/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8551250
It is undeniably the solution, hardware withers

FPGA seems cool. Emulation at a hardware level to have a cycle accurate version will always be as close as we can get to original hardware.

There's something pure and wholesome about it. It isn't full of greedy fags.

Are there even any true LLE emulators for fifth gen upwards?

But is it possible to truly emulate Sega SOUL?
Some things are beyond human comprehension

>>8551268
>It isn't full of greedy fags.
then why are bitstreams proprietary

I think that software emulation is a good solution in many cases, but sometimes things like FPGAs work better.
Original hardware will always give you the proper experience, but a game generally doesn't have to be tied to it to be a playable experience.

There's a lot of subjectivity to this, some will hook up a controller to their computer and run an emulator, others will get a flashcart or something like that and not have to pay prospector prices for games (be they common or actually rare). Assuming they focus on their games, and the games are good, both will have a good time.

>>8551250
Emulation is the way because these old consoles are eventually gonna die out, or there at least isnt going to be enough for everyone. The point of playing a video game at the end of the day is to have fun, not obsess over every tiny detail for a game you may not even actually like that much.

>>8551297
That doesn't address why there are people who ardently try to push people towards adopting emulation over original hardware.

>>8551250
Reicast is outdated you bozo, use redream or Flycast.

>>8551250
>>8551318
reicast, more like gaycast amirite

>>8551297
>Emulation is the way because these old consoles are eventually gonna die out
That depends. 16-bit and earlier is generally pretty easy to work on and fix, doesn't take much to be careful with them and just replacing caps, batteries, and pin connectors goes a long way, caps is something you'd need to replace every 30 years at most, batteries can last more than 20 years, and pin connectors would need to be replaced because of physical damage, and since you're an adult who knows how to be careful, this would generally only be done to damaged examples and then those new pins will be perfectly good for the rest of your life.

It doesn't take much to maintain or even repair a Gameboy or Genesis. Maybe not everyone has the tools and knowhow to do it, but it's not exactly complex or backbreaking labor, there's gonna remain people who'll be able to do it as a service because it's easy and it's well worth it for enthusiasts (which those kinds of guys will probably be themselves). 3D printing will probably help make things like these easier, allowing for the replacement of broken plastic parts.

Now, there's other questions of course, like not having lots of input lag with modern displays and what not, and stuff like old lightgun games not jiving with flat screens, but there's solutions for reducing the former, and probably the latter can be solved too. More advanced hardware than 4th gen will also be more complex.

>The point of playing a video game at the end of the day is to have fun
>not obsess over every tiny detail for a game
Sure, but at the same time it's not the most fun to play one of your favorite games and the sound is completely off or something doesn't work like it should.

>>8551318
>need a picture comparing emulation to hardware just so I have a topical image for my thread
>somehow that means I'm asking about the viability of the emulator pictured

Are you even capable of feeding yourself?

>>8551309
Some people are really aggressively divisive over the subject, and i don't really see why.

>>8551250

>>8551319

>>8551309
no one does this

>>8551250
It is a solution. Old consoles require a lot of repair, space, an old TV, and actual games (unless you hack them or use Everdrive), controllers can be a problem too (I use my arcade stick to play a ton of 2D stuff). It's a lot of hassle for someone who just wants to boot up an old game and play.

>>8551250
I play games for fun.

>>8551309
More people prefer emulation = The faster the emulators even get better
Emulators will be the only things left one day, both software and FPGA based, the sooner more people support it, the sooner you'll enjoy it more and more.

>>8551253
Not if you maintain it.

>>8551448
>>8551498

>>8551273
Yeah, both PSX and Saturn has both.
N64 doesn't seem to have any functional LLE emulators sadly.

It's sixth gen where LLE gets thrown out the window, but for Gamecube and Xbox it's not really needed.
PS2 and Dreamcast would really need it though since neither their CPUs nor GPUs are really standards compliant, for example they use a different floating point number spec or the DC uses deferred rendering which fucks up z-sorting and uses order-independent transparency (iirc PC GPUs couldn't do that last until DX11). So you can do HLE for both but you have to go through a shitload of hoops.

>>8551448
You must be blind or someone who does this.

Nevermind hardware.

People expire! Each person who cared about this stuff will last 100 years tops. When they go so to will their knowledge. Teaching your children how to play and maintain retro games will go much longer way towards their preservation. By the year 2100 all of this will be forgotten memories.

>>8551250
dreamcast emulation has tons of input lag.

>>8551250
yes
both can be true,on one hand,for the extreme long term,its the only viable solution,it also puts these games into the hands of newer generations.
a bit of soul is lost,but the preservation and enhancement is more important,it may be more cozy to slot a cartage in,but playing the game with PC level enhancements is better overall.

BUT,it is also nice to see collector fags seethe when the game they bought for 70$ is played for free,with almost everything about it being enhanced.
>>8551287
FPGA is emulation,just done on dedicated hardware with no real OS afaik.
>>8551664
that is why emulation getting these games into newer hands is so important.

>>8551617
Saturn emulation is worse than n64s. Much of it is guesses, estimation and hacks.

>>8551250
I'd say that emulation is ideal for console games for the most part, aside from ones that rely heavily on some odd hardware quirk or a gimmick that can't work with modern hardware like lightguns, and even then updates and modern alternatives could be made to fix those problems.
For handheld titles however which tend to have more hardware specific gimmicks, I feel that in some cases it's better to go with the original hardware, depending on how significant the gimmicks are in the system's titles.

>>8551250
original hardware is best, but fuck retro game collection. if you can get every retro console running ROMs off of SD card that's the way.
sadly it's not that simple for most consoles

>>8551664
great argument for emulation

>>8551528
You can't maintain it forever. All hardware will eventually die.

>>8551873
Yeah but has that happened yet?

The problem I have is this rush to just throw everything out as soon as possible and cut over to emulation immediately. Like any time spent playing original hardware is just wasted time and you should be playing on your PC or an FPGA solution ASAP.

>>8551873
Depends on the hardware and its level of maintenance, but most likely we will die first.

>>8551873
Take good care of it and it will outlive all of us.

>>8551892
lol are you autistic? The real reason people use emulation is because its efficient and nobody wants to spend money on this shit. It advertises itself

>>8551873
>replace capacitor on console
>don't have to replace it for another 30 years
>probably don't need to do anything else to the console either

In a 100 years all your precious family photos and movies will be completely worthless to the people who inherited them at one point. Everything is meaningless.

>>8552113
Nihilists are bitches.

>>8551250
both have pros and cons, we will eventually manage to reproduce the hardware, technology and prices are not there yet, just a matter of time, we have plenty autism

>>8552145
we also have plenty of time to tailor emulators to every single game
if the sun doesn't go micronova in 24 years

it boils down to this

emulation is inclusive.

original hardware is exclusive.

>>8552203
Or rather, emulation is easy to see if you like it. If so you can then upgrade to real hardware.

>>8551981
People just like free shit, especially when they feel like they are being unjustly denied something.

>>8552203
Good. I don't want you here.

>>8552216
still exclusive, there is a limited number available of "real hardware".

so if you care about retro gaming you support emulation.

>>8552231
Emulation has existed for 25 years and will go on regardless, so I don’t really care either way. It’s just a tool.

>>8551268
Is there noticeable difference between FPGA and software?
Like could you show someone footage of a game running on FPGA and software and having them point out which one?

Maybe not ubiquitous, but sufficient for my goals.

>>8552231
Of your content with the emulator experience why bother with more?
I enjoy real hardware way more, the emulating the experience on a pc/pi/mister.

>>8552260
nothing wrong with that. you enjoy whatever you enjoy.

but you can't say you like retro gaming if you don't support emulation.

>>8552203
I fail to see how that is my problem.

>>8552113
It matters to me, anyway.

>>8551859
softmodding is pretty easy for most of 6th gens at this point. for 5th gen you have ODEs or just burning games which I personally don't mind doing, since discs are cheap and the entire library could fit on a laptop and you can just burn a copy of whatever you haven't already whenever you need it.
everything else is emulated well enough on Wii that I don't even care about original hardware. I can't even tell the difference playing something thru snes9x on my old TV vs an actual SNES other than the controller Im holding. even 5th gen is emulated pretty well on 6th gen consoles outside of certain games. my softmodded Wii covers probably 80% of my retro gaymen

>>8552113
No they won't nigger. I look at family photos from over 100 years ago, even nearly 200 years ago.
Not all of us come from the third world and have well kept family history dating back several centuries before even photography

>>8551250
What’s the difference?

>>8552094
What if the capacitor has already started leaking acid onto your PCB before you even knew it was a problem to begin with?

>>8552625
Damage can happen that way, but it's preventable.

>>8552850
The problem is by the time most normies realize anything is wrong with their console, the capacitors have probably already leaked their contents onto the board and the console is beyond saving. Unless you're a tech geek you really shouldn't bother with original hardware.

>>8552871
All machines and electronics need maintenance over time. If people care enough to buy old systems then they should at least know somebody who can repair them if necessary. Or maybe they don’t care, in the long run.

>>8552891
I still see SNES and N64s in random people's houses to this day, people who are almost totally clueless when it comes to hardware. I doubt they even know the console is capable of leaking acid over time.

>>8552217
>People just like free shit
The amount of people that want to play Dreamcast games is greater than the amount of working Dreamcasts, dumbass.
I fucking hate you people so much.

>>8552360
I hate burning discs

>>8551807
>Saturn emulation is worse than n64s. Much of it is guesses, estimation and hacks.

Nah. practically the entire system is documented down heavily, the only thing that does some random things is the DSP, and that affects two games (VF and Remix). Even the SH1 boot rom has been dumped. The only thing to test are instruction timings, but there's no way to get those accurately due to missed refresh cycles on the SDRAM.

>>8552891
>>8552871
Well like >>8551325 said, there's always going to be hobbyists and techies around that'll be able to fix them.

>>8553049
>hobbyists
Enthusiasts, rather.

>>8552940
Well, that makes sense, given that the platform has had 20 years of exposure to the world and Youtube, time in which it has developed a mythology and many more people have come to learn about it. Which is the same reason retro games are now so expensive.

The best argument in favor of downloading games and emulating them is that the rights holders of these games are mostly absolutely shit at rereleasing them.

I am proud to have shepherded my Sega Saturn since childhood to the present day in working condition and you can't take that away from me no matter how much you insist that it's just a waste of space and is more useful to me sold on the second-hand market.

>>8551617
Wut? There's full LLE RSP and RDP emulation for N64 already.

Emulation will NEVER work as flawlessly as legacy hardware, specially not software emulation. Emulation isn't perfect shouldn't be seen as a replacement to legacy hardware but an addition to it.

>>8554061
Can you actually tell the ones with all DLCs included apart (GOTY edition, Collector's edition) or is it like the Spyro shit where you have to check the copyright year?

Emulation will NEVER work as flawlessly as legacy hardware, specially not software emulation. Emulation isn't perfect shouldn't be seen as a replacement to legacy hardware but an addition to it.

>>8554117
Cycle accurate and pixel accurate emulation exists and will undoubtly be the replacement to some dude 100 years from now instead of paying 10,000 on an old console and TV.

>>8554117
What a retarded argument.
>oh my god it's not ACCURATE! if you illegally hold U+D simultaneously on the d-pad in a frame perfect window in a glitched area of this obscure shitty game no one ever played, the screen will flash red in 1 pixel on real hardware but blue on an emulator! SCREEEEEEE!!!
kill yourself hardwarecuck
"real hardware" is an utterly pointless masturbation toy
you don't care about games or the experience they give you, you only care about the worth ownership of product gives your meaningless existence

>>8551250
I like emulation because it makes games more accessible. I know it will probably never be 100% accurate to the original hardware, but I'd rather be able to play a simulacrum than not be able to play it at all. Accessibility is especially important now, since the secondary market for hardware has become too expensive for most people.

>>8551268
MISTer fag strikes.... AGAIN.

I feel like the screams of accuracy are usually about the most pointless shit. I agree emulation for some systems is not up to par though.

Emulation, 100%, and this comes from someone who has some original hardware.

The number of functioning original hardware approaches zero as time goes on. All these "hurr just maintain it" preachers don't account for a number of situations beyond their control that would see their beloved systems destroyed. Emulation is the most effective way of keeping the games functional and able to be enjoyed by all. Anyone who disagrees is a gatekeeping weeb.

>>8554293
>If I watch a playthrough on twitch or Youtube its just like playing the game guys. No need for hardware, you can watch it on your phone

>>8554117
Even I, as someone who doesn't comprehend why people are so manically against using original hardware ever, am aware of bsnes as a cycle-accurate emulator.

>>8551250
Yes, in 60 years when my grandchildren look up to me and ask to have the true Drill Dozer experience , I'm not going to tell them to fuck off to the single shop down some alleyway in Tokyo that still sells homemade GBA cartridges with rumble paks.

>>8554767
I would, adventure is good for the soul. It can be their master quest.

>>8554117
You could put a bsnes booter inside a real SNES console and no one would notice any difference from the real machine, very few emulators are that accurate but its true.

>>8551309
Do you have the tech to replicate original console hardware anon?

emulation is great but I'm weary of it as too many times I'll play a game for the first time and get an incorrect impression of it due to some fundamental difference behind the emulation vs original hardware

for example I was convinced F-Zero GX was an unplayable mess that controlled like shit until I played it on actual hardware and realized that on dolphin the sensitivity is like twice what it's supposed to be. I had no clue that something was wrong because I didn't have the original to compare it to so I just thought the game controlled like ass

>>8554832
If the right FPGA solution came along, sure.

An FPGA PS2 would be amazing but it's probably never happening.

Personally I like maintaining old hardware as long as I know what I'm doing.

I'd be able to maintain a lot more older hardware if I just had the confidence to learn how to solder...

>>8552940
Good, gatekeeping is good

>>8554880
Who do you want to gatekeep out?

>>8554884
Anyone who is unable to put in the minimum of effort.

>>8554848
>if I just had the confidence to learn how to solder...
Soldering is piss easy anon.
First own an iron, solder, flux, and a solder remover like soldering braid.
Next find an old and busted electronic in the dumpster. Take out any old board and practice soldering and unsoldering things to it. (Hint: things stick to the copper bits easily, but you'll need flux for the silver things.) You'll be fully confident in like ten or twenty minutes.
Later if you need help with a specific aspect of your repair then post a photo here or on Reddit or somewhere and a flock of nerds will come to help your dumb ass.

>>8554880
this post reeks of underage redittor and hipster

>>8551309
This is 4chan m8, of course people are going to be aggressive in arguing for their preferred approach to anything

>>8552940
The amount of people who want to be billionaires is greater than the amount of billion dollar fortunes. That's life, doesn't mean you get to start counterfeiting money because you feel entitled to whatever you want.

>>8554894
>underaged redditor
no
>hipster
probably
I'm a 4chan man through and through

>>8554779
>>8554714
>>8554293
>>8554280
My point is that backwards compatibility always has issues with certain games and thus isn't perfect. For example, some PSX games won't work properly on PS2/PS3, and the xbox 360/one is only BC with certain OG xbox games.

>>8555045
Depending on the model the BC is very high on PS2, same with the PS3.

>>8554903
>This is 4chan m8, of course people are going to be aggressive
anonymous shitcock phenomenon

>>8555396
Is that also the root of soiposting?

>>8551250
Old consoles won't last forever.

>>8554908
Emulation and pirating out of print games doesn't drive down the value of the real thing like counterfeit currency does, dumbass.

>>8556885
Actually yeah it does, at least in the collector's market, but that's seen as a good thing.

>>8556968
Well that's debatable but having an unsellable, infinitely available resource (ROMs) will not significantly cut into the collector market any more than it would for comic books or movies.

>>8554480
Not to mention how only so many people can own old systems. In another decade, some systems will be very hard to find.
Plus, you gotta store that shit somewhere.
It gets reallly annoying having to find space for all of it.

>>8551250
>Do you truly believe that emulation is an ubiquitous solution for retro gaming and original hardware is an empty venture

Until all emulation is perfected, then no. But I also don't believe there's no merit in emulation. I think original hardware is the best way to play, but not if you actually have to buy the games themselves, especially at the current market prices. Flashcarts will absolutely suffice, the best ones are just like playing on real hardware.

But flashcart equivalents don't exist for everything as far as I'm aware, and for that, i'm fine with emulation. And if emulation sucks, I just won't bother. My backlog is long enough as it is anyway.

>>8551528
Yeah dude let's just buy and maintain an entire fucking arcade cabinet just for one game.

>>8551250
>screenshot comparing two completely different shots
This is bait.

>>8557296
The lack of soul in Reicast is readily apparent. it's inability to reproduce Sega Blue is a death knell to the emu community.

>>8557194
you'd better not, you clearly don't give a shit

>>8556968
The lack of emulation would have a more significant impact on gaming culture and awareness of franchises than some jerkoffs more interested in hoarding things they'll never touch.

>>8557374
>hoarding
the point these threads make over and over is that what games what people own is completely immaterial when you can download in an hour or two more roms than you could ever play in an entire lifetime. yet people are still salty about people owning things

>>8557194
Then fucking don't, you dipshit, some people are very much interested in doing that, you don't have to be one of them.

>>8551250
Dog I just want people to know they can actually still play their games when they think their options are more limited. Anything past that is a big waste of time; if someone wants to fight you on it they're not going to emulate no matter what.

>>8557559
Congratulations, you now realize why emulation is important. I hope you also realize why you're a goddamn fucking retard.

Imagine if the only way to watch any movie not currently in cinemas was to track down an old film print of it that you would then put onto your very own (and expensive) film projector at home. If that was the only way to watch a movie older than a couple of months then the reach of film as a medium would be incredibly limited. Home video (VHS, DVD, BD) are all essentially film "emulation". They didn't start off perfect, but with each generational iteration we get closer to 1:1 with the original theatrical print. The same goes for games and emulation. Just because you weren't alive when a game was new and plentiful in your local game store doesn't mean you should have to track down a used copy on eBay and pay some jew $500 for the UBER RARE Mario and Duck Hunt cart with a peeling label.

>>8557801
This is the best post on the subject ive read.

It's honestly the fault of the game companies for being prideful, inept fucks. Absolutely NOTHING is stopping them from creating their own emulators for their old system, opening their own ROM store service, and selling ROMs like its Steam. Or hell they could just sell ROMs, they dont even need to make emulators. I bet tons of people would pay for that just for the convenience.

Imagine if film makers never licensed rights for DVDs or VHS tapes to anyone ever, and then sued the people who tried to make unlicensed tapes once the movies stopped showing in the theatres. That's the reality of retro gaming.

>>8557816
Thank you. This video paints a pretty good picture on the preservation of movies vs games.
https://youtu.be/HLWY7fCXUwE?t=1528

>>8557648
>emulation is important because I want to have a wank at an arcade game for 5 minutes before I get bored and move to something else
You’re not making the best case for it, but I’m not gonna stop you

>>8557816
>Imagine if film makers never licensed rights for DVDs or VHS tapes to anyone ever, and then sued the people who tried to make unlicensed tapes once the movies stopped showing in the theatres. That's the reality of retro gaming.
/thread

>>8552251
There are a few arcade platforms where that is the case. That said you can also find a few discrepancies between FPGA recreations of those and original PCBs.

>>8554893
Imagine actually using flux, what a faggot

>>8557924
Flux makes it easy. I highly recommend beginners to drown things in flux. With flux and high quality solder you can't go wrong.

I've been using my snes mini as an emulation machine on crt but I've been wondering, is there any good options for making a simple emulation machine thats stronger? I'd want it to be pretty small if possible, is there a new pi or alternative that has great performance? Would a homebrewed Wii be the best choice? Main consoles are SNES, Genesis, Neo Geo, TurboGrafx16, CP System II, PS1, PS2, and Wii.

>>8554848
I also like keeping around the old hardware, but I don't like having to set everything up every time I want to play.

>>8557801
I see your main point and I agree with it, but...
>They didn't start off perfect, but with each generational iteration we get closer to 1:1 with the original theatrical print
... this is HEAVILY debatable and varies quite wildly, there are good releases of movies and bad releases of movies. Sometimes an older release is better, it took like 10 years for this sorry slaughter of Predator to be replaced with one that doesn't look like an infected anal prolapse.

>>8558227
Wii will fail you for PS2 and PS1 - for those other systems it may be good enough.

Raspberry Pi supports 240p composite out of the box but IDK how well software support for it is. There's also rgb-pi.

>>8557840
>I want to play a game for free without having to fix shit every week as the silicone literally starts to break down and circuitboard is being eaten away by the atmosphere
ye cunt

>>8557374
Look, assface, I TRIED Panzer Dragoon Saga, I just don't like it as much as I thought I would.

>>8558257
Oh believe me I know. I could go on for hours about the color correction nightmare of the various releases of Star Wars or how awful most of the home releases of Dragon Ball Z are. I guess I should've put a disclaimer that I wasn't making a blanket statement that applies to everything. This is all down of course to whoever is handling the remastering and what kind of dumb decisions they might make. All I'm trying to say is that BD is objectively higher resolution and therefore has the POTENTIAL of recreating the original film print than DVD or VHS.

>>8551250
Both.

Do you still respect CRT displays or are those unnecessary to have too?

>>8558258
haven't heard of rgb pi but I'll try looking around, might give me a reason to use my 3d printer again.

>>8558570
I use a sony trinitron crt monitor to play retro games, usually. I plug my modded snes classic into it with a hdmi to vga adapter that has an aux cable that I plug into a cheap radio to play the audio through.

>>8557881
Good post, should be echoed frequently

>>8558384
>I want to play a game for free
could have stopped right there

>>8557924
Imagine larping like you’ve ever worked with SMT soldering.

>>8551250
It's the only permanent solution.

>why not buy modern digital copies?
A lot of games don't get that treatment because the IP holders hold them hostage for whatever reason and refuse to reissue the game, either that or they release a bastardized "remastered" version that doesn't look or play like it's supposed to. Also many games have lost source code which means hardware emulation is the only possibility for the game to be ported to modern hardware, which carries its own can of copyright faggotry that would prevent them from seeing the light of day in most cases.

>>8557816
>Imagine if film makers never licensed rights for DVDs or VHS tapes to anyone ever, and then sued the people who tried to make unlicensed tapes once the movies stopped showing in the theatres. That's the reality of retro gaming.
Except retro games did have physical releases, you're just too poor and entitled to buy them

>>8559156
Rights holders for games are generally shit at rereleasing them the way old movies are released on new formats.

>>8559191
There is a world of difference to distributing film digitally and taking a video game made to be played on specific obsolete hardware and making it (kinda) work on modern systems for a limited audience that isn't interested in paying premium prices for the "restoration" work.

>>8559156
> a guy who finds a wallet and flashes his cash at all the "poor" people he passed along the way.

Nigger behavior

>>8559027
Shin Megami Tensei soldering?

>>8560682
surface mount technology

>>8559156
Physical releases that you can't run on modern hardware and that aren't being produced anymore or being sold in stores.

Go to wal mart and tell me how many DVDs of 90s movies you see on the shelves, there's tons. But you won't find any games from the 90s. Do you see the problem?

I'm not saying movie preservation is by any means perfect or even good but its far better than the situation gaming is in.

>>8560709
I kinda want a poin-to-point wired all discreet SNES now, imagine the SOUL!

>>8560713
He's just some yungster baiting. Ignore him.

>>8551448
It happens to me a lot, but it’s more genuine curiosity rather than people attempting to be dicks - “instead of spending $80 on a copy of Castlevania: Bloodlines, why not just emulate?”

Truth be told I love emulating and original hardware and both have their avid fans. I think mostly everyone agrees that emulating is great for the hobby because it gives people who couldn’t afford certain games the chance to play them now. You shouldn’t collect games that mean nothing to you or that you’re blind to, so emulating is a great way to save tons of money. I’ve probably met one person who was being a dick in regards to emulation > original hardware but as long as you collect with leftover cash you should be fine.

>>8561231
This is true, but
>Adblock Browser
Absolutely disgusting, retarded and cringe

>>8551250
>and original hardware is an empty venture
Pretty much. Retro consoles were designed to output at 240p and 480p for later consoles. This looks absolutely fine on a CRT but the problem is CRTs are being destroyed left right and center as people dump them on the street and not everyone wants a big heavy box that takes up more space than a modern display.

Shit like upscalers are an answer, but they're an expensive answer to a problem emulation already solves for free. I could buy an OSSC, buy an expensive high quality SCART/Component cable and play my SNES on a HD TV or I could just chuck an emulator on something like my Shield TV and not only does it look nicer, but couch co-op is just as easy to set up.

Another solution is installing HDMI mods to older consoles but again, it's expensive and effectively destroys hardware instead of preserving.

Don't get me wrong, I love original hardware but as emulation gets better there's really little reason to use it beyond the novelty of it and half of the fags who swear by hardware buy a flashcart which removes most of the novelty anyway.

>>8561231
Absoutely nailed it.

>>8561219
I bought castlevania bloodlines for $150

>>8561231
The literal opposite of this rings true to the point where I thought it was actually a jab at people who play on real hardware for a second.
No one who emulates is envious about real hardware and it's people who play on real hardware that devalue emulation by saying it's soulless, missing the novelty or just 'not right'. The only thing emulator users can say is "enjoy your yellowing plastic lmao" to poke fun at people who exclusively use real hardware.

>>8561569
Emubabies are deluded to an absurd degree.

>>8561231
>>8561569
>X vs Y
why?

>>8561569
Try not to overdose on your copium

>>8554834
This but Ocarina of Time

>>8561573
>>8561587
>has to reply twice to feel better about being wrong on a board that moves slow
>Literally nothing to refute my point, just lol cope
>deletes his posts anyway.
Lmfao.

Emulation is undeniably the future, however that is no reason to not enjoy original hardware or at least CRTs as their own hobby. Eventually all the classic cars will be dead or in museums but retro cars are still bought, sold, and repaired every year. Clearly a new car made to look like an old car will be the only option far enough in the future but for now those who can enjoy an old car can still enjoy them for their own merits.

>>8562002
This is the right attitude but you can't expect 4chan to heed that, no sir.

>>8562002
I agree. However, I need a Nintendo 64 gamepad for at very least emulating, cannot have any other analog stick for games like those.
I'm not gonna settle for the Hori, I'm not gonna get that Krikz trash or a Gamecube analog stick.

>>8562024
Bloody you.