of the game holds up quite well for an 8-bit computer game, what really stands out for me in Metal Gear 2 are the detail character portraits in the original MSX2 release. Didn't like the Shinkawa-style they used in the later ports.

[Anonymous No.2018410]

>>2016186

[Anonymous No.2018431]

>>2018410
Fixed.

[Anonymous No.2018434]

>>2018409
Although I prefer Shinkawa-style, can't disagree with you. His work looks better in a canvas than in 8-bit game. Also, all the work in those details you said must be from the fact that they were REALLY trying to copy celebrities appearance.

[Anonymous No.2018463]

The Adventures of Lomax looked absolutely gorgeous

[Anonymous No.2018464]

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>>2018464

[Anonymous No.2018471]

>>2018468

[Anonymous No.2018478]

>>2018463
>>2018464
>>2018468
>>2018471
It's too bad that game absolutely infuriates me, especially the bubble jumping part, and I will probably never touch it again.

[Anonymous No.2018493]

100 replies and no mention of Metal Slug?

Color me surprised

[Anonymous No.2018501]

>>2018493
>Hard mode: no SNK
Because you're the only one who prefers to take the easy way.

[Anonymous No.2018503]

>>2018493
Snk is hardmode. Some of us are trying tonshownoff our power levels

[Anonymous No.2018510]

>>2018501
>SNK is welcome too
Is this a contest?

[Anonymous No.2018515]

>>2018510
What is the point of having an enormous penis if you can't show it off to anybody?

[Anonymous No.2018519]

>>2018510

[Anonymous No.2018523]

>>2018510
Unused boss for Metal Slug 5

[Anonymous No.2018529]

>>2018510

[Anonymous No.2018531]

>>2018510
>avoids medicine to use zombie super attack when this guys show up

[Anonymous No.2018535]

>>2018531
"jump! jump! shoot the blue rocket!"

[Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo No.2019275]

>>2017589

Old Artdink games are full of hand-drawn pixel art. They couldn't scan in cropped photos of buildings and clean them up to fit in the floppies, so they did it all pixel-by-pixel, and for the better.

[Anonymous No.2019287]

>>2015916
isn't this mark of the wolves though?

[Anonymous No.2019343]

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[Anonymous No.2019363]

>>2019351
Curse of enchantia, my nubian sibling.
My first point & click game, but apparantly it's considered a shit game.

[Anonymous No.2019381]

>>2019363

It is? I think it was funny, and had a certain charm to it, the fact the game is completely devoid of text (something unusual in point and clicks) kind of gives the game a sort of more abstract, surreal feeling, I liked that. Sometimes the game would be funny or silly, and next it'd be unsettling and dark, then be silly again. I liked that.
Simple, not pretentious at all, but fun point and click. I played it many times.
Only flaw would be that it has the same single music track playing from beginning to end. Seriously.

[Anonymous No.2019462]

>>2015765

Good one, anon.

[Anonymous No.2019473]

[Anonymous No.2021897]

[retal4 !mzul7cyvvE No.2022924]

[Anonymous No.2022925]

>>2022924
>Gravity Falls
>Game
>Paul Robertson
>Good Pixel Art

[Anonymous No.2022990]

[Anonymous No.2023026]

>>2015749
hexen, I think

[Anonymous No.2023156]

>>2022924

[Anonymous No.2023169]

Might & Magic 4&5 had some pretty cool ones.

[Anonymous No.2023176]

>>2022925
Finally, someone else who agrees with me.

[Anonymous No.2023186]

>>2017246
Is this from the PSP games?

[Anonymous No.2023190]

>>2018431
Better yet.

[Anonymous No.2023196]

>>2017085
This

[Anonymous No.2023504]

>>2017246

I like the look of the SRW Z games for PSP better. The latest PS3 episode was a letdown for me regarding the general aestethic.

[Anonymous No.2023636]

>>2014970
Which shield has that rod combo?
I only ever used Iron Shield for massive attacking swords.

[Anonymous No.2023669]

>>2018409

It's because they are literally photographs, just very low-color.

[Anonymous No.2023670]

>>2015101
>it_happened.png

[Anonymous No.2023692]

>>2018410
>>2018431
What's the game on the right? It looks pretty good.

[Anonymous No.2023709]

>>2015767
I actually like the "under the bridge" thing though in the newer one. Although I just know noticed the sprite recycling.

[Anonymous No.2023735]

>>2023190
>using gen2 NES era games (1987-1989)

[Anonymous No.2023759]

>>2017038

That's beautiful! If only we could get plently of games looking like that today...

[Anonymous No.2023769]

>>2023636
It's the Dark Shield, dropped by Malachi.

Shield Magic:
Leather: Defense +20
Knight: Attack +20
Shaman: Intelligence +20
Herald: Resist Fire + Thunder
Goddess: Resist Dark

Skull: Fires a giant laser
Dark: Attacks everything on-screen with rocks rising from the ground
Medusa: Fires homing lasers
Axe Knight: Summons an Axe Knight to attack
Fire: Salamanders attack everything on-screen
Alucart: Wastes MP
Alucard: Alucard Shield becomes a weapon of mass destruction, causing tons of damage, granting temporary invincibility when it hits, restoring 8 HP per hit, and restoring 1 heart per hit.

The Mablung / Lemuria Sword also lets you use shield magic, so you don't have to use the Shield Rod all the time.

Passive Effects:
Herald: Restores 1 heart for each projectile blocked
Iron: Grants temporary invincibility when blocking a projectile
Medusa: Auto Resist Stone; deals Stone damage on contact
Dark: Deals Hit damage on contact

[Anonymous No.2023784]

>>2023190
what other NES-esque games there exist?

[Anonymous No.2023812]

>>2016704
who is the character designer?

>>2016708
did by any coincidence, work on this?

[Anonymous No.2023815]

>>2015723
Theme hostpital is such a fun game. If you ever played it, do you remember the announcers quote? They were pretty funny at time. Anyway, the Swedish translaten took the jokes one step up and you can actually here the quote "Kan Herr Nekro och Fru Fil bege sig till entren?`" Translation: "Could Mr. Necro and Miss. Phile please aproach the entrence". I lost my shit the first time i heard it...

[Anonymous No.2023851]

>>2023190
>>2018431
>>2018410
I don't get this.. why does it matter of the game looks like actual NES games or not?

For me that game looks like -how i remembered- nes games. I will play that for sure.

Also, what's the name of the game to the right?

[Anonymous No.2023856]

>>2023851
Let me translate to you. The first guys said:
"Modern "retro"-looking games are shitty non-efforts misusing the aesthetics to cover up lack of development funds and artistic skills."
But the other guy said:
"Not all modern "retro"-style games are like that. Some look good."

[Anonymous No.2023883]

>>2023851
Little Samson.

[Anonymous No.2023905]

>>2015097
Why paint a whole world when you can buy assets and just fix the textures a bit. No one will notice, it's not like grittymudgray realism could look another way.

[Anonymous No.2023927]

>>2023856
Being the guy that posted >>2018410 I can say you got my half exactly correct.

[Anonymous No.2023939]

>>2018463
>>2018464
>>2018468
>>2018471
My fucking nigger. Wish that shit was turned into a franchise/recurring mascot.

>>2018410
>>2018431
Funny that both indie games look nothing like actualy NES graphics. I'm yet to see an indie game, apart from legit contemporary games developed for the system, that would legitimately nail the real retro feel in graphics, not just half-assedly pixelated Flash graphics, with the black and green Gameboy filter if the developer is feeling generous enough.

[Anonymous No.2023940]

>>2023190
>>2018431
>>2018410

Corrected Edition, seriously.

[Anonymous No.2023949]

>>2017205
Darkstalkers sprites were so good and so complex for their time Capcom refused to mess with them in any way until SNK HD-fied Dimitri for Capcom vs SNK Chaos.
He actually looks worse.

[Anonymous No.2023957]

>>2023692
Little Samson.
One of the best, and last games on the NES

[Anonymous No.2023995]

>>2023939
You not play Oniken? Its a bit too impressive to actually have been on the NES (somewhere between NES and PC-Engine), but it nails the style pretty much as well as you could expect. Pretty fun game, too, very (very) reminiscent of VICE.

[Anonymous No.2023997]

>>2023940
>no need for glasses thank you
are you angry at someone?

[Anonymous No.2024009]

>>2023995
Pretty much as legit as you can get. Gameplay is better than most NES games, but not as good as the true classics, like Ninja Gaiden.

[Anonymous No.2024010]

>>2023940
>Battle Kid
>8-bit esque game

[Anonymous No.2024012]

>>2023940
I feel like this image undermines its own point.

>This is what NES games looked like in 1990 to 93, when most gamers only cared about the SNES and Genesis

The NES was already old-hat by your own admission, so of COURSE people are going to use 80's games as the standard.

[Anonymous No.2024014]

>>2024010
You're right, Battle Kid IS an 8-bit game.

[Anonymous No.2024020]

>>2024014
I'm not sure if you're being facetious, but Battle Kid was indeed developed for the NES, as is it's sequel. There's also several homebrew NES games, but they fluctuate WILDLY in quality. You got gems like Blade Buster and Super Bat Puncher, then you got obviously made by an amateur games like Dragon Feet or Munchie Attack.

[Anonymous No.2024032]

>>2023940
>>2024012
Or rather how people either under-estimate the power of the NES, what was capable to do to the max.

the people who either think it could do stuff in the same level as some of the 8bit-esque games they are now, and at the same time assume the NES was a weak ass console

Because when people say NES limits, they ALWAYS assume that games should ONLY look at best like the late 80s releases.

This was one heavy issue with the graphics of Megaman 9 & 10, they were trying to stay safe by only using MM2 as a model, and the graphics were only a little above that entry in the series, specially in the dismal and dark color palettes and the simplistic backgrounds, i mean compare Megaman 9 & 10 to parts 4,5 & 6, and heck, even FC7.

[Anonymous No.2024036]

>>2017246
>>2017246
Do you have webms of that delicious Zeta from Z3?

[Anonymous No.2024038]

>>2024014
>>2024032
But it looks VERY limited and simplistic, its aesthetics are more akin of a game released between 1987 & 1988

[Anonymous No.2024042]

>>2024020
>I'm not sure if you're being facetious
I wasn't.

I actually also like BK. I feel it gets the "restart heavy" gameplay of IWBTG down without resorting to cheap tricks. It's pretty obvious what's going to kill you. It's just a matter of observing how to get around it.

Going to put Blade Buster and Super Bat Puncher on the list of games to play, by the way.

[Anonymous No.2024043]

>>2016368
its pretty easy to beat up on a game that has shown nothing of its gameplay, and isn't even finished

[That Ecchi Guy !!SXqkEzxV5p0 No.2024051]

>>2023186
Yeah, from SRW Z2.2 Saisei-Hen.

>>2023504
Agreed. Too many units got shafted in regards to animation in Z3.1, Gundam Wing especially. The episodic releases for the Z sequels has done the series more harm than good imo.

>>2023759
Niche market. It bugs me that the latest Pokemon installment can do a million in pre-orders easily while still looking like something pumped out on the Game Boy. I'd love to see that series receive an overhaul in terms of battle animation and sprite work in the vein of SRW, but why bother when it's fully capable of generating those sales numbers despite the lack of effort?

>>2024036
Not many.

[That Ecchi Guy !!SXqkEzxV5p0 No.2024054]

>>2024051

[Anonymous No.2024060]

>>2024051
>It bugs me that the latest Pokemon installment can do a million in pre-orders easily while still looking like something pumped out on the Game Boy

Uh, what? XY and ORAS (which is running on the XY engine) are fully-3D worlds, when did the Game Boy ever do that? And they're not low-poly shit either, they look better than N64.

[Anonymous No.2024067]

>>2023940
They all look like 8 bit games, not sure what point you're trying to make

[Anonymous No.2024072]

>>2024043
I played the preview, there isn't much to the game. It looks nice but that's about it.

[Anonymous No.2024146]

>>2024032
So, correct me if I'm wrong here.

You're mad because people are using 8 bit artstyle that they grew up with to make games today and not the artstyle of the less played games that used the console to it's fullest potential...?

[Anonymous No.2024164]

>>2024146
I'm guessing anon is a graphics > gameplay kind of gamer

[Anonymous No.2024219]

>>2024164
No no, HE IS JUST SAYING that the direction of the aesthetics used in games that try to emulate the 8-bit or even NES feeling, is a bit misguided or underdeveloped in potential.

[Anonymous No.2024256]

>>2018431
>>2023190
>>2023940

> get curious about Shovel Knight
> have a shitty pc, but the game looks like an early 16bit game, so i guess my pc can run it
> see the requirements on Steam
> mfw

[Anonymous No.2024270]

>>2024219
>try to emulate the 8-bit or even NES feeling, is a bit misguided or underdeveloped in potential.
I disagree.

I think the game developer chose the style out of their own nostalgia and love for the retro games, not to emulate it accurately.

I also want to point out that several, if not most, of the old gems had industry funding with several professional artists. I think it's unfair to expect the same from smaller studios with less than a handful people.

[Anonymous No.2024278]

>all those games
>tfw no CRT monitor

[Anonymous No.2024412]

>>2015731
Man, I really wish Amiga games would get some more shine in the retro scene. There are a lot of gems there. Let's Play's etc.

[Anonymous No.2024780]

>>2014970
Alucard wasn't actually a sprite, in a true sense.

He was a 3D model at a really low resolution.

[Anonymous No.2024826]

>>2024780
>alucard is a model
can i get a source on this because i think this is not true at all

[Anonymous No.2024918]

>>2024256

Welcome to the indie optmization. I had the same problem with Rogue Legacy, as my pc is from 2009 and is a very simple model. But what always gets me is Doom 3 runs like a charm, but games Shovel Knight, Rogue Legacy or other games that doesn't seem heavier than a Master System rom run at 20 fps.

[Anonymous No.2024985]

[Anonymous No.2025035]

>>2018409
Mfw no Snake portrait

[Anonymous No.2025040]

[Anonymous No.2025043]

>>2025040
I didn't come here to fap, anon.

[Anonymous No.2025081]

>>2023190
That filename is accurate.

[Anonymous No.2025129]

>>2025043
I did.

[Anonymous No.2025138]

>>2025040
>TFW Local arcade has 3rd strike
>TFW nothing but button mashers and SF4 Plebs to play against.
It'd be better if it just wasn’t there ;~;

[Anonymous No.2025152]

>>2025138

buy it

[Anonymous No.2025160]

>>2024020
>Super Bat Puncher
That game is taking forever. Is it even coming out?

[Anonymous No.2025171]

>>2018410
>>2018431
>>2023190
>>2023940
You guys are missing the point here.

[Anonymous No.2025175]

>glanced over half the thread
>No Legend of Mana
k nerdz.

[Anonymous No.2025178]

>>2015762
I don't know why but I always used to think this stage was indoors.. wtf.

[Anonymous No.2025192]

>>2023949
I actually liked Dimitri's sprites in SvC. namely his intro. I like that it a swarm of bats not just one.

[Anonymous No.2025219]

>>2025175
>>2022990
Glance harder next time.

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[Anonymous No.2025221]

>>2025175
Should have glanced over the other half >>2022990

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[Anonymous No.2025683]

>>2024256
What's your spec?
Because my pc is shitty too(Athlon 64 4000+ single core, 2GB RAM, GeForce 9800GT), but Shovel Knight runs 60fps with no problems(just a rare 50fps drop)

[Anonymous No.2025875]

>>2025683
A Nes game shouldn't run at 60 fps.

[Anonymous No.2025926]

>>2025875
1st, NTCS NES framerate is 60.1 fps
2nd, PAL NES framerate is 5.007 fps
3rd, SHovel Knight is a PC game that only tries to look and feel like a NES game, not a NES game.
I don't know what you're smoking, but a NES game should in fact run at 60 fps.

[Anonymous No.2025930]

>>2025926
>5.007 fps
meant 50.007

[Anonymous No.2026659]

>>2024256
>soon faux retro games that intentionally invoke the look of 5th generation 3D games will be hip and trendy
>the minimum requirements for those games would be the same as getting Crysis 3, THE most demanding PC game, to run at 1080p 60FPS
>games that ran perfectly fine on 300MHz Pentiums with 16MB of RAM

Was assembly really THAT good?

[Anonymous No.2026704]

>>2015097
I asked myself this too. I thought by now we'd be playing literal cartoon quality games, but it's all 3D.

I loved the new Raymans and Child Of Light was a breath of fresh air.

Cuphead is looking to be fucking awesome. Everything is being hand drawn on paper and scanned in. It literally looks like a 30's-40's era cartoon.

[Anonymous No.2026707]

>>2015720
I really miss 80's cyberpunk. Cyberpunk was such a cool genre. I'm surprised it never really took off.

[Anonymous No.2026708]

>>2015743
Loved Sim City 1 and 2. Such amazing games. I loved Sim City on SNES even more. The music alone made me feel so nostalgic and peaceful and sad at the same time. The opening to Sim City on SNES was so somber too. What a wonderful game. I might download it.

[Anonymous No.2026712]

>>2026659
5th gen at least the Saturn and PS1 used C

[Anonymous No.2026717]

>>2019343
What platform was this and Lomax on? Neo Geo? Computer? They look so nice. Too bad they weren't on later systems. Very beautiful games.

[Anonymous No.2026719]

>>2026717

lomax was on ps1 and pc

[Anonymous No.2026725]

>>2023940
Kirby's Adventure is probably the best looking game for NES. I heard there was another one called Adventures Of Simon or something? Where the animations are supposed to be ultra smooth.

I still own my original NES and have Kirby's Adventure. It still holds up today game play wise. If only the NES could have kept going a few more years. I think we would have had some solid entries in before its death.

[Anonymous No.2026739]

>>2026704
I know it's not retro, but the sprite work on Skullgirls is amazing. The number of frames that each action has is just unreal.

[Anonymous No.2026743]

>>2026739

>the number of frames that each tit jiggle has is just unreal

fixed it up a bit

[Anonymous No.2026764]

>>2026739
Too bad the art style is deviantart tier .

[Anonymous No.2026774]

This is neither retro nor in good taste, but some sprite based hentai games have pretty good sprite work, parasite in city chief among them.

[Anonymous No.2026791]

>>2026743
I prefer it when fighting game developers are upfront about it anyway.
Why are fighting games the lewdest genre?

[Anonymous No.2026807]

>>2023949
i agree he looked bad. just ugh

[Anonymous No.2026808]

>>2025220
>that pillow shading.
jesus christ no.

[Anonymous No.2026810]

>>2023940
there are games that try to emulate the "feel" of it, while others really try to emulate the technical constraints on old machines.

[Anonymous No.2026925]

>>2017621
I wouldn't exactly call Mischief Makers a game with great pixel art, most of the game is pretty ugly. Which isn't to say it's a bad game, of course not, easily one of my favorite platformers, but some areas are ridiculously ugly.

[Anonymous No.2027451]

>>2026712
I'm just talking about how a game like Turok 2 can run on much weaker hardware, but a game nowhere near as complex like Shovel Knight exponentially more powerful hardware. There is no reason why this game needs two fucking gigabytes of RAM. There is no reason why this game needs more than one gigahertz of CPU speed.

[Anonymous No.2027476]

>>2026739
Is it really sprite work if they did it in flash?

[Anonymous No.2027496]

>>2027476
By technical jargon, a sprite is a flat image comprised of pixels that moves independently of the background, so it technically is. Not in the same sense as pixel art, where the color count had to be significantly reduced.

[Anonymous No.2027501]

>>2027451
maybe is because people nowadays use bloated engines and APIs instead of coding everything from scratch? or they just overestimate the minimum requirements.

[Anonymous No.2027509]

>>2027501
Why are the engines so bloated in the first place?

[Anonymous No.2027521]

>>2027509
functionality, features, real time editing and other stuff. back in the day it was only the C/C++ compiler instead of the unreal/fox/source/unity/other engine

[Anonymous No.2027523]

>>2027501
>>2027521

If it can run on the 3DS, which has a 300MHz CPU and 128 MB of RAM, it should be able to run on hardware on the same spectrum, not exponentially more powerful hardware.

[Anonymous No.2027536]

>>2027523
except the 3ds can't run any of those engines and runs the games at 240p instead of 1080p like most PC games. The requirements are because of the tools which the 3ds can't run which is the reason it get's little support from everyone but a select few developers since it's hard to make games for the system.

[Anonymous No.2027564]

>>2027536
>except the 3ds can't run any of those engines
Shovel Knight has been released on 3DS also.

>and runs the games at 240p instead of 1080p like most PC games.
Shovel Knight is upscaled to 1080p on PC.

[Anonymous No.2027594]

>>2026717

Flink was on Megadrive and Sega CD, also on Amiga and Amiga CD-32 or whatever.

[Anonymous No.2027639]

>>2027509
It gives you lots and lots of functionality. People actually criticize these things for removing control from the programmer (because you have to tailor and optimize memory access yourself, it seems), but it means you can do in months what would take years otherwise.

[Anonymous No.2027874]

>>2026739
The number of frames that each action has is just unreal.
Although the game did enter in the world guinnes for "Most frames of animation per character", the actual amount of frames each character has isn't that higher than what other fighting games have...
A Skullgirls character has an average of 1400 sprites, while a SFIII chracter has an average of 1100, with a couple of characters going up to 1300.
Plus, the majority of the sprites are used in the most unnoticeable ways..and the perfect example is the animation you posted:
there are more than 5 frames used for the hand moving literally 2 pixels apart while the rest of the body stands still, and ONLY 3 frames used for her falling to the ground part.
If you remove half of the frames used for that hand thing it's still petty much unnoticeable, while adding said removed frames to her falling anim woul dmake the fall more fluid.

tl;dr: not much more sprites than other fighters, most sprites used in the wrong places.

[Anonymous No.2027928]

>>2024780
liar liar pants on fire

[Anonymous No.2028116]

>>2023940
You probably shouldn't contribute any more OC.
You're awful at it.

[Anonymous No.2028842]

>>2025683
>What's your spec?

Intel Pentium 4HT 3.20 ghz, 2gb RAM and a shitty Intel video card, only 64mb VRAM, as far as i know, i can't get a better GPU unless i get a better motherboard

>>2026659

You forgot

> Some games will have loading times and a short draw distance just for the sake nostalgia - retro - authentic - experience

[Anonymous No.2029163]

>>2023940
It really saddens me how nintendo gave up on the wii so early in his life time to focus exclusively on the wii u compared to the time of NES to SNES.
the new system is even compatible with the previous system's games for fuck sake.

[Anonymous No.2029186]

>>2027928

I was replaying it recently and he might be on to something, some of his animations have a sort of depth to them, not unlike the shit from the new guilty gear game that is made with unreal.

[Anonymous No.2029257]

Never liked pre-rendered 3D until this game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=ja&gl=JP
But still dont like Donkey Kong's fake 3D wich was theorically its' strong part

[Anonymous No.2029258]

>>2029257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=ja&gl=JP&v=AicqdWPSjKg

[Anonymous No.2031050]

>>2026764
That's because Alex Ahad literally has a Deviantart account.

[Anonymous No.2031057]

>>2023940
>what games looked like in the 90s
>entirely blue
>purple with some blue
>entirely blue
>brown with some green
>pastel colors
>black everywhere
>entirely orange
>entirely red

Only *Tips Fedora* does anything impressive with the NES' colors, and even then it uses black everywhere it can.