/vr/ - Retro Games

I'm buying two because I'm not a retard. In 5-10 years FPGA will be the way to go for anyone who's not a poorfag. The accuracy of real hardware without the same hardware limitations, literally a no brainer. This is the first FPGA handheld ever to boot.

>>8416232
It's to sell to marks who live in a bubble and consume to fill a void in their life, the actual quality doesn't matter, the word of mouth on the interner is all that matters and they have that covered. This is just the current big hype, after this releases people will move on to the next thing and maybe this will stay a thing with the niche until it's buried by many others pieces of junk.

>>8416232
I've bought an NT Mini, NT Mini Noir, Super NT, Mega SG and a Pocket from Analogue. Nice to meet you.

>>8416325
In 5-10 years even the poorfags will be able to afford it.

>>8416325
You don't know shit about flipping or aftermarket prices, 5-10 years is gonna be the sweet spot where the product is too cheap and worthless to sell full price and not old enough to be rare and valuable, it'll sell not even for half its value. Plus more imitators will be on the market by then anyway.

And before anybody says it, no I'm not defending flipping, just pointing out he's an idiot.

>>8416232
There's apparently this discord group that has been the root cause of the current wave of tech scalping.

>>8416419
Somebody needs to put that platform out of its misery yesterday.

just don't buy from scalpers.

>>8416325
>I'm buying two because I'm not a retard
Kek

>>8416232
It's /vr/, it's not about money, it's about niche and rarity, it's part of the very fundamentals of this "hobby".
Get it now?

>>8416232
>(if any)
Kek, I love suttle /vr/ bait.

>>8416232
>equating scalpers on eBay to the company
You’re a fucking retard that’s for sure

>>8416232
Based for shitting on car dealerships. Fuck em.
Also, fuck them for preordering this shit during a work hours every time.

>>8416325
Musssst coomleect. Ohhh yisss

>>8416325
Whats going to happen when Pocket 1.0 is inferior to newer versions and nobody wants it in 5-10 years?

Retroarch on a top of the line phone with a controller attached > better than this hand cramping shit with more options for games to play and entertainment

>>8416325
In 5 to 10 years, there will be another product.

>>8416232
Another /vr/ autist who doesn’t understand how the world works. This product has a niche but lucrative market: late gen x, millennial, and early zoomer manchildren in their mid 20s to mid 40s who have lots of cash to spend, want to play their childhood games, and realize that the original consoles had screens that were dogshit by modern standards. I’ve put thousands of hours into my gameboys, but I literally can’t play them anymore because the screens are unlit and low quality. Not even my GBA SP, which has a backlit screen but its washed out and ugly. The analogue pocket is a luxury good that I can afford. The other analogue products have HDMI out and new flagship TVs only have HDMI inputs.

>>8417506
>GBA SP, which has a backlit screen but its washed out and ugly.
Unless you got one of the ones released after the DS came out, it's actually front lit.

>>8417548
Your right, I forgot thats actually the reason it looks even worse. We complain about IPS backlight bleed but jeez the SP had ridiculously bright edges. Honestly i forgot front lit screens even existed

>>8417506
Dud3 you are gay. They put like 200 for pre-order up at like 2pm est and you never see anyone with them. You know what I think? I think they don't exist. I'm not fuckin putting in a pre-order pre-order 2023 who the fuck are they kidding. Am I a fuckin??? Bank?? Givin out loans?? Suck my dick. With that much money you can get yourself a nice sp anyways. How many people need an easy way to stream a legit copy of trip world fuuuck it's so fuckin gheeeeyy

>>8417561
>I think they don't exist
I got a shipping notification today and it says it should be here on wednesday

>>8417570
Enjoy your adult gameboy anon.

>>8417579
thank you anon I appreciate it, I've been looking forward to it for awhile

>>8417570
Ok metal Jesus rocks. Smdh

>>8417557
Yeah thankfully front lit screens never took off. I can't think of any product outside of the sp that even used one

>>8417506
Even if you are lazy and have the money wouldn't an actual GBA pre modded with a new screen and a flashcart run about the same price if you look around?

>>8416232
Scarcity is a marketing strategy you do at the beginning to create the hype, later you want to sell and follow demand.
Something Analogue fail to do, why ? I don't think they are stupid enough to miss the opportunity, so maybe it has to do something with their partner charged of manufacturing their products in China, since currently they are the only company doing this ( using fpga to create retro clone console) maybe they were not able to find a manufacturer that can produce way more in a shorter time, after all it remains a small company doing niche products, priority wise in the business they must be low.
And even when it comes to the parts, like fpga chips, it's not like they are as much common as parts of ... dunno the one you can find on a raspberry pi.

So if you take this all in account, it's probably Analogue the most frustrated in the story, they know there is way more money to make but they can't do it due to circumstances.

>>8417698
It may be hard for you to fathom, but $220 plus $100 for the dock is a trivial amount of money to me. Ive seen the modded GBA screens, they are not that great. I’m perfectly fine spending the money on the anal log pocket. Worse case scenario, I don’t like it and pawn it off to the next sucker. Sorry if this comes off as rude, but I really don’t think you understand how trivial this type of purchase is to me. I spent more on food this past week than this product would cost with all the accessories. Sometimes you have to just acknowledge when luxury goods are outside you price range, and are well within the budgets of others. Because trust me, if someone has to save up and start doing price vs performance comparison for an analogue product then they really can’t afford it. Its like a Tesla, only a fool would stretch their budget for a luxury good when there are nearly equivalent alternatives for a fraction of the price. I’m not trying to convince anyone that the analogue is a good buy for them personally, just that its feature set is good enough to me at this price point.

>>8417561
when it first went on sale people compared order numbers to estimate how many were sold and it was in the region of 10,000

>>8417731
Stopped reading like 1/4 through. You think this thing looks better than modded hardware, I disagree but that's your preference, but nobody gives a shit about your financials anon

>>8416384
Fucking kek, the real question will be who will want to own one and actually use it

>>8417423
>>8417358
>>8417261
>>8416414
Oh, my bad. I guess I'll just flip the other one a few months later for 3-5 times the cost. Or, make it a great birthday gift for someone.

>>8417731

>I can afford to waste money

That's all well and good anon, but you are still wasting money.

Personally I'm too much of a jew for that, no matter how much money I have I still loathe to spend it. In fact, the more I have, the more I desire that every penny be well spent.

This product would be somewhat reasonably worthwhile to me if it loaded roms, and also played NES/SNES/Genesis etc. It has a really nice display and looks like an overall well built, nice piece of hardware; but why would I want to buy a modern Gameboy that still requires carrying around original cartridges like it's 1993. I might as well just use an actual Gameboy.

>>8417823
The FPGA developer has already said it will support loading Genesis/SNES cores (so I wouldn’t be surprised if it supports NES too), and every Analogue console so far has had a sideloaded jailbreak firmware release to allow roms. Couple that with the dock, and this is a pretty fucking nice piece of kit.

>>8417852
Yeah I think I'm gonna go for one tomorrow
It seems like this is the first analogue product that doesn't have some big shortcoming

>>8416232
>$899
Was it personally assembled by Jesus or something?

>>8417863
I just hope their website doesn’t crash again. The sale goes live at like 2am my time so I have an alarm set for 1:55.

>>8416232
>this much for emulation

>>8417872
Seriously id like to see a legit list of which games actually benefit from how much more "Accurate" this kind of emulation is in this product compared to a high accuracy emulator core in retroarch.

>>8417698
I have an v2 ips screen in my sp and it has really bad after image issues, the same mentioned in MLiG's review. Kind of ruins it for me, would not recommend

>>8416232
Why would I buy this piece of shit that can't even run ROMs off of the system itself?
>muh preservation! it's for the authentic experience!
Why wouldn't I just use original hardware at that point then?

>>8417636
I still use a frontlit SP and appreciate the unintended bonus feature of it working really well as a flashlight.

>>8417870
I'm sure it'll be a massive headache but at least now it's basically an open preorder
I'd rather wait like a year than pay some scalper

>>8417882
Well I dont think retroarch can connect to other gameboys, the gameboy printer, can't be used for gamecube connectivity and doesn't work with special cart games

>>8417898
You're right, it's probably not for you

>>8417910
I'm sorry I'm not the target audience for getting ripped off.

>>8417907
so thats it?

>>8416325
In 10 years FPGA won't be the same anymore. These devices will be able to be recreated on a board the size of a penny.

>>8417962
where can I read about where FPGA technology is heading?

>>8417967
Nothing that relates to gaming. It's all business related.

>>8417967
In 10 years if programmers build on what we have now, the potential is literally what that anon said. Every single aspect of an original game console can be recreated on an FPGA to be indistinguishable from an actual console released in the 80s or 90s, except it will be HD and the size of a penny board.

I was excited for this before hearing about the bad dpad.

>>8417887
Not to mention it adds a frame of lag.

>>8417898
>Why would I buy this piece of shit that can't even run ROMs off of the system itself?
it can though. every single analogue device can

>>8417950
also runs at system native frequencies with judder, but that's more thanks to the VRR display

but yeah, I'd say my original post is a pretty big deal if we're talking about more accurate/functionality

>>8418062
without judder*

>>8416414
She. She's an idiot. Only women are that retarded with money.

Hey So basically I'm just gonna not buy an anallog I Know..... UGH I know... It's just that I'm not gonna buy it is all HAHAHAHAHRHAHAHA HARAHARHARH.

>>8416232
https://endrift.com/2021/12/13/analogue-pocket-hate-story/

>>8416232
As much as I love goofing on the people nutting over this thing it does look pretty nice. If I had a bunch of gameboy games I'd get one.

>>8418207
I read this and I just think its funny how much the author sperged out about delaying another useless update to his already more than good enough emulator. Analogue totally low balled him though, imagine working 400 hours for $20k in Silicon Valley LMAO.

>>8417852
If it wasn’t for the stupid form factor...
I think it would have been neat if the model of the device was similar to those Chinese portables that also have two analog sticks and a 16:9 screen

>>8418507
Funny, I’m an autist about these stuff and I like the form factor so much more than those chink vita knockoff form factors.

>>8418207
>implying im gonna read what a tranny has to say
kys

>>8417852
I have a feeling this stuff is still far away as there's still a bunch of features missing from the OS and from the dock firmware.

>>8418207
Author acts agreeable on Discord to the person, doesn’t fully communicate their thoughts and needs, later says it’s OK, then totally ghosts them and says “I meant to reply to you, but no I can’t do this”

Then writes an article sperging out and acting self-righteous about their open-source emulator.

Passive-aggressive and childish behaviour. No negotiating skills, no prioritising, just avoiding conflict and then playing the victim.

Typical.

>>8416232
>$899 for just GB & GBA games
>even going by original price it's still $299
I can get like 4 (or just 3 without the current discount) Retroid Pocket 2 units with that money. This piece of shit goes all the way up to the fucking Dreamcast and whatnot.

"B-but it's icky gross emulation" bitch don't pretend that anyone here could tell the difference lmao. Let's not pretend that GBA & GB emulation isn't basically already perfect as it is, unlike certain other consoles like N64.

>>8417962
The FPGA chip itself is pretty small already

>>8418984
Just the Pocket itself, it's $199, or at least it was before they played the chip shortage card. Next batch will be $219.

>>8419018
Stop trying to convince the nonbelievers to consoom, I want to keep free inventory when preordering opens next week

>>8419003
True, but he's probably talking about miniaturizing the rest of the components and board.

>651ppi 1600x1440 to play with
>200$+
>Still can't fucking recreate how the Game Gear looks
What the fuck did Analogue and Kevtris mean by fucking this?
Why are there still fucking jaggies in the Pocket LCD Shader where there aren't in the original Game Gear screen?

Somebody fucking explain this to me please.

Anyways take your goddamn zoom zoom jaggies and shove them up your ass.

For 200 bucks you could get a like a million other emulator handheld that can do PS1 and Saturn games. I get the whole idea with FPGAs but honestly if you care about hardware accuracy then just buy the original systems, otherwise this is just a shitty expensive middle ground.

>>8417907
then buy a GBA for 20 dollars lmao. You don't need a 200 dollar meme machine to use a gameboy printer.

>>8418207
That is just too perfect. It even starts with some honest to God simping.

Nobody wants to reply to this >>8419136 ?
I thought so.
Analogue is fucking garbage. Stick to your original Game Gear for soulful visuals free of zoom zoom aliasing.

>>8419136
Left looks like what a soiboy thinks the game gear looked like

>>8419136
You can't even see the picture in the GG pic lol

>>8419224
I love some eye-strain with my soulful visuals

>>8419136
I mean, blow out the brightness and soften the image and you'd be 75% of the way there. Think it even has options to do that out of the box.

>>8419265
>>8419267
>>8419269
Stop damage controlling
It's 2021
We should have the middle with the brightness of the left and right
Jaggies are unacceptable at this point
The games were meant to be smooth not some jaggie central mess

>>8417506
>manchildren in their mid 20s to mid 40s who have their parents' cash to spend.

FTFY.

>>8417506
It's shit.
It doesn't even have an OLED screen and the LCD Shaders aren't even accurate.

Emulation is free and better.

https://endrift.com/2021/12/13/analogue-pocket-hate-story/

>>8418479
>him

>>8419348
he will never be a woman

>>8419367
He's contributed more than you have.

>>8419348
>FreeBSD
*Hugs*

>>8419334
>raises a whole fuss because the offer was too low
trannies are mentally instable and this cements it, I'm not using mGBA ever again and purchasing the analogue pocket when it opens up in 20 minutes

Preordered, I hope I was fast enough to be in group A

>>8419683
I got a blank page upon checking out and now every time I try to restart it, it gives me a blank page again. Piece of shit lol

I was early to get in the queue, but late to pay because of fucking Wells Fargo. Does that mean Analogue will ship me late? Also cost me over 250 bucks, including 20 bucks for shipping domestically in the US of A.

>>8419136
>Why are there still fucking jaggies in the Pocket LCD Shader where there aren't in the original Game Gear screen?
Because the GG screen is so clearly fucking shit? It looks like it's been smeared with cum.

Don't forget that you have to buy the $100 dock if you want video out. Fucking disgusting.

HERE WE FUCKING GOOOOO

Got my order in. Took forever to process, I really hope I’m still in Group A.

>>8419714
>$321
It'd still be cheaper to buy a real Gameboy Advance SP

>20 dollar domestic shipping
classic analogue, hiding the true price increase in the shipping fee

Got mine
I had to wait like 1 minute in the line. I hope I'm in group A and won't get fucked because I wanted some accessories

Hello fellow Anal Log consoomers. I was able to complete my purchase by 8:05am (best coast time). Got the confirmation email but no shipping group listed so I assume that will be figured out later. Emulator and ChinkBoy users from Aliexpress feel free to seethe that I just wasted you entirely yearly income on a toy

>>8419721
Will it play all the Sega, SNK, Atari, and NEC games, too? BARGAINOUS! AWESOME HANDHELD GET!

>>8419136
You really think the middle looks good in the slightest?

>>8419631
>Consooming product because you interpreted a business decision as virtue signaling
You've become everything you swore to destroy.

>>8419741
To be fair neither does the Pocket yet until they actually sell the adapters.

>>8419739
they're not going to announce everyone's shipping group until a few days later

Analogue’s store charged me a city tax for a city I don’t even live in lmao. My mailing address is technically in that city but I live in the unincorporated outskirts even though mailing address has the city name on it. Its only a medium sized city of 5,000 so maybe their software doesn’t understand how life works outside megacities? Cool, guess the tax plus tip meme is real.

>bought two
>will sell the other one for $400 to recover the cost of the one I keep

>>8419758
Please understand, this is a small company full of passionate idealists and any extra helps.

>>8419298
>It doesn't even have an OLED screen
4:3 OLED displays would cost the world. And I'm talking about the perma-screen burn, last gen kind. Use your head.
>LCD Shaders aren't even accurate
The DMG, GBA and GBC shaders are flawless, you neek. and the GG shader is clearly an improvement over the original. Obviously (because it isn't a games console from the early NINETIES), it can be updated or jailbroken. Shaders and every other fanciful little thing will be right at your withered fingertips, you salty, whiny, miserable little hag.
The absolute of this thread. You're like a bunch of old, autistic, super pedantic women. Oh, the most keks!

>Analogue

CONSUME

>>8419721
not everyone is on your budget juan

>>8419298
>It doesn't even have an OLED screen
4:3 OLED displays would cost the world. And I'm referring about the perma-screen burn, last gen variety. They're not some megalith corporation with deep pockets like Sony or Nintendo. Use your head.
>LCD Shaders aren't even accurate
The DMG, GBA and GBC shaders are flawless, you neek; and the GG shader is clearly an improvement over the original. Obviously (because it isn't a games console from the early NINETIES), it can be updated or jailbroken. Shaders, and every other fanciful little thing that you could ever want will be right at your withered fingertips, you salty, whiny, miserable little hag.
The absolute of this thread. You're like a bunch of old, autistic, super pedantic women. Oh, the most keks!

>>8419348

Oh I'm sorry, I meant "it"

>>8419298
>It doesn't even have an OLED screen
4:3 OLED displays would cost the world. And I'm referring to the perma-screen burn, last gen variety. They're not some megalith corporation with deep pockets like Sony or Nintendo. Use your head.
>LCD Shaders aren't even accurate
The DMG, GBA and GBC shaders are flawless, you neek; and the GG shader is clearly an improvement over the original. Obviously (because it isn't a games console from the early NINETIES), it can be updated or jailbroken. Shaders, and every other fanciful little thing that you could ever want will be right at your withered fingertips, you salty, whiny, miserable little hag.
Good grief. The absolute of this thread. You're like a bunch of old, autistic, super pedantic women. Oh, the most keks have certainly been had!

>>8419136
Yeah if you look past all the shill reviews its obvious the analogue pocket is good for gameboy and gameboy color, and everything else including gba is mediocre on it

Just buy a steam deck for $50 more, it can emulate anything, what are you? Too poor?

>>8420102
Just buy a pocket and as steam deck. What are you? Too poor?

>>8420102
>Supporting DRM cancer.
Inb4 "I can put Linux on it!" You still are paying Valve or a scalper that purchased from Valve.

>>8420119
Ever hear of the pirate bay you stupid gorilla nigger

>>8420148
Yeah, better fire up that 3D printer and get to torrenting that Steam Deck! Also, nice work with your identical replies to my posts in both threads. Your shill skills should be praised.

>>8416232
>Buy my overpriced junk, Goyim.

>>8416232
Managed to get two pre ordered for a friend. Not interested personally, i have the Super NT and Mega SG. I want their Duo eventually (And PS1 if they make it, day one) but i never cared for handheld games.

>>8416232
>Seller does not accept returns
KEK

>>8419136
based retard

Can someone explain me what this actually is? You can't play roms on it? Why even buying? Who still has old gameboy cardridges? Even if you own them you still need to change their battery.

(Also what is the best emulator device?)

>>8418984
Damn, only 65 bucks? is that thing actually any good? I might buy one right now shit.

>>8420429
No it's dogshit tbf. There are better handheld retro devices.

>>8418801
yup sounds like a journalist

>>8420429
Admittedly haven't bought it myself due to it being the holiday season, as I'm more on a budget with all the gifts I gotta buy. Despite that, I've seen plenty of YouTube reviews regarding these kinds of systems, and the Retroid Pocket 2 here seems to be one of the more appreciated ones. It runs off of Android with the emulators preinstalled, with the OS allowing different emulators or source ports to be manually added if you so desired.

If the Android OS is a bit too much of a turn off for you though, I've heard of a different handheld called RG351P (or RG351M if you wanna spend $40 extra on metal casing). It's a bit more expensive (costs about a hundred bucks), but it uses EmulationStation as it's front end so that you'll have a more smooth and visually consistent experience UI wise. You can install replacements for it if you'd prefer a different look of to it, and it also generally performs the same as the Retroid Pocket 2 as well.

>>8419839
150 thousand us american dollars and you still gotta pay shipping lmao

>>8416425
Nah, they'll just flee to other platforms.

>>8419710
>>8419710
>>8420402
Fuck off shill
200 dollars for emulator jaggies is unacceptable
I want the middle with the brightness of the left or right
JAGGIES ARE UNACCEPTABLE!

>>8417887
Ah shit that's what I was going off of, it looked good in videos I was considering maybe getting an original GBA to use with it. Currently I have 2 101 SPs and a Micro and mostly play the Micro

>>8419721
I have a real SP, and OG GBA with an AGS-101 screen, an SP with an LCD mod, and DS Lite and a 3DS

I still bough a pocket :)

>>8420965
>:)
Get out tranny

>>8420993
>>:)
You first

>>8419927
>The DMG, GBA and GBC shaders are flawless
And the Game Gear shader is garbage
You get better shaders on PC for free

>>8419927
>4:3 OLED displays would cost the world
It wouldn't have to be a 4:3 OLED display and in fact the display on the pocket is 11:10 same as the Game Boy
They could hide the borders with the bezels and rotate a 16:9 screen.

>>8417506
>The other analogue products have HDMI out
Just like 5 other more common devices you have in your home which are able to emulate.

>>8420998
kys

>>8418207
I really like the title pun.

>>8421090
I don't have one

>>8417815
Kek, imagine someone giving a Gameboy cart emulator to someone as a present to either a child or an adult in 2021. How much of a fucking faggot do you have to be to even consider this? Fuck off shill.

>>8421180
That guy would unironically be my most based friend

>doesn't do n64
>doesn't save to the carts, just savestates
>paying $300 for chinkshit
just buy a fucking gb boy color for $40 or a real gameboy and mod it, you fucking cancerous coomers

>>8421343
retard

>Still can't do diagonals well
Why is it hard to make a proper D-Pad?

>>8419384
And he'll live a third of his lifespan at the very best.

Why should i buy this instead of video-out modding some original hardware?

>>8419348
troons on suicide watch (figuratively and literally)

>>8419714
>34.99 for shipping
imagine charging for shipping on nearly $300 worth of stuff

>>8420507
351P is probably a better device than the pocket 2 since it doesn't run off of android, so no android related input lag

>>8421354
From the teardown video the contacts looked easy to access, which means it should be easy to fix. I've fixed the issue on my switch pro controller by masking off a portion of the contacts with tape which makes the diagonals less sensitive

shit that you have to do it, but I'm hoping it's as simple as what I did with the pro controller

>>8421578
Shipping costs have doubled this year. $20 is cheap. Why should they eat the cost for you?

>>8419758
>Analogue’s store charged me a city tax for a city I don’t even live in lmao
>My mailing address is technically in that city but

are you retarded

>>8421605
because it's the norm to cover shipping on high dollar sales. Also you can easily get that shit in a flat rate box for half the cost, let alone the discounts you get for volume shipping at a business.
>t. do a lot of shipping and receiving

>>8421343
You're trying way too hard

>>8421605
>$20 is cheap
For a literally one half pound device plus some packaging? Nah.

broke: emulating gameboy games for free on whatever you like
woke: buying expensive boutique FPGA consoles to play your gameboy carts as accurately as possible
bespoke: buying a gamecube, gameboy player, gameboy player start-up disc, everdrive, gamecube component cables, an OSSC to output to an HDTV, and a GBA and Gamecube link cable to use an actual GBA as a controller

The most common complaint I see is the cartridge slot thing. But once you can play ROMs off the SD slot, what other flaws are there?

Price is not a flaw poorfags

>>8421841
the fact that I can play gameboy shit on literally anything else

>>8421847
Its not FPGA so its shit

>>8419714
>30 dollars for a shitty plastic rectangle
>a shitty plastic rectangle that only exists because they couldn't even do a superior SP-style clamshell design to protect the screen automatically
>16 dollar link cable
>20 dollar USB cable
>35 dollars shipping
top fucking kek. I get that they're a niche manufacturer and do the "premium" up-marketing route of charging out the ass to retards with more money than sense, but come the fuck on. This is worse than apple-tier.

>>8421851
>VGH THIS GAMEBOY EMULATOR ISN'T CYCLE ACCURATE ITS LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE HERE CHECK OUT THIS ONE MINOR GLITCH IN A NICHE DEMOSCENE ROM

come on, dude. You'd have a point if we were talking about stuff that emulators still have a hard time dealing with like genesis soundchip or N64 everything, but gameboy? top fucking kek.
Also DS and 3DS both have native hardware support for GBA

My computer does this for free and supports network play

>>8416232
Surprisingly I was able to get a preorder this morning, no fuss or anything.

>>8421903
I believe they're still open, they're doing running queue orders at this point. Which is how it should be done for all scarce products right now IMO

>>8421861
I genuinely think the pocket itself seems pretty decent for the price. The FPGA itself, the screen and from reviews the over build quality seems miles and miles ahead of those upper end anbernic handhelds and those tend to be around $100 on launch yeah?

The accessories are fucking retarded though. Luckily you don't really need them unless you're really into physical carts

>>8416325
I can't see that being a viable financial strategy. At the end of the day Analogue shit area just clone consoles. They're not "original" and they'll never become some sought-after thing years later the way niche consoles are. As time goes on there will be further developments in FPGA technology and everything else and there will be FPGA shit that is better in every way than this and capable of more as well.

It's not akin to old collectible hardware. It's more like GPUs. Yeah, let me try to sell you my old 8800 GT for big bucks. That's valuable, right?

>>8421951
I actually agree. The pocket itself seems pretty reasonable at $220, although I'm personally not interested. I'm really just appalled by the accessory prices. I guess they're pulling a movie-theater strategy of trying to make most of their profit off the supplemental bullshit by up-charging the fuck out of it

>>8421954
I don't know why people are so anti-FPGA around here. Especially as they become more affordable, these are fantastic avenues for preservation and support. It's super comforting knowing that as actual hardware becomes more and more scarce, FPGA equivalents will continue to be available. I'll never have to worry about shitty PS1 lasers again while still getting to play my lightgun games thanks to FPGA's

>>8421976
I don't know how you got that as the take-away message. My point is that FPGAs aren't going to be "collectible" in the same sense that old consoles are. I'm no more "anti-FPGA" than I am "anti-GPU". The idea of buying an FPGA in order to flip it a decade from now is like, again, trying to flip decade old graphics cards.

>>8421992
Sorry, I meant it in a sort of agreement to your statement on growing FPGA tech

>>8419384
Dilate.

>>8416232
normal gb/gbc/gba screens are kinda shit now, so I can see the appeal in getting a portable device that has it ready for $200.
like yeah that screen is fantastic.
however looks like it still needs flashcarts though as its mostly just hardware?

I think we kinda reached the point where a small device with android is more preferable than a gameboy hardware replacement, but its neat i guess.

So if I am accepting that I shouldn't buy this thing, what is the best handheld emulators atm.

1. One that feels and looks great
2. One that plays the largest variety

Or best in each category, cus I wanted this one cus it is sexy as fuck and looks well made, but I need a better option.

>>8422168
3DS

>>8422128
>however looks like it still needs flashcarts though as its mostly just hardware?
every analogue device has a 'leaked' firmware from one of the devs that plays roms off an SD card. I don't see why this would be the odd one out

>>8421992
>My point is that FPGAs aren't going to be "collectible"

Fucking GOOD. Collectible culture makes everything unaffordable. I want fresh gameboys being made

>>8422168
If you aren’t in the market for this, why not just use your phone like a third worlder? Or hack your 3ds or switch?

>>8421864
how do I nateively play gb and gba roms on my 3DS?

>>8422375
CFW

>>8421629
Are you? He literally said its an unincorporated part. This is the case in a lot of suburbs where the city you put on your mailing address you aren't technically in the city limits law wise

>>8422231
Based opinion. I want to live in a world where reproductions of classic games are mass produced and readily available like vinyl releases. I want them to be indistinguishable from their originals and for the collector market to shrivel up and collapse in on itself. If you disagree with any of this you're most likely a dirtbag collector and/or reseller who worships money and never cared about the hobby in the first place. Nobody gives a shit about how much you spent getting where you are, I'd gladly have my collection become worthless if it meant getting the authentic experience for any game I wanted was cheap and available to everyone.

>>8422174
Looks like shit though. Either get a tiny picture or a blurry mess.

>>8416325
Any console reverse engineered enough to produce a viable FPGA solution is reverse engineered enough to produce a cycle accurate software version.

>>8422481
But it is, you fucking retard. Don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on a game? buy a fucking everdrive. I'll do you one better. THERE ARE REPRODUCTIONS for a fraction of the money. Buy one and stop your fucking stupid whining.

>>8422519
>b-but kevtris told me FPGA is not emulation!!
Leave >>8416325 alone. He's a retard and nothing will change that.

>>8422519
The FPGA will have lower input lag. Is that not important to accurately replicating the original experience?

>>8422587
runahead.

>>8416232
The chinks shit on your soi faggotry for only $108.

>>8422547
So it's poor quality repos made using shotty scans and cheap materials or simply not owning a physical copy at all? I'll keep whining thanks, I have standards. To your credit, there are some amazing repos out there but the catch is they can't exist for long due to copyright, are made in limited quantities or are a 'stars aligning' situation where all the original materials needed to make it were available. Point is, sega has the means to reprint copies of Panzer dragoon Saga right now but instead we're stuck with something so low effort that you might as well not even have it. If Nintendo, sega and sony can release mini consoles that come with near spot on replicas of their og controllers there's nothing stopping them from getting original game boys out there.

>>8419714
at this point you're just giving them a $320 loan until they ship those to you in what will probably be two years from now.

>>8420232
;)

>>8416232
Biggest turnoff for me about this device is the dpad apparently not being great. At that price, it should be.

>>8422481
I am a huge collectorfag and agree with everything you say assuming you mean the comparison made to vinyl is that they are officially licensed, quality reprints and not just throwing some cash at a chink making em in his basement like repros are mostly now.

>>8422687
>You may cancel your order at any time for a full refund before shipment.

>>8422743
Why do these meme products all use Nintendo's awful cross-shaped pad instead of the superior circular one?

>>8422809
I’m buying one because its nostalgia bait. I don’t want cringe shit like a functional d-pad.

>>8422784
Yep that would be the exact kind of rerelease I mean, I want it to SMELL the same coming out of the shrink wrap.

>>8422809
True, Sega perfected the Dpad when they made the Saturn controller. Although the Saturn dpad is a bit big for a handheld controller, it should still work well to have a scaled-down version. Actually one of the best dpads I tried was not a dpad, but some kind of hybrid between analog stick and dpad on the GP2X Caanoo. That thing was the best of both worlds between dpad and analog stick. A real shame that the Caanoo got quickly abandoned once Android emulation took off, and the emulators for it were never finished. That device was lovely at least from a hardware POV. The screen it had was almost like a mini-CRT.

>>8422830
*handheld console

>>8420429
It's okay, but that list in the picture is a lie. N64 , Dreamcast, and above all run like complete ass, and that's if you can even get the game to load. The controls also need a big improvement because even though I can hold it comfortably the buttons are of mediocre chinese quality. Also that right stick is fake, it's more of a shitty, grindy 3DS circle pad locked into digital input only.
Still not bad at the $65 price cut if you want older games and the occasional Android port, but the 2+ is $99 and it rectifies a lot of the issues I have with the Retroid by upgrading the hardware specs. Can actually play N64 for one thing. Right stick is still a shitty circle pad but whatever.

>>8419136
Kevtris didn't work on this, some non-binary alien did instead. Almost used the T word but the/vr/annies don't joke around with language use.

>>8422874
I think that was just for the bios

>>8417506
You've upset the lazy poorfag zoomers. Many such cases.

>>8416232
I was looking at a review of this, and the input latency seems really bad. It takes an average of ~6 frames for anything to actually register.

>>8422879
even then they backed out

>>8417506
>late gen x, millennial, and early zoomer manchildren in their mid 20s to mid 40s who have lots of cash to spend, want to play their childhood games
this is me but I pirate and emulate

>>8422989
which review?

>>8422993
MVG's. I don't know the numbers for real hardware, but there was enough delay in that video for me to go back and take it frame-by-frame.

>>8422830
The Neo Geo Pocket had the perrfect d-pad.

I preordered but then I realized I'll get ultraraped by VAT and customs since it seems like the site didn't make me pay any VAT.
looks like I'll have to pay an extra 100 at worst

>>8423019
duty is £62 apparently if you're in the UK

>>8423019
But isn’t that your fault for voting to implement VAT? Americans don’t have to worry about this. Its something you chose, not Analogue’s problem?

>>8423115
I didn't vote shit

>>8423123
Then vote to repeal VAT?

>>8423142
I would if there would be such a votation but it will never happen

>>8423146
Aren’t politicians in europe accountable to their people?

>>8423192
not really, not even america is

>>8421828
You need to hack the GameCube as well to use a modified Version of the gameboy player start up disk that fixes some output resolution issues

>>8421705
>because it's the norm to cover shipping on high dollar sales
Not really, it's often offered as an incentive to entice shoppers to buy with them over a competitor, however no one else sells Analogue products except themselves so why give it for free? Plus Analogue use a higher quality protective packaging than most online retailers for which I'm definitely thankful for as an overseas customer.

>>8423279
>incentive to entice shoppers to buy with them over a competitor
and also to entice the customer to spend more to qualify for the free shipping

>>8423192
what planet are you living on?

>>8417887
DSi screen mod is really good, doubt there’s much to complain about there
It even has just enough blur to add flicker blending

>>8421841
Other flaw often pointed is the dpad, it's not bad, but it's not excellent, 8bitdo is behind it, overtime they improved their dpad but still sometimes you still have the unwanted diagonal input, I'm sure some of you has the 8bitdo Sn30Pro + and know what I'm talking about, it's almost a perfect dpad if only sometimes there wasn't this unwanted diagonal input, not a huge deal breaker, but still at that price it's a shame

>>8423019
They should open a warehouse or at least find a partner in Europe, that's what many Aliexpress seller do.

>>8423325
I'm pretty sure they'd just have to comply with european taxation and have you pay VAT at the time of purchase (and then send it to the EU) so the courier doesn't have to call people to keep their packages hostage until VAT is paid

>>8423205
no anon, GBI is free. That's unacceptable. It needs to be the most retardedly expensive and complicated chain of stuff for playing gameboy games imaginable.

>>8423385
Yeah but the drive emulator for the gamecube costs more than the gameboy player start up disk so it increases the net total cost.

>>8421841
the shoulder buttons
stuck with the gb/gbc format for other non handheld platforms
the main reason to get it isn't out yet so no performance tests in that aspect
https://twitter.com/SmokeMonsterTWI/status/1470921206391926784

>>8421951
In defense of the dock (somewhat), the thing is apparently non-standard USB-C (there might be a good reason for this), has bluetooth for wireless controllers and has it's own upgradable firmware
But yeah, it's expensive for sure
Too bad about the adapters but I have none of that shit, is there even anything worth playing on Lynx? And TG-16 and NGP is too expensive to dive in anyways

I don't trust any niche product that has a ton of review videos come out within two to three days of each other. This is when money is put more into marketting than the product.

>>8423846
same, still bought 3 last august to flip 'em

I just want a new console-phone hybrid with the form factor of the Xperia Play, damnit...

I would love one to develop games for.

Overpriced junk for reddit fags.

>>8416232
>you sell your shitty products for peanuts to assholes that mark them up


It was and always has been shell companies/employees of the respective companies (likr sonys ps5 or nvidea) that are marking them up so that they protect their brand from your ire.

Very simple marketing to extract maximum value from the public while blaming individuals. Police do the same thing when theyre running drugs for local governments, where the lowly negro is supposedly growing a hundred acres of marijuana in his studio apartment. Or producing factories' worth of meth/heroine that require acres of land to produce (and a brain)

How do you play Boktai on this thing?

>>8423426
They really need to make a redesign with a GBA/PSP style. That or they can make a shitton of cash by making a plastic grip.

I'll wait until they release support for WS/C and VB.

$200 pls

>>8424049
I doubt Analogue will do either, otherwise they'd have announced adapters.

>>8423915
Buy/make a pin extension board, some cheat devices might also work.

>>8423846
This. It just feels really artificial when suddenly a million YT channels all put out analogue pocket reviews on the exact same day, obviously due to a review embargo. Like come on, it's a fucking boutique hardware maker targeting a specific niche audience. Why do you need to do this bullshit?

>>8423915
get the hacked rom obviously
...this pos runs roms right?

>>8419927
>4:3 OLED displays would cost the world
Would they really?
I mean there's OLED screens in all sorts of funny shapes and sizes in just about every single kind of device these days, and for very affordable prices too.

>>8416232
I think it's pretty cool but the price is stupid and similar, cheaper clones will pop up in a few years. The only FPGA worth waiting for is a Saturn or N64 one.

>>8424143
only n64 now.

>>8416232
>OP wrote all this to try and say emulation and fpga are the same
Stop. No one cares. If you had 4 setups next to each other hidden from view with JUST a controller coming from them, one FPGA, one real, one emulation, one clone. The only one you would know wasn't authentic is the clone.

>>8424061
Looks like the same dudes hands that tried to break the OG NT and when analogue asked for it to see why he had issues and offered to replace free he went silent. Just trying to make issues where there are none. (the pocket doesn't work like that webm pretends. Literally not how the games are loaded so 100% fake)

>>8422128
We reached Android superiority to all other options back in 2015. It only keeps getting better for the hardest to emulate stuff since then.

>>8424158
The entire cartridge housing looks like a shit design, it's lowered so much to allow for the shoulder buttons to be in a comfortable spot but seems to compromise the stability of the cart being plugged in. Shit design.

>>8419348
What commercial game stole what emulator?

>>8422613
Actually $90 on banggood
I've only used them once and they were pretty good with not scamming me so try at your own risk

>>8424112
all analogue devices do

>>8424143
the price of the pocket seems pretty decent honestly, considering everything it comes with and the overall build quality

>>8424214
>overall build quality

>>8424061

>>8424227
that does seem like a bit of a miss there. luckily I wouldn't really be using carts anyway, but I wonder how they'd go about fixing it. I imagine it was a compromise to fit the shoulder buttons?

>>8424158
i remember moistkritical released a video when the Switch came out full of clips of people having massive issues on day 1.
and then none of them were common if real at all, heck, the video didnt even contain the true problem of the switch, joycon drift. these videos are just seeking attention cause negativity thrives on the internet

>>8424173
Medarot Classics Plus on the Nintendo Switch
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/05/nintendo_accused_of_allowing_pirated_software_on_the_eshop_by_gba_emulator_developer
https://twitter.com/endrift/status/1392394777249816583

>>8424351
fucking lol
I swear devs have been hilariously lazy with regards to retro ports, I remember when that Sonic DS collection just used a homebrew Genesis emulator, and the PS1 Mini using PCSX-ReARMed

>>8424158
The games aren't loaded, that's why that can happen, and why shit like the Game Boy Camera works. It's a shit design flaw, but you have to wonder how common it would be in practice. The video it is from seems to have issues with a dirty Pokemon cart as well:
>https://youtu.be/tspthi0V0EU?t=664
>11:04

>>8424162
ps2 emulation is legit on android now, and there's dolphin for gc/wii and of course retroarch.
it pretty crazy

>>8419348
>weirdo
at least it’s honest

>>8424452
did they fix ridge racer v?

>>8424351
I see nothing wrong with doing this. Don't tell me emulator devs are naïve enough to think people are dumping their roms either.

>>8424497
To be fair, this is nowhere near the same scale as genuine infringement but I do think it's a bit of a dick move to not give proper credit for the emulator's use. If you're gonna go through the effort of utilizing said emulator, may as well toss in the appropriate names in a fraction of that time

>>8424104
The review embargo is more to ensure the 'content creators' (ugh) don't rush out their reviews to try and get the first clicks.

>>8424452
i remember playing Wipeout XL on my phone for the first time and thinking, "alright that's as powerful as i will ever need phones to be"
turned out i was right but it's cool people are still going

Have any reviewers tried using a generic USB-C to HDMI adapter? Or do you need the overpriced dock?

>>8423926
this
I suspect they will do just that at some point like an Analogue Pocket Advance or something

>>8423846
This happens with literally every piece of hardware, whether it's consoles or phones/tablets etc. They want to be fair so certain outlets don't get their videos out first and get more views.

>>8424452
Does android still have input lag with controllers? Haven't really pay attention to it since like 2014.

>>8425369
bluetooth feels bad
i use a ps4 controller wired but its still probably a couple frames.
i'm used to adjusting to different tvs for competitive fighting games so its not a huge deal

>>8422481
>I want to live in a world where reproductions of classic games are mass produced and readily available
Same here. It's ridiculous that this isn't already happening, and it's mostly the fault of low IQ tasteless faggots with low standards like this one:
>>8422547
>buy a fucking everdrive
>THERE ARE REPRODUCTIONS for a fraction of the money

>>8425384
PS4 controller is actually more responsive over Bluetooth than wired for whatever reason

>>8425369
yes

>>8424061
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>8416325
>I'm buying two because I'm not a retard

>>8422587
You can configure emulators to have less input lag than original hardware if you want. It's not an issue anymore.

>>8416325
being built in hardware doesn't make them automatically more accurate. it's just emulation with hardware rather than software, you still need to reverse-engineer the platform.

I think this misunderstanding is why a lot of people are interested in FPGA: they believe that it's going to be cycle-accurate just because it's hardware.

What's next for Analogue? With stuff like the MiSter, it seems like they have less of a place on the market, so what could they do next?

What would be great is notoriously hard to emulate systems. I dunno, Saturn? Maybe N64? Or that's going to just be too hard to do?

what's a good portable ps2 like op's image?

>>8416232
>there doesn't seem
Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it ain't so

>>8425023
I think Nintendo still have active patents for the GBA layout, but in a few years maybe it'll be possible.

>>8426307
I'm guessing they'll continue to release standalone systems, like the Duo. 5th gen seems feasible at least.

>>8426397
They need to redesign their NES, because it was ludicrously expensive, but I'd buy one at the price of the others
And whoa, I didn't know about the Duo. This is kind of crazy and unexpected considering nearly nobody has these games. But I suppose this raise hopes for the Saturn being an option for them?

>>8426412
I would love a new NT Mini Lite or something. Digital output only, plastic body, $150 or $200.
I’m intrigued by the Duo but I picked up a CD Engine Mini and it didn’t really resonate with me. Felt like playing an NES, but less polished. Do the CD games play better?

>>8426441
Yeah, it would be better
As for the TG-16, it depends. The library ain't big
As for the mini, Alien Crush instead of Devil Crush was a mistake but it seems like it has most of the important game but I ain't an expert.
I'm actually impressed they're bothering with the CD add-on considering they didn't care about the 32X and Sega CD, but it's true that the CD add-on is much more important here. That also means a first foray into having a CD drive for their system, making the Saturn even more likely. A PS1 one would be absolutely pointless however

>>8424497
if you want to use opensores code, abide by the license.
if you can't or don't want to follow the license, don't use the code.
super simple stuff.

they failed at that.

>>8426460
>muh license
lmao just sue them :)
emulators aren't being used to legally play videogames and there's nothing wrong with that either

>>8426307
They have to do N64, it's their only pathway forward. It may be a while in the future though as the Turbo Duo will be next and maybe a cut-down plastic NT Mini as a stopgap.

I bought a 351M instead, did I fuck up

>>8426618
I have a 351v and I personally think it's garbage, but others seem to like it so you do you

>>8426618
I had one and I liked it but I sold it cause I just didn't use it enough.

>>8424061
Mine arrives today. This will be the first thing I try.

>>8426616
they need to bite the bullet and use a better fpga. I would pay 599 us dollars for an fpga n64.

>>8426689
Is the current FPGA not strong enough for it?
600, just like their NES system, is just too much for this kind of product I think

>>8426674
Well, it arrived. Debating whether or not I want to sell it since it looks like in hand copies are going for $1000 right now.

Holy shit I thought it was going to be some $50 device or something.
Can't I just find my old PSP and mod it instead for similar results?
Wtf

>>8426745
posting pictures of your new plastic toy while you open your mouth wide on social media is a priceless experience. 200 is basically a steal, they're giving you for free.

>>8426751
Funny enough the reason why I'm not posting a picture of mine coming in is because the wrapper is so reflective I can't get a picture of it without my reflection in it. Guess I'm not snoy enough to use one right.

>>8426741
I opened it. Not gonna lie....I really like it. Bigger than I thought, screen is stunning, controls feel incredible.

>>8424061
>>8426818
For the record I have been able to replicate the webm. It takes a solid whack directly to the side of the cartridge and only happens on well worn out carts like my copy of Pocket Bomberman. Solar Striker I couldn't get it to jank out no matter how hard I hit it (within reason, I'm not breaking the fucking thing)

>>8426849
can vary depending on how disgustingly filthy your cartridge contacts are.

>>8426859
Bomberman and Solar Striker are equally as clean as each other. I scrubbed them down with alchohol when I aquired them within the last 2 years. Bomberman is just significantly worn out.

One of my copies of Super Mario Land 2 refuses to load at all as well as Pokemon Crystal. Red gave me a little trouble but started up and loaded my save game.

I'll start testing out some GBA games next.

Mine just got here too. I have a ton of ways to play gba games (gba, sp, sp with lcd mod, micro, ds lite, 3ds, 351v) so if anyone wants a comparison or something im happy to take a look

>>8426736
The current FPGA used in Analogue products has less logic gates than the MiSTer, which in turn doesn't have enough logic gates for N64

>>8426996
Ahhh, I see. That's disappointing then
Honestly I'd rather wait a few years until these chips are more affordable rather than see a 600$ monstrosity. I feel like it being too expensive just kind of defeats the point, you know?

>>8426886
Word of advice, when you go to play GBA games, turn the audio to high quality mode. Original audio will sound like satan trying to speak to you.

>>8427008
Current fpga's are super expensive. The reason mister took off at all was because the d10 nano it uses is sold at a loss for educational use (and even it has only been going up in price as time goes on) so it may be awhile

>>8426460
License? Just fork it, make arbitrary changes to the code, and boom now you can claim it's different enough that it isn't covered by that weak shit that doesn't actually do anything.

>>8426886
The screen is absolutely gorgeous. Very very fast response times, no motion blur at all. And its bright enough for the lcd shaders to still look fantastic and vibrant. And while I was worried about how gba would look with the lcd effect on, its perfectly fine

This is easily the best way to play gb/gbc/gba games right now IMO, portable anyway

>>8427025
Gba with lcd effect

>>8427025
Can you force GBC titles into GBA mode (to get to the Advance shop in the Oracles)?

>>8427032
Yeap. Can also run black carts in gb mode, and gb carts in gbc mode

>>8425369
It's simply inherent to the operating system. That's why I like the Anbernic devices, zero lag using Linux or Emulation Station on those portables.

>>8427045
Thanks. For some reason no one seemed to be mentioning whether you could or not.

>>8427027
>>8427025
The screen was the main reason why I wanted this and it did not disappoint at all. It really is stunning.

>>8427081
I have a pre order and the only thing that's keeping me from canceling is looking at the screen, it looks so good. If I have to wait until 2023 I will still probably cancel desu.

>>8425928
A good core will still be cycles accurate, and won't take a really good rig to run.

>>8427081
but gba with the lcd effect isn't correct.

>>8427025
>no motion blur at all
it's an lcd, it's going to have blur unless it uses BFI.

>>8426818
I see that you have some air bubbles around the screen. Did you get a screen protector? How easy is to apply it?

I ordered on the first batch but I'm still waiting for my shipping tracking #. Fuck this shit, I want my stuff.

>>8427251
Obviously there's some, thanks sample and hold. But compared to both official screens and the v2 LCD mod there's less

>>8426479
>emulators aren't being used to legally play videogames
says the moron while talking about a product sold on ninty's eshop using an emulator to play a gba-game on a switch
???
lay off the meth.

>>8427018
that's not how things work.
ask linksys.

>>8427354
oh you're just naive then
nvm

fpga is the future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CIh5mMuJ1I

>>8427474
What's with the flickering? Will it be able to eventually increase the 3d rendering res or have pgxp?

>>8427481
>increase the 3d rendering res or have pgxp?
disgusting

>>8427484
Will it be able to do those things or not? I don't playing without any of of that stuff if the performance is good.

>>8427487
I don't mind*

should I grab a GB and GBA everdrive or wait for jailbreak?

My theory this time is that since Analogue is now selling adapters, they're disincentivized from releasing a jailbreak (past jailbreaks are clearly made by the devs) since then there's no need to pay for the adapters.

>>8426450
Do you have any games to recommend? I want to check out emulation and decide if I should get the Duo or not.

>>8426818
How’s the dot matrix emulation? How’s the “pinball display” filter? Can you share some more pictures of the GB Light filter?

>>8427678
Not a big expert on the system, I just know it's a small library
But try Devil Crush, Castlevania Rondo of Blood, Psychosis, Ys Book I & II, Lords of Thunder and whatever else you recognize in the library

>>8427027
Can you adjust saturation and brightness levels so the GBA and GBC looks more true to life to the original displays? The photos I’ve seen look too vibrant, and I know games used to be developed with a brighter colour palette to make up for the darker displays.

>>8427690
I’ll check them out. Thanks, anon.

>>8424652
I understand that but the implication is therefore that they all had deals going on behind the scenes. Which again, isn't anything new, most consoomer tech channels like Linus Shill Tips do the same thing. But the point is it just seems really disingenuous. They're more or less sponsored videos rather than just being "oh hey how do you do fellow RETRO GAMER enthusiasts!"

>>8427606
I guess it's a possibility. They're obviously pulling some kind of shit with their pricing scheme, where the FPGA handheld is actually quite reasonably priced, but then they go worse-than-apple-tier with the extreme jewing on the peripherals. Like 30 dollars for a plastic cover so your handheld doesn't get scratched up, LMAO.
I'd just wait until it gets jailbroken honestly.

>>8427684
Here anon

>>8427696
Both brightness and saturation have separate sliders, ill show you in a sec

>>8427775
Hope you preordered the other day because it’ll be jailbroken next week
>$30 for a case
it’s stupid but that case is for display purposes (even more of a coomlector stupid thing), not for transport. The tempered glass pricing is more outrageous. I think the Game Gear adapter pricing is actually the most reasonable of the bunch.

>>8427958
20 dollars for a usb cable

>>8427950
and here's the pinball matrix filter. Not just a color swap but the grid itself is different

>>8427950
Damn that looks really nice actually.
>>8427963
Holy shit, this looks a lot cooler than I expected. I was thinking it could be a good “dark mode” screen, do you think it would be good for lessening eye strain in the dark?
>brightness/saturation
One reason I’m curious about this isn’t just to recreate the original screens, but in general make it easier on the eyes in a dim or dark room. The screen looks really bright by default.

Thanks for taking the pics, I’m really excited for this and it looks incredible.

>>8427696
There's 10 different levels of desaturation, 10 having no color at all. Here's the mid-level setting

>>8427974
Thanks. Do you think the saturation at mid-level looks pretty similar to a GBA screen?

>>8427049
MLiG showed the functionality I believe

>>8427749
I mean, fuck most of those channels, but that's how it works. They get the free product, that gets them a hot new product to make videos on which gets the views and it gets the company not having rushed out reviews. Respecting the embargo in return make them "trustable" to send their shit to review, thus shit to make videos about

>>8428378
That's fine for Linux Shill Tips since that's literally the point of that entire channel, but I take issue with the same shit happening with a bunch of other channels that aren't known for doing consoomer product review videos, especially when none of them mention that they're working closely with Analogue to deliver extended infomercials.

>>8427950
>>8427963
Have you been having issues getting any games loading up? A few of my carts were a struggle to get to boot, but it seems like once you get it going once it will repeatedly boot up with few problems after.

I can't get my Pokemon Crystal to boot at all and it works fine on both my GBA and GBC however.

>>8428558
Nope, havent had any issues yet. Even my knock off emerald and flash cart work fine

>>8428983
Did you update the firmware already? Realized I didn't yet, might be what is causing the problems.

>>8418157
I mean it when I say this is the first time I've seen an edit of this image and it actually reflected the people its meant to portray

>>8430138
I laughed at it, but Coury and Try and pretty nice guys, met them a few times at conventions.

>>8430175
>>8430138
I can't remember which MLiG video it is but there's one where Try literally sounds like he's cumming over the visual quality of something or other, it's hilarious.

That said, I love their videos. Best on the net if you're into getting quality A/V results with your retro consoles. Their mini docs are great too, I recommend the M2 one.

>>8428460

>>8432178
It's a shame Sega didn't make a Mega CD attachment for the Nomad

>>8432221
Instead, you'll just have to settle for this.

>>8432226
Actually I just remembered that the Nomad can play Sega CD games with the Mega SD and (I think) the Mega Everdrive Pro. It just needs to be modded to allow the CD audio sound through the cartridge connector.

>>8428387
People waited 2 fucking years loaning their money to see the real thing and not a rendering (me included). Shill or not, must people just wanted to see the real thing being manipulated by real hands in the real world. We already paid for it, so fuck it if the review is paid. I bought it for the screen and I'll jailbreak it, I'm not disappointed. I'm only disappointed by the fact that I'm still waiting for my shipping info.

The problem here is not people who bought it 2 years ago. The problem are the ones that heard it exists only now because of the reviews and jumped on the hype. Analogue was really smart with their timing for this second pre order.

>>8427048
>Anbernic devices, zero lag
You're funny

I'm kinda retarded, but where exactly can I get GB Studio games that are compatible with the Pocket? Is there a mega link?

>>8432384
https://itch.io/games/made-with-gb-studio

>>8432264
is it at least less lag than an android based device?

>>8432226
I can't believe this works

BTW, Analogue said on Twitter that we'll know our shipping group on Monday. "Almost everyone who ordered on Dec 14th should be in Group A or B"

https://twitter.com/analogue/status/1471949537774342146

>>8432440
Man, that's a lot of games

>>8416232
Who the actual fuck pays 900 dollars for a gameboy? Just buy an actual Gameboy, jesus fucking christ consoomers are the worst case of soi.

>>8416325
Chinks will have their own version soon enough

>>8434415
have the chinks done anything with fpga? I feel like it would be harder for them because they can't just build a shit device and throw a generic OS on top that supports already made emulators

>>8434420
I wonder, with an hacker/reverse engineer that knows what they're doing, is it possible to steal the cores out of these things? Then again, there's Mister for that
However the FPGA chips alone are quite expensive, no? Kinda putting a wrench on making these cheap disposable devices to sell

>>8434420
I dont think so but chinks will do anything to make a buck so it's only a matter of time

>>8434449
the cores are open source. you don't need to steal them.

>>8432226
>>8432230
Obviously the picture's a joke, but the 32X doesn't need to be there for that to work. The Power Base Converter does, though, obviously.

>>8435698
Also, he's playing a Master System game, not a Sega CD game.

>>8422989
You're guessing at input lag from a video? That's not how input works. You can't just eyeball his thumb and guess when he's pressing.

Also I dunno about the GBC or pocket but the OG gameboy's screen had hella lag.

Has any accuracy testing been done on the cores on this thing yet?

>>8435745
MVG tried to trip it.
the emulation is good, but the noise channel has some problems.
https://youtu.be/Ew91PeRy-ro

>>8434420
The issue with doing this is that someone in China needs to get a license from the IP owner of the FPGA. Alternatively, they'd have to source a similar FPGA that is free. FPGAs are not trivial to port to a different manufacturing process, so the Chinese manufacturer would have to get the original manufacturer (who is not Chinese, there are no major Chinese chip fabs) or would have to wait for alternative manufacturers to become available. None of these manufacturers will knowingly be complicit in IP theft.

Despite the whole bit about Chinese culture being ludicrously third world about IP theft, it's not actually easy for them to do.

tl;dr Chinese FPGA clones would be just as expensive as "real deal" FPGA systems.

>>8423475
How is it not USB-C?

>>8422992
So do I, but on a premium device.

So is the main draw to this thing the fact it plays physical cartridges? People are saying the screen is good and the build quality is nice, but I'm wondering if that stuff is nice enough to warrant the ~$100 price hike over something like an Anbernic device.

>>8435895
The main draw is the FPGA for 99.99% accuracy to the original hardware, and the display, where the high resolution makes for really good screen filters. I know its silly to get excited for screen filters for Game Boy games of all things
>>8427025
>>8427027
>>8427950

What is currently the best emu handheld, or one that is coming out soon? I don't wanna do the 3ds vita mess.

>>8435970
your current phone.

>>8436059
I would really love something less cumbersome than a phone and a controller. Are there no handhelds with power near to a current phone?

>>8435684
sauce?

>>8436232
The handhelds that as powerful as phones are basically just phones in a new case like the GPD XD 2. There is also stuff like GPD Win 3 and Aya Neo which would be the most powerful but are way more expensive.

>>8419136
Thank goodness my parents didn't buy my brother and I a game gear

>>8435776
>>8423475
>non-standard USB-C (there might be a good reason for this)
couldn't sell the dock if it was fully usb-c-/usb3-alt-mode-compliant

>>8432221
I really regret selling my Nomad 14 years ago. I didn’t use it much, but retro games weren’t popular yet so I only got like $60 for it. Now I’d liked one again and they’re super expensive.

>>8436326
Those are quite nice, will the steam thing be a better option?

>>8436617
Fucking why?
Outside of collection reasons what purpose would getting one now be?

>>8436940
Mostly nostalgia. I had it since I was a kid, and now I could replace the shitty screen with a better IPS screen.

>>8419276
meds

>>8416325
In 10 years there will be clone handhelds running on cheap FPGA's based on the MiSTer open source code. And Analogue will be out of business.

>>8437229
About 150 years ago there was a sucker born every minute. This was due to the lower birth rate and suckerosity of people at the time. Today the birth rate is roughly 250/minute and the rate of suckerosity is 99.999%. There are 525600 minutes in a typical year which means in 10 years there will be 1,313,998,686 suckers born. Assuming 50% will die from tidepods or some shit that still leaves nearly 657 million additional suckers marring the face of this planet in 10 years time. Analogue won't be able to shit their knockoffs out

>>8436559
Explain. Why is it not USB-C?

>>8436795
If the form factor of the Steam Deck is acceptable to you, then a first gen Switch would be better for retro gaming.

>>8437524
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#HDMI_Alternate_Mode_for_USB_Type-C
AP doesn't support it Nintendo-style, because then there'd be no need to buy the dock.

Who can even tell the difference between FPGA and emulation when playing something as simple as a Gameboy game on a modern device anyways?

>>8437441
>Assuming 50% will die from tidepods or some shit

Okay that made me snicker
7/10 it's shit - IGN

An interesting question though: Is suckerosity contagious? If so the number of suckers could rise exponentially with the born suckers converting former non-suckers who then in turn spread it further.

>>8438096
No one, however this at least has some merit as the games run off the actual cartridges and save to them
There is not really much else that does this out of real hardware

>>8435757
Thanks for the explanation

>>8436795
It also depends what you're trying to run. You don't need a Steam Deck if you only want to play up to N64 or Dreamcast games.

>>8438274
But what if I want to play Saturn games?

>got my order in at 8:10, 10 minutes after preorders opened
>group b
fuck

>>8439091
What range was your order number in? Mine was in the 1000s. I feel like I'm gonna be in group C.

This thing is magnificent. The screen is beautiful; it's like having a PVM for your old handhelds. The dot-matrix filters actually look like I'm playing on a dot-matrix display. The colors for colored games pop, and having the ability to change the displays is fun. ROM hacks are so much fun on this.

I've quickly gotten used to the buttons, too. They feel like great 8BitDo quality. The d-pad is larger than the standard Game Boy d-pad, and it's curved so that it hugs my thumb. ABXY has superb snappiness that I believe will age beautifully. The OS, combined with an Everdrive X7, bring the benefits of emulators without sacrificing the feeling of playing on a modernized Game Boy.

>>8439131

>>8433997
Yeah it's way less but since it's all emulator shit and lcd screens there's still lag.

>>8439126
Not that anon but I'm 91xxx. Pretty pissed about this as it seems like I got fucked because I wanted accessories and I got fucked because I got 15 seconds later. That or they ran out of docks and I got fucked into group B
"Everyone that ordered today is either in Group A or Group B :)))))" fuck you Analogue what a way to get a lots of people's hopes up when it's deadly clear that they just had a few thousands to go and you'd be group B is you didn't order pretty much the very second it was up. Looking at order numbers being posted online proves it. But of course they wouldn't tell you any of that shit before ordering
Honestly, I don't wanna wait a whole ass year while they hold my 500$

>>8439540
People on reddit claimed that group A was only 10 unites. No idea if that's true. I got my email and got in group B. I ordered at like 11:30

>>8439558
10 units sounds like a hot load of bullshit, I know someone who got into A too. But it's clear that the numbers were low and it seems like they pulled all the tricks to get your hopes up while not telling you shit

>>8439569
>>8439558
I'm retarded you probably meant 10k
I dunno, looking at order numbers and such it's looking more like 3-5k which is a ridiculously low number for the amount of buzz it got

>>8438096
with certain games I'm super familiar with I can generally tell from the audio delay. I play a fuck ton of panel de pon on real hardware and whenever I emulate via retroarch it's immediately noticeable

Just got my email, Group B. Looks like most people got into that group too.

>>8439137
>>8439131
The screen is genuinely fantastic. Not just the size but it has super low response times which means very very low motion blur (I wonder if it has something to do with the massive resolution on such a tony screen?). The GBP display mode for gameboy in particular is the best these games have ever looked IMO

It's a fucking shame about GBA though and the LCD shader not quite working right. I hope there's eventually some fix for it

>eight hundred and ninety nine dollarinos
Into the trash it goes.

>>8439137
>>8439131
>>8439645
Nice totally genuine and absolutely not shilled posts

>>8419348
Could they be any more hipster? BSD is shit

>>8439672
>talking about new thing I dont like is shilling
fuck off retard

>>8438181
Either it's contagious or there are other disorders that can trigger or exacerbate it. Many pathologies are like that. For example, I know a lot of people who seem to be rational intelligent adults but break out in a childish fit whenever they see the color orange.

Do people really think its a big deal to wait a year for niche products you preordered? Because this has always been the norm. Babby’s first adult purchase lmao

>>8438274
I mean I would love to have access to as much as possible, but I know there is a budget jump if you are trying to get past certain thresholds.
>>8438303
I want to emu saturn games so bad, I tried on pc awhile back but finding things and guides was hard for me for some reason, is this a meme or is it actually possible?
>>8437527
Like get a gen 1 switch and jail break it or w/e? I think that at that size I might just go all out and do the steam deck thing for more options.

>>8439918
I dunno, I have an old CPU by now. I just went into my app repository (Linux), typed Saturn, Yabause was there and it just works?
Not the best emu around I've heard tho'

Why don't you guys just emulate on your phones? They have great displays, you have them always with you anyway and it can even emulate up to 3ds games

>>8439991
>android
>touch screen controls
>battery life
phone emulation sucks and I have no clue why people keep parading it about

>>8439991
Pocket is a much better experience and I'm not poor.

>>8417978
FPGA is a giant meme for emulation. Modern CPUs are so stupidly fucking fast that there is no point in doing hardware emulation. We already have cycle accurate emulators on normal cpus. The hard part of emulation is the actual *EMULATION*. You still have to emulate the original console, whether you do that on a normal cpu or an fpga doesn't make any difference.

>>8439632
emulating on an fpga wouldn't change that. that's a problem with the actual emulator, not the hardware running it.

Really want one but they don't ship to my garbage country. Sucks ass.

>>8440006
But you can't play it outside without looking like a ma child. On a phone no one knows what you do. The analogue still might work better fit boktai tho

>>8439918
Just install mednafen bro. Get the bios, and drag-and-drop it onto the executable. I think retroarch makes it easier but I don’t trust that glowing shit.

>>8440040
Which country, anon?

>>8440023
>emulating on an fpga wouldn't change that
It does though. No audio delay on any of the cores I've used. I can go from real hardware to my mister and it's identical as far as audio is concerned. I've yet to find a snes emulator that doesn't have noticeable audio delay to some degree

>>8440015
wrong. I'd greatly prefer FPGA become the primarily platform for emulation going forward strictly from a preservation standpoint. Right now FPGA has a number of advantages over traditional software emulation. The pocket can connect to an actual gamecube. It's compatible with the gameboy camera. It can interface with actual carts and make use of any special hardware within

I don't fucking care if you "don't care lol" about those sorts of things, the fact is that current FPGA emulation solutions are miles ahead of software emulators in terms of replacing original hardware

>>8440123
>I think retroarch makes it easier but I don’t trust that glowing shit.
>that glowing shit
What?

>>8440002
because in theory it should be good. it has enough power to easily do gamecube. in practice, it doesn't work well though because of input lag on controllers

>>8440116
I have no problem playing gaming devices in public.

>>8440265
ignore the /x/ schizo. but mednafen is the best bet for Saturn emulation, if you want to use Retroarch, the core is called Beetle, but it’s a fork of mednafen that’s pretty far removed but I think similar in features.

I blow $300 on a weekend and don’t even think twice about it. That amount of money is literally meaningless to me. If I get a few hours of fun out if this, it’s still well below what I earn per hour. Sorry that you can’t afford it, late state capitalism is a joke.

>>8440441
>I blow $300 on a weekend and don’t even think twice about it.
you thought about it when you made the purchase and you thought about it when you made this post

>>8440132
Not the anon you're lying to, but you're lying.
Just because you can't tell the difference in your imaginary comparison that you totally did doesn't mean there is none. There are differences between different consoles that are the same model/version.whatever. This is a well known fact amongst people who actually know what they're talking about. So when you make silly claims like that you're just outing yourself as a low IQ know-nothing.

>refresh the store page like a retard on preorder day
>get in the queue immediately
>still get to wait a minute
>speed run check out (and forgot to get the screen protector)
>group B, Q4 2022
what the fuck

>>8441234
>group B, Q4 2022
charging cc now or upon shipping?

>>8441384
they already took the money for a product I'll see next year

>>8441389
Thanks for the interest-free loan.

>>8441389
>1eur=1.12usd
fug, euro really took a slump. was around 1.17 not long ago