/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9611263/#9611406

FORE/VR/ ALONE
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9890843/#9896579

=== FINISH LINE ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9941667/#q9941720

=== NEWS ===
[6-7] New ACE injection demo dropped.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130715-ace-engine-dos-doom-ii-vanilla/?page=9&tab=comments#comment-2655386

[6-5] ROTT: Ludicrous Edition release on July 31, 2023.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRdZEY6EL5I

[6-1] Pandemonia updated to 2.4.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=60984

[5-31] Duke Nukem Collections 1 & 2 announced for Evercade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcuNpWd-G6g

[5-29] dsda-doom 0.26 now available with beta UDMF support
https://github.com/kraflab/dsda-doom

[5-28] Walpurgis 0.98 is out
https://youtu.be/ieMJf-BHTv4

[5-28] Corruption Cards updated to 5.0
https://www.moddb.com/mods/corruption-cards/downloads/corruption-cards-50

[5-27]Combined_Arms Gaiden upgraded to 2.1
https://combine-kegan.itch.io/combined-arms-gaiden

[5-25] Explore Jam 3 for Quake released
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/explore-jam-3.228/

[5-25] 3D scans of Quake 2 toys
https://blake.toys/tags/quake2

[5-24] Aleph One updated
https://alephone.lhowon.org/

[5-23] Nugget Doom updated to 1.14.0
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/tag/nugget-doom-1.14.0

[5-23] Woof 11.1.4 released, Mac/MIDI support improvements and bugfixes for Dehacked
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/tag/woof_11.1.4

[5-22] "Bring Your Own Class" Zandronum mod release
https://revenatn.itch.io/byoc

[5-18] Chasm: The Rift's re-release gets a major update and console release
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2061230/view/3730712991560569024

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BEAT THE NIGGUR

How the fuck do you faggots keep track of your projects when the OP links to a single post from the archive. Do you not use Google Docs or something?

>>9968390
>Google Docs

Any wad recommendations to play DoomRLA with?

Hello I Am New
How Do I Deal With Chaingunners?

>>9968417
Chaingun is a good way to quickly stun lock them if they're trying to kill you at range. At closer ranges a SSG blast is a pretty safe way to kill them immediately, just don't miss or you're going to eat shit. Like with almost every fight, having a escape plan is a good idea, or the very least put a wall between you and the Chaingunner, or even better: Another monster.

>>9968417
Depends on the situation.
At leisure, four taps of the fire button with the chaingun, spaced out just enough to keep accuracy at 100%.
If one absolutely has to die quickly at range, rocket.
If one absolutely has to die quickly at close range, super shotgun.
If many of them, all in view at the same time, absolutely have to die quickly, BFG.

>>9968437
>If many of them, all in view at the same time, absolutely have to die quickly, BFG.
You reminded me of a map, that I can't remember which wad it's from, think it was a small slaughter wad from one of the recent cacowards, that had a room with a fuckton of chaingunners, some arachnotrons on a ledge at the back and a pair of archviles. That was quite the room

>>9968417
you throw a fucking bundle of c4 at them

>>9968447
I was thinking of quite a few situations in Plutonia when I said it.

>>9968451
Absolutely terrifying throw arc.

>>9968468
By arc you mean a straight line?

>>9968470
What, you don't find the straight arc terrifying?

What’s 9+10

>>9968490
21?

>>9968484
It is the first thing I noticed when I watched the webm.

>>9968410
Almost any wad is fine since it randomizes shit anyway. Some people go further and use Obsidian/Oblige to generate maps just for DRLA runs. I think there is a monster addon for DRLA too.

>>9968496
I think DRLAMonsters is just the monsters portion of DRLA for use with other mods.

>>9967869
>>9962635
oh hey i forgot, if we're doing like small descriptions for the maps or whatever, heres my deep lore
>While travelling on your Japanese aircraft carrier you find a mysterious island which seems to attract people and monsters who are obsessed with your ship. Such monsters dominate the island, and you know you must investigate this further.
also lead anon, i included zmapinfo so youre gonna have to define the nextmap in there otherwise it exits to credits. i dont think umapinfo and emapinfo need this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7h7rHDOf7c
25 minutes of the "ACE engine demo wad"

>>9968441
Hehe . . . What a mess

>>9968490
9/11.

cool
could probably use some middle textures to make the effect more convicing

wish I could put my experimentation into a fucking playable map

>>9968636
The stream should go down instead of up

>TFW when the second secret map entrance is easier to find than a switch to unlock an area you walk over about 5 times over the span of the whole #vania-esque level and is of no use cause you already killed everything
Only thing that I hate tn The Spiritworld for now is those "use a key to get it again" kind of rooms and the traps that spit-out multiple Vore projectiles in a salvo
thank heavens for once that Copper nerfing the dead Vore orbs' tracking made evading them possible

>>9968640
https://youtu.be/DHawudR4yRE?t=11

>>9968640
oh I wanted to make something like "cut the flow of the sludge" maybe I'm retarded

>>9968649
I understood what you tried to do, but when you close the source of the flow in a vertical pipe, the rest will go down, not get sucked back up into the pipe. You probably can do the same thing, just change the direction

>>9968660
you're right, I'll keep experimenting with this, see what I can come up with

>>9968640
have you ever tried Saturnine Chapel?

>>9968646
I'll even do a shotty start to experience it proper this time - as it seems to be a recurring thing here again (as if it was a mapjam, same deal with SMEJ)

Cancelled game Warhammer 40k Dark Crusaders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py_DrdOgKUU

iso is on old-games.ru, apparently could be the entire game, but I couldnt be arsed to get past level 2, its just extremely boring, but interesting

maybe rip some assets for your doom wads

>>9968682
No, should I?

Making this map actually have fun gameplay is gonna be challenge if I wanna keep it as it is shape wise

>>9968692
>apparently could be the entire game
If it's the same build that's been floating around for a while then it should be, there's 16 levels in the one I've got.

>>9968713
A challenge huh? It might even be a pain in the ass

>>9968713
Is this Kama Sutra 2 or something

>>9968718

Alright, all the stuff you guys have been posting about Deathstrider recently has caught my attention. How do I get into it? Just download the mod from the gitlab page?

>>9968390
>Do you not use Google Docs or something?
unlike other boards it's been always messy like that, but we use anchor posts most of the time. I think the last time we used a google docs kind of thing was the Ad mortem project.

>>9968689
>maps by Newhouse & zigi
That explains alot

>>9968794
Speaking of Ad Mortem, is there a version of map 4 that's not censored or was it made that way?

>>9967585
I usually load enemies before the gameplay mod, but I don't know if that would do it. I've never played any of the Community Chests.

>>9968771
Yeah, pretty much. Read the readme, press F1 for context-sensitive controls in the mod's menus and inventory submenus, read Zhs2's guide if you need some gameplay tips.
https://tireiron.us/dsstrats.txt?reader

>>9968809
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/8614880/#q8620020
Probably this one.

>>9968812
And what maps do you recommend to play with starting out?

>>9968814
My mistake, I meant map 5 and this one is censored too. I guess it was made that way.

Does anyone know a way to disable these rooms in obsidian? i hate them and the retard ladders

yo this game is layered man

>>9968821
It wasn't made that way, it was changed a short time before launch. Just check the archives.

>>9968119
>Just fyi, the weapon bobbing in the mod was designed around the default value of 1, as it's intentionally subtle to begin with and doesn't go into vanilla/HD levels of intensity, which always bothered me cause it looked almost comical
Gotcha, it has since been fixed as well as the particle count. To be honest I kind of get bothered by the tall headbobbing when sprinting so I may try it at .75
>>9968646
>start Path of the Woodwose passing the yellow door near the start
>get the key at end up at the intended one
>scratch head, take a few seconds to double back to the door I thought I saw near the start
>rewarded with ammo
I loved this so much but I also didn’t gun for 100% secrets the first time through. The one thing I am still on the fence about: “Super secrets” that increase the total secret count when revealed.
>>9968771
Grab it and much like HD, get ready to make some comfortable keybinds.

>>9968825
Obsidian has a discord where the devs are cordial and active. You could ask there.

>>9968818
I just started playing a week ago, I've only been through the first 3 episodes of Doom and now I'm on Strange Aeons for giggles. But if you play HDest, anything you'd play that with would work. I'm going to do EDay and probably Darkmoon Alpha with Project Malice after this.

>>9968839
>so I may try it at .75

That's what I have mine set to. It's comfy.

>>9968837
Eh, I will believe you, I am not that interested to see nigger written on the map screen.

>>9968839
Level sections incorporating fragments of the previous map are soulful, and doubly so for ones teasing you with a piece of a future level - I've spent way too much time looking for a nonexistant teleport into here before getting the hint.
>Super secrets
How devious, I have no idea if I even missed any at all.

>>9968871
maybe the zdoom forums or whatever the fuck is more your speed

>>9968876
Maybe /pol/ is yours, shithead

>>9968871
It's especially not worth the effort since the maps were uploaded on the version of catbox that only holds files for a couple of days tops.

>>9967869
First, if you stand here, the cybers don't aggro and the whole room becomes a joke
Second, how do you get the soulsphere secret now?

>>9968871
>map has a secret nazi worship room
>nobody bats an eye
>map has a small silly joke that just so happens to fit the theme perfectly
>REEEEE MUH DOOMWORLD REPUTATION MUH N-WORD IS THE WORST THING THAT COULD EVER HAPPEN
Americans are truly and utterly mindbroken.

>>9968825
I tired a lot of the settings with the port set to ZDoom family and I think they may be unavoidable. You could try changing the port in Obisidian's settings to Boom. I don't know shit about making maps but I started generating maps for Boom instead and I haven't run into one of those tunnels yet. Bear in mind a few other things won't be included in generation anymore, but the maps are still pretty close to the same.

I started Atonement completely blind. I like the first map so far. Hopefully it doesn't go downhill or something.

>>9968883
why are you assuming every instance of the word somehow has anything to do with /pol/. it's about not getting needlessly offended you utter fucking faggot

>>9968978
Where did I imply that I am offended you brain rotted shit heap? What, because I don't feel the need to scour archives for an outdated version of a wad with a dumb niggerman joke? Fucking kill yourself, you projecting asshat.

>>9968837
Such a waste, they could’ve used a fun Sandy/Sandman pun.
>>9968843
I might hop on the Project Malice train but I really want to test how Babel monsters works out down the line. Right now I’ll be eating off more than I can chew at this point, as is a purple fire farting mancubus wrecked my shit in TNTWWRI’s Prison clone.
>>9968872
You the same person who recommended Trevail awhile ago? It did that too and I loved it.
>How devious, I have no idea if I even missed any at all.
You just hit Arcana right? I don’t think there were any prior to that. That level and the next couple are the peak of the mod for me.

>>9968987
>It did that too and I loved it.
*”It” meaning incorporating previous map segments, not super secrets.

map 22 of plutonia really sucks. I just used godmode and noclip to see what you actually have to do. I just skipped it since its not worth my time. You ever do this with bad maps in a mapset/megawad?

>>9969017
>Impossible Mission
For all the chaingunner memes, that one elevator with the active shotgunners was fucking evil.
I’m not one to skip levels - I even found Habitat tolerable - but I don’t blame people who do.

>>9969017
I didn't find any tnt/plutonia map worth skipping entirely but on the other hand, I don't UVmax pistol start them so eh.
>You ever do this with bad maps in a mapset/megawad?
Absolutely, I skipped a couple of stages in Ray Mohawk 2 because I got tired of it, noclipped in eviternity map32 because I just got completely lost and had no idea how to proceed and I skipped 90% of sign of torment to see the map based "story" of it because I found the map design itself to be incredibly annoying and the anti-thesis of fun. Not sorry about it at all.

>>9968963
it's only funny if you're underage or some neckbeard /pol/ wigger. we get it, it's a le edgy reddit joke, just move on. one thing I hate about our projects it has to be unnecessary controversial in some ways. have some accountability for god sake if you want people to play your fucking shitty maps.

>map has a secret nazi worship room
what are you talking about

>>9969054
>our projects
Why do you even come here?
This is not for you, /vr/ projects are not for you, they are not "your" projects and we don't need or want you, bye.
Please note that I only reply because you irritated me with your unwarranted bullshit moral while not even having played the wad.

>>9969026
Its just a big downgrade in quality from the rest of the maps so far and feels like it was put together in a day by a first time doom mapper. The layout is confusing and the traps are "lol u die now" instead of actually challenging in an interesting way.

>>9967381
Sorry, was asleep
Those are just from my original sketch, I decided to truncate the train tunnel, and the lower of the two lines is just a guide for the big monolith the map curves around

>>9969120
Looks like a good chunk of the map will potentially go unused. Is that just "bonus" stuff to discover or what?

>>9968987
I did a playthru of Travail back in 2021 (as an intermission for that russian Zelda Q2 mod in times when it was being an utter bitch to deal with) but didn't made any screencaps of it unfortunately, and to be honest I could only 100% all the secrets because the mod comes with uncompiled maps you can look up in TB.
Somehow just like last time - finding the SuperSecret exit wasn't that much difficult actually, as it was the 'leap of faith' needed to get a Red Armour and those bunch of Cells behind bars that defeated my completionist impulses

When's the last day for submissions for the waifu contest? The 18th? I had to be away from PC for a few days.

>>9969163
June 18th, rules are in the news post.

>>9969129
Honestly, I just wanted to make a big sprawling labyrinth for players to get lost in.
My only regret is that I won't be able to get truly lost in it once I've finished it.

>>9969054
Yet that's not what he's saying, anon.
>one thing I hate about our projects it has to be unnecessary controversial in some ways.
The most controversial thing I hear about /vr/ projects is that it's from 4chan, which means every time someone has something nice to say about /vr/ wads it has to be followed up with an entire essay about how 4chan bad.

>>9968871
I actually still had that old version pre-censor.

>>9968897
>first
thanks, ive fixed it. on UV its impossible to cheese now i think. it was still possible on HMP (1 fewer cyber) so i removed a column. on ITYTD/HNTR its still possible (2 fewer cybers) but i'm ok with that.
>second
soulsphere secret? you mean the megasphere? soulsphere secret is just interacting with a wall
megasphere secret is still archvile jump. you can take a look at the demo included if you want.

>>9968376
>>9968510
red boat (taihou map) v1.1
https://files.catbox.moe/lh9uci.wad
-fixed a couple of textures
-turns out some ports dont like "14100" entities for MUSINFO (which is meant to play the default music) so instead i included the default track twice, referencing the 2nd copy in the musinfo lump. i couldve referenced the 1st one instead, but then the lead would have to manually edit my musinfo lump which is cringe.
-made cyberdemon valley harder to cheese

>>9969226
>megasphere secret is still archvile jump
Really? Because for me, the archvile after the yellow key didn't even spawn on that version. Using gzdoom.

>>9969227
thats weird. tested it just now on gzdoom, on compatability setting [default]

>>9969227
oh i know whats up. you must have fallen into the water. oops. its possible to avoid the archvile trigger if you use the water teleporter.

>>9969238
Yeah I did, I fell into the water to check where the teleporter takes me

>>9968986
seriously, just leave. this place is genuinely not for you and you are unwanted. or if you stay just get a trip so you can be filtered you stupid nigger.
>>9969157
>>9968987
travail is great. official mission pack tier.

>>9969250
I will leave when you will stop sucking cocks, so never.

>>9969238
thanks, its been fixed (for real this time)

>>9968376
red boat v1.2
https://files.catbox.moe/c84xaa.wad

>>9969253
Why do you even come here?
This is not for you, /vr/ projects are not for you, they are not "your" projects and we don't need or want you, bye.
Please note that I only reply because you irritated me with your unwarranted bullshit moral while not even having played the wad.

>>9969274

Jannie do your fucking job.

>>9969278
>>9969253
nigger.

>>9968871
americans are mentally ill.

>9968963
>9969274
>9969250
go back to your container fucking retard, /pol/fags needs to get bashed and raped in real life by a nigger,

I've been casting Rage at the start of maps and just slaughtering my way though enemies with the Knife. Leaping across the islands like this to get at the Devils instead of teleporting is super fun.

>>9969247
ok its actually fixed now
unrelated; thought maybe id make this pillar look a bit better but it already works differently on gzdoom (stops at a lower point) for some reason so i don't want to accidentally break it. very annoying.

>>9968376
red boat v1.2 (waifu project)
hopefully last
https://files.catbox.moe/9vfr48.wad

>>9969274
>>9969250
>>9968963
go back to your container you massive fucking retard, /pol/fags needs to get bashed and raped by a nigger

didn`t expect to see a blame panel of all things
sdo is pretty cool

>>9969357
Looking kinda Strange Aeons there.

Any ideas for the titlepic and interpic for the waifu mapset?

>>9969389
Doomguy with a bunch of body pillows?

>>9969395
doomguy protecting his dakimakura from the demons

>>9969395
>>9969401
Doom1 cover art but the free hand has a body pillow

>>9969250
Not him, but this is /vr/, Doom general. Not /pol/. Everyone is welcome here, regardless of their political leaning. This general is not tied to politics, and most of us here don't actually give shit about politics. I myself just like Doom, Quake, Duke and few other retro fpses. This is why I've been here for years. Peace (and gibs) bro.

>>9969382
It is.

Anyone knows how to extract SFXs from a Quake 1 TC/custom mapset?

>>9968695
not if you don't like upwards-flowing streams

>>9969451
Use PakExplorer.

>>9969452
It's not a question of like/dislike, if one is trying to make a "realistic" ( as far a doom can be) action, it would make sense to do it that way.

>>9968682
More people should play it, it's a pretty cool map.

>>9969381
what wad?

>>9969468
Nice work! Do you think you could draw Daina from-oh fuck it I can't do it with a straight face

>>9968963
>map has a secret nazi worship room
Don't forget the pumpking fuhrer painting I made, so proud of that
>>9969054
>one thing I hate about our projects it has to be unnecessary controversial in some ways
What are you smoking man? Honestly, the nazi room(norwitch lane), the painting and even the uncensored lovecraft reference(if someone really added it) and even everything about HFFM are all so tame nobody with a sane mind gives a shit
Tarnsman, stxvile and others played and praised our wads, Decino admitted he thinks HFFM is a good wad on livestream, we get a decent amount of playthroughs reviews and coverage - where the fuck do you see the controversy? Like >>9969206 said, it's all inflated just by proximity to all the rest of 4chan, and not even that inflated - people feel the need to disclaim every compliment they give us with acknowledgement of "4chan bad" but that's it. They still give us praise and play our wads. We haven't done a single thing to offend anyone really
Makes me wonder what the reception of fore/vr/ alone will be, I'm hoping for some good gameplay

>>9968682
>Saturnine Chapel
Any time this name is brought up, I start to think about this guy's thief missions. No sight of chapels though.
https://www.thiefguild.com/fanmissions/283/the-7th-crystal

>>9969481
>Decino admitted he thinks HFFM is a good wad on livestream
He did? Really?

I started making a waifu map but i dont think i will finish it, the character shape and floor textures are done and some wall textures too but making it work like a real doom map is just too hard as my first map. So if anyone want to try doing something with it i can send the map later.

Oh man Bloom is amazing, how did I not play this earlier

>>9969497
It's really impressive, most stuff that does the "lets merge <thing> with Doom" thing comes out pretty shit, but there was some serious effort that went into the maps and stuff.

>>9969497
wait is that e1m1?

>>9969513
Bloom's gimmick is that Blood and Doom's maps have been merged in some bizarre ways, and it actually does it really well.

>>9969514
holy molly, downloading

>>9969481
>controversy
Only thing was the wad not being on doomworld.
>people feel the need to disclaim every compliment they give us with acknowledgement of "4chan bad"
Always been that way and it's not like a lot of anons wouldn't scoff at a wad made by reddit or somethingawful users.

Oh nice, it tells you when you unlock stuff.

>>9969253
I thought that a sequel to HFFM was just an abandonned joke . .
>Grenadespammer Satesus isn't real, he cannot harm you
>Grenadespammer Satesus:

>>9969520
>Always been that way and it's not like a lot of anons wouldn't scoff at a wad made by reddit or somethingawful users.
There's always going to be tribalism bullshit, though in a lot of ways it's to our benefit, the asshats who dismiss stuff because it's from here are the kind who invest zdoom and circlejerk discords so we're better off without that shit.

Nobody's gonna get big in the community just from posting stuff on here, but if you're looking to avoid a lot of the shit flying around elsewhere then it's great.

>>9969545
>Run run RUN hit the buttons grab the health AAAAA
>>9969552
Didn’t LunchLunch want his maps removed from Ad Mortem or something?

How can I check what difficulty level a save is on Hedon?

>>9969558
>Didn’t LunchLunch want his maps removed from Ad Mortem or something?
I remember this

>>9969561
type skill in the console, it should give a number that corresponds to the skill level

Any good VIOLENT RUMBLE 2 news lately?

>>9969561
Load it, then type "skill" in console. Count starts from 0, btw.

>>9969568
Alright, it gave me number 4. What does that mean? Does the count start at 1 or at 0?

>>9969572
:(

>>9969572
>>9969573
Thanks a lot.

Is there a mod to remove movement acceleration? The more i play the more i hate it

>>9969481
>everything about HFFM are all so tame nobody with a sane mind gives a shit
It got posted once on DW, got taken down and you all cried about it pretending 'there's nothing offensive'' when you fags knows exactly what was the reason. thus the project lead made a fucking 'friendly' version of the mapset which I find it so ironic. (Hard fast fun maps, i think?) if the niggerman joke wasn't censored i'm 100% sure Ad mortem would have been taken down too, don't just think about yourself. it can be prejudicial to other mappers who collaborated in the project. I want other people to play my maps too y'know.

>Makes me wonder what the reception of fore/vr/ alone will be
it will be fine, as long it doesn't have some retarded controversy-bait bullshit there.

>>9969556
>love long wang

guess it's time to play shadow warrior.

Huh. Beating episode 1 of Strange Aeons with Deathstrider acts like you've just completed Doom 2 and hits you with the enemy roster no matter if you're playing 1 or 2 instead of taking you to the Flagship. Nothing changemap can't handle for now.

>>9969389
One of the Pygmalion and Galatea paintings

>>9969389
>>9969603

>>9968825
Speaking of, when I started to compare quality of latest release of Obsidian and Oblige, I noticed that Oblige maps are just... better? They have less dead ends, less giant empty rooms, and are better paced. If there's an area in Oblige, it is guaranteed to be useful.
Even when I set Obsidian for smaller and tighter maps, it still keeps generating tons of useless nooks and crannies.

Obsidian maps are fully of flashy sector art, but that's their only advantage.

>>9969457
Thanks, love you handsome.

>>9969597
The only thing DS does is set the next level to the flagship if it determines that the current level is the last one. Maybe I didn't account for some edge cases. I can take a look tomorrow if I don't forget. It's a minor thing so it's kind of whatever.

>>9969558
>Didn’t LunchLunch want his maps removed from Ad Mortem or something?
But why tho?

>>9969569
>good
Well it's not *dead*. I'm still working on things, albeit with substantially decreased motivation.
I'm not sure of the the state of maps that were pending prior to the 'final' deadline. I don't think those anons have posted anything, unless I missed it.

I'm not going to lead another Quake /vr/ project. If one comes about I might help, and I'll maintain the Violent Rumble Mega folder and whatnot, but someone with a coherent vision and ability to get people onboard has to lead it.

>>9969613
The maps you get greatly vary even between versions of Oblige, though it's not surprising that Obsidian is full of Doomcute stuff more than procgen logic since it's what came out of Obaddon.

>>9969629
Not related to >>9969597 but I used a berserk to get through the prison bit in TNT. Once I started to suffer from withdrawal, all the rest of the enemies became passive and this persisted into Steel. Only other mods I’m using are droplets and a brightmaps pack.

Do i need to know the basics of HD before trying deathsneeder?

>>9969629
Yeah, it's not a huge thing. The last level does show as The End on the Flagship's computer though.

Also the BFG has the unload option as +unload instead of +user3 so it shows up as UNBOUND in the inventory.

Gentlemen may I present to you a legit Good Looking thread.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132809-doom-vs-freedoom-enemies/

>>9969663
>

>>9969642
Huh. That's super weird. I'll have to check it out later. I've kind of had the exact opposite happen to me on Going Down: resurrected allied monsters would blast me to bits despite having the friendly flag. Never found the cause and couldn't reproduce it. Can you reproduce the zerk thing at least? First time I'm hearing of that issue.

>>9969652
Mainly the weapon/mag controls are identical. It'd definitely be easier for you if you're coming from HD, but you don't need to know anything about it to get into DS.

>>9969658
Will fix later.

>>9969663
based

>>9969663
>>9969671
i've used 2x for a few weeks, anything above looks gross and reminds me of picrel.
i finally abandoned because texture junction on big panels like the green marble demon portraits is broken.
maybe one day AI will do it justice but eh...

>>9969634
Getting people on board for something more familiar like Doom is already pretty tricky. It's admirable what you got for Violent Rumble in the first place.

>>9969663
>hq4x filter + ugly freedoom sprites
probably the worst combination possible

>>9969663

>>9969592
>HFFM
>It got posted once on DW, got taken down
You mean the wad that was themed after gay-sex would be taken down? Wow, that's just like how that happened with other mods remotely related to sex too.

>>9969474
sun damage omen, am playing it with ashes 2 sterilized atm

>>9969558
>>9969565
>>9969631
It wasn't over the "nigger" joke, if that's what was implied, though it was just as gay. I'm an alcoholic with Asperger's, I humiliated myself over some retarded shit and thought in my still-half-drunk hungover state that erasing all pieces of my presence would ease my shame. I recanted the request a few hours later. Over and out.

"Damn I'm shit"

- Dookie Flushem

>>9969613
There is literally a setting for dead ends and you can tell the generator to cull as many as possible.

>>9969663

>>9969634
are you still sick?
How about just make 4th of July the final deadline, no idea if that one anon who promised to port-over RRP Centurions is still around here, as I wanted to ask him something regarding their possible soundbank replacement

>>9969703
Hope the best to you, anon.
I know that feeling.
>>9969663
Most accurate comment from the thread.

>>9969697
>Wow, that's just like how that happened with other mods remotely related to sex too.
Like uh... And... Er...

oh yeah, that reminds me. are the hedon apply directly to the forehead blue lady and the martyr from the citadel apart of the doom mod oc crowd?

>>9969736
>are you still sick?
No, just broadly feeling unmotivated.
>How about just make 4th of July the final deadline
I don't really want to announce yet another deadline. I think there have already been a couple instances of people going "oh, I can totally get a Quake map done in a month even though I've never made one before" and fucking off to never be heard from again as the deadline approaches. I can't blame them, but it is discouraging.
If the people who have already started maps want to get them in, then we can work towards a release. If not, then VR can sit on a shelf for the time being.
>no idea if that one anon who promised to port-over RRP Centurions is still around here
Haven't seen him post again after the first mention of it. I might just do it myself after I finish the Ring of Shadows adjustments.

>>9969754
HDoom, you fucking zoomer.

>>9969760
Hedon is a GZDoom game and The Citadel is a UE4 game. The former fits better here.

>>9969767
Can you really blame him for not knowing about HDoom when Mike12 hasn't made significant progress on it in nearly a fucking decade? All that dude does is simp for vTubers on twitch and shitpost on twitter these days.

>>9969696
kek

>>9969676
I think I might be having the same or similar problem as the other anon with the passive enemies. I go into the map, pick up the shotgun that's already there, use it to kill the flayworm that drops in behind you. And for some reason that means the other enemies don't alert to me. I can kill the worm with the knife or with my fists or even not at all and the other enemies will alert just fine. I tested with my shotgun and an MBR I had in the storage rift and it still does it. Starting the episode from a new game and it works as it should.

Now that I think of it, some enemies weren't alerting to me and spawning in when they should've before, either. But I was guessing it was the knife, not Berserk. But I was using Berserk on every map.

>>9969780
Rather, I was casting Rage. But it must have to do with the actual effect.

I worry the 'mechanics' I plan to have for this map might be too elaborate? Thoughts:
>need to power the bridge to reach the exit door
>need to get the three keys to power on the bridge
>the keys can be found by following the cables to their ends, but they're locked in containers
>the containers need their respective skull to open, which will be located somewhere in the nearby surroundings
Do you think that'll be too awkward for a player to get without something telling them what to do, or am I underestimating the player's intelligence

>>9969697
Not really, it was because it said FAGGOT in the post title and description since the wad doesn't have any -literal- porn stuff despite all the gay sex/gachi references. I remember it when it got posted and taken down.

>>9969789
Literally just use the key marking textures?

>>9969767
>theming something after sex is the same thing as straight up pornography
You're a dumb faggot. I wouldn't call you that on Doomworld though or it would 100% be the reason I was banned.

>>9969789
Always assume the worst for player's intelligence, but never compromise your vision. I think it'll be fine, anon, just show the players a visual example of the gimmick early-on.

>>9969801
>>9969806
Yeah, fair enough. I'm overthinking it probably. Cheers anons.
I actually am not sure what I'll do for the yellow key since the hut it would go with is a burnt cinder but I'll come up with something

>>9969806
If Daikatana taught us anything it's that you should compromise your vision if shit ain't working.

>>9969798
>>9969803
The chainsaw was censored too, because it was a literal dick. What do you fucking mean? Some monster sprites were slightly censored as well, but you focus on the single name being changed?

was this really that much of a big problem back then?

>>9969775
I guess the Ion Maiden money ate all of his creativity.

>>9969789
Sounds like it's fine if it's got cables showing where shit is.

>>9969389
>>9969605
After 1000h of work in GIMP, here is a very rough conceptual sketch of the logo, made from some randomly found fonts and vectors. I don't think I have needed artistic skills to make it any much more appealing though, and yet make it look good in doom as well.

Perhaps the work could be split between those knowing Hellenist architecture and pixel art? Calligraphy gods' input would also be very appropriate.

>>9969775
>>9969843
I have faith in him, guys.
Call it cope, but he'll surely deliver.
I actually do believe this is the year he'll deliver.
>>9969848
Neat.

>>9969848
That looks pretty fucking nice.

>>9969676
>Can you reproduce the zerk thing at least? First time I'm hearing of that issue.
I was able to using an earlier save in the same level. I hit the zerk, blacked out after four minutes, waited until I could climb again, and went through the portal here. The enemies immediately nearby wanted me dead, but everyone after that was chill with me.

>>9969823
>What do you fucking mean?
dude even some of the DW mods literally said it got taken down because they believed it was some kind of joke wad using homophobic slurs. Its retarded i know but that was the official reason. Stop being so fucking denial about it.

>>9969859
Composition is pretty bad however, here I tried to improve it. I may try to commission it to the actual pen and pencil artist in the following days, who could breathe life into this mock-up, but don't hold your breath.

>>9969895
>>9969605
Decent titlepic palette translation. Here's backrgound trivia for the pitch:
>According to Ovid, when Pygmalion saw the Propoetides of Cyprus practicing prostitution, he began "detesting the faults beyond measure which nature has given to women". He determined to remain celibate and to occupy himself with sculpting. He made a sculpture of a woman that he found so perfect he fell in love with it. Pygmalion kisses and fondles the sculpture, brings it various gifts, and creates a sumptuous bed for it.
>In time, Aphrodite's festival day came and Pygmalion made offerings at the altar of Aphrodite. There, too afraid to admit his desire, he quietly wished for a bride who would be "the living likeness of my ivory girl". When he returned home, he kissed his ivory statue, and found that its lips felt warm. He kissed it again, and found that the ivory had lost its hardness. Aphrodite had granted Pygmalion's wish.
In the end, let's choose whatever works.

>>9969017
Skill issue. Git gud or you'll never make it in community-created content.

>>9969962
The fuck you on about, there are plenty of wads and TCs easier then Plutonia.

>>9969736
I haven't promised anything.
To make things clear, I thought they already were in the violent rumble mod because the automaton/floid is there. Stupid on my part, I know. I wouldn't even begin to know how to port anything.

>>9969663

The fucking knife has headpat lines.

>>9969663
Shit's bait, it was bait on Doomworld and it's bait every single fucking time it gets reposted here.

>>9968451
Many games seriously underestimate the importance and fun a satisfying C4/dynamite lob can be. Blood is the best retro FPS simply for how good the dynamite is to use

>>9968468
>>9968470
They couldn't do too much with the arc or else they risked breaking Icon of Sin fights.

apply directly to the forehead

imma try to draw more uh
doom

>>9970097
She can be applied to many foreheads at once.

>>9970105
i appreciate the content even if the context is questionable

>>9970097
Cute, shame I'm not a fan of futa, draw more FPS girls.

>>9968372
is that comic supposed to be funny? did you actually let a small amount of air out of your nose and smirk when you saw that?

>>9970097
I want her to sit on me.

>>9970127
>did you actually let a small amount of air out of your nose and smirk when you saw that?
Yes, I did.

>>9970109
It's drawn by the developer, so her cannon is canon.

>>9970103
Draw Hae-Lin carrying Lord Blaz on her back like picrel

>>9970134
Is that how it works for the audience?
Whenever I draw my characters doing something goofy it's not actually them; it's just an identical copy in a situation where I can make them do things and not care about the details.
>>9970140
The roles are finally reversed.

So i just started playing deathstrider, is it normal for the merchant to follow me everywhere?

>>9969841
QRD pl0x

>>9970149
i'll prolly have to draw harder and study much more to draw kurashiki's style so i can pick up where she left off

>>9970150
Yeup. Readme says:
>You can carry the merchant by using Sprinting + Use. Put them down by crouching and holding the sprint key for half a second. If they have a hoverboard, look at them and hold Sprint for a second to toggle between "Stay" and "Follow".
I also think he's invulnerable.

>>9970150
Yes. There's a mode that makes the demons remove him from the map if you separate too far from him. You can also carry him with Run+Use, drop him down with Run+Crouch+Use or tell him to Stay or Follow by holding Run infront of him. Carrying incurs a weight penalty but it's not unplayable by any means if you aren't wielding something heavy or a lot of ammo.

>>9970154
He's not completely invulnerable, you just can't shoot him/blow him up conventionally. He's also necessary for your ammo and weaponry management, as well as extra meds and equipment you may need.

>>9970154
>>9970158
oh right, i literally read the readme beforehand but completely forgot most that was written.
Is the character supposed to be based on dr doom or something?

>>9970134
no, actually

>>9970197
does this mean
NOW NEITHER OF US WON'T BE VIRGINS

Just beat Mill for the first time and HOLY SHIT I want TNT to be over with. Took me over half an hour, the combat past the first few rooms was braindead, and the progression puzzles are becoming moronic.

>>9970208
You were warned about TNT, I'm sure you're gonna play Master Levels eventually.

So how do you bind stuff to your hotbar in Deathstrider?

>>9969597
Update on this, didn't happen at the end of episode 2. I think it's just Strange Aeons' mapinfo, not anything to do with Deathstrider.

For E2M8 it has
>next = "EndGame1"
in it.

But every other final map has
>next = endsequence, "ExEnd"
x being episode number.

>>9970197
He's not exactly gonna admit to anything different on one of the platforms he's selling it on, he's liable to get an age gate slapped onto it.

Gotta sell to all them teenage Civvie fans.

>>9970234
Go to whatever you want to put on it in the menu and hold whatever button you bound the hotbar to, and press a number.

The cameraz jerks around a lot when I', punching enemies in gzdoom. How the fuck do I make that stop? It's annoying.

>>9970250
Thanks.
Next question: how do I load empty mags?

>>9970261
Press F1 while on a menu. Any menu. It will tell you at the top.

>>9970248
Anon a game has to have the porn content in the actual game to be considered porn, the creator could release a three hundred page comic of Hedon porn and it wouldn't affect the age rating of the game.

>>9970265
Many thanks!

>>9968372
Word came to me that rusgov took a measure to keep the virgin eyes of its citizens safe from gachi doom mods. How is it for you ruanons, are .org and .co domains for rentry reachable for you? I may be forced to relocate to another markdown host, or do something else if Mozza's website won't come through.

>>9970280
>if Mozza's website won't come through.
Mozza has fucking died again and his site is down, so I wouldn't count on that.

>>9970270
Description on the game for Steam says it contains tiddys, and Valve are notorious for being random and inconsistent with even their own rules on that shit when it comes to small developers.

>>9970280
just use 0x0.st

in this drawing i picture him making the same wake up sound the annihilator custom cyberdemon makes
im not sure where it came from but it sounds like this
uuuaaahgghgh

>>9968372
Thy Flesh Consumed gets pretty pathetic after the third level.

>>9970319
see look i found a video of the noise he makes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3PjnoKeCqQ

>>9970289
Last time I've seen the site, it was clunky performance hog, so maybe he is busy improving it. Big loss without him around.

>>9970296
Neat, although I don't see how file hosting will help in this case, sounds like a clumsy way of doing things. Are links permanent if I re-upload/update the same file?

>>9970353
>It is possible to append your own file name to the URL
Never mind, maybe they are. I'll look into this if it comes to hosting pdf files or something.

>>9969881
>>9969780
Do either of you have any compat options set in GZDoom's settings? I can reproduce as described if I have the following set to On.
>Compatibility -> Sound -> Use original sound target handling
I'm still investigating, but so far it seems to be a compatibility option thing. I only checked out of curiosity and turns out I forgot the setting on Boom (strict). Haven't figured out WHY exactly it happens.

>>9970353
>I don't see how file hosting will help in this case,
you need a way to host text files that isn't banned in Russia and that's what this is.
>sounds like a clumsy way of doing things.
I've seen people use it just as they would Pastebin or Rentry, its quite simple.
there's a few upsides to it in my view, such as not being restricted to plaintext and markdown. only downside I see is the expiration deal, but I don't know the exact details of that all.
>Are links permanent if I re-upload/update the same file?
I think the expiration date can be moved forward. worst case you just have to reupload it and update the url once a year.

>>9970213
>Master Levels
Played through this.
It's not terrible. Most of it isn't great. If you absolutely have to play through all of the official releases, it's not terrible.
If you don't feel a compulsion to play through all of the official releases, just play Black Tower and TEETH. They're good. Black Tower in particular is one of the more memorable official levels, period.

>>9970389
Nevermind. It was because zerk messed with the FRIENDLY flag on the player when it should have only done that for monsters. I'm not sure if any of the compat options messed with it somehow because I got different results with the faulty code, but it wasn't too consistent so whatever. It's fixed now. Thank you for reporting it.

>>9970423
master levels basically feels like if you pressed random file on idgames archive 800 times and then took the 20 least shitty levels from it

>>9969962
I play community created content just fine. I just dont play shitty maps that aren't fun. My time is valuable and theres tons of wads to play. Especially maps that spawn a circle of barons and a archvile in a tiny space around a key after a long route of boring hallways. Especially when its being skimpy on medkits and ammo. Its not interesting or well designed difficulty, its just troll mapping. Speed on the other hand is incredible and open ended despite being difficult and claustrophic. Plutonia is mostly good to great but some maps are just pure shit. But its probably because they had to make it in such a small time span.

>>9970197
>primarily a smut artist
then why is his art so shit?

>>9970389
>>9970427
Oh nice. I'll mention anyway that I only use the one to limit Pain Elemental souls.

>>9968376
>FORE/VR/ ALONE
claiming AK-15 from Girls' Frontline so I'm accountable for finishing this thing

>>9970486
He's gotten a bit better. I like his texture work, but his sprites are hit an miss.

>>9969520
I'll freely regard Redditors as lower lifeforms, but if they made a .wad and I heard it was good, I'll give it a look and see if it's true. I have a lot of dislike for many aspects of Doomworld and ZDoom forums, but am I just gonna lie and say that people there don't actually make cool shit?

>>9970434
If you did that 27 years ago, sure, I've occasionally rolled some good shit on idgames roulette which I was glad to find.

>>9970560
His environmental design is pretty fucking great, just not so much his sprites or encounter design.

no rest for the living is so good
so fucking good

>>9970097
>forehead
Let's see it

>>9970573
>but am I just gonna lie and say that people there don't actually make cool shit?
It's something we roundabout talked about in threads about a month back, that some of the twattiest developers make some decent stuff, especially when it comes to <cancelled developer>'s mods.

As a former literal tournament-tier competitive clan Quake player, I am really enjoying Brutal Doom Power Fantasy edition. It's just what I need to relax after a long day of doing whatever it is I do. Overpowered? Yes. Gaudy? Yes. Completely, ridiculously unnecessary? Yes. Do I care? No.
I've earned this.

*crack*

*sip*

What is the most technically impressive wad?
What wad has the best aesthetics/level design?
What wad is the most experimental?

>>9970573
My point was the site it's posted on has nothing to do with the quality of it and people shouldn't pre-judge any map just because it's posted on a site you don't like.
>>9970606
Yep, a shame id didn't get Nerve to make another wad for the Unity ports, the Quake re-release got Dimension of the Machine which was excellent.

>>9969592
>It got posted once on DW, got taken down and you all cried about it pretending 'there's nothing offensive'' when you fags knows exactly what was the reason.
>thus the project lead made a fucking 'friendly' version of the mapset which I find it so ironic. (Hard fast fun maps, i think?)
There was already a couple of versions, and the primary benefit of omitting the word fag (and the Cacodemon's dildo and anal beads) was so people could play it on YouTube and Twitch without getting banned, if that wouldn't be a risk, probably those variants wouldn't have been made.
Some rando went and posted the uncensored version on Doomworld ahead of time, which went predictably, but likely it wouldn't have gone much better otherwise. Is HFFM offensive? If you're either just an absolutely titanic pussy who can't take an affectionate use of some mildly harsh language, or if you're just hopelessly terrified of The Gays, then I guess it would be, but I think that it's a pretty fucking far cry from Moonman.wad or that Ethnic Cleansing game.

>>9969592
>it can be prejudicial to other mappers who collaborated in the project
We didn't have H.P Lovecraft's fucking cat mapping for Ad Mortem, what the fuck do you want? I get keeping some 'no-no' words off of projects like these which unlike HFFM isn't steeped deeply in ironic/"ironic" gay jokes and general goofy obscenity, but that's completely missing the context.

Lovecraft had a cat which was honest to god named Niggerman, which is funny at a glance because it feels like another example of his infamously extreme and sometimes bizarre xenophobia and racism. It's a frequently joked about aspect of his works.

Where it gets more interesting is when you find out that it was his father who named the cat, and that as he mellowed in his attitudes with age, coming to terms with how he's actually a fucking weird person who isn't fit for society, he had thoughts about renaming the cat, but decided it would be unkind to force an elderly cat to learn a new name.
He wrote Niggerman into one of his stories, which had someone make a joke about calling for his help in the face of one of the cosmic horror monsters he famously wrote, and the line is quoting that joke.

tl;dr it's a joke about Lovecraft's racism and the absurdity of both a housecat named Niggerman of all fucking things, but also the absurdity of calling for its aid against evil deities. You act like it's a page out of The Turner Diaries or some shit.

>Makes me wonder what the reception of fore/vr/ alone will be
>it will be fine, as long it doesn't have some retarded controversy-bait bullshit there
Some effeminate retard will probably be in hysterics and desperately gasp for air because someone's cartoon waifu is under 18 or some shit.

>>9970620
post proof epeen masturbator

>>9969663
Dios mio

>>9970678
What do you want? My 320x240 software rendering screenshot gallery of tourney scoreboards? 1997 IRC chatlogs?

>>9970693
Mods? I wanna try out that reflective liquid

>>9970683
yeah

>>9970620
>I am really enjoying Brutal Doom Power Fantasy edition
Perfectly fine and reasonable to play it however you like.

>>9970280
Damn, don't let them take your gachi from you.

>>9970702
Ok here you go *belches Monster Energy breath all over you* Haha enjoy kiddo
Hey don't worry about it, you're alright *smacks you on the ass*

I don't think you guys would want to see 1997 IRC chat lots, there's a lot more dick jokes and calling each other faggots than I think you're accustomed to.

>>9970702
For posting Rally in a Doom thread, you get this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ou2MRT6Bc

>>9970671
It's clear Lovecraft's xenophobia and racism was born more from his terrible mental heath and state then anything, the guy was afraid of everything,
>>9970702
Man why didn't we get a Gunsmith Cats FPS, Rally is perfect.

>>9970718
plz don't. i am a virgin and want to get to heaven

>>9970701
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=76706
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=74940

On Relighting settings you might wanna navigate to GL Shader Options and set Bleeding (0 dis) to 0 otherwise the whole image looks very saturated. If you set the shader off it breaks water reflections (I'm using Gamma 0 Saturation 1 Bleeding 0 RG On Preset None).

>>9970718
suck my dick faggot

>>9970708
From my cold, dead, ass.

>>9970718
Stop I'm gonna cum

>>9970693
Wall textures remind me of the Marathon 2 HD textures.

>>9970724
>Gunsmith Cats FPS
"Be the change you want to see..."

Best Doom launcher? I've been using ZDL, it's fine, it works, but it's kind of old. It never remembers the last visited directory which was annoying when looking for wads, and saving/loading presets is really clunky.

>>9970759
I really liked this one because it preserves the original style and it's low res.

>>9970790
Probably DoomRunner now. Last update was 2 days ago. Far superior to ZDL imho.

https://github.com/Youda008/DoomRunner

>>9968496
I know any wad will do but I'm looking for a wad that really maximizes what DoomRLA has to offer. I've been trying it with Doom 2 Reloaded and Temper Tantrum but I feel like I'm not getting the full experience because of the relatively low monster counts.

>>9970790
Batch files.

>>9970790
writing my own

>>9970806
Astronomically based. The only good answer to this question.

>>9970806
Link it

>>9970828
maybe once I finish it.

I should probably just write my own. You know what would be great? Tabs. Imagine just having all your wads and preset settings in a tab, and you can easily just clone them or close them like a browser window.

>>9970832
DoomRunner does that.

>>9970606
It is, mostly. Kind of a let down for a final level - too easy to grab the invulnerability then take out the Cyberdemon at leisure.
Still a better final level than a shitty retard IoS though.

>>9970837
Well... I guess those are like tabs.... but they're not horizontal.....

>>9970790
doom launcher is really good

to the 2 (3?) people that played ctom here, what do you think about a slight rebalance for hard and easy? I have an itch and it itches but it feels like just blowing smoke up my own ass at this point.

>>9969841
Making a huge texture for an arrow is a complete waste for 1997. A simple 32x32 texture would be just as visually effective for the machines of the era.

>>9969663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3p_VuPIS2c

I won't post anything from Diyu just yet because it keeps fucking with my mind in ways I had no idea it was possible even more than the previous stages did

>>9970292
Considering they now have Kuroinu on Steam I think the rules are basically anything goes provided you have a patch for it and include none of the porn content in the original release.

>>9970152
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Daikatana_(Windows)/Milestone_2/#The Infamous Arrow Texture
>The fabled "hilariously large arrow texture" mentioned in GameSpot's Daikatana retrospective is present in this build's data\skin folder. While not as large as the article says, it is still far too large for a goddamn arrow, especially for 1997-era computers.

>>9970790
I dunno, there are like a dozen launchers and this intimidates me, so I haven't tried most of them yet.

>>9970798
Just got this but it's not working properly. Doesn't open for some reason. Do I need to install any specific version of visual C redistributables or something? Been a long time ZDL user, also.

>>9970790
I use my own (AceCorp Launcher) because I play with like 30 mods, nearly all of which are on git so I needed a way to update them all with a single button because I'm a lazy piece of shit. Also I hate light themes. If you're not a poweruser, ACL is probably not for you.

>>9970280
>How is it for you ruanons, are .org and .co domains for rentry reachable for you?
Yeah, it i... Wait, Rentry actually doesn't load anymore. Oh well, I'm using VPN on regular basis anyway. Thanks for the heads-up, anon.

So I was playing deathstrider and got pandora/s box. Is it permanent or should I just keep playing and it'll "resolve" itself?

>>9971094
May god have mercy on your poor soul.
Stay inside a rift when it explodes to get rid of it. Keep in mind rifts are rarer while you have the box. Good luck.

>>9970790
>Best Doom launcher?
Doom launcher

>>9970790
DoomRunner is my go-to. Doom Launcher is nice too if you don't mind taking some extra time to set it up properly.

>>9970149
>Is that how it works for the audience?
“The audience” is a real broad term, and I think some will have a hard time decoupling the character away from the smut created by the dev themselves.
>>9970427
>Thank you for reporting it.
Of course, and thank you for the fun mod.
>>9970895
Yes. Please do more with it, the combat’s very good and I would test more of it. Also, is there supposed to be no music? I’m fine with that.
>>9971021
>I won't post anything from Diyu just yet because it keeps fucking with my mind in ways I had no idea it was possible even more than the previous stages did
Appropriate reaction.
It’s funny for me because there was a discussion a few weeks back about how some of us wanted more open or labyrinthian Quake levels. Shortly after, I entered the Diyu.

>>9971192
>Yes. Please do more with it, the combat’s very good and I would test more of it. Also, is there supposed to be no music? I’m fine with that.

It really isn't going to be much of a difference, I am thinking only to make hard a little easier and easy a little harder. And maybe you should read the document, even if my bitterness comes through in it.

Who doesnt like some hallway rocket dodging?

>>9971192
>Diyu is typically depicted as a subterranean maze with various levels and chambers, to which souls are taken after death to atone for the sins they committed when they were alive.
Sounds about right. . .

>>9971205
Me, because I'm not a masochist.

Basedsphere...

>>9971353
now we need the megachad

>>9970280
Didn't open at first, but it's very easy to fix if you're using something like goodbyedpi. Just add rentry.org into russia-blacklist textfile and voila.

>>9971353
Trust the UAC!

>>9970737
You can turn the saturation down and still use the bleeding without it getting over-saturated. I still prefer the regular vanilla saturation, but just saying. I fucked with all the settings for a while.

>>9971205
>your eardrums drip through whatever is left of your nose because you stepped to far to the side

>>9971202
I read it all this time, sucks hearing about the bitterness but it was still a decent read and answers some questions. I prefer ambient tracks or no music at all for my Quakes.
>>9971261
>chinese underworld themes, references to “woodwose” wood people, sporadic yellow signs, ceiling vores
The whole thing’s a trip.

>>9970790
>It never remembers the last visited directory which was annoying when looking for wads
It's really intended for dragging and dropping wads into the window.

>>9970724
You should submit a Rally map to Fore/vr/ Alone

>>9970790
https://st.suckless.org/

>>9970790
I'm more of a rocket launcher guy myself

>>9970895
>ctom
I've been away, what is this now?

>>9971656
A map that anon shared in the previous thread.

>>9971656
A Quoth map I enjoyed a lot, an anon posted it here a few days ago >>9961041

>>9971686
Thanks.

Here's a video showing a full playthrough of the Eto map https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K0HH99ok_4 if anyone is interested.

>>9971523
Never made a map before, I certainly wouldn't have my first be part of a community project.

>>9972019
>Dakka + Kegan's monster set
Nice.

>>9970724
>Man why didn't we get a Gunsmith Cats FPS, Rally is perfect.
Look one post above yours, that's why.

A few more questions about Cube. Does petting him do anything more than this? What determines how much experience he gets from killing enemies? He's at 140ish/400 right now and one encounter had him go right to level two. Reloading and doing the same encounter and he's barely breaking 160. Weird.

Also how many Black Death entries are there? I've unlocked four. I think. It says 4 in the .ini.

>>9972043
What wad.

>>9972051
Judging by the sky and bushes and stuff, probably Strange Aeons.

>>9971541
I found almost all the secrets in this map EXCEPT the very first one (WidowMaker shotty), also what's the deal with that inaccessible part near the Player1's starting position with a walled-off lift implying that it's where you came from into that level?
IIRC that place has an alternate levelexit trigger for some reason

>>9971458
Getting repedately fucked-over by those traps that shoot straight at your postition made me wonder if there's other mods featuring such nasty suprises
(I remember one of the official addons doing something like that with a Thunderbolt-shooting trap, but there was a fun trick that you can do to have it kill other monsters for you)

>>9972043
>Does petting him do anything more than this?
It bumps the level by +1 for the purpose of damage. You can get it to L5 that way, albeit temporarily.

>What determines how much experience he gets from killing enemies?
The cube gains 1 experience for every enemy hit per attack. More enemies = more experience. May need to rebalance it at some point, but given that it's an endgame artifact I'm fine with it. Making progression too slow may result in being unable to max it out unless you play like Sunlust or something.

>Also how many Black Death entries are there?
3, for now. What you're describing is a bug. Fixed.

I prefer Quake 2's weapons over Quake despite the weird lack of muzzle flash, they just look and sound so much better.

>>9972092
I only like the railgun and that's it. My perfect Quake game would be Quake 1 as it is but instead of the stupid lightning gun you get the railgun from quake 2. And I mean completely erasing the lighting gun from the code.

>>9969381
speaking of which, do you anons know any mapsets with similar feel? i get that there is plenty of babby`s first wads composed of massive empty rooms, but did you ever see anyone do it in a tasteful desolate fashion?

>>9972051
>>9972065
Yup.

>>9972085
Huh. How long does it last? The rest of the map? Was that why he showed as having leveled up in the inventory?

>3, for now. What you're describing is a bug. Fixed.

Nice. Does Harbinger have entries, too?

>>9969663
>an abstract kind of hell

In UDB/UDMF format, if I've got 3 switches and I need all three of them to be pressed to cause a THING to happen (but they can be pressed in any order), what's a good way to do that.
My thought was maybe to have each switch to cause a thing to happen three times, and you need to press all three for it to function.If I lower a ceiling on a monster, will it die?

>>9972138
Sorry, Ultimate Doom Builder, working for GZDoom. I'm gonna try the thing I mentioned.

>>9972138
I don't know how UDMF works exactly, but from what I heard about it, you should be able to just set a variable or something in a script?

>>9972109
But would you make the Shamblers keep their lighning-bolt attacks or give them railguns?
>you'd be suprised how short can 340 points RA can last once you get cornered by a horde of Spawns...

>>9972153
yeah, shamblers can keep being electric bois I dont care.

>>9972074

>>9968987
what are you using in your webm?

>>9972127
>How long does it last? The rest of the map? Was that why he showed as having leveled up in the inventory?
5 minutes. And yup.

>Does Harbinger have entries, too?
Not yet. I haven't had any good ideas for that one, but given that it's Solomon's signature weapon it's kind of lame that it doesn't have any. I need to think about that. The scythe deserves some love too for sure. There's just very little I can do for it to make it a legendary artifact because it's not exactly possessed or speshul. Although it does have a mind of its own as it'll refuse to stay on you if you're evil. Maybe I'll expand on that, though I'm not sure how I feel about ALL the artifacts being properly sentient. It seems kinda weak. I may redo the lore for that one entirely.

>>9972146
I've been trying to avoid ACS because I'm a lazy retard and don't know scripting.

ok I'm trying to learn ACS now
is there anything simpler than https://zdoom.org/wiki/A_quick_beginner's_guide_to_ACS
as a guide?

>>9972205
No. Those are the absolute basics. Anything simpler than that would have to use caveman language for ultra retarded people.

>>9972173
Okay, I was wondering why I hadn't heard him say one of his level up lines.

It could be slowly growing sentience instead of just outright having it because something else was put in it.

This is a weird and specifc thing to ask, but would it be at all possible to have the Candlelight spell function as a "torch" for interacting with GZDoom's "ENV shows stealth monsters" option?

>>9972219
Dang.
Well, I found a script that does what I want it to so that's okay. New issue: hiding a switch behind a floor/platform doesn't stop it from being pressed. I'm sure someone's already fixed this.

Since there seems to be a wad or mod for every kind of mood, what kind of wads should I play if I'm drunk?

>>9972272
Abort_M, Ouch_M, Imp Encounter

>>9972263
Ah, wait, I think 'block use actions' might be what I need.

>>9972079
>Getting repedately fucked-over by those traps that shoot straight at your postition made me wonder if there's other mods featuring such nasty suprises
Warpspasm spared no time in showing me its nonsense and how much it's not going to fuck around.
>>9972109
Make it's rate of fire the same as the rocket launcher, and also make it a gun and not a staff. Love ya Dwell E2, but...
>>9972165
The base they use for that shambler skin is my favorite shambler look.
>>9972168
>what are you using in your webm?
Modwise? It's Deathstrider.

>>9972246
>It could be slowly growing sentience instead of just outright having it because something else was put in it.
... Not a bad idea.

For the Candlelight thing, I don't think so. At least not how you probably want it. The spell itself uses just a dynamic light, whereas the option requires a fullbright powerup, which renders the former useless. I might be able to reimplement the anti-stealth effect itself. Will try that tomorrow. I never use the enhanced night vision so expect a lot of creative liberties to get applied. No guarantees because I can already see cloaking shields giving me a fucking headache.

>>9972292
Could even take it further and make it the neutral weapon and having it behave/develop differently depending on what your alignment is.

Yeah, don't worry about it if it's too much trouble. I just like having ways of making some of SA's enemies visible. Wasn't even considering the cloaking shield.

>>9972304
>Could even take it further and make it the neutral weapon and having it behave/develop differently depending on what your alignment is.
Technically, that's the cube, even if right now it's only limited to voice lines. Harbinger will always be a good-aligned weapon. It fits the lore better, plus I need something to contrast miss genocide. Contrast good.

I wish I could break my Reddit visiting habit.

To the red boat taihou waifu guy:
If you teleport back to the main stage from the end level teleporter, when you reach the down lift at the end of the first are you get this. Can't go down either.
Played on GZdoom,tried boom and default compatibility.

The mission can now technically be completed, everything's wired up and you need to pick up the relevant bits.
Now to finish adding enemies, props, and generally sprucing things up. Can't believe I might actually have this map be finished.

>>9972019
BTW i'm also the maker of the map.
Originally i submitted Eto as "anon" but i got a bit proud of how this map ended up and that people liked it.
If the waifu project manager feels like it, you can replace "anon" with my handle as used in this channel.

>>9972275
You better not be messin' with me anon. I know nothing about this wad and will play it totally blind.

>>9970790
Thirding DoomRunner, not as flashy with tags and screenshots and such, but it's easy mix and match mods, maps, presets, and configs from one tab.

>>9972354
>I know nothing about this wad and will play it totally blind.
It is best to go in blind, or out of it blind.

>>9972354
Abort_M got taken down due to copyright. Make sure you get the uncensored version. There's a link on reddit but I won't post it.
I think Ouch_M is very barebones in comparison also

I miss the sky may be.

thanks to all the feedback I am now using DOOMRUNNER and it is awesome, thanks

>>9972526
Both are in one of the OP links.

>>9972027
not stopping me, once i release my waifu map it will honestly be my first doom map.

Love the venom

What's the worst source port still in development and why?

>>9972345
Looks cool. Looking forward to giving it a try.

>>9972584
gzdoom haha heh

>>9972584
It's not GZDoom and I say that as someone who shits on it for it's awful performance.

if you're autistic enough to care about whatever tiny irrelevant differences exist between doom source ports you should probably get a girlfriend and eat some pussy

>eat some pussy
wtf i'm not a cannibal

>>9972638
We don't do the /v/ shitpost bait thing here pal

So is Doom Runner just the best launcher, assuming you don't need any specific features that it doesn't have?

>>9972584
EDGE-Classic. It's practically flaunting this as soon as you go into the settings menu

I thought I was gonna put down doom for good after finishing Final Doom, but now I'm playing doom 2 in spain only and getting reamed by m26.
Don't need help just bitching

>>9972636
It runs just fine in OpenGL ES mode.

>>9972092
I wish the chaingun/hyperblaster were more user friendly. And the weapon switching took less time.