/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7974328
Well that's not plagarism for starters.

Same way Simpsons got away with using the Godzilla scream without permission, they didn't ask for permission before using it.

People back then still thought video games were just kids toys that weren't worth the effort to sue.

>>7974332
That is 100% kyle. Japs used to do this in the 90s because video games werent taken seriously as media. Look at the kadabra guy.

What plagiarism?

The world was bigger, information traveled slower. Today the right social media post can topple an entire country in an hour

Depends on whether or not it was actually done by a Japanese artist.

Because copyright used to be by nation, not the fucking WIPO/WTO/CIANIGGERS. If it isn't registered in Japan by a legally recognized entity it gets fucked right off into the sea.

>>7974328
Not really plagiarism, but clearly heavily referenced. I imagine game cover/promo artists were under a big time crunch and probably not given a huge payout/budget per piece, so they made due with what had. It wasn't as easy to get varied reference back then plus they probably didn't want to pay a model to pose or buy props for reference, so maybe stuff like movie promos and magazines were the best they had to use.

>>7974328
That's nothing. Revenge of Shinobi literally has Spiderman for a boss battle.

>>7974328
>>7974401
Plagiarism is replication/appropriation of ideas; it’s one of the sources of copyright infringement, but this case would tie more closely with image/likeness rights violation, which is another. In any case, most related legislation is territorial and, though it could be argued internationally, as others have pointed out at the time there would have been very little point in investing resources into it.

>>7974328
Maybe it was just more tolerated or something?
Like i'm pretty sure the two original contra guys are suppose to be
>stallone and arnold.

>>7974428
*copyright/trademark

>>7974458
lmao batman, godzilla and the terminator also.
a channel on youtube called
>Same name different game
has a pretty good video about all the different versions of revenge of shinobi

>>7974428
Based

It was the 80s and video games were stupid kid's shit. They're still stupid kid's shit, just multi-billion dollar kid's shit, so it's different these days. Plus as >>7974401 points out, you'd have had to do some legwork and it wasn't worth it. Totally different world before everybody had internet. If you're only in your early 20s or younger then you really won't understand, barring a specific upbringing.

If you look through classic games then you will find countless ripoffs. It's actually pretty hard to sue for likeness appropriation and win, however, so that's one way they get away with it in the US. The person in the video/whatever basically has to say "my name is (real person's name) and blah blah blah" (as well as mimic likeness and famous actions) for it to be a winnable case. Otherwise you wouldn't be really able to represent famous people in media much at all, one person would sue hard and it would all go away.

Funnier part for metal gear is that on top of the traced/copied box art, the character face sprites in-game are all lifted from real actors too. Snake is Kurt Russell, Colonel is Dick Crenna, etc. Kojima gave no fucks about putting his favorite actors right in the games. Lifted tons of famous names too (Ultravox for example).

>>7974328
How did American ones?

1980s game developer's "inspirational" media:

-Arnold Schwarzenegger films
-Star Wars
-Aliens
-Mad Max
-Blade Runner
-Escape from New York

>>7974369
>Look at the kadabra guy.
Guy comes to Japan to demonstrate his talents, and all the kids don't shut up about Pokemon because one was named after him. I'd be very annoyed, too.

>>7974332
>Well that's not plagarism for starters.
I guarantee you that the cover artist had a VHS or Laser Disc copy of The Terminator on pause or freeze frame at that exact same frame.

>>7974384
Pretty blatant ripoff of Castlevania, but it's hard to blame them. It's a great series of games.

>>7974328
I'm pretty sure this would fall under parody in america too.

>>7974328
How did OP get away with underageposting

Everyone did fucking plagiarism in the fucking 80's dude fucking RPG's like D&D and even Cyberpunk would copy their art from other places
It's just a shit people did when they had less and had a smaller budget to work with

>>7974475
cant have been that good cause you failed to mention rambo and the hulk.

>>7974328
Japan has always had a somewhat looser version of copyright law than the US. Basically, they didn't give a fuck.

>>7974924
>Pretty blatant ripoff of Castlevania
You're trolling, right?

So, when I had Michael Beihn sign my copy of Metal Gear, I asked him if he was aware of the plagiarism back when the game came out. He didn't really answer the question, but he decided to give me a rundown of how plagiarism works. He said, in his own words "anybody can copy my image from the neck down. That's okay. In cases of plagerism, only the face is protected, and I would have to prove that the face and face alone was a copy of mine."

Perhaps, however, the photographer would have a case for plagerism, but thats if the studio didn't own the rights to the photographer's work. They most likely do.

>>7974624
based

>>7975289
Pic of your signed copy of Metal Gear? That's pretty cool

>name the 5 greatest jap vidya plagiarisms of all time

The japanese weren't the only ones.

>>7974328
Because they were Japs in the 80s, back when noone took vidya seriously - you can now ask the same question to modern Chinks about stuff like FinalCombat

>>7976065
This still bugs me. Final Combat comes out, everyone shits on it and laughs at it for being a Team Fortress 2 clone. Genshin Impact comes and everyone loves this rip-off of Breath of The Wild. It seems Final Combat was ahead of its time. It took western audiences awhile to accept blatant Chinese rip-offs.

>>7974384
Believe it or not, a lot of game developers back then were huge D&D nerds.

>>7975281
You're autistic, right?

>>7976126
Back when the game industry had proud nerds, and not self-hating male feminist nerds and bitter, many hating harpies fresh out of art college and armed with a 2.8 GPA and a portfolio of gay cartoon fanart.

>>7976126
>>7976180
wtf are you on about? Every woke nerd I know plays tabletop RPGs, especially the ones who draw gay cartoons.

StarCraft and Halo paste entire characters from Aliens, and got away with ripping off Iain M. Banks because gamers don't read.

>>7974328
>>>/ic/

>>7974328
What's the difference between plagiarism and an artistic homage?

>>7974508
>They're still stupid kid's shit
When did gamers turn into these self-loathing, limp-dicked ironic cucks who have to constantly virtue signal how much they look down on games and don't take them seriously?

>>7975301

He enthusiastic said "Metal Geeear" when I handed it to him.

>>7974624
Kojima must have really liked Mel since he copied Lethal Weapon for Policenauts too.

>>7976445
In the pre-internet world, no one could actually do shit against that kind of plagiarism. Best you could ever do was say to your friends how the game totally copied that movie you saw on TV and everyone would call you crazy and go on about their days.
Those were some shit times if you ask me.

>>7976376
That’s pretty cool, anon

>>7976278
They think that video games are responsible for their failures. It is EXTREMELY common on 4chan (/v/ in particular) for Anons to think that if they just picked up a football instead of a Nintendo controller, that they wouldn't be NEETs, would have a six pack, a 6 figure job, and a nympho of a wife. All if they never bing bing wahooed.

>>7976240
Plagiarism provides the same experience and is a direct or very similar copy of the source.

Homage follows the spirit of the source but is distinct and offers a different experience.

>>7976445
He also used very obvious traces of the Blade Runner concept art by Syd Mead for Snatcher.

>>7975289
>So, when I had Michael Beihn sign my copy of Metal Gear, I asked him if he was aware of the plagiarism back when the game came out. He didn't really answer the question, but he decided to give me a rundown of how plagiarism works. He said, in his own words "anybody can copy my image from the neck down. That's okay. In cases of plagerism, only the face is protected, and I would have to prove that the face and face alone was a copy of mine."

This is what Todd McFarlin's toy company has been doing for decades:

>>7974328
you can't plagiarize a pose and a haircut

>>7976526
but what experience you have is relative

>>7974328
How did Western companies get away with literal plagiarism?

>>7976597
That’s an homage, not plagiarism.

>>7974369
>>7974910
>t. clueless Amerifat already panicking about imaginary lawsuit from Disney
You sad fucks are below pathetic

>>7974328
That’s an homage, not plagiarism.

>>7976595
>reading comprehension is hard

>>7976120
It's cute girls and a decent presentation. That's it. Cute girls especially is all you really need to get otaku wallets on your side.

>>7974369
>>7974641
Wasn't that guy a scam artist in the 70's.

>>7977365
Maybe, but he got more success threatening litigation on Game Freak over Kadabra (which lasted over two decades and only recently got dropped) than he did being a psychic.

>>7976604
>i-it's an "homage" when the west does it!

>>7976120
Genshin has jack fuck all to do with Breath of the Wild. Not even the art direction is similar