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When did it get topped?

>> No.9570183 [DELETED] 
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9570183

idk but i want to top link

>> No.9570184

>>9570181
Can't think of another game that was so ahead of it's time, had such a wild mixture of gameplay and all of it near perfect basically

>> No.9570186
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9570186

>>9570181
Just like your mom it was topped before you were born.

>> No.9570187

>>9570181
>did
*will
And never because games are co-directed by shareholders now.

>> No.9570190

>>9570186
That's just the SNES port

>> No.9570193

>>9570181
You have to challenge Luigi to a race and win somehow

>> No.9570235

>>9570184
>and all of it near perfect basically

>> No.9570246

>>9570181
It was topped before it even came out

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>>9570181
link is bitchmade

>> No.9570353

>>9570246
By what? Hard mode: you can't name games you've never played so no Goemon's Adventure

>> No.9570357

The game immediately after

>> No.9570368 [DELETED] 

In 2 months

>> No.9570374 [DELETED] 

>>9570346
When did he get topped?

>> No.9570378 [DELETED] 

>>9570235
Yes? It's hard to come up with any flaws that aren't clearly subjective, which is insane for how many things this game did at its time

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>>9570183
>>9570346
Wrong Aryan protag

>> No.9570390

>>9570378
>It's hard to come up with any flaws that aren't clearly subjective,
opinions do be like that

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>>9570382
that's gachi muchi, link has always been fag coded

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9570397

>>9570382
Why did they make them so gay?

>> No.9570437 [DELETED] 

>>9570183
>>9570346
>>9570394
Why are shitdicks like this?

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>>9570437
Link isn't gay in the game (unlike picrel) so they have to draw him this way and make it up. Just let them

>> No.9570463

Started playing this a couple weeks ago for the first time. Played 1, 2, LttP as a kid. Playing on a Wii. Currently stuck on the Forest Temple.
graphics: meh
music: meh
controls: kinda weird but you get used to it (thankfully not using N64 controller, always hated that thing)
story: typical random-kid-has-to-save-world
puzzles: they are definitely getting harder
overall: it's alright so far
Getting sick of hearing "Hey!" and "Listen!" all the time.
Why did they add "dorf" to the bad guy's name?
Now that I'm a teenager, do I get to see teenage Zelda at some point? Do we get to bone? Hope she's not as hideous as the fairies. Just trying to stay motivated.

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>>9570463
>graphics: meh
>literally objectively amazing production value
Imagine typing so much for a common fanboy shitpost that won't be taken seriously

>> No.9570485

>>9570469
I wish Death Mountain would stay looking all ominous after you finish the Kakariko quest, looks just like Fuji otherwise

>> No.9570487

>>9570235
yes

>> No.9570493 [DELETED] 

BotW 2 could pull it off but probably will be too derivative of 1 and too outdated for today

>> No.9570494

>>9570463
>music: meh
What the fuck? Are you being serious?

>> No.9570507 [DELETED] 

>>9570493
I loved BoTW but I just want another OoT-style Zelda even if it's like Skyward Sword. It's like how they gave us Mario Odyssey, good game but I want something more linear like Galaxy or 3D World next. Again, BoTW is awesome but if Zelda is JUST BoTW now with no 2D games or OoT-style 3D games inbetween then fuck this man

>> No.9570879

>>9570463
Tried playing 2 years ago for the first time, this was my general impression. Guess ya had to be there.

>> No.9570882

What's with all the OoT spam as of late? Is it the same guy making anti-PS1 threads?

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>>9570397
Mario looks so goddamn peak when Nomura draws them consistently.

>> No.9571476 [DELETED] 

>>9570507
Nintendo is never going to let Zelda sell less than Metroid and DK ever again

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>>9571462
I literally have never seen that art, nice

>> No.9571514

>>9570181
Here's my hot take: the game was really never THAT good. It was the first god of war ragnarok except in 1999... you get the idea. It was built to be impressive. I mean games like everquest we're already way more fun and addictive than this game, banjo kazooie imo was overall more fun, in general there were a lot of games already more fun.

But it's a good single player story experience and I think majora's mask is the same way. It's a good visual adventure but not necessarily "fun".

>> No.9571529 [DELETED] 

>>9570507
I just want some actual dungeons this time not shrine shit

>> No.9571818 [DELETED] 

>>9571529
I preferred the bite size shrines and less dungeons. I'm a dummy and can't figure out all those stupid moving puzzles the Divine Beasts had easily.

>> No.9571840

>>9570181
When Link was gone for 7 years. Ingo is a lonely man

>> No.9571852

>>9570469
that shield is so much better than the crescent one

>> No.9571859

>>9570181
Twilight Princess is the best

Best visuals
Best aesthetics
Best atmosphere
Best artsyle
Best fighting
Best enemies
Best gameplay
Best world
Best tutorial
Best city
Best fishing
And
Best girls yes, plural

>> No.9571898

>>9570181
The next year

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>>9570186
What do you even say in response to this? This would be like if your dad walked up to you and said "I fucked your mom".

>> No.9572035

>>9572028
>y-you too.

>> No.9572048

>>9571898
There was a 2 year gap between oot and mm. Your zoom is showing.

>> No.9572054

>>9570181
I heard on 4chan that this was actually overrated and shit.

>> No.9572057

>>9570463
nice blog post
now go help your mother with the dishes, kid

>> No.9572063

>>9572054
You heard right.

>> No.9572097

>>9570463
retard

>> No.9572104

>>9571514
what a shit take

>> No.9572106

>>9572054
You heard wrong

>> No.9572362

>>9570469
Still too soon for you to hear the truth Anon?

>> No.9572363

>>9570181
Never desu

>> No.9572378
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>>9570181
a year before it was released
>>9572054
damn right. boring and slow with an empty overworld and braindead combat

>> No.9572395

>>9570186
>The worst game in the series is better
Kek. Lmao even

>> No.9572436

>>9571852
Bait

>> No.9572441

>>9572378
MML is the OOT of the PlayStation. They're both the best games on their respective systems

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>>9571859
>best girls
Puh-lease.

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>>9572028
My dad said this to me once. Sometimes I wonder if he was telling the truth.

>> No.9572536

>>9571859
>Twilight Princess is the best

Muddy visuals
Brown-and-bloom aesthetics
Uninspired atmosphere
Just decent artstyle
Worse fighting than shitty Wind Waker's
Mediocre enemies
Wolf tedium and bad physics gameplay
Tutorial
Okay city
Decent fishing
And bitchface Zelda and annoying dwarf fetishism uncursed Midna is kinda hot, though

Find some taste, little kid.

>> No.9572574

>>9572436
nah, taste

>> No.9572839

>>9572378
I can't even fathom how stupid you have to be to think this is a better game than OoT

>> No.9572843

>>9572839
You just have to have owned a Playstation but no N64

>> No.9572884

>>9571859
They're all the best just in different ways. TP indeed has better and snappier gameplay than OoT today and a bit more variety. Comes down to taste which presentation, characters, atmosphere and OST you like more
Ocarina definitely has the much better pacing, though. TP has an extremely strong peak from the water temple to the snow temple but then kinda frizzles out while OoT doesn't necessarily reach TP's peak but stays consistently strong until it's all over

See
>>9572881
>>9572881
>>9572881

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>>9572378
uploaded the wrong pic, sorry

>> No.9572965

>>9570181
By what, Darksiders? No I guess it didn't.

>> No.9573006

>>9572884
For me TP felt like a OOT 'remake' if that makes sense, but only because I played OOT first.

Objectively TP is probably the better game, but just too similar to OOT

>> No.9573013

>>9572441
There has to be a better action-adventure on PSX right? MML is not that great to begin with.

>> No.9573049

>>9573013
MML2 is the game that should be pitched against OoT, not MML1. It's way better

>> No.9573131

>>9570463
>music: meh
I don't even like the game but what the fuck is wrong with you
>>9570469
is that supposed to look good?

>> No.9573147

>>9570397
They didn't, you are posting "fan"arts or I assume Nomura's awfully gay character design

OoT Link also doesn't crossdress like Cloud

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>>9573131
>but what the fuck is wrong with you
Probably the same thing that is wrong with you when you claim OoT doesn't look good for its size, generation and openness: Nintendo derangement syndrome

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>>9573152
Meanwhile PS1 games by one of the most hyped developer ever

>> No.9573157

>>9573006
>Objectively TP is probably the better game
No, just more up to date

>> No.9573161

>>9573152
>soulful crescent is back on the menu

>> No.9573178

>>9572536
>Muddy visuals
Wrong except things that should look muddy
>Brown-and-bloom aesthetics
So like every game of that era except it's one of the few where it's used suitably for a dimension that's supposed to feel woozy
>Worse fighting than shitty Wind Waker's
Just plain wrong so no idea why you would say this unless you're a tard
>Mediocre enemies
Compared to what? Maximo? Shadow of the Colossus that doesn't have any?
>Wolf tedium
You are literally faster as the wolf. Retard complaint pushed by retards
>and bad physics gameplay
Literally where?
>Tutorial
Actually barely compared to other games. Nintendo doesn't get credit for it, but they rarely put annoying tutorials in their biggest games. Example: Sly still has the turtle explaining you that you can walk on ropes two hours in. Mario Sunshine never even says a word about it. When you get an item in TP, there is a tiny window you can immediately skip. They use tutorials for essential things that are distinct from other games
>Find some taste, little kid.
Says the person hating on a 94% game with made up arguments

>> No.9573180

>>9573178
>94% game
Sorry 96% game and 90% user score

>> No.9573181

>>9573152
>for its size
that's irrelevant, OoT doesn't look good. It's understandable why it doesn't look good considering its size, but we're solely talking about the visuals here. It doesn't look bad either, but it's not anything impressive. This game came out in the same year as Thief and MGS
>>9573154
King's Field is a 1994 game. At least compare it with a game that came out in 1998, like Shadow Tower, which looks better than OoT

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>>9573181
>At least compare it with a game that came out in 1998, like Shadow Tower, which looks better than OoT

Yeah, not seeing it. Game has a draw distance worse than turok 1 too.

>> No.9573298

>>9570181
ALTTP is a more open and fulfilling game.

>> No.9573306

>>9573298
>2D
>open
Pick one and fuck off.
>>>/v/

>> No.9573321

>>9570181
1986 when the first zelda game game out

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>>9573273
And here it is in motion, how can anyone claim this looks better than OOT

>> No.9573325

>>9573049
Correct. Legends 2 is PlayStations Ocarina, while Legends 1 is its Majora.

>> No.9573327

>>9573323
Man. You my sir are FUCKING BUTT HUUUURRRRRRRTTTT hahaha get fucked kid. Up the ass. By me. Cause you're a loser lmao.
>>>/co/
Fuck off wuss. IN MY ASS HAHAHA

>> No.9573328

>>9573327
Someone asking an honest question is the equivalence of being butthurt?
Cope harder I guess.

>> No.9573339

>>9573323
The animations in this game look like it came from a middle school Blender class
Dogshit

>> No.9573343

>>9573154
Kek. I tried to play that shitshow after everyone started raving about demons souls. Laughed my ass off at the "combat" for about an hour and quit

>> No.9573348

Legends 1 is better than 2. And both are better than OoT.

>> No.9573350

>>9573325
*Misadventures of Tron Bonne is its Majora

>> No.9573360

>>9573147
It's an official Smash art by Nomura

>> No.9573413

>>9573181
>that's irrelevant,
It's actually not irrelevant for graphics how big a game is and how many assets it has. Not trying to debate this retard but just pointing this out for younger anons

>> No.9573415

>>9573348
Both of those are mediocre graphicsfag games. Stop piggybacking Zelda with that shit

>> No.9573426

God, N64fags are so annoying. These are always the worst threads in this board, they as bad as the average /v/ thread.

>> No.9573430

>>9572436
>is that an opinion different to mine??? bait!!!

>> No.9573435

>>9570181
never

>> No.9573457

>>9573426
so dont post in them?

>> No.9573460

>>9571840
Underrated.

>> No.9573463

>>9570463
>Why did they add "dorf" to the bad guy's name?
Make it german sounding, a lot of the game was inspired bygermany

>> No.9573483

>>9573426
> Gets annoyed every time he sees an n64 thread
> Posts in said thread to let the world know and bump thread as a result making him seethe even harder

Just stay the fuck out of these threads if they annoy you so much.
This is room temperature IQ at peak performance.

>> No.9573484

>>9572378
True
>>9572897
But also true
Much truth in this thread....

>> No.9573513

>>9573430
Censorship is never an improvement

>> No.9573759

>>9570193
>only one gets the joke

>> No.9573806

>>9570181
I topped it probably around 8 pm, after school and a few hours after dinner.

>> No.9573862

>>9571859
Your list is buyllshit, but TP shits on Wind Waker in every possible way outside of le poetic cell shaded visuals. At least it has a ton of well-designed and good looking dungeons.
That said, it's still filled with trashy c-tier filler sections, like any post-MM and pre-BOTW Zelda game.

>> No.9574321

>>9570181
How can you top something that was never at the top?

>> No.9574349

I played it maybe 10 years after it came out. Got myself a N64 and a bunch of game way after the hype passed and I played through most of them.

Both OoT and M64 I feel are just good enough. There's nothing really bad about these games but they're so ... unimpressive it's painful. I'd say a certain level of technical complexity and storytelling and presentation was achieved in the late stages of SNES that reverted back to an infantile approach on the N64. I'm sure they had to play it safe since the move to 3D was challenging, but the content and the complexity of it is still lacking.
It's like going from assembling a Lego Technic set to "assembling" Duplo sets. They might be aesthetically pleasing in some infantile way, but it's a huge step down conceptually.
I just feel like far more could've been done. All the situations, locations and so on feel trite and lacking. The storytelling is paper-thin and the entire thing is coasting on mood alone. The entire game feels like a demo.

>> No.9574358

>>9574349
>The storytelling is paper-thin and the entire thing is coasting on mood alone
That's what Zelda games are supposed to be, no?
>I just feel like far more could've been done
I... highly doubt that

>> No.9574463

>>9573323
looks like 90's skyrim

>> No.9574472

>>9574349
Yeah, you about nailed it. Structurally far more interesting things were happening with gaming but there's a strong tunnel vision associated with N64 games and their nostalgia. You must view it ignorant of what was going on other consoles, PC and arcade at the time. N64 fans sure were. Else the impact is completely lost.

>> No.9574509

>>9570463
Finally looked at a guide for the Forest Temple. Turned out I needed to climb those blocks after pushing them. I did try to climb them, but didn't realize I needed to press A. The rest of the dungeon was reasonably straightforward. Most of the puzzles have direct analogs to LttP, so that makes it easier for me.
Anyway, beating the Forest Temple boss took 4 tries. Kept missing and running out of arrows.
Now Navi tells me to go to Death Mountain. I went there, but couldn't figure out what to do yet.
It seems like I should be able to acquire a horse, too. I woke up the horse-girl's dad with the chicken, but not sure what the next step is.
This game is growing on me. Feels like a remix of LttP (a game I like quite a bit), but in 3D. But I will never be impressed by N64 graphics, sorry. They looked primitive to me even back in 1996.

>> No.9574517

>>9570181
OoT was a great game. Still is, but they games have been gradually improving. MM topped OoT, and WW topped MM, and TP topped OoT and MM. Yeah, TP gets panned for being a clone of OoT, and it is, but it's a great game anyhow. If games like TP and SS have done something wrong, it's more a matter of that we kinda had unrealistic expectations from them. Except for maybe Link's Crossbow Training, there have been no bad Zelda games from Nintendo. They just kinda gradually trend upward, even if Nintendo typically fails at fan wish fulfillment. Nintendo will make a great game, but it won't be the game you were asking for.

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>>9571840

>> No.9574614

>>9570181
BotW is the only good 3D zelda

>> No.9574702

>>9570181
majoras mask, and then again with twilight princess

>> No.9574713

>>9570181
Every 3D Zelda made since (except arguably Skyward Sword)

>> No.9574726

>>9573513
absolute brainlet take.
diamond>crescent
simple as.

>> No.9574772

>>9570463

Zelda is Link's sister, also Sheik. Zoomer zoom czoomer

>> No.9574854

>>9570181
LOL BY CONTRA AND EXCITE BIKE ON NES

>> No.9574856

>>9572462
made me laugh

>> No.9575157

>>9570181
Before it even launched

>> No.9575216

>>9574726
Another onions latte, ma'am?

>> No.9575260

>>9570181
Wonderboy 3 is much better.

>> No.9575354

>>9573323
people love to make bullshit claims about obscure games and then hope you don't actually check

>> No.9576198

>>9570181
Superman 64 is much better

>> No.9576202

>>9570181
Zelda died when it went 3D
Change my mind
You can't

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>>9570181
Absolute List:

MM = TP > OoT = WW > SwS > BotW > LotP > Zelda I > Zelda II

>> No.9576249

>>9576208
3Dbabby list
>OoT = WW
kek

>> No.9576254

>>9576202
How did it die if quality 2D games were still coming out well after OoT?

>> No.9576342

>>9570181
Probably not until last year when Elden Ring (the modern spiritual successor to OoT) was released.