/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10170316]

In hindsight, Sega should've given Sonic X-treme to Travellers Tales instead of Sega Technical Institute.
Sonic R was only made in about six months, and it looks amazing for a Saturn game.
The game design probably would've been mediocre, though.

[Anonymous No.10170327]

>>10170316
Shitty fanfic thread, but i'm still surprised nobody has actually made the Sonic Saturn homebrew by now.

[Anonymous No.10170351]

I was about to burn a disc with Sonic R to try it. It looks good enough for a few hours of fun

[Anonymous No.10170434]

>>10170327
>I'm still surprised nobody has actually made the Sonic Saturn homebrew by now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhqMGLBhmc8

[Anonymous No.10170452]

>>10170351
It's probably one of the worst controlling games in existence but you get used to it after a few hours

[Anonymous No.10170617]

>>10170316
Sonic R is the most technically impressive Saturn game. Eurogods won.

[Anonymous No.10170638]

>>10170351
it's great because more than a racing game it's an exploration game and it helps that the characters aren't just vehicle shit with slightly different speed/handling values, they are fully realized with unique abilities

[Anonymous No.10170646]

C-Can you feel the sunshine now?

[Anonymous No.10170717]

>>10170316
Maybe if Traveler’s Tales got to develop and were given more than 6 months it would have looked and played great.

[Anonymous No.10170728]

>>10170434
i wish that could get expanded upon more but unfortunately (or fortunately) the dev is working on an fps engine for the saturn. it looks cool but playing fps games on the saturn controller is terrible

[Anonymous No.10170787]

Sonic R could potentially have just been a full blown platformer, with a bit of reworking. Maybe that would have been a smart thing to do, once it became clear Xstreme probably wasn't coming out.

[Anonymous No.10171108]

>>10170434
That's not finished, is it?

[Anonymous No.10171194]

In hindsight, the Sega Shiturn should've never been released. Shitty hardware, shitty library, shitty mascot, also it killed Sega.

[Anonymous No.10171208]

>>10171194
Not funny.

[Anonymous No.10171221]

>>10170351
It’s a good game, unironically.

[Anonymous No.10172142]

>>10170787
It definitely could have, especially as Travellers Tales made a bunch of good 3D platformers immediately after. With as late as R came out (even rushed) there would be no point reworking it into 'the' Sonic game though, the Saturn was already dead. The only fanfic scenario that would be of any help is if TT got the X-Treme call from day one.

[Anonymous No.10172245]

>>10170434
imagine the holier timeline where sega releases this and sonic jam for spring/summer 1997

[Anonymous No.10172302]

>>10171221
it has a nice aesthetic i guess, since its the only "complete" 3d sonic game on the saturn, but its fairly mediocre.

[Anonymous No.10172927]

>>10171194
This. The console was doomed to fail because of how badly it was designed. Why would devs waste their time with the Saturn when the PlayStation was way easier to use?. Sega should've went third party long before the Dreamcast failed.

[Anonymous No.10172947]

>>10170316
Crash bandicoot was inspired by sonic. Such irony how that became a massive hit (and could work well on saturn hardware too) while sonic just went down the shitter.
Best sonic game on the saturn is sonic jam.

[Anonymous No.10172976]

>>10172927
People exaggerate how bad the ground was for the Saturn, the genesis didn't sold well (relatively) in its first year either.
Consoles that were weaker and/or harder to produce for have won the console war multiple times, although Sega couldn't possibly be #1 for many reasons that they couldn't realistically fight against.

[Anonymous No.10173017]

>>10172976
The Saturn was a product of incompetence and corporate infighting, while other platforms like the N64 were complex due to the technology used in them. The Saturn was not well geared to 3D rendering, which was basically a death sentence during the fifth generation. Either you went 3D, or you were basically left behind. That was the market at the time, for better or for worse. Sega's own exclusives left much to be desired, and failed to show customers why they should ever consider purchasing a Saturn over the PlayStation. Had they been forward looking, they could have carved out a niche of 2D enthusiasts and tripled down on high quality 2D games. The original Rayman was a taste of how good sprite-based games could have looked that generation, and if developers chose to specialize in Saturn development they could really make those kinds of games shine. The Saturn needed a "Sonic Mania" back then, it needed a "Streets of Rage 4" and a "Golden Axe: Revenge of Death Adder" port. Pretty much every classic Sega franchise was absent on the Saturn, and that hurt it's chances the most.

[Anonymous No.10173039]

>>10170452
The controls were easy once I realised you should hold the acceleration button like you're in a video game vehicle instead of trying to hold the d-pad up to move forward

[Anonymous No.10173119]

>>10171194
SEGA CD and Dreamcast are both better systems while having a fraction of the games. Then again Saturn fans don't really like SEGA anyway

>>10173017
We almost did get a Streets of Rage 4 too, but SEGA turned it down.

[Anonymous No.10173128]

Honestly just play Dreamcast instead, there's no point in dwelling on it when there's better games out there. Even in the 90's we knew this

[Anonymous No.10173139]

>>10173119
>SEGA CD
In what way?
>Then again Saturn fans don't really like SEGA anyway
I don't think you even know all the MD/Genesis games that got sequels/spirital continuations on the Saturn.
>We almost did get a Streets of Rage 4 too, but SEGA turned it down
Ok, this one i can't defend, even one of the core design's programmers loved the Saturn, they lost a faithful developer right there.

[Anonymous No.10173165]

>>10173119
Isn't Die hard arcade better than that anyway?

[Anonymous No.10173567]

>>10173139
Saturn had Shining, Shining Force, Legend of Oasis, Dark Savior (LandStalker 2), Columns games (only in Japan), weird Golden Axe fighting game, Hang-On GP... Not really many more than that. Not counting Puyo Puyo since that was before the buyout. SEGA CD was basically Genesis on steroids, it had everything the base console had and pushed it even further.

>>10173165
After playing them both I do kind of prefer Die Hard Arcade, though if SEGA and especially Yuzo Koshiro had helped I'm sure it would've been better than what we got. It's still a fun game, though. I find Die Hard Arcade is more beginner friendly and has less wonky controls for things like dropping weapons, iirc it also has actual continues which are strangely missing from Fighting Force

[Anonymous No.10173569]

>>10173567
Forgot about Shinobi Legends, haven't played that one but I've heared mixed opinions on it. Has a better OutRun port but that's an arcade game anyway

[Anonymous No.10174929]

I had Sonic R as a kid and was obviously incredibly disappointed with it because I'd played other sonic games, its main problem is how fucking slow it is. But Metallix and Toy Tails are cool. Looking back now, you can see that Sega were always going to shill shitty knockoff Sonic games premised on a gimmick.

[Anonymous No.10175174]

>>10173119
>while having a fraction of the games
I've never looked it up before but I have to say I'm surprised the Saturn has 1045 games
>there are 785 Japan-exclusive games, making 75% of the whole list
>5 Evangelion games
Oh... So half of the entire library is just VNs?

[Anonymous No.10175331]

>>10175174
Pretty much yeah, we only got 258 games in North America. Japanese side of the library is what you'd expect, not very different from Super Famicom or N64. People who have never played a SEGA console obsess over the shmups but compared to what the Genesis and Dreamcast had they're nothing spectacular imo, most of them are on PS1 too

There's a few weird platformers like Tryrush Deppy, Super Tempo, and Ninpen Manmaru, but again, it's what you'd expect, nothing on the caliber of a proper Sonic game. We got most of the important exclusives in the west anyway.

[Anonymous No.10175338]

>>10174929
That's not really what happened, it began as a Formula 1 racing game before they decided to turn it into a Sonic game. The only real gimmick game I can think of is Spinball which only happened because Casino Night Zone was so popular in Sonic 2

[Anonymous No.10176597]

>>10170351
its good, but you need some practice

[Anonymous No.10178287]

>>10170316
What is that, the worst filter possible?

[Anonymous No.10178849]

>>10178287
It's from a site that lets you play Saturn games online, needless to say the emulation isn't very good lol