/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://www.nexusmods.com/quake/mods/7
https://www.moddb.com/mods/violent-rumble

AD MORTEM
Beta thread
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125461
Current release
https://mega.nz/file/erwV0IbC#LE6uNgNAXh8CkxNhZpFxY3cxMWrS6_eaO92ZdotUfho

=== NEWS ===
[03-02] LOLAttack: every monster uses every attack
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=74802#p1214275

[03-01] DBP45: Vrack Botanicals is out now
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2462/vrack-botanicals

[02-28] Dark Forces launcher released, supports mouselook and downloading
https://df-21.net/?post=57

[02-25] Quake 2 Oblivion upscaled texture pack released
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/oblivion-upscaled-texture-pack

[02-24] DOOM 64 re-release updated
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1148590/announcements/detail/3088910094673350021

[02-24] Automap Quake released.
https://jaycie.erysdren.me/quake/automap/

[02-24] The Bikini Bottom Massacre for Doom released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/127189

[02-19] The Zaero hi res tileset pack to complement the existing one is out
https://www.moddb.com/mods/zaero/addons/zaero-for-quake-2-hi-res-texture-replacement-pack

[02-18] Samsara Reincarnation released, a refactor of Samsara and Extra Heroes
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=74652

[02-16] Quake 4 in Quake 2 demake released
https://www.dsogaming.com/mods/quake-4-in-quake-2-demake-is-now-available-for-download/

[02-14] La tailor girl updated to 1.8
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343

[02-12] Co-op arrows mod for Zandronum
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=10520

[02-10] Powerslave Exhumed trailer dropped
https://youtu.be/PzaWiD-tjMI

[02-09] Doom Shinobi releases February 13th
https://youtu.be/6ec6FHhHDII

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

Yes, Romero made a new wad. Yes, it's already mirrored online here.
>>8679115

>>8680434
>>8680440

>>8680434
a new serious sam tse mapping jam just started

>No bunnyhopping.
>5 second weapon switching.
>Clunky lockout times or retarded gimmicks on half the weapons.
>Have to gib enemies so they don't block your path.
>Guns don't even shoot toward the center of the screen, most noticeable with projectiles.
>Melee enemies fucking stand still when attacking. How the FUCK do you make melee enemies even more useless than the Pinky 4 years after the fact, and immediately after releasing a game that had decent ones?
>All enemies are pushover retards who can't even hit you, and when they do it tickles.
>The exception is the Gunner, who's only dangerous because you might mistake him for a harmless Berzerker due to shit character design and eat a couple of grenades.
>Even bosses are worthless.
>Nightmare is basically Normal in any other game, and only achieves that level of difficulty by removing a core function of the enemy behavior that made them even easier to deal with.
>Soundtrack is cool for all but 30 minutes and then becomes grating after you hear the same 6 generic metal songs on repeat ad infinitum.

I don't get it. How did Romero leaving make the game a complete fucking failure on a technical level? It isn't even a matter of artistic direction or leveI design, but the core mechanics of literally everything sucking.

>>8680563
maybe you just don't like the game

>>8680567
It's a fine game, it just fucking sucks.
Solid 6/10.

>>8680563
Most of my issues got solved through expansions. Now there’s mods like Citadel and Mission 64 that double as gameplay mods, one for a harder “vanilla” gam play feel and the other for things like faster switching and aesthetics.

I saw this pasta bait before

>>8680454
>Doom 3 jam
>Serious Sam jam
Shiiit, is this christmas time? Happy to see different games getting mapping attention, not just classic Doom & Quak 1.

Alright, so you see, I'm making a map.
In this map, I want there to be water. Like, deep water. The player never goes under it though.
So uhhhh, the Zdoom deep water sucks dick. The way you climb walls uh, it also sucks. So, you see my problem here, right? How do I uh, slow down player movement when in water without using the deep water thing. Right? Help, yeah?

>>8680726
nah

>>8680563
>Guns don't even shoot toward the center of the screen, most noticeable with projectiles.
That's cause the bullets come out of the model, which is honestly the best aspect of that game.

Also worth mentioning that the levels are all extremely similar and often confusing. Quake 2 sticks with one theme for all of it.

Are any of the master levels worth playing at all?

>>8680654
I'm actually working on a map for the serious sam jam. It's been pretty fun but man is the editor obtuse sometimes. My only complaint (that an anon brought up in the previous thread) is that vanilla tse textures kinda suck. There aren't many floor/ceiling textures so without proper architecture rooms can feel somewhat repetitive. But limitation breeds creativity as they say.

Do we have the N64 version as a mod for PC already?

>>8680563
Has the N64 game been ported to PC already?
Luv me some Quake II
Everything you said is true
Still love it

I'm currently working on a Hotline Miami wad for Doom with a top-down view.
You can move the crosshair, walk around and stuff.
It's pretty fun.

Pic related, the progress so far.
It's still very primitive, but I'm proud of it.

I don't know where else to upload a 15MB big webm file of how it looks like, so uhhh, here you go:
https://a.uguu.se/zbdzQBGx.webm

Do any wads like this already exist?

>>8680881
neat
reminds me of GTA1 & 2

How good is Romero's new level?

>>8680960
Worth every penny.

>>8680881
I dunno if the Take No Prisoners sprites would be helpful for this or not.

>>8680805
>Also worth mentioning that the levels are all extremely similar and often confusing. Quake 2 sticks with one theme for all of it.
It’s not as confusing, but it’s a similar circumstance for Quake 1. It at least has the installation levels starting each episode but that’s only ten percent of the game. I still find each game visually appealing but I can sympathize with others want level variety to at least match Doom 1.

Civvie's next video is gonna be on Powerslave, finally I can have an opinion about it

>>8680430
Someone should send this to Ghost

>>8680839
The developer maps are king man. Open your favorite interior TSE or TFE campaign map and learn from that.

>>8680881
I recall playing something like this a long time ago but i'll be damned if i can find it among all the trash in my doom folder

>>8680881
This looks kinda fun, I would absolutely play normal Doom levels with this top down view

>>8681043
Whenever Civvie likes something he's right but half the time when he dislikes something it's actually a good game. I'm still mad at him for talking shit about Jedi Knight from a technical perspective when he literally reviews boomer shooters for a living.

>>8680430
>4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
>https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA
last change was 9/11/21 then Battlefield 1942 changed on 2/26/22

the readme is the same, what was changed?

>>8680440
>discord

>>8680824
Not really, no

>>8680824
Nope. Play Doom The Way id Did and Doom 2 The Way id Did for an equivalent and better experience. Particularly D2WID.

>>8681161
How about either qtox, Signal, Telegram, Riot, or Mumble?

so romero's still grifting and pumping out the occasional wad to maintain his image, but we still haven't seen sandy have one last go at mapping, or american, or tom fucking hall, or god forbid, timmy "i invented deathmatch" willits? good lord what an awful timeline

>>8681161
>>8681241
Why is it relevant? It's not even a server. It's a file.

>>8681271
Dunno about the others, but Sandy recently explained why he doesn't here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSLn6IRHZt4

>>8681271
>timmy "i invented deathmatch" willits
He’s too busy driving 3D Realms and their studios into the ground.

>>8680994
Quake 1 at least had a few separate tilesets for different styles of castles/ruins.

>>8680964
Where is the free download link?

>>8681271
I doubt Tom Hall would ever want to

Back from the dead, it's /idgames roulette time!

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random
>click link to get a random upload from idgames
>play it (as far as you want anyway)
>no need to finish it if you don't like it - it's supposed to be fun
>take at least one screenshot
>post a link to it here in reply afterwards
>tell us what you thought about it
>if you get a DM map, texture pack, or utility, etc, reroll

>>8681316
Even more now with custom texture packs.
quaddicted.com/files/wads

>>8681316
The palace is different from the sewers which is different from those grey depot levels. It’s just much more pronounced with the “brown and grey” meme and it’s lacking the style shift between 1’s slipgate bases and weird worlds.
It deserves credit for the colored lighting, something I sorely miss from 1.

>>8681286
i haven't watched any of sandy's recent videos but i know he's already made it obvious that he doesn't look back at his id days terribly fondly and has had other things to worry about for decades now, it's cool if he doesn't want to but part of me's always kinda wondered if a modern sandy map would even be remotely as cheeky and sinister and experimental as his older stuff. thank god there are slightly more people doing sandy style maps for both doom and quake these days though, i'll take what i can fucking get at this point
>>8681301
>3d realms
lol holy shit saber/embracer bought them out? i wasn't particularly confident in nu-3d realms to begin with but christ what a waste, i can't name a single thing that saber's managed to touch without somehow managing to fuck it up royally. is wrath even close to being finished yet?
>>8681327
it's ok tom, i harbor several petty long lasting autistic grudges too :DDD

>>8681319
Don't be an asshole. Just donate.

>>8681241
>>8681282
>>8681161
Dicksword and Romero's underwhelming map aside, we probably should find some decent form of supplementary communication for future projects as not to clog up the place. Obviously important things should still be posted here, but if someone wants to dump screenshots of what they're working on or get feedback on some autistic micro-detail then somewhere else would be more ideal.
matrix.org seems promising since it's decentralized and seems to only require an email, for which you can just shit out a protonmail address. It's a little clunky though, but that might depend on the client you pick.

>>8681403
We created an IRC years ago for this very purpose. You can still find it in the bowels of the pastebin. It's just dead as shit.

>>8680824
I kinda like John Anderson's maps. Everything else is okay to bad.
It very obviously was just a project id software slapped together in response to D!Zone, and at a time where the best community mappers still weren't able to match the iwads in quality yet.

>>8681153
the masterserver hosted by the community (aX server) went down recently, so servers weren't visible anymore... now some community member from team SIMPLE updated the executable so it retrieves the masterlist from another host computer, so the servers are visible once more

>>8681403
Steam group maybe?

>>8681395
>lol holy shit saber/embracer bought them out? i wasn't particularly confident in nu-3d realms to begin with but christ what a waste
Shit is thoroughly fucked. IF’s expansion can’t even come through so I doubt Wrath can, and anyone who bought into Graven got rused. Good thing there’s all this Doom and Quake to play and the build games got some love via maps or sourceports, because this shit surrounding 3DR is for the birds.

>>8681419
We did that too. Likewise, it's in the pastebin. Also likewise, it's dead.

>>8681427
I see. Well I'm stymied.

>>8681343
Doom: Awesome, Episode 1 from '07. A decent Ultimate Doom episode. Pretty spammy on monsters but stingy on resources so you can't go all out like you want to. Maybe I did a poor job finding secrets. The straightforwardness reminded me of Pcorf maps. Worth playing for people who prefer old school gameplay.

>>8681431
Forgot the link: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/d-f/doomawsm
And forgot to mention the author, Giest118. Haven't done this in a while.

>>8681416
so its the same

>>8681401
yeah give romero five fucking dollars for a bog standard cookie-cutter speedmap, brenda clearly needs her twentieth facelift and more opioids to keep her tame or else she'll force romero to wear his stupid gas station costume in the rape basement again and make him her bitch. do it for john :(
>>8681424
i didn't need to strengthen my crippling confirmation bias towards the commercial """boomer shooter""" revival fucking sucking for the most part and being almost pointless in the face of the independent mapping/modding scene being as capable as it is now but thanks

>>8681429
Well, they're still there, and revival is worth a shot. The channel is #vr at irc.zandronum.com if you want to take a gander

>>8681271
The only one of those who I'd actually be interested in seeing new maps from is American McGee, and he's too busy on that new Alice game to ever think about doing that in the foreseeable future

>>8681343
I'm not sure the IP range upload ban is lifted, but if this post goes through, I might.

>>8681343
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/crushdepth
Crush Depth (made in 2020) I thought this wad was a bit amateurish. The weapons were too far apart and the monsters were easy to deal with. It looked more like a person was experimenting with GZDOOM features and not a level.

>>8681404
Well, either it should have been displayed more prominently or people just don't want to give up the convenience of more modern chat systems. I'd be willing to try it though.
>>8681419
Linking my steam account to here seems too invasive, honestly. I'd like something that I either don't need an account for or that I would only use for /vr/ stuff.

why isn't tim willits blacklisted already?

>>8681343
Tigger's Respite by Chris Wright from 2010 (https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/s-u/tigspite).). The screenshot is almost the entire map. 17 monsters. The exit is tagged as 2 secrets. The author seems antagonistic in the txt, I guess people shat on his maps before. I wonder if he ever improved.

>>8681438
It's not going to Romero though.

>>8681456
>just don't want to give up the convenience of more modern chat systems
Bingo. That's exactly why it died.
I wouldn't mind repurposing it for 94 Protons development CHOP WHERE THE FUCK IS IT

>play zandronum map with deep water
>go underwater
>begin mashing the taunt button
>[muffled gurgling laughter]

>>8681465
>>begin mashing the taunt button
My favorite part of zandronum

>>8681305
but on what???

>>8681465
>>8681470
I still think one of the funniest thing in Zandronum is when you taunt the exact moment someone else does.
That HEH HEEEENNHHHH gives me life.

>>8681474
94 Protons of /vr/

>>8681438
"john romero trapped in a gas station rape basement" sounds like a bizarre easter egg in a build engine game

>>8681470
>turn on randomized sound pitches
>mash the taunt button again
>you're now beatboxing

>>8681437
technically, only a few bytes were changed in the bf1942.exe, but they are quite crucial because it points to a new masterserver, else you won't be able to see online servers anymore. if you already had downloaded the bf1942 from there, you can also manually replace the executable with this updated one: https://www.moddb.com/games/battlefield-1942/downloads/bf1942-masterbf1942org-patch

If i want to set up a FPS for me and my bros to play on a private server, what would be the best out of quake 2, quake 3, doom 3?
i've played them all before, but haven't played multiplayer in years
i really want to be able to set up a private server and get it going with the minimum of bullshit
only reason i'm going with those is because idk what hardware my bros will play on and i want it to run on as shit a computer as possible and for the actual netcode to not be ass
probably overthinking it

>>8681512
also if i run an source port like dhewm3 or ioquake3, do i still need the cdkey? i just want to pirate

>>8681510
thank you

>>8681343
One last one, Moonstone by Alexander "Eternal" S. from 2012 (https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/m-o/moonston).). Some Eternal Doom worship from everyone's favourite Ruskie. The gimmick is that he stuck to the 64x64 grid on his editor. Tight on ammo and extremely tight on health, you really need a coherent plan to get through it well. Easy to tell where to go but with some non-linearity. I couldn't find any secrets but I gave up hope on that front as soon as I heard the Eternal Doom midi, apparently that's were all the health is.

>>8681343
Pic is truly fitting for that post, indeed.
Haven't done the idgames roulette yet, but I do have a question. Should I reroll if I were to, say, end up with a TerryWAD or a WAD or even PK3 meant for Crispy Doom, PRBOOM+, or Odamex?

>>8681512
okay since no one's bothering, I'll just ask another question, did any of the source ports for q2/q3/d3 etc ever receive an update to the multiplayer server aspect to make it work better?

>>8681531
Reroll whenever you want, no one's watching. Just go until you find one worth talking about. Not sure what you mean by "a WAD or even PK3 meant for Crispy Doom, PRBOOM+, or Odamex". If it doesn't run in whatever port you use, reroll.

>>8681343
>>8681442
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/intacta
Lavish clutter everywhere, mercifully short but still somehow tedious. Worth a play but don't get your hopes up, the worst thing you'll face is 6(?) revenants at the same time. Maybe 4.

>>8681512
I’m assuming this is for deathmatch? 3 would be the way to go. 2 if you want to coop I guess.
Other anons will be better about sourceport options.

>>8681564
yeah deathmatch. i already found yamagi quake 2 which looks good enough desu so i'm gonna go with that and i'm assuming my boomer bros know quake 2 well enough at this point to just want to give it a try.

>>8681571
cool, have fun and share some screens if you take them

>>8681575
i will, but first i need to go through the fuckery that is port-forwarding a server where it doesn't even tell you the ports it's using because it's some 90s shit

>>8681343
The WAD I got just replaces MAP30's music, so uh...here's vanilla MAP30.

>>8680824
They're nothing special even for their era. You have some notable names in there, but it's just not any of their good shit.

I recommend instead just looking at the authors and then looking to see if they made any other Doomin, Cranium (Kvernmo) is one name worth checking out.

>>8681343
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/j-l/khorne
Nothing I can say better than the top comment
>I don't think any dehacked patch can make this level any better, unless the patch makes a female imp crawl out of my computer screen and suck my cock. But since the patch most likely will not make that happen, I will judgeth this to be burned.

>>8681585
Damn, I miss anonymous reviews. Were they helpful? Hell no. But they were damned hilarious.

>>8681583
Oh yeah and here's the WAD
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/music/ttmid

>>8680881
I think there's maybe one or two Hotline Doom mods out there, but I don't think I've seen one like this.

>>8680967
They certainly would. I also wouldn’t be opposed to him grabbing a model viewer and making a bunch of top-down sprites.

>play "classic style" wad
>skip all the early levels that are just tech bases with hitscanners, imps, and the occasional pinkie
I do it every time and no ontwpxye can stop me.

>>8681271
Its been over 25 years, theyve moved on to other shit. I know we all still love these kinds of games, but not everyone is as obsessed as us.

>>8681641
>Its been over 25 years
Next year it’ll have been three decades

>>8681271
Sandy literally just made a video like 2 days ago asking for feedback to make a new map. Compete with like 5 boomer excuses why he wont.

>>8681460
Yeah it's going to support globohomo in ukraine, even worse.

>>8681305
>zandronum rocks ukraine
benefit concert confirmed

>classic doom logo: blue upper and yellow lower halves
>ukraine flag: blue upper bar and yellow lower bar
what an austitic realization to have at this time lol

>>8681482
>>8681474
Aww shit

Do you guys know why my q3 server I'm hosting on my linux home server isn't recognized by my q3 client in windows 10?
They're on the same internal network, and the same subnet (one is 192.168.1.217 and the other ends in .225). Shouldn't the q3 windows client be able to see the q3 server?

https://youtu.be/Jqzq-GLiakY?t=800
Oh! The humanity.

>>8681715
It's just the one humanity actually.

>>8681715
>notices the second eye switch
>even comments on it being there
>one small fight later
>"okay... what do I do now?"
>even looks at the eye switch moments after saying that but still does one more circle around
AAAAAAHHHH

>>8681718
That's cringe.

Do I have to do anything other than run the q3 server binary in linux to get my q3 on windows to see it?
Normally when I run something on my internal network, the services don't have a problem seeing each other, so I'm guessing it's something to do with how the q3 server is broadcasting itself but I'm assuming something like this would just work in 2021?
This is what the server output looks like (i just copied over the baseq3 directory from the windows copy)


> ./ioq3ded.x86_64
ioq3 1.36_GIT_4003a5b-2021-03-17 linux-x86_64 Apr 3 2021
SSE instruction set enabled
----- FS_Startup -----
We are looking in the current search path:
/home/anon/.q3a/baseq3
./baseq3
./baseq3/pak8.pk3 (9 files)
./baseq3/pak7.pk3 (4 files)
./baseq3/pak6.pk3 (64 files)
./baseq3/pak5.pk3 (7 files)
./baseq3/pak4.pk3 (272 files)
./baseq3/pak3.pk3 (4 files)
./baseq3/pak2.pk3 (148 files)
./baseq3/pak1.pk3 (26 files)
./baseq3/pak0.pk3 (3539 files)

----------------------
4073 files in pk3 files
execing default.cfg
execing q3config_server.cfg
couldn't exec autoexec.cfg
Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
--- Common Initialization Complete ---
IP: 127.0.0.1
IP: 192.168.1.217
IP6: ::1
IP6: fe80::badsfasdfasdfasdfasdf
Opening IP socket: 0.0.0.0:27960
]

If we talk about Romero's new map beyond his based donation, it's more of the same with Map11/17/26 textures. I mean catwalks, eye switches, cracks on floor, cyber as turrets. Romero is a tricky guy, he release the same map over and over, but with new textures it looks different every time.

>>8681756
>Opening IP socket: 0.0.0.0:27960
does that apply to all the interfaces?
have you tried to connect to the port from another host?
cmd: nc -vz [IP][PORT]

>>8681775
The cyberdemons weren't really used as turrets, they're just there to kill you if you mess up the platforming. They're harmless otherwise. You're even gifted an invulnerability sphere to kill them with ease.
The red cracks in the floor are a more modern thing with him.

>>8681585
>This one have too low ammo. It's not any ammo to find.

>>8681720
Yeah, I've noticed that in his blind playthroughs, he tends to get lost very easily.

>>8681439
>The channel is #vr at irc.zandronum.com
Am I retarded? I keep getting a certificate has expired error. Using HexChat.

>>8681776
There's only the Ethernet interface (enp5s0 or something) that should be running on this server.
I don't have another host to try it from, I only have the 2 machines.
I'll try that command tomorrow, I ragequit for tonight. Someone else suggested telnetting to the port so i need to try that too.
I just knew it was going to be painful to run a server. I wonder if doom3/dhewm3 is any better in this respect but I intend to try that too. Doom3 was a newer engine iirc.

>>8681813
Works on my machine. I guess try putting gmotasux in the password field, which shouldn't be required.

Repeating question from a thread back, but can anyone recommend a simple Boom compatible blood/gore mod? Just something to add extra spice to normal Doom

I'm really digging the subtle additional blood and gore in Heartland for example

>>8681462
It's coming along.

Do we REALLY need a chatroom for a project like this? Seems like it'd organize fine in the thread, it's Boom/MBF21 maps with vanilla gameplay sort of adhering to some visual themes.
The only actually complex part would be the DeHacked stuff (Decorate for GzD compat).

>>8681925
It always goes back and forth. Hard Fast Faggot Maps didn't use discord, turned out fine. 400ml of /vr/ (Blood mappack) used discord, turned out fine. Violent Rumble didn't use discord, turned out fine. I think there are more good arguments for than against (dedicated channels for showcasing, bug reporting, helping others, etc.), but I think there only needs to be one argument against it: It keeps these threads really booming and a source for vets and newbies to cross paths.

>>8681962
To me, discord always kills threads. Discussion and content moving out of the thread and being over there is not a good thing and there's always a potential for drama. You got the right idea when you said "It keeps these threads really booming and a source for vets and newbies to cross path".

>>8681962
>>8681982
I think the biggest benefit of having an alternate place to talk (that preferably isn't Discord) would be to run projects for different games at the same time without making the thread TOO busy. Ad Mortem and Violent Rumble running at the same time proved that there's not much overlap between games, so it wouldn't hurt.

>>8681319
literally the first post in this thread

>>8681982
It's also a walled garden that splits discussion of stuff between the thread and it, with no way to see crap in there without being on the server.

That's before you even consider how fucking awful the community is with Discord servers, they're all fucking garbage and even the ones with good intentions rapidly go down the shitter.

>>8682056
Smaller the better is usually the rule of thumb. The Serious Sam discord is super slow but it's filled with nothing but people passionate about Sam and nothing else really.

>>8681438
its a fundraiser, its not going to romero
would be pretty insane if he actually tried to charge people for himself for 1 map after releasing sigil fro free

>>8680430
SIGIL but for Doom 2 or for OG DOOM 3.

I'm attempting to get into doom still. On 2 and just beat the pit on UV pistol start. It was probably nearly one of the worst experiences playing this game and I want to push forward just because ep 1-4 of Doom 1 was awesome and I want to play user-generated maps but feel like I need to finish 2 and its add ons first but hell these levels are horrible. Does anyone else remember having trouble with this one?

>>8682243
Kinda your fault for falling for the pistol start meme.

Pistol starting is more fun if you're playing a mod that makes the pistol not atrocious.

>>8682252
Doom 1 was a very fun pistol starting, I feel like otherwise it would have been way too easy. Isn't Sandy Petersen the one who advocated pistol starting, didn't he design most of Doom 2s maps?

Pistol starting is more fun in vanilla because it makes the maps are more like puzzles.

>>8680434
[03-03] anon finishes The 10x10 Project
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125783-the-10x10-project-complete-cl9/

>>8682261
Doom 1 is easy as fuck. Doom 2 can be finished pistol start, 99% of people that played doom 2 did not play it pistol start.
I'm looking forward to when you hit TNT.

>>8682243
Just skip to plutonia dude, lol.

>>8681271
McGee is too busy creating schizo waifu material.

>>8682269
I'm loving this so far, tons of detail and some pretty amazing set pieces like pic related.

>>8682243
There really never is a point to pistol starting unless you're recording a demo. Ever.

>>8682319
The IWADs are too easy when you get so many weapons in the early levels that you can just carry through all the way until the end. Especially Doom 2 where you get more than half of your arsenal by the end of the second map.

This image is due for an update soon. It still recommends PrBoom+ when DSDA-Doom and Woof! exist.

>>8682392
Update is in progress. I'm just swamped with so much other shit right now that it's going insanely slowly.

>>8680824
Yes, Black Tower and the Jim Flynn maps are great early 90s wads.

>>8682287
relatable desu

>>8681636
RIP anon, the ontwpxye got to him

>>8681438
The modern 'independent mapping scene' is full of incestuous autists with zero sense for game design. The commercial scene at least incentivizes map makers to go back to making cohesive map sets again, instead of pumping out yet another Scythe clone that degenerates into unplayable slaughtershit 12 maps in. It's actually embarrassing how many Cacowards got completely mogged by Sigil because no one knows how to make a fucking Doom map anymore.

>slaughtershit
Opinion discarded.

Remember, you can always play on ITYTD if UV is too hard.

>>8682468
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW

>>8682397
I wasn't awake someone was working on it. Keep up the good work Anon!

Yesterday Diablo, today Andariel
the balance has gotten all out of whack, we're just too OP

>>8682392
I still use PRBoom+
What do Woof! and DSDA do better?

>>8682527
>that filtering
Why do you do this to yourself?

>>8682243
i want to make a 2 map set where the first map has literally nothing except a supercharge and a super shotgun, and the second map forces you to take 99 damage at the beginning and never gives you a super shotgun
just to own the pistol start nerds

>>8682614
>2 map set
Make them the secret levels in a megawad, no normal exit in the first one.

>>8682614
Wouldn't that just make it similar to a D2All?

>>8682614
Do it. You won't.
Hard mode: Make it good

>>8682269
I will play this with freedoom

>>8682614
how would you force the player to take 99 damage?

>unreal has a default fps cap of 60
>leaving vsync off actually turns vsync on, and vice versa
oh so that's why it was running like shit

>>8682056
>walled garden
This. Don't use Trannycord FFS.

>>8682056
Yeah I'm not sure why, but Discord users always seem to have really inflated egos. Especially those with any role.

>>8682460
t. Romero

>>8682473
>being so butthurt about getting called out you name your map accordingly
Gets me everytime

>>8682460
God you're a fucking loser and I want you to know that.

>gain some patience and snailpace my way through the map i previously gave up on, due to the tedium of killing the same useless enemies and pots over and over every time i accidentally slid into lava
>beat level
>beat first boss
>decide maybe i was just tired and rash and the game isn't /that/ unfun
>now hitting pots makes them explode so i have to have ammo to get ammo
>and i can't even jump out of water without noclipping because the new lowgrav buff fucks up the physics
>and i'm expected to replay these boring ass levels yet again to access new ones

thank you lobotomy software very cool

>>8682409
>Jim Flynn maps
>masterpieces
BWAHAHAHA

>>8682056
>That's before you even consider how fucking awful the community is with Discord servers, they're all fucking garbage and even the ones with good intentions rapidly go down the shitter.
In my experience, good servers are almost always small ones which aren't open for anyone to just join, and where new users are vetted. Don't know why anyone would ever want to be part of big and open public servers, they're turbocancer.

Not that I'm espousing a Discord server for a /doom/ community project, it's completely unnecessary.

>>8682460
Stop being bad at videogames.

>>8682697
it actually still looks cool most places

>>8683059
>>8682697
Well of course, freedoom is awesome.

The new Romero map sucked. There I said it.

>>8680881

looks fun anon

>>8682561
I always felt my mouse input was weird and I thought it was just my brain not being able to aim without freelook but it turns out PrBoom+ mouse input is not very good. Been playing with Woof! for a while now and my aim is much better. Try it.

>>8682501
>I wasn't awake
Yeah, I certainly wasn't awake when I typed this.

hey guys my grandpa/uncle/stepsister works at id software and interns at machinegames and part times at a gas station, here's the release roadmap
>Q4 2022 - Nightdive Quake 2 remaster
>Q1 2023 - Wolfenstein III
>Q2 2023 - Sigil II
>Q4 2023 - QUAKE: Nameless
enjoy ;)

>>8681438
why are you stupid

>>8683092
Nothing about this would hype anyone. Nothing.

>>8683105
of course, it's all gonna be disappointing

I wasn't aware that Zandronum updated way back in December, how far behind GZDoom is it now?

>>8683114
God I fucking wish it would be fully compatible with Corruption Cards, that would be baller.

>>8683114
Still hopelessly ancient. It wasn't a huge update.

>>8682460
filtered
>>8682928
afaik,romero likes fan-made DOOM maps and his favorite is ancient aliens.

>>8683114
Basically as much as ever, Decorate is still not complete.

>>8682947
Whatever helps you sleep at night
>>8683114
It's still not fully decorate compatible, but it did give us GetChatMessage which allows for some hilarity.

>>8682473
What wad?

>>8683209
Frog and Toad, it's a ribbiks set

>>8683092
When is Wolf 09 getting sold on xbox/steam again though

>>8683114
zandronum still sucks because it doesnt support ZScript.
gzdoom is superior

>>8683209
Frog and Toad. I really hope you like sadistic platforming in your doom wads

Any good GZDoom mapsets for anyone that liked Doom Eternal platforming?

>>8683457

>>8683076
He should have made a DOOM 2 equivalent of SIGIL, or maybe even backed a DOOM3 game modding jam.

>Massive map (coughsundercough) with 5000+ monsters
is that really necessary? sure ports exist that make it less laggy,but i wanna play with custom weapons/enemies,just a boomer compaining

Also fuck maps with death pits

>>8683487
Necessary for the author's vision. Massive ornate slaughters like those are often not considered for GzDoom though because it tends to not handle well huge levels with lots of fine detail and lots of monsters at the same time. This goes quadruple if you use mods with lots of detail and complexity.

I guess you can just look towards levelsets with much more restrained monster counts. Optionally, if your computer is old you can try out GLES and see if there's better performance there, or see if your computer supports Vulkan, which gives some people a good performance boost.

>>8683496
I will try other options,i stopped at the sunder map with the massive tower (Hag finger?) just saw a video of the newer maps and its just crazy to me

>>8683483
I'm pretty sure this map is supposed to be part of a pack Romero is making for Doom 2

>>8683092
The only confirmed stuff there is quake 2 remaster you larping dipshit, hence why the desperate search for Q2: Oblivion source code of late along with Tim "Argh!" Wright whereabouts since 2008.

>>8683092
There was a wolfenstein II?

>Brutal wolfenstein Updated
>Finally play the remastered third chapter
>KINO moment after KINO moment

>>8683487
You could always just play maps that don't have those?
That's the beauty of options. What's the point in complaining?

>>8683546
i like complaining,thats literally it

>>8683550
Very well, I'll just discard your post as I should have done in the first place.
Literally makes no sense to complain about mods when you choose which mods to play out of literally thousands if not tens of thousands of them.

>>8683546
>What's the point in complaining?
If they do it elsewhere they’ll have a username and post history associated with it.

>>8683509
What are the chances that they make it moddable without learning C?

>>8683556
Oblivion debug code is on a linux gamex86.so file, if someone recompiles in C while learning what to do, it may be a good chance at all.

also the reason of why people got into gaming dev in the 90's and knew C was because of Q1 and Q2, C and visual basic books were everywhere.

>>8683501
Sunder is a special one, a lot of its maps go very hard with detail and slaughter.

>>8682460
>waaah slaughtershit
Every single thread. Is this a same guy? Dude, just get over it.

>>8682460

Why does freedoom suck so bad?

Getting filtered by Scythe starting from MAP22 bros... all those UV 100% kill saveless pistol starts of all commercial iwads were for nothing...

>>8683749
Free software projects are liable to end up that way, often they're so focused on differentiating themselves from their closed/commercial equivalent, they forget they still kind of need to try and be decent and competitive.

They do stupid shit like removing the old gib sound (you know, the fucking cool one Kegan uses) and replacing it with a sound that is some dude having dialarhoea.

>>8683758
Sounds about right, lately they're wasting time going back and re-texturing old maps with some texture pack. Despite the actual replacement textures not even being finished.

>>8683772
Last I looked they were still trying to push to remove the severed head of RMS as their version of Romero's head.

>>8683781
why is he purple

>>8682460
Give recommendations for good level design in the commercial scene.
Prodeus springs to mind, whatever you think about the rest of the game.

>>8683804
He tried to use Gimp, never use Gimp.

>>8683804
because he's open source

>>8683847
I use gimp. It's fine. Could be better.

>>8683751
just keep playing, you'll get a lot better.

there's major depth to doom and many ways to git gud

Best Source Ports to use on Linux?

>>8683781
>trying to push
It was already merged, but the vastly superior revenant replacement sprites that have been sitting there since October (last March if you count the larger sprites. pic related) weren't, for some fucking reason, nor the dinosaur baron from January of 2020. I like a lot of the assets in Freedoom, but I don't think it will ever be coherent under its current leadership if they let high-quality submissions just sit there like this.

>>8683967
No fun allowed.

>>8683745
>actually thinking unironically that using a part from a Jack "shithead" Chick is an actual argument point
Ok buddy retard fool.

>>8683821
It ain't a commerical WAD but I think UAC Ultra has really good level and encounter design.
It's a bit too easy though. I have to play with Multiplayer monsters to have fun

Insanely good bundle up right now for anyone interested, pretty much every major modern retro FPS for $12.
https://www.humblebundle.com/games/best-boomer-shooters-bundle?partner=wario64

Romero's new map fucking sucks. I loved e1m8b and Sigil, didn't like e1m4b (but in its defense it was meant to prototype a different game), but this map is downright awful.

>>8683997
Another thing, he clearly didn't playtest it for Deathmatch. Lots of one-way doors where only one of the linedefs for them are usable, like e3m1.

>>8683991
I see that partner link you sneaky little rascal

>>8683821
Didn't Prodeus have a Doom mapper making some of the levels? I think it was Dragonfly or Skillsaw.

well that's just offensive.

>>8684010
I got it off his Twitter

>>8684030
>corporations turned a forced /v/ meme into their actual marketing slogan
do you think they even know?

>>8683821
My favorite 90s styled shooters of late have decent level design (Overload, Dusk, Ion) but I don’t think they’re all that much better than the Doom and Quake stuff I’ve been exposed to. I’m curious what “commercial” games that anon was referring to, it seems like he could be referring to the fact that the most popular ones (Ultrakill, new Dooms) are thoroughly linear.

>>8684039
1. In all likelihood they could have been the ones forcing it so they could make it seem like it was an organic buzzword or slogan
2. It didn't stop idthesda from coopting the doot meme for nudoom2.

>>8684030
Dude Hrot and Dread Templar aren't even fucking finished, what in the goddamn

>>8684054
SHUT UP AND BUY THE PRODUCT, GOYIM

>>8684051
Even if they didn't themselves, they sure have used influencers like Civvie to shill that shit for them.

What the fuck is wrong with American McGee and John Romero to troll us so hard with Thy Flesh Consumed map 1 and 2?
Fuck I can only beat map 1 with low health then map 2 smacks my bitch up.

>>8684054
>HROT
Is this dev Russian, too? If so, wouldn’t that really complicate things right now..?

>>8684086
It was made well after Doom 1, all while they were focusing on other projects at that time, and with the intent to be “way harder” than the other episodes.

>>8683991
got it for free, good
bought it on sale, shit
bought it on sale, decent
bought it at launch, probably good when finished
only played the demo but it's shit
only played the demo but it's shit
got it for free, remarkably shit
got it for free, pretty good
bought it on sale, mediocre
too short to bother with

yawn

>>8684021
Dragonfly. They look pretty good too.

>>8683902
like all of them work fine,just use the one you liked on windows.

Grrrr why won't this stupid shoot switch work. "On Projectile Impact" doesn't work for no identifiable reason, and even changing it to "when player presses use" doesn't work. This is just a switch it shouldn't be this difficult

>>8684090
he's Czech.
>>8683991
already have most of those,and id rather use steam,loonix support is too good.

>>8684124
is the sector correct?

>>8684128
As correct as it can get.
It's meant to be a trap, where the player walks into a room and the doors lock. A bunch of monsters spawn in and afterwards they need to shoot a switch on the other side of a pit to lower the bars. The trap literally would not work without the shootable switch which is why I don't just move it

>>8684125
>he's Czech
Cool news

>>8684125
Humblebundle gives you Steam keys for the games so they are added to your Steam library too

>>8684142
this actually made me consider it until i saw that 2 of the deals were a coupon for the game instead of the actual game
haha fuck no

>>8684131
Lol works for me.

>>8684142
wasn't sure that was still a thing.

>>8684131
Is the shootable switch a front facing linedef?

>>8684148
That's still $12 for 8 good games
$1.50 each
You're not getting that price on a sale and you can gift or sell the Steam keys for games you already have

That Sid Meier Bundle looks pretty good too

>>8684142
>Humble Bundle
I'd rather go with Itch.io or gamejolt.

>>8684179
Yeah, it's in the wall, facing where the player will be shooting at it

Just finished Blood's Cryptic Passage (and thus the last piece of official "Blood" content for Blood 1). Are there any good user episodes ?

Also goddddd damn, I want Ion Fury : Aftershock. And no, I don't think Shelly is boring etc etc so no need to give that crap here. I do think they could go a bit wilder with her (hehe) and their sci fi theme in general but yea.

>>8684283
The crown jewel of blood's mapping scene is death wish. After that, there's french meat 1 & 2, bloody pulp fiction, 500ml, fleshed out

>>8684303
>>8684283
Eviction is crazy good. Death Wish is pretty perfect but I think Eviction is the most detailed I’ve seen a Blood map get.

Anon from yesterday here >>8681756
Figured it all out
Basically you need to run spawnserver to actually get dhewm3s server to start
Similar thing with ioq3, you type in map q3dm1
Surprised no one knew this

FRIDAY NIGHT FIREFIGHT TIME BITCHES! Tonight we're fragging on Deathmatch Revival. Connect with Zandronum and get some frags!
51.161.34.159:10666

>>8681438
I think John Romero's wife is kind of a milf for sure. Hmm, nice!

>>8684358
>>8684303
iirc it was included in fresh supply?
no wonder it felt so "fangamey" despite being competently made

>>8684412
cant find vrsounds_v0.7.wad

>>8684435
It should download automatically. If wadseeker isn't working, you can download it manually here.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/868726838187413535/949414727371595916/vrsounds_v0.7.wad

>>8684425
>iirc it was included in fresh supply?
You’re quoting posts naming multiple map packs, and what are you saying anyways?

Whoever takes care of the mega should really add doom 3, it took way too fucking long to find a non-pozzed link that had the ISOs. The one on archive.org is bin/cue bullshit.

some new Deaf, Dumb screenshots

For the three people here who play on Linux, how do you launch the game? On Windows I used QZDL through Steam but that sadly does not seem to be an option now. I figured I could compile QZDL and use it on Linux but I thought it prudent to try something new.

>>8684493
it is stupid how good lookin the tex pack is.

>>8684494
Just terminal. I have simple bash scripts for certain mods that have longer load orders. QZDL does have Linux builds, though, they're included in the releases on the Github page.

>>8683821
Honestly, the kings of level design are John Romero for Doom and Allen H Blum for Duke Nukem 3D.

Both people managed to create such a cohesive and attractive style, which works perfectly with the games' visual and playstyle narratives. I'm glad Romero is still making maps, E1M4b and E1M8b were awesome, Sigil was awesome, and the new level was awesome.

Unfortunately Blum checked out, despite his Mirage Barrage and especially Golden Carnage levels are masterpieces.

The only other outstanding mapmakers I know were Russell Meakim and Arya Iwakura, who created No Rest for the Living. Wish they return one day.

Wtf, Perdition's Gate is really good. I'm 12 maps in and so far all maps were balanced for pistol-start, fun, decently challenging (I'd say it's just a tiny bit harder than TNT), some unique and nice graphics and music. How is it so underrated? Because it's not technically free or id approved?

Not related but I've also been playing Mass Extinction and that's also a really good .wad, even though map 14 forced me to fight multiple Cyberdemons in a trap-arena and map 15 forced me to Arch-Vile jump to get to the secret exit. Only to get to the super-secret level afterwards and get to fight dozens of archviles in a small arena. I see all of these as good things.
Having to learn Doom tricks to finish a .wad is nice when you don't have to do it every single map. Kinda like map26 in Scythe which was my introduction to slaughter gameplay.
Now I just need to learn how to two-shot Cybies, Arch-Vile jump and SR50 consistently.

>>8683997
>e1m4b (but in its defense it was meant to prototype a different game)
What? I've never heard of this. I love E1M4b though.

>>8684536
this post reeks of tourist

>>8684412
vrsounds 0.8 requests go here. Would love to get more /vr/ sounds in, but anything entertaining enough is welcome. We'd like to get 100 sounds in by 1.0.

>>8684536
I dont recall their name, but one of the NRFTL guys came back and made a new Doom level.

>>8682275
Does anyone pistol start Plutonia for fun or is it just a challenge thing? I got a few maps into it before destroying my keyboard in rage

>>8684497

>>8684602

>>8684597
It's a challenge thing for sure, especially if this is your first run through.

could someone please paste the contents of realrtcwdefault.cfg, as I deleted mine in a moment of idiocy. I thought it'd automatically be created when I started the game again... alas no. I don't want to download another 2 gig for a 2kb file I can just paste from somewhere. Thanks m8s

>>8684597
I pistol started Plutonia with Hard Doom.

>>8684571
It was Meakim, and his map was "Redemption of the Slain". He fixed the level last year, because originally it was made for Brutal Doom. It still needs GZDoom though.

I loved most of it, the spectre secret area was one of my favourite Doom moments ever. I found the bridge battle at the end a bit tedious on the other side.

>>8684613
ah I just made a blank one and it works again

>>8684607
>>8684602
I wonder how Sonic Mayhem looks with it

>>8683781
Wasn't Stallman fine having his digitized face impaled?

>>8684508
>QZDL does have Linux builds
I had to take a look at that. Apparently QZDL has to repositories with Iceferrum's being the one with binaries. Thank you though this has saved me the trouble of compiling.

>>8684597
Started playing plutonia (pistol start) and map 3 the gantlet, is kicking me while im down atm

GHOUL'S FOREST FRIDAYS

>>8684597
I do, it's relaxing.

Can any of you point me to some levels (any game is fine) that make rooms feel unique with a limited texture palette and/or limited decor? Levels that you probably won't get lost in despite their limited palettes/decor.

>>8684748
For me, it's DSP's Haunted Forest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCent_2q7ZE

>>8680881
i'm surprised the doom RL didn't look exactly like this at one point, lol.

the way it was meant to be played

>>8684869
>320x240
so close, and yet so far

>>8684869

>>8684889
Bro that's way too smooth to be the way it's meant to be played.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioaKVgsHo10

>>8684871
I was likely done to fix the pixel aspect ratio. A 320x200 screenshot displayed as square pixels looks squeezed compared to what it was back on an actual 4:3 monitor.

>>8684869
>3DO mode

>>8684570
>>>/wsg/4396192
Also, entirety of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krPH0cWIP5U

>>8685062
Welp, time to start splicing. Thanks anon.

>>8681305
>quickwall faggotman

>>8684748
Hosting? Love me some multiplayer Ghoul's Forest

Is there a mod that draws the BFG's tracers upon firing the BFG?

>>8682561
DSDA doom and Woof have the new complevel MBF21 in it that PrBoom+ lacks. That, and also Woof runs on hardware mode while keeping the software look that OpenGL messes up.

>>8682561
Unless you care about MBF21 or recording demos, you can still stick to PrBoom+.

What’s a good difficulty to start on if you’re new to Blood?

>>8685486
Lightly Broiled. Well Done is good for a second run. Extra Crispy is good if you hate yourself.

>>8685486
Extra Crispy

come draw doomfrens
https://aggie.io/5y70di1bmg

What's your opinion on dead-end side rooms that are entirely optional, like the server room maze in Doom E1M2?

>>8685486
why do you bait blood discussion every thread, pretending to be someone who's never played it before? is it like a mantra of some sort to calm your nerves? is it for us, because you know we're all itching to talk about it? are you a learning AI that just watched 5000 hours of heckin epic boomer shooter youtuber videos and learned how to solve a captcha?
regardless, extra crispy with well done enemy health. i find that blood is the only build game that has a "rhythm" to it, i.e. a set order of operations you abide by depending on circumstance in order to win, where you might get fucked if you miss a beat.
shadow warrior and duke give you enough health and ammo to fuck up, so you can basically play however you want, but also the enemies have less predictable audio cues, flinching mechanisms, and spawns, so they lack that "do the right thing to win, do the wrong thing and lose" flow that you get from extra crispy and well done.

>>8680430
https://aggie.io/5y70di1bmg

>>8685642
Cool if you're rewarded for it (armor, computer map, ammo cache). Lame and obnoxious if it's just a time sink.

>>8685642
Rooms like these make me seethe. Don't include them if they don't have a good reason to be there.

Are there any good Chex Quest WADs other than the official 3 episodes? I wouldn't mind one that actually required some effort, but it doesn't have to

>>8685642
These rooms should ALWAYS have both good stuff in them (chaingun + ammo + armor) AND secret even better stuff in them (Rocket Launcher + backpack + chainsaw) otherwise they are poop

Shoutout to anon who recommended Resurgence here a couple threads ago

>>8685705
There's a chex quest dbp from a few months ago

what a faggot, why are brits so fucking lazy
https://github.com/dhewm/dhewm3/issues/427#issuecomment-1030728819

>>8685707
That reminds me, last thread someone was asking for recommendations for WADs similar to Fractured Worlds and Abandon. I was range banned so I couldn't reply but to that anon- Play Occula, it's exactly what you're looking for. Maps by bemused and tourniquet. Damn fine.

What idtech3 or idtech4 game has the best multiplayer overall?
Quake 4? I know it's not updated but is the standard multiplayer the best until you get to something like Doom 4?

^ Obviously when I mean multiplayer, I mean the maps, weapons, network code, etc.

>>8685709
Thanks for telling me about this. I just started and I already like it more than the original chex quest. (even though it's missing a creative spark the main game had)

>>8685732
Best deathmatch? Quake 3 (Quake live)

Best multiplayer? Enemy Territory was the best available but it's truly gone now. I remember playing it in 2009 and having no idea I was experiencing something truly finite.

>>8685642
i think it's something that should be done more in fanmade maps

>>8685642
"my favorite shape is a line"

-someone who doesn't like the server room maze in doom e1m2

>>8685732
whichever has bunnyhopping, so not quake 3

>>8680434
[03-04] Chocolate Descent gets a beta release:
https://github.com/InsanityBringer/ChocolateDescent/releases/tag/v0.1-beta

>>8685642
you must ask yourself
>was it fun?
>does it look cool?
>does it make sense from an architectural standpoint?
>does it flesh out the theme of the map?
>do i have more supplies coming out than going in?
>am i a fucking retard?
if you answered yes to at least two of those questions, then there is no problem with exactly 1 (one) dumb side room per map
if the map has multiple dumb side rooms it's a piece of shit

>>8685729
I would also add Haste. Sure the maps are more like speedmaps than with those 3 mentioned wads, but it has the same authors (and Ribbiks + Insane_Gazebo on top of that).

>>8681715
I have to assume that the default door texture is a placeholder and that he intends to use some special art to signify exits, just like in Sigil.

>>8685643
Yet you always reply

>>8684086
E4M1 rules though

>>8684213
Can the projectile fit through into that indent?

>>8684648
Yes, probably saw it as the analogue that it was.

>>8685642
If it's fun and there's something in there to make it worth the player's time, I think they're good.

>>8685723
Artisanal Super Shotguns

Let's rate Romero's modern (post-2016) maps in a /10 scoring system:

E1M4b: 8/10
E1M8b: 10/10

E5M1: 7/10
E5M2: 9/10
E5M3: 8/10
E5M4: 9/10
E5M5: 10/10
E5M6: 10/10
E5M7: 10/10
E5M8: 7/10
E5M9: 6/10

One Humanity: 8/10

>>8685948
One humanity is the only doom 2 map he made?

>>8685967
Yeah. Gotta give him credit, he knows that DOOM is factually superior to DOOM 2.

>>8681305
>Romero left things around

>>8684086
I'm a Doomlet who's only finished the first 3 episodes and half of DOOM 2 on UV, and I'm struggling to make it through DOOM E4. Shit's brutal, but I have a feeling it doesn't even hold a candle to modern maps.

>>8685973
And DOOM 3 is the absolute pinnacle of the series.

>>8685975
I 100% killed all of commercial DOOM from pistol start except Master Levels (not touching that) and E4M1. I just can't save up enough ammo for that shit.

>>8683758
>>8683772
They should really start over and throw out the shit assets, bring back old cool ones they replaced for no reason, and then use new ones submitted to them which they haven't bothered implementing.
Also replace E4, because it's fucking Double Impact, and if I want to play Double Impact I'll just go play it, instead of the dumpy FreeDoom version.

>>8685896
Dude I'm pretty sure he's trying to use hitscan

I feel like the golden age of FPS ended with the release of Half-life

So you can't criticize Half-Life in the FPS general I guess. Anytime I do janny wipes it. Bizarre.

>>8686001
Does the linedef know that? I mean is he using the right linedef special.

>>8686045
He's using on projectile impact, which I'm pretty sure can detect hitscan. He said that the switch didn't work when he changed it to a normal activation, so it's obviously not that.
I can recreate his little scenario and it works perfect for me, so I don't know what the issue could be

>>8685976
lol

>>8685486
>>8685490
Best advice here

>>8686030
Because there's a mentally ill schizoposter who has been doing just that for years

>REKKR? More like SHREKKR, is it even an unofficially canonical fifth episode to DOOM? Does it even have layers within layers like an onion?

>>8686102
The only mentally ill one seems to be the terrified janny who lurks 24/7 to clean it up for free.

Is ROTT based or cringe?

>>8686132
The Golden Age heroes in the last panel are based

>>8683515
Gonna give it a go

>>8685976
If you turn the chart upside down

>>8686128
IDK why don't you play it and find out?

https://twitter.com/Bridgeburner4/status/1500018304643395584
elementalism phase 1 will go public in 4 hours as of posting this
>>8685976
yeah, specially the bfg edi-pffhahahahah
>>8686128
a little bit of both
>>8684869
doom for ants, when doomguy faces the protector drones from duke nukem
>>8683749
how come there's no other projects similar to freedoom?

>>8686305
>how come there's no other projects similar to freedoom?
There are; Blasphemer and Zauberer.

>>8685717
You do it then.
At least he gave a human answer and not just [no].

>>8686313
Never heard of Zauberer. What game does that replace, Hexen?

>>8685642
I think the amount of optional stuff is exactly what gives Doom 1 a certain charm thats missing in many pwads.

Finding nothing makes those times finding something even better.

THE OTHER GUY'S LATE AGAIN, SO NOW IT'S MY JOB TO TELL YOU THAT IT IS SCREENSHOT SATURDAY. WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? MAPS, MODS, SPRITES, POST IT

What would be the best sourceport / way to play Redneck Rampage? I own the game on Steam but the basic version is unplayable because you can't even rebind your keys (what the fuck Xatrix?) .
I googled and people were recommending RedNukem, is it a good sourceport? Also can I use my legit game files to run it ?

>>8686561
Decided to dip my toes into some fancy ZDoom stuff. This map isn't even close to finished yet, and it doesn't look like it but it's got two different routes you can take. They're divided by height and middle texture bridges and stuff. It's a pain in the ass but one of my best projects

>>8686564
BuildGDX worked fine last I checked.

>>8686484
looks like my mother-in-law

>>8686572
Looks promising.

>>8686305
>elementalism phase 1 will go public in 4 hours as of posting this
I've been waiting for this! The time has finally come

>>8686641
Thanks, anon. I struggle with detailing a lot, particularly in larger areas, but it's coming together pretty okay

>>8682460
i can only agree with the slaughtershit opinion, but i do agree with it
the rest of the post is shit

>>8680434
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/100102
Elementalism Phase 1 is out.

>>8686052
Try having the weapon fire a dummy bullet as well, for some reason i can never get projectiles to activate things that pulls so, so I see a lot of mods shoot a fake puff that's invisible and does 0 dmg in the same frame as the weapon fires.

Is there a good launcher for DSDA Doom? I'm too much of a brainlet to figure out command prompt shits.

>>8685975
A lot of modern maps are quite hard, but difficulty settings exist for a reason.
For what they are, E4M1 and E4M2 on UV are harder than many of Plutonia's maps on the same skill level, they're the hardest iD maps by far.

>>8686864
use a terminal instead.
id recommend bash,but dash and zsh can be good too

>>8686561
things are getting somewhat serious

>>8686864
https://github.com/Pedro-Beirao/dsda-launcher

>>8686624
Lucky

F1's okay. Kinda feels like Doom 2016's style of gameplay. Walk around, get into an encounter, rinse and repeat until the end. Some of them hit, a lot of them miss. The ones that did hit, however, were very good. I especially liked the end encounter with the turreted revenants and not-archviles while the room got flooded with pinkies and a few pain elementals. Not really a fan of Doom's low res sprites walking around in a world full of HD textures but that's a very opinionated subject so whatever.

>>8681424
Kind of a shame covid fucked them. Then again even with no covid they dont seem to have the structure to handle shit.

New blood seems more consistent.

Nailbomb is a interesting map, 2nd map has no soundtrack because there is a loop of The Thing That Should Not Be and previously psalm 69 by ministry

>>8686921
>bridge burner
based malazanchad

Heh, I guess F1 was just supposed to not make the player too discouraged, cause F2 wastes no time and has danger coming at you from every corner from the start and I love it. I'm gonna be here a while.

Someone upload the pk4 for Resurrection of Evil pls or gib link if it's already uploaded somewhere
I didn't find it in the mega links

lol, lmao
How about fixing your janky-ass engine so that mods are actually playable without glitches?
Maybe if people were less frustrated with the state of Quake engines there would be less invasions.

>>8686968
>Maybe if people were less frustrated with the state of Quake engines there would be less invasions
lmao

>>8686968
it's funny because it's so true how young male frustration at the world is basically going to destroy everything, all because some dumb idiots decided to let roasties manage their own wombs

Just download the Commercial Compilations folder. Is there anything actually good in here? I opened a few wads and it's basically less-than-amateur '94 trash compared to anything else available nowadays.

>>8686946
>bruiser demon
Please don't tell me, that those are the same overpowered ones from Torm's wads.

>>8686968
What is this? Default player colors to blue and yellow?

Gonna stop blogposting after this, but I just wanted to take time to appreciate this encounter. Feels like something out of a skillsaw wad.
>>8687060
They are. They go down more easily here though so it's not so bad.

>>8687069
What wad btw?

>>8687068
Who knows.

>>8687074
Elementalism. Just came out like an hour ago. It uses GZDoom's visual bells and whistles really heavily though so you might have trouble running it.

>>8687085
I love this palette so fucking much, but I think I'd trade one of purple/magenta for a livelier green (or just make light green more saturated). Red should be brighter too without going into fullbright territory (the last 2 rows).
But I think green was the biggest loser here, and most of them are just too dark and break down when overbright.

>>8686976
Nah. It's mostly there for posterity's sake.

Just like Doom, Quake had a series of unusually aggressive randomized messages that display when the player tries to quit. Unlike Doom most Quake sourceports do not show them for some reason. Here they are.

>>8687387
>Press N to stay proud and successful!
haha

>>8687387
Quake also has a demo reel play but that is disabled by default in Quakespasm and several other sourceports.

>>8686865
I also found E4M1 and E4M2 harder than Sigil, Romero's KDITD style level or his new Doom 2 level.

>tfw I spent nights awake modifying other people's WADs because they feel incomplete or replace things I don't want to be replaced
>tfw I made several dehacked patches for level names
>tfw I fixed the status bar and removed custom imps from Eternal Doom
>tfw I made a title pic and shitty m_doom for Mano Laikas
>tfw I made a wad that just replaces the Heretic Shadow of The Serpent Riders title pic with the OG heretic one
>tfw planning on learning how to convert/ rewrite copyrighted music as MIDI just because I found a song that I thought would fit a wad without a title song
>tfw I will never ever release them, both because of permissions issue and also because I'm insecure of the quality of my work
Why am I so autistic?