/vr/ - Retro Games

How much of RPG playtime padding is just dialogue, running around trying to find the right NPC to trigger the plot, fights and cutscenes?

For that reason alone I find it difficult to play without a fast forward button.

>>8771083
You posted it. Vagrant Story is under 40 for sure. BoF 3 and 4 are around 40, definitely less with emulator fast forward. Lunar 1 & 2 are 40ish. Alundra definitely.

>>8771083
Suikoden

>>8771098
ADHD and gaming is a terrible mix.

>>8771083
No

>>8771083
You literally posted two of them Vagrant Story and Suikoden 2 are both reasonably long but not ridiculous. Suikoden 1 is like 15-20 hours unless you do a completionist run and that only adds a few more hours.

>>8771098
My only problem is long attack animations you have to watch over and over, and when you just want to explore a dungeon you've mostly completed but having constant encounters.

Chocobo Dungeon
Chocobo Dungeon 2
Torneko: The Last Hope
Azure Dreams

>>8771098
Level grinding, don't forget about the grind.

>>8771164
>getting a vehicle doesnt unlock extra areas, just increases your movement speed
I'm pretty sure I have ADHD but I also hate wasting time. I'm not playing an action RPG or action adventure here so why should I feel guilty for abusing the FF button?

Vandal Hearts isn't long at all. Maybe about 20 hours.

Rhapsody is probably the shortest RPG I've ever played. I think it took around 10 hours.

>>8771253
The fact that most RPGs have been done at ridiculously low levels or speedran shows that level grinding is almost always a player problem.

>>8771261
It would be less than half that if the battles themselves weren't so slow. Yeah the animations look great but good fucking christ.

How long is this game? Was thinking of playing it next.

>>8771335
30 hours

>>8771335
My first playthrough was around 50 hours, including all summons and bosses but I had a general idea what to do. 100% completion could take 70 if you include the cards.

>>8771098
I also use a fast forward button nowadays bc I am an adult with a job and a family. Do not be ashamed.

>>8771253
git gud and/or meta-game

>>8771335
you'll drop it somewhere between 10 and 20 hours

>>8771083
pokemon

>>8771098
zoom zoom

>>8771335
honestly just skip it, squall is the most annoying, angsty little bitch in all of square history, the plot is utter dogshit, dont waste your time. Tripple triad was a hell of a minigame though

>>8771454
>You're not a real gamer if you finish the game with 20 hours short of expected playtime.
<img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="31" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/9ecd704b_PepoThink.png">

SaGa Frontier

>>8771164
Having a modicum of taste is not adhd.

>>8771470
makes me wanna check it out more since I'll relate to him.

Parasite Eve is like a 8-12 hour game

Mario Thousand Year Door ruined a entire generation
>I PLAYED THE LE PEAK AND SAD OTHER JRPGS AREN'T LIKE THIS!!!

FF 1-2 on ps1 :^)

>>8771164
Where in his post did he say he can't play ANY kind of game?

>>8771635
meds

>>8771635
who are you quoting?

>>8771335
If you plan ahead you can get an ability that turns off random encounters in disc 1, you can get magic from card modding instead of using draw and since enemies scale with your level you don't miss the experience points. No grinding (except in the beginning) shaves a lot of time off the usual estimates

>>8771083
im about 22 hours into FF7. Someone told me im halfway thru. I don't think i can play another fuckin 22 hours of it tho. The story for each character is nice but i just want things to wrap up already

>>8771979
you can really fly through the second half if you want to

>>8771635
<span class="xae" data-xae="kay">😐[/spoiler]<span class="xae" data-xae="yikes">😒[/spoiler]<span class="xae" data-xae="eyeroll">🙄[/spoiler]

>>8771454
I'm older than you and agree with the zoomer. RPGs from the late 90s onward tend toward being bloated and boring.

>>8771317
Those runs often exploit glitches that the casual player would have no idea existed.

>>8772754
A great game to play to really get a feel for the role of the grind is FF4 Free Enterprise. It's a game designed to be speedrun but the final boss has a shitload of hp and a big full-party AE, and fixes glitches that can be used to skip the fight.

Basically the game doesn't split XP normal(by default). So the result is that you can get most of the XP you need from bosses alone. In fact, if you fight all the bosses you'll be way overleveled (the race context provides a nice incentive to challenge Zeromus as soon as possible but still leaving grinding to the player). Ultimately there are a few highly-efficient grinding spots, where you can typically grind the levels you need in 5-10 minutes. Beating most bosses at low levels doesn't require glitches, just good understanding of the mechanics.

>>8771360
>don't be ashamed to skip the whole content stupid little zoomer
>i'm le adult with le real responsibilities

jesus christ fuck off, you should be ashamed to even post shit like that

This thread is why I stick to CRPGs, OP

>>8771083
Jade Cocoon<img class="xae" data-xae width="29" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/7a95728b_Gigachad.png">

>>8771083
Oh come on, OP, if you play for 6 hours a day, you'll finish each one in one week square.
That's how they were meant to be played anyway.

>>8771454
I'd rather play a beat 'em up or a shmup with actual gameplay rather than some movie game <span class="xae" data-xae="disgust">🤢[/spoiler]. But enjoy defending the genre responsible for what the gaming industry has become past gen 6

>>8771083
How do you even pad a FF7 or Vagrant Story playthrough out to go that long?

>>8771083

>>8771164
>you don't like boring games? did you take your legal meth aka Ritalin today?
JRPGs are generally pretty poor role-playing games. The best they can do is hit the right combination of story + presentation + making the combat somewhat entertaining.
Most of them are a niche genre for autists who get comfy feels from repetitive shit. Playing through them with fast-forward is autistic too. Why not outright skip all the pointless random encounters and hex edit your stats? Why not watch somebody play it on youtube then because you're obviously not entertained by the "game" part.

>>8771164
Justify this, then Pro tip: You can't
https://youtu.be/UoFT4-TpxYE?t=36

>>8771083
Guardian's Crusade
Koudelka
Suikoden 1
Rhapsody A Musical Adventure

>>8771083
Valkyrie Profile is like 25 hours tops

>>8771083
why would this possibly matter? play the fucking game the time it takes is totally irrelevant...if you stop liking it turn it the fuck off and move on.

>>8773867
i finished disc 1 in around 45 minutes
are the rest of the discs this short?

>>8773867
her feet must REEEEEK

>>8774605
she got that pagan foot cheese

>>8771470
>nooo how dare a kid who was orphaned, transferred to a military school and then trained with the sole purpose of killing the woman who raised him be angsty
>b-but the rest are fine
no, they are also broken in their own way

its like you people didnt even pay attention.

>>8771470
hes really not angsty hes an introvert being constantly assaulted by annoying extroverts trying to break his shell

>>8773847
Autist hands typed this post

>>8772979
>But enjoy defending the genre responsible for what the gaming industry has become past gen 6
Why not go all the way up the chain and blame Gary Gygax for inventing Dungeons & Dragons

>>8773815

>>8774846
Cause then I wouldn’t have nethack

>>8771335
It's good don't listen to the zoomers