/vr/ - Retro Games

misters are for gay faggots

>>8047714

I wonder how this will work out. Very exciting as an idea, just curious what compatibility will be like. I know in an optimal world, a fpga should replicate the original machine 1:1... but wouldn't you need exact documentation of the original machine's every hardware component to accomplish that?

Im not sure that information exists for the saturn. Am i wrong? Or is there a workaround, like using a computer to examine the components?

>>8047714
Sort of like how my NG collection became worthless when mister got a NG core. Cope harder emufag.

>emufags just can't shut up about themselves emulating

>>8047714
Won't happen
>>8047810
fpbp

>>8047714
Call me when it supports composite out.

>>8047891
>plastic hoarders can't shut up about hoarding plastic
>crtfags can't shut up about posting zoomed in photos of the set they picked up from the salvation army
>contrarians can't shut up about how every good game is shit, and every shit game is 10/10
>eurofags can't shut up about meme systems that had zero (0) good games, but somehow created every genre
>xoomers can't shut up about how gaming died with 4th gen
>zoomers can't shut up about nintendo creepypasta memes
>shmuptists can't shut up about how much they hate jrpgs
Welcome to /vr/, enjoy your stay.

>>8047714
>Yes! We now have two amazing Mister Sisters working on transitioning

>>8047714
You know what's even better than playing Saturn games on either a MEESTAH or a Saturn with an ODE?

...................Not playing a Shiturn at all lol

I have a mister and still use all my consoles eith flash cards/ODEs. Just use the mister for for arcade stuff

>>8047970
>>shmuptists can't shut up about how much they hate jrpgs
it's only one guy (so half of the shmup thread yeah)

>>8047992
Source online for good mister arcade cores?

>>8047970
>Call me when it supports composite out.
You can buy a dongle for that from some spanish guy's store
>>8048104
If you download and use the update_all script you should just be getting all of them

>>8047714
>cores
gay

>>8047714
>cores
In my time we called them drivers

Wait, misterfags have been shilling an emulator that doesn't even support Playstation this whole time?

>>8047827
how? how can that replicate an entire hardware?

last time i checked, FPGAs are nothing more than glorified low tier CPUs. and yet people say these things are so powerful they can run potentially switch games. i mean what the hell?

>>8048329
>last time i checked, FPGAs are nothing more than glorified low tier CPUs
where the hell did you get that idea

>>8047827
No one is trying to replicate the original machine 1:1 or anywhere close to it. It's mostly just expensive emulation so faggots can feel less bad about being emufags. There could be some legit reasons to use it but 99% of misterfags just use it as an emulator that has little if any benefit over software emulation.

Why doesn't mister target platforms you can't easily and accurately emulate on a modest CPU?

>>8047714
>MiSTer instead of at least a current gen Raspberry Pi or arcade Supergun.

>>8048312
Yeah, it was for good systems until the Saturn core and this showed up.

>>8047714
>After this step PSIO, MODE, XStation and other ODEs becomes useless
Depends how accurate the cores are to original hardware.

>>8048329
>FPGAs are nothing more than glorified low tier CPUs

>>8048365
Like... ?

>>8047714
lightgun-games

>>8047810
Very true

>>8048329
>last time i checked, FPGAs are nothing more than glorified low tier CPU
Anon...

>>8048501
They're still regularly fixing problems is much older cores. New stuff is going to be buggy as fuck. But don't worry. That won't stop misterfags from claiming they're 100% accurate.

>>8050975
This is something I don't understand, they use software emulator as a base but claim to be more accurate, how exactly?

>>8051418
timing and synchronization

>>8050975
Nobody will ever be perfect without bugs, but as being open-source project it's more chance these bugs will be fixed, MiSTer is still a young project

>>8051418
He's writing software emulator only for himself to learn more about how PlayStation 1 works, PS1 core for MiSTer will be written from scratch and in another programming languageBIXA

>>8051441
this is a meme at this point
>>8048365
^this

>>8048357
>There could be some legit reasons to use it but 99% of misterfags just use it as an emulator that has little if any benefit over software emulation.
This is probably right, but personally I see it as way better than software emulation.

First, it's hooked up to my CRT. This is a monumental pain in the ass with modern computers, and the whole thing runs essentially silently with basic little fan. Next, it has full zero latency* controller support through SNAC. And that also covers light guns, all my old guns work exactly the same way they do on my original hardware.

In terms of accuracy, it's close enough that I can't tell a difference in side-by-side comparisons. It puts out a perfect RGB signal, unlike a lot of older systems, and it boots up in seconds with game loading being nigh-instantaneous, which is far faster than any flashcart on the market.

If you're hooking it up to a modern LCD screen, I really don't see much point over runahead. But if you want the closest thing to the real thing without spending hundreds of bucks on flashcarts and RGB mods? It's a serious contender.

>>8051418
Software emulators are far more mature and have millions of people testing them. The accuracy meme is almost entirely based on the idea that the FPGA is emulating the hardware cycle accurately. That's not necessarily the true but it's generally very close. The thing is that as soon as your USB controller into your mister and your mister into your LCD that becomes largely irrelevant. While started with good intentions, currently main purpose of mister is to allow emufags to spend money and thus feel less like losers than they did when they were doing it for free.

>>8051446
What software emulator do you use that's not open source? Mister is based on mist which is about 10 years old. The only thing young is you.

>>8051572
This is what the developers originally intended if they were still concentrating on that it'd be great. Instead they decided to cater to emufags and it went to shit. When they started sacrificing accuracy for being child-friendly it just because another emulator. This pissed of many people including one of the few people who actually knew wtf he was doing.
Not to nit pick, but hooking up a modern computer to a CRT isn't difficult if you know what you're doing. Ironically, I've done it many times but would never considering emulating and playing that way.

>>8051572
>it boots up in seconds with game loading being nigh-instantaneous, which is far faster than any flashcart on the market
?

>>8051717
Practically every flashcart has to copy the game into SDRAM. It's not so bad on earlier systems, but it's a hassle on later ones with bigger roms.

>>8051725
When was the last flash card you used

>>8051738
Newer flashcarts still need to copy like that, but it's so damn fast that you don't notice.

>>8051747
Yeah dude, that’s my point

>>8048336
>>8048597
>>8048619

can you prove it to me? everyone is claiming a FPGA system can run EVERYTHING, but thats logically impossible.

>>8052232
>everyone is claiming a FPGA system can run EVERYTHING
No one is claiming that you absolute retard

Yup. So is my wife.

>>8051572
>any flashcart on the market
>>8051725
>Practically every flashcart
>>8051747
>it's so damn fast that you don't notice
So wrong all along. Got it.

>>8052296
which flashcart takes more than 10 seconds to boot a game

Oh shit! We can finally emulate something PC losers have been doing for years! Based!

>>8052509
*decades

>>8048004
Nah, most of us enjoy dunking on jarpigs with the lads tbqh.

>>8047810
lol. never stop dabbing on the undead fren

Which is better, Mister or RGBPi?

No. The my coomlection.jpg guy has made sure I will never buy a mister within my lifetime.

Also I own a saturn and ps1 anyway.

>>8047714
Nah. I can emulate on my PC.

>>8047891
>hardwarefags can't shut up about treating computer programs like religious objects
It doesn't matter if the game looks exactly the same on an emulator, only the original processors can decode the SOUL

>>8052383
old gba-flashcarts

>>8052919
if you look at the previous replies you will see that we are not talking about those

>>8047810
>Not being a gay faggot
MiSTer is based

>>8052889
Enjoy your rotting plastic.

>>8051418
There was something I heard a while back about a team decapping the PS1's ICs, allowing for replicating the exact circuit much like what was done for the NES. I don't know if that ever happened though. But if it did then I don't see why a software emulator would even need to enter the equation except for maybe a point of comparison.

>>8047714

I fell for it but compared to other things I fell for and wasted money on, this isn't bad. It's really nice how quick and on demand, also i couldn't tell the difference, then again i probably could not either with emulation on pc but i do feel like somethings there.

if it does happen I'm going to need 256gb or more in storage because segacd alone is like 40 gigs, which i do have :) terasic or whoever makes the board are probably really happy right now. n64 would be a dream. i wonder if it would be possible with added hardware.

>>8052383
You should be asking the faggot(s) who were complaining about load times.

>>8052943
Had a look. No posts saying """we""" weren't talking about those but found
>any flashcart on the market
>Practically every flashcart
If """we""" make sweeping general statements """we""" should expect to get called out on them and mocked when """we""" cope.

>>8047714
Nah i got my Raspberry pi, dont need any basedboi mister

>>8055627
>When was the last flash card you used
>Newer flashcarts still need to copy like that, but it's so damn fast that you don't notice.
illiterate fag

Any chance of the MiSTer ever getting N64 support?

I'm interested in replaying some of my childhood favourites for the first time in, fuck, like 20 years and while the price for a flashcart is reasonable (was looking at an x7 on stone age gamer) given what n64 titles cost on the aftermarket these days, it crossed my mind as I was shopping online for a phone for my mother that the Redmi 9 I eventually settled on cost exactly the same as the Everdrive, and I was kinda struck by the absurdity of the situation. Not that there's anything wrong with a high quality niche device attracting a premium relative to a cheap mass produced chinkphone but my brain is retarded and irrational.
But anyway, I have a MiSTer already and it'd be nice to get a N64 core.

>>8056076
Probably some time after PS1 support.

>>8055638
>zoomcope
You need to go back, zoom zoom.

>>8056076
>Any chance of the MiSTer ever getting N64 support?

No chance as the DE-10 Nano is not powerful enough.

ODE's let me play on real hardware

>>8057990
If you played on ODE you did not, by any stretch of the imagination, play on real hardware.

>>8052881
Xbox series X

>>8058189
if you ever burned a disc you did not play on real hardware

>>8047714
Yeah, I'll probably get one. I'm waiting until I've moved again though, since I'm living on the road right now. I'm looking forward to fucking around with it. FPGAs are cool.

I ask this question every few months though. Is there any newer FPGA hardware coming down the pipeline, and are folks looking to take advantage of it. Seems like it should be easy to just recompile it on any new stuff, but I don't know enough about writing for FPGAs.

>>8047810
Fpbp, /thread

>>8047810
Being gay is the new straight.

>>8058626
Yes.

>>8047970
>>eurofags can't shut up about meme systems that had zero (0) good games, but somehow created every genre
Euros played the same systems you did. It's only Bongs who have nostalgia for some weird shit.

>>8058189
Alright, let's Ship of Theseus this shit:

If I use softmods to use something like the sharpscale hack on a PSTV is it no longer real hardware?
If I grease my N64's control stick, is it no longer real hardware?
If I replace the thermal interface material on an overheating Gamecube is it no longer real hardware?
If I use a third party controller or AV cables is it no longer real hardware?
If I install a modchip or use an action replay etc. to run region free games is it no longer real hardware? What if I'm playing backups?
If the capacitors are leaking/failing and I recap the board is it no longer real hardware?
If I install an RGB mod or a better RGB chip/amp, is it no longer real hardware?
If I swap out something ancillary like the cooling fan is it no longer real hardware?
If I play SNES games on a 1chip or Jr console, with their revised/consolidated mobo is it not real hardware?

At what point does it cease to be real hardware?

>>8059262
If you use an RGB SCART cable on a Playstation it's not real hardware.

>>8059262
Yes.

Why would I buy a dedicated emulation machine when I already have something that does all that and more?
You'd genuinely have better luck shilling this thing on reddit.

>>8047714
Yawn. Call me when they have N64

>>8052894
Makes me wonder how many of the hardware fags are actually audiofools.

>>8059262
>Ship of Theseus this shit
In your case it's more like Triggers broom. Except that was a bit on a sitcom and you're a real life cringey pseud who's actually that retarded.

>>8059668
You've done him.

>>8059262
He's done you.

>>8047810

Right on, brother.