/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8189763
>newfag doesn't know how to Sage

>>8189880
Goddamn, Actraiser, FF2, AND Super Castlevania all competing for best graphics/sounds? Tough competition.
>>8189883
>most innovative
>Actraiser doesn't get listed
Genius is never recognized in its time

Issue 35

Back by popular demand!

>>8189582
love this. thanks anon!!!

>>8190228
Fucking based...

More later.

>>8190253
>mentions the Players, Pros, and Dealers
>remove the lists so we can't tell how that's factoring into the top 20s

>>8189737
"Schlooop"

Time for announced but unreleased games. Starting with NES.

Blazebusters AKA Super Rescue AKA Flying Hero - Nexsoft/ASCII and CSG Imagesoft
Back when CSG Imagesoft was working on Super Sushi Pinball, they were also trying to bring over Flying Hero, only they called it Super Rescue. Didn't get far. This time around ASCII is trying to bring it over as Blazebusters. Didn't happen. Either way it's a very simple Arkanoid type game involving firefighters. No wonder it got cancelled. No fan translation exists, but none is needed.

Super Square Deal AKA Square Deal AKA Great Deal - Hector
Weird cross between Tetris and Poker. Was supposed to be Super Square Deal on the NES, and Square Deal on the GB. Not 100% sure about the GB version, but the NES version got cancelled. Prototype was found and dumped, where the title screen calls it Square Deal, but the cartridge was labeled Great Deal.
https://hiddenpalace.org/w/images/a/aa/Square_Deal_%28Prototype%29.zip

Now for GB.

Tricks & Traps AKA Mad Magazine's Official Spy vs Spy - Kemco
Japanese port of the Spy VS Spy games, same gameplay but no split screen. Was gonna get brought over to the US, but didn't in the end. No fan translation exists, but none is really needed.

See you folks next thread.

>>8190753
Is there any archive of all of these? Would love some turn of the millenium issues or the start of the Gamecube.

>>8189606

Were these NES Star Wars games any good, or is Nintendo Power just trying to help milk value from the big-name license?

>>8189618

Haha the Terminator fighting a boss who is just some random human... who is mainly distinguished by the fact that he is far larger than Arnold. That is not how you capture the flavor of a license.

I played through this game on a rental as a kid. I remember perceiving it to be not very good yet still somehow likable.

>>8189738
That's odd. The bundled reprint of the comic made several changes to the dialogue to correct oddities or repeated phrases, but if this is the original magazine printing, Luigi should be going YAHOO in panel 8. Not a big deal, but just something I noticed.

>>8189656

Wow, just vomiting out a bunch of ordinary Captain Planet passwords because the game is apparently too hard and boring or whatever and they want people to see more than the first stage.

>>8189659
>nonsense word BANCHOU
It's official from the source at Nintendo, moonrunes are nonsense.
NOW WE'RE PLAYING WITH POWER!

>>8190753
>Flying Hero

Isn't there a SNES game with this name? Related?

>>8191758
What are you talking about?

>>8191902
The SNES game is Flying Hero: Bugyuru no Daibouken, and has absolutely nothing to do with Flying Hero. Different devs, different publishers, different gameplay.

>>8189674

This comic continues to be boring. Also I'm really becoming irritated with that pointless custom of putting arbitrary key words in bold italics.

>>8190267
>SF2 SNES
>looks and plays like the original
>some people think it's better than the arcade

Why does Nintendo Power get away with these lies?

>>8191915

Read the Captain Planet entry in that Classified Information. It looked like they figured the game was too hard for too many kids and so were just sharing normal progress-saving passwords the game would give you if you advanced through it normally, in order to let those kids try other parts of it than the first chunk. I could be wrong though - I have not played the game.

>>8189739

Yoshi was born with a saddle on his back. Truly a servant of mankind.

>>8189582
>>8189589
>>8189591
Fuuuck this takes me back. I don't think I can go on

>>8189742

Oh I guess he wasn't really being born then. Anyway this new character is weird and dumb, and I don't like how Mario keeps saying Weege over and over.

>>8189746

Huh, my sister was briefly into bands like that... but this is my first time hearing of Trixter.

I guess the big names would have been too raunchy for Nintendo, and might not have cared to associate themselves with this cheesy magazine anyhow.

>>8190287
how can I download these all at once?...

>>8190767
This will probably satiate you, but sadly there does not seem to be any archive with every single issue
https://archive.org/details/NintendoPower1988-2004

>>8189886

Huh, Nester's world has changed. Did we get a different artist or just a different style from the old one?

>>8189890

Wait you can finish Klax? ...Oh it's the stupid Game Boy version. Well that doesn't necessarily matter then.

Lots of "Finished" on this page and hardly any scores. Time to start recognizing a different kind of achievement maybe? I sorta remember that they actually did that, in fact, albeit with only one or two special challenges given per issue. I participated in one or two of them as a kid, and got my name in the magazine. It was fun.

>>8189893

George and Nintendo Power don't know the term "ice floe". Nice job everybody.

>>8189897

Clearly neither of them played Wizardry II for more than a few minutes. Why even bother?

And there's Rob getting stuck on another simple puzzle game and asking for an in-game hint system. George is like, "Actually it's really easy, stupid."

>>8189898

Now Rob is having trouble with Smart Ball of all things. I really dislike Rob.

>>8194053
They're both complete idiots. He wants a hint? Good thing the game play counselors work in the next cubicle over. But I guess he didn't think to ask one.

>>8189920

Over a quarter of readers "really like" advertisement and want more of them?!?

>>8189930

Wow what a pathetic NES lineup. No wonder Mario 3 is unbeatable in the popularity charts. I mean Yoshi is probably okay but those other two...

>>8194590
It's the first ad in the magazine since they started, and it means the price won't go up for a subscription. Some people were willing to make that sacrifice. Others like me voted to say FUCK THE ADS, and were willing to pay more a year for the same old ad-free NP.

>>8194598
It's April 1992, the SNES has launched, all you can look forward to at this point is Darkwing Duck, Panic Restaurant, Adventure Island 3, Dragon Warrior 4, Gargoyles Quest 2, Power Blade 2, Little Sampson, Mega Man 5 & 6, DuckTales 2, StarTropics 2, Fire'N'Ice, and Kirby's Adventure. The rest is mostly shovelware or poor crap.

>>8189980

I wonder about how they learn these secrets. Here in the Gradius III section they claim to have discovered more secret areas that couldn't be published previously because they hadn't been found yet, suggesting that some player actually spent time searching for them. Did that really happen, and if so was it a reader or a Nintendo employee? Or did they just hold off on publishing them all at once so they'd have more material to print later (in which case the story about agents finding the other areas later would be a lie)?

I always figured some of these more obscure codes had to be fed to the magazine by the developers, because otherwise how would you ever learn them? But now I know that disassembly is possible, and that things can be discovered that way... I imagine they probably just heard it from the developers though.

And probably at least a few glitch exploitations and such came in from readers. I sent one in once, but I don't think it ever got printed.

>>8190028

Huh, Link says Agahnim "killed" his uncle. I'd thought they were avoiding that word because of Nintendo's child-friendliness rules - prior to this I think they just said he was "terminated" or some such. Guess not though. I think we didn't see any blood at the time, anyway. I guess Mortal Kombat doesn't even exist, so surely they aren't willing to show blood yet.

>>8194814
I think most of the codes are re-printed from Japanese magazines, which got the info from the devs. There is no way in >>8189659 the "nonsense word BANCHOU" is just some random thing they stumbled across unless they knew ahead of time.

>>8190091

It's disconcerting when these Game Boy golf games don't even try to draw a behind-the-player view. Is it even legal to have a golf game without that?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDyc51ojlF8

>>8190118
>>8190120

1992... so much hype. little did we know...

>>8190312

more like someone from marketing pointed out that was giving away usable info

>>8191196

they were definitely fully developed games. but as games they were meh, and played fast and loose with the license.

>>8194839

Ah yeah I forgot how these games were all secondhand for Americans. Of course the Japanese magazine employees could have done some kind of disassembly thing, but a random magazine isn't going to go to that much trouble I suppose. Did Japan have an official Nintendo magazine though? Regardless, probably nobody would bother with examination of machine code for so little benefit. I could see it just being standard, well-worn procedure for publishers to include information about secrets in their normal communications announcing games to magazines.

>>8194895
I remember it was an early episode of GCCX I think when he still did interviews one of the people was saying magazines wouldn't cover your game unless you put secrets in it. So they did, and then gave the mags the answers in order to get published / advertising.

>>8194875

And I doubt that that page was ever actually popular with readers. I never cared about it at all as a kid. I only looked at the main list. I miss it now, though. I've found it entertaining, while reading these threads.

>>8194901

Ah right because non-official magazines especially would have a financial incentive to reward players with secrets for buying issues. Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

>>8190103

Whoa are we getting into a prototype of the Mario Sunshine plot now?

>>8190105

Haha this comic's princess is such a fireball. She seems to be less than sane, but she's definitely more interesting than the Mario Sunshine princess!

>>8190116

Yeah this is way better than the Zelda comic.

>>8190118

Wow it's been so long since I encountered this usage of the term "multimedia". People were pushing that word so hard then... what a bunch of fluff it seems to have been.

>>8190120

Man this CD add-on thing sounds awful. More FMV in my Mario games, whoop-de-do. Kids who only had Nintendo systems were lucky they didn't have to be exposed to that crap any earlier than necessary, though Nintendo suffered for it.

>>8190126

This might be the least nerdy-looking game counselor yet.

>>8197164
Sounds like you're just coping Nintendo didn't jump into the CD-ROM format earlier than their competitors. There were plenty of good stuff on the PC Engine and Sega CD if you ignore all the FMV junk.

>>8190129

The two bottom questions here smell like ones the counselors invented in order to patch over rough spots in games. Would somebody really ask how to "use ice" or whatever when what they really want the answer to is "How do I get through these specific rooms where I'm stuck?" I think a fair fraction of the questions the magazine prints are fake like that.

>>8197191
I'm pretty sure most of the magazine was like that. Whatever content was submitted to them was likely edited to fit the magazine's style guidelines. Notice that they never to the Super NES as "the Super Nintendo", even in fan-letters.

>>8190165

Chun-Li actually looking somewhat Chinese for once. Weird.

>>8190226

We're down to only one game that mainly gives you scores. Hurry, Nintendo Power, change format already!

>>8190226
>>8197262
They must've had 30,000 letters claiming to have finished SMW, I wonder how they decided on just those

>>8190228

It's weird to see these hyper-violent, cynical movies with R ratings being pushed on kids. I feel like somebody would object to that today? I don't know. Do companies still make licensed games associated with gruesome movies meant for adults and sell them to kids? Maybe they do.

>>8197212
>Notice that they never to the Super NES as "the Super Nintendo", even in fan-letters.

Oh wow I never even thought to watch for official terminology in the fan letters.

>>8197178
>coping

No I'm too old to do that. I call it just "being wrong about something" when somebody is wrong about something. Anyway I'd claim that the good games on early disc-based platforms are rarely good because of the discs, but I won't keep up a fight about it in this thread because who cares.

>>8189886
>>8193712
Howard's no longer there to contain him.

>>8190236

"I didn't play this long enough to judge it, but here's my review. What did you think?"
"I didn't play it long either. You'd have to play longer to give ratings. Here are my ratings."

>>8190246

Wizards & Warriors III paying the price in the ratings for its inaccessibility. That game really should have been featured instead of that stupid T&C game. Some handholding from Nintendo Power would have made it a lot more playable for a lot of kids, I imagine.

>>8190267

An explanation of what a tournament fighting game is! That's right, this would have been the first really impressive one for a lot of players. So the idea is that you adopt a character - thanks, Nintendo Power, now I understand!

>>8190271

And now they're introducing us to Namco!

>>8197289
>being pushed on kids
Nigger, the kids were the ones pushing to watch the movies. The companies didn't have to put any effort into it. You know what were popular movies in the early 90's among kids? Aliens, Rambo 2, Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street films. None of which were considered acceptable for children. Hell, The Goonies was considered unacceptable material for children due to the kids in the movie swearing, but that didn't stop it from being popular among kids back then.
Besides, it's a little late to complain about something like Robocop when they already have two games based on a manga series about a cold-blooded assassin where you literally shoot people in the head. They even showed him smoking in NP when they covered the Mafat Conspiracy.

>>8197804

Yeah I liked RoboCop and Aliens as a kid. It's still weird that Nintendo Power would actually be giving copies of RoboCop 2 to children as prizes. (The thing I personally dislike about that, though, is that they should be giving out RoboCop instead because it's a better movie.)

>>8197804
>>8197824
Don't forget all the toy action figures for these movies too.

>>8198234
>>8197824
Don't forget G.I. Joe. That was ALL about marketing violence and the action figures to go with it. How about those old westerns that were popular among kids in the 50's and 60's?

>>8193712
>>8197641
There was also a change in artist when Howard left. Shuji Imai was no longer drawing the strip by that point.

>>8197775
That actually is justified, Namco's American footprint wasn't as big then, especially with Nintendo. Midway published Pacman in the arcades back in 1980, and basically controlled the US side of things until Namco severed that connection years later, and Namco wasn't playing ball with the NES's numerous restrictions. What did exist were things handled by their home console division (Namcot), or released under a different publisher (Galaga, for instance, was published by Bandai).

>>8198496
>Midway published Pacman in the arcades back in 1980, and basically controlled the US side of things until Namco severed that connection years later, and Namco wasn't playing ball with the NES's numerous restrictions.
Midway was really only involved with Pac-Man. It was Atari Games who handled most of Namco's U.S. distribution.

>>8189582
I have a NP collection, i thought'd be worth something one day...it isnt.

comfy thread tho

>>8189582
Kino cover.