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10076106 No.10076106 [Reply] [Original]

Second try a few years after giving it a short for the first time. Underwhelming is the word.

>le dull "protagonist"
>le strong independent pirate who's actually a woman, who's actually le long lost princess sister
>omg you're my long lost sister, klol
>insipid dialogue
>horrendous pacing, tons of backtracking, mandatory grinding, still always strapped for cash and ability points
>insipid soundtrack

How did they go from Cecil to this? And how the hell did they manage to create VI?

>> No.10076109
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10076109

His name is Butz

>> No.10076118

>le
>le

>> No.10076127
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>>10076106
Anon you can just make a normal FFV thread you dont have to bait people here.

>> No.10076128

>>10076106
I think you're just allergic go FFV because I had the exact opposite experience and reaction to every single thing you posted.

>> No.10076129

5 is gameplay focused, which is probably why they didn't localize it. Notice how every point you made about why it was bad had to do with non-gameplay related elements, story and music, etc. Well, aside from grindiness, which the Japanese are not averse to at all.

>> No.10076134

insipid post

>> No.10076159

>>10076129
This. Only FF with interesting Job system, and you weebs demanded to go back to linear weeb trash. Thank god for Tactics.

>> No.10076185

>>10076106
>uses "le" buzzword
Immediately disregarded everything you typed. It is unlikely that you will ever have an opinion I consider nuanced or intelligent. Congratulations, you shot yourself in the foot in your own thread. Next time, if you want to be treated seriously, try speaking like an actual human being instead of a low-intellect caricature.

>> No.10076323

>>10076106
>Backtracking
When? Taking two steps into the castle to unseal legendary weapons? I literally cannot think of any other times you even go to the same place twice. I know this is a troll thread, but that complaint doesn’t work with this game at all.

>> No.10076357

>>10076127
Who are all the characters on the extreme right side of the image (above Cloud of Darkness) and left (above FFII but below Adventure characters)?

>> No.10076485
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10076485

>>10076106
best game in the series, cry harder

>> No.10076509

>>10076357
top right corner are the 8 main characters of Romancing SaGa (not the loli)

>> No.10076551

imagine caring about characters and plot

>> No.10076571

final fantasy V filters people that don't enjoy RPG gameplay. it is modern gamer repellent

>> No.10076634

>>10076106
5 was kind of like 9. it was poorly directed and mined the bones of the previous games without inspiration. some people really like it, because it did a good job of bone mining, and streamlined a lot of the gameplay stuff from the games it aped. it did a good job bringing a lot of that stuff together, and capitalized on the technical accomplishments of the previous games.

>> No.10076716

>>10076634
Buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords.
>inb4 le le retard

>> No.10076720

The point of FF5 is that you're supposed to go crazy with the class combos. If you don't like the gameplay, you won't like it.

>> No.10076730

>>10076716
weird antagonism. everything okay at home?

>> No.10076749

I genuinely preferred 4 also and I played it when it came out in the US as Final Fantasy 2. It was years later until I could try 5 on a rom hack with an emulator. It’s an excellent game but the focus is completely on the job system so if you don’t like that then it’s not as fun.
As barebones as 4 was for storyline (it seemed much more epic back in the day) 5 really doesn’t care much about that.

>> No.10076768

>>10076730
No my wife just had a secondmiscarriage. Sorry for taking my anger out on you buddy.

>> No.10076775

From the little I've played, it seems like the end of the line for the job system games. Took everything from before and made the whole game just about using the job system rather than telling a story.

>> No.10076781

>>10076127
I think mid-left is from the Game Boy SaGa/Legends.

>> No.10076797

>>10076106
I just got a 2022 Romhack version of FF5. Y'all really need to start checking romhacks for every retro game you play. The amount of overhaul/bug fix/quality of life patches that have come out in the last 2 - 3 years is tremendous. So many amazing RPGs have been completely revamped to fix and improve every aspect. My first console was a GBA and then Gamecube but I'm absolutely loving the SNES library, it may be the best library ever with romhacks.

>> No.10076826

>>10076797
>Y'all
consider suicide

>> No.10076830

>>10076106
the only people that like 5 are the job system autists who care about nothing else. you got tricked by retards.

>> No.10076841

>>10076797
What romhack? I'm about to play FFV with the GBA script romhack and sprint enabled, I'm not sure if I should add the patches for blue magic learning always on though. I'm leaning towards no, but people seem to like having it.

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>>10076841
>FFV with the GBA script romhack
Please just play Spooniest's "Legend of the Crystals" hack that merges the fan translation with GBA localization instead. Square was fucking seething that the fan translation was better than the PS1 localization so they injected the GBA localization with trashy pop culture references to be "different" or some shit.

>> No.10076889

>>10076159
Yes I want the 40 hr turn based game to have something for me other than turn based combat

>> No.10076892

>>10076889
Play a VN, you obviously hate JRPG gameplay

>> No.10076927

>>10076841
its on romhacking net as "Final Fantasy V Tweaks" for SNES. A lot of great versions of games are made for SNES roms I think because of the ease of hacking.

>> No.10076930

>>10076841
use BSNES or something newer for romhacks as emulators like SNES9x don't work with some hacks today.

>> No.10077157

>>10076927
That's a pro and a con, little buddy. When the barrier to entry is so low, you get more low quality.

>> No.10077258

>>10077157
theres like 100 hacks tops for romhacks on a game, most games don't even have 20. It's trivial to see whats good and whats not with those numbers, the reviews work fine. Also SNESDrunk has a great series showcasing good patches and romhacks both series have 6 videos of great stuff. I now have updated FF4,FF5,FF6, Lufia 2, G.O.D. and Seiken Densetsu 3 amongst other things. Even patches as simple as ones that remove slowdown from games are a, gamechanger (lol)

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>>10077258
>trusting ROM hack reviews
They're almost always too kind.
Exhibit A: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/5938236/

>> No.10077310

>>10076883
The GBA translation is soul.
The fan translation is dry and boring trash.

>> No.10077353

>>10076106
Story is whatever, but it has a lot of funny bits. At least the GBA version I played did. The gameplay was excellent, but I wish there was an action RPG that used this game's job system. So many of the abilities could probably be adapted to an APRG pretty well.

>> No.10077361

>>10076883
>please play this fan translation instead, you have to play this goofy game with correct grorious nippon accurate dialogue!
What a boring autist.

>> No.10077372

>>10077361
Go back to plebbit and take your Working Designs-tier garbage with you.

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>>10076485
While I disagree, Warriors of Dawn prequel when?

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>>10076106
>le dull "protagonist"

Bartz was the best fucking main character in any FF ever. Starts the game as an unemployed wanderer, ends the game as an unemployed wanderer with three hot bitches. And two of em are sisters! And the other's his dead friend's loli granddaughter!! And all three are princesses!!?!?

And you wanna know why he ended up with his own harem of hot, rich sluts while Cloud and Squall ended up with That Fucking Tifa and some bitch with a dog named "Vagina"? Because he kept his mouth shut and went about his business of kicking ass and taking names with zero faggotry.

>> No.10078773

I just finished V all the way through and 100% mastered it for the first time, and while I think it's pretty good, it's just very rough around the edges and I fully get why Nintendo didn't publish it outside of JP. The game just kinda tanks after world 1 halfway through world 2, and a lot of shit could've used rebalancing and tweaking. Much prefer the other Snes FF games

>> No.10078819

>>10076159
Wrong. So wrong.
Tactics had a better job system and so did X-2.

>>10076106
Agree 100%. It's a pretty shit game. Especially if you play it after any of the other SNES game. Story is unengaging and you're just shuffled from place to place with no real motivation in between.

>> No.10078848

>>10076106
Insipid thread
https://youtu.be/mzbT8K08XPs

>> No.10078884
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>>10077505
Huh, I thought his name was Butz?

>> No.10078915

>>10076106
lmao, kinda mid bait. like everyone plays it for the gameplay, aka. job system being cool to play around. it's almost low-hanging fruit to make fun of BLUTZ & FRIENDS for being dull.
>>10078819
>Tactics had a better job system and so did X-2.
I wouldn't be surprised to see other games have good job systems either, as mentioned here. tho in all fairness X-2 came way later and tactics is also a tactics game (in my backlog btw).

>> No.10079170

I recently replayed it in the pixel remaster, but as I expected I ended up disabling random encounters by the end of the galuf world already. Random encounters are a mechanic I can no longer accept, and it makes it hard for me to enjoy some final fantasy nostalgia.

>> No.10079204

>>10078884
He looks and dresses like a twink I used to fugg in his Butz who called himself Pandora. Right down to the weird fucking sleeved notglove things.
What a faggot

>> No.10079245

>>10076106
This is true. I don't get people's love for this outside of just the amazing music and being a hipster. Even the job system is way more fun in something like 10-2 or 13-3

That said, I don't think 6 is that great either.
Never played 4

>> No.10080768

>>10078915
The gameplay is really not the great either.
Sure there are a ton of jobs, but almost all of them are shit. Who is using a geomancer or summoner really?

>> No.10080791

>>10079245
>10-2
>13-3
Nu trash. Would not touch with a 10 foot pole

FFV is great if you're into the job system and grindy RPGs with great music. It's honestly for guys that are sort of autistic and enjoy figuring out different job and party combos while listening to cool music. I can't enjoy newer games with realistic looking characters. I like pixel art because I can use my imagination to fill in the gaps. Butz never looked like this >>10078884 in my version of FFV, for instance.

I was kidding earlier about 10 and 13. I do hate them but you do you, bro. I'll stick to the classics.

>> No.10080807

>>10080791
>admits that FFV fans are sort of autistic
at least you didn't follow that up with a bunch of shitposting. I don't get your opinion at all, but hey

>> No.10080810

>>10079245
At least 6 has twists and turns in the plot. It's not just 'Go to crystal' 'go to crystal' 'go to crystal'. Boring as fuck.

And 5's music is probably the worst in the series. It has maybe 2 good songs.
https://youtu.be/DYlAGogNqBg
You think that sounds good?

And the job system sucks ass. Only 3 of the abilities are any good and by the time you grind enough points you're already overpowered and a simple 'attack' command will do just as well.

>> No.10080819

>>10080810
well alot of final fantasy music blends together for me. I know it has maybe the best track in the entire series in Battle at Big Bridge

>> No.10080912

>>10080819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycO1_T6sLHw

This one or is there another one? This sounds pretty shit. Even the remaster is not good (but is a huge improvement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czaNPWhil0c

This is the song everyone raves about? It's as generic Final Fantasy Boss music as you can get.

>> No.10080945

>>10080912
There's admitting something isn't as great as people claim, and then there's just shitposting

>> No.10081130

>>10076323
there's a bit of backtracking when you're fetching cid/mid to do stuff at a few points but it's always logical and very, very fast

>> No.10081206

>>10076323

It's backtracking and not being told where to go, it's infuriating without a map and a guide

>follow Mid/Cid all around the map
>follow Mid/Cid between meteors
>look for dragon weed
>look for whatever guy's fleet without anyone mentioning where it could even be

>> No.10081213

>>10080945
It's not shit posting. That song really sounds like garbage. Final Fantasy 4 had some good songs, Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6 had some bangers.
Battle on the bridge though is just a mess melodically.

>> No.10083023

>>10080810
6 is boring as fuck outside of the story. I’d rather have great gameplay but trash story over great story but trash gameplay

>> No.10084883

>>10080810
6 is horribly designed, e.g. the last boss has less magic defense than most standard enemies
5 blows it out the water

>> No.10085780

>>10084883
>5 blows it out the water
You are half right. 5 does blow.

>> No.10085812

>>10076106
FF did not git gud before 7.

>> No.10085814

>>10081213
Please do elaborate using theory what is objectively wrong with the song.

>> No.10086545

>>10076129
>>10084883
FFVI had the underpinnings of very well crafted formation AI and RPG mechanics, but it got shipped undercooked; featuring bugs and problems that really only ended up being visible to nerds like us 5+ years after release. Because it was a fully functional and engaging RPG experience of the day that was beloved by many.
But the proof is there that it was also invested in the quality of its gameplay from the get-go; once the spaghetti code was sorted out two separate romhacks successfully used those quality gameplay underpinnings of FFVI to turn the game into a significantly higher quality gameplay RPG than FFV could EVER accomplish.
I'm sure that if FFVI had a bit more time with the developers they would have accomplished with these romhacks did all these years later.

FFV really is just underwhelming.