Shining Force series

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Shining Force series Anonymous Sun Jul 20 20:25:10 2014 No.1787487 [DELETED]

>dat NTR

Fuck you, Bowie, for ending with the princess who barely gets one line in the game and not with the girl who's stuck by you the whole game and loves you dearly.

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sun Jul 20 20:55:55 2014 No.1787567 >>1787487 Shining Force III's plot doesn't have this trope, at least. Not sure how much better that trilogy's plot is on the whole.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 20 21:50:39 2014 No.1787694 File: 106 KB, 319x617, Sarah.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1787487 >they actually go so far as to show Sarah running away in tears BASTARDS!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 20 22:10:31 2014 No.1787746 >>1787694 >no doujins of bowie fucking the princess in front of tied up sarah Why live.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sun Jul 20 22:30:01 2014 No.1787801
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Remember this behind-the-scenes from GamesTM? http://www.gamestm.co.uk/uncategorised/behind-the-scenes-shining-force/

The Takahashi bros. mention Silver Ghost as the second influence on the first Shining Force, alongside Dragon Quest. Well, it looks like you can play Kure Software Koubou's games through Project EGG: http://www.amusement-center.com/project/egg/cgi/ecatalog-detail.cgi?contcode=7&product_id=28

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 20 23:02:32 2014 No.1787892 >>1787694 >blue hair elf He'd rather fuck a hot virgin blonde with big tits.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 20 23:34:54 2014 No.1787968 >>1787892 >not knowing how dericiousry sexual elves are

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 00:12:16 2014 No.1788103 >>1787968 especially once they become Kung Fu masters

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 00:17:02 2014 No.1788110 SHINING FORCE THREAD AW YEAH

Anonymous Mon Jul 21 02:43:17 2014 No.1788461
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Is it wrong to think that I want a straight remake of the two SF games, with art designed by the guy who is in charge of the Modern Shining Force Games?

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon Jul 21 02:53:52 2014 No.1788482

>>1788461
No, but I think the current Shining team at SEGA needs to recognize and accept the Team Sonic/Camelot games first. They've somehow taken offense at the western Shining community for reasons mostly unknown to us, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're just as blatantly jealous as SEGA's executive board. Camelot's not going to work with SEGA again—not after how they dropped support during Episode III's development—so this issue's an impasse.

I don't like Tony Taka's art, honestly. Tamaki, though, now we're talking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 03:02:30 2014 No.1788507 >>1788482 Can you show me a sample of this Tamaki's art? Also, Isn't it illogical to destroy videos of past Shining Force Games just to promote a Modern Shining Game which will never be exported?

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon Jul 21 03:14:46 2014 No.1788538 File: 48 KB, 531x269, Who even uses Hans.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1788507 Well yeah, they're petty fucks for doing that. Tamaki dump!

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon Jul 21 03:15:48 2014 No.1788540 File: 292 KB, 1058x755, Alundra moonrunes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon Jul 21 03:16:50 2014 No.1788542 File: 395 KB, 1397x701, Feda cheese.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon Jul 21 03:19:14 2014 No.1788549 File: 72 KB, 500x452, Treasure Hunter Lol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tamaki mostly does monster designs these days, but he's good at most things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 03:21:20 2014 No.1788552 File: 159 KB, 800x600, sf3_desktop_01_800x600.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I generally like the SF3 art the most myself I dig Tamaki and can take Taka or leave him

Anonymous Mon Jul 21 07:39:55 2014 No.1788880
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I've always been a fan of Hiroshi Kajiyama.
He did the art for CD, Final Conflict, and Wisdom, and even helped with Shining Force III (several different artists did the final portraits, and you can even see some inconsistency between promotions, but the main character designs are his):

https://plus.google.com/photos/109697439128166295208/albums/5473453234896635889?banner=pwa

Most of his artwork can be found in "Half Quarter" books available on Shining Force Central (not complete, though).

http://shiningforcecentral.com/?p=artwork

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 10:33:57 2014 No.1789120 File: 187 KB, 500x323, TAKE BITE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw these games are too shallow to discuss so their threads just devolve into dumps of the same art over and over

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 11:23:20 2014 No.1789204 >>1788538 I used Hans you fuck

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon Jul 21 18:43:02 2014 No.1790219 >>1789204 I used him, but not for very long. >>1789120 Shining Force III's the only really good one IMO, and it's a good deal more complex (partnering units for stat buffs, specials, equipment leveling, &c.).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 18:55:31 2014 No.1790253 >>1788880 >rubber legs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 21:05:39 2014 No.1790680 The shining team has taken offense from the western shining community? Details, please.

Anonymous Mon Jul 21 21:13:31 2014 No.1790706

>>1790680
The shining team doesn't care, they just make Mario sports games for nintendo now.

Sega, who currently holds the rights to the series, threw a magnanimous hissy fit a couple years ago because westerners prefer the games that were actually released here over the newer, Japan-only weebshit. Filed a gorrillion false DMCA claims and got some lets players banned for no reason.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 21:22:12 2014 No.1790725 >>1790706 Sega are huge faggots and deserve the failure they've achieved. Their ONLY real fans are in the West and they hate them. See also: PSO 2.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 21:55:03 2014 No.1790856 http://strawpoll.me/2165923

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 22:20:13 2014 No.1790935 File: 548 KB, 485x332, ampas-gold-standard-series.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1787487 >Fuck you, Bowie

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 22:20:36 2014 No.1790937 >>1790706 yeah funny that people enjoy epic fantasy adventure instead of shappy smile elf bread

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 22:22:16 2014 No.1790943 >>1790725 If SoJ had been nuked from orbit in early 90s, Sega would probably be ruling the gaming world by now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 22:25:04 2014 No.1790952 >>1790943 Pretty much. The Japanese branch is to blame for practically every fault Sega's ever had.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 22:28:13 2014 No.1790961 is Shining Force CD worth the price tag?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 22:30:54 2014 No.1790976 >>1790943 >Implying SoJ wasn't responsible for 90% of the company's best games. Yeah, cause Greendog: The Beach Surfer Dude and Eternal Champions are the Sega games that everyone remember fondly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 22:32:26 2014 No.1790981 >>1790952 >The Japanese branch is to blame for practically every fault Sega's ever had. I wish people would stop putting so much faith in the words of disgruntled SoA employees who didn't have their way with the company.

Anonymous Mon Jul 21 22:34:08 2014 No.1790987

>>1790976
Not really talking about the games, but the company's decisions. Sega of Japan has made countless hilariously bad choices over and over again, and never learned from their mistakes. They also tried to shift the blame over to the US whenever things went wrong, which is a big part of why the Saturn was never successful here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 22:34:36 2014 No.1790990 >>1790976 If SoJ was nuked from orbit but a rescue team was sent in to get JUST the developers before the attack, everything would have been good. >>1790981 It's pretty plainly obvious that all of Sega's problems were by SoJ.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 22:39:14 2014 No.1791000 >>1790981 Yeah, the guys who were able to beat Nintendo in the biggest market. Versus, you know, the guys who ran Sega into the ground. It is funny how petty and butthurt they are today against filthy gaijin, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 23:27:03 2014 No.1791115 >>1790961 >is Shining Force CD worth the price tag? God no. It's really just the game gear games

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 23:30:03 2014 No.1791125 >>1791115 It has an entire third game afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 21 23:37:31 2014 No.1791145 File: 303 KB, 850x1259, 44754049.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1789120 >their threads just devolve into dumps of the same art over and over. That's because there's barely new (fan)art of SF each year.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 07:08:44 2014 No.1792240 >>1791125 Four games, actually.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 07:13:32 2014 No.1792245 >Elf slave wat du?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 14:24:04 2014 No.1793091 >>1790706 If they were bogus claims, couldn't the LPers have challenged them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 14:26:20 2014 No.1793096 >>1787694 So cute.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 17:12:53 2014 No.1793545 >>1792240 eh still the scalpers ask a bit much for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 17:24:30 2014 No.1793586 File: 10 KB, 512x480, 1-sitd06-001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] mai waifu

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 17:43:06 2014 No.1793656
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>>1793586
Speaking of Shining in the Darkness, I was really surprised when Pyra joined me in Timestalkers.

The game was crap, but the cameos were godlike. Also, Virgil from Landstalker was a bro in that game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 17:48:59 2014 No.1793674 >>1787694 I like this design a lot. There's some weird charm into it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 17:57:41 2014 No.1793694 >>1793656 Pyra is GOAT, I love how in your face she is. She doesn't afraid of anything. >Virgil I gotta play Timestalkers, asap.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 18:01:19 2014 No.1793706 >>1793656 >>1793694 Fuck, I'm a retard. I meant Nigel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 18:07:29 2014 No.1793723 >>1793674 It's because dat face is adorable.

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Tue Jul 22 18:09:18 2014 No.1793736 >>1793723 More like you can sort of see her red tunic beneath the robe, a clever way of saying she's new to this adventuring business.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 12:21:02 2014 No.1796251 >>1793736 >>1793723 >>1793674 it's a shame the actual sprites where copy paste shite

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 12:44:51 2014 No.1796331 File: 379 KB, 576x635, 1365889565198[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Speaking of Shining Force and love interests... Was...was Mae Max's love interest? The ending implies something, but she's a centaur, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 13:27:56 2014 No.1796452 >>1796331 There's barely any dialogue to work with, but I got the impression that it was only a one-way interest. Max could do a lot better.

Anonymous Wed Jul 23 13:49:10 2014 No.1796519
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>>1796331
Really?
I remember Narsha saying something in the ending that made me think she was in love with him, but it's been years since I last played the game, so I'm not 100% sure.

Anonymous Wed Jul 23 14:27:06 2014 No.1796608
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>>1796519
>Narsha
You played the remake, which has an affection system of sorts for all characters. I think it took into account talking to them in the hq, always letting them fight with you, and not getting them killed. Whoever has the highest affection will say a few lines after the final battle. You probably got Narsha (who's a remake-only character) because you used her the most, likely due to her game-breaking nature. When I played through the remake, I got Domingo.

In the original, only Mae (and I think Lowe) have dialogue after the final battle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 14:30:47 2014 No.1796619 >>1796331 >but she's a centaur, right? That never stopped hentai artists.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 15:35:23 2014 No.1796779 So how good are the Shining Force games? Are they comparable to Fire Emblem or Warsong/Langrisser?

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Wed Jul 23 15:37:51 2014 No.1796784

>>1796779
First two are pretty casual compared to Fire Emblem (though later Langrisser games put both series to shame with their complexity), but III's a good deal more involved and has one of the best JRPG stories out there. Good thing there's English scripts and the patches almost complete.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 16:18:57 2014 No.1796902 >>1796784 I really think SF3 doesn't get enough credit. Either people don't know about the other scenarios' existence, or are too lazy to emulate Saturn. That fucking scenario 3, man. SFCD is also cool, too bad there's no exploration, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 14:30:20 2014 No.1800347 >>1788461 Tony's art is great, but just doesn't fit in juvenile RPGs with childish narratives. It would work better with darker, more "adult" games.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 18:15:11 2014 No.1800960 >>1800772 >Tails is Grounded OH SHIT

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 18:33:21 2014 No.1801030 >>1788461 I have the same problem with Taka as I have with Urushihara, I've seen waaaay too much porn of them and now I can't take their designs seriously. Heck, I watched Fault not even a week ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 20:31:16 2014 No.1801482 >>1800772 Is there anything NOT wrong with this picture? Jesus Christ. >Guntz's face >/co/ Max >Tao the American Gladiator, constructed entirely out of pipe cleaners >Male

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 01:26:38 2014 No.1802412 >>1787487 I don't remember this? What it the first or second? I had the werewolf in my ending

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 01:34:47 2014 No.1802426 >>1796331 Yeah Mae had a huge crush on the main PC

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 01:36:21 2014 No.1802431 >>1802412 you made out with the where wolf?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 01:50:38 2014 No.1802465 File: 23 KB, 199x212, Zylo.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1802431 remember me ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 10:38:08 2014 No.1803429 >>1801030 >Tony Taka makes porn ...now I know.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 10:49:52 2014 No.1803442 >>1802412 Second, Max wasn't blonde.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 10:55:46 2014 No.1803452 >>1803429 So does practically every single Japanese illustrator on the planet. Except maybe Takehito Harada, I don't think he draws hentai.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 18:54:28 2014 No.1804589 >>1803452 Actually...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 18:55:40 2014 No.1804590 >>1787694 What if she was the protagonist?

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Fri Jul 25 18:59:23 2014 No.1804596 >>1804590 There's always fan fiction, lol.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 19:05:52 2014 No.1804607 >>1802412 There's a werewolf in SF1, SF2 and SF3, but only the first game's remake had a affection system, like >>1796608 said. OP's image is from SF2.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 19:27:54 2014 No.1804647 File: 54 KB, 670x474, thatfeel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Boy I sure do miss shining force, if only they had not dropped the ball with neo and exe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 19:42:31 2014 No.1804667 >>1790856 >http://strawpoll.me/2165923 Domingo is the only right answer or Hans

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 19:45:45 2014 No.1804675 >>1796608 I'd a Domingo Would you a Domingo?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 01:34:09 2014 No.1805589 Is the GBA remake for Shining Force better than the original?

Anonymous Sat Jul 26 02:08:55 2014 No.1805667
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>>1805589
To me personally they are about the same, but some folks will argue that some of the changes and additions to the gba version make the game worse. Its worth it to give it a play since it offers a fresh perspective on an old classic.

Anonymous Sat Jul 26 02:50:01 2014 No.1805761
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>>1805589
Gameplay wise, the system has been refined and updated. For example, you now have an item box to store things your characters aren't holding, Max gets a super Egress and an attack spell, stuff like that. It plays about the same.

There's a new, and optional, gimmick about using cards. A remake-only character equips character cards to copy your character's effects, clone them, or giving them extra turns. He can also copy effects from enemy cards. Needless to say he's totally game-breaking if used right. Other new characters include Narsha, seen on >>1805667, has great stats and a game-breaking spell set, too.

All in all it's easier than the old version, but that's where the star system comes in. When you beat the game, you get a save with a star on it, a new game + of sorts where the difficulty is ramped up a bit. The neat part is that you can stack stars by beating it over and over, so the game keeps getting harder and harder. I remember a guy who had 20+ stars, it made the enemies impossible but also buggy due to their extremely hard stats, he had to exploit these bugs to win.

The music is remixed from the original, and although muddled by the GBA's hardware it's quite good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nn4Pou3ekA

The story is more cohesive. The original writer for Shining Force, Masaki Wachi, didn't work in any of the sequels (which is why they threw a bunch of retcons at the story), but he was brought back as scenario writer for the remake. The story is better explained and it's more sci-fi than before. You can also talk to all your characters to get to know them (part of the affection system mentioned on >>1796608), many of them explain more about the lore and backstory of the game.

The graphics are good, but the art style is different. It's very pastel, it feels like it's made on color pencils or something. The battle animations look weird sometimes. Dark Dragon in particular way worse in-game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 05:18:53 2014 No.1806023 File: 18 KB, 1280x960, His rain brings all the gays to the yard.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1804675 >Domingo Not his gay brother Amigo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 11:54:00 2014 No.1806682 >>1805761 Are there any available save files out there where the game is already at a decent difficult pace? I heard it's super easy on a first playthrough but I don't really think I could play a single game enough times until it became challenging.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 12:58:04 2014 No.1806841 File: 111 KB, 654x482, references.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1793656 Ah, here's a better quality screenshot. She's talking about Dark Sol / Mephisto.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 15:59:14 2014 No.1807312 >>1806682 The Shining Force gamefaqs save page has a file to play the game from the beginning with the first star earned.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 16:04:07 2014 No.1807324 File: 113 KB, 870x790, 654654.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >16 years of playing only Scenario 1 >get to play Scenario 2 >finally see the other half of Saraband It's like seeing boobs for the first time all over again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 16:24:49 2014 No.1807386 >>1807324 If you thought Medion was a badass from his appearances in Scenario 1, you'll be extremely disappointed. Some of actions anger the fuck out of me. Everything about the third scenario is godlike, though. Have fun.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 03:09:11 2014 No.1809161 >>1807386 I need to get a USB saturn pad. Trying to play with a PSX layout is annoying

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 03:41:51 2014 No.1809254 the only game in the series i played for an ungodly amount of time was shining the holy ark i dont know, it was ok. i dont really remember much from it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 07:35:08 2014 No.1809539 File: 15 KB, 140x292, slade.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw Slade never got anyone

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 08:16:21 2014 No.1809575 >>1809539 The one thing that was always a put off for me with the Shining games was the anthromorphs. And this was back when I was a kid before I had Internet and subjected to furry nonsense. I hated having them in my parties.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 09:57:13 2014 No.1809695 >>1807386 Daddy issues - the MC.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 15:09:12 2014 No.1810297 >>1809575 you sound like you where a real joy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 19:29:55 2014 No.1811306 >>1806023 Actually Amigo is female and Domingo is male. At least jap artists think that.

Anonymous Sun Jul 27 21:28:50 2014 No.1811730

>>1809575
Agreed.

I didn't mind using domingo, bleu, or zylo, but I hated all the god damned centaurs and birdmen and that stupid furry healer and mage. I know they got Aura 4 and Bolt 4, respectively. I didn't care because I didn't want to have to look at their stupid faces.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 21:47:25 2014 No.1811805 >>1809161 Try one of the SFIV pads. Despite what everyone says about them and >Madcatz they work rather well. I've still got the two that I got when SFIV came out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 21:53:20 2014 No.1811824 >>1811805 >Try one of the SFIV pads. Despite what everyone says about them and I just generally really like everything about the saturn pad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 18:27:39 2014 No.1814364 File: 43 KB, 830x624, WaitThatsTerrible.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1811730 >zylo >not furry

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 20:11:58 2014 No.1817809 >>1805667 >she throws watermelons at the enemy Best attack animation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 17:25:45 2014 No.1820325 File: 214 KB, 956x1776, 1799.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1817809 Narsha is my favorite of the new characters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 17:27:55 2014 No.1820328 Can someone in this thread sell me on SF3? I've tried to get into once but failed. What gameplay mechanics are the most interesting?

Anonymous Wed Jul 30 18:39:24 2014 No.1820571

>>1820328
That's the problem. There really isn't much to these games and I say that despite being a big fan of the series. Even though 3 is the deepest of the series, it's still rather shallow compared to similar games.

The only hoops to jump through are ones you set up yourself, like trying to max out friendship status between characters, or leveling a character's affinity for all of their weapon types. It's understandable that there just might not be enough to these games to keep people interested.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 31 09:22:34 2014 No.1822705 >>1788538 As soon as I get more centaurs with spears most of the regular roster gets to stay in the basement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 31 09:31:51 2014 No.1822712 >>1790961 No, that shit probably has disc rot by now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 31 09:34:34 2014 No.1822713 >>1796331 Yeah, she wanted his inferior human penis despite the fact that it would be like sliding a hotdog down a hallway. I always thought she had a cute portrait, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 31 09:56:38 2014 No.1822751 File: 184 KB, 640x360, fnk_bowlin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1800772 What the hell is wrong with Max?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 31 12:41:54 2014 No.1823085 >>1805589 I rather like most features of it and I enjoy the colour pallet more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 31 12:58:50 2014 No.1823119 >>1823085 >and I enjoy the colour pallet more. That's the only reason why I'm having such an hard time getting into the GBA remake. It's all so fucking bright.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 31 13:01:45 2014 No.1823124 >>1823119 Frankly, I enjoy the GBA version more because of the garish colour palette of the original is less pleasing to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 31 14:55:45 2014 No.1823404 >>1822713 Sounds like true love.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 31 17:09:37 2014 No.1823736 >>1822713 What she'd be riding under him!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 31 17:33:06 2014 No.1823785 >>1823736 I know those words but I'm not sure what you are saying.

Anonymous Thu Jul 31 21:08:48 2014 No.1824283
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>>1822713
That's not how hearse posse works. Once you're inside, the huge muscles that line the walls grip onto you like a blood pressure gauge. It makes for a pretty wild ride, or at least that's what __/v/ says.

>cute portrait
GBA, I hope. The genesis one is awful. Now May on the other hand...

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 01:24:07 2014 No.1824968 >>1787487 Will we ever get more Shining games in the vein of the first three?

Anonymous Fri Aug 1 04:39:09 2014 No.1825313

>>1824968
I doubt it. The guy currently in charge of the franchise for Sega has a vendetta against the old games. Not sure if you're familiar with the fiasco, but a couple of years ago he had YouTube shut down a bunch of channels that had Shining Force-related videos. And not just gameplay videos, but videos of people showing their collection of Shining games or just discussing the series.

I don't have the screenshots, but the guy went on a rant because fans kept asking him to make something more like the old games instead of the hack'n'slash garbage they've been doing since Shining Tears.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 11:31:22 2014 No.1825728 How different are Shining Force and Fire Emblem as their gameplay is concerned?

Anonymous Fri Aug 1 12:02:32 2014 No.1825794

>>1825728
I only played the Genesis and GG ones. AFAIK, there is no permanent death, even having the MC die will warp you out of battle.
You can grind.
There is no weapon or magic triangle.
Enemy and player turns aren't separated in phases, instead units get their turn according to their speed stat.

All in all, Shining Force feels very simplified compared to other TRPGS. I still like them as they were my introduction to the genre, but you may find them too dull.

Anonymous Fri Aug 1 12:06:13 2014 No.1825796

>>1825728

shining force is simpler, no permadeath, your weapons dont degrade and there is few abilities to units other then raw stats or magic, only enemies really have abilities and they are usually only simple things like resistance to magic or a special attack.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 17:39:42 2014 No.1826639 File: 19 KB, 240x160, angry mae.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1824283 She looked fine in the GBA version.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 2 01:51:17 2014 No.1827970 >>1796331 How did you not catch that she wanted Max?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 2 07:40:40 2014 No.1828441 >>1827970 Maybe Anon can't catch a hint?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 2 19:56:44 2014 No.1829790 So how does Vandal Hearts compare to Shining Force in gameplay? I always wanted to give VH a try.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 2 20:44:37 2014 No.1829939 >>1829790 completely different and kind of a pain to level your characters

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 2 21:10:27 2014 No.1829997 >>1829939 Oh, how so?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 2 21:17:14 2014 No.1830008 >>1829997 >Oh, how so? you can't replay maps and there are very few if any side missions, if oyu don't play it perfect you can really end up with your characters dragging

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 2 21:18:38 2014 No.1830010 >>1830008 Sounds like the kind of game that could use NG+-

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 2 21:27:50 2014 No.1830023 >>1830008 None of that matters when the MC is invincible, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 3 12:58:18 2014 No.1831609 bump

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 4 10:31:16 2014 No.1834118 >>1793656 I bought that game immediately after seeing Nigel on the back cover. By, was I disappointed.

Anonymous Mon Aug 4 10:45:16 2014 No.1834129

>>1809539
>Never had a problem being a male protag in games and didn't identify with the femme fatal types anyway
>Slade turned me on to rogue archetypes and was my first husbando
>Pissed that I couldn't hook up with Slade and got that princess with the personality of soggy toast instead

Why do these games always shoehorn the worst love interests for the protag?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 4 10:50:58 2014 No.1834132 File: 94 KB, 241x267, no yiffing.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1834129

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 06:10:01 2014 No.1836608 >>1834129 Rat or human wouldn't have mattered. I like rogues.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 06:29:34 2014 No.1836637 >>1787487 The blonde is much hotter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 06:37:03 2014 No.1836643 File: 164 KB, 571x800, Mae.(shining.Force).full.1212538.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] <3

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 16:28:58 2014 No.1837782 >>1836637 Agreed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 19:57:28 2014 No.1838330 File: 82 KB, 500x784, masqurin_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Force 3 had best Waifus

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 20:04:37 2014 No.1838354 >>1838330 Grace made me a furry on the spot. I'd do anything to snuggle that kyantol

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 20:10:16 2014 No.1838371 File: 82 KB, 640x488, shf3_01_053.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1838330 Whoops.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 20:14:06 2014 No.1838385 File: 51 KB, 220x335, the_end17[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1838330 Scenario 3 had the cutest grills, in my opinion. Spiriel, Isabella, Marky...and the MC even got the girl in the end.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 20:14:22 2014 No.1838387 File: 58 KB, 273x303, 1406800157127.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1838354 >furry >elf

Anonymous Tue Aug 5 20:27:57 2014 No.1838441
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>>1838387
Caintaurs are quite literally dog furries. The word is a portmanteau of canine and centaur (which to the Japanese just means any human-animal cross. Draco Centaur over here is a good example of this quirk.)

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 20:36:24 2014 No.1838468 >>1838371 I wish it would had been in 2D instead. 90's console 3D graphics doesn't age well at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 21:02:59 2014 No.1838539 File: 140 KB, 800x600, shining_force_iii-wallpaper2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1838385 I commend your taste but Masqurin is just too delightful

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 22:40:18 2014 No.1838753 >Play SF3 >get to the refugee stage in chapter 2 good god this is a horrible experience

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 22:59:26 2014 No.1838797 >>1838753 I had to look up a walkthrough on youtube to figure out how to rescue all of the refugees. There is literally only one way to do it.

>>	Don Rumata !!VTxEkVDN8r+ Tue Aug 5 23:03:48 2014 No.1838806 >>1838468 The special effects were amazing even compared to the best looking PlayStation games, so that's something forever in III's favor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 23:33:20 2014 No.1838853 >>1838797 I lost one refugee and said fuck it Im not doing that again

Don Rumata !!VTxEkVDN8r+ Tue Aug 5 23:36:15 2014 No.1838864

Remember when Total Biscuit was doing that Shining Force III LP for Something Awful? I don't know if it all went away during the Shining Ark attack, but he did a very professional, detailed partial run of Scenario 1 before moving on to bigger things. The best part was when Dantares kept getting criticals at the mansion map.

Anonymous Tue Aug 5 23:43:38 2014 No.1838880

So I'm a little ways into SF1. Just got to Chapter 3.

I'm having fun so far. The story seems to be non-existent, but that's okay I guess.

Gong is my favorite character. He can't really take many hits, but boy does he hit like a truck.

I'm curious as to how the leveling in this game works. Is it like FE where you get random stat increases with each level? And how much randomness is there? Because Gong just got 5 attack points on his previous level up.

Also, is it similar to FE in that archers are fucking useless?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 00:05:31 2014 No.1838928 File: 90 KB, 510x432, cybel.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] and now I have a cutie centaur

Anonymous Wed Aug 6 00:15:44 2014 No.1838959

>>1838880
Nah, Archers are solid in Shining Force in general. They only hit things 2 or 3 tiles away depending on their weapon, but since you have 12 peeps in the force it's more to beat on someone who is already surrounded or in unreachable locations.

And there is quite a bit of randomness in the level-ups. Characters have a 'forecast' which biases their level ups, but the SF1 algorithm is pretty whack at times, meaning you can get 5 or more on a level up. The growth is slow, but once you can promote people, the stat growth becomes much nicer. HP remains pretty shit for most of the game though when compared to Shining Force 2, which keeps mages quite deadly and criticals devastating.

I once had Tao gain +13 agility on a level up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 00:25:55 2014 No.1838984 >>1805761 Well stated.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 00:30:18 2014 No.1838994 >>1825313 We should assassinate him

Anonymous Wed Aug 6 03:07:09 2014 No.1839308
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man SF3 sure does like to have silent protagonists Synbios toss around a lot ellipses.

The game is better when you pretend every time he says ..... he's really just sighing with put upon resignation. Like he doesn't even care anymore and is just going along with whatever

Don Rumata !!VTxEkVDN8r+ Wed Aug 6 03:11:17 2014 No.1839314

>>1839308
He speaks in the other two scenarios, so the ellipses are just a holdover from previous Shining games. Synbios doesn't have as much of a stake in the overall conflict as Medios and Julian, but he's still got a reason to defeat Domaric and, inevitably, Bulzome.

Anonymous Wed Aug 6 03:14:05 2014 No.1839319
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>>1839314

yeah I figured he'd be chattier there and Medion and Juliane will suddenly become mutes in their respective campaigns

unrelated, is there any rhyme or reason to how special attacks work?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 19:07:40 2014 No.1840778 >>1839308 I hate silent protagonists in tactic games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 19:25:54 2014 No.1840802 File: 25 KB, 480x320, Shining%20Force%20-%20Resurrection%20of%20the%20Dark%20Dragon_123[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Time to get that Jogurt army on the road.

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Wed Aug 6 22:57:21 2014 No.1841474 >>1840802 I voted for Jogurt in the strawpoll, this gets my approval.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 18:24:41 2014 No.1843535 >>1841474 There's a strawpool?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 8 02:15:06 2014 No.1844583 >>1838959 >playing SF1 and abusing AI derps to kill bosses from 3 squares away with no retribution

Anonymous Fri Aug 8 08:29:28 2014 No.1844956
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>>1839319
In the scenes which overlap between Sc. 1 and 2(like the confrontation with the Imperial soldiers in Saraband) Medion will talk in Sc. 1 while Synbios talks in Sc. 2.

It's pretty similair to how Golden Sun switched the silent protaganists between 1 and The Lost Age, but now with overlapping events.

Anonymous Fri Aug 8 13:16:27 2014 No.1845336

So, I got a ways into SF1. Chapter 7.

I liked it at first, but I just ended up getting really frustrated. Seems like no matter how much defense I got, I was still taking huge chunks of damage and doing very little. And probably half of my attacks would just miss.

I even grinded my characters up to 20 and promoted them early in Chapter 6.

Fucking Mishaela was almost impossible because I just couldn't do enough damage to her since most of my attacks would miss. I had to egress a whole bunch to grind my way up a bit just to kill her.

And to top it off, the UI is fucking abysmal. Comparing units stats is a damn chore.

I'm giving the GBA remake a shot before I go to SF2.

Anonymous Fri Aug 8 14:31:00 2014 No.1845523

>>1845336
>before I go to SF2

You could follow the chronology and go SF1 -> SFCD -> SFGFC -> SF2

There's a fuckton of references and recurring characters in SFCD and SFGFC. Some SF1 characters even join your party, now a little older.
CD is my favorite SF game after 3.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 8 14:33:41 2014 No.1845530 >>1845523 >after 3 *SF3 Scenario 3

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