/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1648183]

>THE WIND FISH
>IN NAME ALONE
>FOR IT IS NEITHER
>turns out to be both

[Anonymous No.1648384]

>>1648183
Wind Fish has such a weird facial expression. It's like he's ashamed to be alive.

[Anonymous No.1648406]

>>1648384
Look at him!

Wouldn't you be, if you looked like that?

[Anonymous No.1648823]

>>1648406
I would be very embarrassed. He should remove some of those rugs he wears and put on some real clothes.

[Anonymous No.1648826]

a whale isn't a fish though

[Anonymous No.1648840]

>>1648384
all whales look dumb like that

[Anonymous No.1648846]

>>1648826
He's not a fish; he's a whale.

[Anonymous No.1648875]

>>1648846
that was the point of the post

[Anonymous No.1648878]

>>1648384
>>1648406
>>1648823
>>1648840
>">hhey, don't make fun of me, guyys... i'm gonna telll..."

[Delicious Flat Level !9Y.AGAi22w No.1648891]

>>1648183
He's not a fish and he's not made of wind.

[Anonymous No.1649040]

what if zelda was a wind fish

[Anonymous No.1649091]

>>1649040
>implying the wind fish isn't zelda's true form

[Anonymous No.1649108]

>>1648384
iktf

[Anonymous No.1649135]

>>1648183
Still the best 2D Zelda.

[Anonymous No.1649141]

ITT: bullying the wind fish.

[Anonymous No.1649234]

Who'd win in a fight, Ganon or the Wind Fish?

[Anonymous No.1649246]

>after the events of Link's Awakening, Link went on a quest to obtain the Triforce and wished Koholint Island and all its inhabitants back into existance

[Anonymous No.1649341]

>>1649246
i'd play it

[Anonymous No.1649364]

>>1649341
It'd be a pretty boring game. Link already got the Triforce at the end of LttP and used it, and later on he stepped before it and was thrust into the two Oracle quests.

In other words; he knows exactly where it is.

[Anonymous No.1649412]

The Wind Fish is such an asshole. Link awakes him from an endless sleep, and he lives Link stranded at sea.

[Anonymous No.1649415]

>>1649364
>he knows exactly where it is.
In the back of his hand, more or less.

[Anonymous No.1649432]

>>1649415
That's one part of the triforce.

[Anonymous No.1649456]

>>1649141
>implying he doesn't deserve every bit of it

[Anonymous No.1649641]

>>1649412
to be fair, link was kind of a dick, since waking the wind fish was the end of koholint.

[Anonymous No.1649695]

>>1649412
>Link stranded at sea.
He see seagulls, and seagulls usually hang out near the coast.

[Anonymous No.1649776]

>>1649695
Not usually. Always. Seagulls need somewhere to sit down every now and again so they're always within flying distance of land. They're continental birds, never living around isolated islands. For example, Hawaii? No seagulls. None. The islands are too far from any continent for seagulls to get there.

Knowing this fact makes me hate that bullshit story about Eddie Rickenbacker or however it's spelled.

[Anonymous No.1650065]

>tfw Marin was both created and destroyed by Link
>tfw Marin will never come back
>tfw Marin was the best Zelda girl

[Anonymous No.1650108]

>>1650065
If you forget her she will never forgive you.

[Anonymous No.1650114]

>>1650065
>>1650108
I didn't ask for these feels.

[Anonymous No.1650118]

>>1650065
>>1650108
>>1650114

She wanted to be a bird so she could flay far, far away from Kohlint Island

[Anonymous No.1650127]

>yfw Hyrule Historia suggests that Marin and Tarin are likely a product of Link's memories of Malon and Talon

[Anonymous No.1650132]

>>1650065
>>1650108
>>1650114
>>1650118
>tfw no mythical beast's dream-figment for a gf

[Anonymous No.1650141]

>>1650065
At the very least Marin is a joint creation of Links subconcious mind and the Wind Fish.

fucking the wind fish is the closest thing to being with Marin.

[Anonymous No.1650158]

>>1650141
>implying

[Anonymous No.1650174]

>>1650158
Because Awakening takes place after OoT on the time line, I have a theory that Marin was made of memories of Malon from Link's past life.

[Anonymous No.1650184]

>>1650158
>>1650174
In other words, Link's love for Malon/Marin defies time and death.

[Anonymous No.1650198]

>>1650184
>defies time and death
And reality, apparently.

>>1650174
Except few games in the series are part of the same reality.
tLoZ and AoL are the same reality.
aLttP and aLBW share one, too, along with LA, possibly.
OoT and MM obviously take place in the same reality.
OoS and OoA are definitely in the same reality.
WW, MC, PH, TP, ST and SS each are in realities independent of all other Zelda titles, IIRC.
Similar to the FF series, the varying realities of the Zelda series are not themselves linked. Maybe a cross-reality Zelda title would change that. I'd play it.

[Anonymous No.1650241]

>>1650198
Oh, now, that actually made it really clear that the Oracles games all share the same link WITH aLttP and LA, even back in the day before all the timeline stuff. It made the whole thing pretty darn epic, but the thing was, we got all those quests of Link proving himself, but never got to see what all of that was for. There seemed to be a big conclusion it was all supposed to be leading up. I haven't played ALBW yet, but I hope it is that, that while LA and Oracles were the voyage and, ALBW might be return of the hero.

[Anonymous No.1650242]

>>1648878
Fuck you, you killed my qt ;_;

[Anonymous No.1650250]

>>1650141
Does this mean that love between Link and Marin was really between Link and the Wind Fish?

[Anonymous No.1650259]

>>1650250
>>1650242
>>1650198
>>1650184
>>1650174
see
>>1650127

[Anonymous No.1650272]

>>1650259
Derp, my post in >>1650174 was sayig the same thing as >>1650127. I just didn't notice that post.

[Anonymous No.1650282]

>>1649641
He didn't want to get stuck in imaginary land forever.

It was an acceptable sacrifice.

[Anonymous No.1650286]

>>1650127
You should probably add that the LA Link did meet an incarnation of Malon and Talon during Oracle of Seasons, so that people don't get stupid ideas about OoT Malon and Talon.

[Anonymous No.1650296]

>>1650250
Probably

[Anonymous No.1650303]

>>1650174
>>1650184
The LttP/Oracle/LA Link met an incarnation of Malon and Talon during the events of Oracle of Seasons.

[Anonymous No.1650315]

>>1650286
>>1650303
Was this BEFORE or AFTER LA continuity wise? I think its after, right? I mean LA was made before, but continuity is a sly devil.

[Anonymous No.1650340]

>>1650315
The Oracle games were made long after LA, but they are set just before LA in the (in)famous canon timeline. Link is even shown getting on a very familiar boat at the end of an Oracle Linked Game, so it's the same Link.

[Anonymous No.1650363]

>>1650340
Okay then. It's been a while, so all that kinda stuff is rather blurred in my head. Thank you for clearing it up. Regardless, it sticks with Malon/Marin memories thing, and is hardly even that different from the OoT theory thing since we're talking about a person from another dimension.

[Anonymous No.1650375]

>>1650363
Yeah. Though I try to ignore the repetitive appearance of so many OoT and MM characters in the Capcom handheld Zeldas. I can understand Link, Zelda, and even Impa having multiple incarnations through the ages, but Malon, the Mask salesman, and even Tingle? (Though the Mask salesman is probably the same guy in every time period and reality...)

[Anonymous No.1650435]

The Malon/Marin thing is just a lazy retcon anyway since at the time LA's was made the idea of Malon hadn't been created yet, so this whole "she's based on another girl" was not even an idea the game's creator's could've had. Frankly making her be a copy of someone else just dilutes her specialness.

[Anonymous No.1650450]

[Anonymous No.1650461]

nevar 4get

[Anonymous No.1650549]

>>1650259
How could LA's Link remember characters he's never met? OoT's Link is not the same person as LA's Link, you know. The stories of each game do not occur in the same reality.

>>1650286
There's no evidence that LA is in the same reality as OoA and OoS. The best thing I can think of is just as all the various Links are unrelated (which is ironic since... you know... link...) but nonetheless similar, the various Malon/Marins and Talon/Tarins are also unrelated but nonetheless similar.
I mean... Nayru's supposed to be a Goddess. Then she's an Oracle. Then she's a regular ol' person trying to buy a house. Each, for lack of a better word, incarnation is unrelated with the other but shares some strikingly similar traits.
Like Ness and Ninten from EB and Mother respectively.

[Anonymous No.1650578]

goin' old skool

[Anonymous No.1650579]

>>1650435
It's not even intentional. The Oracle games reused most of the OoT and MM NPCs.

[Anonymous No.1650583]

>>1650549
>There's no evidence that LA is in the same reality as OoA and OoS.

Boat at the end.

Story of the Oracles fits in with Link's journey in the LA backstory.

Also, it's in the official timeline.

Counterevidence: Link hadn't met Zelda in Oracle which he should have if they are the same Link and Zelda as in LttP. But that's just a single line of dialogue.

[Anonymous No.1650705]

Wind Fish a shit
>tfw no quality Wind Fish art

[Anonymous No.1650752]

>>1650363
>>1650375
>>1650549
>These guys who keep talking about alternate dimensions/realities
There is one reality.
That is canon.
Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.1650761]

>>1650752

[Anonymous No.1650868]

>>1650583
>official timeline
Present it. To my knowledge, no such 'official timeline' exists.

This >>1650761 is not official.

[Anonymous No.1650883]

>>1650868
http://zeldawiki.org/Zelda_Timeline

>The Legend of Zelda Timeline details the official chronology of the Legend of Zelda series, as revealed by the December 2011 release of Hyrule Historia in Japan. Hyrule Historia is a compilation of official sources with Eiji Aonuma as its chief editor and therefore represents the developer's view of the chronology most accurately.[1]

[Anonymous No.1650928]

>>1650883
Just searched for the official timeline after posting that, found that article, and read it myself, actually. Yes: the whole thing.
Not only does it say that there are glaring inconsistencies with what Nintendo claims to be the official timeline but also that the developers had little involvement in the creation of said timeline, completely contradicting the claim made in that opening paragraph (the one you posted).
Furthermore, it details that there are not one, not two but at least three separate timelines/realities in which the stories occur. The article goes on to admit that even between stories that are supposed to occur within the same realm/reality/timeline, the connections are speculative at best.

This is just a very, very bad attempt by Nintendo to retcon everything to appease autists who won't accept that most of the games' stories are entirely unrelated to other games.

Even the supposedly 'official' timeline itself declares itself non-canonical, for Pete's sake! It says that the timeline is provided 'as it's currently understood' and that the timeline will change according to whatever other events they dream up.

>"Up to this point, the legends of Zelda have been surrounded by myth and mystery, but now, with the help of the following information, you will be able to discover for yourself the real history of Hyrule. [...] This chronicle merely collects information that is believed to be true at this time, and there are many obscured and unanswered secrets that still lie within the tale. As the stories and storytellers of Hyrule change, so, too, does its history. Hyrule's history is a continuously woven tapestry of events. Changes that seem inconsequential, disregarded without even a shrug, could evolve at some point to hatch new legends and, perhaps, change this tapestry of history itself." (Hyrule Historia (Dark Horse Comics), pg. 68)

So even the official timeline is non-canonical!

[Anonymous No.1651336]

>>1649776
You mean Jonathan Livingston?
Yeah, no matter how much I want to defend it, it's bullshit.

[Anonymous No.1651965]

>>1650928
Shutup cunt

[Anonymous No.1651980]

>>1649091
>Link bones Zelda. Suddenly she transforms and shows her true form.
y- you still lo- love my, r- right? ;_;

[Anonymous No.1651996]

>>1650174
Nah, the manual states she resembles Zelda, and her sprite is similar to Zelda's in the Oracle games.

[Anonymous No.1652027]

>>1650752
No, I'm talking about Labrynna, Holodrum, and Koholint Island. Not continuity universes.

Are do you consider those the portable games not cannon?

[Anonymous No.1652618]

The Wind Fish is the most powerful character in Zelda canon. Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.1652627]

>>1652618
He stops existing when Link wakes up, case closed.

[Anonymous No.1652643]

>>1652627
Sounds like you never actually played the game

[Anonymous No.1652662]

>>1652027
>Are do you consider those the portable games not cannon?
what

[Anonymous No.1652781]

>>1652662

>>1650752 had said there were no alternate dimesions realties but there clearly, and the only one is "canon."

But that goes against all the /vr/ portable Zelda games, in game, nevermind Majora's Mask, Link to the Past, A Link Between Worlds, and Twilight Princess. Alternate dimensions are a major part of zelda, just like there are different "realms" in things like Norse and Celtic mythology, and just mythology in general, which, suprise suprise, Zelda sometimes draws on.

[Anonymous No.1652807]

>>1652781
>>1650752
>>1652662

So if you're saying there's no such thing as alternate dimensions in Zelda, you're saying that you disregard a very large of the Zelda games. In fact, you only acknowledge Zelda 1, 2, OoT, Minish Cap, Four Swords, Wind Waker, and maybe (I didn't dare finish that trash, so I don't know) Skyward Sword as actually existing.

[Anonymous No.1652808]

>>1652807
*large number of

[Anonymous No.1652810]

>>1652807
Oh, and those DS games. Sorry, forgot about those.

[Anonymous No.1652923]

>>1652807
All Zelda games take place in different "universes" with the exception of games which openly state to be the same Link as a previous game.

[Anonymous No.1653018]

>>1652923
Of course that could be argued too, and it used to be official word of god fact but with stuff like the timeline, that's heavily disputed, and no longer official.

But I was talking about the more confirmed in each game alternate universes so i don't even have to get into bag of worms that IS the continuity and the Historia and shit.

[Anonymous No.1653048]

Nintendo should just adopt the commonly accepted timeline made by fans, would make it a lot easier for themselves.

Also,
>Legend of Zelda game where all 3 timelines are reconciled and merged back together

[Anonymous No.1654408]

The whole timeline thing is, frankly, autistic wankery. What's wrong with letting most of the games stand alone?

[Anonymous No.1654429]

>>1654408
I agree. It can be fun as sort of a "what if they were all connected" type thing, just to dick around with and consider, but some people take it way, way too far and treat it more seriously than the bible.

[Anonymous No.1655942]

>>1650242
>Fuck you, you killed my qt ;_;

She never existed, so she was never killed.

Also, you're a pleb for not willing her into existence as a seagull.

[Anonymous No.1656032]

Who else was disappointed when they played Majora's Mask and the band said they were going to play "Ballad of the Wind Fish" but it was just some bullshit forgettable song that sounded nothing like it

[Anonymous No.1656404]

>>1656032

Me, but I think it was actually based on one of the instruments rhythm from the original, or something like that... regardless, it was disappointing, but still nice it got a mention I guess.

[Anonymous No.1656541]

>>1650883
>The zelda games where Aonuma didn't work are in the timeline where Link failed.

He doesn't even hide it.

[Anonymous No.1656545]

>>1656541
Yeah well, that's just like, Aonuma's opinion

[Anonymous No.1659440]

>>1650242
>pssst
>hey kid
>he was your qt3.14

[Anonymous No.1659908]

The "offical" timeline has some problems and parts of it may not make sense, but I'm completely okay with it establishing that LttP, Oracles, and LA are all the same Link, because that's what I've always believed. And he's pretty much the most badass incarnation of Link ever.

1. Saves Hyrule by beating a version of Ganon who was at full power, and had the full Triforce for 100 years. This Ganon had plenty of time to master the Triforce and learn it's secrets, he created his own kingdom and built up an army of monsters, but Link still kicks his ass and claims the Triforce for himself.

2. The Triforce sends Link to two other kingdoms that need his help, Link saves them both, rescues reincarnations of the Goddess who created his world, defeats Twinrova and prevents Ganon from being resurrected.

3. On the way home he gets stuck on an island made of dreams, is made to question his own existence but continues fighting on, then gets attacked by Nightmares who make him face his greatest fears. But he still wins.

4. Finally gets back home and does whatever he does in Link Between Worlds (haven't played it yet).

What other Link has a resume even close to that?

[Anonymous No.1659985]

>>1654408
>The whole timeline thing is, frankly, autistic wankery. What's wrong with letting most of the games stand alone?

Nintendo are the ones who explicitly made a prequel to LttP (OoT) and then made multiple sequels to that prequel that were not compatible with LttP or each other.

[Anonymous No.1660014]

>>1659908
It's not the same Link in Link Between Worlds. It's a new Link who comes after the one from A Link to the Past.

[Anonymous No.1660474]

>>1660014
Does it at least tell you or give hints about what happened to him after he got back to Hyrule?

[Anonymous No.1662463]

[Anonymous No.1662474]

>>1662463
>using Kondoms
>2014

[Anonymous No.1662479]

>>1662463
>Claude M. Moyse in charge of translating

[Anonymous No.1662485]

>>1662463
What does it say? I always see this picture from the german version getting posted.

[Anonymous No.1662487]

>>1662485
>Never without a condom

[Anonymous No.1662495]

>>1662485
not without a condom

[Anonymous No.1662497]

>>1660474
Not really. I think it just talks about peace.

[Anonymous No.1662512]

>>1650127
> That isn't even the same Link

[Anonymous No.1662581]

If link goes to sleep in the dream shrine is he actually dreaming while being in a dream?

[Anonymous No.1662592]

>>1650868
>sold by nintendo and aonuma claims it's official
LOL I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S REAL I DISAGREE

[Anonymous No.1663051]

>>1662581
Sure, why not? It's not like Link is actually asleep anyways, he's just physically stuck in a universe manifested by the Wind Fish's dream.

[Anonymous No.1663072]

>>1650198
>Except few games in the series are part of the same reality.
As much as I want to agree with you on this and say this is how I view the series too, The shitty Historia Timeline completely destroys this perspective on the Zelda universe by trying to connect all the games in a split timeline.

I like it imagine that OOT and MM were their own thing, but people constantly want to connect everything together and now it's a canon thing.

[Anonymous No.1664623]