/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9611263#p9611406

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
Still kicking
Deadline: May 31st

=== NEWS ===
[4-6] New E4 inspired episode for Quake
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/the-spiritworld.208/

[4-3] Wad Scorecard v1.6 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/133645-wad-scorecard-v16now-in-dark-theme-a-spreadsheet-for-tracking-your-adventures-in-doom/

[4-2] What is Health? RC1 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/134785

[4-2] Raze 1.7.0 released
https://github.com/ZDoom/Raze/releases/tag/1.7.0

[4-2] Anon shares a map about finding the lost 94 Protons release build
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vww5Y1FKFayLAN3mDGuOdbTg5WMIjZf_/view?usp=share_link

[4-1] Cripsy 6.0 released, now supporting Strife
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/crispy-doom/releases/tag/crispy-doom-6.0

[4-1] Slade updated to 3.2.2.
https://github.com/sirjuddington/SLADE/releases/tag/3.2.2

[4-1] VALORANT: Antivax Edition released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/134769

[3-28] Doom Master Wadazine #20 is out
https://wadazine.com/portofolio/

[3-23] Temporal Tantrum is out on Idgames
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/temp_tantrum

[3-23] TrenchBroom 2023.1 released
https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2023.1

[3-18] Anon shares his widescreen Heretic graphics
https://files.catbox.moe/buu3ix.zip

[3-18] La Tailor Girl updated to v1.89
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1238204#p1238204

[3-17] New Ironwail just dropped
https://github.com/andrei-drexler/ironwail

[3-14] Half-Life MMOD released
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1761270/HalfLife_MMod/

[3-14] vkQuake updated to 1.30.0
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases

[3-14] Rampancy 2.0 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=67193

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Good OP image.

dam bro there's 15 of you but i can't see shit

>>9803556
Is Death Wish still borked in Raze? Last I checked, I couldn't blow up the wall in E2M2 near the beginning to progress; before that, the space elevator in E2M3 didn't work at all; and before THAT, the final boss of E2 killed itself 1 minute into the actual level.

>>9803573
Any good wads from Khazakstan?

>>9803573
Actually it's Doom.

>>9803567
https://github.com/clipmove/NotBlood
Join us
>>9803578
Holy shit Carlos

>>9803563
nice, I enjoy quake and quake modding.

>>9803563
>Half-Life straight mentioned
Yes it was.
>Telefragged shitty
It's not THAT bad
>secret enemy remember post
Dedicated trolls be like that
>consider interesting grenade
That's one for you modders out there

>>9803563
>dislike annoying brutalist
Brutal doom sisters, not like this...

>>9803605
>consider interesting grenade
>That's one for you modders out there

There's a weapon like that in MDK. I technically made something like this in Combined_Arms too, with the spicy bait for the Past Linked set.

>>9803578

>>9803563
>higher asshole sprites
>instant came
>dislike annoying brutalist
>shooting supposed shotguns
>shotgun death world

>>9803563
>shooting supposed shotguns

heh

>>9803563
>elder ports
what was the 1st source oprt

>>9803676
DOSDoom, porting the released source code (for Linux) back to DOS.

I remember using 3D models for JDoom back in the early 2000's and thinking it was the coolest shit ever.

I love messing around in maps with noclip to find hidden easter eggs and other bullshit left by the mappers

VIOLENT RUMBLE UPDATE: Shield Overhaul Edition
Shields are now a valuable piece of equipment rather than lame timed powerups.

both shields:
>block 75% of damage from the front
>have 350 health
>have pain skins/frames for health getting low
>lose health equal to blocked damage
>lose 1 health per shield bash
>healed by armor shards for 2 health each
>have a shield bash when ramming enemies with the effectiveness/damage scaling with player velocity (and thus the haste buff)
Empathy Shield:
>enemies can be impaled on the spike if they're small enough or the player is moving fast enough
>otherwise a large amount of damage is dealt
>impaled enemies will take most of the damage that would otherwise go to the shield
>can be rammed into other enemies to hurt them both
>the axe or gauntlet can be used to remove them if there isn't another enemy in range
Power Shield:
>rammed enemies are likely to be stunned briefly, and may be knocked backwards
>knocked back enemies will damage any other enemies they hit along with themselves
>blocking generates cells equal to a tenth of the blocked damage
>if cells are full, the shield will shoot lightning at attackers with damage equaling what was blocked
misc:
>laser rifle charging re-animated to not be tied to framerate (idk wtf I was thinking before)
>new system for in-map func_breakable debris models (check the new pottest map for examples)
>laser.mdl frame for the fan-shot made larger so it's actually visible in movement
>Empathy Shield can be given with impulse 253
>Power Shield can be given with impulse 254

The shield models are a bit jittery with no real way around it. Disabling head bob (cl_bob 0) helps a lot, and Ironwail is way smoother than vkQuake.
That's about it. Remember to get the new/updated models in progs, and the pbump.wav sound effect in sound/shield.
Also check out anon's map, Close-Quarters Runage (cqr.bsp), now in the maps folder.

VR megafolder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ

Slough of Despair
We all agree it's the worst map right?

>>9803719
E2M9 and Nirvana imo

>>9803573
>not love from mars
un (1) trabajo

>>9803747
hell actually
I considered it

>>9803719
I will never agree that E3M2 is worse than E3M1.
I don't like Slough, but I fucking HATE Hell Citadel.
>>9803723
>picrel

>>9803747
>this map goes very hard
>love from Deimos Base
>I hate marines so much it's abstract

>>9803563
>small real long little great
>fucked ago hard yes love
>asshole sprites
>lost making music
>gameplay wrong
>total trap classic
>another spawn

>>9803715
This looks wonderful

>>9803715
Damn this is great

>>9803715
is he ok?

>>9803790
Yeah, he's just gonna' have a bit of a headache.

>>9803715
lmao

>>9803715
This is really cool, but depending on what hallway is cleared first in CQR, the remainder of the rooms now play substantially different. I'll leave the map untouched for now, and likely forever, since this new change in mechanics is very fun, and indirectly serves as a way to make the map easier and less "bullshit you didn't see coming killing you" which is something I struggled to alleviate before deciding to finalize things and move on.

>>9803683
that really is one of those things that kind of surprises me, all the doom source code we use is the linux code, not the OG Dos code cus it used some sound thing that had copyrights

>>9803715
Would it be possible to move the gun model off to the right when a shield is active?

>>9803719
Central Processing is the worst official classic DOOM map I have played.

I may need to make adjustments to how easy it is to impale higher-tier enemies by grappling into them...

>>9803823
I think it will be fine since the room you get the shield in is likely to wear its health down pretty substantially before you can take it through the rest of the level. Thanks again for the submission.
>>9803919
Not really. There is shockingly little ability to influence the viewmodel via QuakeC without some CSQC trickery that only a couple engines can support. Even the view offset commands that a few engines have only move your camera, not the viewmodel itself (though maybe FTE is an exception).
You'd pretty much have to make new, offset models for every weapon.

>strogue
i'd played the demo back in the day but never saw the op cinematic, this whole time i thought strogg was like "frog"

I don't want to play Doom 2016/eternal because it's not doomguy. Doomslayer is gay and he looks gay and acts gay. And not the good kind of gay. Or the bad kind either. Just straight up gay as hell and I don't like it

>>9803719
I like a bit of Slough action every now and then. I don't really like E2M7: Spawning Vats though

I quite don't get what's this vocal frustration on iwads is actually all about. I played so much custom content that any merit of iwads being official became moot - random office reenaction map made by some white collar back in 95 is no less valid. You can't be that new to still be dwelling on your obtuse hateboner for Sandy, can you? Also, TNT was not supposed to be commercial to begin with, humour the thought.

>>9804058
Non retro

>>9804058
well, you are posting in the right place.

>>9803567
Those bugs should be fixed but I would still recommend staying with version Raze 1.5.0 as the latest version (1.7.0) has splash damage weirdness.

>>9804058
Okay.

>>9804082
>Non retro
I know. I'm saying the new one isn't as good as the retro one. I like the retro one better and they should have just upgraded the retro one. In my opinion

>>9799745
>>9799753
I can't really offer any useful advice concerning the framerate issues on the clock tower map from violent rumble since I'm unfamiliar with the prog changes that (probably) caused it, but since I made the map I figured I'd say something. I'm pretty sure the func_movewalls aren't the culprit. I tested it in a few ports before release (quakespasm, vkquake, markV) but didn't encounter any big frame drops. It's a bit weird.
Also since the project is still somehow going I might make a minor update to fix some textures.
>>9799913
>bounding boxes
Yeah, I remember being really frustrated by the fucky rotation collision playing hip1m3 during the rock tumbler part so I figured anywhere it might impact gameplay collision accuracy is key.

>muh chad polak fighting muh evil germanz
retard kike fantasy, just as the game(s)
rtcw was good, but that had more to do with gray matter making it good, not the theme of the game - all other games sucking since then is proof enough.
this series is dead, good riddance.

>>9803556
How outdated is this?

>>9804265
fairly in a few categories, not at all in others.

Hot take: Copper is the Bwootal Doom of Quake mods.

>>9804298

is there a way to make yamagi mute audio when minimized?

>RRP is getting talked of lately
Anyone else tried the alternate route in Telefragged that causes you to start with a DBS and no axe after wasting a resurrection artifact?

>>9804269
No it isn't - that would be "anevil" if Tronyn ever got to finish that mod 15 years ago the Copper Fiends wish they were as dangerous as they are in there

>>9802398
Anon my lametop is now old enough to be deflowered my a devout muslim, please understand

>>9803715
I'm not going to use Ironwail

>>9804269
Wat no that's literally Quake 1.5

>>9804058
Yeah, it's absolutely not Doom.
Thankfully, it's also not retro so just post about the good ones instead.

>>9804269
In terms of what it does? No, it's only minor changes of varying quality and a seeming emphasis on making the game a tiny bit harder at the expense of the same amount of fun.

In terms of reception? Yes. The people who love Copper defend it like its their firstborn, while the people who hate it blow things out of proportion but also have a point because it's fucking everywhere to an obnoxious degree. If the guys behind Slipseer release a mapping project nine times out of ten it uses that fucking mod and that's the bit that actually annoys me.

play my fucking map. feedback much appreciated. MAP01, -complevel 9, boom format. tested with dsda-doom. thanks
https://files.catbox.moe/mqeepe.wad

>>9804298
Kek, I'm assuming this was from the 90s when they were fighting guys America didn't like. If it's from later then that's hilarious.

>>9804298
lol

>>9804323
>Anyone else tried the alternate route in Telefragged that causes you to start with a DBS and no axe after wasting a resurrection artifact?
No, but it sounds interesting. I really wasn't wowed by Telefragged and found it poorly designed from a first time player's point of view, but after some retrospection it's a pretty neat level as long as you've already actually played it.
>>9804351
Same, but only because my machine is so broken and old that it won't work.
The moment I get a better laptop/computer I'm also replacing Quakespasm.

>>9804371
what source port do I need for this shit, I only use crispy doom

>>9803578
Damn it. This made me laugh way more than it should've.
>>9803715
Awesome. I think there's a lot of good meme potential with screenshots like >>9803960.

>>9804371
Pretty good. I cheated and turned on multiplayer in case I died, but didn't need it as the level turned out to be pleasantly standard in difficulty (UV). The archvile maze confused me a bit on how to avoid them but I managed to blunder through, the raised walls makes you panic a bit.

The level is nicely decorated, I give props to you for the effort in making things look good. That's something I dont have the patience and tools for.

Some of the mancubi that are stuck in confined spaces are basically just ammo sponges, they can't really move around and get anything done and can even be bypassed and ignored. The placement in the final setpiece is nice, mancubi are always nastier when your attention gets pulled away from them.

Couldn't find the non-berzerk secret.

Good stuff. Nowdays people sometimes are trying to make some ultra-hard or fantasticly feature-loaded map, but yours is a polished, familiar style that feels comfy. Maybe could be a little less claustraphobic, but it's not like it's an open outdoors map.

Oh yeah, I love the music.

>>9803715
Can't download this now apparently. Does cl_nopext 1 fix the jitter in vkQuake? If it does, the next release will fix it.

>>9804269
>>9803563
>great copper
oh my lol. I'd consider it the skub of Quake, don't know of any Doom equivalent besides like lost soul and cyberdemon health changes.

>>9804517
This whole area and the tree afterwards is my favorite so far from the map pack. Feels like Elder World meets Alice in Wonderland... which I just realized equals American McGee's Alice

>>9804527
The level after is where I quit. After about the 30th time I've been killed by rooms full of spawns I've had enough.

Fuck this faggot mapper

>>9804527
He just retired from vidya development too. This has otherwise been an evil but fun mapset worthy of the Sandyman, it’s a lot classier in aesthetics than I was expecting.

Played through myhouse.wad today, what a fuckin trip. Kinda wanna watch someone else runthrough it blind to see how they do.

Is redneck rampage actually worth playing, or is it a meme? Looks like a huge pile of shit

>>9804265
Ghouls vs Humans is just Bagel Horde now. And swap Dump Maze with Complex Invasion.

>>9804551
I quit the one afterwards due to the discouraging enemy count and the increasing BS encounters

>>9804553
My first initial blind playthrough had me strikeout with the House of Leaves maze, missing nearly everything else. Big oopsie.
>>9804567
Try the first level, see how you like it. That will determine how you feel about the rest because you’ll then know the kind of level design to expect.
Also, consider a port that colors the keys.

>>9804551
Let me guess, the new Spiritworld mapset?
I swear that group are going out of their way to make the most bullshit and annoying levels possible lately. It doesn't help that they seem to be held at gunpoint by a certain modder.

>>9804576
I like how participants in group projects like this rate their own stuff on Slipgate Sightseer as well to inflate the scoring.

>>9803649
CE's shotgun is great tho.
CE in general is a great game. After that it kinda dropped, even though it stayed enjoyable for a while.

>>9804586
Yeah, I've never liked that site or the newbies who created it after causing all that drama.
They seem to see themselves as the cream of the crop when it comes to mapping but they're anything but. They know how to make pretty levels but for the most part cannot make them fun or fair.
Alkaline was an exception and that's mostly because it was partially made before that particular group muscled in. They could really do with using mods other than THAT one too. I honestly don't mind Copper all that much but it's being pushed so much on almost every project and even some of Quaddicted's regular commenters are starting to question it.

>>9804592
It's the one game in the series I can honestly say I sort of liked.
>Cool Banks Orbital setting (it's cute so many people think Halo invented those)
>Interesting story
>Level design sucks ass but at least it feels big and alien
Shame about the rest of the series, I think it would have been better as a one-off. The plot lost all mystery and interest when things started getting explained more and sillier things kept getting pulled out of Bungies ass.

GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! What the fuck have you been working on? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

>>9804617
Posted it in the last thread. I made a lot of progress building a monster pack. I think I'm almost done now.

>realm667 makes a new layout
>still can't link directly to submissions
>all of the hyperlinks are now hidden under a drop-down menu
Why bother? What does any of this add? Another column on each page?

>>9804613
I think 2 still had its moments, regardless of if it was a bit more of a blockbuster departure from the more (what is now considered) old school style of the original game.
A re-make/port of CE with gameplay more fitted like 2 would be really cool in my opinion, but this is coming from someone who's a fan of most of the series.

>>9804617
And also an evil marine moonlighting as an arch-vile. I'll need two more bosses, and when I stop feeling sick, I will use this pack in a community project. Or I just dump it for anyone to pick parts of it up.

>>9804269
Not really hot, considering the recent hate-boner on here for this mod.
Brutal Quake is actually what this anon >>9804357 said. It even breaks some vanilla custom maps, just like your favorite gore mod for Doom!

>>9804628
>I'll need two more bosses
Make something that spawns Trites.

>>9804624
>check out the site now
I hate modern web-design so much it's unreal.

>>9804634
MBF21 doesn't really play nice with spawning thing, from what I gather from the specs.

>>9804638
Does it not? What's the issue with it?

>>9804640
As far as I can see there's no collision detection, nothing to prevent them from getting stuck in something or in geometry.
Unless I can make them non-blocking. Not sure how that would work out.

>>9804627
The bungie era of games was neat. But CE was always the best game among the Halo series.
Infinite was fine for a playthrough, but I never had the itch to replay it. Meanwhile i gave CE like 20 playthroughs.

>>9804645
I remember someone prototyping a monster that shot barrel mines last year, and that seemed to work okay.

>>9804651
Barrel mines?

>>9804652
Barrels were used as a placeholder, but the monster was meant to lay down proximity mines that would explode if the player got too close.

>>9804650
You do make a good point I guess, I didn't replay much of the other games even after running through them all the one I always return to is CE, even if I'm not finishing playthroughs.
Though I'm personally a bit middle of the road on the Bungie stuff over-all, 3 had some sour moments and Reach stinks of catering to gritty aesthetics that were the style at the time.

>>9804654
This sounds doable. Proximity mines don't need collision. Monsters probably do.

>>9804576
Yep. Spawns EVERYWHERE. Rooms where there's 15 ogres and 5 vores on the ceiling. Wall traps that fire 5 vore balls. Shambles with no cover.

>Enter map
>Enemy count: 650
>Close map

>>9804629
>considering the recent hate-boner on here for this mod.
I think people would hate it less if it wasn't used for seemingly every single new release.
I know some people also hate AD, but I wouldn't mind seeing more maps made with that to balance things out. All I know of recently are The Warden (Really fucking good), and the most recent Xmas Jam (by the same guys who have basically taken over the mapping scene for better or worse)

>>9804673
Lovely.
I can't wait to see everyone on Quaddicted gushing over what a "masterpiece" that is.

>>9804663
The one thing I really like about Reach was the Needlerifle. I like the concept of rewarding a player after he hits multible shots instead of autohoming the needles like the regular needler.

>>9804673
>ceiling vores
I feel like I’ve seen it before in a mappack. I hope I see them more often, it’s very fitting.

>>9804680
Bungie was always pretty cool when it came to unique weapon design IMO, which is why it hurt so bad when new games just had weapons that did the same things or removed content from previous games for no reasonable benefit.

>>9804680
The problem with that gun is that it only supercombined against something with no shield, and it's already a gun that instakilled with a headshot against unshielded targets.

>>9804673
>>9804676
I need Sock back in my life so much Quakebros. Anyone know what he's up to these days?

>>9804673
>>Enemy count: 650
I actually like that for giant maps, but then those need to be well made so that excludes the current batch of mappers who think they're reinventing the wheel.
I swear, all those idiots need to do is plaster their shit political takes all over the maps and it'll be complete.

>>9804687
Hilariously enough he seems to be lurking on Slipseer for all the upvotes he gives out. I wish he went back to making some cool maps for the community and show these kids how it's done, but I think he's taking a backseat these days.

>>9804667
If they're just Trites, maybe not. Those are just little spider guys that could just run around under your legs.

>>9804687
He'll have three (3) maps in the upcoming (next month) Explore Jam 3. No combat though

>>9804701
>Explore Jam
This is an interesting concept. A non-combat mod might be worth checking out, since I love Quake architecture.

>>9804701
>explore jam
What a waste.
>>9804707
There are already other explore jams out, and Sock took part in one of them.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/explorejam1.html
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/explorejam2.html
The issue with explore jams is that they tend to focus on platforming and jumping puzzles, which aren't very fun in Q1 due to wonky jumping physics. If you wanna do that kind of stuff you might as well make a Q2 or Q3 jumpmap instead.

>>9803980
>this whole time i thought strogg was like "frog"
Unsurprising, that's how it's pronounced all through Q4.

>>9803686
3D models might not be ideal outside of wads made with them in mind, but it's lighting and particle effects are the coolest shit still.

>>9804707
That and I like the weird air-strafing you can more easily pull off in Q1.

>>9804312
>>9804375
>>9804376
it's a rambo 3 quote

>>9804686
True. Anything like it in other games? I heard that this adaca has something similar, but it looks like babies first unity game.

>>9804820
Shambler offices?

>>9804820
The brutalist jam had some real kino in it.

>>9804254
I made myself an impulse to remove all func_movewall entities on the fly. There is an FPS boost, but when I'm getting 500+ FPS uncapped anyway it's hard to say if that's what is causing the issue for other people. WEBM related.
>with the prog changes that (probably) caused it
One anon said he was having problems with the original release version. I'm also not really sure what I would have changed that would cause this. I've ruled out anything calling tracelines at least.
It might just be the newer versions of engines optimizing for higher-end hardware, leaving toasters anons in the dust. I'll do some more testing though.
>I might make a minor update to fix some textures
Neat. In case you missed it, I put up an ent file to fix an issue with the rocket launcher elevator not going down (something to do with Progs Dump 3's new entity state system, I don't remember exactly). If you make any changes beyond textures, you might want to have a look at that.

>>9804410
Mega can be autistic like that sometimes. If you already have a version of the devkit, you can just sort by date and download the new files individually.
>Does cl_nopext 1 fix the jitter in vkQuake?
Nope, didn't notice any difference at all.

>>9804781
I bet this one defo aged like Almond Palk
as in Pilk but made of Pepsi and Malk

>>9804860
It's definetely something being fucky only with vkQ/IW as my toaster handled this map just fine with QsS

>>people who use spawns are assholes
>>people who use damaging floors are assholes
SAVE ME SANDY IM SORRY AAAAA
>>9804860
>>9804979
Thanks for looking into this, I think I'm going to try the QsS solution as well later.

>>9804269
I don't know but the map pack is one of my favorites.

>>9805037
Yeah, I may shit on Copper for numerous reasons, but I have to admit the maps designed to shill it do a damn good job and Underdark Overbright is better than the main campaign.

I liked this map a lot, but I finally understood why Drake is basically abandoned and forgotten now outside of that sexy super shotgun.
Look at this, this is just silly.

>>9805087
How long did it take to beat? It's the highest rated map on Quaddicted that I haven't played but the size is a bit daunting.

>>9805091
Just over an hour for the main map, but I didn't go nuts secret hunting and only found 11/30 of them. I did find the best Quad ever behind a waterfall that gives you three clouds of Scrags to mince with tons of ammon though, I loved that one.
The second level kind of sucked.
It's a boos fight only it can't decide on the boss you're fighting
>Have a unique Shambler!
>NO! Now kill a unique wizard!
>NO! Now kill a unique Baron!
>NO! Now kill a unique four armed demon thing!
>Here are some hellhounds!
>Uhhh... some unique Death Knights I guess?
It just got really stupid and I could have done without that final map. I have no idea which of those enemies was meant to be the arch demon I was supposedly up against because they all seemed to be the guy in charge.

>>9805087
I didn't think it was silly but I'm a Drake fanatic so I'm biased. It feels like an up and sidegrade to the rocket launcher, where one rocket just won't cut it when you need five at a time. I think the only true silly marks against Drake are the penis shaped laser gun and plasma gun, but even then they're just accurate to how the enforcer laser gun looks.

>>9804375
>I'm assuming this was from the 90s
It's a work-in-progress for the current DBP.

>>9805104
Ah that's a shame. I thought it was a fantastic combat set piece to cap off an amazing map. The arch demon was the unique shambler if I recall correctly. On nightmare he is almost always a "fuck you die" moment so that was fun (genuinely).

Can someone give me the QRD on what the difference between original and enhanced mode for Ironwail changes?
As far as I can tell visually it's mostly just colored fog from the Steam version? I mainly ask since I'm unsure whether to point my Quake Injector downloads to the enhanced or original Steam directory for playing user maps. I assume original mode is closer what mappers intend it to look like so should I just use that?

I only ask because I'm out of the loop and want to get back into Arcane Dimensions and other usermaps. I used vanilla Quakespasm before but heard Ironwail is a better fork so I tried it out, it certainly has a lot of options and the mod menu is nice so I'd like to stick with it.

The Steam version wasn't so bad either admittedly but I feel only the baby mode easy multiplayer setup is really the only use case I find it good for at this point (can easily convince friends to play that over jumping through installation hoops). Long ago I used Darkplaces and I shudder at the thought of going back to it, I don't know how I tolerated such an ugly sourceport... then again before even that all I knew for Quake was the DS and Wii homebrew ports. Good times.

>>9805106
What other maps use Drake? I may not have agreed with everything, but that shotgun was fun as fuck and I'd play it over any other mod that wasn't Arcane Dimensions or maybe Alkaline.

>>9805114
I really liked it for the most part, I just think the kitchen sink approach to the boss was almost funny in its execution and way too over the top.

>>9805116
Nyarlathotep
Ter_Shibboleth_Drake_Redux (episode but only insofar as there's no hub. It's a series of 8 disconnected maps)
Arcanum (episode)
Unforgiven (minisode)

There's 5 or 6 more but these are the must plays. Tronyn, author of Something Wicked, has a few one off maps I can't name right now since their names escape me but they're fun romps.There's also E1M5Drake by me, a remix of Gloom Keep

>>9804781
Sorry for off-topic, but it annoys me how this quote and whole situation is misunderstood by people with a surface-level understanding of the conflict. The Mujahideen was the entire anti-Soviet faction in Afghanistan, which was the large majority of the country. The Taliban did not exist at the time. The Taliban was founded later in Pakistan by exiles/refugees from Afghanistan. The Mujahideen assumably did include people who would go on to become Taliban, but it also included key figures of the Taliban's enemy the Northern Alliance and other anti-Taliban factions.

>>9804654
>>9804654
Yeah, from what I recall, you can't give the spawned object the Solid or Obstacle flags (or whatever gives them collision with other objects.)

>>9804269
It doesn't change even nearly enough to be comparable, even if I hate the SNG nerf.

>>9805128
Oh there's also A Roman Wilderness Of Pain and Soul of Evil but they're not labeled Drake so I always forget.

how I hate waves arenas in quake can break space and time just by the sheer force of my clenching anus

>>9804269
Okay, there has to be one guy trolling with this stuff. I never saw any anti-copper posting until like last thread or the one before that, now suddenly apparently everyone and their grandma actually hates it to the bone.

>>9804368
This is actually well put, thank you.

>>9805152
Don't waste your time on joke maps

>>9804617
These still need some clean-up, but I'm pretty proud of what I have so far as a non-artist.

>>9805143
>you can't give the spawned object the Solid or Obstacle flags
You can set flags, but you'd get stuck if you had already collided with the object when it became solid.

>>9804781
It's also an urban legend.

None of the versions of Rambo 3 features that dedication, it's not in the original theatrical reels, it's not in any of the VHS, Betamax, or Laserdisc releases from back in the day, and not in any of the later DVD or Bluray releases, nor any on online streaming services.

It's an edit someone made as a joke at some point, and eventually it got passed off as a real thing. Since it's not in any of the later releases, people assume it was edited out and that you could find it in the earliest VHS copies, but it just isn't true.
It's a funny meme though.

>>9805140
Also a good clarification, thank you.

>>9804368
This anon nailed it harder than the SNG. I'm talking about the impact it had on the community, not necessarily the changes it made. It's like BD in that it's the only way zoomers will play Quake.

I give it a lot of shit but I don't actually hate it that much, I'm just annoyed by how hard its pushed. Underdark Overbright is genuinely good, and it does have some fixes that genuinely improve aspects of the game, like how it handles co-op and spawns.

Overall, though, I wish someone would make a fork of it that patches out the major gameplay changes -- the way it changes enemy behavior, ammo pickups, extra rocket jumping damage -- but keeps the fixes. Give us the best of both worlds. Like another anon said, you can call it "Bronze."

>>9805161
is this for a halo doom crossover mod?

>>9805154
Is it really that hard to understand why someone wouldn't like Copper? It's massively overused, and all the little senseless """balance""" changes overshadow the genuine fixes.

>>9805192
Nah, he's just a skin for SRB2K. I'm planning to allow anyone to use these sprites when I'm done though, so maybe he'll end up in one.

More mods need to implement axing downed zombies like Arcane Dimensions and Honey. And just let people gib downed zombies in general.

So why has the Quake community latched onto Copper so hard anyway? Genuine question, this isn't the only place I've seen showing signs of being tired of it.

>>9805207
It's made by e-celebs within the Quake mapping community so they appease each other by using it.

>>9805213
Yeah, I figured it was a circle jerk thing. That really sucks.

Is there a one guy crusade against Copper or something? I swear it's the same guy from a few threads back.

>>9805207
I've been posting a lot about it lately desu because I remembered a Steam thread I made years ago where I expressed I didn't like it and basically got lectured on how it was an objective improvement, and that annoyed me. I guess I was just looking for some closure.

I won't be shittalking it anymore in these threads, at least for the time being. I've had my fill, and my rage is sated. I just wanted validation for my opinion, I don't wanna sow discourse in a mostly chill community.

>>9805205
Agree, I like how AD made the axe useful.

>>9805205
Disagree. Not being able to damage them is unrealistic but intentional. It increases the challenge by imposing a penalty for failing to gib them - you can get distracted by another enemy and then the zombie gets up and starts attacking behind your back.

>>9805225
>It's one guy
It really isn't. A bunch of us are sick and tired of it being pushed constantly and being told that "nuh uh, it's better" by people who don't understand what a subjective opinion is.
But >>9805228 is right. We've talked about it enough and as annoying as it is the thing will continue to be pushed for the forseeable future. I don't like it but at least there are plenty more mods out there to play.

>>9805239
Well, yeah. I understand the gameplay function of not being able to blow up downed zombies. Forcing you to use your axe on them one at a time seems like a much more balanced solution, since then you have to take them out one at a time if you missed your chance to gib a group.

>>9805254
Copper changed the axe so you can instantly down a zombie with a single swing.
It also means that you can't easily remove zombies from a combat encounter if you are out of granade / rocket ammo.

>>9805225
It started out as a couple anons and it may still be just the same amount, you can't really gauge that too well when everyone's anonymous. It's getting nuts either way, making it annoying to discuss new maps, and worst is it doesn't seem like anything creative is coming from it.

>>9805087
what map are you talking about?

>>9805267
Knocking a zombie on his ass in one blow and then gibbing him with another would be pretty kino.

>>9805273
Something Wicked This Way Comes.
Don't be put off by my criticisms, it's actually very good and well worth playing. If it's your first time playing a Drake map then enjoy the SSG, I can't get enough of it!

Trying to build a DM map for good ol' UT99 after over two decades of playing the game nearly non-stop. No lighting applied yet (ambient light is used for the time being), but the map is going to feature a fuckton of those fancy real-time animated textures UE 1.0 is known for. And no, that's no water - it's liquid nitrogen.

>>9805321
Fuck off back to SA or Ebaumsworld, ya damn goon.

>>9805362
I love UT'99. Good luck with the map, anon. And fuck Epic for throwing the game that made them aside for the shitty zoomer one.

>>9805454
make me :^)

ooOOOooOOOOoooooOOO

>>9805517
This for the most part. Though Epic did have under its belt a couple of games under its dev belt, most notably Jill of the Jungle, Unreal 98 and UT '99 kickstarted them into the bigtime.

No serious business saturday, again. Sorry for skipping out two weeks in a row but we've exhausted all of the maps that I had planned. Now I'm going to have to scrounge through a bunch of maps later and find ones suitable for us hooligans in co-op. This isn't the end of SBS however, I love hosting this for you guys and don't plan on stopping.
Unfortunately, at some point, we're going to have to play through Serious Sam 2. It IS considered retro.

>>9805143
Pretty much yes. As long as they aren't blocking, they won't be a problem. Which means A_Chase-powered grenades are the option.

>>9805585
>Serious Sam 2
Why would you ever subject yourself to that?
>it's retro
You know what else is retro? William Shatner's TekWar. But we don't play that do we!

>>9805603
>Why would you ever subject yourself to that?
Because we have to, plain and simple. It may be literal clown vomit but everyone must endure the pain at some point so these mistakes never get repeated again.
And if we did, I planned on using this renovations mod to help improve the game's visuals.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1239125891

>copper

of all the supposed fixes, it didnt occur to them to make enemies vulnerable to lava/toxic waste?

>>9805642
Is there even a point in the base game where enemies are in lava or would end up in it?

>>9805115
Is there a version of a pic with proper transparent background? Sorry for no proper reply, not familiar with Ironwail.
>>9805205
Personally, I would've tied that to Mjolnir instead of axe since it makes more sense to use a hammer for this.
>>9805517
>>9805565
Fuck Epic and "eh, these games are old" attitude is cringe, but I'll admit it was kind of refreshing to see after getting overdosed with all the nostalgia baiting from the likes of nu-Apogee and such.
At the very least, you can tell that companies and people behind them are genuinely honest when they treat their older games/IPs like shit.

>>9805647
I believe fiends and spawns can end up jumping around hazardous stuff.

>>9804781
i knew

>>9805585
>>9805629
Sam 2 takes like 6 hours to beat even in co-op.

>>9805662
I know

>>9805662
I was unaware

>>9805152
ranger visits rostok

>>9805548

>>9805650
Sorry anon, I do not have it if it exists. But here is a different Ranger png for compensation.
Hope someone could answer my Ironwail question because my autism can't decide which one to go with.

>>9805650

>>9805702
If its a proper png and not a jpeg conversion you should be able to just select the whitespace and remove it.

>>9805603
but we should

Yup. Just me and my robo penis. 'Mirin' that sunset.
Finally broke into Quoth on my journey to play as much top rated Quake as I can. Some of these custom enemies are... interesting.
I also love how yet again the community could never agree on how a plasma rifle should look. This is like the fourth Quake model I've seen for one this month.

>>9805115
I don't understand your question
original vs enhanced as quake enhanced (the official release)?

>>9805778
Never seen that skybox, what map are you playing?

>>9805152
truly the apex of quake mapping

>>9805785

>>9805781
The Hand That Feeds You, but you're not supposed to get a view like that. I rocket jumped for a secret and massively overshot, ending up on top of the map.

>>9805785
>>9805790
Were you playing this dogshit (heh) map since >>9805152? Fucking madman

>>9805797
n-no

>>9805779
When you open up Ironwail it asks for if you want to play original or enhanced, I assume enhanced means it has some of the changes found in the official steam release that makes it look different overall. You can only play the steam episodes through that version by default, but I can install addon maps to either version.
I was wondering if for user maps if I should be sticking to original mode since I assume that's the "default" and intended way to play them as I assume its closer to the og quakespasm version.

>>9805796
>The Hand That Feeds You
That one's fantastic, good pick, enjoy. The other map by this author that's really great is Slave to a Machine. The rest I didn't care for that much.

Can finally tick Bratwurst off my list after this.

>>9805823
Yeah, it was really good.
A couple of the Quoth monsters are assholes, but I enjoyed the map. I guess this mod is where the Droles first came from, stupid upright bullsquid wannabes.

>>9805843
>I guess this mod is where the Droles first came from
Yeah, and to my recollection, Quoth Droles are a good deal meaner than AD Droles, which are nerfed.

>>9803556
Posting all the D64 mods i currently find playable,some update daily

>>GZDoom compatible
>D64 Vanilla
https://tpu540059.itch.io/d64revanilla

>Brutal DOOM 64 (Has custom enemies in the settings)
https://mega.nz/folder/AtsgQL7K#uqIcrVz6KXT5w5dW8DSlww

>D64 corefier (Use randomspawner file for custom enemies)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RgkTiCZn-Z5fZNKKWRa8C6asVszYqZ8X

>D64 textures
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=76856

>D64 music
https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-d64ifier/addons/d64ifier-music-v0-90

>>Total conversion,Needs Doom64 ROM and doom2 wad for the addons
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-ce

>>Standalone engine,needs Doom64 ROM (has custom monsters in the settings menu)
https://github.com/Styd051/DOOM64-Super-EX-Plus/releases

>Extra maps for the above
https://www.moddb.com/members/atsb/downloads

>>9805839
Why? anything wrong with it?

>>9805849
I did wonder why they felt more dangerous.
I've downloaded a few more highly rated Quoth maps to try tomorrow, starting with Plumbers Don't Wear Ties.
I haven't touched it yet, but hoo boy, that's certainly an interesting readme file. I'm used to seeing comedy backstories for maps, but this was a batshit insane porno involving snuff. I guess it's a reference to the map being named after a porn game but I still didn't expect that.

>>9805895
No it's fine, just getting through as many wads/mods as I can at the moment.

>>9805892
Based D64 poster, which one is closer to the original? The first one?

>>9805907
Don't let that readme traumatize you, Plumbers is genuinely a top 10 map, it's insanely good and I'm sad that no map like it has come out since

>>9805914
Why is there Harry Potter Hitler flying around in the background?

>>9805920
Vanilla>Corefier>Brutal in terms of vanilla fidelity

Or you could just NOT use the randomspawner file of corefier to have purely vanilla things

>>9805362
Good luck anon! New UT99 content is always appreciated.

>>9805937
pain changes people

>>9805946
Nice, I'll try it out

>>9805986
>pic
I know it's an old meme that someone probably just thought was funny, but a Duke Nukem mod for Deus Ex, or a Deus Ex mod for Duke Nukem would be top-tier.

>>9805808
enhanced uses the new models

nope

>>9806012
You can just fall down and cheese this fight from below

>>9806012

>>9805937
>Yer a Fuhrer, Harry.

>>9806015

fucking hell

it's over

>>9806045
Slaughtermaps aren't my thing but I remember that one being alright.

>>9806045
>missing one kill
Yikes

>>9806037
Kek, all I can think of is that French castle from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
What map?

>>9806052

>>9805996
I feel like you could mix and match parts of most of these shooters and they'd still be cool or fun. Like a Turok Doom, or a Duke Quake'em, etc.

>>9806065
>Duke Quake'em
This would probably be both the easiest (given the modding tools for Quake, and advanced ports like FTE) and the most appropriate (with them directly competing).

Is it bad design to have non-boss levels end when a boss monster is killed?

>>9806075
No but it's 11/10 design to have one final cathartic sequence after the final boss monster is dead

>>9806075
yes

>>9806056
rampage from brutalist jam

Egypt is epic and all but when are we gonna get some Quake maps in Babylon / ancient Mesopotamia

>>9806280
When people other than 2002 Croteam start giving a shit about it.
At least you can filch the textures from Second encounter.

>>9804998
oh I see someone besides me has embraced scr_ofsy, very good :)

>>9806334
Yeah it's very fun

Finally got around to beating quake 2, very fun, suprised it isn't talked about more than it is

>>9804254
>>9804860
Following previous advice, using QSS has made the level infinitely more playable. Sorry it was so simple, just sort of weird my other preferred ports don't like it. Worth it because it's one of my favorite levels ever.
>>9806436
Oh man, the new Unitest is great. Check it out, test it out >>9793179

Someone remade wolf3d in build, its called silver wolf.

>>9806449
mods like this will never feel as good as playing the original

So I miss Demonsteele a bunch, one of my favorite wads. I have made a bunch of edits to my version of it, to the point where I wonder if it's worth getting into wad making just to make a version of it.
Are we sure that it's dead? like dead-dead?

>>9806482
What all did you change?

>>9806482
Oh it's 100% dead-dead, anon. Terminated. TE13 is done with Doom. It's not getting an update.

>>9806449
thanks, pretty fun

>>9806490
QOL stuff. Larger sword hitbox, faster energy regen, added the weapons to more maps and did some merging with a couple weapon packs I liked (QStyle is one of them), changed the way health tokens worked where you regen on-hit, stuff like that.
>Casualized
A little, but it let me take on the TOUGH maps that you normally wouldn't be able to take on. Holy Hell is a blast when it's just carving through >500 imps at once with the sword.
>>9806491
That is the worst news I've heard today. Did something happen? Just moved on?

>>9806503
See the requiem for yourself.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YAbYBYdH6S4

>>9806503
Might as well make a spinoff thing. Just remember that every Term mod that continues without Term seems to languish.
Or you could do a big dick move and take what you've made/edited so far and make your own mod.

>>9806507
I had no idea that he even had a youtube channel.
>>9806513
>Might as well make a spinoff thing. Just remember that every Term mod that continues without Term seems to languish.
There's more than ONE?
>Or you could do a big dick move and take what you've made/edited so far and make your own mod.
Wouldn't this be considered stealing? Or does he just not give a shit at this point?

What happened to the torrent? I don't feel like compiling chromium or whatever to get mega upload to tolerate the size of all the files.

>>9806515
Samsara was continued on without Term in the form of Samsara reincarnation, and it's a bit of a shitshow.

>Wouldn't this be considered stealing?
Not if you change enough shit about it and have a different playable character, maybe some different themes/aesthetics. That's what I mean by doing your own thing.

>>9806515
>There's more than ONE?
More than one TE13 mod? Absolutely.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/TerminusEst13
More than one continuation of a TE13 mod? There exists Extra Heroes and Reincarnation, both being for Samsara, and I'm pretty sure there's at least one continuation of the Metroid mod. I'm gonna echo what that other anon said and try and make your own mod inspired by Demonsteele.
>Wouldn't this be considered stealing?
The Doom community is very laissez-faire with reuse of assets, and Term was no exception to this. He reused assets for his own mods and the existence of continuations of his own stuff shows very clearly that he doesn't really mind. Just give credit where it's due, that's common courtesy.

>>9806520
I guess that's fair, but most of what I've made/edited is on the back of Demonsteele, it's just editing the values already present in the code he (presumably) wrote
>>9806526
I'll keep that in mind. Though I'm not much of an artist, mostly just do ACS if anything.

>>9806526
Oh, I also forgot to mention that GMOTA was also made by Term and he made a special exception to keep updating it until it's finished. ;-)

>>9806534
Now is a time as any to get deeper into Doom modding and make something you can truly call your own.

>>9806536
Listen here you little shit.

>>9806534
>Though I'm not much of an artist,
This is where the community's liberal use of assets will save your ass, because there's a wealth of art and assets that you're free to use either as a base, or just ape entirely, though I will add that the more transformative you can be, the better. Check https://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/ for a whole stock of open assets at your disposal. Good luck, anonymous.
>>9806538
Yholl

>>9806545
>gravel
>gravel
>rattle
>rattle
>sand
>kar
>sciencultist
I wonder what we're gonna play tomorow

>>9806550

>>9806552
Oh yeah. I forgot he posted that.
Maybe tomorrow will finally be the night we beat that boss in Doomware.

>>9806545
>>9806538
Thank you both, I appreciate the encouragement.

>>9806526
Metroid: Demon Hunter is actually pretty decent. Aside from a few gripes. It's pretty much Dreadnought but more.

>>9806503
(You) me if you upload it in this thread.

>>9806421
>>9806334
-1.5 or -2?

>>9806583
Sure, but it's like a 60 MB wad last I checked.

>>9806582
The HUD and crosshairs are awful to the point of distraction. I don't like that the fixed item replacements were all turned into random spawnpools, either.

>>9806601
This isn't the 90s we all have terabyte harddrives.

>>9806605
I don't.

>>9806607
Wakarimasen lol

>>9806591
-2 I also offset the z value to -2 but I guess it comes down to personal taste, I didnt know it accpted decimal values.

>>9806618
For sure, ty. It's annoying that this mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/quake/mods/5
Doesn't have the grenade come out of the grenade launcher, but manually offsetting the scr y value will.

>>9806604
Yeah, that's one of the things I mean. The mod author is working on making the item spawns sequential so you don't get them out of order, I think the experimental branch already has some of that, and he's considering tweaking the HUD.

There is the normal Metroid Prime crosshair in the GZDoom HUD menu and you can force that.

>>9804623
Looks great man, and feel better soon.

>>9805161
Looks very nice anon.

>>9806621
>Doesn't have the grenade come out of the grenade launcher, but manually offsetting the scr y value will.
Because you aren't moving your weapon model. You're moving your whole camera.
You might as well be looking over your own shoulder.

>>9806676
Yeah and it's based

>enjoying a megawad with 200-300 enemies per map
>suddenly one with 1400 that takes an hour to beat
There always has to be one

>>9806334
Wait, offset guns aren't a mod? It's a setting/console command?

>>9806436
Quake 2 is a lot better than people seem to remember, I'm glad the anniversary a few months back convinced me to play it again.

>>9806507
Damn. Demonsteele confirmed for never being completed. This has made my day just a tiny bit worse, but I understand what Term is saying. We all move on eventually, and it's better to leave on a good note than a bad one.
I'll miss him though, his mods really were the most fun Doom content I've played.

>>9805702
>>9805703
Thanks you very much, lads.

>>9806678
this will fuck up your jumps eventually

>Enjoying a level immensely
>Get to some cool battle on top of the tower at the halfway point
>Level ends
>The kill count is just there so you can't tell how far you are in the map and auto counts up to 100% on completion
Well that's annoying. Fucking great map though, Moldy Tower is one of the most atmospheric non-Arcane Dimensions levels I've played and I guess leaving me wanting more is much better than finding something to be a complete slog, right?

>>9805950
Me in the camo jacket

why do I play these things
Also found two mapping errors, somebody tell someone:
>The room North of the central room (has the yellow door) softlocked me since there's multiple linedefs to close the door and only one non-repeatable switch to open it.
>The elevators taking you out of the moat in the central area also have multiple linedefs disabling them and only one non-repeatable linedef enabling them so they'll probably end up disabled. Though you can still get out the long way around.

>>9806968
The lighting on this screenshot looks off. Mouldy Tower should not be that dark

>>9807135
It's weird, in game it didn't look that dark either.

>>9803556
>Quake Stuff for Doom 2 exist for many years
>Nobody made wad utilizing it
Come on, /vr/ I know you can do it. You still need to turn .pk3 which just replace items to proper independent resource pack but still.

>>9805225
Not really 2BH, I only hate it for axing the Enforcers ammo drop and pretty much like everything else it done to the rest of game - although the 50HP nightmare difficulty should probably have been toggle-able via the console by a "Skill 4" command or something

>>9805932
Yeah, Plumbers wasn't bad. I didn't like the boss fight and got lost a lot, but otherwise that was a cool level. It reminded me heavily of Half Life's Apprehension chapter.

>>9807303
Dimension of the Boomed

>>9807304
>have enforcers drop ammo you can only use for the strongest weapon
>only have them appear near the start of each episode - in only 3 episodes
Kind of weird but then again, it was a lame decision keeping these and other guys glued near the start of each episode anyways. Feels like its either weird Romero/other design choices or some late development oversight.

>>9807312
I love the Quake symbol so much.
Still weird how most of the ads for it involved the same people photoshopped in over and over. Then again all the ads for Quake were weird as fuck anyway, but that's fitting for a Lovecraftian themed game.

>>9807304
50HP Nightmare just makes Spawns that much more frustrating, because they'll instakill you from full if you don't have yellow armor.

What is the best Blood source port for coop or multiplayer in general? Do any of them fix the issue where weapon stay in coop applies to all TNT items, so you can't really get any TNT ammo after the first pick up?

>>9807321
NBlood doesn't have this issue, not sure about GDX/FS.

>>9807316
just don't be trigger happy

>>9807334
It's kind of hard when they are constantly flying at you and moving in erratic ways.

>>9805152
>so many Rotties
You
Just
_HUH_

>>9807334
>>9807335
Yea be cool and dance with them if you gotta. Unlike others they're not prone to attacking you asap.

WAD sauce?

>>9804680
I was a little disappointed in that HaloDoom mod for not having the needle rifle, it really deserves more love. Same for the Boltshot and Suppressor.

>>9805115
With "enhanced" you're getting the remastered assets: the original id1 maps will have fog, transparent water and some other small changes (and a big change in E2M6 which gets a new starting area). Some sounds have also their sample rate changed, for better or worse. Personally I don't think the changes suit the original levels very much, especially the fog.
>>9806004
IW doesn't support the MD5 models. I don't think the MDL ones have changed.

>>9805205
why the fuck does lying down on the floor make somebody invincible anyway

>>9804860
cl_nopext 1 needs to be set before loading the map, and as far as I can tell it does fix it. Note QSS has the same problem (only if you've increased host_maxfps)
If you're going to fiddle with cl_bob, you can try to read the old value when you pick the shield up, remember it, and restore it afterwards, although it'll still fuck up if you quit or load before. Actually you could set cl_bobcycle to 0 instead, since that's not archived and I don't think anybody would willingly change it, so you can unconditionally set it back to 0.6.

>Subterranean Library
Where the ACTUAL FUCK am I supposed to go? I have two of the runes but every single path just takes me back to completed areas. There's a silver key that I can't reach that the map loves showing off from multiple angles, but no clear way to get it.
I can't believe this map has such good ratings, it's the worst level design I've seen yet.

>>9806925
yeah, well, there's a mod for right handed weapons with new models and all that, problem is, it's made for vanilla and a few popular mods in mind so it can't be compatible with everything so I went with console commands, which yields almost the same result

>>9807528
There has to be some stone doors you can break with your weapons now. Taking the tunes makes them fall apart a bit and you do the rest.

I have finally finished my first Quake map. It's an awful mess of ideas, but it's my awful mess and I love it very much.

>>9807556
well, post it nigga, wanna play me some quack

>>9807556
share it, NOW

Is it better to load mapsets first or last when playing with custom enemy/weapons? or i have to decide on a mod by mod basis?

talking about DOOM here

>>9807559
>>9807570
It's my map, nobody else gets to play it.

>>9807549
I knew about that, but I finally worked out what I was doing wrong. A random small door opened up at one point and then the way forward was obvious.
Still way too much wandering for my liking, but at least I completed it. Thanks anyway.

>>9807591
How many secrets?

>>9807528
Funny, I was just playing that one too.
I also got really lost and found it annoying, but then again I enjoyed the whole "forbidden library" atmosphere.
If anything I find the Quoth monsters to be the worst part of these older maps though. I like the old late 90's/mid 2000s attitude of shoving in new and cool enemy ideas into mods, but a lot of the time the end result is kind of a mess to deal with.

stop spamming anti halo threads, obsessed faggots.
no one really cares about the only 5 fps games you play and circlejerk about.

Hot take:
00's shooters were better than 10's shooters and the indie throwback uninspired fps like dusk or ion fury.

>>9807667

>>9807667
I'm confused. Are you just trying to cause trouble or is there someone making a load of threads that you don't like and you're just assuming we're your boogieman because this thread doesn't really deal with Halo (and that also upsets you)?
Either way, go away and take your drama and spotty grammar with you.

god, what a fuckfest, i`m so tired.
if you`re gonna make me circle strafe through 200k HP, at least make the guy easier to hit or something, even if it is the final boss.

>>9807578
if custom content from maps/mods conflicts, it`ll probably look like shit either way.
still, i generally load mapset first, and pray that i simply will not see it if it does conflict.
then again, it bit me in the ass when i was pairing halodoom: evolved with extermination day, and the planet sprite from the titlemap replaced a bush.
though if the maps only use vanilla content, it does not matter.

>>9807675
>>9807691
Pretty sure it's just a troll. There was a guy trying to cause shit about Halo out of nowhere a few threads back too, it might even be Alf.
Just ignore it.

>>9807580
Share it. Now.

>>9807674
agreed, 00's shooters were better. i liked pic related a lot

>>9807308
It use only textures. I mean, there is literally a .pk3 with monsters, guns and other stuff straight from Quake for Doom, and I didn't saw anyone use it.

I miss the days when I played everything on ITYTD and blazed through all wads.
Now I do UV because I'm a cocky little shit and I don't have as much fun but if I try easier difficulty I don't have fun either because there's no challenge.
Youtube ruined Doom for me. I can't get the Doom high anymore.

>>9807791
i replaced it with that dumb aeod mod and literally never played the original for over 5 years. fuck that thantos guy for breaking my autistic mind with his ripfest faggotry.

>>9805849
>>9805843
Speaking of Droles, can the VRanon attach the Lava(S)NG smoke-trail particle effect to their projectiles (which are way too puny looking for the damage they do coupled with that deceptively large AoE the have)?

really liking this place

>>9805808
>>9807476
oh, I got confused with vkquake also because it doesn't say enhanced, it says remastered
it just asks you if you want to use the original pak or the pak of the quake enhanced release
I believe the quake enhanced pak could break some old mods perhaps? (and e2m6 is different)

>>9807695
>so much shit on screen
i legit cannot play with so many distractions

>>9807556
let's laugh at this anon map
lol
lmao even

The more Quake I play the more I love Arcane Dimensions. I'm trying a few of the standalone maps now and I like them so much more than maps that use other mods. Not that the other mods are bad, they're all good in their own right.

>>9807380
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/134825-brotherhood-of-ruin-2023-supercharged-edition/

>>9807674
>00's shooters
I really liked this one as a younger lad, but I don't remember much about it other than the mission where you start on a helicopter circling a building.

>>9807867
>Brotherhood of Ruin got remade/remastered for current year
What is happening?

>>9807909
new ideas are dead

>>9807910
I just thought it was funny
>Modern gaming is a joke because it's all remasters and remakes
>Oh, lets see some new Doom wads
>It's a fucking remaster of an old one
You can't even escape it here, and that's hilarious.

>>9807921
I was memeing, I don't mind old wads having a revamp

>>9807925
Different anon, but I'll add it's not even an issue with Doom because there's still new shit being churned out faster than most people can play it.

>>9807929
and is not like the original wad disappeared or something

>>9807857
For almost endless Quake play id1 based custom maps with the AD randomizer mode (chaos mode).

>>9807493
Oh, yeah it does work. I'll probably just put cl_nopext 1 in the quake.rc file and leave a suggestion in the readme about disabling headbob for even smoother shields. Thanks.

>>9807812
I probably won't use that effect, but now that I've figured out a good way to make particle trails with temporary entities (see: charged laser shot) I'll see about using that to make something more appropriately green for the Drole projectile.

are there any good doom tumblr blogs that fill the niche left by imx doomer or inmost dens?

>Fuck you barrel
This was actually a test to see if an object blocks itself from being resurrected. Turns out it doesn't. But I think it produced a funny visual.

>>9807303
QDoom is pretty good.

>>9808104
i have never seen this before. didn't even stop to think the arch vile even doing this. neat

>>9808141
If I understand correctly, there's three conditions the arch-vile checks when it comes across the corpse
>Corpse has Raise state
>Current frame has infinite duration (Animation stopped)
>There's free space for the monster to become solid again

I was testing the possibility to create petrified monsters that can be thawed by an arch-vile.

>>9805087
>>9805106
>I think the only true silly marks against Drake are the penis shaped laser gun and plasma gun, but even then they're just accurate to how the enforcer laser gun looks.
I really hope that a hypothetical update of the DrakeMod would finally make those guns not be just a barrel-end colourswap of eachother
(just steal the YPoD PlasmaRifle models if you need to be quick & dirty with it)
>>9805149
ARWoP & SoE(2) are deriative of Drake but not compatible with it - probably because of the custom coding for the random decapitation-instakill ability of the Axe implemmented in them
>>9808006
Sounds great but that kind of green is it gonna be, puke-ish dark or nuclear-tier bright?

>>9807785
Yell at author to finish Realm of Zmagic.

>>9806604
Did they added a proper skin model for samus?
The SM Sprites are pretty much compatible with doom

>>9807853

>>9808180
>just steal the YPoD PlasmaRifle models if you need to be quick & dirty with it)
Ypod?

Just got around to finally beat the whole demo of the "25 years of Q2" mod now that Passover has ended - no sign of Quad-Medics anywhere, are they still WIP?

>>9808214
Your Path of Destruction - the Doom TC for Quake1

>I have no idea how to enter this secret and already tried everything - even destroying the lethally-explosive crystals on the ceiling
also there's a BFG-Gladiator that refuses to spawn due to carrying an invalid item

BTW this door kills everything in its path

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW TIME! Tonight we're starting off with some DBP53: Plutonian Sunrise! (Did I say 52? It's 53 now.) Being somewhat Plutonia related, we'll also be playing with the same monster pack we always do for sets like these. After that, we'll play more Doomware! Let's see if we can beat the boss this time.
The password is "CadburyCuntCreme"
We'll be using Zandronum 3.1 as usual.
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666

And as always I got a rush of ideas at the last minute - why not make the Tank monsters also ungibbable like the Gladiators are currently?
And another thing to consider if there's any planned encounters with TankCommanders as a bossfight of sorts - please repurpose the BetaClass IronMaiden's (Chick_heat) homing rocket projectiles to be used by TC's to make them really stand-out from their subordinates

>>9808240
Where do I get vrskins? I can't download it.

>>9808250
Refresh the server and try running the auto-downloader again.

The constant surplus of Cells ammo you cannot really utilize (unless you'd start with Human Detainment) kinda makes me wish for the hub area to give you a HyperBlaster instead of the ChainGun - same problem with hiding the RL in the "secret level"

>>9803557
It is finally here, collected for you...
The Quake 2 25th Anniversary Collaborative UNIT!
Get it while it is still fresh (and PLEASE CHECK THE README.TXT):
https://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/Quake225ACU.zip

And here is the only sequence I used one of the 3 QD's that were laying around the previous levels - I'll blame being forced to play on Easy to never finding a place worhty of using one besides this bit (actually it was the prevous room where you got swarmed by Berzerkers)

>>9808264
I hate being so slow

>>9808180
>Sounds great but that kind of green is it gonna be, puke-ish dark or nuclear-tier bright?
idk, maybe a mix of both

>>9808225
They sadly got cancelled...
We had to feature-freeze so we could release it.

>>9808228
That's the point, so stay away when it operates.

>>9806442
It is also now completed here: >>9808264

>>9808241
Ungibbable BFGladiators was a bug that has now been fixed.

>>9808258
Well, that could have been considered...
Just start with Gaelanite Geofront if you feel the need for it.

>>9808276
>>9808273
You should upgrade to the full release.

>>9808264
Added to rentry wads page with catbox mirror

>>9808240
First half of tonight was short and sweet

>>9808240
And now we're playing Doomware. Come on in.

>if OP even dares to breathe on the keyboard the wrong way, wildweasel pulls up to the thread and menacingly shakes his finger
>succubus doom is just sitting there like it's nothing
am i just being stuck up? what the fuck is up with zdoom forums?

>>9808240
The emote mod we're playing with allows for custom emotes, so I'll be allowing submissions for a /vr/ emotes pack. Just post a 120x120 image you want to use and accompany it with a sound file to make a submission.

Is there a dehacked or dehextra mod that emulates Heretic in Doom? If not, how difficult would a project like that be? Would like to see if I can approximate Heretic in raytraced prboom+ for fun.

Kill Brutes. Behead a Brute with an Energy Sword. Run a Brute over with a ghost. Slam dunk a Brute baby into the trash can. Fry a Brute with a Plasma Rifle. Defecate into Brutes' food. Launch Brutes into Slipspace. Stir-fry Brutes in a wok. Toss Brutes into a plasma reactor. Spawn Kill Brutes. Judo throw Brutes into a MAC round. Twist Brutes' heads off. Report Brutes to the UNSC. Jiralhanae chop Brutes in half. Curb stomp pregnant Brutes. Trap Brutes in High Charity. Crush Brutes with an Elephant. Liquefy Brutes in a vat of acid. Eat Brutes. Throw Brutes into a Black Hole. Blast Brutes with a Spartan Laser. Exterminate Brutes with a Local Halo Pulse. Stomp Brute skulls with Nanolaminate boots. Betray Brutes with a missile pod. Glass Brutes. Mandatory abortions for Brutes. Grind Brute fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown Brutes in fried moa grease. Vaporize Brutes with a Plasma Grenade. Kick old Brutes down the stairs. Feed Brutes to Hunters. Make Brutes play Halo 5. Annihilate Brutes with a Scarab Beam.

>>9808240
Server killed, thanks for joining. Consult >>9806552 for our next few sessions.

>>9807580
what a fag, I only lurk here to play stuff you faggots make.

>>9808337
How'd you get the chat centered like that? And at a readable size.

>>9808504
options > HUD options > message options.
In there you can enable center messages, and at the top there's a text scaling thing, fiddle with that until you get something comfortable

Playing through A Roman Wilderness Of Pain on nightmare, I'm pretty sure the last battle is impossible on this difficulty, and I'm pretty fucking good at video games. Will report back.