/vr/ - Retro Games

N64 games were £60-£70 RRP back in the day. Which adjusted for inflation is £130-140

Fucking insane. It's no wonder companies jumped shipped and sales were so poor. And why everyone only had the bonified certified top games.

>>8690481
Certain games were usually cheaper depending on things like if the game saved to a memory pack and game size. I don't really know of a single N64 owner that doesn't own some sort of budget title.

>>8690481
I rented a lot of N64 games back then, it was probably the cheapest way to play N64 back then outside of going to a thrift shop looking for used games (and honestly, used n64 games used to be real cheap).

>>8690481
>bonified
For future reference, it's "bona fide". Comes from Latin.

>>8690295
n64:
>bad image quality
>bad res
>bad sound quality
>uses cartridges
>low fps
>most games are better on the ps1, saturn and dreamcast
>has no analogue triggers
>uses batteries for saves
>analogue stick is broken and terrible
>small library
>controller is awkward
>looks shitty
>overuse of fog in games
>textures look like dog vomit

>>8690295
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>>8690295

>>8690481
I originally got the PS1, didn't get an N64 until the Gamecube just came out
Gamestop was having a big sale online where you could buy a huge collection of N64 stuff for cheap
I got new (I think) pikachu N64 in box and used games were like $10-$20 each
Giant box came to my house filled with the system and a bunch of classic games for around $200

>>8690295
i actually just got a controller, used to rely on keyboard so yeah i'm doing some mario 64. might play some rareware games after that, those always seemed neat to me but i never got around to em except for conker once.

>>8690739

>>8690771
>didnt realise i was segafag

>>8690771
>>8690739

>>8691000
based

>>8691000
checked and kino

>>8690728
>uses cartridges
You say it like it was a bad thing. CD drives were really slow back in the day, the advantage was CDs could hold more data than cartridges, and were cheaper.

>>8691106
>You say it like it was a bad thing

why are you so retarded? of course it is, thats one of the reasons why the sound quality is shity and the shity fps drops, id rather wait 5 seconds and play a game at 40fps with good image and sound quality than having to wait 1sec and play a shity sounding and looking game

>>8690728
n64 has paper mario. what other console has that?

>>8691124
whats a paper mario?

>>8691121
Actually the N64's lack of a dedicated sound chip is why some games had bad audio. It could sound just as good if not better than the PSX/SAT when used properly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIQZJoMiYWU

>>8691121
honestly this
imagine perfect dark on a ps1, imagine not running at 8 frames per second
i’ll waste 20 seconds to not play at 0.66 speed and waste 20 minutes playing a 15 minute segment

>>8691129
>imagine perfect dark on a ps1
The console would explode.

i replaced the rubber buttons of my controller and now it feels good, the stick is still loose but can take it.

>>8690481
Adjusted for inflation from 1998 £50 is £93.62

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator

They were £50 or sometimes £60 Irish pounds, so couldn't have been too much more expensive there. I think maybe when it was released originally first, like the first six months to year, it might have been more expensive.

>>8690481
Adjusted for inflation from 1998 £50 is £93.62

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator

They were £50 or sometimes £60 Irish pounds, and that would have been less in British Sterling. Though I think the first six to twelve months after it was released it may have been super expensive and for that brief period had been your prices.

>>8691128
>sound coming out of an emulator
on hardware its much worse. also still sounds super shity, heres some top tier saturn music:
https://youtu.be/shmmu4Dq3-I
n64 can't compete

>>8691129
you mad that ur game plays like shit?

>>8691152
>streamed music off a CD
Not a fair comparison.
>on hardware its much worse
Not true.

>>8691131
but what about on the dc

>>8691157
>streamed music off a CD
Not a fair comparison.
you faggot showed me the music played on an emulator so stfu.
>not true
you zoomers are cute

>>8691168
There is no difference in the sound if it's emulated or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIFLQYTnxuk

>>8690295
>Have you played any N64 lately?
I'm playing through Perfect Dark and really enjoying it. Have Goldeneye ready to play next, but will have to buy some games after since I only own the two so far.

don't reply

>>8691172
there is, because when its emulated the sound comes directly from the console but on real hardware it comes from the va cable, its like the md, when u emulate the md the sound is sharp and stuf but on real hardware its more smooth. obviously it also has to do with the speakers but u get it.
but since the ps1 and saturn have cds, they dont really have that issue
https://youtu.be/_7UJJGH2XeI

>>8691187
also, DOES UR N64 GAMES HAVE EUROBEAT? NO NOPE DON'T THINK SO

>>8691181
you might find Goldeneye more archaic compared to Perfect Dark but I still think its a great FPS.

>>8691129
imagine outrun running at 20fps ?
https://youtu.be/SozvhUlyXec

>>8690762

Try PilotWings and F-Zero if you haven't, they are fun

>>8691193
I played through the first part of the Dam to make sure the cart was working, after I had been playing Perfect Dark previously. I had quite a bit of fun, so I'm not too worried about the game being archaic by any means. Fun is timeless.

>>8691187
>when u emulate the md the sound is sharp and stuf but on real hardware its more smooth
That's a result of the low quality DAC used on the Genesis. The N64 audio difference is negligible in comparison.

>>8691238
>low quality
no at has to do with the rf cable, if you plug the speakers directly in the jack port of the megadrive, the sound is pretty good

>>8691247
It still has the distinct low pass filter that the actual hardware Genesis is known for.

>>8691251
idk sounds good to me
https://youtu.be/E5g-QHq925o

>>8691263
That is emulated
https://youtu.be/Ff0b5yGeBrM?t=406
This is real hardware.

>>8691236
There is nothing archaic about it, imo it's a better game - some prefer GE, some prefer PD.

>>8691274
>those epic basses
idk whats the problem with it, i actually prefer this than the earrape emulated ones

>>8690728
The cartridge load times were a god send for multiplayer games though. Was playing Bomberman Party Edition for the PS1 at a party with a couple of friends, most of the time was spent in loading screens. Don't have that problem with the N64.

>>8690728
Nice bait.

>>8691308
The low pass filter does add a lot to the music. It was what the developers were testing it on so it's only natural it sounds the best.

>>8691318
Nice cope

>>8691313
anon, I dont really care about loading times as long as the game doesnt look and play like shit

>>8691342
Well that's good then because the N64 had the best multiplayer games that gen.

Replicating the n64 controller with DualShock or Xbox controller for emulation never feels right - what’s the closest you can get when playing on a pc right now? Is the Bluetooth official n64 controller for switch the best - there was a retro bit but it’s since discontinued I think. Part of the fun emulating is totally lost when controllers don’t seem to feel right

>>8691367
There's always adapters, and I heard the switch N64 controller is very good although you need a subscription to obtain it. They even greased up the stick so it doesn't wear down, which is something you can do to your OEM controllers to extend their lives.

>>8691367
R2/L2= Z button
2nd Analog = C-Buttons
Square = B
X= A
with nrage's plugin you can set-up macros so Triangle and Circle can be C-Up and C-Right

For certain games (FPS and the fighting games) I use all the face buttons for C-buttons while A and B are assigned to L1/R1 and finally I map L to the Select button.

>>8691359
>Well that's good then because the N64 had the best multiplayer games that gen.
Im sure it did, hows ur golden eye running at 2fps in 4 split screen?

>>8691406
>golden eye
And Mario Party 1, 2, 3, and Mario Kart, and Perfect Dark, and Diddy Kong Racing, and Gauntlet Legends, and Quake 2, and Battle Tanx, and Super Smash Bros, and Bomber Man 64, and F-Zero, and Donkey Kong 64...
I know you consolewarriors don't have friends, but when it comes to multiplayer I'd take the countless games on the n64 over the two 4 player games worth playing on ps1 that require a multitap.

>>8691427
>all runing at 10fps
at least ps1 and saturn games dont run at 10fps. also they do have some great multiplayer games

>>8691442
>at least ps1 and saturn games dont run at 10fps.
Well I wouldn't be so sure about that. At least when they try rendering something larger than a cardboard box.

>>8691442
You're boasting about fps, playing Quake or Tomb Raider all alone by yourself in your dark room, while the kids downstairs are having a blast playing Goldeneye 4 player death match all together. And after that, they'll move onto Mario Party and maybe top the night off with Super Smash Bros before passing out with their bellies full of pizza and soda. Then they'll wake up in the morning and before their moms come pick them up, knock out another few rounds of Goldeneye all while you're still up in your room, tears running down your eyes whispering to yourself
>b-but at least I have good framerates on this single player game!
Sure, you have that, but your friends have abandoned you, and you will die alone.

>>8691457
kek have you seen the demo of shenmue you retard? or played vf2? or even seen outrun run on the dreamcast? or wing arms? they all run great

>>8691475
>have you seen an unfinished tech demo, a 1 on 1 fighter with 2D backgrounds or games running on another platform?
I have. I don't see how that's related though.

>>8691442
mate cmon now
both Saturn and PS1 can't handle the geometry that the 64 has

>>8691473
>You're boasting about fps, playing Quake or Tomb Raider all alone by yourself in your dark room

oof, try again retard, im sure you are having lots of fun playing ur shity goldeneye at 2 frames per century
https://youtu.be/93Zpzm37sTU
https://youtu.be/rcfzFFpOtuY
https://youtu.be/6H4VoDiguhY
https://youtu.be/cJab4odvKY8

>>8690295
I don't go back to it, but when I was a kid I played the 64 and DC the most. PSX and PS2 are just loaded with JRPGs so just to beat 1 I sunk lots of time in it, if they were much shorter I would still spend more time on 64 or DC.

>>8691479
>I have. I don't see how that's related though.
are they running at 10fps?

>>8691485
try running tomb raider 4 on the n64

>>8691489
The Shenmue prototype is running at zero since it was never released. VF2 runs at 60fps with a whopping two character models on screen and 2D JPG backgrounds.

>>8691491
>tomb raider 4
It's a bunch of squares, the textures may be low quality but it would run fine

>>8691492
>The Shenmue prototype is running at zero
ur retarded, and you didnt mention wing arms, also the 3d area of sonic jam is pretty good too

>>8691495
>It's a bunch of squares
faggot obviously never played tomb raider 4, and ur lucky, because they also made a dreamcast version, the n64 would melt

>>8691504
it is a bunch of square geometry

>>8691486
Yes I am, because 4 player games with your mates are the bomb. Sorry you grew up friendless and never saw that.

>>8691508
well yeah just like any game, but dont say its just "squares" like its virtua racing

>>8691528
Yeah but 64 games don't they are mostly more complex, even if they are still considered primitive by todays standards, in spite of the shitty textures

>>8691526
>are we a joke to you?
also I would prefer playing vf2 with my friend and having a good time than playing goldeneye with 4 friend, game running at 4fps, the shity stick hurting my thumb, and bleeding from my eyes bc of how shity the image quality is

>>8691532
you faggot
you obvioulsy never played tomb raider 4 i can see

>>8691538
There's kind of fuck all to play with those adapters. Nothing on the level of Smash Bros especially.

>>8691542
smash bros is kinda gay, three dirty dwarves is better, or just play a real fighting game like vf2

>>8691538
Read my posts again. You barely have any games worth playing with those. Plus the consoles they're on introduced load times which are a huge hype killer at parties.

>>8691540
I think you are the one who hasn't played it or at least not recently

>>8691551
VF2 is a fucking snoozefest and Three Dirty Dwarves is shovelware with some of the worst audio balancing I've ever heard in my life.

>>8691557
>faggot doesnt realize how much advanced tomb raider 4 is for the ps1
tr4 isnt like tomb raider 2 you massive faggot, theres actually some detailed shit and good light effects, if tb4 was on the n64 it would run at 3fps

>>8691569
where were we discussing detail?
we were discussing geometry and only geometry

>>8691559
>VF2 is a fucking snoozefest and Three Dirty Dwarves is shovelware with some of the worst audio balancing I've ever heard in my life.

ur retarded, and those games are epic, ur just mad

>>8691574
thats what im saying, tr4 has detailed models, and lots of them

>>8691578
1 on 1 fighting games are boring, nobody plays that shit. Three Dirty Dwarves was made by a dogshit developer and while the music is decent you'll be unlikely to hear it as it's insanely quiet compared to the awful ear rape sound effects.

>>8691586
>1 on 1 fighting games are boring, nobody plays that shit
wut? are you serious or just retarded

>>8691586
>and the rest is just cope

well, guess im gona play virtua cop with my mate then

>>8691582
and yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feV-_3-7dXk

>>8691616
>faggot never palayed the so he doesnt know and has to show an ad where they only show u 3 sec clips of the game
look just play the game retard

>>8691634
>faggot never played the game so he doesnt know and has to show me an ad where they only show u 3 sec clips of the game
look just play the game retard

im tired

>>8691182
i wish people did this more often

>>8690581
It's a doggy dog world.

>>8691586
U are a gay ass faggot with no taste

>>8690295
>Have you played any N64 lately?
Yeah, using an Everdrive to play whatever I feel like.
>Banjo-Kazooie
>Ocarina of Time
>Wonder Project J2
>Rakugakids
>Taz Express
>Tetrisphere
>Tetris 64
>Magical Tetris Challenge
>Pokemon Puzzle League
There was also an N64 Game Jam, so I tried a few of last year's winners. Mission Lost Control was a pretty fun RTS. Thinking of trying Starcraft later.

I was playing fifa 98, i forgot old soccer games were really fun.

>>8690581
For future reference youre a stupid ass faggot and no one cares about you or what you have to say.

>>8693039
>Thanks to the arcade development of the "Voodoo Graphics" chipset, you'll get 3D fighting as you've never seen before.
>N64, PS1

>>8690581
hehe my boner fried ur mom's pussy last night

>>8693607
you’re a gen new wine dicksucker

>>8693607
Illiterate faggot

Excitebike 64 feels slow at first but once you get the controls and mechanics the game really shines.

just wondering, I have an ED64+, has it gotten any OS updates or a custom os?

>See the Cybershell Space Station Silicon Valley video
>Dig out the N64 to see if I have an unplayable copy
>I do and now I'm upset about my inability to play a game I've not attempted to play in 23 years
God damn you Donkey Kong 64

>>8695174
i have only seen a custom os and it was worse than the default one.

mario, zelda
t h e l i s t g o e s o n

>>8696063

>>8696073
no u

>>8690295
I've been playing wave race 64 which is awesome and I spent hours of my Friday night playing monopoly 64 against the computer. Yes my social life really is that shit, I enjoyed it though

Love the n64. Recently completed jet force gemini which was one I never was able to complete as a kid. Love the music and world in this game so much. I actually enjoyed going back to explore different paths and save the tribals.

I did use a strategy guide so I could see it being much more frustrating if you didn’t know ahead if time which character could rescue them all or being able to check a count if I missed one somewhere.

Just got an n64 and have been playing through my childhood. The 64 was good times. The multiplayer and sharing secrets and figuring games out with neighborhood kids (meme all you want about the n64, but most kids had many of the same games so you would all be invested in beating and helping others) will be memories I forever cherish.

>>8696741
soi guzzler.

>>8696741
Couldn't never beta JFG because of the whole tribal shit, I do plan on trying to beat the game some day.

>>8690481
It's less that games were more expensive back then and more that games are getting cheaper when adjusted for inflation.

>>8696073
this

>>8690295
Those fucking end labels are atrocious.

>>8690295
Considering putting my collection into custom cases since theyre all loose cartridges.
I figure i'd just photoshop the [Not For Resale] rectangle onto the spines for the NFR variants, and the collectors edition rectangle for the LoZ variant color carts.
I dont know what to do for the grey rereleases of colored cartridges though. Just use the same box and have doubles?

>>8698338
make a custom cover

>>8693607
Zoomer mad

Games not mentioned yet that I love:
Snowboard Kids 1 & 2
Body Harvest
Winback
Iggys Wreckin' Balls

>>8696079
That was one of the big things that made me want a Dreamcast. I just really didn't like the controller, its something I can get over now but back then it was a lot of money for me to spend on a console with all new games when my PS1 and N64 collection were getting bigger and bigger with cheap second hand games all over the place.

Games also not mentioned yet that I love:
Blast Corps
Jet Force Gemini
Glover (supposedly going to be on Steam soon?)
Doom 64

Post N64 games you love that aren't the big 7 (mario 64, smash, ocarina, kart, kazooie, perfect dark, majora)

>>8699352
There are many other best sellers on the console that you left out.

Ill ignore them and go with 1080°.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_fjoI1xw9M

>>8699352
some of my favs
Top Gear Rally
Mickey's Speedway USA
Forsaken 64
Tetrisphere
Mortal Kombat 4
Duck Dodgers 64
Extreme-G

>>8691367
I got this recently and I really like it. I use it to play on native hardware, the stick has close range to the original while having an improved feel and the rumble feels close to the original but slightly weaker which is IMO a good thing.

If you want something closer to the original controller I would recommend the Switch one as its nearly identical, but keep in mind that means your stick wont last very long since the N64 sticks never did either.

Comes with a PC adapter too.

>>8699352
Wave Race, No Mercy and GoldenEye are my three favorites.

>>8699474
Do you happen to know if the wired version is any good? I bought pic related and it's good unless I have to go for precision, aimed shots in Perfect Dark. Feels solid and comfortable with no other issues otherwise.

>>8699615
Pic related being this, because I forgot to upload it to my post.

>>8699474
Good to know was planning on picking up one or two of these.

If I have a NA Version of Beast Wars for N64, but I have a japanese version of it for GBC and plug it into the controller pak.
Will I unlock Megatron X in the NA version of Beast Wars for N64?

Played Gauntlet Legends with the wife last night. Reminded me of old times.

>>8699618
so far this is the only acceptable 3rd party option

>>8699474
I got one of these too. Bought it more for emulation on PC and maybe playing games on the Switch, and I also want to see how it fares as a fighting game controller. It's not bad at all, though I'll probably stick to my stock controller for playing on the actual console.

>>8699474
I have a N64 USB adapter but I still have to get a controller, playing AB, C-buttons without a N64 layout is really annoying.

>>8699474
cringe

gonna play fzero x on switch

the n64 is shity

>>8699352

Iggy's Wreckin' Balls honestly presents a good template for what they should have done with Sonic Xtreme.

OKAY FELLAS

>>8698338
Use the Japanese covers you double nigger.

>>8704416
>the n64 is shity
Playing a good N64 game with an analog stick in 10/10 condition is a magical experience no other console can ever equal. You won't find a 10/10 stick though, and even if you do, it'll wear out eventually no matter how much you try to prevent it. So I guess you're right. The N64 actually is shitty.

Any know if I can still buy bulk universal game cases anywhere?
I want to case up my N64 collection...

>>8693039
This game is actually kino

>>8705710
i heard the euro version has an extra "rpg" mode, is that true?

>>8706257
no but even the games look shity and they all run at 2fps

>>8708841
fuck, you're right /v/.... how could I have been enjoying Wave Race 64 and Blast Corps so much these past days? I must stop playing them. Thanks for telling me, /v/.

>>8708852
you think ur funny but some ps1 and saturn games actually run at 60fps but not a single fucking game on the n64 runs at 40fps, plus you have bad filters and shity music, and ur joystick sucks

>still at it

>>8708863
ya man ur rly rite bro!
thanx 4 tellin' da trut /v/!

>>8708867
cringe

Stop liking Nintendo.

I have a Jungle Green N64 :D

>>8708979
damn, I wish I had one and a green controller.

>>8690481
Inflation is a jewish scam. Paycheck back then didn't rise to meet with inflation.

>>8690581
Advice like this is a diamond dozen

>>8709059
Mine came with a green controller, it’s very sexy. I only have 4 games for it though. Wish I could find Pokémon Stadium for 20 dollars or less.

why does this thread smell like reddit

>>8711318
u r so heckin on point brotheroni maceroni! wanna pway mista gwova wit me uwu

>>8711337
you smell like a trany

>>8711345
tanks u anon-san owo

>>8699352
>Post N64 games you love that aren't the big 7 (mario 64, smash, ocarina, kart, kazooie, perfect dark, majora)

>>8711348
have ur (You)

>>8711350
Excellent taste, the perfect racing game. I don't think I ever got all the keys/mountain dew cans but the exploration and shortcuts were top notch.

>>8711357
thanks for stopping by

How much should I sell my N64 for?
I've got the box, cables, and a blue controller but not the grey one. They stick completely sucks as expected of N64 controllers. Box is in good condition.
I also have the empty box for the blue controller.
I was thinking of selling the 64 as a set with the controller and then trying to sell the empty controller box separately? IDK.
I'm not sure what happened to the grey controller. I think I threw it away a long time ago.

>>8693607
i do, you illiterate imbecile.

>>8690295
>n64
I can smell the virginity and sweaty unventilated room from here

>>8711571
Yeah, I bet you would smell your own shit.

>>8694674
Good to know I love the nes version

>>8711571
That's because you're in it.

>>8711608
you can unlock the NES version once you do the tutorial, wish more games did that.

>>8711441
The boxes are probably the most valuable thing you have right now, and yes people would pay for the empty box of the gray controller.
I think you can sell the console in box + blue controller for a good price, you have the manuals and inserts right?

>>8690295
>No DK controller with Banana Cover
Still bretty gud

>>8711738
That definitely would have been appreciated back in the N64 era before emulation was as viable as it is today. I played so much Donkey Kong arcade in DK64. Would have absolutely shit myself if say Kirby 64 contained Kirby's Adventure, or Mario Party contained SMB, or if they had even come out with a proper retro compilation cartridge.

>>8711756
No manuals.
And just to clarify, I have an empty box for the blue controller, not gray.

https://github.com/rasky/mvs64
it's always neat to see emulators being developed to work on old consoles

So I got a question regarding emulating N64.
I'm using Mupen64 with Retroarch, is it possible to map the left C button and the B button differently or do you just have to put up with it?

>>8712786
you should be able to modify the controls on the game config menu