/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10168762]

This is the best GTA because the developers actually focused on fun gameplay instead of making a detailed and realistic world. San Andreas has a lot of content but most of it just isn’t fun

[Anonymous No.10168867]

Both this and SA are great, I really enjoy how you get a goal and hinted how to do it but it's always better to think outside the box. Game hints frontal assault, nah, snipe. etc. Also I'm an 80s sucker so this game is pure kino.

[Anonymous No.10168869]

>>10168762
I just wish it had swimming. Any mission related to the boats sucked and I still don't understand why they didn't implement swimming that early compared to including bikes.

[Anonymous No.10168917]

>>10168869
>I just wish it had swimming.
Honestly it makes sense to me that they neglected this. Yeah, it's kind of weird that stepping foot off the Miami beach instakills you, but VC was about the Hollywood aesthetic of Scarface and Miami Vice, which was much more about driving cool fast cars and shooting guns on land. Tedious swimming mechanics are often just not fun and I understand not wanting to prioritize them. I mean, does anyone remember with particular fondness having to grind swimming up and down in San Andreas for that one mission?

[Anonymous No.10168937]

>>10168917
fuck it lets take the meme >first who can swim is a black. yeah SA didn't make much use of it. 5 it became a thing and diving was a plot mission. Even if it didn't matter, with how much water going fucking Mario NES touch water die in fucking Miami was a bit rough esp with touchy controls at times.

[Anonymous No.10168942]

>>10168937
>"with how much water going fucking Mario NES touch water die in fucking Miami"
Are you ok anon?

[Anonymous No.10168954]

>>10168942
I'm old and retarded, no I'm not ok.

[Anonymous No.10169003]

>>10168937
>with how much water going fucking Mario NES touch water die in fucking Miami
based and strokepilled

[Anonymous No.10169008]

>>10168917
>>10168937
rockstar wanted only black people swim
SA and VCS

[Anonymous No.10169138]

>>10168917
>Honestly it makes sense to me that they neglected this.
No it really doesn't. The only actual reasoning behind them neglecting it is because they didn't have enough time to figure out how to implement how swimming would function since the game came out in just a year after GTA3.
>does anyone remember with particular fondness having to grind swimming up and down in San Andreas for that one mission?
Not the point. Not instant dying because your character accidentally falls into the water during a boat mission is a positive, not a negative.

[Anonymous No.10169156]

>>10169138
>because your character accidentally falls into the water during a boat mission
lmao shitter mad

[Anonymous No.10169217]

>>10168937
>with how much water going fucking Mario NES touch water die in fucking Miami

[Anonymous No.10169397]

>>10168762
>Reddit City
>fun gameplay
lmao it's more boring than 3 and had awful missions like that ice cream selling mission

[Anonymous No.10169884]

>>10169397
lmao the 80s bro lmao. imagine our parents back in the 80s so reddit lmao

[Anonymous No.10170063]

>>10168762
San Andreas has:

Better driving
Better movement
Better climbing/platforming
Better gunplay
Better swimming
Better flying
Better radio
Better missions
Better characters
Better story
Better world

[Anonymous No.10170085]

Scarface The World Is Yours is better than both.

BEANS FOR BREAKFAST ONCE AGAIN

[Anonymous No.10170114]

>>10170085
>t. latinx

[Anonymous No.10170132]

>>10168937
>how much water going fucking Mario NES touch water die in fucking Miami

[Anonymous No.10170202]

>>10170085
It's pretty different from VC and SA in that the story has 90% of the content and exploration and stuff are 10% but not saying it's bad because of that.

[Anonymous No.10170229]

>>10168937
/vr/ is dead they said.

[Anonymous No.10170263]

>>10169884
i wouldn't mind 80's Liberty City or San Andreas but 80's Vice City (Florida) is peak reddit and easily the worst type of 80's nostalgia setting

[Anonymous No.10170270]

>>10170263
Underage detected

[Anonymous No.10170275]

>>10170202
>exploration and stuff are 10%
just like in Reddit City it little to no side content and as for the exploration there was none of that because the map was small, soulless and barebones

[Anonymous No.10170286]

>>10170275
Yes I don't know why I mentioned VC when I should just say SA where the story is like 50% of the game. VC isn't that different to Scarface. Scarface was cool that you could order people around to bring you cars and stuff anywhere but it's kind of lame that you have to do the drug runs yourself and can't delegate them. Even if you could say that Tony is so paranoid he wants to micromanage such things himself.

[Anonymous No.10170290]

>>10170275
Carlito's Way (NY setting) >>>> Redditface (Miami setting)

[Anonymous No.10170294]

>>10170275
>Reddit City
>Redditface
stop

[Anonymous No.10170306]

>>10170286
Half of VC's "main" missions are optional i.e. side content

[Anonymous No.10170315]

>>10170306
no they aren't, you are forced to do the asset side missions to progress the game
the only true optional side content is the ''press R3'' missions like vigilante, fireman, taxi driver....

[Anonymous No.10170336]

>>10170315
https://www.gtabase.com/gta-vice-city/missions/
ctrl+f: optional

[Anonymous No.10170363]

>>10170336
>13 gang missions are optional
never knew that because i always did them first before doing the main ones
now this means i hate Reddit City more because apparently the number of it's mandatory missions is lower than what i thought and even worse is these 13 missions should have been mandatory instead of the god awful asset missions
>phone missions
i forget they exist, because they were boring and soulless unlike 3's

[Anonymous No.10170371]

>>10170294
He won't, it's one guy that does it and he does that for like 20 different games.

[Anonymous No.10170380]

>>10168762
I sell usb with ps2 games and everyone ask for SA. I think both games are trash, but the customer gets what he wants

[Anonymous No.10170383]

>>10170371
it started with Reddit Hill 2

[Anonymous No.10170427]

>>10170275
>Scarface
>soulless
Conyo, this pendejo is a cock a roach!

[Anonymous No.10170557]

this game started the shitty "80s vice city hotline miami neon cyberpunk purple synthwave" aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.10170859]

>>10170557
Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking nigger.

[Anonymous No.10170967]

>>10170290
>Redditface
>>10170363
>Reddit City
youre such a faggot for thinking like this and being a faggot in general

[Anonymous No.10170973]

>>10170557
Rewrite history

[Anonymous No.10171010]

>>10170967
you're the only faggot here for getting triggered by a silly word
>>10170973
NTA but Reddit City was the first popular 80's nostalgia bait media, in the same time it released That 80's Show (sequel to That 70's Show) was on air but it was a flop and no one remember it unlike the successful Reddit City reviving the 80's aesthetic in media

[Anonymous No.10171017]

>>10171010
youre the faggot for having brainrot over a site that 'supposedly' no one in here goes to. if it ever stopped living rent free in your little head youd probably just turn to seethe about your imaginary trannies and polshit. in short, you write like a faggot and act like one.

[Anonymous No.10171028]

>>10170263
tastelet

[Anonymous No.10171032]

>>10171017
>make a silly innocent joke by calling a game ''reddit''
>the autist starts seething and bring out trannies muh polshit out of nowehere
go back to your coomlecting and CRT faggotry threads, actual discussion of video games is not for you

[Anonymous No.10171040]

>>10171032
>Hates on CRTs
>Hates on the 80s which are arguably the best aesthetic for a video game
>Calls popular things reddit
/V/ is that way buddy

[Anonymous No.10171058]

>>10171032
>oh no, it was just a silly joke!
you are the one who is stuck on spamming meme words to describe your feelings because instead of discussing games all you want to do is regurgitate 4chan NPC culture. maybe if you said something that made sense people wouldnt jump down your throat for being so stupid.

[Anonymous No.10171062]

>>10171032
>>make a silly innocent joke by calling a game ''reddit''

[Anonymous No.10171068]

>>10171040
i grew up with a CRT and i don't miss it and have no nostalgia for it because my current life is not awful like yours hence why you cling to your dinosaur CRT wishing doing so will take you bad to your childhood to a time before you turned out to be a complete faggot
>the best aesthetic for a video game
LMAO the only good game with 80's setting is Yakuza 0 and even so the 80's setting was a huge downgrade from the 00's and 10's setting in the rest of the series
>Calls popular things reddit
i also call shitty games that no one but few posers and pseuds pretend to like ''reddit''
like most of the shitty PS1 fan translated games in the last few years (Reddit Falls, Moon RPG Reddit, Reddit Lagoon...)

[Anonymous No.10171075]

>>10171068
CRTs are fun and from what you are writing I get the feeling you used to like vice city before you were molested as a kid.

[Anonymous No.10171143]

>>10171068
>if you like things I don’t then you’re pretending
Go be 12 years old somewhere else

[Anonymous No.10171151]

>>10171143
>if you call thing i like ''reddit'' then you are a shitposter!
however you develop a better taste in vidya

[Anonymous No.10171162]

>>10168762
This thread is full of shit Im not going to read, just came here to state that I absolutely love VC and its my fav GTA game, yes not being able to swim sucks and SA is better, but man is there something magical in going from one tip of the map to the other with Radio Espantoso sounding in your car all the way.

[Anonymous No.10171178]

>>10171162
>but man is there something magical in going from one tip of the map to the other with Radio Espantoso sounding in your car all the way.
upvoted!

[Anonymous No.10171215]

>>10170363
>doesn't know to leave the last cuban mission till the very end to keep the haitians off your back

[Anonymous No.10171219]

>>10171068
>my current life is not awful like yours
You sound pretty angry though like things aren't going so great for you. Is everything ok anon?

[Anonymous No.10171259]

>>10168762

San Andreas has a few high points but overall yeah, it's pretty boring and it was the beginning of the end for GTA.

>B-BUT I CAN'T SWIM IN VC..

Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.10172026]

>>10168937
I understood what you said, don't mind those rude anons

[Anonymous No.10172032]

>>10170063
San Andreas has:

Nigger driving
Nigger movement
Nigger climbing/platforming
Nigger gunplay
Nigger swimming
Nigger flying
Nigger radio
Nigger missions
Nigger characters
Nigger story
Nigger world

[Anonymous No.10172041]

>>10172032
The VCtranny reveals his true seethe

[Anonymous No.10172059]

My 2 cents is this. Vice City has a little bit more charm but that's because it was actually rushed out to capitalize on III's success due to it's media coverage. In fact I think there's one building in Downtown VC where you can tell obviously the developers were in a hurry to get it out. I think it was something like the building's windows were obviously too small. Once you got close you could tell the proportions of the windows and doors wouldn't allow a person to enter the building. This isn;t the only building like that in the game. In fact parts of VC where there isn't a major section of the game that takes place that yo ucan tell was rushed by the developers. Even still VC was a huge leap forward because of the "business" management aspect of the game. If you really look at those old PS2 era GTA games you really see very guickly that what you're getting isn't one game. You get several smaller games in a GTA game of that era. You get a flight simulator, a driving sim, a fighting game, a business management sim and a third person shooter all in one game. They even added a fucking DDR type game in SA. I think this is a huge reason the newer games lack the charm and fun of the old games. GTA 5 really doesn't have anything new in it. Almost everything yo ucan do in 5 you can do in the other games. To that end I think 4 is probably the last actually fun GTA game because they added darts and a dating sim thing as well as other minigames and stuff. Bowling too even. I think if they do a GTA 6 they should really look at adding new gameplay elements that would fit into what ever thier motif is. Supposedly it's supposed to be VC again which is kind of meh for me. Overall I think SA is the better game in terms of graphics and game play for the simple fact that alot of the same game ideas from VC are still there but they're more polished.

[Anonymous No.10172060]

>>10172059
Kek. My short GTA essay.

[Anonymous No.10172182]

>>10168762
I'd say GTA San Andreas is the less realistic and more fun one. There's a lot of variety in the missions in SA and a lot of wacky characters, buying an airfield and doing crazy shit for a hippie and the CIA, etc. Most of vice city's missions are the standard "drive from A to B, kill 20 dudes, drive home while getting chased" or "chase someone in a vehicle, run them off the road, lose your wanted level" missions.

The two games are nearly equal in my opinion, because Vice City has my favourite city, atmosphere and soundtrack, but San Andreas just barely beats it because the gameplay is just more fun and varied.

[Anonymous No.10172384]

>>10172059
>4 is probably the last actually fun GTA game
there is nothing fun about IV the boring driving simulator
>added darts and a dating sim thing
no one likes darts and dating sim shit was already in San Andreas and it was better

[Anonymous No.10172403]

san andreas is better in every aspect. the only real thing anybody can ever say about vice city is "muh 80s soundtrack" but i can listen to greatest hits of the 80s without needing to play it.

[Anonymous No.10172443]

Objectively speaking, Vice City probably has worse controls and missions than SA, but it has atmosphere in spades. Teenagers like me who were too young to remember the 80s really got a kick out of it, and I don't think it's an experience any other GTA game has recreated quite this well.

[Anonymous No.10172456]

>>10172403
This. I was heavily disappointed with Vice City after having played SA first. Sure the soundtrack is great but the world is tiny, the missions last 2 minutes at most, the shooting is absolutely terrible and the second half of the game is just driving circles making collections. Also there is no story, at all. One of the most overrated games of all time.

[Anonymous No.10172458]

>>10172032
You can't be older than 15

[Anonymous No.10172478]

>>10172026
I too have a degree in retardium and it's various alloys.

[Anonymous No.10172546]

>>10172403
>more features more better
no.
everything in san andreas is just tedious.
I do not want to eat or work out or be locked into the countryside.
also san andreas is when the niggerlicious cancer fiction shit like jetpacks started

[Anonymous No.10172590]

>>10172041
>>10172458
beats being a swarthy shitskin like you lol

[Anonymous No.10172767]

>>10172590
videogames

[Anonymous No.10172843]

>>10168762
>san andreas
>lot of content
pick one.

[Anonymous No.10172969]

>>10172032
cj indeed drives like a nigga

[Anonymous No.10172989]

why can't you GTA faggots behave yourselves

[Anonymous No.10173102]

>>10172843
are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.10173120]

I can't think of anything VC does that SA doesn't do better.

VC's map is also extremely lacking even compared to III.

[Anonymous No.10173131]

>>10168762
I liked VC but SA is way better. VC lags behind the other games because of its atrocious controls

[Anonymous No.10173412]

>>10170557
Nah. Vice City was a pretty accurate depiction of the 80s and its media by Gen-xers who grew up during the period. The retro wave/synth wave outrun type shit came out 10 years later. Maybe it popularised the 80e nostalgia wave but the actual aesthetic is different to the stuff that came later, which was millennial reinterpretation of 80s nostalgia and aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.10173446]

>>10170427
It's "coño," you white idiot.

[Anonymous No.10173604]

>>10173446
same shit, beaner

[Anonymous No.10173642]

>>10168762
Partially agree, it's fun but it's like 60% of the full game and it has only ~8 really good missions(more than any other gta has). Shame, they publish it in this state just to create over bloated SA. Also it's the only gta with a good script

[Anonymous No.10173925]

>>10168762
>when you get the house in Starfish Island
>health, armor and weapons, even without collecting hidden packages
>a fucking Infernus
>a motherfucking helicopter
Loading the game and having everything you needed at hand without having to drive all around the islands to get ammo or a better car was peak comfy. I'm not sure if it's my favorite game but that certainly was my favorite house in any GTA.

[Anonymous No.10174951]

>>10173642
Out of all the VC fanboy nonsense, the most ridiculous is them praising the story...what story, can you elaborate you retard?

[Anonymous No.10175498]

>>10170085
it's so good it can't even ran on modern machines

[Anonymous No.10175743]

>>10175498
ESL-kun pls

[Anonymous No.10176474]

>>10174951
stop baiting faggot

[Anonymous No.10176747]

>>10168762
They should've kept the 90's black hood hip hop setting for one game and focused more on like Idk suits and cocaine and heavy metal type setting. Imagine a 1960s or 70's GTA would be pretty cool. You could be like an affiliated mob guy but since you're not Italian or Jewish or Irish you can never become a part of a family. And then you pick which Family to join or maybe you start your own. Also why stick to the USA Imagine having a GTA based on like the Banda Della Magliana, that would be sick. and Rome is a pretty cool city.

[Anonymous No.10176757]

>>10174951
just doing the dirt bike jump over the canal with Heat of The Moment playing beats any experience in San Andreas. also the pink mission circles. The Whole aesthetic was just perfect.

[Anonymous No.10176975]

>>10171068
>i grew up with a CRT and i don't miss it and have no nostalgia for it
Same. I'm pretty sure the CRT fetish is a zoomer thing. They never experienced the transition from CRT to flat screen LCD screens and the memory how much better it was. Zoomers feel like they missed out on this ancient tech so they tend to romanticize it. Same with how millennials suddenly went crazy over vinyl records. I use a CRT filter when I emulate 16 bit or earlier games because raw pixels look like shit, but I can't imagine starting up one of those shitty behemoths with that annoying beep, ever. And I have one in my attic right now. Fuck CRTs, there is a reason everyone moved on.

[Anonymous No.10176982]

>>10176474
I accept your concession
>>10176757
>uh yeah i love the story that part where i did [random freeroam garbage on a 2 meter squared map] was heckin wholesome and big chungus and also i love pink because i suck cock all day
Wow.

[Anonymous No.10177509]

>>10176975
my family was poor i remember back when i was really young before we bought a CRT we had one of those ancient small TV's without a fucking remote you had to get up and click on the TV to change the channel
it was horrible but i wouldn't be surprised if there is boomers out there with a nostalgia fetish for this shit

[Anonymous No.10178263]

>>10168762
It's kino. The guns didn't have any right feeling as good as they did, especially the m4. One of my fave vidya guns ever.

>>>/wsg/5222524
>>>/wsg/5222552
>>>/wsg/5222555

[Anonymous No.10178272]

>>10178263
Finish the pizza missions ya bum!

[Anonymous No.10179845]

>>10176982
You seem genuinely retarded, not going to spell out the story for you.
>muh small map
Yeah I enjoy bigger but completely empty maps where you have nothing to do too.

[Anonymous No.10181314]

>>10179845
Oh no. Vice City isn't even one of those small maps that are completely full of things to do. Somehow the map is tiny, and 50% of is unused space. Same how the story is a completely barebones collection of cutscenes with barely any coherent narrative. It's almost like the game was a rushed DLC tier addon to 3 before the actual good game (San Andreas) could be made. It's almost like that's the case, you dumb nigger!

[Anonymous No.10181320]

>>10181314
gta 3 is empty, boring, and has nothing to do around the map but a few cab missions and a race. its soulless

[Anonymous No.10181596]

>>10176757
Heat of the Moment wasn't in VC.

[Anonymous No.10181612]

>>10181320
Modern day revisionary opinion. At the time it was mindblowing and experimental, nobody would call it soulless. The pedestrian AI in 3 is still better than in most modern GTA clones. They paid attention to the little things

[Anonymous No.10181764]

Is SA's map being huge zoomer revisionism? The map is pretty small according to today's standards

[Anonymous No.10182397]

>>10181764
>do zoomers think SA's map is huge because the map is smaller when compared to today's standards
Wtf? That doesn't even make sense.

It was pretty large by 2004 standards, especially compared to Vice City and Liberty City. It also just felt larger in scope, driving from Los Santos to San Fierro actually felt like something of a road trip and the areas felt clearly distinct. One of the dumber things Definitive Edition did was take out the LA fog that obscured draw distance as it killed the illusion of how far away the other cities were.

[Anonymous No.10182405]

>>10181764
It is pretty big even today, I replayed it recently, it doesn't feel small that's for sure. If it had as much detail in it as modern games do, it would feel like a normal sized AAA map today

[Anonymous No.10182680]

What annoys me about the GTA games is that money, your reward for doing missions, really lacks any real uses. Most properties are useless and boring. Vice City is the only one that does it halfway decent, because money is generally kind of tight in the game, so getting some revenue rolling in feels rewarding, and the businesses you buy are at least halfway interesting. In San Andreas, money is only good for buying guns and armor. The properties suck and only serve as save points on a needlessly large map. Oh and once you get access to horse betting you can make millions upon millions relatively quick, voiding the importance of money for the next 70% of the game.

It's not like a deal breaker for the games, but it could've been more rewarding,

[Anonymous No.10183474]

I suspect part of the reason Vice City is so well-remembered is the damn commercial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnW6_sAhwdE
I cannot recall how many times I saw this on TV back when the game was new. People still actually watched cable so everyone saw this ad. For people who played GTA III some of the little changes really were a talking point, too.
>There are motorcycles now!
>The main character talks this time!
>It's in the eighties so it's basically Scarface!
And then all the kiddies like me learned who A Flock of Seagulls was.
This thread makes me want to give it a replay on PC with some of those fan patches that restore the broken features. For anyone who's done this, is there anything still broken that hsan't been fixed?

[Anonymous No.10183524]

>>10181764
>people saying San Andreas has a big map are zoomer revisionists, because zoomer games have bigger maps

[Anonymous No.10183526]

>>10183474
reVC has everything.

[Anonymous No.10183670]

>>10168762
Sand Andreas is highly ampered by the fact that you can only play as a jogger.

[Anonymous No.10183686]

>>10172059
>They even added a fucking DDR type game in SA.
SA has a better pool and 8 ball game in it than most stand alone pool and 8 ball games.

[Anonymous No.10183689]

>>10171068
>the only good game with 80's setting is Yakuza 0
My God, he is actually retarded.

[Anonymous No.10183705]

>>10168762
What are you on about? 3 and San Andreas are a lot of fun. Stop trying to stir up shit between games that are direct upgrades of each other, you needy prick.

[Anonymous No.10183715]

>>10168762
I want to play Tightened Thrice but can’t find a GTA III v1.0 copy. Help me, /vr/os - I need Head Radio

[Anonymous No.10183765]

>>10181314
>50% of is unused space
you have missions and features on literally every inch of its area