RIP Toriyama

[Anonymous No.10761087]

Thank you for giving us Chrono Trigger. We’ll always have you in our hearts.

[Anonymous No.10761101]

>we will never see another Chrono game ever again

RIP. It's over.

[Anonymous No.10761109]

>>10761101
don’t say that

[Anonymous No.10761129]

>>10761101
I'm glad actually, imagine how badly they would fuck up with a modern Chrono game.
>Chrono? Nah, you're playing as a sassy shaniqua who emasculates him at every opportunity.

[Anonymous No.10761134]

Dragon Quest is dead too

[Anonymous No.10761136]

>>10761129
That's just Chrono Cross.

[Anonymous No.10761146]

>>10761136
And that's why it will never live up to it's predecessor.

[Anonymous No.10761162]

>>10761134
I hope 12 was far enough along in the planning stages. It sounds like 12 was going to be the last game anyway under the old heads, so would be a shame to scrap it now and not pour the last remaining dudes heart into it and all of those who were understudies as both a final tribute to the creators of it and the franchise as a whole. I would be at peace with it ending after that.

[Anonymous No.10761183]

>>10761087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVn0YCMyVU0

[Anonymous No.10761190]

>>10761162
I'm pretty sure Bandai have at least 2 Dragon Quest games and 3-5 DBZ ones in works by now, and Toriyama contributed to all of them.

I doubt they will do more then just adding the "in memory of" screen to the game. I'd like it to be a proper sendoff and a farewell to the series, but we all know it won't happen with big companies

[Anonymous No.10761193]

>>10761190
But they also lost Maestro Sugiyama. The two most iconic members. Nobody really cares about Horii

[Anonymous No.10761240]

>>10761087
You do realize he was just the character designer right

[Anonymous No.10761249]

>>10761087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKgBc6SRZqE

[Anonymous No.10761251]

>>10761087
Rest in peace.

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[Anonymous No.10761263]

>>10761193
Hori is bigger than miyamoto in japan, draque is more popular than merryoh and zelda

[Anonymous No.10761264]

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[Anonymous No.10761272]

>>10761261
>>10761264
Not Chrono Trigger.

[Anonymous No.10761273]

[Anonymous No.10761276]

>>10761272
here

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[Anonymous No.10761326]

It's unfortunate that during the 90s, when CT was made, Toriyama art style leaned too much in DBZ and everyone had angular faces and muscles. DQ games (like DQ5 in the middle of picrel) suffered too.

[Anonymous No.10761386]

>>10761101
It's for the better.
Cross is mid and Takahashi (CT's graphic designer) went from doing sci-fi kino to a stiff MMO version of Chrono Trigger gameplay with nu-anime artstyle.

[Anonymous No.10761405]

>>10761129
I'm sure we'll get a shitty remake ala FF7 eventually.

[Anonymous No.10761416]

>>10761087
He probably would have liked if you didn't wait until he was dead to send him praise

[Anonymous No.10761427]

Finally Dragon Warrior can get the modern visuals it deserves. I always though Adventure Time style would be the perfect fit for the series.

[Anonymous No.10761675]

>>10761129
This, also they would just add in "quality of life" that ruins the gameplay. Let good franchises stay good.

[Anonymous No.10761820]

>wake up Chrono!

[Anonymous No.10762304]

Snu-snu.

[Anonymous No.10762423]

>>10761101
considering how bad Cross was, that's for the best

[Anonymous No.10762452]

>>10761326
Damn, the DQV art has so much soul.

[Anonymous No.10762471]

>>10761101
It hurts, Chrono bros.

[Anonymous No.10762753]

>>10761263
Maybe, but still, the art and music directions are much more immediately obvious to anybody starting the series than the story writer

[Anonymous No.10762775]

>>10761136
Literally not true, not sure man children continue to misunderstand this game

[Anonymous No.10762784]

>>10761257
Mostly marketing. Akira Toriyama was honestly the most valuable member of the dream team, pretty much all of the writing and story, game direction can be attributed to Masato Kato but he was new so he couldn't be featured in magazines like this

[Anonymous No.10762939]

>>10762775
Cross was never good and you will never be a woman.

[Anonymous No.10763207]

>>10762939
Cross was always good
>you will never be a woman.
True, why the fuck would I want to be a woman lmao

[Anonymous No.10763212]

>>10761129
>Chrono trigger
>5 different world maps all interesting and highly based
>Chrono cross
>2 same world map

God FUCK Chrono cross and anybody who likes that piece is fucking shit trash garbage.

>Tfw modern era, future era, middle ages, Jurassic era is all highly based
>Reach ice age era
>"This place fucking sucks!"
>Discover zeal
>Mfw

[Anonymous No.10763216]

>>10762784
>pretty much all of the writing and story, game direction can be attributed to Masato Kato but he was new so he couldn't be featured in magazines like this
Nah, it was very much a group effort where everybody contributed. We had a thread about this earlier. Kato did a lot but saying he did "pretty much all" is way overstating it.
>>/vr/thread/10721643
https://www.resetera.com/threads/beyond-the-dream-team-an-overview-of-masato-katos-work-and-contributions-to-chrono-trigger.561646/ (forgive the resetera link, good info in the thread and links)

Even Masato Kato wouldn't claim to do all of it
>The way that SQUARE creates their events is that they first discuss the story thoroughly with the entire project team, and then let each of the individual scenario writers freely (I say freely here, but of course, if it's not up to our standards; it's rejected) fill in the little details on the sub-events; so the people credited for writing the scenarios aren't necessarily the people who write the stories. For example, in Chrono Trigger, Mr. Yuji Horii wrote the basic plot line first; following that, it was edited and rewritten by me, and even further on after that, the sub-scenarios were created by Mr. Tokita and Mr. Kitase. So it all gets kinda' mixed up at the end. But the 12,000 B.C. part was 100% my original idea. After writing the story for this part, I also did the events for Zeal Palace, the dungeons, and everything else by myself (laughs).
https://web.archive.org/web/20110724162937/http://mitsuda.cocoebiz.com/friends/kato.html

[Anonymous No.10763242]

>>10763212
You type like a retard
>Highly based
I guess this is what I should expect from Cross hater

To counter this retarded argument I'll mention that Cross takes place on an archipelago that has very unique and diverse areas to explore. Yeah it's not as thematically exciting as traveling through time but it was going for a different tone anyway.
Seriously the fuck is wrong with you retards, can't have a Trigger thread without seething about Cross?

[Anonymous No.10763247]

>>10763242
The shit-flinging wouldn't happen if Cross was actually good and not constantly shilled by tasteless mouth breathers like you.

[Anonymous No.10763274]

>>10763247
>shilled by tasteless mouth breathers like you.
I'm not shilling anything, all you're doing is lashing out like a dumbass manchild, Cross is actually good, doesn't matter what you think anyway

[Anonymous No.10763384]

>>10761240
Actually this. Just get the guy drawing the super manga to do similar designs. It wont have as much soul but it would take the art direction in a different direction that COULD be refreshing. Not holding my breath on that last part but I haven't cared for the series since 8.

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[Anonymous No.10764662]

>>10761249
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3iHxLs5maM

[Popckorn !BuTtER.O4. No.10765383]

RIP IN PEACE AKIRA TORIYAMA
SAY HELLO TO HEAVEN SWEET PRINCE

[Popckorn !BuTtER.O4. No.10765384]

>>10761183
That image is my favorite Chrono Trigger fan art.

[Popckorn !BuTtER.O4. No.10765390]

>>10764641
LEL

> D-DONT SHOOT BEST-TRUNKS

[Anonymous No.10765504]

It's a downright terrible video game, boring combat system that is a clunky hybrid of turn-based and real-time (ATB) all that.

I don't really get how it was memed into something people pretend is the peak of a whole genre when the only thing it has over any other JRPG is that it's very easy.

[Anonymous No.10765515]

>>10765504
I actually feel bad for you

[Anonymous No.10765583]

>>10765504
That's fine if you think that, but the rest of human civilization disagrees.

[Anonymous No.10765609]

>>10761263
It's hard to Say if DQ is more popular than SMB though. If I had to bet, I'd Say overall it's SMB though, if only because it came first.
As for shiggy vs horii, I think if you ask any random japanese person they will know about shiggy more, horii os definitely not as famous as Toriyama or Sugiyama. Just like how Tezuka isn't as famous as shiggy.

[Anonymous No.10765614]

>>10762939
Cross IS good
and I AM a woman

[Anonymous No.10765662]

>>10765515
>>10765583
Case in point, fags memeing without any sort of argument

[Anonymous No.10765783]

Trigger got lucky that its pixel graphics managed to mostly obscure all the DBZ samefaces

[Popckorn !BuTtER.O4. No.10765854]

"BEST CHROℕO TRIGGER THEMED CHRISTMAS GIFT EVER"
- Time Magazine, December 2021.

Pictured, Du𝕒 Lip𝕒 scores a royal WIN with
her characterization of our favourite kitty:
Chrono Trigger's own badass Queen, Ayla!

@DUALIPA
, you rule

[Anonymous No.10766180]

happy 29th CT!

[Anonymous No.10766428]

to faraway times hits differently now.

[Anonymous No.10766439]

Ayla is the best girl. I'm glad I held on to my original copy almost 30 years. I like FF3 and Secret of Mana better, but this is my 3rd favorite Squaresoft SNES game.

[Anonymous No.10766541]

>>10765504
Don't forget the soundtrack

[Anonymous No.10766634]

>>10761087
for as good as Toriyama was, he was definitely phoning it in during the 90s. you can look at anything non-DB he worked on and all of his characters are just rearrangements of motifs and costumes he used in Dragon Ball. Just look at Tobal. Even the logo is just the Dragon Ball logo with different words.

[Anonymous No.10766689]

>>10766439
>Ayla is the best girl
You spelled Lucca wrong.

[Anonymous No.10766703]

Still probably my favorite game of all time. Toriyama's sudden death is a reminder that death can come at any moment - Believe on the Door's ONE sacrifice 2000 years ago, in your place, and you WILL go to Heaven with Him.
>Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
>And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou SHALT be saved
Acts 16:30-31

And https://files.catbox.moe/vret0e.png

[Anonymous No.10766707]

>>10761101
We will if we buy every copy of DS Chrono Trigger off of eBay, twice. (VP of Square's promise.) Togashi will illustrate all character designs

[Anonymous No.10766743]

>>10765662
>arguing with a tasteless blue-pilled bastard
Sorry faggot, I was busy enjoying Chrono Trigger and acknowledging it’s greatness.

[Anonymous No.10767251]

>>10766743
Clearly you must be forcing yourself through it if you can't name what's actually good about it
(or you're just memeing like half of these faggots)

[Anonymous No.10767546]

>>10765783
Personality is different especially between Marle and the two others.

[Anonymous No.10767553]

>>10761427
>adventure time dragon quest
FUND IT

[Anonymous No.10768097]

>>10767546
>Personality
>Marle
???

[Anonymous No.10768109]

>>10766634
>phoning it in during the 90s
lol i dont think you guys understand what being a cartoonist means
half the job is just pure speed
how fast can you draw? ok, now do it again. again. again.

dude had a style, and it sold well, so he kept it
and he was fast enough at it that he could have his fingers in the insane amount of pies he had going during the 90s

[Anonymous No.10768597]

>>10768097
wow. do we have a collage of palette swap monsters?

[Anonymous No.10768731]

>>10767251
Music, atmosphere, world design and each specific age feeling different, rather simple but massive feeling plot, great character designs, a fun active time battle system that lets you do combos between characters, amazing 16bit pixel art, multiple endings based on player decisions.

But im sure you will just poo poo away anyone with actual fondness for it as just a maymay.

[Anonymous No.10768774]

>>10761101
It's better this way

[Anonymous No.10768858]

>>10764641
>>10765783
>>10766634
Let's see your original characters, I'll let you know how I think they stack up against Akira Toriyama's

[Anonymous No.10768902]

>>10768858
This is my OC Bluema from the Greenians planet her power is maximum+1 but Goku can only fight her when the universe ends (the light redshifts)

[Anonymous No.10768916]

>>10768731
>But im sure you will just poo poo away anyone with actual fondness for it as just a maymay.
Sure bud

>Music, atmosphere, world design and each specific age feeling different
>great character designs, amazing 16bit pixel art
It does have decent music and grafix. I'd rather watch an actual anime instead of dumping a couple dozen hours into mashing A

>rather simple but massive feeling plot
Rather simple is a concise way to put it. Wake up, kill the ancient evil, even if you end up facing it at the height of its power

>a fun active time battle system that lets you do combos between characters
What's fun about a system that can not only be beaten by mashing A, but doesn't even let you do anything else since the majority of the attacks are damage moves with different animations and the difficulty is nonexistant?

>multiple endings based on player decisions.
meme, you get one real ending, like one other real ending and a handful of variations of the same thing when you go into ng+ and beat lavos early.

Like, it's an incredibly shallow game that's outperformed by at least a third of the entire JRPG library, from persona to any non-kusoge dungeon crawler. it's a kid's game that should be something you compare with Math Blaster and whatever lego game your mom bought you because it was on sale, not a "top 10 masterpiece of all time"

[Anonymous No.10768926]

>>10768916
>meme, you get one real ending, like one other real ending and a handful of variations of the same thing when you go into ng+ and beat lavos early.
Finally, somebody else who figured this out.

[Anonymous No.10768928]

>>10768902
impressive, very nice. have you ever considered a career as a manga-ka?

[Anonymous No.10768980]

>>10768916
I’m not even gonna read all this dog shit. Chrono Trigger is the goat in plenty of different aspects and it paved the way for a lot of other games. It’s like Link to the Past & Final Fantasy had a baby with a hint of Earthbound but explaining it to fuckin’ monkey like you is a waist of texts. Fuck you, tasteless cunt. Go play Sonic or some gay shit.

[Anonymous No.10768993]

>>10768980
>mad because the only jrpg he played is bad

[Anonymous No.10769020]

>>10768916
shut the fuck up, nobody wants to read your navel-gazing essays

[Anonymous No.10769025]

>>10761087
Op
https://youtu.be/vniPtX1PQ7g?si=k3qkr07122i61Omz

[Anonymous No.10769037]

>>10768993
not that anon but i love chrono trigger and i don't care what you think about anything. its a fun game. im sorry but you're an insufferable faggot

[Anonymous No.10769042]

>>10769037
>ip count disappears
>immediately starts samefagging
#grindset

[Anonymous No.10769220]

>>10769042
>ip count disappears
Anon I think you need to see a psychiatrist

[Anonymous No.10769514]

>>10769042
it never worked properly anyway. you could always jump networks or reset dynamic IPs.

[Popckorn !BuTtER.O4. No.10770897]

>>10769514
yes

[Anonymous No.10771539]

>>10761101
It's for the best. Look at how shit [current year] games are.

[Anonymous No.10771638]

>>10771539
>dude games are so bad, I have to press different buttons instead of just mashing A

Plus you already have a modern CT, it's Persona 5 since it's a bad* video game propped up by aesthetics

*better than Chrono Trigger, but what isn't

[Chud Anon No.10771773]

>>10761675
Sexo

[Anonymous No.10771868]

>>10771773
Indeed

[Anonymous No.10771890]

Overated

[Anonymous No.10772993]

Here the newest, 3.0 version of the hack called Chrono Trigger + (adds playable Glenn, a new era, restores beta content and lots of other things) It's on CD Romance, but he added the Auto-Run patch to his versions, while these versions here still let you run by holding B. I included the author's readme in both files.

Chrono Trigger+ - The Alternate Timeline.sfc
https://files.catbox.moe/h9ukbv.7z

Chrono Trigger+ - The Alternate Timeline (Balanced Difficulty version).sfc
https://files.catbox.moe/76onip.7z

[Anonymous No.10773382]

>>10771890
Deservingly so

[Anonymous No.10773385]

>>10771638
Just because you can date underage girls, doesn't mean it's better.

[Anonymous No.10773390]

>>10768902
Haha that's great, mind if i make her Cheelai's sister?

[Anonymous No.10773395]

>>10767553
AT had a ton of licensed shit in the past, it's weird they haven't done a DQ like yet.
Fucking SU had decent RPG even. So why not?

[Anonymous No.10773406]

>>10765783
sorry it didn't feature Shinji's ugly mug all over the place, fag

[Anonymous No.10773479]

>>10773385
That alone proves its better.

[Anonymous No.10773669]

>>10773406
>Shinji

[Anonymous No.10774071]

>>10762452

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>>10761129
lmao culture war brain poisioned

[Anonymous No.10775001]

>>10774745
>Sweet Baby Inc doesn't exist
All the chuds are laughin at (You)

[Anonymous No.10775210]

>>10775001
NTA, but haven't you faggots realized that you should stop buying and even playing modern games all together? All these talentless shitlib writers aren't going to go away, so start making a backlog of older/retro games you plan to play and start emulating/playing them instead of getting caught up in a retarded extension of the culture war that won't achieve anything. I've done that for nearly a decade now and am enjoying gaming more than ever before.

[Anonymous No.10775240]

>>10761087
First the shining in the darkness guy. Now the Chrono trigger guy. Rie Kodama last year. Looks like our 16-bit heroes are dying like flies now =( Can we sacrifice Hideo Kojima to get Rie Kodama back please? Satan? Anyone?

[Anonymous No.10775383]

>>10775210
>implying I buy modern games like a fucking idiot zoomer rather than just being aware of these things
I have a Deck, but only because I can emulate on it and use it as a PC. Let's be friends, anon. I'm wanting to get into romhacking (not for gay QRD and spriteswap shit, but either for unique improvements or for translations), so what's your advice for me?

[Anonymous No.10775404]

>>10761101
he wasnt even involved in the sequel. dont be a hyperbolic faggot. the important thing here is that vegeta was stronger than goku when he died

[Anonymous No.10775414]

>>10775210
yeah. ironically the best way to beat themis to just let them have what they want and play the ginormous backlog of games that are still being translated while their careers go to shit

[Anonymous No.10775467]

>>10775383
Learn systems programming (via C and assembly) and Japanese. A lot of what you are trying to do with those improvements is low-level memory stuff, so C and assembly is a definite boon to learning that. Depending on the system, you might have to learn either MIPS 6502 or some other type of architecture, but there are a lot of resources online for all of them. The learning Japanese part is kinda self-explanatory, but it does train you to learn a lot about a different culture and how they use language and what not.

[Anonymous No.10775706]

>>10775467
Thanks for the reply! I can pick up kanji pretty easily, now (I can read kana and took Chinese classes), and I know the grammar, so Japanese shouldn't be an issue at this point. What do you personally recommend for learning all of those programming languages?

[Anonymous No.10775749]

>>10775706
For C/C++, I'd recommend https://www.learncpp.com/

It's free, is constantly updated (the most recent update being a week ago) and it covers all the basics of the language and things like memory management.

cplusplus.com has an amazing reference section that you can use whenever you want to check what is part of the standard C/C++ library.

Programming
Abstractions in C++ is a good book to learn a lot about data structures and algorithms. I've heard good things about it.
https://www.cas.mcmaster.ca/~qiao/courses/cs2so3/textbook/ProgAbs.pdf

[Anonymous No.10775763]

>>10775749
For the 6502, 6502.org is a great resource to learn what how to program in 6502 assembly.

For MIPS, there are a lot more resources, but https://cupola.gettysburg.edu/oer/2/ and https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/MIPS_Assembly
are good.

Honestly though, unless you absolutely have to, I would recommend sticking with C/C++ since they represent the ideas you are constructing with them better and they are less verbose. But these are here just in case. There's also x86 assembly, but at that point, you might as well use C/C++

[Anonymous No.10775929]

>>10772993
What's with hackers shilling their shitty hacks like tasteless opportunists lately? Were petty small-time hackers always such fundamentally awful people who can't for the life of them read a room?

[Anonymous No.10775974]

>>10761129
Are Japanese devs woke?

[Anonymous No.10775983]

>>10762423
I don't get the hate for Chrono Cross, it is legitimately a good game and people act like it is the shittiest game in the world. You get cool party members to choose from and an entertaining enough story to keep going. it came out before all the media franchises decided LOL TIMELINES

[Anonymous No.10775992]

>>10775983
They mainly just hate that Cross retconned Trigger's ending into "LOL Everybody died because fuck them".

[Anonymous No.10776989]

>>10761101
they were just asking fans what they'd want to see in a Chrono Trigger remake. It will get butchered too in due time

>>10775974
Yes. See: modern Square Enix, modern Capcom, modern Atlus, and modern SEGA

[Anonymous No.10777007]

>>10775992
It's also called bad writing.

[Anonymous No.10777009]

>>10773479

[Anonymous No.10777013]

>>10773669
post something that isn't awful (fetish) fanart

[Anonymous No.10777067]

>>10776989
There was already a rumor that it's already in development.
If it's not HD2D, it's gonna be even worse garbage.

[Anonymous No.10777172]

>>10761261
That doesn’t even make any fuckin’ sense. Sonic & Tails best friends but with Tails being more like a little brother and sidekick like Batman & Robin.

[Anonymous No.10777257]

>>10775992
That's not what happens at all, at least not exactly. It's entirely possible that Lynx may have killed Lucca but people saying Crono and Marle died are spouting pure bullshit and can't read

[Anonymous No.10777738]

>>10777013
You're just jelly of her vegan gainz

[Anonymous No.10778271]

>>10761101
toriyama could have lived for 100 more years and we still wouldntve seen another chrono game

[Anonymous No.10778952]

I am 32 years of age and I just beat this game this morning for the first time in my life, at the suggestion of a friend. I started about two weeks ago. I didn't know a single thing about it except for that the funny dbz man did art for it. Not gonna bother spoiler tagging since I assume everyone here has beaten it, but everything below here is spoiler rich. Going to note how my playthrough ended up and some thoughts on it, hopefully someone of you find it interesting as I assume most of you had your first experience with the game closer to the time it actually came out nearly 30 years ago.

I killed Magus. I did not revive Crono. The only character side quests I completed were Lucca's and Merle's (charge the sun stone and get the rainbow shell iirc). I didn't know I needed to have Robo in my party to finish the quest with Fiona and the skeleton monster in the sand, and I got the carpenter's tools, but didn't know how to use them for Frog's side quest. I rolled with Frog, Lucca, and Marle, and beat Lavos with this party in the high level 40's. Took a couple tries. I accessed Lavos via storming the Black Omen, don't remember which age.

I feel so fucking robbed about Crono staying dead. Yeah, that little blue retard in 2300 A.D. said to find a magician in a festival. I talked to every npc in the festival multiple times except for exactly two: Lucca's robot and the exact fucking guy I needed to talk to in the horror tent. I even entered the tent, looking for a character who I expected had the same sprite as Melchior/Balthazar etc. I had completely ruled out that I needed to talk to a fucking mini game npc to resurrect the main character. I think it's really cool that your main character can die and stay dead. That's actually tight. But I'm fucking pissed that it locked me out of Gaspar's hints for how to complete the other side quests, since his dialogue was stuck on pic related. You will now proceed to call me a zoomer for this.

Anyway, game is pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.10778964]

>>10778952
Well actually my mind is blown because I didn't even know you could continue the game this way, without doing any of those things.
I've only played the game twice though and I never cared for NG+ because the game is already laughably easy normally, playing with high level would make all gameplay entirely pointless

[Anonymous No.10778984]

>>10762939
Can you just call Chrono Cross bad without resorting to this shit meme that no one was interested in engaging with.
You're like the Justin Bieber haters, where the only reason I was still hearing about that faggot, were because of those bringing up how much they hated him.

[Anonymous No.10779002]

>>10778964
Glad you found it interesting! Yeah I after I beat it I cruised around on the wikis for a while, it's absolutely insane how many endings there are and how much freedom you have to do or not do things. And some of that is immediately obvious. Like my mind was blown when I first ended up in the End of Time hub and saw that you could fight Lavos whenever the hell you wanted to.
Also side note but the Lavos shell fight was insane slog when he took on the aspect of Nizbel. Since I had no lightning attacks I had to spend like fifteen minutes regular attacking him for an average of ~32 damage a pop.

[Anonymous No.10779032]

>>10778984
You're still not a woman, Jacob,

[Anonymous No.10779054]

>>10779032
You don't get to make fun of boomers or anything like that, so long as you're as obstinate as they are.

[Anonymous No.10780613]

>>10775749
>>10775763
Will look into these when I finally get some fresh air (hopefully by the end of the month). Thank you very much, anon(s).

[Anonymous No.10780643]

>>10778952
>the exact fucking guy I needed to talk to in the horror tent
I beat CT for the first time at 32 last month. I got all the minigame rewards in the first 30 minutes playing and I figured the doppelganger was just a fun little reward. I needed a guide for the frog quest and the Robo quest also but I wonder if that was just because I was playing the game in japanese and my japanese isnt great.
>I feel so fucking robbed about Crono staying dead
the scene where you revive Chrono is one of my favorites in the game. I found myself saying holy shit a dozen times while playing.

[Anonymous No.10781084]

>>10780643
Greetings fellow 32 year old first time CT'r.
>I got all the minigame rewards in the first 30 minutes playing
Yeah, this is the way they wanted you to play I guess. I can't ever bring myself to give a shit about carnival/festival/gold saucer/etc. minigames. I just don't care, and it bit me in the ass this time.
What party did you roll with in the end?

[Anonymous No.10781105]

>>10781084
>What party did you roll with in the end?
CT was the first JRPG I played where I loved all the companions and actively switched them out so I could play with them all. I think I beat Ravos with the starting 3 for sentimental/lore reasons but through the middle part id play with Eira, Frog, and Marle(?) the most often.

As a fun party anecdote I had Eira as my lead character after Chrono died and when I got to the airship prison section I was excited when I realized that since Eira didn't use weapons she could just fight all the guards solo while my other two characters just sat around. I later learned that it was actually pretty easy to get your weapons back but I ended up replaying that section a couple of times to explore the different paths.

[Anonymous No.10781196]

>>10781105
That's awesome, I didn't know that about the prehistoric cat lady. Fuck Dalton
What were your favorite jams? I was pretty surprised with how much I ended up liking the music in this game. There are some real bangers, I love how prominent the bass guitar sounds are in many of them.

[Anonymous No.10781283]

>>10761087
i just beat dq2 i honestly believe this is the game that defines the series and i don't think it's farfetched to say every rpg with a party owes it's success to dq2

[Anonymous No.10781342]

>>10775974
The ones that are desperate appeal to western markets like Capcom and square Enix (Dragon quest is spared, mostly because Americans don't give a shit).

[Anonymous No.10781373]

>>10781283
You've seen the light yes.
Obviously Ultima and Wizardry were there first but DQ2 was highly influencial in shaping jRPGs.
The RPG boom in Japan really started with DQ2.

[Anonymous No.10781458]

>>10781283
What? Wizardry and Ultima already had parties long before it.

[Anonymous No.10781660]

>>10781458
im sorry im not familiar with western rpgs im guessing those games were on those old school PCs

[Anonymous No.10781682]

>>10781660
Ultima and Wizardry were the two series that basically pioneered role-playing games as a video game genre. Early DQ titles were basically massive casualizations of those games - with mechanics stripped down to account for both a younger overall audience and the tiny cartridge capacity of the original Famicom.

[Anonymous No.10781831]

>>10778984
Now you understand the childish mentality of Cross haters, they literally refuse to grow up

[Anonymous No.10781959]

>>10781196
>I was pretty surprised with how much I ended up liking the music in this game
I was vaguely familiar with the music, its perhaps the best soundtrack in video game history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKex3QoPc8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXo3DrXHY8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDpPMu8EApg
the last song memories of green I consider the true Chrono Trigger theme. Its the track I think of when I think of the game.

[Anonymous No.10782028]

>>10780613
Anytime mate. Best of luck with your coding adventures.

[Anonymous No.10782147]

>>10781959
God Secret of the Forest is so good. Wandering around in that forest where it plays outside the castle was the moment I started to understand I might be playing something special.
For me it's Black Omen, but Tyran Castle is easy top 5 as well. I can't get enough of this bass. Watching this random (shittily recorded) bass cover makes it all the more fun to listen to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHy24rTpQPg&ab_channel=9reenmi1e

[Anonymous No.10783976]

What if Chrono Trigger became a proper franchise and got spinoffs?

[Anonymous No.10784008]

>>10781660
DQ2 did a lot of influencial things nonetheless, like the way each character has his own backstory that makes him just as important as the "protagonist" and with their own personality and style; or the way each enemy is represented by its own graphics which can all be seen at once (up to that point Wizardy was still stuck to having one graphic for a group oft of enemies; and if there were several groups at once only the first group could be seen). There are plenty of little things like that which became so standard it's actually hard to realize they were important at all at that time. Reducing DQ2 to Ultima-Wiz clone is very reducing, it's like saying Duke Nukem 3D is a clone of Doom or Resident Evil a clone of AitD, dismissing all the things these games were influencial for.

[Anonymous No.10784013]

>>10783976
Would be really lame.
Really undermining the whole "it was based on people's dreams" thing

[Anonymous No.10784207]

>>10783976
*coughs* Xeno- series *hack*

[Anonymous No.10784212]

>>10779032
This

[Anonymous No.10784218]

>>10777738
Next you're gonna accuse me as a cringe fatfag.

[Anonymous No.10785227]

excuse me, is this the retro artist death thread? I bring news
https://twitter.com/inomatanekomata/status/1769574473504883081?s=20

[Anonymous No.10785238]

>>10761101
>>10761162
Chances are Toyotaro will take over. He's no Akira Toriyama but he was Toriyama's protege and effectively had his blessing. So anything that would have been a Toriyama product will likely pass to Toyotaro. Maybe he'll step up his game even more now that he's the guy.

[Anonymous No.10785247]

>>10761087
You were my perfect friend, right there until the end, I'm forever missing you until we meet again.

[Anonymous No.10785257]

>>10761087
is there a good interview where Toriyama explains his design philosophy and inspirations?

[Anonymous No.10785292]

>>10785257
I can't think of any off hand. His interviews were always hilarious because half the time he barely seems to give a shit about his job. Not in a cynical way but an "I barely remember what I drew yesterday" kind of way.

[Anonymous No.10785401]

I'm thinking of playing Chrono Trigger one of these days, probably by emulating on a Wii.
Should I use the official release or is it better to use one of the retranslations?

[Anonymous No.10785410]

>>10785401
Fan translations are usually gay (and sometimes literally), even though official localizations aren't always great.

[Anonymous No.10785414]

>>10785227
Is that the Grandia guy? I still have played neither game yet, but this sucks nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.10785443]

>>10781342
You know white Americans are the ones complaining about this in America, right? It's Jews and other browns in media circles. Please don't tell me you believe everything about America that your media reports. How do you think Trump is still around and popular? Or do you just envious suffer from America Derangement Syndrome?

[Anonymous No.10785447]

>>10783976
The only "series" it should be is like Final Fantasy, where each entry is different. In the case of CT, it should be a series of dream collaboration projects. In that case, Blue Dragon was more a sequel to Chrono Trigger then Cross.

[Anonymous No.10785461]

>>10785401
For my first playthrough, I just went with the SNES version and used the Ted Woolsey uncensored patch.
It basically keeps the original translation, but does uncensor and change some dialogue and item names.

[Anonymous No.10785476]

>>10785414
Tales series

[Anonymous No.10785885]

>>10785401
the modern translation has some weird quirks woosley or whoever isn't that bad masamune is fine. MASSAMOON rather than Mah-sah Moo-nay is peak 10 year old reading comprehension. Grandleon is cool I guess actually I have no idea what it's called in the DS or PC ports. My biggest gripe is the font changes and overworld sprites being altered from the SNES versions.

[Anonymous No.10785993]

>>10761264
>late 80’s
>son holding Wii remote
I always forget how young zoomies are nowadays

[Anonymous No.10786085]

>>10785993
That's a Famicom controller, are you blind or just retarded?

[Anonymous No.10786094]

>>10785885
It remains Masamune in every modern translation, and even the most anal-retentive fan-translators outright refuse to change the sword's name like it's some kind of sacred text.

[Anonymous No.10786113]

>>10785461
>the Ted Woolsey uncensored patch.
What the-
Oh god, there'd another one of these.
What's there to fucking "bugfix" in this game?

[Anonymous No.10786437]

>>10785401
I've played SNES and DS.
Both are fine.
SNES is has Woolsey's style (which imo fits CT perfectly), while the DS version is very dry and boring but somehow manages to avoid doing what other re-translations do and make it sound fucking retarded with awkward fake-formal English and 2x-3x the verbosity for no good reason (eg FF4DS, FFT WOTL).

Sometimes I get annoyed by the renamed items and abilities but in this case I freely admit that's just Baby Duck syndrome and you'd probably be fine with either one.

[Anonymous No.10786576]

>>10785401
As someone who prefers SNES FFIII (VI ya youngins) - the DS CT script is BY FAR the best version. It is Slattery at his peak, which is funny because I remember he complained in an interview that he had less time to study it. Art through adversity, I say. Welcome to the club, man. There are maybe one or two moments Woolsey or the fan-translation do it better, but these are so minor compared to literally everything else about it. Any tard will make a major ROM hack that introduces so many more issues over a minor quibble, it's ridiculous. Last I checked, the latest "fan-RELOCALIZATION!" (aka "I can't translate Japanese BUT I SURE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH INFO TO FLEX MY RAW. WRITING. TALENT!!!!!!!") has the same "Gia / Gear", "Millennial (Inconsistent)", and misc string issues. No accounting for good taste with that echochamber.
>>10786094
In a previous thread, an anon figured that it takes like a half hour or so to change the names in Temporal Flux. The RHDN crowd truly does have some bizarre chip on their shoulder.

[Anonymous No.10787995]

>>10785476
Ah, sorry for being retarded. I was thinking Kosuke Fujishima did all the Tales of games' artwork, but I guess I haven't played that many to know. Her art style is very nice. Very cute girls.

I can see she also did the art for Surging Aura (a game I've wanted translated for a long time) and worked on the anime version of my favorite manga, City Hunter, so that's really cool.

[Anonymous No.10788003]

>>10785401
DS is THE definitive version as well as being the best translation, and it emulates perfectly on every phone. That being said, if you absolutely must play it on a wii, play the PSX version for those sweet Toriyama cutscenes. The load times are not bad at all despite what the tendie purists say

[Anonymous No.10788136]

>>10788003
>DS is THE definitive version
No definitive versions have you playing on a tiny handheld screen for babies.

[Anonymous No.10788181]

>>10787995
>Her art style is very nice.
How many women do you know with the first name "Kousuke?"
https://gazoo.com/feature/article/manga/16/02/15/

[Anonymous No.10788183]

>>10788003
Not canon.

[Anonymous No.10788195]

>>10761101
Forever is a long time, anon, especially towards the end.

[Anonymous No.10788510]

>>10788181
No, but you knew I was talking about the girl who died, dummy! S-stop trying to be embarrass m-me more than I already have been... and thanks for the cool bio link on Fuji, pretty interesting stuff

[Anonymous No.10788513]

>>10788510
Uh, I meant none.

[Anonymous No.10788864]

>>10785238
Toyotaro is okay but he seriously need better editors, or he'll end up as the next assistant-kun (see:Boruto)

[Anonymous No.10788946]

>>10786576
Heads-Up: after my friend finishes sorting baggage aka "relocalization"-thieving garbage Chrono Trigger DS script port is being eyed at next. No one should have to settle for less ever again.

[Anonymous No.10790165]

>>10761087
While I do prefer other manga artists' style more, I do greatly appreciate Toriyama-sensei's own unique style he gifted a lot of great projects. It still has its charms, and he was a big part in becoming a key member of the dream team that produced the character and enemy designs featured one of my most favorites video games and reason for me being here with Chrono Trigger. A big part of my youth in more than just manga and games, he has influenced a lot from all over. Glad to have been in the same timeline.