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8088819 No.8088819 [Reply] [Original]

people want to believe video games are artworks that will be able to be enjoyed for years to come and can constantly be critiqued by a fresh set of eyes
Nobody wants to admit the more grim reality: That nobody who isn't part of your immediate generations is going to give a single fuck about any of the video games you think are amazing

Its sad but thats just how it is. Any attempt at some kind of video game art historical curation or museum thing is just millenials desperately floundering and trying to make the thing they really loved matter more than it does. The truth is that the generation after Zoomers(Alpha) wont give much of a fuck about any of the old games and the generation after that even less.

It'll all become even more ephemeral and esoteric when all the original hardware has finally bitten the dust and the only way to experience these things is emulation.

>> No.8088836

I'm 33 and I constantly watch movies made before 1988, up to some made in the 50's

My point is, you took a post, copy pasted it and made a thread about it. Nobody cared about the post when it was initially posted and for a reason.

>> No.8088849

>>8088819
Very, very few games have artistic or historic merit comparable to books or cinema(which are subject to the same entropy, if to a somewhat lesser extent).

Nevertheless, the necessary knowledge to recreate the OG experience of any given game will be curated, so that enthusiasts can literally build the hardware and software if they so desire.

>> No.8088853

>>8088836
You completely missed the point

>> No.8088858

>>8088836
Nothing gets by you.

>> No.8088862

>>8088819

That's nice dear

>> No.8088869
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>>8088819
Utter nonsense. Its time for you to part with the notion that there is nothing older than yesterdays games. Its over. Games have successfully transcended generations. And they will continue to do so just as classic music, and black & white movies, or vintage comic books. OP as always, wrrrrrrong.

>> No.8088979

>tell every young person who takes an interest in old things to fuck off by posting shit like ">le born in the wrong generation"
>act upset that no young people like old things
hmm

>> No.8088984

>>8088979
Oh, same goes for chasing away "zoomers" who take an interest in retro games. Those "zoomers" are gonna be the only ones keeping shit archived eventually.

>> No.8088996

How many remakes announced this year?

>> No.8089004

>>8088996
That alone destroys OP s argumentation.

>> No.8089012

>>8088819
What's the point? Explain it.

>> No.8089202

>>8088819
Why the hell should I care? I got plenty of time to enjoy old games I've been meaning to play but I certainly have no time sitting around thinking about what younger people think about them.

>> No.8089236

>>8088819
With the passage of time, memories tend to get summarized. When someone in the year 2050 will write a book about the history of video games, that person will be forced to ignore a bunch of games that we nowadays consider important. It's like that with every medium.

>> No.8089246

I wonder how many emails Nintendo gets about the N64 mini.

>> No.8089290

>>8088836
>watch movie from the current year
>there are people on screen interacting with the world independent of you
>watch movie from the 1970s
>there are people on screen interacting with the world independent of you
>play game from now
>take control of or be immersed into a world that can be as realistic or fantastic as it wants to be
>play game from the 70s
>move a line up and down til you get bored

>> No.8089293

>>8088819
Mario isn't going to be forgotten any time soon. We already have intergenerational franchises

Barring a global catastrophe, people will be playing World 1-1 for centuries to come.

>> No.8089296

>>8089290
A 70's game is like a 1900's movie.

>> No.8089297

>>8089290
Time has little to do with gaming outside of hardware limitations.
I have the same respect for a game like VVVVVV as I do any other retro platformer. Gameplay is gameplay.
Nintendo will release a new 2D Metroid game soon. You're cherry picking.

>> No.8089304

>>8088849
You act as if there aren't mountains of shitty books and movies that get gracefully kicked to the curbside of history. 98% of everything is shit. That's a universal truth.

>> No.8089371

>>8089304
>mountains of shitty books and movies
The difference is /vr/ adores shitty games. Because muh childhood. I think thats the stuff that will actually fall by the wayside soon. Shitty, overrated games.

>> No.8089391

Nobody gives a shitty about atari, but from the NES on, gameplay hasn't really improved much until the current day.
I would say it probably peaked in the SNES era because after that gameplay got streamlined so you could ensure that everyone could see the little movies you made in-between the actual game.
Younger generations will discover these games and love them.
They already are.

>> No.8089405

>>8088819
Yeah and a ton of people refuse to watch black and white movies. Every medium has niche shit that only a relatively small group of people enjoy, has never, and will never, stop me from enoying my particular niches both in videogames and other mediums.

>> No.8089412

There are plebs on this very website who are automatically filtered by anything outside AAA Japanese console games.

>> No.8089491
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>>8088819
I really don't give a fuck about generation alpha or any of the following generations. I'm not going to be raising a family in these dark times and if they're smart they'll have much bigger concerns than the vapid entertainment their Gen X/Millennial/Zoomer elders consumed.

If they don't care about the vidya or movies I liked that's not my problem. I think many forms of entertainment are going to decline into irrelevency in the coming years, cinema will be the first casualty. Hell, it's practically already happened to books/literature by now.

>> No.8089494

>>8088819
Modern videogames are probably going to dissapear sooner due to the amount of online only shit.

>> No.8089497

My wife's friend has kids who are aged 5 and 9 and I busted out my Sega Genesis and started playing with them. They were having a blast despite the fact that they usually would play Fortnite. Fun games are fun and I don't think that will really change. I for one will make sure my kids have an appreciation for older games as I did. I grew up in the PS1/N64 era but I still hold a ton of respect for NES, SNES, SMS and Genesis games.

>> No.8089507

>>8089497
Don't offer them any ZX Spectrum games though, you don't want to be investigated for child abuse.

>> No.8089542

>>8088819
I think you are wrong because while there are many great indie games today that have access to vast graphical effects, I don't think there has been an original modern 2d game that is as good as say sonic 2 or super mario world. If what you said was true and that new games do everything better so that people would no longer care for old games but the conditions needed to create those old games no longer exist. Yes there is a new wonder boy but it still doesn't beat the old ones. I would say there isn't even a new indie 2d that beats Earthworm Jim, I think its just not going to happen that will be a new game as good as mario 3 or sonic.

>>8088836
Its like if people decided classic music was outdated so the they made classical music 2, it just wouldn't be the same.

Remember all those thousands of 2d games on xbox arcade such as alien hominide, rayman legends and braid. Well its been 10 years and no one cares about those games but they still download mario, nba jam, sonic, tetris, pokemon etc roms.

Some modern 2d that did it best are pac man championship and cup head which took the best bits of stuff like metal slug, they have a good chance of being remembered for a long time.

And I actually have seen zoomers play games from the 90s on their mobiles.

>> No.8089552

>>8089497
Kids usually have a blast with old games, especially platformers. I think it reminds them of games they usually play on smartphones and tablets. I don't think there will ever be a child that will not enjoy playing Mario, it's only casual millenials who act like they're too good for retro games.

>> No.8089569

>>8089542
>I don't think there has been an original modern 2d game that is as good as say sonic 2 or super mario world
Obviously not retro but I firmly believe Shovel Knight is one of the very best 2D action platformers of all time.

>> No.8089571

>>8089552
My 5 year old nephew is fascinated with both new and retro video games, he especially enjoys 5th gen and 6th gen stuff including platformers. He just beat his first game all by himself which was Sackboy Adventure on PS4 I think, and he's getting close to beating the Switch version of Mario 64 my brother in law got him. Similar to how my first game I ever beat was Bugs Bunny Lost in Time on PSX.

>> No.8089685

>>8089391
The NES and SNES are completely or substantially missing entire genres.

>> No.8089687

>>8089685
>The NES and SNES are completely or substantially missing entire genres.
Like what?

>> No.8089710

>>8089687
Strategy games had to deal with immense limitations starting with limited interface controls.
RPGs on the NES were also limited by the interface.
Racing and sports games had a lot of great stuff but were very limited compared to what was possible with 3D consoles, same with fighting games.
Horror was almost nonexistent.
FPSs were mostly limited to light gun games, let alone third person shooters.
2D and 3D action games and platformers are also fundamentally different.
Very little in the way of stealth games.

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>>8089710
>Horror was almost nonexistent

>> No.8089727

>>8089290
And yet that 70s game is still more engaging than most modern games

>> No.8089738

>>8088819
>That nobody who isn't part of your immediate generations is going to give a single fuck about any of the video games you think are amazing
Right out of the gate you fucked up. There a boatload of games released before I was born that I enjoy.

>> No.8089742

Games from the 70s weren't meant to be autistically played all day long. They are fine for what they are. If I saw a cabinet, I'd play one for a bit.

>> No.8089809

>>8089290
>Play catch in the current year
>throw ball at another person and catching it back.
>Play catch in the 1970's
>throw ball at another person and catching it back.

>>8089742
There's also a social aspect to those games. The way you engage with a game like pong or galaxian involve a basic competitive angle where you try and rack up more points than anyone else. Sure there are more complex competitive games out there, but simple games of skill will always have their place. People will still play tictactoe or hopscotch for centuries. Kids will still look at lines on the floor and try to avoid them for as long as there's floors. Its just basic human nature.

>> No.8089815

>>8088819
Fuck you lying cheapskate EmulatorFaggots to hell.

>> No.8089828

>>8089742
Yep. They were very similar to board games. In fact, thats exactly what the first generation of consoles like Magnovox Odyssey were.

>> No.8089836

>>8088819
>That nobody who isn't part of your immediate generations is going to give a single fuck about any of the video games you think are amazing
I'm 25 and I have a Famicom, Super Famicom, Mega Drive, Nintendo 64, PC Engine, Game Gear, and all Game Boy models. My favorite games are Super Metroid, Gimmick, Hebereke, Ristar, Sonic 3, X-Men Mutant Apocalypse, Panel de Pon, Pokemon Snap, Devil Crash, Mega Man, Donkey Kong 3, Arkanoid, Pulseman, and Pocky and Rocky. All of those released before I was born.

Your argument is dumb and so are you. The age of the games doesn't matter, if they're fun then future generations will still find them fun. It's the same as when teenagers comment on YouTube uploads of songs from 50 years ago and complain about how they were "born in the wrong generation." These games aren't going anywhere.

>> No.8089851

>>8089710
Why did you list all of the shitty genres that nobody likes?

>> No.8090080

>>8089542
youre a retard cuphead shits on earthworm jim

>> No.8090083

>>8089542
>there haven’t been composers who make “classical” music up the current day

>> No.8090086

>>8088819
Square Enix begs to differ

>> No.8090097

>>8089815
lol emulation is the real preservation, fuck your woman repelling plastic and cardboard

>> No.8090256

>>8089836
>The age of the games doesn't matter, if they're fun then future generations will still find them fun. It's the same as when teenagers comment on YouTube uploads of songs from 50 years ago and complain about how they were "born in the wrong generation." These games aren't going anywhere.
Based and won.

>> No.8090382

old video games will remain relevant, not because they're cultural touchstones that future generations want to explore, but because every fucking game now is a sequel.
in the year 3000, when some kid beams Super Mario Universe directly into his cerebral cortex, he'll wonder what the first Mario was like and he'll buy it off the eshop for ten million dollars

>> No.8090802

>>8090382
Jesus came back merely to eradicate the bing bing wahoo.

>> No.8092175

>>8088819
Only a nigger like yourself would have the beauty of preservation lost on it. Beast, go back to your petty thievery.

>> No.8092214

>>8088819

Wrong. I see plenty of young people and zoomers who have a passion for retro games. The hobby isn't going anywhere. It's only growing.

>> No.8092873

>>8092175
Pin

>> No.8092943

OP is pissed all of his generations ideas still suck because he never had any rights or freedoms like the 90s people did

>> No.8093050

>>8092943
This, to be desu

>> No.8093091

>>8089371
there is never a difference other than technological advancement. humans are 98% shit and that includes you.

>> No.8093124

>>8088819
>experience these things is emulation.
What's wrong with emulation?

>> No.8093141

>>8093124
Diluted experience for trannies.

>> No.8093207

i haven't even been born yet and i love retro games you stupid faggot
go back to jerking off 8 times a day and contemplating suicide hourly

>> No.8093210

>>8093141
you've never had sex and you talk about 'diluted experiences' lmao

>> No.8093218

>>8093207
get off my board zoomer

>> No.8093236

>>8093210
You've never had sex and you tell other people they've never had sex lmao

>> No.8093802

>>8093141
>Diluted experience
How is it "diluted"?

>> No.8094320

>>8093236
Virgin detected

>> No.8094354

>>8093802
You know how.

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>>8088819
>Videogames
>Art
What faggot actually believes this?

What you can say, though, is that some of the pictures matched to music is very inspiring, but it is not art. There is no portrayal of a piece to be interpreted by another. Videogames are there to view, not interpret.

>> No.8094369

>>8094354
>>8093802
miyamoto's intended experience for smb1 was for you to go to a landfill, dig out a ten inch CRT, carry it home, throw out your HDTV and stare at those glorious blurry pixels
anything less is a perversion of the artist's vision

>> No.8094390

>>8094320
I assume this is the only comment you can make since it must constantly be going off

>> No.8094396

>>8094367
I get what you're getting at, and I don't entirely disagree, but no, there are some where there is interpretation, not sure where you're getting that from.

>> No.8094404

>>8094369
Glad someone finally understands. A true patron of the arts you are, sir.

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>>8088819
I disagree.

>> No.8094623

>>8094615
Is that young Moot? Does he make the same face in every photograph?

>> No.8094984

>>8093802
You didn't know the original hardware is like a tabernacle? If you run the game program through an emulator it doesn't have the soul in it, simple as.

>> No.8094994

>>8094984
BASED

>> No.8096885

>>8094369
>>8094984
Soul

>> No.8096898

It's not sad. I don't give a fuck about what's going to happen after I'm dead. In fact I hope the world bursts into flames.