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>>8405608
>Kraid
Now retconned so that he was always a giant.

>>8405595
Jeremy looks fucking thrilled to be photographed with some guy in a fursuit instead of one of the players.

>>8405708
>Not even calling them Nester Awards anymore
He's not long for this magazine now.

>>8405721
Really? All the times you've covered Street Fighter II at this point and you forget how to spell Hadouken?

>>8405717
The letters page had a comment from the editor about readers upset that NP isn't talking about NES games much due to the console being on the way out. It truly is the end of one era and the start of the next.

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>>8405738
It's funny how this is where Samus's now-canon backstory was originally conceived, in an obscure comic of a magazine that wasn't even made in Japan.

>>8405684
Fun facts: The SNES version of Spectre makes no mention of the plot of the game which was in the manuals for the Mac original and DOS port. The idea is that you're a hacker who gets burned by someone and stuck in the net without the ability to jack out, thus you need to fight your way out. The game was also ported to the FM Towns in Japan as Megaspectre. The game also had a Mac-exclusive sequel with Spectre Supreme, which added a sub-space to levels(literally below the level), more enemies, traps, and weapons. Later on Spectre was upgraded with the enhancements from Spectre Supreme and given a graphical upgrade and called Spectre VR, which was published on the Mac and for DOS machines.
The additional weapons and sub-space adds so much to the game, I honestly can't recommend anyone playing any Spectre game other than Supreme or VR.

>>8405810
>Even 100 megabits of Metroid wouldn't be enough
Oh, you'll see...

>>8405868
The first issue with no NES games at all to speak of.

>>8405804
>top 2 SNES games locked up by SF2 and MK2
>Mega Man X and Aladdin behind NHL Stanley Cup
>>8405809
>Wario Land out for 3 months
>sitting in #10
>Super Mario Land out since launch
>sitting in #7
>Baseball Stars out-ranking Startropics 2, Zelda 2, Battletoads, and SMB2
>Vegas Dream beating Tetris
Mid-1994 was a weird time for Nintendo consoles.

>>8405932
I thought this was set before Final Fight.

>>8405979
And thus, Nintendo Power ends the comics section.

>>8405583

Stop doing this Nintendo Power

>>8405590

They kicked Nester out of the magazine, but this crappy artist who does the weird little interstitial comics gets to stay? Gail Tilden needs to do an editorial explaining this.

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>>8406016
Six pages NP just spent on a GB title that didn't actually make it out of Europe. Must have gotten cancelled VERY late in the process.

>>8405982
What? No it didn't. There was blast corps and killer instinct after this.

More later.

>>8406075
And they were very few and far between from this point on, nothing at all like the regular monthly comics of Mario, Zelda, Star Fox, and Metroid, plus Nester's antics with and without Howard.

I find it very likely that Itoh wanted to keep Super Metroid going for the full year like he did with Star Fox, but NP pulled the plug on the comics and so he had to wrap it up before he could start on any original stories. Why else would he tease Ridley escaping and have such an abrupt ending?

Time for announced but unreleased games.

CyberSlider AKA Keeper - Bullet-Proof Software (SNES)
Super Famicom title, dunno why it didn't get brought over in the end. Either way you can play the JP original since it's a simple puzzle game.

Everything else has already been covered in prior threads, but let's look at that new info about Future Zone:
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>>8406047
Huh, didn't know Socks the Cat made it to the Review stage of NP.
>>8406048
I like that even Nintendo Power knows a Godzilla game where you're not supposed to smash buildings is a real negative.

>>8405751
I must have read this comic a million times as a kid. I was obsessed with Metroid's lore. Hate how Nintendo has handled it, kinda sucks.

>>8405603
>The falling gates will block your way unless you have the extra acceleration of the Speed Booster
*laughs in mockball*

>>8405592
>You are doing a great job in ... keeping video games sane (Mortal Kombat)

???
Is he saying the censorship was a good thing? I've never seen one person express this opinion, ever.

>>8405709
>Mega Man 5
>most challenging game of the year

more like easiest game of the year WTF

>>8405773
They asked for Duck Tales 2 in the previous issue but are now giving results for "DUCKTALES" (in one word)

>>8406280

Yeah I don't know what else he could be referring to there. He might be some kind of retardedly religious person or something. I don't find it hard to believe that some people thought Nintendo's treatment of that game was good.

>>8405592

Dawn was bored by the Only in Japan section, but enjoyed the big pointless spreadsheet of game titles? That is some terrible taste.

>>8405615

Is that something they did in a remake or whatever? I haven't played any 2D Metroid newer than this one.

>>8405634

The mouths on Joe and Mac in this picture make me uncomfortable. Those look like the faces of ancient pedophiles. I side with the triceratops this time.

>>8406560
The original Metroid had Kraid be no bigger than Samus, then Super had him grow into a giant. Metroid Zero Mission for GBA was a remake of the original Metroid and introduced multiple changes and retcons to match up with Super, so Kraid was changed to have always been a giant lizard monster.

>>8405618
I thought this was supposed to be a game review. Fucking spoilers, man...

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>>8405695
after watching the absolute shitshow abortion that was TGA, it's so refreshing to look at this stuff
no agenda pushing, just game
it really does feel like we entered the dark timeline sometime around 2005

>>8405646

I have less than zero interest in The Jetsons, but this game actually looks pretty good.

>>8406106

I’m surprised the Star Fox and Metroid comics haven’t been collected yet like Mario and Zelda were.

>>8405675

This Hardball III review is harsh. Usually they save this kind of criticism for Now Playing, but I guess the sports section is different. Well, really, they'd probably just try not to cover a game at all outside Now Playing, if they mainly had this kind of thing to say about it. So maybe this is a ramification of the effort to play up how big the SNES sports library is compared to the Genesis one - in order to do that, they need to say something substantial about EVERY sports game.

>>8407442
Try the Japanese version. Since The Jetsons is mostly unknown over there, they redid the whole game with different characters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICHKK8sZaow

>>8408532
>play as a cute girl
All games should do this.

>>8405746
>MOTHER BRAIN
>YOUR ARMS ARE TUUUUUUUUBES

>>8408157
This will always be funny to me.
>kids point out how the Genesis is mostly crappy sports games as a dig at Sega
>Nintendo staffers hear of it, assume kids are raving about how the Genesis has tons of sports titles
>"Look everyone, we have more sports titles than they do!"
>kids: *pic related*

>>8408532

Awesome! I guess I will.

>>8409142
Unless you have some special attachment to the jetsons the japanese version really is the way to go. You get an extra boss fight and a super secret bonus for winning on hard. Please dont actually do that, its a silly underwhelming bit of nothing.

>>8409078
people loved sports games though

>>8409078
>We have more bad shovelware sports titles that run like shit than Genesis
Fixed.

>>8409568
I know I was like "oh, that's disappointing" when I saw an NP issue in these threads mention there were plans to get a Mutant League onto SNES but they never happened. Mutant League is wonderful.

>>8406313
>more like easiest game of the year WTF

It was the most high-numbered Mega Man game of the year which is what these awards seem to generally really be about. Which Mega Man game came out the most recently?

On the Super NES, kids got confused because X wasn't a number but it sort of looked like one, so their brains crashed and spat out the nonsensical result "Secret of Mana is very challenging." And then Nintendo Power was obliged to publish it.

>>8405712
>With all the controversy over Finishing Moves and amounts of blood,

They still aren't explicitly acknowledging that any blood-related change was made.

>>8405750
>I can't let them harm the chairman!

Poor unloved Hardy

>>8405792
>OK, big evil bad guy/beautiful kidnapped princess...it's not an original premise.

I'm tired of seeing them point this out over and over. "Save the kidnapped VIP" or "stop the Evil One from taking over the world" or "stop the aliens from destroying humanity" is a perfectly respectable premise for an action game. Yes it'd be better to do something cool and new, but it's not really a problem if somebody just sticks with the old patterns.

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Both Knights of the Round and King of Dragons should have
>Minus: Not one of the playable characters is a lightly armored musclegirl.

>>8405826
>Rental Only

A company did that???

>>8411353
Iirc Final Fight Guy was also only available through Blockbuster rentals. Not sure why they'd do that. They already produced the carts and packaging, why not just sell it for max profit?

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>>8411374
Hagane was also a rental only.

>>8411353
Blockbuster made deals like that sometimes. They did it a lot on N64 for some reason

>>8405587
Has skateboarding ever not been used as advertising?

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>>8411424
The idea was the game would only be available through rental at first, then be for mass sale later. This was supposed to appeal to companies since they had to pay Nintendo for the carts before they even sold one, keeping the initial cost low while they gauged interest in the game. Then they could order up as many carts as they thought would actually sell. But those games did poorly compared to the popular rentals like MK2 and SF2.
It didn't translate to the sales numbers they thought it would. This is due to the majority of the gamers only getting a new game or two on birthdays and for christmas. So if they rented a game they liked and couldn't get it for one of those two days, they would have had to needed to be really impressed by the game to still want it next year. Which meant putting your game in competition with about two years worth of releases. Funny enough, most devs saw this coming and that's why most the titles are shovelware by Ocean and THQ. Eek the Cat was just a reskin of Sleepwalker, which wasn't very good to begin with.
TL;DR:Blockbuster thought they had a good plan to help devs and get exclusives for themselves. It was a shit plan and everyone knew it.

>>8405831
>it's enough to make even a hedgehog salivate.

If the N64 can defeat Sega, then surely it will reign unrivaled...!

>>8405959
Those graphs are still relevant today given how modern AAA games are hyped up, sell millions on release, then promptly bargain binned and abandoned by the majority of players after a few months because they all moved to the next AAA game coming out.
Meanwhile there are evergreen titles like Mario and Skyrim that may not recieve that initial rampup on launch, but people continue to buy copies even years later and go back and play them over and over again.

>>8405870

These are all terrible.

>>8405914

This doesn't really sound like much of an improvement for casual players. Which is to say, there are no new characters. But apparently this version of the game was another one of those rental-only Blockbuster exclusives, which somewhat makes up for that.

Also the one guide for it at GameFAQs seems to suggest that the balance changes it made were probably pretty good. Too bad they didn't have downloadable patches for console games back then. Of course it might have encouraged incomplete releases which would suck, but I do like the idea of Capcom officially making the dagger less overwhelmingly overpowered in Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts. And of course these fighting games will almost always need tweaking.
Fixing bugs before release should be expected, but perfecting balance before release is not always feasible.

>>8405963
>press the center of the direction pad

???

>>8406025
>"Nintendo has no plans to introduce Game Boy with a color display,"

>>8406029

It's interesting that they used a password system for saving colors (and maybe also controller configurations??) instead of a battery. I guess the passwords are probably very short.

Thanks

>>8406550
I always doubted whether any of those letters were real.

>>8405709
>Theme and FUN
based manachads keep on winning

>>8405727
pretty sure i fapped to this page

>>8405742
MUTHA BRAAAAIN

>>8416851
Give it a few more years.

>>8417035
>"Feed me, Seymour!"

>>8417146

No, I won't. I need it by early winter of 1994. It is occasionally too difficult to distinguish character from background in my Prehistorik Man game, and all of us gamers are absolutely unable to tolerate it anymore. My ninth grade class will be going on a ski trip and setting up a Super Game Boy on the bus is NOT AN OPTION.

>>8405740
Forgot how this comic was even the origin of Samus suit being powered by her mind/concentration

>>8406048
>Fatal Fury 2
>Minus: Some special moves are particularly brutal to control.
Nintendo Power can't pretzel motion.