/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8332847
See? It was always "possibly", not "pawsibly". The puns were in the stage names and not Bubsy's one-liners.

>>8332874
>"Wow, are you still playing this game?!"

>>8332769
>july 93
>only 50 bucks

No wonder everyone had one

>>8332909
Probably the second-worst contest nightmare was getting to see the sequel to The Mask being made, only for the film to be cancelled. The winner was offered money and games as an alternate prize, which he took.

>>8332936
Was Peppy supposed to be telepathic in this comic? Because that really would have helped James back in the day.

>>8332971
Coming never.

Issue #51

>>8333207
Julie is stacked.

>>8333262
The game that started Shinji Mikami's career.

>>8333498
>Games with "Super" in their names, but not for the super nes
>Tecmo Super Bowl

>>8333558
>how much money can you finish Duck Tales 2 with?

In theory you could max out the number considering you can replay stages, but it'd take a long fucking time

>>8333091

check out some of that early build shots. the 3rd one shows a building breaking with that flying ship overhead?

>>8333594
>TMNT still in the top charts 3 years after release and even surpasses TMNT3 which is more recent, sticks closer to the source material and has co-op

>>8333631
Oh shit, beta screenshots of MM6 I had never seen. Gotta add that to TCRF

More later.

Time for announced but unreleased games.

Asterix The Gaul AKA Asterix - Listed as Electro Brain, but it was actually Infogrames (SNES)
A EU developed game for the PAL SNES that was gonna be ported over but got abandoned for whatever reason. You can just play the PAL original, it was made with PAL consoles in mind so it's not at a weird speed.

The Journey Home AKA Neugier: Umi to Kaze no Kodō - Listed as Renovation, but was Namco Tales Studio (SNES)
A relatively short and easy Super Famicom action RPG. Not really sure why it didn't get ported in the end. A fan translation exists. https://www.romhacking.net/translations/398/

Warriors of Rome 3 - Extreme (SNES)
A RTS game that was supposed to support the SNES Mouse, as well as be released on the Genesis at the same time. The first two were released on the Genesis and made by Micronet. No prototype has surfaced of this or the Genesis version.

Popeye AKA Popeye: Ijiwaru Majo Seahag no Maki - American Technos (SNES)
A strange cross between Mario Party and 2D Platformers. Was supposed to be ported, but got axed in the end. Fan translation exists. https://www.romhacking.net/translations/1355/

River Raid AKA River Raid Mission of No Return AKA River Raid 3 - Activision (SNES)
Was in development but got cancelled. Either a prototype or some source code of the game exists in the hands of one of the devs who can't release it for legal reasons(NDA's).

More in next post.

>>8333786
G2 AKA Genocide 2 - Kemco (SNES)
Was originally intended for international release, as evidenced by the english text dump story parts accessible with a cheat, they ended up just releasing it in Japan. Originally a JP computer action game. No fan translation exists, but I'm not sure one is needed.

Operation Alien - THQ (SNES)
Was shown at this CES, and never seen or heard from again. No sign of the prototype exists.

Steven Seagal AKA Steven Seagal Is The Final Option - TecMagik (SNES)
A bland beat em up that was cancelled. The incomplete prototype was found and dumped years ago. https://hiddenpalace.org/w/images/5/5f/Steven_Seagal_is_The_Final_Option_%28Prototype%29.7z

Firehawk - Sony Imagesoft (SNES)
Only heard about at this show, and never heard from again. No prototype has surfaced. Not even a screenshot.

Socks AKA Socks the Cat Rocks The Hill - Kaneko (SNES)
A platformer based on President Clinton's cat. Was cancelled shortly before being finished, and the prototype was hoarded for years by DreamTR(yep, him again), who actually made a very poor quality and blurry video of the gameplay just to show everyone "LOOK WHAT I HAVE!". Someone finally bought it off of him and made repros through a kickstarter and it was finally dumped and made publicly available. https://hiddenpalace.org/w/images/3/3a/Socks_the_Cat_Rocks_the_Hill.zip

Fido Dido - Kaneko (SNES)
A game based on an advertising mascot for 7UP, since Cool Spot was so oddly successful. Was supposed to be based off of the original comics the company licensed the character from according to one of the devs. Was supposed to be an SNES and Genesis release. While the Genesis prototype was found and dumped, so far only the devs that worked on the SNES version are known to have any working ROM. One dev posted a few screenshots of the SNES version back in 2014, but refuses to release the ROM(NDA's).

Whew, those CES shows are always full of vaporware. Till next time folks.

>>8332756
Never stop OP.

>>8333961
What's the big archive for all this? I'd love to look through some of the later issues, especially those from 97.

>>8332772

What the hell is going on in that cartoon?

>>8332943
>seven dungeons
It was 8 but okay

>>8332796

Could this be the first appearance of the word "sexiest" in any Nintendo-branded publication?

>>8332830

I love this game.

>>8332835

I do not love this game.

>>8332905

George & Rob's Now Playing at last commemorated as the failure that it was. Haha the timeline at the bottom even points out their removal as a major special event.

>>8332909
>It became pretty apparent that the only celebs readers were interested in were those who were true video game fans.

I like the thought that people were sending them letters to complain about that.

>>8332910
>Plus the Power Challenge Trading Cards are cool collectibles that may be worth even more than the free Game Paks you can win with a winning set of cards.

Today they appear to be worth about a dollar each, according to eBay.

>>8333058
50 pounds of quarters is 1000 dollars.

>>8337389
>Prize #1 is 50 games(at $50 a game, $2,500)
>Prize #2 is 5 copies of 5 GB games and 5 GB's(at $50 a game and $100 a GB, $1,750)
>Prize #3 is $500 gift certificate($500)
>Prize $4 is a single day at the arcade on the house(50 players spending 2 quarters every 3 minutes over 8 hours = 40 quarters an hour per person = $4,000 if you have 50 fucking friends)
>Prize $5 is $1,000 in quarters($1,000)
If the winner took anything besides option #1, they were a retarded child. Picking $500 worth of videogames over 50 videogames would be grade A stupid. Picking the GB multiplayer pack when all that was available at the time was racing, sports, Ultima Runes of Virtue, Fortified Zone, and a bunch of small screen versions of NES games? Madness. A single trip to the arcade that would probably be less than 8 hours due to parents? I could see a stupid kid falling for the sack of quarters if they were REALLY into arcade gaming, but by this time the arcade scene was starting to die down anyways.

>>8333078

A minus they missed for Tuff E Nuff: Players are discouraged from trying the game by its aggressively unpleasant box art.

>>8337443

One possible catch: It doesn't say you get to pick the games yourself, I think? Maybe you'd end up with a big pile of those Addams Family and Crash Test Dummies games the magazine keeps pushing.

I can't wait for the issue with Mega Man X on the cover and review.

>>8337486
What're you talking about? That box is 90's comicbook kino.

>>8333863
Is it possible "Firehawk" is just Skyblazer with a different localized name?

>>8337662

It is trying way too hard. The title is garbage and the front of the box doesn't even bother to clearly tell you what it is. The angry orc with the hole in his head and the saliva pillars is supposed to be cool but to me those features don't read "cool". As a kid I always perceived this, at a glance, as a game that must be so bad that its marketers had decided disguising it as licensed garbage would actually make it look BETTER.

Maybe it worked for some kids though, I don't know. Anyway, it looks ilke the actual game is a perfectly respectable Street Fighter clone. I probably should have rented it instead of intuiting that it was worthless and passing over it every time. But I was a kid and therefore too stupid for that.

This took me back. Thank you anon.

>>8337768
I doubt it. Some guy on facebook dedicated to preserving everything Solstice has a 1993 Sony Imagesoft Press/Media Kit that shows Firehawk, and it doesn't sound like Skyblazer or any other game Sony Imagesoft ever made. Pic related.

>>8333446
This snes double dragon continue trick has to be an underflow glitch or whatever right?

>>8333617
I'll say for one that it's interesting to see how the Top 20 for SNES games has been a more volatile and shifting mix compared to the Gameboy and NES's constant unmoving lock.

>>8332756
This one's cool, cuz it's got an owl, and owls are cool

>>8332928
If Slippy can get himself a girlfriend then why can't any of you?

>>8333086

PTO getting SMASHED in the Play Control category! Is this the lowest score we've seen for any SNES game? It makes me want to try the game just so I can see whether it's really very bad. (And also, it might be a fun game.)

>>8333087

Didn't Turbo introduce the ability to play as the four bosses? If so, I wonder why they didn't mention that. It's by far the biggest thing that stood out to me as a kid, anyway (since I was a casual player who couldn't really appreciate the smaller refinements they added).

>>8333089
>The loudest of these myths is that Mortal Kombat will be made into some wimpy shadow of its arcade self.

Not one mention of the blood color! I assume that decision would have been made by this point and that they were tiptoeing around it a little here?

>In an interview with MEL Magazine, Jeff Peters, Project Director of Mortal Kombat for Sculptured Software, said the developers' hands were tied when it came to Nintendo's stance on gore.

>"We did the best we could to make the best game possible within the rules and constraints we were given," Peters said. "Still, everyone believed the sweat and altered fatalities actually hurt sales on the SNES. If you wanted the gore, you bought the Sega version. If you wanted the better playing and looking game, you bought the SNES. As a consumer, those were your main decision points."

>>8333786
>River Raid 3

There was a River Raid 2?

>>8338635

Oh wait the very next issue features the game. I guess I'll be reminded soon enough then.

>>8338615
P.T.O (Pacific Theater of Operations) is one of Koei's 80 million console strategy games, you either like them or you don't. Most likely whoever got stuck reviewing it at NP wasn't a fan.

I liked P.T.O II, so I'd probably enjoy the first one if I ever played it.

Bless you OP

>>8333069
>Troddlers

Oh hey, had this game as a kid. Never got too far though.

>>8333119

What a bizarre letter.

>>8333129

Somehow they keep finding new ways to make Guile look repulsive.

>>8333259

Nester breaking the fourth wall made me laugh.

>>8332756
Still one of the all time greatest magazine covers

>>8333579

I never got anywhere in this game as a kid.

>>8333064
>>8333594
>Zelda II is still in the Top 20 ranked NES games well into 1993

I'm starting to think that the whole "Everyone always hated Zelda II" is a load of horse shit.

>>8333589
>>8333594

Wait they say Link's Awakening is scoring high because of "anticipation" for it?? Has it actually even come out yet? If not, who is voting for it? Dumb kids who think their favorite game is something they haven't played yet? Dealers who have received preorders? Pros who have actually played it because they work for Nintendo?

Or maybe it has come out and they just worded that strangely.

>>8332905
I'm glad George and Rob is getting called out for being the bullshit it is

>>8343374
It's August 93 issue which is the same month LA came out in the US

I wouldn't be surprised if they faked some of those numbers to help market the games Nintendo wanted to market

>>8333597
>What did you think of the Super Mario Bros. movie?

I want to see the distribution of responses to this question...

>If Ryu can throw a Fireball every 2 seconds, how many can he throw in a 90 second fight?

I would also like to know how many different answers to this question they decided to consider correct.

>>8343828
>It's called zoning, and it's a legitimate tactic.

>>8333612

I think this might be the first time (in the Nigel Mansell review) Nintendo Power has referred to itself as "Power".

>>8333863
>Originally a JP computer action game.

That's interesting. What platform?

>>8343295
TMNT is still up there as well. "TMNT was always disliked as a crap game" is a load of revisionist shit too.

>>8344141
Sharp X68000.

>>8343295
>>8344263
And remember how the results are tabulated, meaning any combination of the following three things:
- Young gamers are buying it and loving it
- Older gamers are buying it and loving it
- Retailers are selling it

>>8333091
>That MMX Demo
So much got improved, the biggest outlier being that the intro stage is at night instead of broad daylight, what an upgrade.

>>8333653
Cute Pit

>>8343828
>If Ryu can throw a Fireball every 2 seconds, how many can he throw in a 90 second fight?
>I would also like to know how many different answers to this question they decided to consider correct.
Wouldn't it just be 45?

>>8345023

Yeah that's surely the answer, but if the attack is imagined to take no time then he could cram in one at the beginning and one at the end, allowing room for 46. I bet a few kids went down that path because they thought it might be a trick question.

>>8344308

Complicating everything a little further (I think?) is the fact that the "Players" score is artificially filtered by the arbitrary choice of games on the Players' Poll response card. If your favorite game is Phantom Fighter or The Legend of Kage then you don't get to honestly vote. I don't suppose that makes a huge difference though. It's just a bit lame.

>>8345151
You just know there had to have been at least one autistic kid who figured out the exact start up and recovery frames of a hadouken and calculated exactly down to the frame how many could fit into 90 seconds.

>>8333643
>Seventh Saga may be the most playable true RPG ever made for the Super NES

I never played that game myself, but this doesn't seem to match what I've heard about it.

>Finally, a true Star Trek game.

It's funny to see what might be hints of an anonymous writer's fandom. On another page they gave some Star Trek game a minus because it wouldn't let you hail opponents during battles, presumably because Star Trek is more about diplomacy than fighting... and I think they pointed out that Aliens vs. Predator didn't use the storyline from "the comics" or something like that.

>>8345165
Yeah, that was an unfortunate holdover from the early years. Back when they started they had a list of 87 NES games for people to pick from. At the time they launched, there were 105 NES games. Baseball, Clu Clu Land, Gyromite, Soccer, Stack-Up, Wild Gunman, and Wrecking Crew are some of the titles that were excluded from the list. Even from the start they tended to push older titles off the list to make way for new stuff, even if the new stuff was obvious shovelware like Mickey's Safari in Letterland. Personally I think Baseball, Soccer, or Wrecking Crew was far more likely to get a vote than Jeopardy, Jaws, Gotcha The Sport, or fucking Chesterfield(since no kid in the US could play a game they didn't release), but I wasn't an NP editor. Pic related, look under the C's. They actually had it as an option for favorite game. They did this all the time. >>8333602 shows the option to vote for Taz-Mania for the NES, or The Legend of Zod for Game Boy.

>>8334957
Kid's dreading going on the tour bus because he's in the middle of a Link Cable game.

>>8346316

If he belongs on the bus then why did he bring his own steed? You don't need a bus AND a saddledog.

>>8333602
>>8346157
Frankly this also had its advantages imo. The NES list has Batman Returns, and nobody cared about the NES version of Batman Returns (which honestly was probably made because Konami could advertise both the NES and the SNES version on the same one ad, which they did a lot); the game was barely even reviewed in magazines and yet here it is giving it a chance to shine

Can't believe we're at 50 already.

>>8332756
test

For anyone who collects/hoards these like me, Retromags is in the process of adding a bunch more. Assuming they actually get around to uploading the ones they say they're scanning (so far they're following through), the following issues are still left unavailable online, to my knowledge:
>Issues 167, 182, 186-192, 194, 196-202, 204-208, 212-225, 227-230, 234-236, 251-253, 255-271, 273-285.
If anyone has these issues or knows where to find them online, please share in this thread! Similarly, if anyone is missing any issues I did not list above and can't find them, let me know and I can point you in the right direction. I believe the vast majority can be found between Retromags and archive.org.

>>8333863
>Socks AKA Socks the Cat Rocks The Hill - Kaneko (SNES)

One of the most highly publicized SNES games to never be released.

>>8349358

Socks is pretty cute in it. As in reality.

Thanks.

>>8332994
I just played this last year - it's a hidden gem.

>>8351530
Try playing the SNES original. It's just called The Addams Family. It's the same game but Gomez instead of Pugsley, more levels, and better graphics and sound.

Grazi