/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8941121
Outside of those games the early Playstation library is 3DO tier.

Eventually there will be a game literate youtuber who will make good videos that doesn't appeal to Gen Z/have awkward forced humor/call out older games for "aging badly".

They will be able to have a stream-of-conciousness style reviews that accurately convey their own, unique, individual experience with a game, trimmed down and edited to match the pace of each game. Sardonic humor without being edgy, putting the games above themselves.

AVGN was good at this in the beginning, but that turned into a farce and all the imitators got stale, entirely forced. Eventually, it will happen.

>>8941121
You are smalltime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FfcaBOX0XA

>>8941121
so nobody is ps1 game literate but you
bad for us, good for you I guess

Every console has way too many games. I haven't even played shit like RE or SOTN or SH. Its too overwhelming. Makes the entire hobby feel like a chore. How am I supposed to get a good knowledge base on video games when theres so much shit demanding attention and new games keep coming out?

That's fine, I'm more into the NES/Famicom myself.

>>8941148
I'm actually looking through this now. I'm currently up through the I's, and here's all the games that I found peaked my interest for whatever reason. I don't know if all of these are actually or not, I'm just going off the 5-10 second clip

It's actually a pretty fun way to spend an afternoon

>>8941164
Games like Egg are just the kind of bizzare, experimental stuff you didn't see anywhere else but early CD-ROM games.

>>8941148
Quantity does not determine quality pleb

>>8941175
Explain the Dreamcast, then

>>8941171
Those are the most fun to find. I have no fucking clue what I was watching and I want to know more

>>8941158
focus on what U like
Just B urself

my favorite early games are Crime Crackers, Motor Toon Grand Pricks (x)
Kings Field
Nekketso Oyako (this is on saturn too)
Cyber Sled (not to be confused with cyber speedway aka gran chaser on the sega saturn famous for its god tier JP soundtrack that got ass fucked and pulverized in the US)
StarBlade Alpha
Aquanauts Holiday

>>8941121
The point of this thread is?

>>8941181
I cant afford all these games...

>>8941121
>muh hipster points
nobody cares retard

>>8941184
Just to highlight how little people know about their own hobby. Likewise, anon here >>8941164 can watch this anon's video >>8941148 and get a rough idea of the scope, but a few 5 second clips of games which took months and maybe years to make does little to explain the cultural context and impact even the most innocuous titles had.

It's like going onto MyAnimeList and picking out a specific year and finding all the anime that looks cool to you. Fun and possibly educational, but it's just one very tiny step in becoming literate about media. It's nothing bad though, I do it as well.

>>8941201
Unironic hipsters prefer inauthentic retro games like Shovel Knight and Cruelty Squad. Possibly Murder House.

>>8941184
flexin'

>>8941208
>not knowing every piece of crap software release for Playstation in the year 1995 in Japan only means you don't know anything about video games

>>8941208
>becoming literate in media
its just genuinely impossible.

>>8941121
>muh obscure Japan only tech demo is a le hidden gem because it’s like old and stuff

Is there a way for someone to play the first year of the ps1 library from start to finish? If the game sucked I’d just stop playing and move on to the next. early ps1 games have a weird look to them which draws me in. I played the first or second kings field the other year and had a good time.

>>8941121
saturn is worse when it comes to people not knowing the library

休憩所 as rest room. Hehehe. I would have gone with rest area to avoid making it sound like a bathroom.

>>8941121
>Nobody on /vr/ can name the game this screenshot
Of course not, this is an English speaking website and that's a Japanese game that was probably shit and therefore never released in the West.

>>8941221
this. even though OP is bragging about knowing this random game, I doubt he really knows anything about it other than basic facts like who made it and maybe playing it for an hour or two in an emulator. I especially doubt he has any particular fondness or connection to it. it's just a footnote in his own mental database.
becoming "media literate" through trying to consume a shitload of it isn't even a good goal since all you'll really be doing is memorizing names and factoids about various games that you in reality have surface level experience with. it's impossible for someone to play and have a proficient grasp of thousands of games of different styles (let alone attempting to understand them on a deeper level than you'd get from a single casual playthrough) unless that's all they do with their life. any single medium is just too voluminous for someone to have a good knowledge base on everything about it. there will always be a gap somewhere no matter how hard you try
if you want to be knowledgeable about games for some reason and don't want to do that through developing them yourself, pick a style, era, genre, developer, etc. you like and specialize in it. there is little value in being a jack of all trades and a master of none

>>8941354
>Is there a way for someone to play the first year of the ps1 library from start to finish?

Sure it's possible, though for some genres you may have to bend the rules as to what "start to finish" means, like if the game is endless and has no ending.

I mean Mexican Runner has played the entire NES official library; and there is a Japanese group on a website that beat all Famicom games. If those can be done, then "the first year on PSX" shouldn't be a problem. You may need to get good in order not to spend 3 years on it.

>>8941146
So basically something similar to Chrontendo, but for the PS1. Christ that will be a herculean effort, you'd probably die before playing every game for 5-10 minutes.

>>8941442
That's because almost nothing got imported outside of Japan. Unless you got one of those early weeb video game mags you wouldn't have known a damn thing about that library back then.

>>8941121
What grme is picrel?
I dig the flat shaded art style.

>>8941490
Fuck, dude, right in the dick with that one
>if you want to be knowledgeable about games for some reason and don't want to do that through developing them yourself, pick a style, era, genre, developer, etc. you like and specialize in it. there is little value in being a jack of all trades and a master of none
All my life I have lived, experienced, and loved vidya, actively seeking new information about all aspects. My personal knowledge base is somewhat limited for the early gaming period before I was born (1st, 2nd gen, born 1987, got an NES in '89). I never focused on one particular generation, but I ended up the most knowledgeable single person I know (both irl and online) when it comes to videogaming as a whole. I want to work in a museum of videogames where my job is to know videogames.

>>8941490
There are specialized knowledge topics where being a jack of all trades is useful. For example, if someone's interested in tracing back how certain features evolved or became popular, knowing a few things about a wide number of games is helpful. Hell, my hobby is visiting arcades, so widening the number of games I'm passingly familiar with is helpful for when I run into machines I don't encounter often.

>>8941121
Ps1 first year was 1994

>>8941181
>focus on what U like
>Just B urself
sir this is /vr/ not a classic 90s house record

>>8941506
They had to set specific conditions for games that don't have an actual ending. It's hard though because RPG, strategy, and some sports games take forever to play through and you need an autofire controller for shmups. The Mexican Runner literally had to play through an entire 80 game season 4x for each edition of Bases Loaded.

Trying to do a similar "play all PS1 games" challenge is fucking impossible due to the sheer size of the library. there's at least 1300 North American releases and supposedly the total worldwide library is close to 8000 games. even limited to just North American stuff the games on average are longer than cartridge era stuff.

>>8941121
I know it's just early 3D with less understanding of the hardware at the time but what strikes me is that the GBA could render this type of scene, without much difficulty. Seriously. Half the hardware must've been sitting idle.

>>8942446
>there's at least 1300 North American releases
Be a smart anon and handpick the games that are actually worth investigating.
use >>8941148 on 2x speed and write everything down. Max you will have unless you're a massive nut is 300 games, guaranteed.

>>8942748
i can't afford them

>>8942757
>https://archive.org/details/SonyPlayStationSpecialCollectionSingleDiscGames1G
>https://archive.org/details/SonyPlayStationSpecialCollectionSingleDiscGamesHP
>https://archive.org/details/sony-playstation-champion-collection-q-z-updated
>https://archive.org/details/sony-playstation-champion-collection-multi-disc-updated
c'mon dawg

>>8942762
I ain't gonna emulate

>>8942764
burn them to a CD then dumby dumb dumb

I played them all on demo discs. They were the shit. Rarely actually bought games, just played demo discs and dreamed about owning games

>>8942770
Can you quit being an asshole to me?

>>8942779
Pucker up buttercup.

>>8941121
So... what's the game in the OP? Is it Tokyo Dungeon?

Instead of being concerned that people don't know about some early Japan only PSX shovelware, you should be concerned by the fact that "retro gaming" history is depends on trends, that is mostly a console-only thing, and that game re-releases go through revisions to appeal to an audiance that wasn't the original audiance and back up their idea that old=bad by design.
Like how zoom zooms genuinely believe any sort of difficulty in a game was "padding to hide the lack of content", which is applying modern logic to old games (the idea that every game no matter the genre should have 10+ hours of "content" being a modern one) and re-releases back that mentality up by adding savestates/rewind that they call "QOL improvements" instead of calling them cheats (don't get me wrong, cheats are more of an old game thing than a modern one, but everyone called them cheats then).

That is the kind of things you should be concerned about rather than a random untextured shovelware game full of engrish.

>>8941121
>Despite the PS1's first year having over 115 video games released
Now compare the first year of the Famicom, there was maybe around 7 games (North American NES launch had 15 or so). The Mega Drive had maybe 20? Just the first year of the PS1 alone (meaning December '94 to December '95) had roughly 120.

>>8943629
Trial-and-error mechanics are padding though

>>8943710
as anon said PS1 games are generally longer than cartridge era ones. the average PS1 game is 1-2 hours long for most action titles, and RPGs...while many cartridge era games can be beaten in 40 minutes or less. load time from the disc is also a factor.

Not only was Sony a far bigger company than Nintendo, etc but games were cheaper and easier to make than ever before since dev tools by the mid-90s were much better than they were 10 years earlier and coding would be done in C instead of assembly language. Nobody had to design games around specific cartridge hardware based on what was available and what management would pay for, you just slapped it on a 55 cent disc and shipped it. The result was that the amount of games coming out was overwhelming compared to earlier times.

>>8942446
no I'm not playing Mary Kate and Ashley: Mystery Mall to claim I did it

>>8941121
>BRO I KNOW PIC RELATED AND YOU DON'T
just start a thread for the game instead of this /v/ adjacent faggotry

>>8941490
What i like to do is go on ROM sites, download random games i've never heard of (mostly japanese stuff) burn them and play them. I've had great surprises before.

>>8941121
ah yes the early days of PS1 when it was full of quick and dirty PC ports and they had those VHS-style game boxes

>>8941181
>Kings Field
My nigga

>>8941471
>shit and therefore never released in the West.
I know you're baiting but still you still deserve being called a retard just in case.

>>8943629
This is a good post.

>>8943629
>>8944763
No one cares. Use emulators.

>>8944851
Who are you talking to?

>>8944851
no thank you, ma'am

>>8941121
I played Kileak The Blood, BRAHMA Force and Zero Divide and I'm not a hardcore PS1 fan by any stretch of the imagination, so what kind of know-nothing faggot are you that thinks they're unknown enough to brag about?

>>8944948
Three of my favourite PS1 games.

>>8941121
I’m a retro game pleb, ok? Now what’s the game OP